EVE Search - The end of code?

All Channels

Crime and Punishment

The end of code?

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 .. 12 :: [one page]
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 478	Posted - 2015.02.08 20:39:37 - [1] - Quote between this, Feyd going to null, and Cannibal Kane mostly going inactive, highsec griefing may be over. Veers always wins! http://www.minerbumping.com/2015/02/highsec-miner-grab-bag-72.html?showComment=1423419940758#c5043912067282719038 (08.02.2015 16:25:07) redacted: Hello everyone, This is a mail regarding my departure from Eve. Its been a good 2 years with the New Order of High Sec/Code Alliance and I have come to make alot of good friends/enemies in this game. I would like to thank everyone for there support and in the help in us achieving some great things while being a part of the New Order. For me though it is time for me to concentrate on real life and my family hence why I am leaving Eve. I would like to say a big shout out to John E Normus and Capt Starfox for always being around when we were going through spaceship dramas and the countless hours/days we spent pvping miners. To The Conference Elite pilots thankyou for making TCE one of the greatest corps in all of eve and I am sure you will still carry the banner for months to come. I am incredibly proud of what we have all achieved in Eve, and for helping me shove carebear tears up CCP's xxxxx whenever they tried to nerf our playstyle. It has been an amazing journey through friendships, carebear tears, ts rage, milestones etc but for me real life comes first. I can be reached on redacted if anyone wants to catch up at anytime, Also please feel free to mail me if any of you come to New Zealand. To our Saviour James 315, keep rocking on, I will forever be grateful in your belief in me, and in your help that you have given me throughout the last year and a half, it has truly been a pleasure. To someone in goons can you please pass this message onto all of Mini-luv. Thankyou all o/ loyalanon PS - I will occassionally jump on however I wont be on everyday/week etc.
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 1148	Posted - 2015.02.08 20:52:37 - [2] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: poopies diaper and decides to get artistic ..... Cutey snoogums, we all know you like to paint, but next time use..um....paint. It's not cute and it smells. turns on the firehose Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Purun Dass CODE. Intelligence Agency 0	Posted - 2015.02.08 21:17:57 - [3] - Quote While loyalanon is a galvanizing figure within the CODE. Alliance and the New Order in general and gets quite a bit of attention, the alliance and the New Order in general is represented by hundreds of capsuleers. While I would expect the alliance's killboard tallies to drop in the near-term as a result of losing a skilled, highly active FC, I would also expect them to recover at some point in the future. The Alliance, and the New Order, have lost many players over their three years of operation that were notable in their era. They've been lost to nullsec in some cases, to permanent bans in others, and a few such as loyalanon and Black Skull have voluntarily retired. Each time others have stepped in to take their place, and I see no reason why this wouldn't be any different. I think it's safe to say that The New Order isn't going anywhere and that the Alliance will remain one of the best content creation outfits in hisec.
BaByTemP Death Stroke Undertaking TCC. 13	Posted - 2015.02.08 21:58:16 - [4] - Quote bro u up in Auckland, 1v1 i think its for the best. posting became a bit stale towards the end and was no longer worth the eye movement. hasta Otara
Leto Thule Team Pizza Disavowed. 2073	Posted - 2015.02.08 22:03:30 - [5] - Quote Confirming that someone leaving a game for real life priorities means veers wins. It must be truly amazing to find personal victory in random events wholly out of your control or even slightest influence. Big Fat Forum Meanie and Thanatos Scammer
Karla the Careless Beyond Reproach 0	Posted - 2015.02.08 22:15:36 - [6] - Quote So many more to go, though.......
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 480	Posted - 2015.02.08 22:16:22 - [7] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: Confirming that someone leaving a game for real life priorities means veers wins. It must be truly amazing to find personal victory in random events wholly out of your control or even slightest influence. Code, led by loayalanon, launched an anti-incursion campaign meant to force us to buy permits or stop profitably running incursions. He failed miserably, which is probably a major reason for his exit stage left. I take full credit for standing up for the good guys and defeating the forces of evil.
Sabriz Adoudel Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 4552	Posted - 2015.02.08 23:27:54 - [8] - Quote Loyal will go onto other things in his life (I believe he has young kids but I actually don't know him well), but the impact he has had on EVE will not soon be forgotten, either by friends or foes. Contrast this to a PVE grinder, who will not be remembered with respect, fear, contempt or loyalty by anyone other than (maybe) their close in-game friends. I know - I've been one (in other games), and led a couple of gamewide first completions. Noone would remember me in those games now except a few in my old guild. Huge shoes to fill. On the flip side, this probably means a patching of CODE-Marmite relations. Really want to have some good fights with Marmites before that happens. Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
Jishi Padecain Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2015.02.08 23:51:18 - [9] - Quote Regardless of who you are in EVE be it miner, ganker, carebear, anti-ganker, nullsec elite pvper, etc. seeing a player who helped create content leaving the game is a great loss for us all. loyalanon used guns and ships to make his name famous and drive a point across. He became notorious because he knew how to play the game well and make the rules and mechanics work for him. Unlike some people in this game who's only claim to fame is being incredibly annoying and waterlogging threads with tears. I've had run-ins with loyal in the past, but as a player you simply cannot deny how influential of a person they were in EVE. Good luck in life and congratulations on winning at EVE. o7
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 482	Posted - 2015.02.09 00:17:56 - [10] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Loyal will go onto other things in his life (I believe he has young kids but I actually don't know him well), but the impact he has had on EVE will not soon be forgotten, either by friends or foes. Contrast this to a PVE grinder, who will not be remembered with respect, fear, contempt or loyalty by anyone other than (maybe) their close in-game friends. I know - I've been one (in other games), and led a couple of gamewide first completions. Noone would remember me in those games now except a few in my old guild. Huge shoes to fill. On the flip side, this probably means a patching of CODE-Marmite relations. Really want to have some good fights with Marmites before that happens. Oh dear, I really hope you don't believe that nonsense...or intend to bring those distorted views to the CSM (but hey, at least you won the AT!). Loyalanon caused countless players to quit the game forever, as they were not interested in playing a game where harm is inflicted, for no tangible benefit, simply to enjoy sadistic pleasure at other's misfortune. One can only hope that Loyalanon's retirement comes after carefully considering his record in the game, the pain he has inflicted on so many innocent highsec players, and such other detrimental activities that he has engaged in. Perhaps the profound feelings of guilt caused him to reassess his conduct, and shamefully flee from his hideous in game reputation. As far as being remembered...certainly, he will be remembered. Like many cold blooded criminals throughout history his name will be etched in minds for posterity, a warning of what can become of those who abandon any semblance of common decency and moral values. To be remembered for evil is no great merit - far better to be forgotten for good....how many of our criminal masterminds throughout the ages would give anything to return and repair their sullied names? Loyalanon will be remembered allright, remembered for crime, remembered for pain, remembered for taunting, tear collection, and rage inducement. Remembered for everything that one can possibly do wrong in the game. Congratulations Loyalanon, you lost Eve. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 919	Posted - 2015.02.09 00:31:55 - [11] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Loyal will go onto other things in his life (I believe he has young kids but I actually don't know him well), but the impact he has had on EVE will not soon be forgotten, either by friends or foes. Contrast this to a PVE grinder, who will not be remembered with respect, fear, contempt or loyalty by anyone other than (maybe) their close in-game friends. I know - I've been one (in other games), and led a couple of gamewide first completions. Noone would remember me in those games now except a few in my old guild. Huge shoes to fill. On the flip side, this probably means a patching of CODE-Marmite relations. Really want to have some good fights with Marmites before that happens. Oh dear, I really hope you don't believe that nonsense...or intend to bring those distorted views to the CSM (but hey, at least you won the AT!). Loyalanon caused countless players to quit the game forever, as they were not interested in playing a game where harm is inflicted, for no tangible benefit, simply to enjoy sadistic pleasure at other's misfortune. One can only hope that Loyalanon's retirement comes after carefully considering his record in the game, the pain he has inflicted on so many innocent highsec players, and such other detrimental activities that he has engaged in. Perhaps the profound feelings of guilt caused him to reassess his conduct, and shamefully flee from his hideous in game reputation. As far as being remembered...certainly, he will be remembered. Like many cold blooded criminals throughout history his name will be etched in minds for posterity, a warning of what can become of those who abandon any semblance of common decency and moral values. To be remembered for evil is no great merit - far better to be forgotten for good....how many of our criminal masterminds throughout the ages would give anything to return and repair their sullied names? Loyalanon will be remembered allright, remembered for crime, remembered for pain, remembered for taunting, tear collection, and rage inducement. Remembered for everything that one can possibly do wrong in the game. Congratulations Loyalanon, you lost Eve. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Remove insurance. This thread is the reason, why CCP should stop advertising any aspect of EVE PvE
Asia Leigh Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 235	Posted - 2015.02.09 00:42:00 - [12] - Quote Are you trolling? I sincerely hope you are... Someone leaving for personal reasons does not equal you winning or forcing them out of the game. Try again. 0/10 `Apply the damn rules equally >.>`
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 482	Posted - 2015.02.09 00:52:22 - [13] - Quote Asia Leigh wrote: Are you trolling? I sincerely hope you are... Someone leaving for personal reasons does not equal you winning or forcing them out of the game. Try again. 0/10 It sure does when the entire focus of their play was to make highsec PvE unprofitable and force everyone into nullsec. The fact that their campaign failed spectacularly is absolutely a complete and total victory for the highsec PvE players. That Loyalanon, James 315, Capt Starfox, and others have now all "retired to spend more time with their families" (politician speak for abandoning a hopeless cause) is the biggest possible win for highsec players anywhere.
Haedonism Bot Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 1670	Posted - 2015.02.09 00:54:39 - [14] - Quote Asia Leigh wrote: Are you trolling? I sincerely hope you are... Someone leaving for personal reasons does not equal you winning or forcing them out of the game. Try again. 0/10 Veers is always trolling. Bye loyalanon o/ I had my share of issues with you but I can't deny that EVE will be a poorer game without the content that you create. Regardless of whatever you do or don't do, you have already earned your place in EVE history, and will be remembered for a long time. Good luck and enjoy your time with your family. www.everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com Vote Sabriz Adoudel and Tora Bushido for CSMX. Keep the Evil in EVE!
Mara Pahrdi The Order of Anoyia 919	Posted - 2015.02.09 01:32:37 - [15] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Asia Leigh wrote: Are you trolling? I sincerely hope you are... Someone leaving for personal reasons does not equal you winning or forcing them out of the game. Try again. 0/10 It sure does when the entire focus of their play was to make highsec PvE unprofitable and force everyone into nullsec. The fact that their campaign failed spectacularly is absolutely a complete and total victory for the highsec PvE players. That Loyalanon, James 315, Capt Starfox, and others have now all "retired to spend more time with their families" (politician speak for abandoning a hopeless cause) is the biggest possible win for highsec players anywhere. Remove insurance. This thread is the reason, why CCP should stop advertising any aspect of EVE PvE
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 8795	Posted - 2015.02.09 01:46:02 - [16] - Quote prey tell us veers "Blood&Feathers " belvar, what do either of these things have to do with you? "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 482	Posted - 2015.02.09 02:15:12 - [17] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: prey tell us veers "Blood&Feathers " belvar, what do either of these things have to do with you? I was the guy they targeted in their failed anti-incursion campaign...and I am now the one laughing over the smoldering ashes of code and other highsec grief groups. In the end, the good guys always win. Perhaps you should join Feyd in nullsec, as I feel your time in highsec is nearing an end.
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 1307	Posted - 2015.02.09 03:22:04 - [18] - Quote I assure you that for so long as my remaining chickens cower in the corner in traumatized shock as a result of your magnificent shiptoasting that there shall be bears being badtouched by myself and others. No era has come to an end. Take down your cardboard sign and chillax. I've been quiet lately because of work, life, reasons, and discovering that weed and EVE don't really mix for me. Once the green runs out and I'm running on Sam Adams alone I assure that I shall be back for the attack and in search of a shiny mach kill to leave steaming on your virtual doorstep. It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
Baggo Hammers 299	Posted - 2015.02.09 03:39:38 - [19] - Quote Why does this guy keep posting like he is some well known person? If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there.
Nodu Ellecon Unleashed' Fury Forsaken Federation 4	Posted - 2015.02.09 04:00:41 - [20] - Quote If you are going to post stuff like that, Belvar, at least try to be amusing about it, and not making reading your posts to be beyond cringe worthy. The only reason you are so memorable is because of loyalanon, an entertaining content creator who always catches the attention of the majority of the EVE community, and hence, gets a lot of influence. You are merely one who follows close behind and gets a small share of the influence, but since he left EVE (temporarily), what will you do now? Will you still strive to accomplish your "Intentions", or will you be forgotten? Props to you, loyalanon. Glad to know that you prioritize real life matters, over EVE, and hope that you will come back soon, to create more content for us! I'm certain that the code will still thrive, even with your absence. Always fly dangerous o7
Zepher Helen Hawat ULTRAMAR SECURITIES 36	Posted - 2015.02.09 04:01:29 - [21] - Quote Baggo Hammers wrote: Why does this guy keep posting like he is some well known person? Because people keep responding to him, extending his "15 minutes" of fame. If everyone just ignored him he would soon dry up and blow away like an old fart. Unfortunately some people like feeding trolls, so were stuck with a certain amount of idiocy. I just tend to skip over his posts... saves time.
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen Origin. Black Legion. 1871	Posted - 2015.02.09 04:17:08 - [22] - Quote Confirming Veers is very super famous "I'm like AIDS...everyone has heard of me..." Would you like to know more?
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 793	Posted - 2015.02.09 05:13:35 - [23] - Quote To Loyal: So long, and thanks for all the fish. To Veers: It has nothing to do with you as nothing you do affects anyone. The game will notice the loss of loyal. The game will never notice the effect of Veers. Vote Sabriz!
Kaely Tanniss Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 223	Posted - 2015.02.09 05:52:31 - [24] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: between this, Feyd going to null, and Cannibal Kane mostly going inactive, highsec griefing may be over. Veers always wins! http://www.minerbumping.com/2015/02/highsec-miner-grab-bag-72.html?showComment=1423419940758#c5043912067282719038 (08.02.2015 16:25:07) redacted: Hello everyone, This is a mail regarding my departure from Eve. Its been a good 2 years with the New Order of High Sec/Code Alliance and I have come to make alot of good friends/enemies in this game. I would like to thank everyone for there support and in the help in us achieving some great things while being a part of the New Order. For me though it is time for me to concentrate on real life and my family hence why I am leaving Eve. I would like to say a big shout out to John E Normus and Capt Starfox for always being around when we were going through spaceship dramas and the countless hours/days we spent pvping miners. To The Conference Elite pilots thankyou for making TCE one of the greatest corps in all of eve and I am sure you will still carry the banner for months to come. I am incredibly proud of what we have all achieved in Eve, and for helping me shove carebear tears up CCP's xxxxx whenever they tried to nerf our playstyle. It has been an amazing journey through friendships, carebear tears, ts rage, milestones etc but for me real life comes first. I can be reached on redacted if anyone wants to catch up at anytime, Also please feel free to mail me if any of you come to New Zealand. To our Saviour James 315, keep rocking on, I will forever be grateful in your belief in me, and in your help that you have given me throughout the last year and a half, it has truly been a pleasure. To someone in goons can you please pass this message onto all of Mini-luv. Thankyou all o/ loyalanon PS - I will occassionally jump on however I wont be on everyday/week etc. Now this is just comedy. You assume so much Veers...it think it's cute. If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Sabriz Adoudel Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 4564	Posted - 2015.02.09 06:04:29 - [25] - Quote Ned Thomas wrote: To Loyal: So long, and thanks for all the fish. To Veers: It has nothing to do with you as nothing you do affects anyone. The game will notice the loss of loyal. The game will never notice the effect of Veers. Those of us who frequent the forums would notice the loss of Veers. The forums would be less hilarious if he quit the game. On the plus side, his posts that might mislead newbies into believing predatory gameplay is harassment and that GMs will protect them from it would not be missed. Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
hellyeaz Systems High Guard Circle-Of-Two 3	Posted - 2015.02.09 07:26:11 - [26] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: . Veers always whines! Fixed that for ya
ggodhsup relocation LLC. 45	Posted - 2015.02.09 07:52:47 - [27] - Quote so wait.... are you really that excited about this? veers i wonder what gets you up in the morning sometimes. then i realize you are less interesting then the droves of CODE. threads. and hope CODE. sticks around to only grief you. really CODE. or myself would never bother you, except you are always posting in these type of threads. you bring it on yourself.
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 5079	Posted - 2015.02.09 07:54:52 - [28] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Loyal will go onto other things in his life (I believe he has young kids but I actually don't know him well), but the impact he has had on EVE will not soon be forgotten, either by friends or foes. Contrast this to a PVE grinder, who will not be remembered with respect, fear, contempt or loyalty by anyone other than (maybe) their close in-game friends. I know - I've been one (in other games), and led a couple of gamewide first completions. Noone would remember me in those games now except a few in my old guild. I'd wager that just like you're gamewide firsts loyalanon will be pretty well forgotten by most people before long. To be quite honest he wasn't particularly known by a huge crowd anyway, he was just a ganker with a really bad attitude who like to run his mouth and insult people. As painful as it is to say, Gevlon's more widely known. The main place he'll be known is on zkillboards alltime losers ranking. Jishi Padecain wrote: Regardless of who you are in EVE be it miner, ganker, carebear, anti-ganker, nullsec elite pvper, etc. seeing a player who helped create content leaving the game is a great loss for us all. loyalanon used guns and ships to make his name famous and drive a point across. He became notorious because he knew how to play the game well and make the rules and mechanics work for him. Unlike some people in this game who's only claim to fame is being incredibly annoying and waterlogging threads with tears. loyalanon was a prime example of a player that was absolutely terrible for the community. Not fo his ganking, that's neither here nor there, but for the way he freaked out and spewed vile garbage almost constantly at people in local. There have been a few times I've had to move away from local on my trading alts purely because of the way he spoke to people. Good riddance. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
Tora Bushido EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 1913	Posted - 2015.02.09 07:55:54 - [29] - Quote What is still unclear to me is, was it a ban or family matters ? If a ban, what happened ? If family matters .... I might not like him, but that still sucks then. TORA FOR CSM X - A NEW HIGH-SEC YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie Brawlers Inc. 1426	Posted - 2015.02.09 08:06:04 - [30] - Quote Tora Bushido wrote: What is still unclear to me is, was it a ban or family matters ? If a ban, what happened ? If family matters .... I might not like him, but that still sucks then. Its not a ban or game related. I can't give more detail than that. New player resources: Uni Wiki - General Info Eve Altruist - PvP Belligerent Undesirables - High Sec Pvp
Tora Bushido EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 1913	Posted - 2015.02.09 08:12:45 - [31] - Quote BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote: Tora Bushido wrote: What is still unclear to me is, was it a ban or family matters ? If a ban, what happened ? If family matters .... I might not like him, but that still sucks then. Its not a ban or game related. I can't give more detail than that. Ok, so real family matters..... that sucks. TORA FOR CSM X - A NEW HIGH-SEC YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
Tasspool Harp Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 27	Posted - 2015.02.09 09:11:39 - [32] - Quote BaByTemP wrote: bro u up in Auckland, 1v1 hasta Otara I'm suspecting he is from around Dunedin. It might explain what happened to Levi Hawken's scooter ;) (Never go AFS - Away from Scooter/Skateboard)
Liek DarZ New Order Logistics CODE. 1	Posted - 2015.02.09 09:18:46 - [33] - Quote I can confirm I will completely drop ganking in the areas patrolled by me because Loyal is less often in game. ... There are many people in CODE, not just alts of loyal, and we go our ways because we like them :-) Enjoy your celebration, Veers, but do not forget to ask around in e.g. the Osmon area if CODE has vanished... Liek Darz, Knight of the New Order
Sabriz Adoudel Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 4569	Posted - 2015.02.09 09:21:35 - [34] - Quote Tora Bushido wrote: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote: Tora Bushido wrote: What is still unclear to me is, was it a ban or family matters ? If a ban, what happened ? If family matters .... I might not like him, but that still sucks then. Its not a ban or game related. I can't give more detail than that. Ok, so real family matters..... that sucks. Don't worry, I'm sure he'll be back to get on your nerves again :) Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 8798	Posted - 2015.02.09 09:32:42 - [35] - Quote Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote: Confirming Veers is very super famous "I'm like AIDS...everyone has heard of me..." Now that Feyd isn't my boss anymore I feel obliged to point out, If you have him set to neutral/blue/red/whatever the circumstances dictate, it kinda looks like he's being scolded by a little coloured square Iv no doubt I'll pay for that regardless. o7 Dude. "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Asia Leigh Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 240	Posted - 2015.02.09 10:12:16 - [36] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Asia Leigh wrote: Are you trolling? I sincerely hope you are... Someone leaving for personal reasons does not equal you winning or forcing them out of the game. Try again. 0/10 It sure does when the entire focus of their play was to make highsec PvE unprofitable and force everyone into nullsec. The fact that their campaign failed spectacularly is absolutely a complete and total victory for the highsec PvE players. That Loyalanon, James 315, Capt Starfox, and others have now all "retired to spend more time with their families" (politician speak for abandoning a hopeless cause) is the biggest possible win for highsec players anywhere. Okay... Now I'm convinced... You are just an imbecile. RL more important then Internet spaceships. Are you that disconnected with reality? `Apply the damn rules equally >.>`
Concord Guy's Cousin State War Academy Caldari State 592	Posted - 2015.02.09 11:11:25 - [37] - Quote Asia Leigh wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Asia Leigh wrote: Are you trolling? I sincerely hope you are... Someone leaving for personal reasons does not equal you winning or forcing them out of the game. Try again. 0/10 It sure does when the entire focus of their play was to make highsec PvE unprofitable and force everyone into nullsec. The fact that their campaign failed spectacularly is absolutely a complete and total victory for the highsec PvE players. That Loyalanon, James 315, Capt Starfox, and others have now all "retired to spend more time with their families" (politician speak for abandoning a hopeless cause) is the biggest possible win for highsec players anywhere. Okay... Now I'm convinced... You are just an imbecile. RL more important then Internet spaceships. Are you that disconnected with reality? Edit: Been awhile since I've been on the forums.. Who is this idiot, and why does he think he even matters? Welcome to the twilight zone. Obligatory STFU Veers ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries" NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
Ro Fenrios Armilies corporation Skeleton Crew. 47	Posted - 2015.02.09 11:42:34 - [38] - Quote Asia Leigh wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Asia Leigh wrote: Are you trolling? I sincerely hope you are... Someone leaving for personal reasons does not equal you winning or forcing them out of the game. Try again. 0/10 It sure does when the entire focus of their play was to make highsec PvE unprofitable and force everyone into nullsec. The fact that their campaign failed spectacularly is absolutely a complete and total victory for the highsec PvE players. That Loyalanon, James 315, Capt Starfox, and others have now all "retired to spend more time with their families" (politician speak for abandoning a hopeless cause) is the biggest possible win for highsec players anywhere. Okay... Now I'm convinced... You are just an imbecile. RL more important then Internet spaceships. Are you that disconnected with reality? Edit: Been awhile since I've been on the forums.. Who is this idiot, and why does he think he even matters? Veers? Describes himself as elite player, and CODE. Alliance's worst enemy, although he probably has either unintentionally or intentionally helped CODE. To boost its image and recruit numerous people to its fold. Notably Gorilla, who used to be AG's most powerful white knight. There is popular theory that Veers is actually CODE. And his comments and threads are meant to soften the general view of community to be more acceptable towards new order. And this is legit. Depending on case, he is either brilliant troll or then unbelievable fool. In any case his posts are quite humorous albeit far from any reasonable frames of reality. Perhaps this thread is just CODE. Trying to do damage control.... Hard to tell.
Siegfried Cohenberg Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 37	Posted - 2015.02.09 11:56:47 - [39] - Quote veers i recommend warping your physical body straight into the sun in game
Nicolai Serkanner Jebediah Kerman's Junkyard and Spaceship Parts Co. Brave Collective 276	Posted - 2015.02.09 12:16:47 - [40] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: blegh You are truly beyond stupid.
Myriad Blaze Common Sense Ltd Nulli Secunda 298	Posted - 2015.02.09 13:05:21 - [41] - Quote Please tell me Veers Belvar is really a CODE agent alt and all this is a clever psychological trick to recruit new members for CODE... because it's working... I really feel compelled now to roll an alt to follow in the footsteps of loyalanon. J'Poll: EVE doesn't hand out cookies to you. EVE kicks you down, steals your cookie and then laughs at you for bringing a cookie in the first place.
Concord Guy's Cousin State War Academy Caldari State 592	Posted - 2015.02.09 13:18:27 - [42] - Quote Myriad Blaze wrote: Please tell me Veers Belvar is really a CODE agent alt and all this is a clever psychological trick to recruit new members for CODE... because it's working... I really feel compelled now to roll an alt to follow in the footsteps of loyalanon. It has been speculated that veers is a CODE. shill for a while now, of course he'll deny it. If he is a CODE. shill then the person behind him is a propaganda genius, if he isn't a CODE. shill then he's a blathering idiot with some very obvious issues and an extremely poor grip on the reality of Eve. Either way the idiocy he posts has benefited CODE. in terms of recruitment and visibility. ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries" NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 804	Posted - 2015.02.09 13:39:35 - [43] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Ned Thomas wrote: To Loyal: So long, and thanks for all the fish. To Veers: It has nothing to do with you as nothing you do affects anyone. The game will notice the loss of loyal. The game will never notice the effect of Veers. Those of us who frequent the forums would notice the loss of Veers. The forums would be less hilarious if he quit the game. On the plus side, his posts that might mislead newbies into believing predatory gameplay is harassment and that GMs will protect them from it would not be missed. Oh come on. I've had him blocked for about two months and have barely noticed Side note: it IS much more entertaining to see people respond to Veers when you don't know what he actually said. Vote Sabriz!
Agondray Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces 192	Posted - 2015.02.09 14:48:19 - [44] - Quote we could wish but way to many gank for one reason or another since they started, so while code it self my shutdown the ganking wont "Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
ISD Cyberdyne ISD Community Communications Liaisons 1821	Posted - 2015.02.09 15:15:07 - [45] - Quote I've removed a couple rule violations from this thread. Please remember that the forum rules dictate respect to one another and to refrain from personal attacks. Please adhere to these rules when posting. Thank you. Quote: Forum rules 2. Be respectful toward others at all times. The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others. 4. Personal attacks are prohibited. Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not conductive to the community spirit that CCP promotes. As such, this kind of behavior will not be tolerated. 23. Post constructively. Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting. ISD Cyberdyne Lieutenant Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 797	Posted - 2015.02.09 15:33:33 - [46] - Quote Ok everyone, the show is over... You can now dock your Procurer and mine in a yield fitted, anti-tanked Hulk again. the Code ALWAYS wins
Gaylord Fappington GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 58	Posted - 2015.02.09 17:14:45 - [47] - Quote When you play a game about shooting other people's spaceships and those people celebrate you choosing to spend your free time doing things other than shooting their spaceships, you know you did a darn good job shooting their spaceships. All the best loyalanon. Piekura just got a bit more boring.
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 900	Posted - 2015.02.09 17:31:28 - [48] - Quote Myriad Blaze wrote: Please tell me Veers Belvar is really a CODE agent alt and all this is a clever psychological trick to recruit new members for CODE... because it's working... I really feel compelled now to roll an alt to follow in the footsteps of loyalanon. ;) Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 1352	Posted - 2015.02.09 18:47:39 - [49] - Quote loyal: As someone who has left the game for personal family stuff, and is on the verge of doing so again, I wish you well. We didn't interact much, but you were always gracious to me, and for that I thank you. Veers: You claim you stopped CODE. efforts to move ganking into incursion running. If you did, good for you. You created content, and that's what EvE is all about: player-driven content. But if you did, I have to ask: why not post about that instead of things you had no direct control over? loyal certainly isn't the type to back away from a fight so I can't possibly see how a failed ganking campaign would make someone like him quit EvE. To the rest of CODE., MiniLuv, and C&P: Keep on ganking. You keep EvE interesting. My Many Misadventures Reading Comprehension: so important it deserves it's own skillbook. I seek to create content, not become content.
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 1352	Posted - 2015.02.09 18:50:40 - [50] - Quote Tengu Grib wrote: Myriad Blaze wrote: Please tell me Veers Belvar is really a CODE agent alt and all this is a clever psychological trick to recruit new members for CODE... because it's working... I really feel compelled now to roll an alt to follow in the footsteps of loyalanon. ;) CODE. DDOS agent? Oh wait.... (DISCLAIMER: I am not accusing anyone of being any sort of hacker. This is simply an inside joke played out in a public forum.) My Many Misadventures Reading Comprehension: so important it deserves it's own skillbook. I seek to create content, not become content.
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen Origin. Black Legion. 1878	Posted - 2015.02.09 20:12:22 - [51] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: .. If you have him set to neutral/blue/red/whatever the circumstances dictate, it kinda looks like he's being scolded by a little coloured square ... Iv no doubt I'll pay for that regardless. o7 Dude. Its a bow you heathen, somewhere between an Eshaku & Keirei. F Would you like to know more?
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie Brawlers Inc. 1430	Posted - 2015.02.09 22:39:46 - [52] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote: Confirming Veers is very super famous "I'm like AIDS...everyone has heard of me..." Now that Feyd isn't my boss anymore I feel obliged to point out, If you have him set to neutral/blue/red/whatever the circumstances dictate, it kinda looks like he's being scolded by a little coloured square Wait, what happened?!?!?! New player resources: Uni Wiki - General Info Eve Altruist - PvP Belligerent Undesirables - High Sec Pvp
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 902	Posted - 2015.02.09 22:48:14 - [53] - Quote BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote: Confirming Veers is very super famous "I'm like AIDS...everyone has heard of me..." Now that Feyd isn't my boss anymore I feel obliged to point out, If you have him set to neutral/blue/red/whatever the circumstances dictate, it kinda looks like he's being scolded by a little coloured square Wait, what happened?!?!?! You didn't notice? Feyd joined Black Legion. I was gone for 10 days and I knew that! (honestly I found out like 3 hours ago) Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 485	Posted - 2015.02.10 03:44:42 - [54] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Ned Thomas wrote: To Loyal: So long, and thanks for all the fish. To Veers: It has nothing to do with you as nothing you do affects anyone. The game will notice the loss of loyal. The game will never notice the effect of Veers. Those of us who frequent the forums would notice the loss of Veers. The forums would be less hilarious if he quit the game. On the plus side, his posts that might mislead newbies into believing predatory gameplay is harassment and that GMs will protect them from it would not be missed. Such nonsense.....predatory gameplay is not harassment...nor have I promised that GM's will protect new players from it. What I have advocated for is a stronger low enforcement presence in highsec, so that bad people are punished appropriately. Considering you are running for CSM, you might try sticking to the truth, can't imagine that peddling fairy tales and lies will help you get elected.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 485	Posted - 2015.02.10 03:45:38 - [55] - Quote Agondray wrote: we could wish but way to many gank for one reason or another since they started, so while code it self my shutdown the ganking wont Losing their main FC will considerably weaken their efforts...code is slowly disintegrating, and will soon be relegated to the dustbin of history.
Zepher Helen Hawat ULTRAMAR SECURITIES 38	Posted - 2015.02.10 04:20:46 - [56] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Agondray wrote: we could wish but way to many gank for one reason or another since they started, so while code it self my shutdown the ganking wont Losing their main FC will considerably weaken their efforts...code is slowly disintegrating, and will soon be relegated to the dustbin of history. What will you do then? It's seems your sole reason for being here is to rant about CODE. If they "enter the dustbin of history", will you follow? What will be your purpose... so much time in threads and blogs, your life would seem empty and pale.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 485	Posted - 2015.02.10 04:22:58 - [57] - Quote Zepher Helen Hawat wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Agondray wrote: we could wish but way to many gank for one reason or another since they started, so while code it self my shutdown the ganking wont Losing their main FC will considerably weaken their efforts...code is slowly disintegrating, and will soon be relegated to the dustbin of history. What will you do then? It's seems your sole reason for being here is to rant about CODE. If they "enter the dustbin of history", will you follow? What will be your purpose... so much time in threads and blogs, your life would seem empty and pale. Ha! I'm an elite incursion and L4 runner....I accumulate isk and materially affect the Eve economy. Now with the downfall of code and other highsec griefers I will peacefully continue to increase my wealth and power.
Skipper Huitzilopoch New Order Logistics CODE. 28	Posted - 2015.02.10 05:36:48 - [58] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Now with the downfall of code and other highsec griefers I will peacefully continue to increase my wealth and power. What for?
Myriad Blaze Common Sense Ltd Nulli Secunda 303	Posted - 2015.02.10 06:27:13 - [59] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: What I have advocated for is a stronger low enforcement presence in highsec, so that bad people are punished appropriately. CODE is already punishing the bad people and is upholding the law as laid down in the New Halaima Code Of Conduct (read here: http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html). You could argue that the punishment for violating the code is not always appropriate... but that's because James 315 is such a forgiving person who believes education and guidance is better than ruling by fear and suppression. J'Poll: EVE doesn't hand out cookies to you. EVE kicks you down, steals your cookie and then laughs at you for bringing a cookie in the first place.
Concord Guy's Cousin State War Academy Caldari State 593	Posted - 2015.02.10 08:13:31 - [60] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: can't imagine that peddling fairy tales and lies will help you get elected. Why not, it's worked for centuries in the real world. ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries" NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
admiral root Red Galaxy 2299	Posted - 2015.02.10 10:53:23 - [61] - Quote Concord Guy's Cousin wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: can't imagine that peddling fairy tales and lies will help you get elected. Why not, it's worked for centuries in the real world. Relevant. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff \| No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that. Sabriz for CSM
Tear Jar Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 309	Posted - 2015.02.10 12:03:16 - [62] - Quote Tora Bushido wrote: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote: Tora Bushido wrote: What is still unclear to me is, was it a ban or family matters ? If a ban, what happened ? If family matters .... I might not like him, but that still sucks then. Its not a ban or game related. I can't give more detail than that. Ok, so real family matters..... that sucks. He won Eve. That doesn't suck.
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 5086	Posted - 2015.02.10 17:27:50 - [63] - Quote Tear Jar wrote: Tora Bushido wrote: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote: Tora Bushido wrote: What is still unclear to me is, was it a ban or family matters ? If a ban, what happened ? If family matters .... I might not like him, but that still sucks then. Its not a ban or game related. I can't give more detail than that. Ok, so real family matters..... that sucks. He won Eve. That doesn't suck. Not really sure how you came to that conclusion, but OK. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
Daedlus Caine Retrogressive Lunch Money Syndicate 215	Posted - 2015.02.10 18:27:08 - [64] - Quote I didn't know CODE still existed. What happened to that one guy who went around demanding tribute in high-sec while handing out "mining licenses"? I can't remember the name.
La Rynx School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 184	Posted - 2015.02.10 19:12:57 - [65] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: who will not be remembered with respect A very very small minority was respecting him. Just from watching codies and their blogs made that clear. Sabriz Adoudel wrote: , fear, Sorry, WHAT?? A guy who was multiboxing hard with his alts to get No 1 on the Killboards by catastrophic Efficiency? With such low selfesteem that he had to boast with it all the time? Who believes others wouldnt notice? contempt? more like -> disgust! And now when his multibox alts get banned and his way of manipulating the killboards are over, he leaves? Yepp, he will be remembered! As the one in charge of AT2014 where CODE. got a permbann and all propaganda and other mediastuff went down the drain! Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Huge shoes to fill. I think more of pampers to fill... Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Really want to have some good fights with Marmites before that happens. There is always losec and nullsec for "real" pvp... Since you are running for CSM that might be a good idea to see more of EvE and players that play another styles of it. "Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time." Forum Main
Thius Taxus Thellere Blueprint Mania 3	Posted - 2015.02.10 21:16:07 - [66] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Loyal will go onto other things in his life (I believe he has young kids but I actually don't know him well), but the impact he has had on EVE will not soon be forgotten, either by friends or foes. Contrast this to a PVE grinder, who will not be remembered with respect, fear, contempt or loyalty by anyone other than (maybe) their close in-game friends. I know - I've been one (in other games), and led a couple of gamewide first completions. Noone would remember me in those games now except a few in my old guild. Huge shoes to fill. On the flip side, this probably means a patching of CODE-Marmite relations. Really want to have some good fights with Marmites before that happens. Oh dear, I really hope you don't believe that nonsense...or intend to bring those distorted views to the CSM (but hey, at least you won the AT!). Loyalanon caused countless players to quit the game forever, as they were not interested in playing a game where harm is inflicted, for no tangible benefit, simply to enjoy sadistic pleasure at other's misfortune. One can only hope that Loyalanon's retirement comes after carefully considering his record in the game, the pain he has inflicted on so many innocent highsec players, and such other detrimental activities that he has engaged in. Perhaps the profound feelings of guilt caused him to reassess his conduct, and shamefully flee from his hideous in game reputation. As far as being remembered...certainly, he will be remembered. Like many cold blooded criminals throughout history his name will be etched in minds for posterity, a warning of what can become of those who abandon any semblance of common decency and moral values. To be remembered for evil is no great merit - far better to be forgotten for good....how many of our criminal masterminds throughout the ages would give anything to return and repair their sullied names? Loyalanon will be remembered allright, remembered for crime, remembered for pain, remembered for taunting, tear collection, and rage inducement. Remembered for everything that one can possibly do wrong in the game. Congratulations Loyalanon, you lost Eve. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. I would say YOU are the won who lost Eve. By making a computer game so personal. No one will miss you when you leave.
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 5088	Posted - 2015.02.10 21:55:03 - [67] - Quote La Rynx wrote: A guy who was multiboxing hard with his alts to get No 1 on the Killboards by catastrophic Efficiency? With such low selfesteem that he had to boast with it all the time? out of curiosity, which number 1 was he aiming to get? I assume he was #1 on the "last 90 days" at some point, but alltime he's way down the list, except in losses. And if he was aiming for #1 in alltime losses, that's not really something to pat himself on the back about. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
Simca Develon Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 57	Posted - 2015.02.10 21:58:03 - [68] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Agondray wrote: we could wish but way to many gank for one reason or another since they started, so while code it self my shutdown the ganking wont Losing their main FC will considerably weaken their efforts...code is slowly disintegrating, and will soon be relegated to the dustbin of history. That dustbin contains a great many corps/alliances that left their mark on this game in a very significant way. More than can or will ever be said of you. Nothing lasts forever...so yeah CODE may go, but the ganking will never stop. Someone else will come along and probably do it better. Je suis le commencement de votre fin. Le diable prend soin de son proper.
Alana Charen-Teng Erik Sarn Corporation 510	Posted - 2015.02.10 22:49:25 - [69] - Quote The Code ALWAYS wins!!!! ALWAYS!!!!
Nicolai Serkanner Jebediah Kerman's Junkyard and Spaceship Parts Co. Brave Collective 277	Posted - 2015.02.10 23:43:34 - [70] - Quote Alana Charen-Teng wrote: The Code ALWAYS wins!!!! ALWAYS!!!! The Code does.
Fappy Leggings Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2015.02.11 03:10:12 - [71] - Quote AG forum alt here. Having flown against loyalanon's fleets a few times and witnessing his behavior first hand I must admit to feeling a great joy upon hearing the news. loyalanon, a highsec hero? A vulgar player with a bad attitude is no hero. A bully is more like it! All the players that quit straight outta experiences with players like that and we call this healthy for highsec. Ha, no. The game is better off without loyalanon and those like him. Killed 1000 freighters, inspired countless gankers, lead fleets of suicide ships never seen before, blah blah blah blah... no matter. A rapist murderer that donates millions to charity and volunteers at homeless shelters is still a rapist murderer. He is not vindicated of those crimes because he also does good things. People in this thread are pretending loyalanon didn't do all the bad he did. The ruining of player experiences on a grand scale, not through gameplay, not through roleplay, but through the treatment of players in communication channels like they are subhuman trash. Worse yet harassing players by tracking them down on alts when they block him. Despicable. Wasn't the whole point of Code to get players to stop grinding ISK and actually play the game? Really, who wants to play a game with someone who's treating them like a bully treats the nerd in elementary school? Who wants to play a game with someone who spams local with 100 insults when they come out to fight him? Good riddance, this is no loss. This is a cause for celebration. loyal's absence is a win for Code. Now players will actually feel more incentive to engage with you. Plus, the maturity level of highsec has doubled with the absence of 1 player. Celebrate!
Paranoid Loyd 3835	Posted - 2015.02.11 03:29:39 - [72] - Quote Was wondering when the bully card would get played. "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata Fix the Prospect!!!
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 490	Posted - 2015.02.11 04:02:01 - [73] - Quote Thius Taxus Thellere wrote: I would say YOU are the won who lost Eve. By making a computer game so personal. No one will miss you when you leave. Hardly personal...savoring sweet victory over bad people is more of an entertaining hobby for me.
Myriad Blaze Common Sense Ltd Nulli Secunda 310	Posted - 2015.02.11 05:58:12 - [74] - Quote Fappy Leggings wrote: People in this thread are pretending loyalanon didn't do all the bad he did. The ruining of player experiences on a grand scale, not through gameplay, not through roleplay, but through the treatment of players in communication channels like they are subhuman trash. Worse yet harassing players by tracking them down on alts when they block him. Despicable. You know, it's ridiculously easy to deal with someone harassing others and posting inappropriate stuff in public channels: you report them and wait for CCP to take action. I know from... lets say I have a friend who knows someone who got a warning for posting inappropriate stuff in local (tip: don't copy&paste phrases in cyrillic from a russian insult site without knowing exactly what it means ). So I know for a fact that CCP will take action, if you are too naughty. However, if you reported him (if you didn't you're the only one to blame) and CCP did nothing to adjust that behavior... it probably means that the actions in question were not violating any rules. And that again would mean that you need to adjust your expectations and your stance towards certain aspects of the game (and although it seems that internet spaceships is serious business for you, it's still a game). J'Poll: EVE doesn't hand out cookies to you. EVE kicks you down, steals your cookie and then laughs at you for bringing a cookie in the first place.
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 818	Posted - 2015.02.11 07:08:20 - [75] - Quote Daedlus Caine wrote: I didn't know CODE still existed. What happened to that one guy who went around demanding tribute in high-sec while handing out "mining licenses"? I can't remember the name. He owns Highsec now, the most thriving and rich part of space in new eden. Do you have 10 minutes to talk about James 315 and the New Halaima Code of Conduct? the Code ALWAYS wins
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 5088	Posted - 2015.02.11 08:37:20 - [76] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Daedlus Caine wrote: I didn't know CODE still existed. What happened to that one guy who went around demanding tribute in high-sec while handing out "mining licenses"? I can't remember the name. He owns Highsec now, the most thriving and rich part of space in new eden. Do you have 10 minutes to talk about James 315 and the New Halaima Code of Conduct? Hmmm... The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
ggodhsup relocation LLC. 48	Posted - 2015.02.11 11:34:23 - [77] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Thius Taxus Thellere wrote: I would say YOU are the won who lost Eve. By making a computer game so personal. No one will miss you when you leave. Hardly personal...savoring sweet victory over bad people is more of an entertaining hobby for me. savoring what sweet victory? you have done little to nothing but troll on the forums. the CODE. "higher ups" just have better vision of the future of high-sec ganking and decided that maybe moving on is in their best interest. and veers lets be realistic, anyone in CODE. is an alt, they all have plenty of mains to poison your high-sec paradise without the facade of CODE. alliance. your so naive....like a junior-high kid who wandered into a deep conversation.
La Rynx School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 186	Posted - 2015.02.11 16:48:42 - [78] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: La Rynx wrote: A guy who was multiboxing hard with his alts to get No 1 on the Killboards by catastrophic Efficiency? With such low selfesteem that he had to boast with it all the time? out of curiosity, which number 1 was he aiming to get? I assume he was #1 on the "last 90 days" at some point, but alltime he's way down the list, except in losses. And if he was aiming for #1 in alltime losses, that's not really something to pat himself on the back about. IIRC most kills, very likely 90 days. More ? nah! Lots of mining ships and capsules, absolute terrible efficience and lots and lots of them combined with "Wolf Soprano" and "Sophia Soprano" both alts of him (at his own admission), so he flew at least 3 ships at those times. Scout not counted in. Some elite player, really... I did not mark it up or look it up everytime this guy postet it. "Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time." Forum Main
La Rynx School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 186	Posted - 2015.02.11 16:58:53 - [79] - Quote ggodhsup wrote: the CODE. "higher ups" just have better vision of the future of high-sec ganking and decided that maybe moving on is in their best interest. Only leftovers, codies have been hit hard since the AT2014 Code-disaster. ggodhsup wrote: anyone in CODE. is an alt, they all have plenty of mains to poison your high-sec paradise without the facade of CODE. alliance. Yes those miraculous "supporters" that do not appear when they really are needed. Those who do not want their name and status besmirched with code-association. What does it help code? Nothing, they are worthless. No one said hisec ganking would stop. There is no promising new CEO for the clownstroupe and Jimmy is nothing more than a ghostwriter alt. Ask your CM wannabe Sabriz Abdu-something... Wants to get CM in name of code ideas, but did not manage it to help out when it was needed. Taking AT not serious proves that he/she and the rest of codies do not life up to their pro(paganda)misses. If you ask them for it, you get "i am villain, you can not force me to keep up my promisses" Or they "roleplay" stuff, often stated as excuse and every often denounced by other codies. Last time denounced? CM wannabe Sabriz Abdou-something. Well it does not get more official than that. "Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time." Forum Main
ISD Ezwal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 3827	Posted - 2015.02.11 17:25:52 - [80] - Quote I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it. The Rules: 3. Ranting is prohibited. A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counter productive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents. 4. Personal attacks are prohibited. Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated. ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Catalytic morphisis Cuddle Buddy Conglomerate Talos Coalition 105	Posted - 2015.02.12 09:00:54 - [81] - Quote Here he comes to claim something that he had nothing to do with once again Quad Boxing Trading Extroadinaire, Actual Link free solo PvP'er
admiral root Red Galaxy 2305	Posted - 2015.02.12 09:01:07 - [82] - Quote La Rynx wrote: [stuff] Miner, calm down. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff \| No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that. Sabriz for CSM
La Rynx School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 187	Posted - 2015.02.12 10:59:02 - [83] - Quote admiral root wrote: La Rynx wrote: [stuff] Miner, calm down. LOL oh, I am cool. "Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time." Forum Main
Tora Bushido EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 1936	Posted - 2015.02.12 11:11:08 - [84] - Quote La Rynx wrote: Last time denounced? CM wannabe Sabriz Abdou-something. What's a CM ? TORA FOR CSM X - A NEW HIGH-SEC YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
La Rynx School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 187	Posted - 2015.02.12 13:50:48 - [85] - Quote Tora Bushido wrote: La Rynx wrote: Last time denounced? CM wannabe Sabriz Abdou-something. What's a CM ? a CSM without S uperiority. a Candidate Master Case Managment Christian Messiah Critical Mass a Typo "Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time." Forum Main
Vector Symian 0 Fear 391	Posted - 2015.02.12 22:46:52 - [86] - Quote facepalm in desperation tries to find some evidence that Veers is a code recruitment tool Wait... maybe the A.G should make a Code. toon passionately over-highlighting codes achievements to the point of ridiculous ... oh wait maybe we can just keep letting code. linesmen talk on the forums Thankyou Code for making the entire idea of suicide ganking a mechanic that must be nerfed in eve slow clap
Capt Starfox Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team 823	Posted - 2015.02.13 09:22:17 - [87] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: It sure does when the entire focus of their play was to make highsec PvE unprofitable and force everyone into nullsec. The fact that their campaign failed spectacularly is absolutely a complete and total victory for the highsec PvE players. That Loyalanon, James 315, Capt Starfox, and others have now all "retired to spend more time with their families" (politician speak for abandoning a hopeless cause) is the biggest possible win for highsec players anywhere. Oh man, I missed this so much. To publicly declare victory because your "enemy" in a video game is taking a break for RL reasons goes to show how desperate you are; for attention I presume. For those who are unaware: James still manages his blog daily and continues to log in to hand out SRP. You can label that as "retired to spend more time with their families" all you want, but alas it's not and James is very much not AFK, nor inactive. Loyal is actually taking a break for RL reasons. This happens to all of us as RL > Eve. More power to him and I wish him well. I hope to see him soon making some miners explode somewhere. As for myself I took what I would consider a short break for RL purposes; namely college and work. This was not a surprise and everyone who needed to know knew about it. Also, one can manage and delegate alliance/coalition interests without having to traditionally log in; that should go without saying. Not to mention the fact that John is the leader of the alliance and is very much active; I'm assuming there's a super military strategy tactical reason that ensured victory as to why this wasn't brought up. Now that my RL is calming back down, I hope to see you all in-game soon. The Code always wins. *Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet*
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 5096	Posted - 2015.02.13 09:53:05 - [88] - Quote Capt Starfox wrote: Oh man, I missed this so much. To publicly declare victory because your "enemy" in a video game is taking a break for RL reasons goes to show how desperate you are; for attention I presume. ... The Code always wins. How is it any different for him to claim victory when the effect of CODE is reduced due to people leaving, than you claiming victory by default as CODE members tend to do. The Code is also losing. It has been for a while. Let's face the truth - the code was started up when they made the mining barge changes, James had a megasad and threw a massive tantrum trying to get things changed. Following that code have gone out of their way to show how easy it is to gank, which has resulted in nerfs to ganking, with likely more on the way. tl;dr - you're both as bad as each other claiming victory when there is none. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
Capt Starfox Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team 826	Posted - 2015.02.13 10:29:23 - [89] - Quote Players come and go all the time, this is nothing new and is to be expected. To use this as a measure of CODE. success or failure will likely give the wrong conclusion. Especially when CODE. keeps on winning. The New Order wasn't created because of the Barge/Exhumer buffs, it was created because of how easy it was for players to mine ice and AFK while making a passive income; but, research is hard. Where are those static ice belts again? The New Order has caused the most destruction in highsec since it was founded; I believe this includes ship destruction, but definitely includes isk destroyed, I may be wrong on the first. Most players view isk destroyed as "winning". Seeing as you're in the CFC, you should understand that concept. The only way isk destroyed doesn't really matter is when supers are on field and die (assuming you lost the isk war, but killed some supers). Please point on the Barge where the bad pirates touched you. E: Also, if you take the strategic victory, then losing the isk war might not matter either, but it's bittersweet; doesn't have the same taste as biting into some supers. *Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet*
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 5096	Posted - 2015.02.13 11:16:24 - [90] - Quote Capt Starfox wrote: Players come and go all the time, this is nothing new and is to be expected. To use this as a measure of CODE. success or failure will likely give the wrong conclusion. Especially when CODE. keeps on winning. The New Order wasn't created because of the Barge/Exhumer buffs, it was created because of how easy it was for players to mine ice and AFK while making a passive income; but, research is hard. It seems research is hard, yes. James used to whine in early 2012 about "the carebears" in his manifestos, then created code (originally as the Halaima permit) following changes announced in June 2012 about mining barge buffs as a response to those changes. Capt Starfox wrote: Where are those static ice belts again? Ice belts were shrunk as near infinite resources was a pretty bad idea. It wasn't a direct response to code, it was a response to a general feeling that ice was providing very little to the game. It still provides very little as they are still static in size and location, only smaller. Capt Starfox wrote: The New Order has caused the most destruction in highsec since it was founded; I believe this includes ship destruction, but definitely includes isk destroyed, I may be wrong on the first. Most players view isk destroyed as "winning". Seeing as you're in the CFC, you should understand that concept. The only way isk destroyed doesn't really matter is when supers are on field and die (assuming you lost the isk war, but killed some supers). Please point on the Barge where the bad pirates touched you. E: Also, if you take the strategic victory, then losing the isk war might not matter either, but it's bittersweet; doesn't have the same taste as biting into some supers. Actually, EVE is a sandbox and most agree that there is no winning criteria beyond what you set yourself. You guys have set out to rid highsec of carebear miners, and yet nearly every system you travel through still has carebear miners in it. I may be in the CFC, but I've never been one to care for isk destroyed, and neither has quite a large potion of the players I play with. Who cares about isk efficiency if you complete your set objective? Sure, we sling "killboard green" around as a way to taunt people after individual battles, but all that is, it's just talk. I do like how you jump straight to "he must be buttmad!" though in classic code member style. I personally am unaffected by code. I don't mine in highsec and anything I haul is done by third party haulers in over-collateralised contracts. When gankers have killed haulers transporting my stuff, I've actually made more isk that I would if it made it to the market. That doesn;t mean that I can't look at code objectively as see that your claim of victory are no different to Veers. Both are unfounded claims. I just hear code going on about it a hell of a lot more than Veers does. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie Brawlers Inc. 1437	Posted - 2015.02.13 11:22:07 - [91] - Quote La Rynx wrote: Sabriz Adoudel wrote: who will not be remembered with respect A very very small minority was respecting him. Just from watching codies and their blogs made that clear. Sabriz Adoudel wrote: , fear, Sorry, WHAT?? A guy who was multiboxing hard with his alts to get No 1 on the Killboards by catastrophic Efficiency? With such low selfesteem that he had to boast with it all the time? Who believes others wouldnt notice? contempt? more like -> disgust! And now when his multibox alts get banned and his way of manipulating the killboards are over, he leaves? Yepp, he will be remembered! As the one in charge of AT2014 where CODE. got a permbann and all propaganda and other mediastuff went down the drain! I'm was as annoyed about the handling of the AT as the next person, but you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. I'm not sure how you think his multiboxing manipulated the killboards. I hope you can explain that, as he rarely used multiple gankers at once. I haven't seen any indication of his characters being banned, can you please reference this? Finally the AT2014 was a major screw up, but it wasn't his screw up. I didn't approve of CODE's handling of it, but it did follow the message they want to portray. Finally, on the note of respecting Veers, go ask around in AG about him. New player resources: Uni Wiki - General Info Eve Altruist - PvP Belligerent Undesirables - High Sec Pvp
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 5096	Posted - 2015.02.13 11:55:33 - [92] - Quote BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote: Wolf Soprano is well known to be his scout. The other character is a gank alt that is primarily used to hit barges. I fail to see how using either of these artificially inflates isk efficiency when the same thing could be done with a friend. Is roaming with a fleet now cheating on killboards? It's a commonly accepted problem that killboard values are incorrect because values don't get split between participants, they get the full kill value of the ship on each character. Take a 20 man gank of a freighter worth 10b isk. That turns into 200b of kill value on a killboard as each player involved gets a 10b kill, but what should really happen is each player should get 500m each. This means that using multiple characters allows you to inflate each individual character's killboard with full kill values of kills you otherwise wouldn't be able to get at all, skewing the data considerably in your favour. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
Alana Charen-Teng Erik Sarn Corporation 528	Posted - 2015.02.13 12:04:20 - [93] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Daedlus Caine wrote: I didn't know CODE still existed. What happened to that one guy who went around demanding tribute in high-sec while handing out "mining licenses"? I can't remember the name. He owns Highsec now, the most thriving and rich part of space in new eden. Do you have 10 minutes to talk about James 315 and the New Halaima Code of Conduct? That space pastor is really mad at you!
Tora Bushido EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 1946	Posted - 2015.02.13 15:35:03 - [94] - Quote Just because my awesome friend Loyalanon is having a break, doesnt mean mining bots are allowed in Uedama! TORA FOR CSM X - A NEW HIGH-SEC YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
Capt Starfox Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team 826	Posted - 2015.02.13 15:46:52 - [95] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: It seems research is hard, yes. James used to whine in early 2012 about "the carebears" in his manifestos, then created code (originally as the Halaima permit) following changes announced in June 2012 about mining barge buffs as a response to those changes. You have no idea what you're talking about. FFS James didn't create the CODE. alliance. And, wtf is the "Halaima permit"? Is this your way of writing the New Halaima Code of Conduct? Or, is that your understanding of the overall New Order permit? Do some research. Lucas Kell wrote: ... It wasn't a direct response to code, it was a response to a general feeling that ice was providing very little to the game. ... From where I'm standing nobody from CCP gave a damn about the ice until the carebears started crying about being bumped and/or ganked at the ice belts. This led to two notable changes, the removal of static ice and buffs to Barges and Exhumers. And it helped pave the way for bumping to be considered a legal game mechanic during the Freighter ganking crusades. Granted, CCP will never officially admit that the main reason why they had to focus so much attention onto highsec static ice belts (and subsequently all static ice) was because of the New Order, but we all know it's true; unless you were living under a rock. Which could very well be the case for you. Lucas Kell wrote: Actually, EVE is a sandbox and most agree that there is no winning criteria beyond what you set yourself. You guys have set out to rid highsec of carebear miners, and yet nearly every system you travel through still has carebear miners in it. When was Eve being a sandbox open for debate here? Nice deflection I suppose. You claimed the New Order was losing because of losing membership, "CODE is reduced due to people leaving, than you claiming victory by default as CODE members tend to do. The Code is also losing." I respond with a drawn-out explanation about isk/destruction when I really should have just called you a carebear and been done with it. The New Order has been growing for over three years. It isn't going anywhere. Your theories as to why one of the most powerful highsec organizations is "losing" is hilarious; not to mention been said for years now; you 'aint the first and won't be the last. Also, the New Order isn't here to "rid highsec of carebear miners", just educate them. Yes, there is a difference. Look it up. Lucas Kell wrote: I may be in the CFC, but I've never been one to care for isk destroyed, and neither has quite a large potion of the players I play with. Who cares about isk efficiency if you complete your set objective? Sure, we sling "killboard green" around as a way to taunt people after individual battles, but all that is, it's just talk. Because nobody cares about some random member's Jew moon, that's why. Complete the object only goes so far if there's no fight, and/or the fight sucks and you lose, but somehow manage to win the objective; it's bittersweet at best. People tend to care more about the fight rather than the objective. Why do you think "objectives" tend to include something about a fight that's totally going to definitely happen? How many ops have you been on? Because it doesn't sound like very many. Lucas Kell wrote: I do like how you jump straight to "he must be buttmad!" though in classic code member style. I personally am unaffected by code. I don't mine in highsec and anything I haul is done by third party haulers in over-collateralised contracts. When gankers have killed haulers transporting my stuff, I've actually made more isk that I would if it made it to the market. That doesn;t mean that I can't look at code objectively as see that your claim of victory are no different to Veers. Both are unfounded claims. I just hear code going on about it a hell of a lot more than Veers does. But, you have been "buttmad" over the New Order for quite awhile. You act this this is your first post about the New Order. How long has it been now? Six months? And, not only the New Order, but also game mechanics you don't seem to approve of and have been actively supporting buffs to Highsec. For someone who doesn't "mine in highsec" you sure do want Highsec to be buffed into oblivion and content creators to suffer. *Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet*
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 613	Posted - 2015.02.13 16:09:11 - [96] - Quote Capt Starfox wrote: Lucas Kell wrote: I do like how you jump straight to "he must be buttmad!" though in classic code member style. I personally am unaffected by code. I don't mine in highsec and anything I haul is done by third party haulers in over-collateralised contracts. When gankers have killed haulers transporting my stuff, I've actually made more isk that I would if it made it to the market. That doesn;t mean that I can't look at code objectively as see that your claim of victory are no different to Veers. Both are unfounded claims. I just hear code going on about it a hell of a lot more than Veers does. But, you have been "buttmad" over the New Order for quite awhile. You act this this is your first post about the New Order. How long has it been now? Six months? And, not only the New Order, but also game mechanics you don't seem to approve of and have been actively supporting buffs to Highsec. For someone who doesn't "mine in highsec" you sure do want Highsec to be buffed into oblivion and content creators to suffer. He mines in highsec. Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 is a good idea.
Kaarous Aldurald Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 11759	Posted - 2015.02.13 16:15:51 - [97] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: Capt Starfox wrote: Lucas Kell wrote: I do like how you jump straight to "he must be buttmad!" though in classic code member style. I personally am unaffected by code. I don't mine in highsec and anything I haul is done by third party haulers in over-collateralised contracts. When gankers have killed haulers transporting my stuff, I've actually made more isk that I would if it made it to the market. That doesn;t mean that I can't look at code objectively as see that your claim of victory are no different to Veers. Both are unfounded claims. I just hear code going on about it a hell of a lot more than Veers does. But, you have been "buttmad" over the New Order for quite awhile. You act this this is your first post about the New Order. How long has it been now? Six months? And, not only the New Order, but also game mechanics you don't seem to approve of and have been actively supporting buffs to Highsec. For someone who doesn't "mine in highsec" you sure do want Highsec to be buffed into oblivion and content creators to suffer. He mines in highsec. And apparently used ISBoxer too. That explains a lot of his post history. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 5096	Posted - 2015.02.13 16:29:34 - [98] - Quote Capt Starfox wrote: You have no idea what you're talking about. FFS James didn't create the CODE. alliance. And, wtf is the "Halaima permit"? Is this your way of writing the New Halaima Code of Conduct? Or, is that your understanding of the overall New Order permit? Do some research. Apparently you're unaware of the origins of code. The "Halaima permit" is what James originally called it when he ran around bumping people in Halaima as a business venture. The majority of that business post is what now makes up the code. If you go onto your miner bumping site, and follow the link in paragraph 3 you'll find the original post referring to people paying for the "Halaima permit". Note the author of the thread. James 315 wrote that then later moved it to the minerbumping site, dubbing it the code. Out of curiosity, who did you think created the code? Capt Starfox wrote: From where I'm standing nobody from CCP gave a damn about the ice until the carebears started crying about being bumped and/or ganked at the ice belts. This led to two notable changes, the removal of static ice and buffs to Barges and Exhumers. And it helped pave the way for bumping to be considered a legal game mechanic during the Freighter ganking crusades. Granted, CCP will never officially admit that the main reason why they had to focus so much attention onto highsec static ice belts (and subsequently all static ice) was because of the New Order, but we all know it's true; unless you were living under a rock. Which could very well be the case for you. Actually, ice had long been an issue as there was so much available that it was nearly impossible to compete over ice. As part of the resource rebalance in Odyssey (involving ore, ice and moon materials across the whole of EVE, not just highsec) ice was reduced down to a level which mean that people would need to compete over the collection of the limited ice, rather than just mine all day. The improved cycle times at the same time to stop it from being quite as long and dull a task. It had nothing to do with any "crying". Capt Starfox wrote: When was Eve being a sandbox open for debate here? Nice deflection I suppose. You claimed the New Order was losing because of losing membership, "CODE is reduced due to people leaving, than you claiming victory by default as CODE members tend to do. The Code is also losing." I respond with a drawn-out explanation about isk/destruction when I really should have just called you a carebear and been done with it. The New Order has been growing for over three years. It isn't going anywhere. Your theories as to why one of the most powerful highsec organizations is "losing" is hilarious; not to mention been said for years now; you 'aint the first and won't be the last. Also, the New Order isn't here to "rid highsec of carebear miners", just educate them. Yes, there is a difference. Look it up. No, I claimed that code is losing because they are years in and are possibly further from their goals than ever. Highsec carebears still exist and still refuse to pay for permits. A decrease in member count from members like loyalanon is simply a decrease in the number of kills you can achieve, which doesn't help you, but doesn't prove you are losing either. If you note, my objection was to BOTH of you claiming victory when no victory exists on either side. And no, I've not seen a single code member trying to educate anyone. What you want is everyone to pay you isk to mine, and find reasons to revoke their permits once they have, as well as harvesting the "carebear tears" when you troll them in local so that the minerbumping blog has something to post. Capt Starfox wrote: Because nobody cares about some random member's Jew moon, that's why. Complete the object only goes so far if there's no fight, and/or the fight sucks and you lose, but somehow manage to win the objective; it's bittersweet at best. People tend to care more about the fight rather than the objective. Why do you think "objectives" tend to include something about a fight that's totally going to definitely happen? Well, you're wrong. The objective is often all that matters. I don't remember the last time I heard a CFC member crying about their killboard efficiency. The only part of it that matters is "are we generating more isk than we lose", which is invariably a yes. When we go on an OP, there's an objective and that's what we aim to complete. The only reason ISK comes into it is when we are chucking more value than an objective is worth at a OP. Of course people are motivated by the chance of a fight, that's the fun part of the game. Back to the actual point though since this has wandered wildly off topic, no, a lot of people don't see ISK destroyed as winning critera especially when that ISK destroyed is unarmed newbies in industrial ships. Capt Starfox wrote: But, you have been "buttmad" over the New Order for quite awhile. You act this this is your first post about the New Order. How long has it been now? Six months? And, not only the New Order, but also game mechanics you don't seem to approve of and have been actively supporting buffs to Highsec. For someone who doesn't "mine in highsec" you sure do want Highsec to be buffed into oblivion and content creators to suffer. I've never been "buttmad" over the New Order. I think you're a bunch of PvP equivalent carebears, looking for easy kills against targets that shoot back on disposable alts, but I'm in no way mad about it. I support highsec playstyles, sure, I even support ganking. What I don't support is dead easy content which allows people to farm kills from players who don't know what they are doing. I don't think CODE members are good "content creators" just because they shoot stuff either. I support content creation, I don't support what you call content. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 5096	Posted - 2015.02.13 16:38:07 - [99] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Black Pedro wrote: He mines in highsec. And apparently used ISBoxer too. That explains a lot of his post history. I've "mined" in highsec, but I very rarely do either. I've used ISBoxer in the past but it really wasn't beneficial enough to keep subbing for to use maybe once or twice a quarter. None of that is news. I trade in highsec and run multiple production POSes there too, just in case you missed it. As of this moment, none of my alts have ever had direct contact (I've seen code members talking bad smack in local) with anyone from CODE. Honestly though if you can't think up reasonable responses and just want to go with "he must be buttmad", then go right ahead. It truly affects me to the sum of zero. I'll still continue to support players who oppose your playstyle simply because you want easy risk-free ways to gank players who don't know any better, and that's FAR worse than anything the average "carebear" has ever asked for. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
Capt Starfox Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team 827	Posted - 2015.02.13 17:21:44 - [100] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: Apparently you're unaware of the origins of code. The "Halaima permit" is what James originally called it when he ran around bumping people in Halaima as a business venture. The majority of that business post is what now makes up the code. If you go onto your miner bumping site, and follow the link in paragraph 3 you'll find the original post referring to people paying for the "Halaima permit". Note the author of the thread. James 315 wrote that then later moved it to the minerbumping site, dubbing it the code. Out of curiosity, who did you think created the code? I realized you weren't referring to CODE. and edited my post accordingly, that was definitely my bad, but I assure you I know all about the New Halaima Code of Conduct, the blog and permit. Lucas Kell wrote: Actually, ice had long been an issue as there was so much available that it was nearly impossible to compete over ice. As part of the resource rebalance in Odyssey (involving ore, ice and moon materials across the whole of EVE, not just highsec) ice was reduced down to a level which mean that people would need to compete over the collection of the limited ice, rather than just mine all day. The improved cycle times at the same time to stop it from being quite as long and dull a task. It had nothing to do with any "crying". I'm glad you missed my point. And odyssey happened after what? And what was the big story surrounding Highsec ice again? Lucas Kell wrote: No, I claimed that code is losing because they are years in and are possibly further from their goals than ever. Highsec carebears still exist and still refuse to pay for permits. A decrease in member count from members like loyalanon is simply a decrease in the number of kills you can achieve, which doesn't help you, but doesn't prove you are losing either. If you note, my objection was to BOTH of you claiming victory when no victory exists on either side. And no, I've not seen a single code member trying to educate anyone. What you want is everyone to pay you isk to mine, and find reasons to revoke their permits once they have, as well as harvesting the "carebear tears" when you troll them in local so that the minerbumping blog has something to post. "effect of CODE is reduced due to people leaving, than you claiming victory by default as CODE members tend to do. The Code is also losing." That statement implies that you believe the New Order is losing, or going to lose because of membership. This idea, or theory, or whatever you want to call seems to stem from the fact that loyal is taking a break; as you pointed out. Have you heard of Ziaeon before? It's okay, you can look him up. Then you haven't been looking very hard. Miners lose their permits if they AFK. Holding a permit does not exempt one from the Code. Also, permit holders get AFK checked, whereas non-permit holders just get exploded. I suppose my "Do some research." applies here now. Lucas Kell wrote: Well, you're wrong. The objective is often all that matters. I don't remember the last time I heard a CFC member crying about their killboard efficiency. The only part of it that matters is "are we generating more isk than we lose", which is invariably a yes. When we go on an OP, there's an objective and that's what we aim to complete. The only reason ISK comes into it is when we are chucking more value than an objective is worth at a OP. Of course people are motivated by the chance of a fight, that's the fun part of the game. Back to the actual point though since this has wandered wildly off topic, no, a lot of people don't see ISK destroyed as winning critera especially when that ISK destroyed is unarmed newbies in industrial ships. I hate to be the one that has to tell you this, most grunts don't care about the objective. Most grunts care about the fights. More grunts will show up to said objective if there's going to be a fight. My point isn't KB efficiency, however, on this subject that's starting to spiral off my point is simply more players care more about the fights rather than whatever random structure they're defending, or attacking; cause we all know how fun structure grinding can be. 6VDT wasn't about the station, it was about the fight. Same can be said about HED; hell, even the week long hell camp of 0-W778 was more about the impending breakout than it was about the actual station. The station did play a major part objectively speaking, obviously, but more players were interested in the breakout, ie the fight, than camping a station so some ships could be locked away. It just so happens that 0-W778 worked out beautifully for both the fight and the objective during that time. And before you say, "butbut you rbought up isk/death stufs", I did, but I used that as a reference to explain why the New Order is winning where you were saying the New Order was losing. Lucas Kell wrote: I've never been "buttmad" over the New Order. I think you're a bunch of PvP equivalent carebears, looking for easy kills against targets that shoot back on disposable alts, but I'm in no way mad about it. I support highsec playstyles, sure, I even support ganking. What I don't support is dead easy content which allows people to farm kills from players who don't know what they are doing. I don't think CODE members are good "content creators" just because they shoot stuff either. I support content creation, I don't support what you call content. Now you're just trolling. *Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet*
ggodhsup relocation LLC. 54	Posted - 2015.02.13 23:16:20 - [101] - Quote this may get removed, but ive seen a inherent lack of veers posts. the CODE. philosophy will live on and all will remain the same. or it will change dramatically. i live in low-sec, so i dont care either way. i do know that they were a necessary evil, and that botting is a real problem. i hope if ccp decides to nerf high-sec ganking, they implement something to counteract the botting problem.
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 5100	Posted - 2015.02.14 01:46:34 - [102] - Quote Capt Starfox wrote: I'm glad you missed my point. And odyssey happened after what? And what was the big story surrounding Highsec ice again? Since Odyssey was a full expansion covering a complete resource overhaul across the whole of eve (not just highsec), and a mass of other features, I'm not sure what specific conversation you are referring to. What I do know is that the code existing had nothing to do with the ice problems being addressed since they were a known issue long before the code existed. Capt Starfox wrote: "effect of CODE is reduced due to people leaving, than you claiming victory by default as CODE members tend to do. The Code is also losing." That statement implies that you believe the New Order is losing, or going to lose because of membership. This idea, or theory, or whatever you want to call seems to stem from the fact that loyal is taking a break; as you pointed out. Have you heard of Ziaeon before? It's okay, you can look him up. Then you haven't been looking very hard. Miners lose their permits if they AFK. Holding a permit does not exempt one from the Code. Also, permit holders get AFK checked, whereas non-permit holders just get exploded. I suppose my "Do some research." applies here now. If you take the full quote: "How is it any different for him to claim victory when the effect of CODE is reduced due to people leaving, than you claiming victory by default as CODE members tend to do", it's asking specifically that. What's the difference. He is stating he is winning because he think players leaving code indicates they are losing due to the reduction in activity, while you are claiming the code is always winning, just because. How is your claim any more valid than his? The answer is that it's not. You're both batshit crazy fighting a losing battle. And you're not even really fighting each other. I'm well aware of how code permits works. As a previous code member has once said, if the target can be ganked, then they were obviously not following the code as a code compliant player can't be ganked. This is the reason that permits are irrelevant. If you simply make yourself near impossible to gank you don't need a permit. And still, that doesn't mean you are teaching players. For the most part, ganking someone doesn't implicitly teach them anything, and most players aren't interested in reading multiple pages of junk on what is effectively an RP cult website. If you were really interested in teaching miners, you're going about it the wrong way. I've taught a considerable number of miners how to more effectively avoid being ganked, without having to fly around blowing people up. Capt Starfox wrote: I hate to be the one that has to tell you this, most grunts don't care about the objective. Most grunts care about the fights. More grunts will show up to said objective if there's going to be a fight. My point isn't KB efficiency, however, on this subject that's starting to spiral off my point is simply more players care more about the fights rather than whatever random structure they're defending, or attacking; cause we all know how fun structure grinding can be. Indeed they are. Like I said, that's the fun part of the game. Capt Starfox wrote: And before you say, "butbut you rbought up isk/death stufs", I did, but I used that as a reference to explain why the New Order is winning where you were saying the New Order was losing. You did use that to explain that, yes, but like I said before ISK destroyed doesn't mean you are winning just because you say that's what it means. Most players consider the context of kills to be equally as important as the value. Capt Starfox wrote: Now you're just trolling. No, I'm not. I legitimately believe that ganking is the combat equivalent of carebearing. You don't want to leave highsec because other space is too hard, you don't risk significant assets and avoid as much risk as you possibly can, you mainly play on alts so that any negative consequences don't affect your mains, and you complain to no end when you playstyle is likely to be nerfed or if opposing playstyles are to be buffed. The only difference between you and a carebear miner is that you fire your turrets at mining barges while they fire theirs at rocks. I certainly don't believe that ganking is good content creation, since it only really provides any content for the player doing the shooting. The player being shot it just adds an extra step to get back to the gameplay they want. The targets you pick are almost always players who have little to no idea of what they are doing and are generally pushed into freaking out in local so there's something to go on the blog. Good content creates are people like BNI, RvB, or creators of NPSI groups for example. They create ways for players to engage in bi-directional interation. They don't just farm easy kills in a relatively safe environment and claim that's content. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
Tyyler DURden Mordechai and Sons Distribution Co. 68	Posted - 2015.02.14 02:35:13 - [103] - Quote ggodhsup wrote: this may get removed, but ive seen a inherent lack of veers posts. the CODE. philosophy will live on and all will remain the same. or it will change dramatically. i live in low-sec, so i dont care either way. i do know that they were a necessary evil, and that botting is a real problem. i hope if ccp decides to nerf high-sec ganking, they implement something to counteract the botting problem. We've been over this one again and again, besides the one well documented smartbombing attack on a coulple of proc fleets, code doesnt kill bots on any meaningful level. They would rather kill ventures and autopiloting pods and shuttles. Because, like I have stated before, nothing teaches them bots a lesson like a few capsule and shuttle KMs. Tyyler DURden says "use soap"
admiral root Red Galaxy 2340	Posted - 2015.02.14 05:18:33 - [104] - Quote Tyyler DURden wrote: We've been over this one again and again, besides the one well documented smartbombing attack on a coulple of proc fleets, code doesnt kill bots on any meaningful level. They would rather kill ventures and autopiloting pods and shuttles. Because, like I have stated before, nothing teaches them bots a lesson like a few capsule and shuttle KMs. Translation: I don't like you guys so I'm going to cherry pick part of your motivation and then attempt to shoot it down without proof, thus clearly winning the arguement. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff \| No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that. Sabriz for CSM
Capt Starfox Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team 834	Posted - 2015.02.14 05:47:25 - [105] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: Since Odyssey was a full expansion covering a complete resource overhaul across the whole of eve (not just highsec), and a mass of other features, I'm not sure what specific conversation you are referring to. What I do know is that the code existing had nothing to do with the ice problems being addressed since they were a known issue long before the code existed. Yes, Odyssey was a micro-expansion. I can't comment on any of the other resources that were "overhauled", but to say that the New Order had absolutely nothing to do with the changes that occurred to static ice just goes to show you don't really know what you're talking about, closed minded and are simply mad and upset over how powerful the New Order has become. If you put forth the effort surrounding the time frame around the release of Odyssey, you would find out that for over a year New Order had been working with those belts. This led to hundreds if not thousands of petitions. As a result CCP had to understand all the information pertaining to what was going on. Furthermore, either as a direct or indirect result it's not a far stretch to conclude that the New Order had something to do with the changes that effected ice; even if the New Order simply helped direct attention to a long needed overhaul to certain resources by causing player content at those specific sites. Lucas Kell wrote: If you take the full quote: "How is it any different for him to claim victory when the effect of CODE is reduced due to people leaving, than you claiming victory by default as CODE members tend to do", it's asking specifically that. What's the difference. He is stating he is winning because he think players leaving code indicates they are losing due to the reduction in activity, while you are claiming the code is always winning, just because. How is your claim any more valid than his? The answer is that it's not. You're both batshit crazy fighting a losing battle. And you're not even really fighting each other. I'm well aware of how code permits works. As a previous code member has once said, if the target can be ganked, then they were obviously not following the code as a code compliant player can't be ganked. This is the reason that permits are irrelevant. If you simply make yourself near impossible to gank you don't need a permit. And still, that doesn't mean you are teaching players. For the most part, ganking someone doesn't implicitly teach them anything, and most players aren't interested in reading multiple pages of junk on what is effectively an RP cult website. If you were really interested in teaching miners, you're going about it the wrong way. I've taught a considerable number of miners how to more effectively avoid being ganked, without having to fly around blowing people up. I guess you can spin it anyway you want to now. The fact of the matter is you are, or were under the impression that because the New Order was losing one person the New Order was going to failcascade. You're not the only carebear to have thought this, so there is that to feel good about. My claim is more valid because we're talking about it. There is plenty of information on the internet that is helpful. I fear for the miners you helped. You're a carebear so I'm sure your "advice" had something to do with down-talking the New Order and that's about it. Carebears tend to remember more the loss of the ship rather than the friendly hail. You can sit there and curse about how we're not helping anyone, but you in this fact couldn't be more wrong. Lucas Kell wrote: You did use that to explain that, yes, but like I said before ISK destroyed doesn't mean you are winning just because you say that's what it means. Most players consider the context of kills to be equally as important as the value. We agree to disagree. Lucas Kell wrote: No, I'm not. I legitimately believe that ganking is the combat equivalent of carebearing. You don't want to leave highsec because other space is too hard, you don't risk significant assets and avoid as much risk as you possibly can, you mainly play on alts so that any negative consequences don't affect your mains, and you complain to no end when you playstyle is likely to be nerfed or if opposing playstyles are to be buffed. The only difference between you and a carebear miner is that you fire your turrets at mining barges while they fire theirs at rocks. Who doesn't leave Highsec, because I know many agents who leave Highsec all the time. Actually most agents play their character as their main. We take risks each time we undock. Everybody complains, have you seen some of the other anti-code threads? Of course you have, you're kind of in one and you're complaining. How about that? Lucas Kell wrote: I certainly don't believe that ganking is good content creation, since it only really provides any content for the player doing the shooting. The player being shot it just adds an extra step to get back to the gameplay they want. The targets you pick are almost always players who have little to no idea of what they are doing and are generally pushed into freaking out in local so there's something to go on the blog. Good content creates are people like BNI, RvB, or creators of NPSI groups for example. They create ways for players to engage in bi-directional interation. They don't just farm easy kills in a relatively safe environment and claim that's content. You are definitely entitled to your opinion. If I might add, both players gain content. The "ganker/s" get to shoot a target and the "target" gets to buy a new ship. This causes a chain reaction of events that circles back to miner; we're just hoping this time around the ore is New Order compliant ore. Although I do agree on NPSI, those are fun. *Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet*
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 5100	Posted - 2015.02.14 09:49:51 - [106] - Quote Capt Starfox wrote: Yes, Odyssey was a micro-expansion. I can't comment on any of the other resources that were "overhauled", but to say that the New Order had absolutely nothing to do with the changes that occurred to static ice just goes to show you don't really know what you're talking about, closed minded and are simply mad and upset over how powerful the New Order has become. If you put forth the effort surrounding the time frame around the release of Odyssey, you would find out that for over a year New Order had been working with those belts. This led to hundreds if not thousands of petitions. As a result CCP had to understand all the information pertaining to what was going on. Furthermore, either as a direct or indirect result it's not a far stretch to conclude that the New Order had something to do with the changes that effected ice; even if the New Order simply helped direct attention to a long needed overhaul to certain resources by causing player content at those specific sites. Lol, sorry mate but that's a ludicrous claim and you're going to need more proof than your word. CCP did a massive overhaul on a system that had been terrible since LONG before the code even existed. I don't believe for a second that the code had anything to do with their motivations to change it, and if you can't provide categoric evidence of that, I'm going to call complete bullshit on that one. The resource overhaul was a long overdue change to the entire game extending far beyond high sec ice belts. Capt Starfox wrote: I guess you can spin it anyway you want to now. The fact of the matter is you are, or were under the impression that because the New Order was losing one person the New Order was going to failcascade. You're not the only carebear to have thought this, so there is that to feel good about. My claim is more valid because we're talking about it. There is plenty of information on the internet that is helpful. I fear for the miners you helped. You're a carebear so I'm sure your "advice" had something to do with down-talking the New Order and that's about it. Carebears tend to remember more the loss of the ship rather than the friendly hail. You can sit there and curse about how we're not helping anyone, but you in this fact couldn't be more wrong. No, that's something you've wrong ly assumed me to be saying, and it's got you all defensive. And no, you're claim is ALSO bullshit. The code does not in fact always win, even if you try to claim that everything is a victory condition for yourself. Also I'm not in fact a carebear, so swing and a miss there too buddy. Capt Starfox wrote: Who doesn't leave Highsec, because I know many agents who leave Highsec all the time. Actually most agents play their character as their main. We take risks each time we undock. Everybody complains, have you seen some of the other anti-code threads? Of course you have, you're kind of in one and you're complaining. How about that? On alts perhaps they do, who knows. And no, this came up before. Most gankers use alts. Someone even did a poll on it on here and it worked out like 75% were alts or something. Capt Starfox wrote: You are definitely entitled to your opinion. If I might add, both players gain content. The "ganker/s" get to shoot a target and the "target" gets to buy a new ship. This causes a chain reaction of events that circles back to miner; we're just hoping this time around the ore is New Order compliant ore. Although I do agree on NPSI, those are fun. Buying a new ship is not very good content. And if you notice I stated that it's not good content creation. Pretty much everything in game is some form of content creation, some of it is just rubbish and not very beneficial to the game as a whole, while other parts are great. What people like you do is purposely go out of your way to upset newer players so you can feel some sort of superiority without having to put any effort into your playstyle. Even this conversation, practically every sentence you've put has been condescending in tone, which is quite amusing since if that's your main (as you supposedly all use your mains) then you're not even a 4 year old player yet you have to nerve to lecture a 10 year vet on the history of EVE. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
Chocolate Mooses The Conference Elite CODE. 3	Posted - 2015.02.14 10:49:55 - [107] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: I've used ISBoxer in the past but it really wasn't beneficial enough to keep subbing for to use maybe once or twice a quarter Right. "Twice in a quarter" = 6 months out of the year. "Once in a quarter" = 3 months of of the year. So, you were mining highsec around half of the year with your bot-aspirant army. This really helps explain your random rage about all things CODE.
Chocolate Mooses The Conference Elite CODE. 3	Posted - 2015.02.14 10:52:36 - [108] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: On alts perhaps they do, who knows. And no, this came up before. Most gankers use alts. Someone even did a poll on it on here and it worked out like 75% were alts or something. [citation needed] please provide the results of this "someone" who did some "poll on it here" and show how it worked out to "like 75% alts or something"
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 5103	Posted - 2015.02.14 10:57:06 - [109] - Quote Chocolate Mooses wrote: Lucas Kell wrote: I've used ISBoxer in the past but it really wasn't beneficial enough to keep subbing for to use maybe once or twice a quarter Right. "Twice in a quarter" = 6 months out of the year. "Once in a quarter" = 3 months of of the year. So, you were mining highsec around half of the year with your bot-aspirant army. This really helps explain your random rage about all things CODE. Apparently you don't understand English. Once a quarter would be once (one play session) in 3 months. Twice a quarter would be twice (two play sessions) in 3 months. For a 90 day subscription I would use it for maybe 8-12 hours total. I figured that wasn't really worth it. I mainly used it to just to see what all of the fuss was about, but in the end it was far more effective for me to just focus more heavily on trading and dump a few EVE accounts, using multi character training instead, though the ability for it to quick swap windows with little thumbnails was pretty cool, and I sometimes miss that If I've got all of my traders logged on. Chocolate Mooses wrote: Lucas Kell wrote: On alts perhaps they do, who knows. And no, this came up before. Most gankers use alts. Someone even did a poll on it on here and it worked out like 75% were alts or something. [citation needed] please provide the results of this "someone" who did some "poll on it here" and show how it worked out to "like 75% alts or something" I had a quick look and couldn't find it so I'm not wasting that much time on it, but it was right here on this forum a few months ago we discussed it, and it was some old thread from Ripard Teg I believe. But come on, you can't honestly be trying to suggest that vast swathes of people are using their mains for ganking. Most people who gank simply make gank alts, since it means you don't have to overtrain them, you don't need to mess around with killrights, standings and sec status and so they don't ruin the rep of your mains. I'm sure there are many people who do use their mains which is why I assume you're trying to get on your high horse, but those aren't the majority. Honestly I'm not even going to bother arguing this point because no matter what get said, you're just going to argue until the end of time because that's what you people do. You'll demand that I need to provide evidence, then even if I do you'll claim it's flawed in some way, and in the meantime you'll provide absolutely none for your far more outrageous claims. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
Chocolate Mooses The Conference Elite CODE. 3	Posted - 2015.02.14 11:07:10 - [110] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: Apparently you don't understand English. And boom, unable to respond without personal insults. Should have know better. Blocked and done.
Chocolate Mooses The Conference Elite CODE. 3	Posted - 2015.02.14 11:08:05 - [111] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: I had a quick look and couldn't find it so I'm not wasting that much time on it, but it was right here on this forum a few months ago we discussed it, and it was some old thread from Ripard Teg I believe. Right. So it never happened. Got it. Take care. Won't bother you again.
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 5103	Posted - 2015.02.14 11:15:14 - [112] - Quote Chocolate Mooses wrote: Lucas Kell wrote: Apparently you don't understand English. And boom, unable to respond without personal insults. Should have know better. Blocked and done. That's not an insult, that's an observation. Once or twice a quarter is a pretty simple concept to understand yet you took that to mean "For one or two whole quarters within a year" which is something completely different, ergo you don'd understand English. Maybe you're not natively an English speaker, I don't know, but it's not an insult. I don't understand Norwegian for example. Chocolate Mooses wrote: Lucas Kell wrote: I had a quick look and couldn't find it so I'm not wasting that much time on it, but it was right here on this forum a few months ago we discussed it, and it was some old thread from Ripard Teg I believe. Right. So it never happened. Got it. Take care. Won't bother you again. Found it. I do note how you skim out the parts you don't want to answer though. Now I'd like to see your evidence that most gankers in fact use their mains. Whenever you are ready. EDIT: Oh, and by all means block me and never respond to anything I ever say. Thanks. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
Mag's the united 19030	Posted - 2015.02.14 11:49:23 - [113] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: Found it I just did a quick run down of every post and ended up with the following: 6 I class as unknown, simply because they do not state it either way. 10 were stated as mains. 14 were stated as alts (or low SP). Many I class as alts I did so due to low SP, not because they were stated as so. I'd hardly call that 75% alts. Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 5103	Posted - 2015.02.14 14:49:50 - [114] - Quote Mag's wrote: Lucas Kell wrote: Found it I just did a quick run down of every post and ended up with the following: 6 I class as unknown, simply because they do not state it either way. 10 were stated as mains. 14 were stated as alts (or low SP). Many I class as alts I did so due to low SP, not because they were stated as so. I'd hardly call that 75% alts. Indeed, well that was just a rough from memory number from when it was broken down last time. Simply put though, I claim that the majority of gankers use alts to do so, I'd be quite comfortable betting on that to be true. Of course people are so argumentative on these forums that no matter what you say people will still pick it apart, argue against it and claim you need reams of evidence to hold an opinion, while they require none to dispute it. So I'll drop my original point here and be done with it. In my opinion, Veers is no more crazy with his empty claims of victory than code are for their empty claims that they always win. /thread The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
Vector Symian 0 Fear 411	Posted - 2015.02.14 22:21:15 - [115] - Quote Well I tried to read all that but all I got was HALALALALALAH! and Grr code Grr A.G Grr Marmite Grr high sec miners It is nice you see you all yet again managed to keep your conversations constructive why not do this -create a red vs blue scenario -recognise their is a line to putting crap on people normally this is when it is no longer educational in it application - try a couple of different things in eve to see if that is what you would like to do before locking your self in
Capt Starfox Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team 834	Posted - 2015.02.15 03:28:10 - [116] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: Lol, sorry mate but that's a ludicrous claim and you're going to need more proof than your word. CCP did a massive overhaul on a system that had been terrible since LONG before the code even existed. I don't believe for a second that the code had anything to do with their motivations to change it, and if you can't provide categoric evidence of that, I'm going to call complete bullshit on that one. The resource overhaul was a long overdue change to the entire game extending far beyond high sec ice belts. Believe what you want; for a year carebears cried about what was happening to them in their precious ice belts; petitions, forums both Eve-O and other locations. If, say, the New Order started a few months before the change to static ice, I'd agree with you. Since it was a year, I think you just can't handle the likelihood that the New Order helped bring in the change to static ice. Lucas Kell wrote: No, that's something you've wrong ly assumed me to be saying, and it's got you all defensive. And no, you're claim is ALSO bullshit. The code does not in fact always win, even if you try to claim that everything is a victory condition for yourself. Also I'm not in fact a carebear, so swing and a miss there too buddy. I don't feel all defensive. I can definitely be a ** at times, but to me this is just internet discussion about a video game space ship pixels. Bro, the Code, CODE. and New Order win all the time. You can see it on the KMs, the rebel intel channels, the miners fitting tanks and the very simple fact that here we are talking about the New Order 3 years later. Just stop lying to yourself and accept that you have been defeated by the New Order in Highsec. Lucas Kell wrote: On alts perhaps they do, who knows. And no, this came up before. Most gankers use alts. Someone even did a poll on it on here and it worked out like 75% were alts or something. I think you missed the point where I wrote that these characters are being played as if they were mains. This isn't an issue of one group of players using alts when everybody in the game uses alts. To ridicule one group of players for having and/or using alts in a game that practically force feeds you the need to use alts is sad. Even to sit there and act like you just discovered something grand... it's like you just figured out the sky is blue. Lucas Kell wrote: Buying a new ship is not very good content. And if you notice I stated that it's not good content creation. Pretty much everything in game is some form of content creation, some of it is just rubbish and not very beneficial to the game as a whole, while other parts are great. What people like you do is purposely go out of your way to upset newer players so you can feel some sort of superiority without having to put any effort into your playstyle. Even this conversation, practically every sentence you've put has been condescending in tone, which is quite amusing since if that's your main (as you supposedly all use your mains) then you're not even a 4 year old player yet you have to nerve to lecture a 10 year vet on the history of EVE. Whether it's good content, or not good content is your opinion. Seeing as you're a carebear who "used" to mine in Highsec and is now a new found nullbear I can understand why you would view this content as "not very good". Regardless, I think it's great content. I believe that all carebears, new and old, should try it at least once and judge for themselves; and, by "try it once" I mean shoot someone else in the face (spaceship). Whether you agree with it or not the loss of a ship and the purchase of a new one is a form of content and game-play and creates content and game-play for other players not directly affected by a gank itself. This includes but not limited to traders, haulers, other miners. We do not "go out of your way" to kill new players. If a "new" player happens to find themselves on the wrong end of our blasters, too bad. They were either AFK, AP, had no tank to speak of, and/or weren't paying attention to what was going on around them. But, they learned really fast how this game works and the "new" players that puts forth the tiny bit of effort are the players that will stick around and become good players. Your welcome. I'm sorry if my forum voice has hurt you. You're an entitled carebear who thinks he knows what he's talking about when he doesn't. Also, congrats on your 10 year old vet character, unfortunately it does more bad for you than good as reaching into the "im supeiror than you so respek me!" hat makes you look desperate and incompetent. Congratulations. Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet**
Capt Starfox Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team 834	Posted - 2015.02.15 03:35:24 - [117] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: Found it. I do note how you skim out the parts you don't want to answer though. Now I'd like to see your evidence that most gankers in fact use their mains. Whenever you are ready. Really? This is your proof about what gankers use or don't use and whether or not it's a main or an alt? A forum thread about SP? If anything I'd call it a piece of information that could support your argument, but not wholehearted, damning proof. And here I thought this was going to include something with detailed information and spreadsheets and schedules. *Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet*
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 500	Posted - 2015.02.15 05:15:00 - [118] - Quote Capt Starfox wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: It sure does when the entire focus of their play was to make highsec PvE unprofitable and force everyone into nullsec. The fact that their campaign failed spectacularly is absolutely a complete and total victory for the highsec PvE players. That Loyalanon, James 315, Capt Starfox, and others have now all "retired to spend more time with their families" (politician speak for abandoning a hopeless cause) is the biggest possible win for highsec players anywhere. Oh man, I missed this so much. To publicly declare victory because your "enemy" in a video game is taking a break for RL reasons goes to show how desperate you are; for attention I presume. For those who are unaware: James still manages his blog daily and continues to log in to hand out SRP. You can label that as "retired to spend more time with their families" all you want, but alas it's not and James is very much not AFK, nor inactive. Loyal is actually taking a break for RL reasons. This happens to all of us as RL > Eve. More power to him and I wish him well. I hope to see him soon making some miners explode somewhere. As for myself I took what I would consider a short break for RL purposes; namely college and work. This was not a surprise and everyone who needed to know knew about it. Also, one can manage and delegate alliance/coalition interests without having to traditionally log in; that should go without saying. Not to mention the fact that John is the leader of the alliance and is very much active; I'm assuming there's a super military strategy tactical reason that ensured victory as to why this wasn't brought up. Now that my RL is calming back down, I hope to see you all in-game soon. The Code always wins. These RL vacations should have been factored in when declaring a campaign to rid highsec of PvE play. In fact, the repeated record of failure is no doubt a major cause of these vacations, as constantly losing to elite highsec players gets pretty painful. When will you finally admit that code has failed miserably in stamping out highsec PvE, and has an especially poor record when facing incursion runners? Diplomat is not a license to lie and distort...you need to face the truth foxxie...and even your cute sunglasses cannot shield you from that one.
Vector Symian 0 Fear 426	Posted - 2015.02.15 05:18:55 - [119] - Quote It should be noted that we think veers is a code super weapon !!
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 500	Posted - 2015.02.15 05:20:40 - [120] - Quote Vector Symian wrote: It should be noted that we think veers is a code super weapon !! Presumably the anger many code members have expressed towards me, the endless threats of in game harm, and the blocking by a good chunk of their alliance, should in fact belie the idea that i am james 315, loyalanon, or a code alt. But don't let me distract you from your conspiracy theories.
Vector Symian 0 Fear 427	Posted - 2015.02.15 05:39:27 - [121] - Quote "the code super weopen just spoke to me..." is not sure what to do continues folding tin hats until the silence gets awkward is about to cry "MAKE HIM STAWP"
Capt Starfox Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team 834	Posted - 2015.02.15 05:59:16 - [122] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: These RL vacations should have been factored in when declaring a campaign to rid highsec of PvE play. In fact, the repeated record of failure is no doubt a major cause of these vacations, as constantly losing to elite highsec players gets pretty painful. When will you finally admit that code has failed miserably in stamping out highsec PvE, and has an especially poor record when facing incursion runners? Diplomat is not a license to lie and distort...you need to face the truth foxxie...and even your cute sunglasses cannot shield you from that one. Veers! I missed you! I don't lie and distort. Common Veers, I'm the bringer of truth and good fortune! The Code can't fail miserably with how much we've helped Highsec! Just look at all the wonderful things that have happened because of the New Order. Highsec PvE players fitting tanks (I dare say even theorycrafting), watching local, paying attention to intel channels, some even going on the offensive (Sarah Flynt and her disco battleship was amazing), Highsec PvE players are ~playing Eve~ and the New Order is to thank! The more intelligent players are buying permits and helping our agents, of course! Nevertheless, even the players who want to risk ship bumping and/or loss by not purchasing a permit, most are in fact playing more of Eve than ever before because of the New Order. HTH *Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet*
admiral root Red Galaxy 2346	Posted - 2015.02.15 11:13:05 - [123] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Vector Symian wrote: It should be noted that we think veers is a code super weapon !! Presumably the anger many code members have expressed towards me, the endless threats of in game harm, and the blocking by a good chunk of their alliance, should in fact belie the idea that i am james 315, loyalanon, or a code alt. But don't let me distract you from your conspiracy theories. Agent Veers, none of us hate you. None of us care enough for that. To the mentally ill amongst the whinebear community, I'll just reiterate this part of the above post: Veers Belvar wrote: endless threats of in game harm This is doing it right, especially if you occasionally make good on them. Making RL threats means you need help. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff \| No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that. Sabriz for CSM
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 502	Posted - 2015.02.15 14:06:34 - [124] - Quote Capt Starfox wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: These RL vacations should have been factored in when declaring a campaign to rid highsec of PvE play. In fact, the repeated record of failure is no doubt a major cause of these vacations, as constantly losing to elite highsec players gets pretty painful. When will you finally admit that code has failed miserably in stamping out highsec PvE, and has an especially poor record when facing incursion runners? Diplomat is not a license to lie and distort...you need to face the truth foxxie...and even your cute sunglasses cannot shield you from that one. Veers! I missed you! I don't lie and distort. Common Veers, I'm the bringer of truth and good fortune! The Code can't fail miserably with how much we've helped Highsec! Just look at all the wonderful things that have happened because of the New Order. Highsec PvE players fitting tanks (I dare say even theorycrafting), watching local, paying attention to intel channels, some even going on the offensive (Sarah Flynt and her disco battleship was amazing), Highsec PvE players are ~playing Eve~ and the New Order is to thank! The more intelligent players are buying permits and helping our agents, of course! Nevertheless, even the players who want to risk ship bumping and/or loss by not purchasing a permit, most are in fact playing more of Eve than ever before because of the New Order. HTH Well of course you would miss the guy who singlehandedly defeated the entire code alliance.....I mean this defeat even eclipses your alliance tournament "victory" and undefeated record. As a diplo you should be negotiating peaceful outcomes with your opponents, not perpetuating further violence and destruction. Highsec PvE is much the same as ever....the response to code has been minimal.....vast majority of mining is still afk, and vast majority of mission/incursion runners consider code a joke and phantom threat. Code reminds me of the world communist organizations...declare x to be inevitable and true...and then when x fails to occur create your own make believe universe where x did in fact occur. Well played, foxxie....love those sunglasses, and do keep up the elite PvP in C1 wormholes with your corp.
John E Normus New Order Logistics CODE. 498	Posted - 2015.02.16 04:47:23 - [125] - Quote Capt Starfox wrote: Lucas Kell wrote: Found it. I do note how you skim out the parts you don't want to answer though. Now I'd like to see your evidence that most gankers in fact use their mains. Whenever you are ready. Really? This is your proof about what gankers use or don't use and whether or not it's a main or an alt? A forum thread about SP? If anything I'd call it a piece of information that could support your argument, but not wholehearted, damning proof. And here I thought this was going to include something with detailed information and spreadsheets and schedules. Dear Capt "Foxxie" Starfox, Sometimes I miss SMA. If I have one regret in eve online (a spaceship game) it's that I didn't get the cupcake icon on the alliance TS during that fund drive. ook ook, John ps don't be mad that I "ook ook'd" Between Ignorance and Wisdom
IbanezLaney The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing 1372	Posted - 2015.02.16 05:11:30 - [126] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Ha! I'm an elite incursion and L4 runner.... + You are a damn good comedian it seems. https://soundcloud.com/ibanezlaney
admiral root Red Galaxy 2353	Posted - 2015.02.16 10:02:20 - [127] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: As a diplo you should be negotiating peaceful outcomes with your opponents, not perpetuating further violence and destruction. You've obviously never heard the term "aggressive negotiation". John E Normus wrote: ook ook I call for a shareholders meeting to vote on removing John from the executor position. I have traumatic memories of being in SMA. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff \| No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that. Sabriz for CSM
Tora Bushido EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 1968	Posted - 2015.02.16 11:11:06 - [128] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: As a diplo you should be negotiating peaceful outcomes with your opponents, not perpetuating further violence and destruction. Delete the weak, adapt or die ! TORA FOR CSM X - A NEW HIGH-SEC YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - ADAPT OR DIE - DELETE THE WEAK
Lugia3 The Southern Gentleman's Social Club Operation Pointy Stick 1488	Posted - 2015.02.16 11:13:12 - [129] - Quote What if I told you Feyd and Cane have never had anything to do with code? "CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik Remove Sov!
admiral root Red Galaxy 2358	Posted - 2015.02.16 14:04:28 - [130] - Quote Lugia3 wrote: What if I told you Feyd and Cane have never had anything to do with code? From where did you get the impression that Veers has any interest in facts or reality? Also, whilst not a member of CODE., Cannibal Cane is a friend of the New Order and can be found hanging out in our channel, so he's half-right on that score. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff \| No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that. Sabriz for CSM
Capt Starfox Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team 841	Posted - 2015.02.16 14:37:08 - [131] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: As a diplo you should be negotiating peaceful outcomes with your opponents, not perpetuating further violence and destruction. No. John E Normus wrote: Dear Capt "Foxxie" Starfox, Sometimes I miss SMA. If I have one regret in eve online (a spaceship game) it's that I didn't get the cupcake icon on the alliance TS during that fund drive. ook ook, John ps don't be mad that I "ook ook'd" I never got the cupcake either... That cupcake idea was stupid. Why would you regret not getting it? admiral root wrote: I call for a shareholders meeting to vote on removing John from the executor position. I have traumatic memories of being in SMA. I second this motion! *Abandon all hope ye who x up in fleet*
Jallukola 39	Posted - 2015.02.16 14:44:54 - [132] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: respect, fear, contempt or loyalty In a video game? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Okok sorry, kind of. The greatest battle music of all time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67MPxnPHBNk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16RCvtziXj0
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 506	Posted - 2015.02.16 16:00:18 - [133] - Quote Lugia3 wrote: What if I told you Feyd and Cane have never had anything to do with code? Wtb reading comprehension... And Ms. Foxxy's super cute sunglasses...she is so adorable.
Tora Bushido EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 1971	Posted - 2015.02.16 18:32:19 - [134] - Quote Capt Starfox wrote: admiral root wrote: I call for a shareholders meeting to vote on removing John from the executor position. I have traumatic memories of being in SMA. I second this motion! No worries John, you have my shares TORA FOR CSM X - A NEW HIGH-SEC YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - DELETE THE WEAK , ADAPT OR DIE !
Sir Diablos Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 20	Posted - 2015.02.16 18:48:19 - [135] - Quote I'm rather late to this party, perhaps because I spent the last year's being a socially averse and apathetic carebear. I was risk averse in that it drove me to avoid anyone else at all costs, and despite my efforts to contribute to the Eve Universe, I always ran away. I had a different kind of fear in my heart, and it nearly cost me everything I was in this game. I was prepared to wipe it all away and turn my back on New Eden. The CODE saved me, it grasped me and pulled me back from the precipice of oblivion and showed me another way. And it did this after all the times I was critical of it, of the Supreme Protector himself. With grace and mercy, I was shown a better way than the path that nearly destroyed who I was and what New Eden meant to me. For that, I will be eternally grateful to our Supreme Protector, his agents and the Code. So you see, trumpeting victory before victory is attained is foolhardy and shows that CODE is still needed, to strengthen the denizens of HiSec in order to create Unity and Peace. We may ebb as the tides, but the tides must always rise once more. As long as there are those who believe in the Code, then it shall never perish from New Eden. I support a strong and unified Hisec, I support James 315 in his Vision to make this a reality, and I support the CODE. www.minerbumping.com
John E Normus New Order Logistics CODE. 499	Posted - 2015.02.16 19:51:35 - [136] - Quote Tora Bushido wrote: Capt Starfox wrote: admiral root wrote: I call for a shareholders meeting to vote on removing John from the executor position. I have traumatic memories of being in SMA. I second this motion! No worries John, you have my shares The last exec who had your shares though... Kiss of death Between Ignorance and Wisdom
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 508	Posted - 2015.02.17 05:47:39 - [137] - Quote Tora Bushido wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: As a diplo you should be negotiating peaceful outcomes with your opponents, not perpetuating further violence and destruction. Delete the weak, adapt or die ! Delete the weak, eh? And then what? If there ain't no fish in the pond, the sharks gonna start starving. And wasn't it you who made protecting small corps an integral part of your CSM campaign, complaining the frequent wardeccs were stunting corporate growth in the game? How does that tie into deleting the weak? Or is that just another discarded platform in your wildly zig zagging CSM campaign, less predictable than the death throes of a drunken bumblebee?
Six Beavers New Order Logistics CODE. 34	Posted - 2015.02.17 08:22:09 - [138] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Delete the weak, eh? And then what? If there ain't no fish in the pond, the sharks gonna start starving. Veers you and your kind reproduce like herrings, there is little danger of overfishing
Neo Kathura New Order of Highsec 50	Posted - 2015.02.17 09:51:10 - [139] - Quote Six Beavers wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Delete the weak, eh? And then what? If there ain't no fish in the pond, the sharks gonna start starving. Veers you and your kind reproduce like herrings, there is little danger of overfishing Last I checked, herring was only sustainable for part of the year and only because they can be caught using a relatively clean process.
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 1314	Posted - 2015.02.17 09:58:30 - [140] - Quote Dirty bombs best way to fish, especially at night. That way you can use the lovely glow to identify your catch in the dark. Little chance of overfishing causing the sharks to starve, Veers. You see, the sharks regularly feed on each other in addition to a regular dose of their 'pathetic' (your word, not mine) prey. It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
ggodhsup relocation LLC. 58	Posted - 2015.02.17 11:20:02 - [141] - Quote tons of CODE.ies here claiming CODE. is doing just fine.
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 1	Posted - 2015.02.17 11:28:56 - [142] - Quote ggodhsup wrote: tons of CODE.ies here claiming CODE. is doing just fine. Well, and they are doing just fine. Which is why we need to stand together to defeat them. Please note that if you join my corp, I still do suggest purchasing a mining permit from your local agent until the glorious day when we finally defeat the New Order once and for all. Now accepting corp apps to defeat the New Order! Simply mail me an essay about yourself and the New Order. Please copy in James 315 or your favourite agent. Don't forget to separately mail me a full account api (no expiration) for security.
ggodhsup relocation LLC. 58	Posted - 2015.02.17 12:40:24 - [143] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: ggodhsup wrote: tons of CODE.ies here claiming CODE. is doing just fine. Well, and they are doing just fine. Which is why we need to stand together to defeat them. Please note that if you join my corp, I still do suggest purchasing a mining permit from your local agent until the glorious day when we finally defeat the New Order once and for all. i will join your corp! and stand together with my mining bretheren to defeat CODE. i will buy a mining permit! and i will join the many trolls and whiners before me in posting tear threads in C&P until CODE. is defeated!
Keikira Borsch Forsaken Reavers Corus Conglomerate 1	Posted - 2015.02.17 13:00:04 - [144] - Quote Lol I put a 10mil bounty on this guy once, several months ago. Killed my autopilot shuttle for being 'unauthorised mining equipment', and demanded 10mil for a permit, which I immediately put on his head for irony's sake. May have been his first bounty ever. Either way, I have since gotten over 200 'a bounty has been claimed' notifications, as people put more bounties on him and he dies incessantly. He gave me a good laugh, will be missed. Well, not really. My notifications will hopefully be clear from now on, at least.
Nerath Naaris Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy 953	Posted - 2015.02.17 13:12:56 - [145] - Quote Sir Diablos wrote: I'm rather late to this party, perhaps because I spent the last year's being a socially averse and apathetic carebear. I was risk averse in that it drove me to avoid anyone else at all costs, and despite my efforts to contribute to the Eve Universe, I always ran away. I had a different kind of fear in my heart, and it nearly cost me everything I was in this game. I was prepared to wipe it all away and turn my back on New Eden. The CODE saved me, it grasped me and pulled me back from the precipice of oblivion and showed me another way. And it did this after all the times I was critical of it, of the Supreme Protector himself. With grace and mercy, I was shown a better way than the path that nearly destroyed who I was and what New Eden meant to me. For that, I will be eternally grateful to our Supreme Protector, his agents and the Code. So you see, trumpeting victory before victory is attained is foolhardy and shows that CODE is still needed, to strengthen the denizens of HiSec in order to create Unity and Peace. We may ebb as the tides, but the tides must always rise once more. As long as there are those who believe in the Code, then it shall never perish from New Eden. You, good sir, have the heart and the soul of a poet. You can rest assured, though, in the comforting blanket of the silent approval of the multitudes; the Saviors work is not only done by deed but by thought as well. Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20.
Tora Bushido EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 1974	Posted - 2015.02.17 21:55:14 - [146] - Quote John E Normus wrote: The last exec who had your shares though... Kiss of death I never said I was a nice guy TORA FOR CSM X - A NEW HIGH-SEC YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - DELETE THE WEAK , ADAPT OR DIE !
Chocolate Mooses The Conference Elite CODE. 10	Posted - 2015.02.17 22:05:02 - [147] - Quote Keikira Borsch wrote: Lol I put a 10mil bounty on this guy once, several months ago. Killed my autopilot shuttle for being 'unauthorised mining equipment', and demanded 10mil for a permit, which I immediately put on his head for irony's sake. May have been his first bounty ever. Either way, I have since gotten over 200 'a bounty has been claimed' notifications, as people put more bounties on him and he dies incessantly. He gave me a good laugh, will be missed. Well, not really. My notifications will hopefully be clear from now on, at least. The adorable part is that you seem to actually think that your "bounty" or anyone else's "bounty" on him have anything to do with him losing ships. #ProTip: It does not. But hey, as long as it makes you feel good.
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 932	Posted - 2015.02.17 22:06:04 - [148] - Quote Sir Diablos wrote: I'm rather late to this party, perhaps because I spent the last year's being a socially averse and apathetic carebear. I was risk averse in that it drove me to avoid anyone else at all costs, and despite my efforts to contribute to the Eve Universe, I always ran away. I had a different kind of fear in my heart, and it nearly cost me everything I was in this game. I was prepared to wipe it all away and turn my back on New Eden. The CODE saved me, it grasped me and pulled me back from the precipice of oblivion and showed me another way. And it did this after all the times I was critical of it, of the Supreme Protector himself. With grace and mercy, I was shown a better way than the path that nearly destroyed who I was and what New Eden meant to me. For that, I will be eternally grateful to our Supreme Protector, his agents and the Code. So you see, trumpeting victory before victory is attained is foolhardy and shows that CODE is still needed, to strengthen the denizens of HiSec in order to create Unity and Peace. We may ebb as the tides, but the tides must always rise once more. As long as there are those who believe in the Code, then it shall never perish from New Eden. All can be Saved, we ride into battle to bring Enlightenment and Freedom to the masses. There are still so many living in darkness, but every soul we Save brings another spark of light to New High Sec. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Hrothgar Nilsson 455	Posted - 2015.02.17 22:16:00 - [149] - Quote Out of curiosity, what does CODE have planned for those bot aspirant players who shield themselves in NPC corps and multibox protection alongside their multiboxed mining fleets? I enter exhibit A: http://i.imgur.com/cYrVD3w.jpg - Halaima, 2 groups of multiboxers, one with 12 accounts active and the other with 10. With 100 drones out for protection. They are sucking the Halaima ice field bone dry every single day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8
admiral root Red Galaxy 2372	Posted - 2015.02.17 22:30:04 - [150] - Quote Hrothgar Nilsson wrote: Out of curiosity, what does CODE have planned for those bot aspirant players who shield themselves in NPC corps and multibox protection alongside their multiboxed mining fleets? I enter exhibit A: http://i.imgur.com/cYrVD3w.jpg - Halaima, 2 groups of multiboxers, one with 12 accounts active and the other with 10. With 100 drones out for protection. They are sucking the Halaima ice field bone dry every single day. If you feel we're taking too long, deal with it yourself. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff \| No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that. Sabriz for CSM
Hrothgar Nilsson 455	Posted - 2015.02.17 23:02:12 - [151] - Quote It wasn't a question about how long it's going to take. It was a question about if anything is planned to be done at all. It would seem that after having gone after the low-hanging fruit, the result has primarily benefited those who are willing to engage in even more egregious bot-aspirant behavior that is more difficult to root out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8
Elizabet Forgrave Perkone Caldari State 7	Posted - 2015.02.17 23:28:09 - [152] - Quote I'm fighting code in my own way. As of today, I've contacted over 1000 miners to give advice on how to fit, how to avoid gankers and how to maximise efficiency all the while. I know code will claim that's a victory for them as they claim everything is but they want people to kill and I'm aiming to reduce their potential target numbers. Whatever though if miners can mine though and worry much less about being ganked, thats definitely a victory for miners and that's all I care about.
Concord Guy's Cousin State War Academy Caldari State 642	Posted - 2015.02.18 00:18:22 - [153] - Quote Elizabet Forgrave wrote: I'm fighting code in my own way. As of today, I've contacted over 1000 miners to give advice on how to fit, how to avoid gankers and how to maximise efficiency all the while. For the most part you'll be ignored, good effort though. Quote: I know code will claim that's a victory for them as they claim everything is but they want people to kill and I'm aiming to reduce their potential target numbers. Whatever though if miners can mine though and worry much less about being ganked, thats definitely a victory for miners and that's all I care about. It's a win for both of you if even 10% of the miners you've contacted heed your advice. ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries" NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
Leto Thule Everywhere and Terrible 2096	Posted - 2015.02.18 03:07:34 - [154] - Quote Hrothgar Nilsson wrote: Out of curiosity, what does CODE have planned for those bot aspirant players who shield themselves in NPC corps and multibox protection alongside their multiboxed mining fleets? I enter exhibit A: http://i.imgur.com/cYrVD3w.jpg - Halaima, 2 groups of multiboxers, one with 12 accounts active and the other with 10. With 100 drones out for protection. They are sucking the Halaima ice field bone dry every single day. Be the change you want to see. - Psychotic Monk Big Fat Forum Meanie and Thanatos Scammer
Hrothgar Nilsson 455	Posted - 2015.02.18 05:54:11 - [155] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: Be the change you want to see. - Psychotic Monk Who was asking for change? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8
Elizabet Forgrave Perkone Caldari State 7	Posted - 2015.02.18 07:57:53 - [156] - Quote Concord Guy's Cousin wrote: Elizabet Forgrave wrote: I'm fighting code in my own way. As of today, I've contacted over 1000 miners to give advice on how to fit, how to avoid gankers and how to maximise efficiency all the while. For the most part you'll be ignored, good effort though. You'd be surprised. I spend about half an hour every morning just reading and responding to mails just saying thanks, asking for further advice or clarification. Honestly I've been quite surprised at how receptive players are to advice. It's probably a bit tougher if you've just blown up their ship and are telling them to pay you and all will be well Concord Guy's Cousin wrote: Quote: I know code will claim that's a victory for them as they claim everything is but they want people to kill and I'm aiming to reduce their potential target numbers. Whatever though if miners can mine though and worry much less about being ganked, thats definitely a victory for miners and that's all I care about. It's a win for both of you if even 10% of the miners you've contacted heed your advice. it's gonna be a tough one to measure though for sure.
Tora Bushido EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 1974	Posted - 2015.02.18 08:09:29 - [157] - Quote Leto Thule wrote: Be the change you want to see. - Psychotic Monk Kill them all, then kill them again - PM TORA FOR CSM X - A NEW HIGH-SEC YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - DELETE THE WEAK , ADAPT OR DIE !
Keikira Borsch Forsaken Reavers Corus Conglomerate 1	Posted - 2015.02.18 12:15:17 - [158] - Quote Chocolate Mooses wrote: Keikira Borsch wrote: Lol I put a 10mil bounty on this guy once, several months ago. Killed my autopilot shuttle for being 'unauthorised mining equipment', and demanded 10mil for a permit, which I immediately put on his head for irony's sake. May have been his first bounty ever. Either way, I have since gotten over 200 'a bounty has been claimed' notifications, as people put more bounties on him and he dies incessantly. He gave me a good laugh, will be missed. Well, not really. My notifications will hopefully be clear from now on, at least. The adorable part is that you seem to actually think that your "bounty" or anyone else's "bounty" on him have anything to do with him losing ships. #ProTip: It does not. But hey, as long as it makes you feel good. Well, he is one of the highest ranked players in the game... in losing ships. Then again, he is top rank in isk destroyed, so I can't really say anything. I don't really give a damn. I was once dumb and autopiloted through hisec and had a laugh. On a sidenote, if loyalanon is reading - throw me an evemail if you ever come down to Christchurch. Not too many eve players down here, as far as I know.
Shallanna Yassavi Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.02.20 11:04:30 - [159] - Quote Hrothgar Nilsson wrote: Out of curiosity, what does CODE have planned for those bot aspirant players who shield themselves in NPC corps and multibox protection alongside their multiboxed mining fleets? I enter exhibit A: http://i.imgur.com/cYrVD3w.jpg - Halaima, 2 groups of multiboxers, one with 12 accounts active and the other with 10. With 100 drones out for protection. They are sucking the Halaima ice field bone dry every single day. Nothing at all. They're too busy killing noobs in Ventures. A signature :o
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 640	Posted - 2015.02.20 11:16:17 - [160] - Quote Shallanna Yassavi wrote: Hrothgar Nilsson wrote: Out of curiosity, what does CODE have planned for those bot aspirant players who shield themselves in NPC corps and multibox protection alongside their multiboxed mining fleets? I enter exhibit A: http://i.imgur.com/cYrVD3w.jpg - Halaima, 2 groups of multiboxers, one with 12 accounts active and the other with 10. With 100 drones out for protection. They are sucking the Halaima ice field bone dry every single day. Nothing at all. They're too busy killing noobs in Ventures. Come on guys, be the change that you want. If you don't like those bot-aspirants mining your ice then do something about them! Impose your will on New Eden. Get some bumpers, start ganking, gather a bigger fleet of miners to out-compete them - do anything. Don't just throw your hands up and wish for someone else to fix your problems. Whining in the forums all defeatist-like for someone else to do it isn't going to get you far in this game. Find some self-respect and play the game! Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 is a good idea.
Hrothgar Nilsson 466	Posted - 2015.02.20 16:11:08 - [161] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: Come on guys, be the change that you want. If you don't like those bot-aspirants mining your ice then do something about them! Impose your will on New Eden. Get some bumpers, start ganking, gather a bigger fleet of miners to out-compete them - do anything. Don't just throw your hands up and wish for someone else to fix your problems. Whining in the forums all defeatist-like for someone else to do it isn't going to get you far in this game. Find some self-respect and play the game! It wasn't a whine, it's not my ice, and I'm not asking YOU to do anything. Merely pointing out a couple of observations. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8
Thius Taxus Thellere Blueprint Mania 4	Posted - 2015.02.20 16:26:50 - [162] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Thius Taxus Thellere wrote: I would say YOU are the won who lost Eve. By making a computer game so personal. No one will miss you when you leave. Hardly personal...savoring sweet victory over bad people is more of an entertaining hobby for me. Fantastic backtrack
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen Origin. Black Legion. 1960	Posted - 2015.02.20 16:36:56 - [163] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Agondray wrote: we could wish but way to many gank for one reason or another since they started, so while code it self my shutdown the ganking wont Losing their main FC will considerably weaken their efforts...code is slowly disintegrating, and will soon be relegated to the dustbin of history. Oh sh[t, I just realized...Veers is an alt of Lucas Kell, who is an alt of...the iraqi information minister! Just how deep does this rabbit hole go? F Would you like to know more?
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen Origin. Black Legion. 1961	Posted - 2015.02.20 17:09:58 - [164] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Losing their main FC will considerably weaken their efforts...code is slowly disintegrating, and will soon be relegated to the dustbin of history. Oh god, I crack myself up sometimes. Lets keep it rolling... 100m ISK to the person that comes up with the best quote in the above image text (image linked in this thread for all to enjoy). Winner declared by most likes. F Would you like to know more?
La Rynx School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 198	Posted - 2015.02.20 18:11:17 - [165] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: Shallanna Yassavi wrote: Hrothgar Nilsson wrote: Out of curiosity, what does CODE have planned for those bot aspirant players who shield themselves in NPC corps and multibox protection alongside their multiboxed mining fleets? I enter exhibit A: http://i.imgur.com/cYrVD3w.jpg - Halaima, 2 groups of multiboxers, one with 12 accounts active and the other with 10. With 100 drones out for protection. They are sucking the Halaima ice field bone dry every single day. Nothing at all. They're too busy killing noobs in Ventures. Come on guys, be the change that you want. If you don't like those bot-aspirants mining your ice then do something about them! Impose your will on New Eden. Get some bumpers, start ganking, gather a bigger fleet of miners to out-compete them - do anything. Don't just throw your hands up and wish for someone else to fix your problems. Whining in the forums all defeatist-like for someone else to do it isn't going to get you far in this game. Find some self-respect and play the game! self-respect? By dawdling in hiscec and anoy the miners? You wanna impose you go lo-null. Hisec belongs to Concord. Concord doesnt care much about citizens, but kill gankers all the time. Impression = NULL "bot-aspirant" is a codie buzzword, there is nothing like that. "Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time." Forum Main
admiral root Red Galaxy 2414	Posted - 2015.02.20 19:01:04 - [166] - Quote Shallanna Yassavi wrote: They're too busy killing noobs in Ventures. Noobs deserve whatever happens to them, regardless of what ship they're flying. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff \| No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that. Sabriz for CSM
Solonius Rex F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY. 160	Posted - 2015.02.20 20:08:56 - [167] - Quote La Rynx wrote: Black Pedro wrote: Shallanna Yassavi wrote: Hrothgar Nilsson wrote: Out of curiosity, what does CODE have planned for those bot aspirant players who shield themselves in NPC corps and multibox protection alongside their multiboxed mining fleets? I enter exhibit A: http://i.imgur.com/cYrVD3w.jpg - Halaima, 2 groups of multiboxers, one with 12 accounts active and the other with 10. With 100 drones out for protection. They are sucking the Halaima ice field bone dry every single day. Nothing at all. They're too busy killing noobs in Ventures. Come on guys, be the change that you want. If you don't like those bot-aspirants mining your ice then do something about them! Impose your will on New Eden. Get some bumpers, start ganking, gather a bigger fleet of miners to out-compete them - do anything. Don't just throw your hands up and wish for someone else to fix your problems. Whining in the forums all defeatist-like for someone else to do it isn't going to get you far in this game. Find some self-respect and play the game! self-respect? By dawdling in hiscec and anoy the miners? You wanna impose you go lo-null. Hisec belongs to Concord. Concord doesnt care much about citizens, but kill gankers all the time. Impression = NULL "bot-aspirant" is a codie buzzword, there is nothing like that. Im certain Code is having more fun ganking, than the miners are at mining or being ganked. But all you seem to be doing is telling code what to do, without actually doing anything about it. You want Code to impose their will in low-null, then actually do something about it. Dont sit here in the forums, crying and whining.
ISD Ezwal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 3880	Posted - 2015.02.20 20:27:18 - [168] - Quote I have removed a rule breaking post and the one quoting it. The Rules: 4. Personal attacks are prohibited. Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated. ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen Origin. Black Legion. 1964	Posted - 2015.02.20 21:23:30 - [169] - Quote Quick, to the Ripardmobile! Would you like to know more?
Kaely Tanniss Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 269	Posted - 2015.02.20 22:07:07 - [170] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: between this, Feyd going to null, and Cannibal Kane mostly going inactive, highsec griefing may be over. Veers always wins! http://www.minerbumping.com/2015/02/highsec-miner-grab-bag-72.html?showComment=1423419940758#c5043912067282719038 (08.02.2015 16:25:07) redacted: Hello everyone, This is a mail regarding my departure from Eve. Its been a good 2 years with the New Order of High Sec/Code Alliance and I have come to make alot of good friends/enemies in this game. I would like to thank everyone for there support and in the help in us achieving some great things while being a part of the New Order. For me though it is time for me to concentrate on real life and my family hence why I am leaving Eve. I would like to say a big shout out to John E Normus and Capt Starfox for always being around when we were going through spaceship dramas and the countless hours/days we spent pvping miners. To The Conference Elite pilots thankyou for making TCE one of the greatest corps in all of eve and I am sure you will still carry the banner for months to come. I am incredibly proud of what we have all achieved in Eve, and for helping me shove carebear tears up CCP's xxxxx whenever they tried to nerf our playstyle. It has been an amazing journey through friendships, carebear tears, ts rage, milestones etc but for me real life comes first. I can be reached on redacted if anyone wants to catch up at anytime, Also please feel free to mail me if any of you come to New Zealand. To our Saviour James 315, keep rocking on, I will forever be grateful in your belief in me, and in your help that you have given me throughout the last year and a half, it has truly been a pleasure. To someone in goons can you please pass this message onto all of Mini-luv. Thankyou all o/ loyalanon PS - I will occassionally jump on however I wont be on everyday/week etc. You keep on believing that Veers. The world of "griefing" as you call it, is alive and well and was not or will never be dependent on a few players. You are living in lala land if you think it is over because a few players have moved or stopped playing. You are far too new of a player to make that judgement and have not been around long enough to know it doesn't just "go away". I do, however, find comedy in the fact you think you know. At least you hold some value to the community. With all due respect (and that's not much), you know far too little to make judgement calls such as this. Veers can never win because Veers will never play...you don't PvP..you don't even interact outside of forum wariorism...so win you say? It's laughable...and I thank you for the laugh. Woooot..Veers won the red x crusade. If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Gerhard Stringfellow Instinctive Gaming Incorporated. 5	Posted - 2015.02.24 02:58:09 - [171] - Quote My fondest memory of code will be the time a lone frigate told our mining fleet to pay up 30m apiece for some ***** mining permit, and we told him too ** off; five minutes later he was out of the system and we never saw or heard from him again. That's how I'll remember CODE.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 533	Posted - 2015.02.24 06:05:52 - [172] - Quote Kaely Tanniss wrote: You keep on believing that Veers. The world of "griefing" as you call it, is alive and well and was not or will never be dependent on a few players. You are living in lala land if you think it is over because a few players have moved or stopped playing. You are far too new of a player to make that judgement and have not been around long enough to know it doesn't just "go away". I do, however, find comedy in the fact you think you know. At least you hold some value to the community. With all due respect (and that's not much), you know far too little to make judgement calls such as this. Veers can never win because Veers will never play...you don't PvP..you don't even interact outside of forum wariorism...so win you say? It's laughable...and I thank you for the laugh. Woooot..Veers won the red x crusade. Oh Miss Kaely....if only you could handle the truth. Griefing is dying...code is a shell...awoxxing is gone...wars soon to follow, and highsec PvE is reaching record highs. Bittervet denial won't change it, Miss Kaely. Get outside..look around...see how much fun people are having working together instead of shooting at each other. I'm happy to supply you with an autograph if you would like - you seem like quite the groupie.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 533	Posted - 2015.02.24 06:07:15 - [173] - Quote Gerhard Stringfellow wrote: My fondest memory of code will be the time a lone frigate told our mining fleet to pay up 30m apiece for some ***** mining permit, and we told him too ** off; five minutes later he was out of the system and we never saw or heard from him again. That's how I'll remember CODE. Mine will be when Sabriz announced a massive incursion ganking contest...which results in...wait for it....a grand total of....0 ganks. Turns out hot air, bluster, lame prizes, and a lot of hope ain't quite enough against elite PvE players. But hey, at least the website is amusing.
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen Origin. Black Legion. 1969	Posted - 2015.02.24 21:31:16 - [174] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: .. I'm happy to supply you with an autograph if you would like - you seem like quite the groupie. I again ask this in all sincerity. Veers who? This is what happens I suppose, when Lucas Kell forgets he is shiptoasting with the wrong alt.... F Would you like to know more?
Kaely Tanniss Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 269	Posted - 2015.02.24 22:34:54 - [175] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Kaely Tanniss wrote: You keep on believing that Veers. The world of "griefing" as you call it, is alive and well and was not or will never be dependent on a few players. You are living in lala land if you think it is over because a few players have moved or stopped playing. You are far too new of a player to make that judgement and have not been around long enough to know it doesn't just "go away". I do, however, find comedy in the fact you think you know. At least you hold some value to the community. With all due respect (and that's not much), you know far too little to make judgement calls such as this. Veers can never win because Veers will never play...you don't PvP..you don't even interact outside of forum wariorism...so win you say? It's laughable...and I thank you for the laugh. Woooot..Veers won the red x crusade. Oh Miss Kaely....if only you could handle the truth. Griefing is dying...code is a shell...awoxxing is gone...wars soon to follow, and highsec PvE is reaching record highs. Bittervet denial won't change it, Miss Kaely. Get outside..look around...see how much fun people are having working together instead of shooting at each other. I'm happy to supply you with an autograph if you would like - you seem like quite the groupie. Sure. How would you know? You don't PvP..you hide in stations and only cme out to to make isk. Do you get your information from other forum warriors or something? I am out and around..which is how I know. That's more than I can say for you. ...and no thanks, unlike you, I don't need attention from others to feel complete...so keep your autograph. I just find your mis-information rather entertaining. If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 534	Posted - 2015.02.25 03:46:20 - [176] - Quote Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: .. I'm happy to supply you with an autograph if you would like - you seem like quite the groupie. I again ask this in all sincerity. Veers who? This is what happens I suppose, when Lucas Kell forgets he is shiptoasting with the wrong alt.... F Oh dear....back to the delusional alt accusations?
John E Normus New Order Logistics CODE. 502	Posted - 2015.02.25 04:25:23 - [177] - Quote Hi! I did some ganking tonight with nullsec hero and friend to the common man, Capt Starfox. We did a few ganks and shook the rust off of our 1337 peeveepee game. Come to find out that when I'm singing Yelle during a gank on TS and Starfox yells, "Battlecomms" or "Eat a bag of dicks!" that is nullsec lingo for "stfu." I'd like to send a shout out to the minerbumping channel for helping with the translations! I'm not really sure if it's appropriate for an f1 monkey to yell those things on comms while I'm FC'ing? I will work on finding an answer to that... I'm happy to report that our friend loyalanon is doing well and misses most of you. Okay, some of you... seriously, he's not really missing any of us. It feels good to be back enforcing the Code again :) Alliance updates: 1) Mildron Klinker's Very Special Agent status has been revoked until further notice! You know what you did... 2) The minerbumping channel will be purged sometime before Friday. That Helder von whatever person asked me to buy shares in an anti-code movement tonight right there in channel!. That place can really become a wretched hive of scum and villainy if not monitored. 3) Capt Starfox questioned the importance of having an alliance diplo team tonight. After thinking about it for a second or two I encouraged him to continue "diplo'ing" people every chance he got. He informed me that he would start reading the hundreds of unread mails in his inbox as soon as possible. If you have been waiting for an official CODE. response from us, your wait is almost over! 4) A new corp will be joining CODE. 5) Sarah Flynt has changed her character's hair color from red to black. CODE. alliance officially denounces this change and we will employ the full might of the New Order to get it changed back! Bye Between Ignorance and Wisdom
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 537	Posted - 2015.02.25 04:49:45 - [178] - Quote John E Normus wrote: Hi! I did some ganking tonight with nullsec hero and friend to the common man, Capt Starfox. We did a few ganks and shook the rust off of our 1337 peeveepee game. Come to find out that when I'm singing Yelle during a gank on TS and Starfox yells, "Battlecomms" or "Eat a bag of dicks!" that is nullsec lingo for "stfu." I'd like to send a shout out to the minerbumping channel for helping with the translations! I'm not really sure if it's appropriate for an f1 monkey to yell those things on comms while I'm FC'ing? I will work on finding an answer to that... I'm happy to report that our friend loyalanon is doing well and misses most of you. Okay, some of you... seriously, he's not really missing any of us. It feels good to be back enforcing the Code again :) Alliance updates: 1) Mildron Klinker's Very Special Agent status has been revoked until further notice! You know what you did... 2) The minerbumping channel will be purged sometime before Friday. That Helder von whatever person asked me to buy shares in an anti-code movement tonight right there in channel!. That place can really become a wretched hive of scum and villainy if not monitored. 3) Capt Starfox questioned the importance of having an alliance diplo team tonight. After thinking about it for a second or two I encouraged him to continue "diplo'ing" people every chance he got. He informed me that he would start reading the hundreds of unread mails in his inbox as soon as possible. If you have been waiting for an official CODE. response from us, your wait is almost over! 4) A new corp will be joining CODE. 5) Sarah Flynt has changed her character's hair color from red to black. CODE. alliance officially denounces this change and we will employ the full might of the New Order to get it changed back! Bye It took you a full 2 hours to blow up 4 undertanked miners? You guys have really fallen off a cliff.
Zepher Helen Hawat ULTRAMAR SECURITIES 44	Posted - 2015.02.25 05:29:12 - [179] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: elite PvE players. . Hat check on aisle 1... hat check on aisle 1! Can somebody check a hat size for the customer on aisle 1?
Amanda Charntes The Scope Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2015.02.25 05:42:47 - [180] - Quote It's cute how you anti-gankers think CODE. can be stopped at this point. It was far too late to stop them when the game came out in 2003. The New Order has established a reputation for elite highsec pvp, and it's too strong to ever die out. Long live James315 and his efforts for a better highsec!
Gerhard Stringfellow Instinctive Gaming Incorporated. 6	Posted - 2015.02.25 05:46:45 - [181] - Quote Amanda Charntes wrote: It's cute how you anti-gankers think CODE. can be stopped at this point. It was far too late to stop them when the game came out in 2003. The New Order has established a reputation for elite highsec pvp, and it's too strong to ever die out. Long live James315 and his efforts for a better highsec! I don't know what to say except that my head hurts.
Piz Caldera Saubaer Schweinepriester 22	Posted - 2015.02.25 11:23:31 - [182] - Quote havent been online here a while...Veers still so much butthurt...pouuh Veers Belvar wrote: ... the pain he has inflicted on so many innocent highsec players, and such other detrimental activities that he has engaged in. ...Perhaps the profound feelings of guilt caused him to reassess his conduct, and shamefully flee from his hideous in game reputation. As far as being remembered...certainly, he will be remembered. Like many cold blooded criminals throughout history his name will be etched in minds for posterity, a warning of what can become of those who abandon any semblance of common decency and moral values. To be remembered for evil is no great merit - far better to be forgotten for good....how many of our criminal masterminds throughout the ages would give anything to return and repair their sullied names? Loyalanon will be remembered allright, remembered for crime, remembered for pain, remembered for taunting, tear collection, and rage inducement. Remembered for everything that one can possibly do wrong in the game. Congratulations Loyalanon, you lost Eve. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Innocent? no Pilot in Eve is innocent which fly without Code permit. Its a criminal act not to buy a Code Permit. And a Permit has to be buyed for each activity, not just mining, also salvaging, PVE, Missionrunning, Hauling, Stationtrading, even just for crossing gates or dockin stations you need a permit and to honor James 315. What the people will remember about you Veers? wait...i think about.. ...damn..uuuh...need more time...ahh...maybe your hairs..... or just nothing.. Thanks to Loyalo for the time! Eve became just by him a better place. Our mission is still not complete. But we win, as always.
Kaely Tanniss Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 270	Posted - 2015.02.26 00:32:50 - [183] - Quote Gerhard Stringfellow wrote: Amanda Charntes wrote: It's cute how you anti-gankers think CODE. can be stopped at this point. It was far too late to stop them when the game came out in 2003. The New Order has established a reputation for elite highsec pvp, and it's too strong to ever die out. Long live James315 and his efforts for a better highsec! I don't know what to say except that my head hurts. CODE always has been and always will be the 90 pound weakling who tried to bully kindergartners in a controlled setting and somehow lost. And then apparently proceeded to tell everyone he's a badass. Oh brother...not another "bullying" post about blowing up spaceships in a game about blowing up spaceships.. [/quote] It took you a full 2 hours to blow up 4 undertanked miners? You guys have really fallen off a cliff. [/quote] When was the last time you actually blew something up that wasn't a red cross? If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 953	Posted - 2015.02.26 00:45:40 - [184] - Quote Gerhard Stringfellow wrote: Amanda Charntes wrote: It's cute how you anti-gankers think CODE. can be stopped at this point. It was far too late to stop them when the game came out in 2003. The New Order has established a reputation for elite highsec pvp, and it's too strong to ever die out. Long live James315 and his efforts for a better highsec! I don't know what to say except that my head hurts. CODE always has been and always will be the 90 pound weakling who tried to bully kindergartners in a controlled setting and somehow lost. And then apparently proceeded to tell everyone he's a badass. Not sure where you get your random 90 lb idea from... or the idea that Code "lost." The Code is winning everyday, always has been and always will be. If you don't understand how that's true then you fail to understand the true nature and the true purpose of the Code. In conclusion, Code has many badass'. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Sibyyl Gallente Federation 23452	Posted - 2015.02.26 05:54:02 - [185] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: between this, Feyd going to null, and Cannibal Kane mostly going inactive, highsec griefing may be over. Veers always wins! People have real life commitments, and the mature thing to do is to wish them luck in their journey. The people who've logged off to be with friends and family are the real winners. Any EVE player knows that. Rush to danger, wind up nowhere Sabriz for CSM go go go
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 955	Posted - 2015.02.26 18:35:39 - [186] - Quote Sibyyl wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: between this, Feyd going to null, and Cannibal Kane mostly going inactive, highsec griefing may be over. Veers always wins! People have real life commitments, and the mature thing to do is to wish them luck in their journey. The people who've logged off to be with friends and family are the real winners. Any sensible EVE player knows that. Fixed it for you. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 537	Posted - 2015.02.27 04:16:07 - [187] - Quote Sibyyl wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: between this, Feyd going to null, and Cannibal Kane mostly going inactive, highsec griefing may be over. Veers always wins! People have real life commitments, and the mature thing to do is to wish them luck in their journey. The people who've logged off to be with friends and family are the real winners. Any EVE player knows that. It's certainly laudable to have real life commitments - I myself have many important ones. They should factor into your thinking before you make broad statements about changing the nature of the game. For example, declaring that you have an 8 year plan to destroy all PvE play in highsec may be a poor decision if you a) work 60 hours a week at Mcdonalds, and b) have major ADD issues. All we want is for the highsec griefers to make an effort to anticipate future obligations before announcing their grandiose schemes.
Sibyyl Gallente Federation 23482	Posted - 2015.02.27 04:23:08 - [188] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: It's certainly laudable to have real life commitments - I myself have many important ones. They should factor into your thinking before you make broad statements about changing the nature of the game. For example, declaring that you have an 8 year plan to destroy all PvE play in highsec may be a poor decision if you a) work 60 hours a week at Mcdonalds, and b) have major ADD issues. All we want is for the highsec griefers to make an effort to anticipate future obligations before announcing their grandiose schemes. Nobody can anticipate future obligations. Life has a way of changing best laid plans. We both know that trying to be a casual EVE player can be challenging prospect. Why don't you be a bigger person and wish them good luck? Rush to danger, wind up nowhere Sabriz for CSM go go go
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 537	Posted - 2015.02.27 04:26:52 - [189] - Quote Sibyyl wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: It's certainly laudable to have real life commitments - I myself have many important ones. They should factor into your thinking before you make broad statements about changing the nature of the game. For example, declaring that you have an 8 year plan to destroy all PvE play in highsec may be a poor decision if you a) work 60 hours a week at Mcdonalds, and b) have major ADD issues. All we want is for the highsec griefers to make an effort to anticipate future obligations before announcing their grandiose schemes. Nobody can anticipate future obligations. Life has a way of changing best laid plans. We both know that trying to be a casual EVE player can be challenging prospect. Why don't you be a bigger person and wish them good luck? Well, because they spent their entire time in the game attempting to inflict pain and misery and others, and force highsec PvE players to play a PvP shoot em up game that they have no interest in playing. Thus, good luck would be inapposite. Good riddance, you lost, highsec PvE players always win, or something of the sort, would be much more appropriate. No shame in standing up to bad people, winning as per usual, and spreading the tale of your glorious victory, to be remembered in posterity by great and poor alike.
Piz Caldera Saubaer Schweinepriester 24	Posted - 2015.02.27 09:15:43 - [190] - Quote if you feel pain, dont play the Game mate. Play sim city, but switch off before the natural disasters... your arguments are not logic, you still dont understand Eve, as in all months before.
Varathius Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation 157	Posted - 2015.02.27 10:34:48 - [191] - Quote OP: I am amused to see how much energy you spend because of one guy. I think don't think loya really gives a fart about you, but it is ironic that because of him, you are noticed in the forums. You should thank him for that, not hate him.
Marlin Spikes Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness 197	Posted - 2015.02.27 11:41:03 - [192] - Quote Who is this "code" that you speak of? And why does it matter? I couldn't get past the first post...lol Bombers Rule!!! U-MAD Recruitment Pursuit of Happiness Alliance Recruitment
Piz Caldera Saubaer Schweinepriester 24	Posted - 2015.02.27 12:50:21 - [193] - Quote doenst matter Miss...you have got already 2 HUGE permits, a 3rd from Code you dont need. thats how you think Miss, right? once, you will also fly with Code permit
jurgen b Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2015.02.28 02:17:05 - [194] - Quote Marlin Spikes wrote: Who is this "code" that you speak of? And why does it matter? I couldn't get past the first post...lol The "CODE" is not a entity or a person, it is a way. and if used correct, then CODE will always win, it will make you survive or it will get you killed, both way's the CODE will always win. i finaly understand what the CODE is. easy explained, you do the small things that will make it easy to survive in eve, which is a normal code of how the game works, if you dont follow that code it will get you killed. and this means both way the code is always right and will always win.
Thomas Mayaki Perkone Caldari State 47	Posted - 2015.02.28 09:39:08 - [195] - Quote Loyalanon was a caring and considerate sole, frequently she would warp into system asking how i was and if i was crying (she had a bit of a fixation on 'crying') before warping off. She did this quite often even when i was ocassionally afk.
Six Beavers New Order Logistics CODE. 37	Posted - 2015.02.28 11:53:48 - [196] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: All we want is for the highsec griefers to make an effort to anticipate future obligations before announcing their grandiose schemes. Who is this "we" you speak of? You are a solo forum troll and not a very interesting one at that.
Dirk Decibel Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 73	Posted - 2015.02.28 16:17:04 - [197] - Quote Many ppl have predicted the end of the New Order, all were wrong...
Mark O'Helm Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt 37	Posted - 2015.02.28 22:51:37 - [198] - Quote The code always wins when you not stop making threads about them. "Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen."(Zitat eines Singles) "Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind."(Zitat von einem, dem es egal ist)
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 538	Posted - 2015.03.01 03:09:11 - [199] - Quote Mark O'Helm wrote: The code always wins when you not stop making threads about them. I fail to see how having people making forum threads pointing out your incompetence and gradual decline constitutes "winning."
Mark O'Helm Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt 38	Posted - 2015.03.01 03:20:24 - [200] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Mark O'Helm wrote: The code always wins when you not stop making threads about them. I fail to see how having people making forum threads pointing out your incompetence and gradual decline constitutes "winning." I'm fighting code with ignorance and by teaching miner to fly shieldtanked procurers or skiffs and selling their ice to me on the field. Attention makes code strong. That is what they want. To be noticed. If they would honor their permits i would buy one, but they would get bored by being a professionel safety company. So what they do is racketeering without safety, so even the godfather would spit on them. "Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen."(Zitat eines Singles) "Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind."(Zitat von einem, dem es egal ist)
Dirk Decibel Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 73	Posted - 2015.03.01 04:12:39 - [201] - Quote Mark O'Helm wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Mark O'Helm wrote: The code always wins when you not stop making threads about them. I fail to see how having people making forum threads pointing out your incompetence and gradual decline constitutes "winning." I'm fighting code with ignorance and by teaching miner to fly shieldtanked procurers or skiffs and selling their ice to me on the field. Attention makes code strong. That is what they want. To be noticed. If they would honor their permits i would buy one, but they would get bored by being a professionel safety company. So what they do is racketeering without safety, so even the godfather would spit on them. Permits are honored, as long as you are Code compliant, and that's where most miners go wrong. A MINING PERMIT DOES NOT RELIEVE YOU OF YOUR OBLIGATION TO BE TRUE TO THE CODE! Roughly translated this means that a mining permit is just a token that shows you understand EVE gameplay and act accordingly. Hence why the permit fee is so small. It's not about the 10 million isk (who the f* cares about 10 million isk??), it's about acknowledging the fact that you need to be able to hold your own in EVE and accept that you WILL be killed at some point. Code compliant miners know this and act accordingly (as in: flying a decently tanked proc or skiff and being aware of their surroundings)....
Karla the Careless Beyond Reproach 3	Posted - 2015.03.01 04:35:58 - [202] - Quote Dirk Decibel wrote: Mark O'Helm wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Mark O'Helm wrote: The code always wins when you not stop making threads about them. I fail to see how having people making forum threads pointing out your incompetence and gradual decline constitutes "winning." I'm fighting code with ignorance and by teaching miner to fly shieldtanked procurers or skiffs and selling their ice to me on the field. Attention makes code strong. That is what they want. To be noticed. If they would honor their permits i would buy one, but they would get bored by being a professionel safety company. So what they do is racketeering without safety, so even the godfather would spit on them. Permits are honored, as long as you are Code compliant, and that's where most miners go wrong. A MINING PERMIT DOES NOT RELIEVE YOU OF YOUR OBLIGATION TO BE TRUE TO THE CODE! Roughly translated this means that a mining permit is just a token that shows you understand EVE gameplay and act accordingly. Hence why the permit fee is so small. It's not about the 10 million isk (who the f* cares about 10 million isk??), it's about acknowledging the fact that you need to be able to hold your own in EVE and accept that you WILL be killed at some point. Code compliant miners know this and act accordingly (as in: flying a decently tanked proc or skiff and being aware of their surroundings).... Or you could get the information free of charge from others, tank your ships, then tell new/old/whatever code where to shove said code to go alongside the carnation crayon that little jimmy uses to write his list on the wall......
Mark O'Helm Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt 38	Posted - 2015.03.01 05:09:50 - [203] - Quote But why then are there the Hulks and Macks for if not for mining and the choice to use it(ii love my hulks). And what honor is it, to take back permits if somebody take a break and dock up for a while, what was reported somewhere. And if it where legit, what you do i guess, concord would not shoot you. Sry 4 mi bat englisch. "Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen."(Zitat eines Singles) "Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind."(Zitat von einem, dem es egal ist)
servalaan 25	Posted - 2015.03.01 08:06:51 - [204] - Quote Dirk Decibel wrote: Permits are honored, as long as you are Code compliant, and that's where most miners go wrong. A MINING PERMIT DOES NOT RELIEVE YOU OF YOUR OBLIGATION TO BE TRUE TO THE CODE! What a load of rot you do talk, permits are never honoured..... ever! How else will the ring sausages keep the (getting boring now) stories for Minerbumping? The permit itself is a badge of shame, older pilots like myself would never put that crap in their bio's. The point of the permit refers back to the point I made about content for your website, it's just a list of available targets you can gank and 8/10 times you will get the 'content' reaction your looking for. Dirk Decibel wrote: Roughly translated this means that a mining permit is just a token that shows you understand EVE gameplay and act accordingly. Hence why the permit fee is so small. It's not about the 10 million isk (who the f* cares about 10 million isk??), I care!! it's my ISK, I earned it so your not taking it. This isn't EvE gameplay, it's griefing. Dirk Decibel wrote: it's about acknowledging the fact that you need to be able to hold your own in EVE and accept that you WILL be killed at some point. True, but not by you clowns I won't. Dirk Decibel wrote: Code compliant miners know this and act accordingly (as in: flying a decently tanked proc or skiff and being aware of their surroundings).... Well I'm a NON compliant miner flying a 250 million ISK Hulk with no tank, fitted for MAXIMUM yeild and very aware of my surroundings. In Uedema, in a Hulk... you have to be! If pinocchio told you his nose was about to grow, what would happen?
servalaan 25	Posted - 2015.03.01 08:12:44 - [205] - Quote Double poost If pinocchio told you his nose was about to grow, what would happen?
servalaan 25	Posted - 2015.03.01 08:14:04 - [206] - Quote Code always whines, ALWAYS. If pinocchio told you his nose was about to grow, what would happen?
Mark O'Helm Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt 38	Posted - 2015.03.01 08:16:22 - [207] - Quote servalaan wrote: Dirk Decibel wrote: Permits are honored, as long as you are Code compliant, and that's where most miners go wrong. A MINING PERMIT DOES NOT RELIEVE YOU OF YOUR OBLIGATION TO BE TRUE TO THE CODE! What a load of rot you do talk, permits are never honoured..... ever! How else will the ring sausages keep the (getting boring now) stories for Minerbumping? The permit itself is a badge of shame, older pilots like myself would never put that crap in their bio's. The point of the permit refers back to the point I made about content for your website, it's just a list of available targets you can gank and 8/10 times you will get the 'content' reaction your looking for. Exactly. Youre post gives them what they want. Please stop ranting. "Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen."(Zitat eines Singles) "Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind."(Zitat von einem, dem es egal ist)
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 678	Posted - 2015.03.01 08:50:57 - [208] - Quote servalaan wrote: What a load of rot you do talk, permits are never honoured..... ever! How else will the ring sausages keep the (getting boring now) stories for Minerbumping? The permit itself is a badge of shame, older pilots like myself would never put that crap in their bio's. The point of the permit refers back to the point I made about content for your website, it's just a list of available targets you can gank and 8/10 times you will get the 'content' reaction your looking for. Of course permits are honoured - if you hear anything else it is just from opponents of the New Order spreading lies and rumours for their own purposes. No one can point to a single example of a permit holder being ganked while obeying the Code. It really is much more satisfying to explode someone who you have given an option to comply and avoid destruction, than to just destroy everything you can see. Besides, that wouldn't further our goal of a happy, healthy and compliant highsec to just kill everyone. servalaan wrote: This isn't EvE gameplay, it's griefing. Also false. Scams, non-consensual PvP, extortion rackets and the claiming of space and imposing your will on it are all at the very core of the design of Eve. I suggest you read the New Pilot FAQ. Suicide ganking has been put in to the game by design - this has been confirmed multiple times by the developers and therefore is not griefing. It is intended Eve gameplay. servalaan wrote: Well I'm a NON compliant miner flying a 250 million ISK Hulk with no tank, fitted for MAXIMUM yeild and very aware of my surroundings. In Uedema, in a Hulk... you have to be! Sounds like you are very Code-compliant in almost every respect except the permit. You are engaging with the game and protecting your assets (by actually playing it instead of going AFK) exactly as we in the New Order want. The Code always wins. Always. Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 is a good idea.
Dirk Decibel Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 73	Posted - 2015.03.01 12:53:48 - [209] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: Sounds like you are very Code-compliant in almost every respect except the permit. You are engaging with the game and protecting your assets (by actually playing it instead of going AFK) exactly as we in the New Order want. The Code always wins. Always. The beauty of the Code! <3
Cannibal Kane Snuggle Society Snuggle Society. 4791	Posted - 2015.03.03 04:00:36 - [210] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Sibyyl wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: It's certainly laudable to have real life commitments - I myself have many important ones. They should factor into your thinking before you make broad statements about changing the nature of the game. For example, declaring that you have an 8 year plan to destroy all PvE play in highsec may be a poor decision if you a) work 60 hours a week at Mcdonalds, and b) have major ADD issues. All we want is for the highsec griefers to make an effort to anticipate future obligations before announcing their grandiose schemes. Nobody can anticipate future obligations. Life has a way of changing best laid plans. We both know that trying to be a casual EVE player can be challenging prospect. Why don't you be a bigger person and wish them good luck? Well, because they spent their entire time in the game attempting to inflict pain and misery and others, and force highsec PvE players to play a PvP shoot em up game that they have no interest in playing. Thus, good luck would be inapposite. Good riddance, you lost, highsec PvE players always win, or something of the sort, would be much more appropriate. No shame in standing up to bad people, winning as per usual, and spreading the tale of your glorious victory, to be remembered in posterity by great and poor alike. Well... If I lost because I treat real life more important than a game then I guess you are right. Maybe you should sit back from the screen and think real hard what you are saying here. My intent was always to be the villain and play the game it allows me to play. I have done that and then some, I have enjoyed EVE for 4 years and lolled at people like yourself that have come and gone through those years. You are no different then any other troll that has it in for a group of people playing the game differently then yourself. And we have those trolls on both sides of the fence. You my friend are no different then James315, you are just polar opposites. And although I am no fan of ganking (Yes I tried it that is why I can say I do not like it) the horrible fact is... James has accomplished more than you ever have or will. Actions speak louder than words, he Actions with his underlings and you just talk because you cannot find anybody to take you serious enough. Not even those who are on the same side of the fence. If you are going to insult me for my choice of gameplay that is allowed or the fact that I am a casual gamer that sometimes need go offline, at least have some class when doing so. You come of as a very bitter person and that makes me feel sorry for you. Maybe have a happy meal once a day. Then you can at least tell people you were happy at least once a day. "Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 542	Posted - 2015.03.03 05:46:10 - [211] - Quote Cannibal Kane wrote: Well... If I lost because I treat real life more important than a game then I guess you are right. Maybe you should sit back from the screen and think real hard what you are saying here. My intent was always to be the villain and play the game it allows me to play. I have done that and then some, I have enjoyed EVE for 4 years and lolled at people like yourself that have come and gone through those years. You are no different then any other troll that has it in for a group of people playing the game differently then yourself. And we have those trolls on both sides of the fence. You my friend are no different then James315, you are just polar opposites. And although I am no fan of ganking (Yes I tried it that is why I can say I do not like it) the horrible fact is... James has accomplished more than you ever have or will. Actions speak louder than words, he Actions with his underlings and you just talk because you cannot find anybody to take you serious enough. Not even those who are on the same side of the fence. If you are going to insult me for my choice of gameplay that is allowed or the fact that I am a casual gamer that sometimes need go offline, at least have some class when doing so. You come of as a very bitter person and that makes me feel sorry for you. Maybe have a happy meal once a day, should not be expensive for you since I am sure employees get it for free. Then you can at least tell people you were happy at least once a day. Oh dear...confused as per usual, my dear Kane. There is nothing wrong with prioritizing real life over a game, but you should be generally aware of your outside obligations before making broad declaratory statements about your intent to fundamentally change the game. Else you, much like Jamesie and Loyal, come out looking rather foolish. I'm glad you enjoyed the game...your impact was rather muted, I can assure you. Time and again I heard of the great Canniban Kane, but after actually meeting you in the flesh, I came out rather unimpressed. Rhetoric and hot air do not a game changing impact make. I am certainly different than Jamesie...his entire game revolved around hurting people, mine around helping them. We are polar opposites, not doppelgangers. I have no criticism of your casual gameplay...only of people who promise much, but deliver not at all. I really have no problem with you, and think you are a classy guy. I don't like how you play, but my issue is with the wardecc mechanics, not with you specifically. Ehhh...implying I work for McDonalds? Oh dear Kanie...I'm far more intelligent and educated than you can ever hope to be. Keep wardeccing pathetic miners and declaring that you "won Eve" - it does so amuse us. "Kane is the end boss of highsec." - what a joke...do you honestly think that belongs in your bio?
Tear Jar Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 315	Posted - 2015.03.03 05:49:18 - [212] - Quote Mark O'Helm wrote: But why then are there the Hulks and Macks for if not for mining and the choice to use it(ii love my hulks). And what honor is it, to take back permits if somebody take a break and dock up for a while, what was reported somewhere. And if it where legit, what you do i guess, concord would not shoot you. Sry 4 mi bat englisch. Hulks and mackinaws are for mining in null sec where you are safe.
Drez Arthie Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 30	Posted - 2015.03.03 05:56:57 - [213] - Quote Mark O'Helm wrote: But why then are there the Hulks and Macks for if not for mining and the choice to use it(ii love my hulks). And what honor is it, to take back permits if somebody take a break and dock up for a while, what was reported somewhere. And if it where legit, what you do i guess, concord would not shoot you. Sry 4 mi bat englisch. Barge hatred has become pathological. Yes, gank a barge if there is profit, but to keep killing them for some sort of religious cause is just insane. Und du sprichst English sehr besser als ich Deutsch spreche ;)
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 1349	Posted - 2015.03.03 07:36:41 - [214] - Quote Too much spinning is bad for you Veers. You alternate between put downs and 'you cool' too often within a single post... it's just hard to follow even with my own severely limited attention span. You underestimate the impact that villainous players in this game DO have on their fellows. If it weren't for the exploits of players such as Feyd, Cannibal Kane and Psychotic Monk... I would have quit EVE long ago from sheer boredom. Their exploits, especially those in The Pirate Story Thread, got me to thinking that maybe, just maybe the bad guys were having more fun than me. I know I'm not the only one, also. So I tried it out. Guess what? It IS more fun to be the bad guy. You get to play with others, whether they like it or not. If they don't that's okay... if they do, that's even better. These guys actually do make an impact in the game. You do not. On a meta level things are somewhat different... sanctimonious tripe that is so wrong minded that it threatens to cause cancer in the reader has become your hallmark, and by now I'm fairly certain that Buddha himself punches a kitten every time you shiptoast just to balance the scales. It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
Cannibal Kane Snuggle Society Snuggle Society. 4793	Posted - 2015.03.03 09:02:29 - [215] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Oh dear...confused as per usual, my dear Kane. There is nothing wrong with prioritizing real life over a game, but you should be generally aware of your outside obligations before making broad declaratory statements about your intent to fundamentally change the game. Else you, much like Jamesie and Loyal, come out looking rather foolish. I'm glad you enjoyed the game...your impact was rather muted, I can assure you. Time and again I heard of the great Canniban Kane, but after actually meeting you in the flesh, I came out rather unimpressed. Rhetoric and hot air do not a game changing impact make. I am certainly different than Jamesie...his entire game revolved around hurting people, mine around helping them. We are polar opposites, not doppelgangers. I have no criticism of your casual gameplay...only of people who promise much, but deliver not at all. I really have no problem with you, and think you are a classy guy. I don't like how you play, but my issue is with the wardecc mechanics, not with you specifically. Ehhh...implying I work for McDonalds? Oh dear Kanie...I'm far more intelligent and educated than you can ever hope to be. Keep wardeccing pathetic miners and declaring that you "won Eve" - it does so amuse us. "Kane is the end boss of highsec." - what a joke...do you honestly think that belongs in your bio? I never promise anything nor have I ever stated I won anything. I just play and keep myself fairly reserved unless somebody is being an idiot. What I can say though I have inspired many players in this game through stories or just word of mouth. Quite a few players in merc corp came from my Somali BootCamp where we took new players into wars. If I had the time I would do that again since it was very successful. Those new player never though they could be that powerful when working together. Something you and your kind continuously say new players are not capable off. What have you done to deserve any respect other then troll posting on the forums? If you want people to listen to you I would suggest a change in the way you talk and approach people. You say your are intelligent? Then start acting like you are otherwise you are going to stay that CODE Alt everybody believes you to be. As for my Bio... it was given to me. I like it so it stays. "Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Kaely Tanniss Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 272	Posted - 2015.03.03 10:57:47 - [216] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Cannibal Kane wrote: Well... If I lost because I treat real life more important than a game then I guess you are right. Maybe you should sit back from the screen and think real hard what you are saying here. My intent was always to be the villain and play the game it allows me to play. I have done that and then some, I have enjoyed EVE for 4 years and lolled at people like yourself that have come and gone through those years. You are no different then any other troll that has it in for a group of people playing the game differently then yourself. And we have those trolls on both sides of the fence. You my friend are no different then James315, you are just polar opposites. And although I am no fan of ganking (Yes I tried it that is why I can say I do not like it) the horrible fact is... James has accomplished more than you ever have or will. Actions speak louder than words, he Actions with his underlings and you just talk because you cannot find anybody to take you serious enough. Not even those who are on the same side of the fence. If you are going to insult me for my choice of gameplay that is allowed or the fact that I am a casual gamer that sometimes need go offline, at least have some class when doing so. You come of as a very bitter person and that makes me feel sorry for you. Maybe have a happy meal once a day, should not be expensive for you since I am sure employees get it for free. Then you can at least tell people you were happy at least once a day. Oh dear...confused as per usual, my dear Kane. There is nothing wrong with prioritizing real life over a game, but you should be generally aware of your outside obligations before making broad declaratory statements about your intent to fundamentally change the game. Else you, much like Jamesie and Loyal, come out looking rather foolish. I'm glad you enjoyed the game...your impact was rather muted, I can assure you. Time and again I heard of the great Canniban Kane, but after actually meeting you in the flesh, I came out rather unimpressed. Rhetoric and hot air do not a game changing impact make. I am certainly different than Jamesie...his entire game revolved around hurting people, mine around helping them. We are polar opposites, not doppelgangers. I have no criticism of your casual gameplay...only of people who promise much, but deliver not at all. I really have no problem with you, and think you are a classy guy. I don't like how you play, but my issue is with the wardecc mechanics, not with you specifically. Ehhh...implying I work for McDonalds? Oh dear Kanie...I'm far more intelligent and educated than you can ever hope to be. Keep wardeccing pathetic miners and declaring that you "won Eve" - it does so amuse us. "Kane is the end boss of highsec." - what a joke...do you honestly think that belongs in your bio? Answer me something Veers..what have you done to make any difference in the game? What have you ACTUALLY done in game that has made a difference in any way. Keep in mind, being a forum troller doesn't count as in game. All of these people you constantly put down with your "holier than thou" attitude have actually made a difference to the game...unlike you. If you are as intelligent as you like to believe you are, you would know and see this. Running ones mouth on a forum does not make one important..nor does it make you matter. If you want to be taken seriously, and I mean this in all sincerity, do something in the game that actually makes a difference for someone besides yourself. THIS is what separates you from Feyd, from Kane, and from James. Like them or not, they have changed the game for more people than you ever will. How? By actually playing the game and inspiring incentive and action in their fellow players. Talk is cheap. Talk will not make you what you wish to be...action will..and let me tell you...action that matters is not taken on a forum. Step up your game Veers. Consider it a challenge...are you game..or are you just all talk? If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
March rabbit Federal Defense Union 1548	Posted - 2015.03.03 15:04:56 - [217] - Quote Kaely Tanniss wrote: Answer me something Veers..what have you done to make any difference in the game? What have you ACTUALLY done in game that has made a difference in any way. Keep in mind, being a forum troller doesn't count as in game. All of these people you constantly put down with your "holier than thou" attitude have actually made a difference to the game...unlike you. don't want to join troll-party but i'm really curious about Cannibal Kane. I'm in Eve since end of 2009 and been in many places. WH/0.0/low/high-sec. And i have never seen him or heard anything about him from people in the game. Only place i see him and people talking about him is forums. What did he actually do? How did he change the game? The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Estella Osoka Perkone Caldari State 538	Posted - 2015.03.03 15:57:17 - [218] - Quote Anyone who feels the need to get butthurt over ganking needs to remember that this is just a game. Heck, if I got ganked, I'd prolly just go get myself a gank ship and gank the ganker. People who worry over their spaceship pixels really need to get out of the house and get a real life.
Mark O'Helm Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt 39	Posted - 2015.03.03 16:23:31 - [219] - Quote Tear Jar wrote: Mark O'Helm wrote: But why then are there the Hulks and Macks for if not for mining and the choice to use it(ii love my hulks). And what honor is it, to take back permits if somebody take a break and dock up for a while, what was reported somewhere. And if it where legit, what you do i guess, concord would not shoot you. Sry 4 mi bat englisch. Hulks and mackinaws are for mining in null sec where you are safe. I heard null is a lonely place. Because where everybody can kill you, you are all the time in a rush. RL only works because of the safety of the law. Thats why most of the people stay in hs. Its what they know. You can play with strangers, make new friends through giving orca boost and can even chat if you are in a tanked skiff. I love my hulks, although i will rest them for good i guess, because of the 30 day trial i brought my parents(as alts) to the game. They are training right now for procurers while i make carreermissions to raise my standing at the empires. Btw. In Highsec with maxed orca boost i have to empty my hulks every 2 minutes. When i mine for 12 hours, that is stress enough. But in null with a rorqual(what i plan to fly someday) i imagine i would go crazy, with also looking for d-scan and not see the dictors. "Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen."(Zitat eines Singles) "Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind."(Zitat von einem, dem es egal ist)
Mark O'Helm Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt 39	Posted - 2015.03.03 16:28:07 - [220] - Quote Estella Osoka wrote: Anyone who feels the need to get butthurt over ganking needs to remember that this is just a game. Heck, if I got ganked, I'd prolly just go get myself a gank ship and gank the ganker. People who worry over their spaceship pixels really need to get out of the house and get a real life. Spaceships are pixels in a computer. RL is just signals in your brain, interpretated from the sensors of your body. With much better graphics and awesome immersion, but harscher laws and unextendable gametime. "Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen."(Zitat eines Singles) "Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind."(Zitat von einem, dem es egal ist)
Mark O'Helm Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt 39	Posted - 2015.03.03 17:56:25 - [221] - Quote Drez Arthie wrote: Mark O'Helm wrote: But why then are there the Hulks and Macks for if not for mining and the choice to use it(ii love my hulks). And what honor is it, to take back permits if somebody take a break and dock up for a while, what was reported somewhere. And if it where legit, what you do i guess, concord would not shoot you. Sry 4 mi bat englisch. Barge hatred has become pathological. Yes, gank a barge if there is profit, but to keep killing them for some sort of religious cause is just insane. Und du sprichst English sehr besser als ich Deutsch spreche ;) The line was almost perfect. But it's called "Englisch" in german and either way it's "besser als" or "sehr viel besser als". "Sehr besser" is wrong. Or is it called "very better" in english? That would be new to me. "Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen."(Zitat eines Singles) "Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind."(Zitat von einem, dem es egal ist)
Minmatar Citizen160812 The LGBT Last Supper 757	Posted - 2015.03.04 00:30:33 - [222] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: I am certainly different than Jamesie...his entire game revolved around hurting people, mine around helping them. Would you mind telling me how you have helped people? From what I can tell you're completely clueless beyond shooting red crosses so any help you think you gave was as worthless as you. I directed people toward Kane's old group and ran into them later to find they were trained and hardened low sec headbangers. He has results; you have bullshit flowing out of the hole that should be reserved for phallic objects.
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 968	Posted - 2015.03.04 00:45:13 - [223] - Quote Cannibal Kane wrote: Also, don't take what I say serious. If i ever met you in real life I would most likely just buy you a beer and talk and laugh about EVE. Ditto. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Tisiphone Dira New Order Logistics CODE. 146	Posted - 2015.03.04 03:09:23 - [224] - Quote March rabbit wrote: I'm really curious about Cannibal Kane. I'm in Eve since end of 2009 and been in many places. WH/0.0/low/high-sec. And i have never seen him or heard anything about him from people in the game. Only place i see him and people talking about him is forums. EXACTLY! Dum-Dum-Duuuuuuuum
Xion Gray Northen Star inc Stardust Underground 1	Posted - 2015.03.04 03:48:32 - [225] - Quote Wherever you are loyalanon, thanks for shaking things up Sorry for being late to the party, but I don't read up on the forums that very often. /cheers
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 542	Posted - 2015.03.04 04:37:35 - [226] - Quote Kaely Tanniss wrote: Answer me something Veers..what have you done to make any difference in the game? What have you ACTUALLY done in game that has made a difference in any way. Keep in mind, being a forum troller doesn't count as in game. All of these people you constantly put down with your "holier than thou" attitude have actually made a difference to the game...unlike you. If you are as intelligent as you like to believe you are, you would know and see this. Running ones mouth on a forum does not make one important..nor does it make you matter. If you want to be taken seriously, and I mean this in all sincerity, do something in the game that actually makes a difference for someone besides yourself. THIS is what separates you from Feyd, from Kane, from James, and others like them. Like them or not, they have changed the game for more people than you ever will. Though I have not personally flown with James or Kane, I have flown with Feyd and he is more of everything important about Eve than you will ever be. They have become the very essence of what Eve is all about whether you agree with their methods and ideology or not. How? By actually playing the game and inspiring incentive, initiative, and action in their fellow players. Talk is cheap. Talk will not make you what you wish to be...action will..and let me tell you...action that matters is not taken on a forum. Whining for change for others so you can look important like some sort of "hero" will not cut it. It seems that you are jealous of those you constantly hate on because they are what you are not...important, successful, and have a following that actually makes a difference, one way or another. Making claims that you are more intelligent and educated than someone else is ridiculous and easy to say in anonymity from the other side of a computer screen. You have no idea what education or intelligence someone else has and claiming you are somehow "better" is ludicrous. You spend your time playing a game like all of us. You can lie on a forum..but you can't lie to yourself. I can tell you about what I have done..what education I have, how much money I make, and how I've actually make a difference in peoples lives...but it does not matter in a game, it serves absolutely no purpose, and I do not need to make claims to be better than anyone else to feel important. Step up your game Veers. This is not an attack on you as a person, I'm sure in rl you are a nice person, but this is rather an objection to the words, and all they are are words, that you post on this forum in an attempt to satisfy your own narcissism. The truth is, you are far too new of a player to even have a clue of what Eve is all about. You have not been around long enough, or done enough to know the true diversity of Eve. Instead of hating on those who make a difference, do something. In all honesty, I'd like to see that...this is Eve, where you play to win. Consider it a challenge...are you game..or are you just talk? Wow...talk about a wall of text alert. I absolutely have an impact on the game - I accumulate wealth, I cooperate with other players, and I do my part to keep the market running effeciently. That is far more than griefers, or as they style themselves "content creators" do. Being evil is not an accomplishment. Smashing the snot out of highsec miners and haulers until they quit the game is not an accomplishment. Giggling while driving others into rage and tears is not an accomplishment. These, my dear, are vices, not virtues, and you would do well to observe the difference.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 542	Posted - 2015.03.04 04:40:20 - [227] - Quote Cannibal Kane wrote: I never promise anything nor have I ever stated I won anything. I just play and keep myself fairly reserved unless somebody is being an idiot. What I can say though I have inspired many players in this game through stories or just word of mouth. Quite a few players in merc corp came from my Somali BootCamp where we took new players into wars. If I had the time I would do that again since it was very successful. Those new player never though they could be that powerful when working together. Something you and your kind continuously say new players are not capable off. What have you done to deserve any respect other then troll posting on the forums? You say your are intelligent? Then start acting like you are otherwise you are going to stay that CODE Alt everybody believes you to be. As for my Bio... it was given to me. I like it so it stays. Also, don't take what I say serious. If i ever met you in real life I would most likely just buy you a beer and talk and laugh about EVE. Oh geez kane, back to the code alt accusations? Which one, pray tell, am I? James himself, or perhaps I am miss foxxie now? The delusional conspiracy theories do amuse me. I contribute to the game far more than you ever will. I generate wealth, I engaged in extensive commercial transactions, and do my part to promote market depth and efficiency. And I do it all without rage, without tears, and without costing CCP subscription revenue. What do you do exactly? Wardecc a pathetic highsec PvE corp, stomp their faces into the curb, and giggle as they all unsub? If you want to be a tough guy, join the Goons in nullsec.
Gerhard Stringfellow The Scope Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2015.03.04 04:50:33 - [228] - Quote I always figured CODE was just a goon proxy to influence hi-sec that turned out about as well as the Bay of Pigs in Cuba. You'd think declaring victory day in and day out would get exhausting after awhile.
Destiny Corrupted Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company 2816	Posted - 2015.03.04 06:36:35 - [229] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: and do my part to promote market depth and efficiency. Out of curiosity, can you elaborate on what you mean by that? I'd love to hear your take on what constitutes market efficiency, especially in a closed system. I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here: https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 73	Posted - 2015.03.04 07:23:17 - [230] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Wow...talk about a wall of text alert. I absolutely have an impact on the game - I accumulate wealth, I cooperate with other players, and I do my part to keep the market running effeciently. That is far more than griefers, or as they style themselves "content creators" do. Being evil is not an accomplishment. Smashing the snot out of highsec miners and haulers until they quit the game is not an accomplishment. Giggling while driving others into rage and tears is not an accomplishment. These, my dear, are vices, not virtues, and you would do well to observe the difference. Veers your writing is improving, much better than the old comments in the Minerbumping articles. I fear, though, that you are not the kind of rebel I hope to rally to save Highsec, but some sort of CODE. secret agent, maybe even James himself. But I hope otherwise. I hope that soon you along with other rebels who haven't accomplished any meaningful resistance will join me and make a real difference. I truly believe that together, you, me, thousands of highsec farmers, merchants, industrialists, miners- common folk, all sorts of players fed up with the tyranny will come together and we will achieve final victory. Supreme Commander of Highsec heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
Crawlblood Viziam Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2015.03.04 07:30:41 - [231] - Quote So..... Do we actually get a date for when your leaving or will this just go on indefinitely?
karma balancer The Conference Elite CODE. 2	Posted - 2015.03.04 07:47:23 - [232] - Quote I have never left and continue to turn your illegal mining equipment into isk for the new order ps target lists updated see you soon CODE ALWAYS WINS
Minmatar Citizen160812 The LGBT Last Supper 759	Posted - 2015.03.04 13:38:56 - [233] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: I contribute to the game far more than you ever will. I generate wealth, I engaged in extensive commercial transactions, and do my part to promote market depth and efficiency. In other words, you grind red crosses and sell the loot? A trained monkey can do that... I'll bet you're the best burger maker at McDonalds too because you don't make burgers. You make tasty delicacies delivered in a hurried pace that test even the most seasoned chefs while providing a rewarding experience to all the guests. (aka You're a burger flipper who follows a picture while the manager rips you off for hours and you're too delusional to notice.) I shall rename you McVeers Burgervar
Chenguang Hucel-Ge Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate 9	Posted - 2015.03.04 13:53:45 - [234] - Quote I just came here to say that EVE is a funny game. There are two ways to become rich: Rip off others or bot harder.
Sibyyl Gallente Federation 23615	Posted - 2015.03.04 15:39:32 - [235] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: squawking more squawking Steve Irwin voice Here we can see two CODE alts out in their natural habitat trying to communicate with each other. It's a complex mating ritual, where each bird has to flash its bright feathers and inflate their neck gland in the right way so that the other bird can recognize that they are the same species. Now these birds are quite ferocious and territorial so we don't want to get in there and disturb them. Shh.. Rush to danger, wind up nowhere Sabriz for CSM go go go
admiral root Red Galaxy 2450	Posted - 2015.03.04 19:52:27 - [236] - Quote The end is nigh! Marmite paid for another wardec against us. Oh, the humanity. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff \| No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that. Sabriz for CSM
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 972	Posted - 2015.03.04 19:56:44 - [237] - Quote Sibyyl wrote: Held der Finsternis wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: squawking more squawking Steve Irwin voice Here we can see two CODE alts out in their natural habitat trying to communicate with each other. It's a complex mating ritual, where each bird has to flash its bright feathers and inflate their neck gland in the right way so that the other bird can recognize that they are the same species. Now these birds are quite ferocious and territorial so we don't want to get in there and disturb them. Shh.. Even better when read in Steve Irwin actual voice. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 972	Posted - 2015.03.04 19:57:40 - [238] - Quote admiral root wrote: The end is nigh! Marmite paid for another wardec against us. Oh, the humanity. Woe is me! What shall we do? The end is nigh indeed! Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 1173	Posted - 2015.03.04 20:41:33 - [239] - Quote Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote: sheer comedic genius Does that make CODE the Hamburgular? nyuknyuknyuk Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Kaely Tanniss Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 274	Posted - 2015.03.04 21:08:20 - [240] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Kaely Tanniss wrote: Answer me something Veers..what have you done to make any difference in the game? What have you ACTUALLY done in game that has made a difference in any way. Keep in mind, being a forum troller doesn't count as in game. All of these people you constantly put down with your "holier than thou" attitude have actually made a difference to the game...unlike you. If you are as intelligent as you like to believe you are, you would know and see this. Running ones mouth on a forum does not make one important..nor does it make you matter. If you want to be taken seriously, and I mean this in all sincerity, do something in the game that actually makes a difference for someone besides yourself. THIS is what separates you from Feyd, from Kane, from James, and others like them. Like them or not, they have changed the game for more people than you ever will. Though I have not personally flown with James or Kane, I have flown with Feyd and he is more of everything important about Eve than you will ever be. They have become the very essence of what Eve is all about whether you agree with their methods and ideology or not. How? By actually playing the game and inspiring incentive, initiative, and action in their fellow players. Talk is cheap. Talk will not make you what you wish to be...action will..and let me tell you...action that matters is not taken on a forum. Whining for change for others so you can look important like some sort of "hero" will not cut it. It seems that you are jealous of those you constantly hate on because they are what you are not...important, successful, and have a following that actually makes a difference, one way or another. Making claims that you are more intelligent and educated than someone else is ridiculous and easy to say in anonymity from the other side of a computer screen. You have no idea what education or intelligence someone else has and claiming you are somehow "better" is ludicrous. You spend your time playing a game like all of us. You can lie on a forum..but you can't lie to yourself. I can tell you about what I have done..what education I have, how much money I make, and how I've actually make a difference in peoples lives...but it does not matter in a game, it serves absolutely no purpose, and I do not need to make claims to be better than anyone else to feel important. Step up your game Veers. This is not an attack on you as a person, I'm sure in rl you are a nice person, but this is rather an objection to the words, and all they are are words, that you post on this forum in an attempt to satisfy your own narcissism. The truth is, you are far too new of a player to even have a clue of what Eve is all about. You have not been around long enough, or done enough to know the true diversity of Eve. Instead of hating on those who make a difference, do something. In all honesty, I'd like to see that...this is Eve, where you play to win. Consider it a challenge...are you game..or are you just talk? Wow...talk about a wall of text alert. I absolutely have an impact on the game - I accumulate wealth, I cooperate with other players, and I do my part to keep the market running effeciently. That is far more than griefers, or as they style themselves "content creators" do. Being evil is not an accomplishment. Smashing the snot out of highsec miners and haulers until they quit the game is not an accomplishment. Giggling while driving others into rage and tears is not an accomplishment. These, my dear, are vices, not virtues, and you would do well to observe the difference. Oh do you...your in game wealth means nothing Veers. Again, you assume and think you're better than everyone else. You have no idea what I have in my wallet. Or what I do. Grief is a matter of opinion...you are either the predator or the prey and decide accordingly which you will be. I never once said I "giggle" at the losses of others. What i do "giggle" about is the audacity of someone who thinks more of themself than anyone else thinks of them. There's a word for that...try using your "boundless intellegence" to figure it out. I don't know where you get your undeserved sense of self importance, but I can assure you it's not from your vast achievements. Again, you prove my point that you are just talk. For a player that is JUST BARELY a year old, you sure think you know a lot. It reminds me of a teenager that thinks they know everything about the world yet doesn't have a clue what anything is really about. lol. Tell me Veers, what are your virtues? Game virtues...lol...that's laughable. I find it funny that all this time you have labeled me as a griefer...yet you have no idea what I do....so go ahead and keep on talking so everyone can continue to see you make a fool of yourself. Oh, and Veers, try talking normal...those who boast about and try too hard to sound intellegent, actually sound quite the opposite. Well...I suppose you will continue to attempt to be an uber forum warrior since you've no other way to be one...but then does the fool know he's a fool (or at least makinghimself look like one)? I do enjoy our little "talks" If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Tyyler DURden Mordechai and Sons Distribution Co. 68	Posted - 2015.03.05 03:23:49 - [241] - Quote admiral root wrote: The end is nigh! Marmite paid for another wardec against us. Oh, the humanity. So... you guys gonna get someone to come win this one for you like last time? Tyyler DURden says "use soap"
admiral root Red Galaxy 2454	Posted - 2015.03.05 04:17:51 - [242] - Quote Tyyler DURden wrote: admiral root wrote: The end is nigh! Marmite paid for another wardec against us. Oh, the humanity. So... you guys gonna get someone to come win this one for you like last time? A win is a win. Anyone who wardecs us is just content for the guys in our wardec corp. We don't actually care who wins or loses a particular war because the Code always wins. Always! Of course, if the chill dudes in BAW want in on this war, too, they're more than welcome! Here at the New Order, we're givers. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff \| No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that. Sabriz for CSM
ISD Ezwal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 3961	Posted - 2015.03.05 11:28:37 - [243] - Quote I have removed a rule breaking post and the quoting it. A little stabbing at each other is perfectly fine, it's Crime & Punishment after all. Taking it into real life however, is not. The Rules: 4. Personal attacks are prohibited. Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated. ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Tora Bushido EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 2023	Posted - 2015.03.05 11:46:52 - [244] - Quote admiral root wrote: The end is nigh! Marmite paid for another wardec against us. Oh, the humanity. Thank you for being evil. This war is a paid contract TORA FOR CSM X - A NEW HIGH-SEC YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - DELETE THE WEAK , ADAPT OR DIE !
Fybs Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective 321	Posted - 2015.03.05 12:41:45 - [245] - Quote Tengu Grib wrote: Sibyyl wrote: Held der Finsternis wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: squawking more squawking Steve Irwin voice Here we can see two CODE alts out in their natural habitat trying to communicate with each other. It's a complex mating ritual, where each bird has to flash its bright feathers and inflate their neck gland in the right way so that the other bird can recognize that they are the same species. Now these birds are quite ferocious and territorial so we don't want to get in there and disturb them. Shh.. Even better when read in Steve Irwin actual voice. Personally I think a David Attenborough voice suites it more Don't confuse kindness with weakness. Beware the hand of Fybs. Corp Advert: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0Je8JdIi8g&feature=youtu.be
Estella Osoka Perkone Caldari State 542	Posted - 2015.03.05 16:44:12 - [246] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Kaely Tanniss wrote: Answer me something Veers..what have you done to make any difference in the game? What have you ACTUALLY done in game that has made a difference in any way. Keep in mind, being a forum troller doesn't count as in game. All of these people you constantly put down with your "holier than thou" attitude have actually made a difference to the game...unlike you. If you are as intelligent as you like to believe you are, you would know and see this. Running ones mouth on a forum does not make one important..nor does it make you matter. If you want to be taken seriously, and I mean this in all sincerity, do something in the game that actually makes a difference for someone besides yourself. THIS is what separates you from Feyd, from Kane, from James, and others like them. Like them or not, they have changed the game for more people than you ever will. Though I have not personally flown with James or Kane, I have flown with Feyd and he is more of everything important about Eve than you will ever be. They have become the very essence of what Eve is all about whether you agree with their methods and ideology or not. How? By actually playing the game and inspiring incentive, initiative, and action in their fellow players. Talk is cheap. Talk will not make you what you wish to be...action will..and let me tell you...action that matters is not taken on a forum. Whining for change for others so you can look important like some sort of "hero" will not cut it. It seems that you are jealous of those you constantly hate on because they are what you are not...important, successful, and have a following that actually makes a difference, one way or another. Making claims that you are more intelligent and educated than someone else is ridiculous and easy to say in anonymity from the other side of a computer screen. You have no idea what education or intelligence someone else has and claiming you are somehow "better" is ludicrous. You spend your time playing a game like all of us. You can lie on a forum..but you can't lie to yourself. I can tell you about what I have done..what education I have, how much money I make, and how I've actually make a difference in peoples lives...but it does not matter in a game, it serves absolutely no purpose, and I do not need to make claims to be better than anyone else to feel important. Step up your game Veers. This is not an attack on you as a person, I'm sure in rl you are a nice person, but this is rather an objection to the words, and all they are are words, that you post on this forum in an attempt to satisfy your own narcissism. The truth is, you are far too new of a player to even have a clue of what Eve is all about. You have not been around long enough, or done enough to know the true diversity of Eve. Instead of hating on those who make a difference, do something. In all honesty, I'd like to see that...this is Eve, where you play to win. Consider it a challenge...are you game..or are you just talk? Wow...talk about a wall of text alert. I absolutely have an impact on the game - I accumulate wealth, I cooperate with other players, and I do my part to keep the market running effeciently. That is far more than griefers, or as they style themselves "content creators" do. Being evil is not an accomplishment. Smashing the snot out of highsec miners and haulers until they quit the game is not an accomplishment. Giggling while driving others into rage and tears is not an accomplishment. These, my dear, are vices, not virtues, and you would do well to observe the difference. Last I checked blowing up ships is what makes the market run efficiently.
Catalytic morphisis Disbanding As We Speak Already Disbanded 109	Posted - 2015.03.05 16:51:23 - [247] - Quote Estella Osoka wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Kaely Tanniss wrote: Answer me something Veers..what have you done to make any difference in the game? What have you ACTUALLY done in game that has made a difference in any way. Keep in mind, being a forum troller doesn't count as in game. All of these people you constantly put down with your "holier than thou" attitude have actually made a difference to the game...unlike you. If you are as intelligent as you like to believe you are, you would know and see this. Running ones mouth on a forum does not make one important..nor does it make you matter. If you want to be taken seriously, and I mean this in all sincerity, do something in the game that actually makes a difference for someone besides yourself. THIS is what separates you from Feyd, from Kane, from James, and others like them. Like them or not, they have changed the game for more people than you ever will. Though I have not personally flown with James or Kane, I have flown with Feyd and he is more of everything important about Eve than you will ever be. They have become the very essence of what Eve is all about whether you agree with their methods and ideology or not. How? By actually playing the game and inspiring incentive, initiative, and action in their fellow players. Talk is cheap. Talk will not make you what you wish to be...action will..and let me tell you...action that matters is not taken on a forum. Whining for change for others so you can look important like some sort of "hero" will not cut it. It seems that you are jealous of those you constantly hate on because they are what you are not...important, successful, and have a following that actually makes a difference, one way or another. Making claims that you are more intelligent and educated than someone else is ridiculous and easy to say in anonymity from the other side of a computer screen. You have no idea what education or intelligence someone else has and claiming you are somehow "better" is ludicrous. You spend your time playing a game like all of us. You can lie on a forum..but you can't lie to yourself. I can tell you about what I have done..what education I have, how much money I make, and how I've actually make a difference in peoples lives...but it does not matter in a game, it serves absolutely no purpose, and I do not need to make claims to be better than anyone else to feel important. Step up your game Veers. This is not an attack on you as a person, I'm sure in rl you are a nice person, but this is rather an objection to the words, and all they are are words, that you post on this forum in an attempt to satisfy your own narcissism. The truth is, you are far too new of a player to even have a clue of what Eve is all about. You have not been around long enough, or done enough to know the true diversity of Eve. Instead of hating on those who make a difference, do something. In all honesty, I'd like to see that...this is Eve, where you play to win. Consider it a challenge...are you game..or are you just talk? Wow...talk about a wall of text alert. I absolutely have an impact on the game - I accumulate wealth, I cooperate with other players, and I do my part to keep the market running effeciently. That is far more than griefers, or as they style themselves "content creators" do. Being evil is not an accomplishment. Smashing the snot out of highsec miners and haulers until they quit the game is not an accomplishment. Giggling while driving others into rage and tears is not an accomplishment. These, my dear, are vices, not virtues, and you would do well to observe the difference. Last I checked blowing up ships is what makes the market run efficiently. Imagine an Eve with no Splosions, What a boring and stale place it would be! Quad Boxing Trading Extroadinaire, Actual Link free solo PvP'er
Zealous Miner 64	Posted - 2015.03.05 17:02:37 - [248] - Quote Estella Osoka wrote: Last I checked blowing up ships is what makes the market run efficiently. Indeed. The carebear argument always boils down to: "If it weren't for us there wouldn't be any ships or modules being produced." Whereas any levelheaded player realizes that if it weren't for gankers there would be no demand for these things in the first place. Veers seems to assume that by printing and injecting ISK into the market from incursions he's helping to "keep it running efficiently" when all he's doing is helping to inflate it like a bunch of hot air and devaluing ISK even more. I voted for Sabriz Adoudel for CSM10. You should too. www.minerbumping.com
jurgen b Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2015.03.05 20:04:37 - [249] - Quote The piracy without loyalanon isnt the same anymore then, ok others take over but it's not the same. I have seen them a couple times in Ardallabier and brapelille inc john e norm and the soprano. They didnt seem that bad accoarding to the small chats i had with them on my alts in chat :) the people in that region had already adapted for a hugh part to the daily ganks. they created something there that was active gameplay. i think they created a active community in that region. people that protected eachother, formed mining fleets for links etc. and local chat was always bussy as well and even fun convo's going on between all the miners missions runners and them gankers in local. well at least when i was there. in my eyes they made difference in high sec in a more and fun way then i can describe war decs. what they did was true sandbox, appart from the political shite that is :) the gameplay will continue, but i dont think it can have the same immersion without loyalanon and john E normous and the loot dweiler soprano.
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 975	Posted - 2015.03.05 21:08:13 - [250] - Quote Fybs wrote: Tengu Grib wrote: Sibyyl wrote: Held der Finsternis wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: squawking more squawking Steve Irwin voice Here we can see two CODE alts out in their natural habitat trying to communicate with each other. It's a complex mating ritual, where each bird has to flash its bright feathers and inflate their neck gland in the right way so that the other bird can recognize that they are the same species. Now these birds are quite ferocious and territorial so we don't want to get in there and disturb them. Shh.. Even better when read in Steve Irwin actual voice. Personally I think a David Attenborough voice suites it more Hmm, that works too but it would be better with text adjusted to compensate. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 975	Posted - 2015.03.05 21:09:59 - [251] - Quote Catalytic morphisis wrote: Estella Osoka wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Wow...talk about a wall of text alert. I absolutely have an impact on the game - I accumulate wealth, I cooperate with other players, and I do my part to keep the market running effeciently. That is far more than griefers, or as they style themselves "content creators" do. Being evil is not an accomplishment. Smashing the snot out of highsec miners and haulers until they quit the game is not an accomplishment. Giggling while driving others into rage and tears is not an accomplishment. These, my dear, are vices, not virtues, and you would do well to observe the difference. Last I checked blowing up ships is what makes the market run efficiently. Imagine an Eve with no Splosions, What a boring and stale place it would be![/quote] Not only boring, but stagnant with a dead economy. Minerals would be worthless. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 23204	Posted - 2015.03.05 22:45:54 - [252] - Quote People please... Stop quoting veers, it makes the block posts function useless. If I wanted to read self aggrandising bollocks I'd follow a celebrity or politician on twatter. "Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 543	Posted - 2015.03.05 23:43:04 - [253] - Quote Destiny Corrupted wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: and do my part to promote market depth and efficiency. Out of curiosity, can you elaborate on what you mean by that? I'd love to hear your take on what constitutes market efficiency, especially in a closed system. Sure...market efficiency is when goods sell for the price where the supply and demand curves intersect. This means that goods should sell in a tight band around the natural price, with perhaps some premium to account for hauling to outlying areas. By actively buying and selling goods, I help stabilize prices, and create a more functional market.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 543	Posted - 2015.03.05 23:46:23 - [254] - Quote Zealous Miner wrote: Estella Osoka wrote: Last I checked blowing up ships is what makes the market run efficiently. Indeed. The carebear argument always boils down to: "If it weren't for us there wouldn't be any ships or modules being produced." Whereas any levelheaded player realizes that if it weren't for gankers there would be no demand for these things in the first place. Veers seems to assume that by printing and injecting ISK into the market from incursions he's helping to "keep it running efficiently" when all he's doing is helping to inflate it like a bunch of hot air and devaluing ISK even more. Veers is neither producing materials or creating a proportional demand for said materials. He's just printing ISK. This is a deeply confused understanding of market economics. Destruction is in no way necessary for value creation. It's funny how your own statements contradict each other. First you state that without destruction there would be no demand for goods, and predict a crash in prices, so deflation. Then you accuse me of "devaluing isk even more" implying that rampant inflation is taking place. Odd. The only way to maintain a price balance given growing production is to increase the money supply - as I do every time I play. That is true heroism, and how the good guys make the universe a better place.
Mark O'Helm Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt 40	Posted - 2015.03.05 23:56:13 - [255] - Quote I am a highsec ice miner and missionary. First i tried to seek adventures in EVE(as i knew from other games), but after the pve missions objectives repeated itself over and over i realized that EVE is about other things. It's about the community. And about ISK. Everything is about making money. It's a "War Economy" as Old Snake called it in Metal Gear Solid 4. I played that Game a lot and also watched the whole "8 hours" of cutscenes(at least. I counted it) more then i maybe should have. And what i saw in New Eden, what i read in the forums, in the PHB (Pilotenhandbuch/Pilothandbook) of Donaldo Duck http://dd.1o1o1o.de/phbv3/ (300pages, afask only in german) and in the ingame chats reminded me of what was said in MGS4. Everything we do, mine, refine, produce, sell or buy keeps the war on going. The few things i found, that are not useful for fighting other players or npcs like frozen food, water, soil, even different kinds of people you can buy and sell seem a bit worthless to me. What is sad, because i see potencial in it. But where is not, ey? (The door will never open) I don't like Code. I lost a few ships to you guys. I don't like bumpers. I also don't like afk miners and haulers and mining fleets with 20 skiffs(Even after the clear statement from CCP about the [miss]use of isboxer i tend to see them) But i like, that you care about the game, and that you want everybody to be activ and aware. Maybe you would like mining better, if it where more like this. http://youtu.be/7iroudUFGFM I think i would. Maybe i am honoring the code by doing so. But i will never pay the 10 Mill. ISK you want. I consider this racketeering. And i will always warn my fellow miners when i see you or other known gankers in local or in the killboard of the region i mine in. Btw. Code. is not the only strange content creator in the game. Did you heard of the "Goner Temple"? An Eve based religous corp about seeking the pass back to earth trough the EVE Gate. Fly safe and explode with pride. Ps. Sry 4 mi bat englisch. "Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen."(Zitat eines Singles) "Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind."(Zitat von einem, dem es egal ist)
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 23208	Posted - 2015.03.06 02:10:55 - [256] - Quote Mark O'Helm wrote: I am a highsec ice miner and missionary. First i tried to seek adventures in EVE(as i knew from other games), but after the pve missions objectives repeated itself over and over i realized that EVE is about other things. It's about the community. And about ISK. Everything is about making money. It's a "War Economy" as Old Snake called it in Metal Gear Solid 4. I played that Game a lot and also watched the whole "8 hours" of cutscenes(at least. I counted it) more then i maybe should have. And what i saw in New Eden, what i read in the forums, in the PHB (Pilotenhandbuch/Pilothandbook) of Donaldo Duck http://dd.1o1o1o.de/phbv3/ (300pages, afask only in german) and in the ingame chats reminded me of what was said in MGS4. Everything we do, mine, refine, produce, sell or buy keeps the war on going. The few things i found, that are not useful for fighting other players or npcs like frozen food, water, soil, even different kinds of people you can buy and sell seem a bit worthless to me. What is sad, because i see potencial in it. But where is not, ey? (The door will never open) You appear to get Eve, you should do well with that attitude. Quote: I don't like Code. I lost a few ships to you guys. I don't like bumpers. I also don't like afk miners and haulers and mining fleets with 20 skiffs(Even after the clear statement from CCP about the [miss]use of isboxer i tend to see them) That's fair enough, you don't have to like everybody or everything in the game. CODE. are actually nice folks for the most part once you get around the RP thing, I'd guess that you fit for tank over yield now? Bumping is a controversial mechanic, however it is a longstanding one that has legitimate uses, ganking being one. AFK miners and haulers may as well be NPC's for the amount of interaction they put into the game, gankers treat them as such. On the subject of 20 Skiff fleets, it is possible to multibox them with ISboxer without violating the recent EULA changes; they are like locusts though, they strip all of the things leaving nothing behind. Quote: But i like, that you care about the game, and that you want everybody to be activ and aware. This is why you'll do well here, you might not like what they do, but you recognise that it has some positives. Quote: Maybe i am honoring the code by doing so. But i will never pay the 10 Mill. ISK you want. I consider this racketeering. And i will always warn my fellow miners when i see you or other known gankers in local or in the killboard of the region i mine in. Totally fair, it is racketeering, an activity that is allowed in Eve. When you warn other miners you're doing it right, just out of interest how many ignore you and then explode? Quote: Btw. Code. is not the only strange content creator in the game. Did you heard of the "Goner Temple"? An Eve based religous corp about seeking the pass back to earth trough the EVE Gate. Fly safe and explode with pride. Ps. Sry 4 mi bat englisch. lol @ Goner Temple, never heard of it myself but that's certainly one way of playing Eve, it is an RPG after all. Don't worry about your English, it's way better than that of some native speakers and infinitely better than my German these days. "Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Zealous Miner 88	Posted - 2015.03.06 03:08:33 - [257] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Destruction is in no way necessary for value creation. It is in a world where nothing expires through natural means. Ships never get old. Modules never wear out. Not even abandoned Player Owned Starbases go bad. The only thing that is guaranteed to be destroyed (through usage) is ammunition, boosters, fuel, etc. Consumables. Veers Belvar wrote: It's funny how your own statements contradict each other. First you state that without destruction there would be no demand for goods, and predict a crash in prices, so deflation. Then you accuse me of "devaluing isk even more" implying that rampant inflation is taking place. The first statement is indeed correct. However, I never said anything about a crash in prices. Why? Because, destruction is still taking place at this very moment. Ships are still being destroyed. Modules are still being destroyed. Cargo is still being destroyed. The second statement is also correct. The only thing an incursion runner tends to "destroy" on a regular basis is ammunition. In return they receive piles of liquid ISK (money) many times greater than the value of the ammunition (resource) they consumed and the value of the Loyalty Points (resource) they acquired. All of this is achieved through a form of Player vs. Environment gameplay that by this point has been optimized for maximum efficiency. Incursions indeed contribute to inflation. Veers Belvar wrote: The only way to maintain a price balance given growing production is to increase the money supply - as I do every time I play. Sure. The only way to deal with overproduction is to just print and throw more ISK at it. We can't simply remove the overabundance of product by blowing up ships, modules, fuel, cargo, etc. because it's "mean" and "not nice." I voted for Sabriz Adoudel for CSM10. You should too. www.minerbumping.com
Sibyyl Gallente Federation 23650	Posted - 2015.03.06 03:21:54 - [258] - Quote Never trust the man generating ISK out of thin air about EVE market steady state stability. You can thank him for pointless inflation, but that's about all. Rush to danger, wind up nowhere Sabriz for CSM go go go
Mark O'Helm Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt 40	Posted - 2015.03.06 04:26:30 - [259] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: I'd guess that you fit for tank over yield now? Actually i love my two maxed yield hulks. They make 3 pieces of ice every minute each. But i also have two skiffs in the orca for a quick change, wich can do 2 pieces in 50 seconds. Quote: When you warn other miners you're doing it right, just out of interest how many ignore you and then explode? I don't know, if they ignore me or just cannot read my warning because afk. Happens too often. Quote: lol @ Goner Temple, never heard of it myself but that's certainly one way of playing Eve, it is an RPG after all. I have an alt in the temple myself who joins the eternal Journey to the Eve Gate. Everyday i play i first log in there and use the Loginjump to come closer to it. Sometimes i got luck and make a big step (1Mill. km)in almost the right direction. We have reached 21.4 Au from the stargate a few days ago. "Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen."(Zitat eines Singles) "Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind."(Zitat von einem, dem es egal ist)
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 543	Posted - 2015.03.06 04:29:52 - [260] - Quote Zealous Miner wrote: It is in a world where nothing expires through natural means. Ships never get old. Modules never wear out. Not even abandoned Player Owned Starbases go bad. The only thing that is guaranteed to be destroyed (through usage) is ammunition, boosters, fuel, etc. Consumables. The first statement is indeed correct. However, I never said anything about a crash in prices. Why? Because, destruction is still taking place at this very moment. Ships are still being destroyed. Modules are still being destroyed. Cargo is still being destroyed. The second statement is also correct. The only thing an incursion runner tends to "destroy" on a regular basis is ammunition. In return they receive piles of liquid ISK (money) many times greater than the value of the ammunition (resource) they consumed and the value of the Loyalty Points (resource) they acquired. All of this is achieved through a form of Player vs. Environment gameplay that by this point has been optimized for maximum efficiency. Incursions indeed contribute to inflation. Sure. The only way to deal with overproduction is to just print and throw more ISK at it. We can't simply remove the overabundance of product by blowing up ships, modules, fuel, cargo, etc. because it's "mean" and "not nice." Seriously confused about economics....what do you care if there is a lot of stuff at a certain price or less stuff at a certain price? I mean what is your boogeyman here, inflation or deflation? You seem to be blaming me for inflation in a deflationary environment....grrr veers...grrr incursions....but come on man, at least be consistent.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 543	Posted - 2015.03.06 04:30:45 - [261] - Quote Sibyyl wrote: Never trust the man generating ISK out of thin air about EVE market steady state stability. You can thank him for pointless inflation, but that's about all. Could you give me an example of this "pointless inflation?"
Mark O'Helm Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt 40	Posted - 2015.03.06 04:36:43 - [262] - Quote Sibyyl wrote: Never trust the man generating ISK out of thin air about EVE market steady state stability. You can thank him for pointless inflation, but that's about all. Normally this is a big problem for a rl economy. Printing money makes it worthless. But isnt that what all missioners and ratters do all day? It have to be Billions of Isk what is generated every day out of nothing that way. How can this work, and not cause an immens inflation every day? It's a trick i guess. Like spawning billions of m3 of asteroids every downtime, what would normally take mill. of years to happen. Even in the year 23000 creating ore out of nowhere will not be doable, i guess. "Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen."(Zitat eines Singles) "Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind."(Zitat von einem, dem es egal ist)
Waltaratzor Aliastra Gallente Federation 38	Posted - 2015.03.06 05:17:41 - [263] - Quote Mark O'Helm wrote: Sibyyl wrote: Never trust the man generating ISK out of thin air about EVE market steady state stability. You can thank him for pointless inflation, but that's about all. Normally this is a big problem for a rl economy. Printing money makes it worthless. But isnt that what all missioners and ratters do all day? It have to be Billions of Isk what is generated every day out of nothing that way. How can this work, and not cause an immens inflation every day? It's a trick i guess. Like spawning billions of m3 of asteroids every downtime, what would normally take mill. of years to happen. Even in the year 23000 creating ore out of nowhere will not be doable, i guess. In Eve the isk is eliminated through isk sinks(trading, implants, mission rewards). Ultimately though it relies on stuff being destroyed.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 543	Posted - 2015.03.06 05:21:05 - [264] - Quote Waltaratzor wrote: Mark O'Helm wrote: Sibyyl wrote: Never trust the man generating ISK out of thin air about EVE market steady state stability. You can thank him for pointless inflation, but that's about all. Normally this is a big problem for a rl economy. Printing money makes it worthless. But isnt that what all missioners and ratters do all day? It have to be Billions of Isk what is generated every day out of nothing that way. How can this work, and not cause an immens inflation every day? It's a trick i guess. Like spawning billions of m3 of asteroids every downtime, what would normally take mill. of years to happen. Even in the year 23000 creating ore out of nowhere will not be doable, i guess. In Eve the isk is eliminated through isk sinks(trading, implants, mission rewards). Ultimately though it relies on stuff being destroyed. lol, no, it relies in stuff being created. deflation is happening because much more stuff is created than destroyed.
Mark O'Helm Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt 40	Posted - 2015.03.06 05:39:52 - [265] - Quote Waltaratzor wrote: In Eve the isk is eliminated through isk sinks(trading, implants, mission rewards). I don't buy implants very often. Nore do people who do often pvp imo, because of podding. And how can mission rewards be isk sinks when they generate isk? "Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen."(Zitat eines Singles) "Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind."(Zitat von einem, dem es egal ist)
Sibyyl Gallente Federation 23654	Posted - 2015.03.06 05:48:39 - [266] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Sibyyl wrote: Never trust the man generating ISK out of thin air about EVE market steady state stability. You can thank him for pointless inflation, but that's about all. Could you give me an example of this "pointless inflation?" "Pointless" means having no use or purpose. "Pointless" also means having no significant effect one way or the other. Your assertion that somehow your contributions are a net positive don't appear to reference any theoretical trade volume, or correlating economic theory (yes, I know you type a lot of words that look academic). Your sense of importance, in the economic sphere, appears to be overblown. On the other hand, CODE. does appear to have a measurable social impact in the game. Rush to danger, wind up nowhere Sabriz for CSM go go go
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 23212	Posted - 2015.03.06 12:55:53 - [267] - Quote Sibyyl wrote: Your sense of importance ~~, in the economic sphere,~~ appears to be overblown. FTFY Quote: On the other hand, CODE. does appear to have a measurable social impact in the game. He does have a measurable social impact, just not the one that he thinks or wants "Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 1356	Posted - 2015.03.06 13:17:55 - [268] - Quote Yes, I had a similar social impact about twenty years ago when I aired 'Urotsukidoji' at a party full of mixed company. Many STILL bear scars from that night. It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 23213	Posted - 2015.03.06 13:28:50 - [269] - Quote Omar Alharazaad wrote: Yes, I had a similar social impact about twenty years ago when I aired 'Urotsukidoji' at a party full of mixed company. Many STILL bear scars from that night. Hah haven't seen Legend of the Overfiend or Legend of the Demon Womb in years, Doomed Megalopolis was pretty good too. "Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Estella Osoka Perkone Caldari State 546	Posted - 2015.03.06 15:56:24 - [270] - Quote Geez. It's called supply and demand. Read a book or google it FFS.
Sibyyl Gallente Federation 23664	Posted - 2015.03.06 16:51:58 - [271] - Quote This thread is now about tentacle sex. Rush to danger, wind up nowhere Sabriz for CSM go go go
Paranoid Loyd 4047	Posted - 2015.03.06 16:56:20 - [272] - Quote I'll try anything at least once. "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata Fix the Prospect!!!
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 976	Posted - 2015.03.06 17:04:40 - [273] - Quote I feel like it's an improvement. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 976	Posted - 2015.03.06 17:07:34 - [274] - Quote Mark O'Helm wrote: Waltaratzor wrote: In Eve the isk is eliminated through isk sinks(trading, implants, mission rewards). I don't buy implants very often. Nore do people who do often pvp imo, because of podding. And how can mission rewards be isk sinks when they generate isk? I think (I'm just guessing here) that he's talking about when you trade isk combined with LP in order to obtain LP goods. That being said I'm sure that is such a minute amount of isk that it's effects are not significant. I could be wrong though. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Vapor Ventrillian The Scope Gallente Federation 708	Posted - 2015.03.08 04:57:21 - [275] - Quote I have spoken to loyal and he seems like a decent chap but we disagreed one thing - ganking and its purpose it is a weird place I find myself ... worried about the the OP while in the same breath enjoying the weakening of the code self delusion Veers do you understand that you are the most effective weapon in the code arsenal? and I say this as a A.G The Evil Overlord of Scope, self elected as all good overlords should be
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 545	Posted - 2015.03.08 05:36:14 - [276] - Quote Vapor Ventrillian wrote: I have spoken to loyal and he seems like a decent chap but we disagreed one thing - ganking and its purpose it is a weird place I find myself ... worried about the the OP while in the same breath enjoying the weakening of the code self delusion Veers do you understand that you are the most effective weapon in the code arsenal? and I say this as a A.G While I agree that having a superb opponent such as myself is certainly Code's #1 achievement in the game...none can deny that their organization is crumbling, and is in its final death spiral. And let me tell you, that wasn't due to AG (whose own mod, Gorila Venzaga, turned out, to the shock of many (myself not included of course), to be a secret CODE spy), or to Marmite (who failed miserably to stop Code, and made themselves look foolish in the process), or to the various ragtag anti-gank fleets (which all failed miserably, and were often led by code spy Gorila), or to all the failed wardeccs, the idiotic bounties, or the various comically incompetence anti-code alliances. What stopped Code? What stopped them was decent people (led by mysefl), who stood up against the griefing, the tear collection, the real life harassment, the inducement of rage, the endless curbstomping of pathetic miners and haulers, and all the other vicissitudes that code stands for. Shining a bright light on people doing very bad things has a tendency to put a stop to it. Sure, some may credit CCP and their crackdowns on this behavior, but I beg to differ. Code wasn't toppled by game mechanics changes or bans for harassment, code fell because its own leadership started to question its role in the game, the morality of its underlying behavior, and whether constant suicide ganking to generate rage and tears is an activity that decent people would be engaged in. One by one its leaders have faced those questions, and quite rightly opted to retire from Eve life. And that, sir, is the greatest victory a man can achieve. Not defeating your opponents in battle (when they can replace their losses and return another day), but rather defeating them in the war of ideas of values, and getting them to voluntarily abandon their own positions. That is what Veers has accomplished but AG never has - getting code to see why their campaign of unrestricted suicide ganking is fundamentally bad for Eve, and should be terminated. And not just getting them to see that, but actually getting them to act on it. When all you have left is John E Normus (get it? not funny) and Miss Foxxie, you really have hit rock bottom. They might as well rename it the code organization for the love and cuddling of pink teddy bears and barbie dolls. So yes, let them keep spouting their lie that I am their best recruiting tool, etc...It's a falsehood they will clutch to as they slowly descend 6 feet under.
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 1174	Posted - 2015.03.08 06:16:48 - [277] - Quote But you didn't stop CODE, Veersie. You haven't even come close. I like this strange fantasy world he lives in, and no, I'm not talking about EVE. It's like watching Baghdad Bob announcing how the US attack is failing utterly, while you can see US tanks driving by in the background........... Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 545	Posted - 2015.03.08 06:18:39 - [278] - Quote Mike Adoulin wrote: But you didn't stop CODE, Veersie. You haven't even come close. I like this strange fantasy world he lives in, and no, I'm not talking about EVE. It's like watching Baghdad Bob announcing how the US attack is failing utterly, while you can see US tanks driving by in the background........... Code activity has cratered...they barely have enough dps to blow up a venture anymore. Their gank fleets are as well attended as meetings of the flat earth society.
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 1174	Posted - 2015.03.08 06:19:47 - [279] - Quote Oh, and on a side note..... Gorila wasn't a spai, or anything else. From what I've been told, his main reason for defecting was having to put up with YOU. roflmao Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 545	Posted - 2015.03.08 06:22:34 - [280] - Quote Mike Adoulin wrote: Oh, and on a side note..... Gorila wasn't a spai, or anything else. From what I've been told, his main reason for defecting was having to put up with YOU. roflmao No, I simply properly diagnosed his frequent bouts of rage as being fundamentally incompatible with being an ardent opponent of suicide ganking. His underlying pathology existed well before I came on the scene, and should have been obvious to AG leadership. Once again, Veers sees where others see naught.
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 1174	Posted - 2015.03.08 06:23:07 - [281] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: drivel. oh noes!!! Or maybe.....I know this is rough for you.......maybe......some people have lives outside the game? Yes...imagine that....people....doing something else...besides EVE. For awhile, in any event. You didn't stop anything. roflmao Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 1174	Posted - 2015.03.08 06:24:12 - [282] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: more drivel. roflmao You didn't 'diagnose' anything, either. roflmao Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 545	Posted - 2015.03.08 06:24:58 - [283] - Quote Mike Adoulin wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: drivel. oh noes!!! Or maybe.....I know this is rough for you.......maybe......some people have lives outside the game? Yes...imagine that....people....doing something else...besides EVE. For awhile, in any event. You didn't stop anything. roflmao Yes, much like politicians caught in scandal suddenly decide that they have a life outside of politics to attend to. The excuses are legion while the reality is singular. Code leadership has left the game, Veers remains same as ever. To whom does victory accrue?
Mortlake Somalian Coast Guard Authority 260	Posted - 2015.03.08 08:04:13 - [284] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Veers remains same as ever. Son, that's not something that you should be smug about.
Kaely Tanniss Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 274	Posted - 2015.03.08 10:56:13 - [285] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Vapor Ventrillian wrote: I have spoken to loyal and he seems like a decent chap but we disagreed one thing - ganking and its purpose it is a weird place I find myself ... worried about the the OP while in the same breath enjoying the weakening of the code self delusion Veers do you understand that you are the most effective weapon in the code arsenal? and I say this as a A.G While I agree that having a superb opponent such as myself is certainly Code's #1 achievement in the game...none can deny that their organization is crumbling, and is in its final death spiral. And let me tell you, that wasn't due to AG (whose own mod, Gorila Venzaga, turned out, to the shock of many (myself not included of course), to be a secret CODE spy), or to Marmite (who failed miserably to stop Code, and made themselves look foolish in the process), or to the various ragtag anti-gank fleets (which all failed miserably, and were often led by code spy Gorila), or to all the failed wardeccs, the idiotic bounties, or the various comically incompetence anti-code alliances. What stopped Code? What stopped them was decent people (led by mysefl), who stood up against the griefing, the tear collection, the real life harassment, the inducement of rage, the endless curbstomping of pathetic miners and haulers, and all the other vicissitudes that code stands for. Shining a bright light on people doing very bad things has a tendency to put a stop to it. Sure, some may credit CCP and their crackdowns on this behavior, but I beg to differ. Code wasn't toppled by game mechanics changes or bans for harassment, code fell because its own leadership started to question its role in the game, the morality of its underlying behavior, and whether constant suicide ganking to generate rage and tears is an activity that decent people would be engaged in. One by one its leaders have faced those questions, and quite rightly opted to retire from Eve life. And that, sir, is the greatest victory a man can achieve. Not defeating your opponents in battle (when they can replace their losses and return another day), but rather defeating them in the war of ideas of values, and getting them to voluntarily abandon their own positions. That is what Veers has accomplished but AG never has - getting code to see why their campaign of unrestricted suicide ganking is fundamentally bad for Eve, and should be terminated. And not just getting them to see that, but actually getting them to act on it. When all you have left is John E Normus (get it? not funny) and Miss Foxxie, you really have hit rock bottom. They might as well rename it the code organization for the love and cuddling of pink teddy bears and barbie dolls. So yes, let them keep spouting their lie that I am their best recruiting tool, etc...It's a falsehood they will clutch to as they slowly descend 6 feet under. Veers...you are the only one in denial thinking that somehow the code is dying. You wouldn't know anything about eve if it sat on your face and started to wiggle. You have a truly skewed vision of what is really going on...not to mention your own self worth. So troll on...since it's the only thing that gives you any remote sense of validity. Also...you better pray, or whatever you do, that someday code doesn't die...because then you will return to obscurity and mean absolutely nothing again...since it is code that gave you your sense of purpose to begin with. Remember..there can't be one without the other..what will you whine about if code were to be gone? Oh noes!!! ...but I'm sure you'll find something to feed your undeserved sense of importance and worth. If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Concord Guy's Cousin State War Academy Caldari State 655	Posted - 2015.03.08 13:39:59 - [286] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: While I agree that having a superb opponent such as myself is certainly Code's #1 achievement in the game...none can deny that their organization is crumbling, and is in its final death spiral. And let me tell you, that wasn't due to AG (whose own mod, Gorila Venzaga, turned out, to the shock of many (myself not included of course), to be a secret CODE spy), or to Marmite (who failed miserably to stop Code, and made themselves look foolish in the process), or to the various ragtag anti-gank fleets (which all failed miserably, and were often led by code spy Gorila), or to all the failed wardeccs, the idiotic bounties, or the various comically incompetence anti-code alliances. What stopped Code? What stopped them was decent people (led by mysefl), who stood up against the griefing, the tear collection, the real life harassment, the inducement of rage, the endless curbstomping of pathetic miners and haulers, and all the other vicissitudes that code stands for. Shining a bright light on people doing very bad things has a tendency to put a stop to it. Sure, some may credit CCP and their crackdowns on this behavior, but I beg to differ. Code wasn't toppled by game mechanics changes or bans for harassment, code fell because its own leadership started to question its role in the game, the morality of its underlying behavior, and whether constant suicide ganking to generate rage and tears is an activity that decent people would be engaged in. One by one its leaders have faced those questions, and quite rightly opted to retire from Eve life. And that, sir, is the greatest victory a man can achieve. Not defeating your opponents in battle (when they can replace their losses and return another day), but rather defeating them in the war of ideas of values, and getting them to voluntarily abandon their own positions. That is what Veers has accomplished but AG never has - getting code to see why their campaign of unrestricted suicide ganking is fundamentally bad for Eve, and should be terminated. And not just getting them to see that, but actually getting them to act on it. When all you have left is John E Normus (get it? not funny) and Miss Foxxie, you really have hit rock bottom. They might as well rename it the code organization for the love and cuddling of pink teddy bears and barbie dolls. So yes, let them keep spouting their lie that I am their best recruiting tool, etc...It's a falsehood they will clutch to as they slowly descend 6 feet under. The last time I saw a pile of shite this big it had just been pushed through the tail end of an Elephants digestive system. The only person that believes you led anything is yourself, your sense of self importance demands that you take credit regardless. Einstein had something to say about people like you: Ego=1/Knowledge More the knowledge lesser the ego, lesser the knowledge more the ego. ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries" NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 545	Posted - 2015.03.08 14:51:11 - [287] - Quote Kaely Tanniss wrote: [quote=Veers Belvar] Veers...you are the only one in denial thinking that somehow the code is dying. You wouldn't know anything about eve if it sat on your face and started to wiggle. You have a truly skewed vision of what is really going on...not to mention your own self worth. So troll on...since it's the only thing that gives you any remote sense of validity. Also...you better pray, or whatever you do, that someday code doesn't die...because then you will return to obscurity and mean absolutely nothing again...since it is code that gave you your sense of purpose to begin with. Remember..there can't be one without the other..what will you whine about if code were to be gone? Oh noes!!! ...but I'm sure you'll find something to feed your undeserved sense of importance and worth. Check killboard activity...fallen off a cliff. We live in a world of objective evidence, not bald faced assertion.
Chenguang Hucel-Ge Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate 11	Posted - 2015.03.08 18:14:34 - [288] - Quote While Veers is full of trash as usual, he got one (Too bad that it's only one) thing right. Do nothing AGAINST them. Just do stuff for YOURSELF. That's the way to do anything. Because hell, if you do something against, you are designed to lose when opposition withdraws.
Kaely Tanniss Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 276	Posted - 2015.03.08 21:34:39 - [289] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Kaely Tanniss wrote: Veers...you are the only one in denial thinking that somehow the code is dying. You wouldn't know anything about eve if it sat on your face and started to wiggle. You have a truly skewed vision of what is really going on...not to mention your own self worth. So troll on...since it's the only thing that gives you any remote sense of validity. Also...you better pray, or whatever you do, that someday code doesn't die...because then you will return to obscurity and mean absolutely nothing again...since it is code that gave you your sense of purpose to begin with. Remember..there can't be one without the other..what will you whine about if code were to be gone? Oh noes!!! ...but I'm sure you'll find something to feed your undeserved sense of importance and worth. Check killboard activity...fallen off a cliff. We live in a world of objective evidence, not bald faced assertion. FYI Mr. all knowing Veers, The Code alliance is but a small part of the vast network of players and corps that make up the New Order...so your theory is once again....flawed. If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 546	Posted - 2015.03.08 21:40:15 - [290] - Quote Kaely Tanniss wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Kaely Tanniss wrote: Veers...you are the only one in denial thinking that somehow the code is dying. You wouldn't know anything about eve if it sat on your face and started to wiggle. You have a truly skewed vision of what is really going on...not to mention your own self worth. So troll on...since it's the only thing that gives you any remote sense of validity. Also...you better pray, or whatever you do, that someday code doesn't die...because then you will return to obscurity and mean absolutely nothing again...since it is code that gave you your sense of purpose to begin with. Remember..there can't be one without the other..what will you whine about if code were to be gone? Oh noes!!! ...but I'm sure you'll find something to feed your undeserved sense of importance and worth. Check killboard activity...fallen off a cliff. We live in a world of objective evidence, not bald faced assertion. FYI Mr. all knowing Veers, The Code alliance is but a small part of the vast network of players and corps that make up the New Order...so your theory is once again....flawed. Where do you get your material from? You could blow away most stand up comics. Code was a huge part of the new order, and responsible for a vast majority of the kills. Their activity has fallen to unprecedented lows, and has not been replaced in any notable measure by the activity of others. Face it, Miss Kaely, your side is losing, the new order is collapsing, and highsec PvE player just keep on winning.
Lettie Slapdash S.O.E Strike Force 1021	Posted - 2015.03.08 23:57:07 - [291] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: between this, Feyd going to null, and Cannibal Kane mostly going inactive, highsec griefing may be over. Veers always wins! http://www.minerbumping.com/2015/02/highsec-miner-grab-bag-72.html?showComment=1423419940758#c5043912067282719038 (08.02.2015 16:25:07) redacted: Hello everyone, This is a mail regarding my departure from Eve. Its been a good 2 years with the New Order of High Sec/Code Alliance and I have come to make alot of good friends/enemies in this game. I would like to thank everyone for there support and in the help in us achieving some great things while being a part of the New Order. For me though it is time for me to concentrate on real life and my family hence why I am leaving Eve. I would like to say a big shout out to John E Normus and Capt Starfox for always being around when we were going through spaceship dramas and the countless hours/days we spent pvping miners. To The Conference Elite pilots thankyou for making TCE one of the greatest corps in all of eve and I am sure you will still carry the banner for months to come. I am incredibly proud of what we have all achieved in Eve, and for helping me shove carebear tears up CCP's xxxxx whenever they tried to nerf our playstyle. It has been an amazing journey through friendships, carebear tears, ts rage, milestones etc but for me real life comes first. I can be reached on redacted if anyone wants to catch up at anytime, Also please feel free to mail me if any of you come to New Zealand. To our Saviour James 315, keep rocking on, I will forever be grateful in your belief in me, and in your help that you have given me throughout the last year and a half, it has truly been a pleasure. To someone in goons can you please pass this message onto all of Mini-luv. Thankyou all o/ loyalanon PS - I will occassionally jump on however I wont be on everyday/week etc. No one cares. CODE is a joke, always has been and always will be, you have done nothing to eve, nothing any other nullsec alliance doesnt do to each other, u didn't drive prices up like u promised, you didn't kill of high sec mining, you didn't even make a dent in eve Your head = Up your ass Pull it out n gtfo
Kaely Tanniss Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 276	Posted - 2015.03.09 00:20:47 - [292] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Kaely Tanniss wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Kaely Tanniss wrote: Veers...you are the only one in denial thinking that somehow the code is dying. You wouldn't know anything about eve if it sat on your face and started to wiggle. You have a truly skewed vision of what is really going on...not to mention your own self worth. So troll on...since it's the only thing that gives you any remote sense of validity. Also...you better pray, or whatever you do, that someday code doesn't die...because then you will return to obscurity and mean absolutely nothing again...since it is code that gave you your sense of purpose to begin with. Remember..there can't be one without the other..what will you whine about if code were to be gone? Oh noes!!! ...but I'm sure you'll find something to feed your undeserved sense of importance and worth. Check killboard activity...fallen off a cliff. We live in a world of objective evidence, not bald faced assertion. FYI Mr. all knowing Veers, The Code alliance is but a small part of the vast network of players and corps that make up the New Order...so your theory is once again....flawed. Where do you get your material from? You could blow away most stand up comics. Code was a huge part of the new order, and responsible for a vast majority of the kills. Their activity has fallen to unprecedented lows, and has not been replaced in any notable measure by the activity of others. Face it, Miss Kaely, your side is losing, the new order is collapsing, and highsec PvE player just keep on winning. Sure Veers....you know all..lol. I'm not even going to dignify that with a response..as your comprehension skills don't allow for the assimilation of fact..only belief and rubbish. So, Mr eve guru...keep fooling yourself and we will keep laughing at you. See...you do serve some purpose. If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Tora Bushido EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 2033	Posted - 2015.03.09 08:16:28 - [293] - Quote Oops ? http://www.themittani.com/news/250b-isk-stolen-goonswarm%E2%80%99s-ministry-love TORA FOR CSM X - A NEW HIGH-SEC YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - DELETE THE WEAK , ADAPT OR DIE !
admiral root Red Galaxy 2474	Posted - 2015.03.09 10:44:44 - [294] - Quote Definte oops - you posted in the wrong thread. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff \| No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that. Sabriz for CSM
Azov Rassau Neo CONCORD 180	Posted - 2015.03.09 10:57:44 - [295] - Quote Tora Bushido wrote: Oops ? http://www.themittani.com/news/250b-isk-stolen-goonswarm%E2%80%99s-ministry-love Just another example of what EVE can be. Congrats to Globby for this Hyperstealing. Veers Belvar wrote: Yes, much like politicians caught in scandal suddenly decide that they have a life outside of politics to attend to. The excuses are legion while the reality is singular. Code leadership has left the game, Veers remains same as ever. To whom does victory accrue? Veers, calm down. No AFKing. Safety First. Use D-Scan, Check Local. Be Alert. www.GankerJamming.com Need your stuff moved? Join channel [HC] Haulers Hub or make a cool private contract to Red Frog Freight!
Anne Dieu-le-veut Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People 163	Posted - 2015.03.09 12:36:44 - [296] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Where do you get your material from? You could blow away most stand up comics. Code was a huge part of the new order, and responsible for a vast majority of the kills. Their activity has fallen to unprecedented lows, and has not been replaced in any notable measure by the activity of others. Face it, Miss Kaely, your side is losing, the new order is collapsing, and highsec PvE player just keep on winning. A quick look at eve-kill shows, as usual, you're full of it. Yeah, they dropped off from January, but they still did 653B in damage in February...more than they've done in 18 other months since Jan 2013, and their 8th highest total.
admiral root Red Galaxy 2476	Posted - 2015.03.09 15:41:37 - [297] - Quote Anne Dieu-le-veut wrote: A quick look at eve-kill shows, as usual, you're full of it. Yeah, they dropped off from January, but they still did 653B in damage in February...more than they've done in 18 other months since Jan 2013, and their 8th highest total. Get out, and take your facts with you. This is now a Veers poop-posting thread. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff \| No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that. Sabriz for CSM
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 23224	Posted - 2015.03.09 16:16:47 - [298] - Quote admiral root wrote: Anne Dieu-le-veut wrote: A quick look at eve-kill shows, as usual, you're full of it. Yeah, they dropped off from January, but they still did 653B in damage in February...more than they've done in 18 other months since Jan 2013, and their 8th highest total. Get out, and take your facts with you. ITT motorcycle chariot racing is more relevant than facts Quote: This is now a Veers poop-posting thread. It always was... "Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 546	Posted - 2015.03.10 04:31:08 - [299] - Quote Anne Dieu-le-veut wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Where do you get your material from? You could blow away most stand up comics. Code was a huge part of the new order, and responsible for a vast majority of the kills. Their activity has fallen to unprecedented lows, and has not been replaced in any notable measure by the activity of others. Face it, Miss Kaely, your side is losing, the new order is collapsing, and highsec PvE player just keep on winning. A quick look at eve-kill shows, as usual, you're full of it. Yeah, they dropped off from January, but they still did 653B in damage in February...more than they've done in 18 other months since Jan 2013, and their 8th highest total. Please tell me you didn't just add up the zkill totals....if you look at the actual fleets doing the ganking you will see that code members make up a tiny fraction of the fleet comp...learn to dewhore kills.
Kaely Tanniss Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 277	Posted - 2015.03.10 04:41:55 - [300] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Anne Dieu-le-veut wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Where do you get your material from? You could blow away most stand up comics. Code was a huge part of the new order, and responsible for a vast majority of the kills. Their activity has fallen to unprecedented lows, and has not been replaced in any notable measure by the activity of others. Face it, Miss Kaely, your side is losing, the new order is collapsing, and highsec PvE player just keep on winning. A quick look at eve-kill shows, as usual, you're full of it. Yeah, they dropped off from January, but they still did 653B in damage in February...more than they've done in 18 other months since Jan 2013, and their 8th highest total. Please tell me you didn't just add up the zkill totals....if you look at the actual fleets doing the ganking you will see that code members make up a tiny fraction of the fleet comp...learn to dewhore kills. Wow..I'm going to try to say it as slow as possible so you can soak it in slowly. The Code alliance itself only makes up a small percentage of the New Order. Now read it slow...one more time. Get it that time? If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 546	Posted - 2015.03.10 04:48:01 - [301] - Quote Kaely Tanniss wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Anne Dieu-le-veut wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Where do you get your material from? You could blow away most stand up comics. Code was a huge part of the new order, and responsible for a vast majority of the kills. Their activity has fallen to unprecedented lows, and has not been replaced in any notable measure by the activity of others. Face it, Miss Kaely, your side is losing, the new order is collapsing, and highsec PvE player just keep on winning. A quick look at eve-kill shows, as usual, you're full of it. Yeah, they dropped off from January, but they still did 653B in damage in February...more than they've done in 18 other months since Jan 2013, and their 8th highest total. Please tell me you didn't just add up the zkill totals....if you look at the actual fleets doing the ganking you will see that code members make up a tiny fraction of the fleet comp...learn to dewhore kills. Wow..I'm going to try to say it as slow as possible so you can soak it in slowly. The Code alliance itself only makes up a small percentage of the New Order. Now read it slow...one more time. Get it that time? Thanks Miss Holmes. Now let me say something very slowly to you. Code used to have a lot more pilots and generate a lot more kills on their own. Due to a staggering drop in numbers, they are reduced to being little more than spectators in the gank fleets of others.
Kaely Tanniss Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 277	Posted - 2015.03.10 04:57:14 - [302] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Kaely Tanniss wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Anne Dieu-le-veut wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Where do you get your material from? You could blow away most stand up comics. Code was a huge part of the new order, and responsible for a vast majority of the kills. Their activity has fallen to unprecedented lows, and has not been replaced in any notable measure by the activity of others. Face it, Miss Kaely, your side is losing, the new order is collapsing, and highsec PvE player just keep on winning. A quick look at eve-kill shows, as usual, you're full of it. Yeah, they dropped off from January, but they still did 653B in damage in February...more than they've done in 18 other months since Jan 2013, and their 8th highest total. Please tell me you didn't just add up the zkill totals....if you look at the actual fleets doing the ganking you will see that code members make up a tiny fraction of the fleet comp...learn to dewhore kills. Wow..I'm going to try to say it as slow as possible so you can soak it in slowly. The Code alliance itself only makes up a small percentage of the New Order. Now read it slow...one more time. Get it that time? Thanks Miss Holmes. Now let me say something very slowly to you. Code used to have a lot more pilots and generate a lot more kills on their own. Due to a staggering drop in numbers, they are reduced to being little more than spectators in the gank fleets of others. Hehehe...you do make me laugh Veers. I think your "facts" are flawed. You need to look a little deeper. But I think facts elude you...so it wouldn't matter. Believe what you like. It doesn't change anything. Just because you believe something, doesn't make it so. If I decide to believe in the easter bunny..does that make him real? Perhaps someone should make an "AG is dying thread" ...it's been quite quiet in there as of late. If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Lament von Gankenheim The Conference Elite CODE. 22	Posted - 2015.03.10 05:04:59 - [303] - Quote i heard AG was dying.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 546	Posted - 2015.03.10 05:06:24 - [304] - Quote Lament von Gankenheim wrote: i heard AG was dying. touche'. With code dead and the rest of the griefers out of business, it may be time for AG to fade away, much like the anti-flat earth society did.
Joan Miles Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2015.03.10 17:21:34 - [305] - Quote Azov Rassau wrote: Just another example of what EVE can be. Congrats to Globby for this Hyperstealing. No you didn't!! If this "Hyperstealing" becomes a new thing I'm holding you responsible!
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen Origin. Black Legion. 2016	Posted - 2015.03.10 17:44:50 - [306] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: ... Thanks Miss Holmes. Now let me say something very slowly to you. Code used to have a lot more pilots and generate a lot more kills on their own. Due to a staggering drop in numbers, they are reduced to being little more than spectators in the gank fleets of others. Would you like to know more?
Bj Queeen Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2015.03.13 09:34:03 - [307] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: between this, Feyd going to null, and Cannibal Kane mostly going inactive, highsec griefing may be over. Veers always wins! http://www.minerbumping.com/2015/02/highsec-miner-grab-bag-72.html?showComment=1423419940758#c5043912067282719038 (08.02.2015 16:25:07) redacted: Hello everyone, This is a mail regarding my departure from Eve. Its been a good 2 years with the New Order of High Sec/Code Alliance and I have come to make alot of good friends/enemies in this game. I would like to thank everyone for there support and in the help in us achieving some great things while being a part of the New Order. For me though it is time for me to concentrate on real life and my family hence why I am leaving Eve. I would like to say a big shout out to John E Normus and Capt Starfox for always being around when we were going through spaceship dramas and the countless hours/days we spent pvping miners. To The Conference Elite pilots thankyou for making TCE one of the greatest corps in all of eve and I am sure you will still carry the banner for months to come. I am incredibly proud of what we have all achieved in Eve, and for helping me shove carebear tears up CCP's xxxxx whenever they tried to nerf our playstyle. It has been an amazing journey through friendships, carebear tears, ts rage, milestones etc but for me real life comes first. I can be reached on redacted if anyone wants to catch up at anytime, Also please feel free to mail me if any of you come to New Zealand. To our Saviour James 315, keep rocking on, I will forever be grateful in your belief in me, and in your help that you have given me throughout the last year and a half, it has truly been a pleasure. To someone in goons can you please pass this message onto all of Mini-luv. Thankyou all o/ loyalanon PS - I will occassionally jump on however I wont be on everyday/week etc. Because of your post I now plan to go out and uphold the CODE. It has never crossed my mind to do so until I read this. All you high sec bears you can thank veers for making people want to gank you.
Charlie Jacobson 323	Posted - 2015.03.13 10:49:50 - [308] - Quote I can hardly contain my giggles. Looking forward to this weekend. I support James 315 and the New Order of Highsec
Piz Caldera Saubaer Schweinepriester 27	Posted - 2015.03.13 12:13:59 - [309] - Quote The End! lets sing a song together. Sing it loud! praise it! This is the end, beautiful friend This is the end, my only friend, the end Of our elaborate plans, the end Of everything that stands, the end No safety or surprise, the end I'll never look into your eyes, again . . . The killer awoke before dawn, he put his boots on He took a face from the ancient gallery And he walked on down the hall . . . And meet me at the back of the blue bus Doin' a blue rock, on a blue bus Doin' a blue rock, c'mon, yeah Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill This is the end, beautiful friend This is the end, my only friend, the end It hurts to set you free But you'll never follow me The end of laughter and soft lies The end of nights we tried to die This is the end
John E Normus New Order Logistics CODE. 503	Posted - 2015.03.13 16:14:08 - [310] - Quote Questions from the CODERED meeting last night. Why is Capt Starcox afraid of Mackinaw pods? Why does Borgia always announce a break before something weird happens. Why is root hiding from me? Why is the Canadian wing of the New Order so difficult to get rid of? Why does the New Order for Hillary movement grind my gears? Why is Super's alt a "problem?" Why is it a bad thing when Mildron giggles on comms? New horizons are opening. Between Ignorance and Wisdom
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 987	Posted - 2015.03.13 17:14:08 - [311] - Quote Charlie Jacobson wrote: I can hardly contain my giggles. Looking forward to this weekend. My power supply died, and I've been quoted "up to 5 business days" to get the replacement... fml No Eve for me all weekend... unless my 8 yr old beast of desktop can hold itself together long enough to update eve... Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
John E Normus New Order Logistics CODE. 504	Posted - 2015.03.13 17:53:21 - [312] - Quote TENGU!!!! Between Ignorance and Wisdom
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 989	Posted - 2015.03.13 18:16:25 - [313] - Quote John E Normus wrote: TENGU!!!! John!!!!!!!!!!! Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
John E Normus New Order Logistics CODE. 504	Posted - 2015.03.13 19:27:40 - [314] - Quote Teamspeak or mail? Between Ignorance and Wisdom
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 989	Posted - 2015.03.13 19:31:51 - [315] - Quote John E Normus wrote: Teamspeak or mail? mail. I'm using a crap laptop at work as my power cord died. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Gerhard Stringfellow Umbra Mining and Industry 7	Posted - 2015.03.14 10:21:24 - [316] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Kaely Tanniss wrote: Veers...you are the only one in denial thinking that somehow the code is dying. You wouldn't know anything about eve if it sat on your face and started to wiggle. You have a truly skewed vision of what is really going on...not to mention your own self worth. So troll on...since it's the only thing that gives you any remote sense of validity. Also...you better pray, or whatever you do, that someday code doesn't die...because then you will return to obscurity and mean absolutely nothing again...since it is code that gave you your sense of purpose to begin with. Remember..there can't be one without the other..what will you whine about if code were to be gone? Oh noes!!! ...but I'm sure you'll find something to feed your undeserved sense of importance and worth. Check killboard activity...fallen off a cliff. We live in a world of objective evidence, not bald faced assertion. Jesus Veers, give it a rest. You're either unhealthily passionate about this or a the best publicity alt CODE ever made. I think CODE is a joke as well, but they aren't really relevant anymore. You seem to be trying to make them relevant by posting about them 24/7, if anything.
Jevatoxa Amandla Legion 7	Posted - 2015.03.14 17:22:23 - [317] - Quote Bronson Hughes wrote: To the rest of CODE., MiniLuv, and C&P: Keep on ganking. You keep EvE interesting. Agree totally with this. We've often been on opposite sides of the field, but I have a huge respect for these guys for creating the content they do and helping keep Eve's unique place among other MMOs. Long may it continue.
Iain Cariaba 1150	Posted - 2015.03.14 18:14:30 - [318] - Quote I stop reading C&P for three months and what do I find when I return? Same old Veers trying to take Gevlin's crown for "King of the Clueless." I guess some things never change. Back to ignoring C&P again. EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid. I couldn't have said it better.
Kaely Tanniss Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 280	Posted - 2015.03.14 19:35:28 - [319] - Quote Iain Cariaba wrote: I stop reading C&P for three months and what do I find when I return? Same old Veers trying to take Gevlin's crown for "King of the Clueless." I guess some things never change. Back to ignoring C&P again. Hehehe...trying you say. Idk, he's definitely a contender. If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 547	Posted - 2015.03.15 01:56:25 - [320] - Quote Gerhard Stringfellow wrote: Jesus Veers, give it a rest. You're either unhealthily passionate about this or the best publicity alt CODE ever made. I think CODE is a joke as well, but they aren't really relevant anymore don't deserve this level of vitriol. You seem to be trying to make them relevant by posting about them 24/7, if anything. As far as I'm concerned, if they're operating within game mechanics it doesn't need CCP's intervention. There are no shortage of hazards in EvE, just treat them accordingly the same way you do everything else. And another big winner in the missing the point competition. No one is "obsessed" with Code. What we do appreciate is the effectiveness of code as an instructive heuristic. Approximately 6 months ago I engaged with the griefers, and warned them that their bad conduct, and failure to obey the dictates of their own code, would lead to their demise. At the time I was roundly mocked for my brave prediction, as, much like those who foresaw the collapse of the soviet union at the apex of its power, I was simply too sophisticated for my detractors to ably measure. Now mind you, I foretold this exact eventually when code was running daily freighter ganking fleets, uedama was on fire, and there seemed to be no hope for highsec PvE play. Much like those who shorted enron, or properly saw pearl harbor as the beginning of the end, my vision was clear, and judgment unclouded. What I explained to loyalanon, and to to other code leadership members, is that people play eve to build, not to destroy. They want to work with others and accomplish common goals to benefit all eve players, not to grief and humiliate the weakest and most pathetic, and drive them to quit the game. Highsec is about teamwork, loyalty, compassion, mutual benefit, and neverending nash equilibriums. That's why I explained to code that they needed more carrot and less stick, more bumping and less ganking, more dialogue, more integrity, and a cast iron commitment to always following their own code. They refused to listen, they mocked me, they launched a hilariously failed incursion ganking contest, and slowly they faded into the dustbin of history. At this point, as you can see from John's post, code is reduced to little more than a chummy country club group, as they sit around, sip martinis, and reminisce over their former glory days; they are truly relics of a bygone era with no hope of ever returning to their former strength. So to john, to miss foxie, and to the few diehards that remain, I beseech you, admit defeat, disband, unconditionally surrender to those who have outlasted you, and join us in collaborative PvE play in highsec.
Gerhard Stringfellow The Scope Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2015.03.15 09:10:28 - [321] - Quote Veers Wall of text people play eve to build, not to destroy People play EvE for all sorts of reasons, and even the most docile carebear will eventually want to rough things up once he has the skills and isk to do so. Claim you beat CODE, claim you run hi-sec, claim you're a prophet, but you don't speak for hi-sec or anyone but yourself; we're not all a bunch of defenseless grass eating whiners. If anything beat CODE, it was the fact that aside from harassing miners in heavily populated areas, hi-sec is just too damn big for them to police and the presence of concord makes it even more difficult, but it's mostly size of the space and the lack of available people enforcing "the code". Granted, I think CODE is just as silly as you do, but don't get the idea that whining ever killed anything but sex appeal. tl'dr you don't represent hi-sec, stop pretending to be our mouthpiece
Iain Cariaba 1155	Posted - 2015.03.15 17:08:56 - [322] - Quote Kaely Tanniss wrote: Iain Cariaba wrote: I stop reading C&P for three months and what do I find when I return? Same old Veers trying to take Gevlin's crown for "King of the Clueless." I guess some things never change. Back to ignoring C&P again. Hehehe...trying you say. Idk, he's definitely a contender. Nope, he's missing the poor interpretation of vast quantities of meaningless graphs to go along with his "I'm singlehandedly responsible for the fall of [group], even though I've been too risk averse to undock if there was even a miniscule chance someone might look at me funny." He needs more graphs showing how the rise in number of Drifter kills in Omist proves that he personally talked loyalanon into quitting. EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid. I couldn't have said it better.
Jevatoxa Amandla Legion 9	Posted - 2015.03.15 19:24:45 - [323] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Approximately 6 months ago I engaged with the griefers, and warned them that their bad conduct, and failure to obey the dictates of their own code, would lead to their demise. At the time I was roundly mocked for my brave prediction, as, much like those who foresaw the collapse of the soviet union at the apex of its power, I was simply too sophisticated for my detractors to ably measure. The narcissism is strong in this one. I shall pray to you tonight.
Elizabeth Norn Nornir Research 522	Posted - 2015.03.15 19:32:14 - [324] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: No one is "obsessed" with Code. I dunno, 600+ posts regarding CODE sounds pretty obsessed. .
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 548	Posted - 2015.03.15 19:58:02 - [325] - Quote Elizabeth Norn wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: No one is "obsessed" with Code. I dunno, 600+ posts regarding CODE sounds pretty obsessed. Lol....finding a useful teaching tool about why highsec ganking will never cause solitary PvE players to become more involved in the social fabric of the game is not "obsession." It's called drawing appropriate lessons from past historical events, a specialty of mine. Notice how the whole "changing the risk/reward balance in highsec" rhetoric has fallen away. It turns out that ganking may be good for giggles and tears, but it is not good in exposing miners to other types of gameplay. All it does is give miners an enemy to despise, and an inflated sense of self importance ("oh look, the entire might of goons is deployed to try and suppress highsec mining. We must be really important for them to bother"). If anything, it causes miners to get angry, and respond by mining even more to show the gankers that they can't win. As I told the code folks some months ago, the only way to get miners more involved in the game is through discussion, education, friendly advice, benevolent guidance, and perhaps the occasional bump. Those methods work, blowing them up in some absurd attempt to change their gameplay style does not. If I post a lot about code it's only because of how instructive it is when hundreds of supposedly intelligent people engage in a course of action that even the village fool easily understands has no prospects of success. We don't ask for brilliance, we do ask for some basic good judgment.
karma balancer Australian mining and land rights 3	Posted - 2015.03.16 09:36:56 - [326] - Quote Too much crap did not read EEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Aoife Fraoch Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 32	Posted - 2015.03.16 10:05:28 - [327] - Quote Elizabeth Norn wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: No one is "obsessed" with Code. I dunno, 600+ posts regarding CODE sounds pretty obsessed. Veers, get help. I don't think I have ever seen you not post about code. They more or less own you.
I am providence Viziam Amarr Empire 48	Posted - 2015.03.16 11:33:37 - [328] - Quote Aoife Fraoch wrote: Elizabeth Norn wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: No one is "obsessed" with Code. I dunno, 600+ posts regarding CODE sounds pretty obsessed. Veers, get help. I don't think I have ever seen you not post about code. They more or less own you. Psst... dont tell him the obvious My Blog (german): http://theevevirus.wordpress.com/ All about trading, some PvP, some politics... whatever i want to write about
Tetrachlorodi benzodioxin State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.03.16 13:38:52 - [329] - Quote Damn. I had a secret crush on loyalanon ever since hearing his authoritative, manly voice on on the Veers Tears recordings, but never had the courage to join TCE and express my devotion. And now I never will. sigh
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 995	Posted - 2015.03.16 16:57:55 - [330] - Quote Tetrachlorodi benzodioxin wrote: Damn. I had a secret crush on loyalanon ever since hearing his authoritative, manly voice on on the Veers Tears recordings, but never had the courage to join TCE and express my devotion. And now I never will. sigh Do not lose faith. TCE is still a great corporation run by great people. Have faith and join TCE, you will not be disappointed. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 .. 12 :: [one page]

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.