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Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 546	Posted - 2015.03.10 04:48:01 - [301] - Quote Kaely Tanniss wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Anne Dieu-le-veut wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Where do you get your material from? You could blow away most stand up comics. Code was a huge part of the new order, and responsible for a vast majority of the kills. Their activity has fallen to unprecedented lows, and has not been replaced in any notable measure by the activity of others. Face it, Miss Kaely, your side is losing, the new order is collapsing, and highsec PvE player just keep on winning. A quick look at eve-kill shows, as usual, you're full of it. Yeah, they dropped off from January, but they still did 653B in damage in February...more than they've done in 18 other months since Jan 2013, and their 8th highest total. Please tell me you didn't just add up the zkill totals....if you look at the actual fleets doing the ganking you will see that code members make up a tiny fraction of the fleet comp...learn to dewhore kills. Wow..I'm going to try to say it as slow as possible so you can soak it in slowly. The Code alliance itself only makes up a small percentage of the New Order. Now read it slow...one more time. Get it that time? Thanks Miss Holmes. Now let me say something very slowly to you. Code used to have a lot more pilots and generate a lot more kills on their own. Due to a staggering drop in numbers, they are reduced to being little more than spectators in the gank fleets of others.
Kaely Tanniss Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 277	Posted - 2015.03.10 04:57:14 - [302] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Kaely Tanniss wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Anne Dieu-le-veut wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Where do you get your material from? You could blow away most stand up comics. Code was a huge part of the new order, and responsible for a vast majority of the kills. Their activity has fallen to unprecedented lows, and has not been replaced in any notable measure by the activity of others. Face it, Miss Kaely, your side is losing, the new order is collapsing, and highsec PvE player just keep on winning. A quick look at eve-kill shows, as usual, you're full of it. Yeah, they dropped off from January, but they still did 653B in damage in February...more than they've done in 18 other months since Jan 2013, and their 8th highest total. Please tell me you didn't just add up the zkill totals....if you look at the actual fleets doing the ganking you will see that code members make up a tiny fraction of the fleet comp...learn to dewhore kills. Wow..I'm going to try to say it as slow as possible so you can soak it in slowly. The Code alliance itself only makes up a small percentage of the New Order. Now read it slow...one more time. Get it that time? Thanks Miss Holmes. Now let me say something very slowly to you. Code used to have a lot more pilots and generate a lot more kills on their own. Due to a staggering drop in numbers, they are reduced to being little more than spectators in the gank fleets of others. Hehehe...you do make me laugh Veers. I think your "facts" are flawed. You need to look a little deeper. But I think facts elude you...so it wouldn't matter. Believe what you like. It doesn't change anything. Just because you believe something, doesn't make it so. If I decide to believe in the easter bunny..does that make him real? Perhaps someone should make an "AG is dying thread" ...it's been quite quiet in there as of late. If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Lament von Gankenheim The Conference Elite CODE. 22	Posted - 2015.03.10 05:04:59 - [303] - Quote i heard AG was dying.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 546	Posted - 2015.03.10 05:06:24 - [304] - Quote Lament von Gankenheim wrote: i heard AG was dying. touche'. With code dead and the rest of the griefers out of business, it may be time for AG to fade away, much like the anti-flat earth society did.
Joan Miles Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2015.03.10 17:21:34 - [305] - Quote Azov Rassau wrote: Just another example of what EVE can be. Congrats to Globby for this Hyperstealing. No you didn't!! If this "Hyperstealing" becomes a new thing I'm holding you responsible!
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen Origin. Black Legion. 2016	Posted - 2015.03.10 17:44:50 - [306] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: ... Thanks Miss Holmes. Now let me say something very slowly to you. Code used to have a lot more pilots and generate a lot more kills on their own. Due to a staggering drop in numbers, they are reduced to being little more than spectators in the gank fleets of others. Would you like to know more?
Bj Queeen Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2015.03.13 09:34:03 - [307] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: between this, Feyd going to null, and Cannibal Kane mostly going inactive, highsec griefing may be over. Veers always wins! http://www.minerbumping.com/2015/02/highsec-miner-grab-bag-72.html?showComment=1423419940758#c5043912067282719038 (08.02.2015 16:25:07) redacted: Hello everyone, This is a mail regarding my departure from Eve. Its been a good 2 years with the New Order of High Sec/Code Alliance and I have come to make alot of good friends/enemies in this game. I would like to thank everyone for there support and in the help in us achieving some great things while being a part of the New Order. For me though it is time for me to concentrate on real life and my family hence why I am leaving Eve. I would like to say a big shout out to John E Normus and Capt Starfox for always being around when we were going through spaceship dramas and the countless hours/days we spent pvping miners. To The Conference Elite pilots thankyou for making TCE one of the greatest corps in all of eve and I am sure you will still carry the banner for months to come. I am incredibly proud of what we have all achieved in Eve, and for helping me shove carebear tears up CCP's xxxxx whenever they tried to nerf our playstyle. It has been an amazing journey through friendships, carebear tears, ts rage, milestones etc but for me real life comes first. I can be reached on redacted if anyone wants to catch up at anytime, Also please feel free to mail me if any of you come to New Zealand. To our Saviour James 315, keep rocking on, I will forever be grateful in your belief in me, and in your help that you have given me throughout the last year and a half, it has truly been a pleasure. To someone in goons can you please pass this message onto all of Mini-luv. Thankyou all o/ loyalanon PS - I will occassionally jump on however I wont be on everyday/week etc. Because of your post I now plan to go out and uphold the CODE. It has never crossed my mind to do so until I read this. All you high sec bears you can thank veers for making people want to gank you.
Charlie Jacobson 323	Posted - 2015.03.13 10:49:50 - [308] - Quote I can hardly contain my giggles. Looking forward to this weekend. I support James 315 and the New Order of Highsec
Piz Caldera Saubaer Schweinepriester 27	Posted - 2015.03.13 12:13:59 - [309] - Quote The End! lets sing a song together. Sing it loud! praise it! This is the end, beautiful friend This is the end, my only friend, the end Of our elaborate plans, the end Of everything that stands, the end No safety or surprise, the end I'll never look into your eyes, again . . . The killer awoke before dawn, he put his boots on He took a face from the ancient gallery And he walked on down the hall . . . And meet me at the back of the blue bus Doin' a blue rock, on a blue bus Doin' a blue rock, c'mon, yeah Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill This is the end, beautiful friend This is the end, my only friend, the end It hurts to set you free But you'll never follow me The end of laughter and soft lies The end of nights we tried to die This is the end
John E Normus New Order Logistics CODE. 503	Posted - 2015.03.13 16:14:08 - [310] - Quote Questions from the CODERED meeting last night. Why is Capt Starcox afraid of Mackinaw pods? Why does Borgia always announce a break before something weird happens. Why is root hiding from me? Why is the Canadian wing of the New Order so difficult to get rid of? Why does the New Order for Hillary movement grind my gears? Why is Super's alt a "problem?" Why is it a bad thing when Mildron giggles on comms? New horizons are opening. Between Ignorance and Wisdom
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 987	Posted - 2015.03.13 17:14:08 - [311] - Quote Charlie Jacobson wrote: I can hardly contain my giggles. Looking forward to this weekend. My power supply died, and I've been quoted "up to 5 business days" to get the replacement... fml No Eve for me all weekend... unless my 8 yr old beast of desktop can hold itself together long enough to update eve... Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
John E Normus New Order Logistics CODE. 504	Posted - 2015.03.13 17:53:21 - [312] - Quote TENGU!!!! Between Ignorance and Wisdom
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 989	Posted - 2015.03.13 18:16:25 - [313] - Quote John E Normus wrote: TENGU!!!! John!!!!!!!!!!! Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
John E Normus New Order Logistics CODE. 504	Posted - 2015.03.13 19:27:40 - [314] - Quote Teamspeak or mail? Between Ignorance and Wisdom
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 989	Posted - 2015.03.13 19:31:51 - [315] - Quote John E Normus wrote: Teamspeak or mail? mail. I'm using a crap laptop at work as my power cord died. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Gerhard Stringfellow Umbra Mining and Industry 7	Posted - 2015.03.14 10:21:24 - [316] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Kaely Tanniss wrote: Veers...you are the only one in denial thinking that somehow the code is dying. You wouldn't know anything about eve if it sat on your face and started to wiggle. You have a truly skewed vision of what is really going on...not to mention your own self worth. So troll on...since it's the only thing that gives you any remote sense of validity. Also...you better pray, or whatever you do, that someday code doesn't die...because then you will return to obscurity and mean absolutely nothing again...since it is code that gave you your sense of purpose to begin with. Remember..there can't be one without the other..what will you whine about if code were to be gone? Oh noes!!! ...but I'm sure you'll find something to feed your undeserved sense of importance and worth. Check killboard activity...fallen off a cliff. We live in a world of objective evidence, not bald faced assertion. Jesus Veers, give it a rest. You're either unhealthily passionate about this or a the best publicity alt CODE ever made. I think CODE is a joke as well, but they aren't really relevant anymore. You seem to be trying to make them relevant by posting about them 24/7, if anything.
Jevatoxa Amandla Legion 7	Posted - 2015.03.14 17:22:23 - [317] - Quote Bronson Hughes wrote: To the rest of CODE., MiniLuv, and C&P: Keep on ganking. You keep EvE interesting. Agree totally with this. We've often been on opposite sides of the field, but I have a huge respect for these guys for creating the content they do and helping keep Eve's unique place among other MMOs. Long may it continue.
Iain Cariaba 1150	Posted - 2015.03.14 18:14:30 - [318] - Quote I stop reading C&P for three months and what do I find when I return? Same old Veers trying to take Gevlin's crown for "King of the Clueless." I guess some things never change. Back to ignoring C&P again. EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid. I couldn't have said it better.
Kaely Tanniss Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 280	Posted - 2015.03.14 19:35:28 - [319] - Quote Iain Cariaba wrote: I stop reading C&P for three months and what do I find when I return? Same old Veers trying to take Gevlin's crown for "King of the Clueless." I guess some things never change. Back to ignoring C&P again. Hehehe...trying you say. Idk, he's definitely a contender. If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 547	Posted - 2015.03.15 01:56:25 - [320] - Quote Gerhard Stringfellow wrote: Jesus Veers, give it a rest. You're either unhealthily passionate about this or the best publicity alt CODE ever made. I think CODE is a joke as well, but they aren't really relevant anymore don't deserve this level of vitriol. You seem to be trying to make them relevant by posting about them 24/7, if anything. As far as I'm concerned, if they're operating within game mechanics it doesn't need CCP's intervention. There are no shortage of hazards in EvE, just treat them accordingly the same way you do everything else. And another big winner in the missing the point competition. No one is "obsessed" with Code. What we do appreciate is the effectiveness of code as an instructive heuristic. Approximately 6 months ago I engaged with the griefers, and warned them that their bad conduct, and failure to obey the dictates of their own code, would lead to their demise. At the time I was roundly mocked for my brave prediction, as, much like those who foresaw the collapse of the soviet union at the apex of its power, I was simply too sophisticated for my detractors to ably measure. Now mind you, I foretold this exact eventually when code was running daily freighter ganking fleets, uedama was on fire, and there seemed to be no hope for highsec PvE play. Much like those who shorted enron, or properly saw pearl harbor as the beginning of the end, my vision was clear, and judgment unclouded. What I explained to loyalanon, and to to other code leadership members, is that people play eve to build, not to destroy. They want to work with others and accomplish common goals to benefit all eve players, not to grief and humiliate the weakest and most pathetic, and drive them to quit the game. Highsec is about teamwork, loyalty, compassion, mutual benefit, and neverending nash equilibriums. That's why I explained to code that they needed more carrot and less stick, more bumping and less ganking, more dialogue, more integrity, and a cast iron commitment to always following their own code. They refused to listen, they mocked me, they launched a hilariously failed incursion ganking contest, and slowly they faded into the dustbin of history. At this point, as you can see from John's post, code is reduced to little more than a chummy country club group, as they sit around, sip martinis, and reminisce over their former glory days; they are truly relics of a bygone era with no hope of ever returning to their former strength. So to john, to miss foxie, and to the few diehards that remain, I beseech you, admit defeat, disband, unconditionally surrender to those who have outlasted you, and join us in collaborative PvE play in highsec.
Gerhard Stringfellow The Scope Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2015.03.15 09:10:28 - [321] - Quote Veers Wall of text people play eve to build, not to destroy People play EvE for all sorts of reasons, and even the most docile carebear will eventually want to rough things up once he has the skills and isk to do so. Claim you beat CODE, claim you run hi-sec, claim you're a prophet, but you don't speak for hi-sec or anyone but yourself; we're not all a bunch of defenseless grass eating whiners. If anything beat CODE, it was the fact that aside from harassing miners in heavily populated areas, hi-sec is just too damn big for them to police and the presence of concord makes it even more difficult, but it's mostly size of the space and the lack of available people enforcing "the code". Granted, I think CODE is just as silly as you do, but don't get the idea that whining ever killed anything but sex appeal. tl'dr you don't represent hi-sec, stop pretending to be our mouthpiece
Iain Cariaba 1155	Posted - 2015.03.15 17:08:56 - [322] - Quote Kaely Tanniss wrote: Iain Cariaba wrote: I stop reading C&P for three months and what do I find when I return? Same old Veers trying to take Gevlin's crown for "King of the Clueless." I guess some things never change. Back to ignoring C&P again. Hehehe...trying you say. Idk, he's definitely a contender. Nope, he's missing the poor interpretation of vast quantities of meaningless graphs to go along with his "I'm singlehandedly responsible for the fall of [group], even though I've been too risk averse to undock if there was even a miniscule chance someone might look at me funny." He needs more graphs showing how the rise in number of Drifter kills in Omist proves that he personally talked loyalanon into quitting. EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid. I couldn't have said it better.
Jevatoxa Amandla Legion 9	Posted - 2015.03.15 19:24:45 - [323] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Approximately 6 months ago I engaged with the griefers, and warned them that their bad conduct, and failure to obey the dictates of their own code, would lead to their demise. At the time I was roundly mocked for my brave prediction, as, much like those who foresaw the collapse of the soviet union at the apex of its power, I was simply too sophisticated for my detractors to ably measure. The narcissism is strong in this one. I shall pray to you tonight.
Elizabeth Norn Nornir Research 522	Posted - 2015.03.15 19:32:14 - [324] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: No one is "obsessed" with Code. I dunno, 600+ posts regarding CODE sounds pretty obsessed. .
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 548	Posted - 2015.03.15 19:58:02 - [325] - Quote Elizabeth Norn wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: No one is "obsessed" with Code. I dunno, 600+ posts regarding CODE sounds pretty obsessed. Lol....finding a useful teaching tool about why highsec ganking will never cause solitary PvE players to become more involved in the social fabric of the game is not "obsession." It's called drawing appropriate lessons from past historical events, a specialty of mine. Notice how the whole "changing the risk/reward balance in highsec" rhetoric has fallen away. It turns out that ganking may be good for giggles and tears, but it is not good in exposing miners to other types of gameplay. All it does is give miners an enemy to despise, and an inflated sense of self importance ("oh look, the entire might of goons is deployed to try and suppress highsec mining. We must be really important for them to bother"). If anything, it causes miners to get angry, and respond by mining even more to show the gankers that they can't win. As I told the code folks some months ago, the only way to get miners more involved in the game is through discussion, education, friendly advice, benevolent guidance, and perhaps the occasional bump. Those methods work, blowing them up in some absurd attempt to change their gameplay style does not. If I post a lot about code it's only because of how instructive it is when hundreds of supposedly intelligent people engage in a course of action that even the village fool easily understands has no prospects of success. We don't ask for brilliance, we do ask for some basic good judgment.
karma balancer Australian mining and land rights 3	Posted - 2015.03.16 09:36:56 - [326] - Quote Too much crap did not read EEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Aoife Fraoch Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 32	Posted - 2015.03.16 10:05:28 - [327] - Quote Elizabeth Norn wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: No one is "obsessed" with Code. I dunno, 600+ posts regarding CODE sounds pretty obsessed. Veers, get help. I don't think I have ever seen you not post about code. They more or less own you.
I am providence Viziam Amarr Empire 48	Posted - 2015.03.16 11:33:37 - [328] - Quote Aoife Fraoch wrote: Elizabeth Norn wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: No one is "obsessed" with Code. I dunno, 600+ posts regarding CODE sounds pretty obsessed. Veers, get help. I don't think I have ever seen you not post about code. They more or less own you. Psst... dont tell him the obvious My Blog (german): http://theevevirus.wordpress.com/ All about trading, some PvP, some politics... whatever i want to write about
Tetrachlorodi benzodioxin State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.03.16 13:38:52 - [329] - Quote Damn. I had a secret crush on loyalanon ever since hearing his authoritative, manly voice on on the Veers Tears recordings, but never had the courage to join TCE and express my devotion. And now I never will. sigh
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 995	Posted - 2015.03.16 16:57:55 - [330] - Quote Tetrachlorodi benzodioxin wrote: Damn. I had a secret crush on loyalanon ever since hearing his authoritative, manly voice on on the Veers Tears recordings, but never had the courage to join TCE and express my devotion. And now I never will. sigh Do not lose faith. TCE is still a great corporation run by great people. Have faith and join TCE, you will not be disappointed. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.

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