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Mad Scientist101 Science Capital and Mechanical	Posted - 2006.10.01 13:54:00 - [331] Originally by: Ab Initio Originally by: Mad Scientist101 So BOB don't want to bring their Dreads because of Lag, so they offer this deal and send the puppets on the forums to make it look like they are uber. Little tip to BOB get some better puppets. We're three days into one of the largest wars to take place in EVE, and both sides are exchanging ammo happily. I would advise waiting at least a couple of weeks before you start smacking us for ship choice :) If you aren't prepared to take capitals into GQ, then don't make the offer for them to leave, from what you have said you can't back it up.
Tholarim Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 13:54:00 - [332] Originally by: darth solo if the rest of EVE had nads bigger than peanuts this would be a good time to attack BOBs home systems while most are playing with ASCN.. d solo. If any of u really had some balls u would attack it while we are there......
xlop Gallente	Posted - 2006.10.01 13:55:00 - [333] would be interesting if ascn took the fight to bob, the attackers are always the better off, they have planed the attack and do it while the defenders then need to orginise a half assed response or wait for their POS to get owned i can see ascn actually bringing a 100dread fleet to bob space with support of 300+ ships. one cycle of siege mode will take down one POS into reinforcfed, then jump them out and jump back 100 sniper BS pilots using the titan! ascn could also play the isk game, get their pilots into t1 only ships kitted with t1 only, start massive 200vs200 fleet battles and mid way send in a doomsday blast, killing a lot of BOB and ASCN at the same time, but a bob BS costing 100mil per loss and ascn BS only costing 10mil per loss!!! either way, this could be the end of bob if D2 and the like decide to take ASCN side [but that is unlikely since ascn helped bob in the past to fight imp/g/ect] but what is most likely to happen is half assed fights with lag wining everything -- Imperial College London FTW --
Rennard	Posted - 2006.10.01 14:03:00 - [334] BoB are better pvpers than ASCN as far as know. I killed plenty from both sides as a pirate. As equipment selection and tactics BoB is better as well. However... BoB can`t match ASCN`s industrial power. When it will come to Pos war and Motherships, Dreadnaughts roaming the place. ASCN will pwn BoB. However... The servers are not ready for this kind of challenges, so these wars will be no more than skirmishes and small fleet wars. It`s an opportunity that CCP shouldn`t miss to test stress tests etc. stuff. and an opportunity for us pirates who can go kill miners/npcers at BoB and ASCN space, when they try to blob each other.
Ab Initio Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 14:06:00 - [335] Originally by: Mad Scientist101 If you aren't prepared to take capitals into GQ, then don't make the offer for them to leave, from what you have said you can't back it up. No one from BoB is going to get into a strategic discussion with you regarding this war, no matter how much you bait them. I would advise talking to the tactician for whatever alliance you happen to be friendly with before further posting on the subject though. Im sure they can answer some of your questions.
Esaam DeVries Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.10.01 14:07:00 - [336] Leave us alone... We are busy eating babies. -- TRUST Shop : from T2 to Captital ship(yard)s. Shop smart, shop T-shop.
Ab Initio Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 14:09:00 - [337] Originally by: Esaam DeVries Leave us alone... We are busy eating babies. Sorry, no intention of dragging more people into this thread. I'd be happy if we could remove some. :P
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.01 14:10:00 - [338] Originally by: Ab Initio RKK: 244:44 (5.5:1) EVOL: 145:51 (2.8:1) BNC: 238:41 (5.8:1) DICE: 156:67 (2.3:1) TAOSP: (left out as they've only just setup). These stats are MEANINGLESS. Actually they are not, but for them to have relevance you will have to remove the industial corps in D2 and compare against the PvP ones. Which is what I have done. They beat you hands down.
Mad Scientist101 Science Capital and Mechanical	Posted - 2006.10.01 14:10:00 - [339] Originally by: Ab Initio Originally by: Mad Scientist101 If you aren't prepared to take capitals into GQ, then don't make the offer for them to leave, from what you have said you can't back it up. No one from BoB is going to get into a strategic discussion with you regarding this war, no matter how much you bait them. I would advise talking to the tactician for whatever alliance you happen to be friendly with before further posting on the subject though. Im sure they can answer some of your questions. Aren't that what these forums are for, discussion? Sir Molle has made an offer for corps to leave GQ, what happens to them if they do not take the offer? nothing it seems, no capitals will come to make big booms, you will just continue to camp gates for 3 weeks!!?? good luck with that.
Hast Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 14:12:00 - [340] Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 01/10/2006 13:48:42 Originally by: Hast Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Hast Hi I'm butterdog, hailing from the crappiest combat pilots ever. Now I'm ganking miners in low sec. LOOK AT ME, I'M BASHING BOB!!! I REALLY HAVE NOTHING TO SAY BUT I DO IT ANYWAYS!!!! p.s. your fanboi package is in the mail I love it when people can't address in arguement in a sensible manner, and resort to retarded immature smack like this. Well done for showing yourself up on a public forum. Nice work. Well, let me waste five minutes of my precious time replying to your pointless and frankly humorous forum posting. You really have nothing to say aslong as you have nothing to show. And really, you do have absolutely diddley squat to show. You are in a two bit ganker corp killing miners in low sec. I dont mind you doing that, but you should not really comment on things you have nothing with... Did I miss anything, is there anything else you would like to discuss? P.S. I upgraded your fanboy package to the platinum edition Oh, bitter little Hast. I'm pointing out a few facts he doesnt like, so he goes all spiteful. Grow up. Honestly, you guys are like a stuck record. Just admit you go after soft targets, and your stats are very average against other decent PvP corps. It's not difficult, but I doubt your egos could handle it. well really, there is no pleasing you guys. If we went after D2 we would get the oooh, why didnt you hit a big target like ASCN. So really, I'm not bitter and no I dont care about your stats. cos in the end, they are ten times better then what you will ever achieve. so stuff it please Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
Ab Initio Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 14:22:00 - [341] Edited by: Ab Initio on 01/10/2006 14:24:57 Originally by: Butter Dog Actually they are not, but for them to have relevance you will have to remove the industial corps in D2 and compare against the PvP ones. Which is what I have done. They beat you hands down. I'm not going to continue here. Everyone else looking at these numbers understands why they just don't add up. Heres some last things to consider: * Corp vs Alliance stats, actually shows you any alliance kill that had a corp participation. * Corp vs Alliance stats, only show you the losses of one corp out of the alliance. Ie. If we have a 100 (Team A) vs 100 (Team B) fight, and there is one "The Dead Miners Society" present in team B that gets on 25 kills before the whole of Team B is wiped out. Your corp has a 25:1 ratio to Team A. Doesn't change the fact that the whole of Team B died, and only 25 of team A were killed. Stats are wonderful things, they can be made to show whatever you want. Originally by: Mad Scientist101 Aren't that what these forums are for, discussion? Sir Molle has made an offer for corps to leave GQ, what happens to them if they do not take the offer? nothing it seems, no capitals will come to make big booms, you will just continue to camp gates for 3 weeks!!?? good luck with that. Yes, they are for discussion. You can't honestly expect any alliance in the middle of an invasion to lay out there plans for you though. As it stands, we're currently flying what we need to be flying to get the job done.
HC MasiEEE V I R I I Center for Disease Creation	Posted - 2006.10.01 14:33:00 - [342] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: HC MasiEEE Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Darcuese Originally by: Butter Dog [ I love it when people can't address in arguement in a sensible manner, and resort to retarded immature smack like this. Well done for showing yourself up on a public forum. Nice work. So predictable. Love how you guys just clam up when faced with evidence of your own distincly average stats against decent PvP corps. I think its more funny you think you are someone in eve If you haven't done any significant thing in eve i dont think you can judge decisions of people who did. But hell who am i, just another noob like you Anyone is entited to express an opinion, provided it is reasoned and based on evidence, and they can argue their case. I don't presume to 'be' anyone. But I have an opinion based on experience and evidence, and I am vocal in that. Judging from the BoB responses I am getting, I have clearly touched a nerve. But anyone can see that their tired old tactic of picking soft targets, and then blostering their egos with frankly expected kill-loss ratios is getting boring. Nothing wrong having an opinion, but opinions can be kept to yourself. Cause you are giving an opinion that BoB are loosers cause they attack "an easy" target that YOU dont find suitable. In this cause your opinion doesn't mean anything cause they dont care. And the only nerve you are hitting is the annoying one, why cause you critisize bob in every thread they are in and that offcourse is far off giving just an opinion. You can keep on posting in bob threads about "bob are loosers cause they always attack the most weak" but i dont think they will every change it because of you. And as i read you are the bitter one in this case. Just go ingame, let bob go and enjoy the game ________________________ HC MasiEEE - V I R I I
Shuriken Ertai Black Lance Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.10.01 14:34:00 - [343] Please, all stu. These a Ascn vs BoB war. D2 isnt involved yetÖ.
Drakma Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.01 14:43:00 - [344] Originally by: KSUDruid If you 'made IRON go by' by losing 65+ Battleships a Day to them, then yes, you're on a great start to defeating us Yes, because KDR means everything in Eve.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.01 14:44:00 - [345] Originally by: HC MasiEEE Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: HC MasiEEE Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Darcuese Originally by: Butter Dog [ I love it when people can't address in arguement in a sensible manner, and resort to retarded immature smack like this. Well done for showing yourself up on a public forum. Nice work. So predictable. Love how you guys just clam up when faced with evidence of your own distincly average stats against decent PvP corps. I think its more funny you think you are someone in eve If you haven't done any significant thing in eve i dont think you can judge decisions of people who did. But hell who am i, just another noob like you Anyone is entited to express an opinion, provided it is reasoned and based on evidence, and they can argue their case. I don't presume to 'be' anyone. But I have an opinion based on experience and evidence, and I am vocal in that. Judging from the BoB responses I am getting, I have clearly touched a nerve. But anyone can see that their tired old tactic of picking soft targets, and then blostering their egos with frankly expected kill-loss ratios is getting boring. Nothing wrong having an opinion, but opinions can be kept to yourself. Cause you are giving an opinion that BoB are loosers cause they attack "an easy" target that YOU dont find suitable. In this cause your opinion doesn't mean anything cause they dont care. And the only nerve you are hitting is the annoying one, why cause you critisize bob in every thread they are in and that offcourse is far off giving just an opinion. You can keep on posting in bob threads about "bob are loosers cause they always attack the most weak" but i dont think they will every change it because of you. And as i read you are the bitter one in this case. Just go ingame, let bob go and enjoy the game I didnt say at any stage they were 'losers'. They are good PvPers. I simply pointed out that against other decent PvP corps their stats are average. They love posting after conflicts like Goon/Huzzah/ASCN about their kill stats, then they all gather round in a big ego-swelling circle-jerk to congratulate themselves. Fact is, they are good PvPers like any other good PvP corp. What I dislike is their warped superiority complex and ego-massaging forum whoring. With regards to my opinions, I'd rather not keep them to myself on a discussion forum thank you.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.01 14:46:00 - [346] Originally by: Hast well really, there is no pleasing you guys. If we went after D2 we would get the oooh, why didnt you hit a big target like ASCN. So really, I'm not bitter and no I dont care about your stats. cos in the end, they are ten times better then what you will ever achieve. so stuff it please Actually my stats are really good because I, like you guys, go after soft targets. Difference is I admit it.
Mad Scientist101 Science Capital and Mechanical	Posted - 2006.10.01 14:51:00 - [347] ASCN are NOT soft targets, in fleet battles then yes they are not on the same par as BOB, but if you want to take their space that is a task that only the biggest alliances can achive. If you remember G tried to do it at their height and failed. So no ASCN are not a soft target in the slightest.
Bizarre TAOSP	Posted - 2006.10.01 14:58:00 - [348] Originally by: Drakma Originally by: KSUDruid If you 'made IRON go by' by losing 65+ Battleships a Day to them, then yes, you're on a great start to defeating us Yes, because KDR means everything in Eve. Judging by the popularity of killboards and how almost every thread ends up in an endless debate about K/D ratios, it must mean everything! :) ------------------ WOTANKN > WOTAN-KN + BIZARRE= SIR MOLLE
Yodaron Ballsithor Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.01 15:04:00 - [349] Originally by: Havras Edited by: Havras on 30/09/2006 21:46:05 Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor At least you have joined the normal bandwagoner thought here. Shame. WTS Clue. Mutual Respect does not equate to Lemming. Again, WTS Clue. Really now? You want to talk bandwagoner? Who is it that has suddenly joined into help BOB try and take us out? Hmmm... that would be... FIX... how shocking.. and you wondered why FIX was set to 0.0 before the war started. FIX doesn't respect BOB.. they fear them. World of difference there. "Oh noes!!! we best help BOB or they won't let us live in their space!" For all of the Ixion Unleashed talk you guys threw out there I'm sad to see you just blindly following BOB with FIXes collective nose up SirMolle's arse. You want to prove FIX is a force.. don't follow BOB for a change. Edit: Wanting to buy a spell checker. I had to highlight two of your more uninformed arguments. Let me enlighten you some: 1. FIX have taken no active part in this conflict. Honestly, if we have pilots traveling to ASCN space and engaging they are doing so against EXPLICIT orders from FIX High Command. If you have proof of this, please supply the same and I will be happy to have the matter addressed. 2. Fear? You are a funny man. You really have no clue what FIX is or how we operate, do you? Can ASCN say it stood tall against 7 alliances attacking it, fighting to the last man? No. Did FIX call in BOB help? No. Did BOB take the opportunity to secure sovereignty in Querious? Yes. Do FIX and BOB have an agreement in place that involves FIX paying nothing to BOB? Yes. Do FIX operate pursuant to it's own governing structure, unfettered by BOB? Yes. Proof? Let's see. BOB had you 0.0 or negative and we had you at +2.5 as you had us. If we are afraid of BOB or somehow fearful that they will come and OMGWTFBBQ us if we do not tow their tight line than we would have never done this. In the end, your lack of understanding of relationships I would have considered truely amazing; however, you are a "Cy-vokian" (insert Lemming)and you only understand the party line. Kind of like political parties in Old Earth. People vote for their party's line instead of weighing the information presented in an objective manner and making a decision based upon the objective data available. Keep voting your party line. Functioning in ignorance is much easier than functioning with intelligent, objective thought. In closing, I will state this: When you can come up with something credible instead of baldly false allegations that are not supported by objective fact, I will be more than happy to engage you in an intelligent conversation. Until then, you can continue to function in ignorance. Given this thread has devolved into the typical drama laden smack fest and the purpose of the thread was for Sir Molle to announce an option to a very specific group of folks in a very specific system, I will leave this thread to that purpose. Tick Tock.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.01 15:08:00 - [350] Originally by: Yodaron Ballsithor Given this thread has devolved into the typical drama laden smack fest and the purpose of the thread was for Sir Molle to announce an option to a very specific group of folks in a very specific system, I will leave this thread to that purpose. Tick Tock. If he really wanted to do that he would have mailed the CEO's of the appropriate organisations. This has nothing to do with that. Its about Divide and Conquer, and ego. Simple as that.
DETOVI Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.01 15:11:00 - [351] Originally by: Butter Dog Its about Divide and Conquer, and ego. Simple as that. QFT.
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 15:15:00 - [352] Originally by: DETOVI Originally by: Butter Dog Its about Divide and Conquer, and ego. Simple as that. QFT. Dont forget...its about ppl being greedy too.."Oh, my precious hangar stuff" My God, the wisdom in these ppl is unbeliavable. Im so jelous ------------------------------------------- Imperial Academy is currently recruiting Paragol Soul residents
Deja Thoris Revelations Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.01 15:27:00 - [353] Originally by: Butter Dog Actually my stats are really good because I, like you guys, go after soft targets. Difference is I admit it. ASCN is probably the hardest target in the game to take full on. Would you stop talking crap, your credibility died 6 threads ago.
DHB WildCat BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.01 15:27:00 - [354] Well its come time to see that BoB is running out of options. Which is the purpose of this post. BoB wants to fight in AZN so they offer to let everyone else farther south a way "out". However they are completely underestimating thier oponent. Yes BoB have much better FC'S (someone needs to replace *****grip) and more skilled pvp'ers BUT, they are completely outnumbered. BoB needs help and the sooner they can get to AZN the sooner -A- will "accidently" attack 68ft dividing ASCN's force. And all the while claiming oh we didnt know that BoB was in AZN. I think this is the end time for BoB they have finally found themselves up against a force that is far superior but only because of the massive numbers and the endless resoures. Between AXE / ASCN / and HUZZAH's best pvp'ers ,not many of em, but very strong together. BoB will go down. (Might be time to swallow some pride and ask for help) That is only my opinion of why this post was made by Molle. The future will tell us if Im right or coming out of left field on this one......lol. WildCat
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.01 15:35:00 - [355] Originally by: Deja Thoris Originally by: Butter Dog Actually my stats are really good because I, like you guys, go after soft targets. Difference is I admit it. ASCN is probably the hardest target in the game to take full on. Would you stop talking crap, your credibility died 6 threads ago. Yes, if the intention is to conquer their space and take the stations as things currently stand. Almost impossible with current game dynamics. We both know this isnt about that, its about 'divide and conquer' and slaughtering less experienced PvP fleets. Then, it will be followed by the oh-so-predictable stats about how a decidicated PvP alliance gets a good kill/loss ratio on a mostly industrial alliance. Well, quelle f***ing suprise.
Taffun Minmatar E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.10.01 15:38:00 - [356] To ASCN: Your pride in this matter may very well be your downfall.
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 15:46:00 - [357] You've got to love a good war, it brings out all sorts on the forums. Lots and lots of people commenting in these threads who've no clue whatsoever about fighting a prolonged large scale war. There's no stopping it of course and so long as people obey the forum rules it's to be expected. So long as everyone's having fun it's all good. It's going to be tremendous fun watching this conflict play out to it's conclusion, we're either going to be on the receiving end of the mother of all gang bangs and go out in a blaze of glory or a lot of mouthy morons with no clue are going to have egg on their faces until the day they turn off the servers. Either which way I know we're going to have an insane amount of fun Don't forget the offer GQ2 peeps, you might regret not taking it in the long run Eve Blacklight Style
Pehova Mindtriq Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.01 15:52:00 - [358] I think people should give bob a break in this conflict. Atleast they are taking on a big alliance while most others are scared to do anything until Kali drops. Celes/Toxin vs BOB
ponieus Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.01 15:53:00 - [359] Originally by: Mad Scientist101 ASCN are NOT soft targets, in fleet battles then yes they are not on the same par as BOB, but if you want to take their space that is a task that only the biggest alliances can achive. If you remember G tried to do it at their height and failed. So no ASCN are not a soft target in the slightest. not to remind you but G did NOT fail BOB decided they wanted to take Irons oupost which shifted Irons stand on the ASCN war therfore shifting G's also.. back on track.. tick tock --------------------------------------------- Maybe we will win the war by getting every bob pilot banned from eve maybe.:/ --thebold
Turkantho Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.10.01 15:54:00 - [360] If I am mad you're sober ________ Asgar[D]¦

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