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admiral root
Red Galaxy
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Posted - 2015.02.10 10:53:23 -
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Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:can't imagine that peddling fairy tales and lies will help you get elected. Why not, it's worked for centuries in the real world.
Relevant.
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Tear Jar
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
309
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Posted - 2015.02.10 12:03:16 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:What is still unclear to me is, was it a ban or family matters ? If a ban, what happened ? If family matters .... I might not like him, but that still sucks then.  Its not a ban or game related. I can't give more detail than that. Ok, so real family matters..... that sucks. 
He won Eve. That doesn't suck. |

Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5086
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Posted - 2015.02.10 17:27:50 -
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Tear Jar wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:What is still unclear to me is, was it a ban or family matters ? If a ban, what happened ? If family matters .... I might not like him, but that still sucks then.  Its not a ban or game related. I can't give more detail than that. Ok, so real family matters..... that sucks.  He won Eve. That doesn't suck. Not really sure how you came to that conclusion, but OK.
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Daedlus Caine
Retrogressive Lunch Money Syndicate
215
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Posted - 2015.02.10 18:27:08 -
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I didn't know CODE still existed. What happened to that one guy who went around demanding tribute in high-sec while handing out "mining licenses"? I can't remember the name. |

La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
184
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Posted - 2015.02.10 19:12:57 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:who will not be remembered with respect A very very small minority was respecting him. Just from watching codies and their blogs made that clear.
Sabriz Adoudel wrote: , fear,
Sorry, WHAT?? A guy who was multiboxing hard with his alts to get No 1 on the Killboards by catastrophic Efficiency? With such low selfesteem that he had to boast with it all the time? Who believes others wouldnt notice? contempt? more like -> disgust! And now when his multibox alts get banned and his way of manipulating the killboards are over, he leaves? Yepp, he will be remembered! As the one in charge of AT2014 where CODE. got a permbann and all propaganda and other mediastuff went down the drain!
Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Huge shoes to fill.
I think more of pampers to fill...
Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Really want to have some good fights with Marmites before that happens.
There is always losec and nullsec for "real" pvp... Since you are running for CSM that might be a good idea to see more of EvE and players that play another styles of it.

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Thius Taxus Thellere
Blueprint Mania
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Posted - 2015.02.10 21:16:07 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Loyal will go onto other things in his life (I believe he has young kids but I actually don't know him well), but the impact he has had on EVE will not soon be forgotten, either by friends or foes.
Contrast this to a PVE grinder, who will not be remembered with respect, fear, contempt or loyalty by anyone other than (maybe) their close in-game friends. I know - I've been one (in other games), and led a couple of gamewide first completions. Noone would remember me in those games now except a few in my old guild.
Huge shoes to fill.
On the flip side, this probably means a patching of CODE-Marmite relations. Really want to have some good fights with Marmites before that happens.  Oh dear, I really hope you don't believe that nonsense...or intend to bring those distorted views to the CSM (but hey, at least you won the AT!). Loyalanon caused countless players to quit the game forever, as they were not interested in playing a game where harm is inflicted, for no tangible benefit, simply to enjoy sadistic pleasure at other's misfortune. One can only hope that Loyalanon's retirement comes after carefully considering his record in the game, the pain he has inflicted on so many innocent highsec players, and such other detrimental activities that he has engaged in. Perhaps the profound feelings of guilt caused him to reassess his conduct, and shamefully flee from his hideous in game reputation. As far as being remembered...certainly, he will be remembered. Like many cold blooded criminals throughout history his name will be etched in minds for posterity, a warning of what can become of those who abandon any semblance of common decency and moral values. To be remembered for evil is no great merit - far better to be forgotten for good....how many of our criminal masterminds throughout the ages would give anything to return and repair their sullied names? Loyalanon will be remembered allright, remembered for crime, remembered for pain, remembered for taunting, tear collection, and rage inducement. Remembered for everything that one can possibly do wrong in the game. Congratulations Loyalanon, you lost Eve. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
I would say YOU are the won who lost Eve. By making a computer game so personal. No one will miss you when you leave. |

Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5088
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Posted - 2015.02.10 21:55:03 -
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La Rynx wrote:A guy who was multiboxing hard with his alts to get No 1 on the Killboards by catastrophic Efficiency? With such low selfesteem that he had to boast with it all the time? out of curiosity, which number 1 was he aiming to get? I assume he was #1 on the "last 90 days" at some point, but alltime he's way down the list, except in losses. And if he was aiming for #1 in alltime losses, that's not really something to pat himself on the back about.
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Simca Develon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
57
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Posted - 2015.02.10 21:58:03 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Agondray wrote:we could wish but way to many gank for one reason or another since they started, so while code it self my shutdown the ganking wont Losing their main FC will considerably weaken their efforts...code is slowly disintegrating, and will soon be relegated to the dustbin of history.
That dustbin contains a great many corps/alliances that left their mark on this game in a very significant way. More than can or will ever be said of you. Nothing lasts forever...so yeah CODE may go, but the ganking will never stop. Someone else will come along and probably do it better.
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Alana Charen-Teng
Erik Sarn Corporation
510
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Posted - 2015.02.10 22:49:25 -
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The Code ALWAYS wins!!!! ALWAYS!!!! |

Nicolai Serkanner
Jebediah Kerman's Junkyard and Spaceship Parts Co. Brave Collective
277
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Posted - 2015.02.10 23:43:34 -
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Alana Charen-Teng wrote:The Code ALWAYS wins!!!! ALWAYS!!!!
The Code does. |
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Fappy Leggings
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.02.11 03:10:12 -
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AG forum alt here. Having flown against loyalanon's fleets a few times and witnessing his behavior first hand I must admit to feeling a great joy upon hearing the news.
loyalanon, a highsec hero? A vulgar player with a bad attitude is no hero. A bully is more like it! All the players that quit straight outta experiences with players like that and we call this healthy for highsec. Ha, no.
The game is better off without loyalanon and those like him. Killed 1000 freighters, inspired countless gankers, lead fleets of suicide ships never seen before, blah blah blah blah... no matter. A rapist murderer that donates millions to charity and volunteers at homeless shelters is still a rapist murderer. He is not vindicated of those crimes because he also does good things.
People in this thread are pretending loyalanon didn't do all the bad he did. The ruining of player experiences on a grand scale, not through gameplay, not through roleplay, but through the treatment of players in communication channels like they are subhuman trash. Worse yet harassing players by tracking them down on alts when they block him. Despicable.
Wasn't the whole point of Code to get players to stop grinding ISK and actually play the game? Really, who wants to play a game with someone who's treating them like a bully treats the nerd in elementary school? Who wants to play a game with someone who spams local with 100 insults when they come out to fight him?
Good riddance, this is no loss. This is a cause for celebration. loyal's absence is a win for Code. Now players will actually feel more incentive to engage with you. Plus, the maturity level of highsec has doubled with the absence of 1 player. Celebrate! |

Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.02.11 03:29:39 -
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Was wondering when the bully card would get played.
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
490
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Posted - 2015.02.11 04:02:01 -
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Thius Taxus Thellere wrote:
I would say YOU are the won who lost Eve. By making a computer game so personal. No one will miss you when you leave.
Hardly personal...savoring sweet victory over bad people is more of an entertaining hobby for me. |

Myriad Blaze
Common Sense Ltd Nulli Secunda
310
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Posted - 2015.02.11 05:58:12 -
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Fappy Leggings wrote:People in this thread are pretending loyalanon didn't do all the bad he did. The ruining of player experiences on a grand scale, not through gameplay, not through roleplay, but through the treatment of players in communication channels like they are subhuman trash. Worse yet harassing players by tracking them down on alts when they block him. Despicable. You know, it's ridiculously easy to deal with someone harassing others and posting inappropriate stuff in public channels: you report them and wait for CCP to take action.
I know from... lets say I have a friend who knows someone who got a warning for posting inappropriate stuff in local (tip: don't copy&paste phrases in cyrillic from a russian insult site without knowing exactly what it means ). So I know for a fact that CCP will take action, if you are too naughty.
However, if you reported him (if you didn't you're the only one to blame) and CCP did nothing to adjust that behavior... it probably means that the actions in question were not violating any rules. And that again would mean that you need to adjust your expectations and your stance towards certain aspects of the game (and although it seems that internet spaceships is serious business for you, it's still a game).
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
818
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Posted - 2015.02.11 07:08:20 -
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Daedlus Caine wrote:I didn't know CODE still existed. What happened to that one guy who went around demanding tribute in high-sec while handing out "mining licenses"? I can't remember the name. He owns Highsec now, the most thriving and rich part of space in new eden.
Do you have 10 minutes to talk about James 315 and the New Halaima Code of Conduct?
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5088
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Posted - 2015.02.11 08:37:20 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Daedlus Caine wrote:I didn't know CODE still existed. What happened to that one guy who went around demanding tribute in high-sec while handing out "mining licenses"? I can't remember the name. He owns Highsec now, the most thriving and rich part of space in new eden. Do you have 10 minutes to talk about James 315 and the New Halaima Code of Conduct? Hmmm...
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ggodhsup
relocation LLC.
48
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Posted - 2015.02.11 11:34:23 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Thius Taxus Thellere wrote:
I would say YOU are the won who lost Eve. By making a computer game so personal. No one will miss you when you leave.
Hardly personal...savoring sweet victory over bad people is more of an entertaining hobby for me.
savoring what sweet victory? you have done little to nothing but troll on the forums.
the CODE. "higher ups" just have better vision of the future of high-sec ganking and decided that maybe moving on is in their best interest.
and veers lets be realistic, anyone in CODE. is an alt, they all have plenty of mains to poison your high-sec paradise without the facade of CODE. alliance. your so naive....like a junior-high kid who wandered into a deep conversation. |

La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
186
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Posted - 2015.02.11 16:48:42 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:La Rynx wrote:A guy who was multiboxing hard with his alts to get No 1 on the Killboards by catastrophic Efficiency? With such low selfesteem that he had to boast with it all the time? out of curiosity, which number 1 was he aiming to get? I assume he was #1 on the "last 90 days" at some point, but alltime he's way down the list, except in losses. And if he was aiming for #1 in alltime losses, that's not really something to pat himself on the back about.
IIRC most kills, very likely 90 days. More ? nah! Lots of mining ships and capsules, absolute terrible efficience and lots and lots of them combined with "Wolf Soprano" and "Sophia Soprano" both alts of him (at his own admission), so he flew at least 3 ships at those times. Scout not counted in. Some elite player, really...
I did not mark it up or look it up everytime this guy postet it.
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
186
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Posted - 2015.02.11 16:58:53 -
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ggodhsup wrote: the CODE. "higher ups" just have better vision of the future of high-sec ganking and decided that maybe moving on is in their best interest.
Only leftovers, codies have been hit hard since the AT2014 Code-disaster.
ggodhsup wrote: anyone in CODE. is an alt, they all have plenty of mains to poison your high-sec paradise without the facade of CODE. alliance.
Yes those miraculous "supporters" that do not appear when they really are needed. Those who do not want their name and status besmirched with code-association. What does it help code? Nothing, they are worthless.
No one said hisec ganking would stop. There is no promising new CEO for the clownstroupe and Jimmy is nothing more than a ghostwriter alt.
Ask your CM wannabe Sabriz Abdu-something... Wants to get CM in name of code ideas, but did not manage it to help out when it was needed. Taking AT not serious proves that he/she and the rest of codies do not life up to their pro(paganda)misses. If you ask them for it, you get "i am villain, you can not force me to keep up my promisses"
Or they "roleplay" stuff, often stated as excuse and every often denounced by other codies. Last time denounced? CM wannabe Sabriz Abdou-something. Well it does not get more official than that.
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.02.11 17:25:52 -
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I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it.
The Rules: 3. Ranting is prohibited.
A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counter productive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents.
4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
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Catalytic morphisis
Cuddle Buddy Conglomerate Talos Coalition
105
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Posted - 2015.02.12 09:00:54 -
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Here he comes to claim something that he had nothing to do with once again
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
2305
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Posted - 2015.02.12 09:01:07 -
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Miner, calm down.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
187
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Posted - 2015.02.12 10:59:02 -
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LOL

oh, *I* am cool.

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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
1936
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Posted - 2015.02.12 11:11:08 -
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La Rynx wrote:Last time denounced? CM wannabe Sabriz Abdou-something. What's a CM ? 
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
187
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Posted - 2015.02.12 13:50:48 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:La Rynx wrote:Last time denounced? CM wannabe Sabriz Abdou-something. What's a CM ?
a CSM without S uperiority. a Candidate Master Case Managment Christian Messiah Critical Mass a Typo
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Vector Symian
0 Fear
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Posted - 2015.02.12 22:46:52 -
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*facepalm*

*in desperation tries to find some evidence that Veers is a code recruitment tool*
Wait...
maybe the A.G should make a Code. toon passionately over-highlighting codes achievements to the point of ridiculous ... oh wait
maybe we can just keep letting code. linesmen talk on the forums 
Thankyou Code for making the entire idea of suicide ganking a mechanic that must be nerfed in eve 
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Capt Starfox
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
823
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Posted - 2015.02.13 09:22:17 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:
It sure does when the entire focus of their play was to make highsec PvE unprofitable and force everyone into nullsec. The fact that their campaign failed spectacularly is absolutely a complete and total victory for the highsec PvE players. That Loyalanon, James 315, Capt Starfox, and others have now all "retired to spend more time with their families" (politician speak for abandoning a hopeless cause) is the biggest possible win for highsec players anywhere.
Oh man, I missed this so much.
To publicly declare victory because your "enemy" in a video game is taking a break for RL reasons goes to show how desperate you are; for attention I presume.
For those who are unaware:
James still manages his blog daily and continues to log in to hand out SRP. You can label that as "retired to spend more time with their families" all you want, but alas it's not and James is very much not AFK, nor inactive.
Loyal is actually taking a break for RL reasons. This happens to all of us as RL > Eve. More power to him and I wish him well. I hope to see him soon making some miners explode somewhere.
As for myself I took what I would consider a short break for RL purposes; namely college and work. This was not a surprise and everyone who needed to know knew about it. Also, one can manage and delegate alliance/coalition interests without having to traditionally log in; that should go without saying.
Not to mention the fact that John is the leader of the alliance and is very much active; I'm assuming there's a super military strategy tactical reason that ensured victory as to why this wasn't brought up.
Now that my RL is calming back down, I hope to see you all in-game soon.
The Code always wins. 
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5096
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Posted - 2015.02.13 09:53:05 -
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Capt Starfox wrote:Oh man, I missed this so much. To publicly declare victory because your "enemy" in a video game is taking a break for RL reasons goes to show how desperate you are; for attention I presume. ... The Code always wins.  How is it any different for him to claim victory when the effect of CODE is reduced due to people leaving, than you claiming victory by default as CODE members tend to do. The Code is also losing. It has been for a while. Let's face the truth - the code was started up when they made the mining barge changes, James had a megasad and threw a massive tantrum trying to get things changed. Following that code have gone out of their way to show how easy it is to gank, which has resulted in nerfs to ganking, with likely more on the way.
tl;dr - you're both as bad as each other claiming victory when there is none.
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Capt Starfox
Northstar Cabal Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2015.02.13 10:29:23 -
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Players come and go all the time, this is nothing new and is to be expected. To use this as a measure of CODE. success or failure will likely give the wrong conclusion. Especially when CODE. keeps on winning.
The New Order wasn't created because of the Barge/Exhumer buffs, it was created because of how easy it was for players to mine ice and AFK while making a passive income; but, research is hard.
Where are those static ice belts again?
The New Order has caused the most destruction in highsec since it was founded; I believe this includes ship destruction, but definitely includes isk destroyed, I may be wrong on the first. Most players view isk destroyed as "winning". Seeing as you're in the CFC, you should understand that concept.
The only way isk destroyed doesn't really matter is when supers are on field and die (assuming you lost the isk war, but killed some supers).
Please point on the Barge where the bad pirates touched you.
E: Also, if you take the strategic victory, then losing the isk war might not matter either, but it's bittersweet; doesn't have the same taste as biting into some supers.
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5096
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Posted - 2015.02.13 11:16:24 -
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Capt Starfox wrote:Players come and go all the time, this is nothing new and is to be expected. To use this as a measure of CODE. success or failure will likely give the wrong conclusion. Especially when CODE. keeps on winning.
The New Order wasn't created because of the Barge/Exhumer buffs, it was created because of how easy it was for players to mine ice and AFK while making a passive income; but, research is hard. It seems research is hard, yes. James used to whine in early 2012 about "the carebears" in his manifestos, then created code (originally as the Halaima permit) following changes announced in June 2012 about mining barge buffs as a response to those changes.
Capt Starfox wrote:Where are those static ice belts again? Ice belts were shrunk as near infinite resources was a pretty bad idea. It wasn't a direct response to code, it was a response to a general feeling that ice was providing very little to the game. It still provides very little as they are still static in size and location, only smaller.
Capt Starfox wrote:The New Order has caused the most destruction in highsec since it was founded; I believe this includes ship destruction, but definitely includes isk destroyed, I may be wrong on the first. Most players view isk destroyed as "winning". Seeing as you're in the CFC, you should understand that concept.
The only way isk destroyed doesn't really matter is when supers are on field and die (assuming you lost the isk war, but killed some supers).
Please point on the Barge where the bad pirates touched you.
E: Also, if you take the strategic victory, then losing the isk war might not matter either, but it's bittersweet; doesn't have the same taste as biting into some supers. Actually, EVE is a sandbox and most agree that there is no winning criteria beyond what you set yourself. You guys have set out to rid highsec of carebear miners, and yet nearly every system you travel through still has carebear miners in it. I may be in the CFC, but I've never been one to care for isk destroyed, and neither has quite a large potion of the players I play with. Who cares about isk efficiency if you complete your set objective? Sure, we sling "killboard green" around as a way to taunt people after individual battles, but all that is, it's just talk.
I do like how you jump straight to "he must be buttmad!" though in classic code member style. I personally am unaffected by code. I don't mine in highsec and anything I haul is done by third party haulers in over-collateralised contracts. When gankers have killed haulers transporting my stuff, I've actually made more isk that I would if it made it to the market. That doesn;t mean that I can't look at code objectively as see that your claim of victory are no different to Veers. Both are unfounded claims. I just hear code going on about it a hell of a lot more than Veers does.
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