1)We killed a great fitted and piloted Worm without any losses. 2)Our ships together don't equal the cost of that Worm. 3)shut up, you weren't there. I pulled initial point on him and solo'd his drones. The rest pretty much whored, with the blaster Comet nearly dying to the rocket fire.

Bro... You can jamm drones..

they also require bandwidth as fitting, which is considered in the balance of the rest of the ship.

1)We killed a great fitted and piloted Worm without any losses. 2)Our ships together don't equal the cost of that Worm. 3)shut up, you weren't there. I pulled initial point on him and solo'd his drones. The rest pretty much whored, with the blaster Comet nearly dying to the rocket fire. On top of that, it is not my only Worm kill, just the most recent. List another frig that does close combat rails better than a Comet to fight this way. gtfo

::edit:: I don't mean to downplay the help of my brothers. Das did not have anything near small enough to fit in the novice, so he fit an Incursus up as fast as he could and managed to come in while I was working on the last 2 hob's. I was 7% structure on a buffer armor fit, and Grahmm would have lost his Comet were it not for the Incursus deeps, even though he lost it later to another Worm pilot 20min later who abandoned augmented hob's as we landed (cynabal, rax). I was gonna contract them over, but I later lost them in the cargo on a scattered messy warp-in. You should not down-play how effective Worm's are now. That is a legit kill won by skill, not a bum rush kill - Worm's are too tanky for that. It was a 5 minute engagement easy.

1)We killed a great fitted and piloted Worm without any losses. 2)Our ships together don't equal the cost of that Worm. 3)shut up, you weren't there. I pulled initial point on him and solo'd his drones. The rest pretty much whored, with the blaster Comet nearly dying to the rocket fire. On top of that, it is not my only Worm kill, just the most recent. List another frig that does close combat rails better than a Comet to fight this way. gtfo

::edit:: I don't mean to downplay the help of my brothers. Das did not have anything near small enough to fit in the novice, so he fit an Incursus up as fast as he could and managed to come in while I was working on the last 2 hob's. I was 7% structure on a buffer armor fit, and Grahmm would have lost his Comet were it not for the Incursus deeps, even though he lost it later to another Worm pilot 20min later who abandoned augmented hob's as we landed (cynabal, rax). I was gonna contract them over, but I later lost them in the cargo on a scattered messy warp-in. You should not down-play how effective Worm's are now. That is a legit kill won by skill, not a bum rush kill - Worm's are too tanky for that. It was a 5 minute engagement easy.

You were in the most powerful sub pirate faction frig that coincidentally fields almost a full flight of drones.

I should charge for this class..

Why?
Galmil already provide the market with the best non-faction T1 frig anyway.

Galmil already provide the market with the best non-faction T1 frig anyway.

My god you're getting tiresome.

Just explain to me how comes all the times i saw you in black rise in a tristan you ran from me flying solo in clearly inferior boats such as breachers, executioners, tormentors, atrons, slashers.

Every. Single. Time.

Just explain to me how comes all the times i saw you in black rise in a tristan

They are mostly good depending on situations, but drones are almost always great AND offer immense versatility with immunity to all ewar and zero fitting or cap costs.

Drones were altered to also shoot while approaching. SO earlier, drones around you would trail to far behind and then miss you constantly even though they had low transversal against you. THese days, drones got 4+km optimal and falloff, meaning that if you're in a tight 500m orbit, you're always in rage for drones, and they easily can track you.

It's not just the meds, heavies - esp. praetors/zerkers - hit AB frigs quite easily for massive damage.

1)We killed a great fitted Worm without any losses

is it?

tristan. kite no highs fit. brawl armor fit. scram kite armor fit. neut brawl fit. any single one of these is sub par compared to other frigs in their best kite / brawl /scram kite fits. The only oddball being the neut fit, which is unique to the tristan but gimmicky at best and so easily countered.

pick a kestrel. You can snipe fit, kite fit it, brawl fit it, you can go shield buffer, you can go 200mm plate, you cna go 400 mm plate, you can active tank it, you can slap 2 webs, you can slap a web +td

pick a firetail. dual prop. SAAR AC with 2 webs. SAAR ac with web and td. Shield AC. Arty 2 webs.

pick a breacher. kite fit? check. brawl fit? geee, so many possibilities. 1 masb, 2 masb, masb + saar.

slasher? dual prop. 2 webs. web td. nos or neut or launcher?

atron. rail kite. rail scram kite. shield fit. armor fit. repper fit. null fit. mwd fit. ab fit.

hookbill. 400mm rockets. 200 mm + repper rockets, 2 webs td. kite missile fit. TDs or damps? sniper fit. shield fits out of its ass.

torm? active or buffer? beams or pulses? EANM or 1 more HS? Please do get in a AB beam torm and picture the look of dismay on the kite tristan guy that thought he had you when you load aurora and proceed to murder his shield buffer up to out of heated point range while his drones tickle you

You basically have to kill the Tristan's drones in a 1v1.

Where are the people complaining about my Incursus pushing 300 dps while a same priced Tristan can get... 200 while being severely undertanked?

Anywhere beyond 3km.

Drones die and they do not have even close DPS to the 'real weapon' equivalents, unless we are talking about hard-bonused ships like a Gila. Also, they are a lot easier to tank than any other weapon system, just because their DPS mark is a lot lower than other weapons. You have a choice in every fight vs. a drone boat - in most of the cases, I know I'll out DPS it and go straight for it; in other cases, I'll have to kill the drones. All they do is add variety to a wonderful game, and there's no issue about it. Where are the people complaining about my Incursus pushing 300 dps while a same priced Tristan can get... 200 while being severely undertanked?

This thread is too gold to not join in!



> rocket, ab, brawling worm. I lol'd.


And for the main topic of this thread:

Yes drones are hilariously op. So the solution? Wait for the nerf and until then, fly drone boats. Kinda obvious...

Also I like how people complain about the application of Hammerheads on a Vexor.
I guess you guys have not experienced DNC Gilas yet...