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Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.02.09 11:42:36 -
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I have been mining in high sec for many months and there hasn't been any attacks on my mining ship. Everything I read about mining says you must tank your ship to the max and forget about yield. Is this because they don't want your cheap frigate to be able to compete with their expensive barge ? Lets factor in that you might be a target , well maybe most mining ships just aren't ?
Anyway this all changed yesterday or did it ? A Gallente battlecruiser Myrmidon decided to warp scramble my barge. What's this Arrggh ! I'm getting ganked I thought to myself , hitting the shield boost in panic. I recalled my mining drones and waited for the impact. It never came, a short while later the assailant was in a capsule surrounded by Concord Ships. I targeted the capsule and launched my combat drones as he sat there looking confused.com For some reason the criminal status of the capsule wasn't showing on my overview setup so I let him go. Unfortunately because I didn't activate any offensive modules against him , I have no kill mail. His wreck contained Hammerhaed 2 Combat Drones which he hadn't even launched so this is no newb.
My only conclusion is that he hadn't realized that he had left low sec,. We all make those bad decisions every now and then and probably more often if you spend your even life in constant low sec danger.
So this leaves me wondering , are mining ships really in danger in high sec ? |
Juan Diolosa
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.02.09 11:49:16 -
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In the off chance you are not trolling... As of this post, according to ZKill there have been 40 miners killed in HiSec today. You tell me if there are pirates. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
13998
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Posted - 2015.02.09 11:49:48 -
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If you weren't before. You may be after the pirates read this post of yours.
And you're not safe anywhere, sometimes by pilots who want to get your loot, other times for fun. Best protection is a bit of thinking and an open eye.
/c
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Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.02.09 11:58:07 -
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Yeah yeah those scary forum pirates who have you convinced they are dangerous and convinced I am trolling. |
Nevil Oscillator
168
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Posted - 2015.02.09 12:03:20 -
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Juan Diolosa wrote:. As of this post, according to ZKill there have been 40 miners killed in HiSec today. You tell me if there are pirates.
Interesting statistic, , I don't know if they are pirates or engaged in some war or something perhaps ?
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Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
262
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Posted - 2015.02.09 12:06:23 -
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With the amount of nerfs directed at highsec piracy and buffs to safety, ganking is much harder to profit from than before, so fewer people do it. This dramatic increase of isk/risk in highsec is a bad thing.
The gankers are still out there though. Do not use your personal anecdotes as conclusive evidence. |
Leannor
Central Builders Incorporated Northern Associates.
86
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Posted - 2015.02.09 12:13:05 -
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sounds more like a bait gone wrong ... lol
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Aiwha
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
799
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Posted - 2015.02.09 12:15:35 -
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Well, either your barge was tanky enough or the gankers really sucked at ganking.
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Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.02.09 12:23:07 -
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Aiwha wrote:Well, either your barge was tanky enough or the gankers really sucked at ganking.
I don't think it was a gank, I think it was a genuine mistake |
Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
262
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Posted - 2015.02.09 12:34:52 -
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I don't mine anymore but back when I did (with a 4 alt fleet). I was never ganked. Either I was lucky or it was because I didn't seem like the best target.
So I could easily make the assumption that the danger of being ganked is overstated and I would say that if you play smart it is something that you can avoid somewhat. But judging from the complaints I would see daily in the mining channel I was in, and on the forums, the danger is very real. |
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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
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Posted - 2015.02.09 12:47:57 -
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being not a good enough target doesn't matter, ive seen ventures ganked for mining, ill run a locator later and send what you seek
"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
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Concord Guy's Cousin
State War Academy Caldari State
592
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Posted - 2015.02.09 12:56:08 -
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Agondray wrote:being not a good enough target doesn't matter, ive seen ventures ganked for mining, ill run a locator later and send what you seek On the other hand being an undesirable target does make a difference to the likelihood of exploding, gankers tend to go for the low hanging fruit first; given the choice of a few tanked up to the eyeballs miners and multiple untanked and possibly afk miners in the same belt or anom, they'll hit the latter over the former.
ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries"
NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
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Adrie Atticus
Shadows of Rebellion The Bastion
907
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Posted - 2015.02.09 13:14:00 -
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Most ganks are usually centered around a small pocket around Caldari space due to lolcode living there. Mining 30j away from Caldari space is usually large enough of a barrier to see gankers maybe once per month. |
Nevil Oscillator
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Posted - 2015.02.09 13:34:45 -
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Agondray wrote:being not a good enough target doesn't matter, ive seen ventures ganked for mining, ill run a locator later and send what you seek
Yeah lol you do that.. but I can't guarantee you will find what you seek
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
794
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Posted - 2015.02.09 13:48:45 -
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Op, why is your corp killboard so red? I hope it's nod because some illegal mining
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9648
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Posted - 2015.02.09 13:50:04 -
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Juan Diolosa wrote:In the off chance you are not trolling... As of this post, according to ZKill there have been 40 miners killed in HiSec today. You tell me if there are pirates.
40...
You mean all this massive, decades long over-exaggerated hurf blurf by miners is over so small a daily death ratio? According to forum posting miners, ganks are so incredibly common that somehow Null Sec (the place with no magically spawning space police) is the safer option compared to high sec (the place that does have magically spawning space police).
40... |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
6003
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Posted - 2015.02.09 13:51:21 -
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Ganks are pretty rare. They just make a lot of noise over them so it appears ganking is more prolific than it is.
It also helps to have your mining ship tanked enough that a single random roaming ganker can't pop you. The more people are needed to go through your tank and the farther you are from a trade route or popular mining system, the less likely a gank is going to happen.
If that's still not good enough, go mining in mission deadspace.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics
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Captain John Redner
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.09 13:53:39 -
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Pirates are definatly out there. Just won't find them in highsec.
Gankers are a very real threat, but you can fit your cheap venture for max yield. Chances are you will pay for your ship many times over before you loose it to code or the like.
Fly a ways off the beacon when you first land in a feild. Pay attention. If someone comes in your feild and starts heading right for you, get out.
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Chal0ner
Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi
129
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Posted - 2015.02.09 13:55:45 -
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Chribba wrote:If you weren't before. You may be after the pirates read this post of yours.
You beat me to the comment
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AeonOfTime
Syrkos Technologies Joint Venture Conglomerate
90
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Posted - 2015.02.09 13:55:48 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:I don't think it was a gank, I think it was a genuine mistake
Did you try asking him/her?
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Ned Thomas
Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
804
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Posted - 2015.02.09 14:00:50 -
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The story sounds implausible, but then again I am fairly certain that a Manticore that was hunting me last night managed to instead target, scram, and fire on a wormhole....which I didn't know was possible. So I'm in a mood to believe anything at the moment.
Vote Sabriz!
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Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
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Posted - 2015.02.09 14:07:46 -
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yeah miners blowing up is all just made up stuff |
Yourmoney Mywallet
Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation
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Posted - 2015.02.09 14:44:59 -
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I found Nevil Oscillator for you. From: Natakko Saijimo Sent: 2015.02.09 14:44
I've found your sleazebag.
He is at Urhinichi IX - State War Academy station in the Urhinichi system, Suon constellation of The Citadel region.
With regards,
Natakko Saijimo
just sayin' |
Aldeskwatso
Highsec Heroes Indecent Exposure Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.09 14:47:22 -
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Yes pirates or suicide gankers more specifically in this case are out there. It's just they arent that big of a deal as many make them out to be.
If you know what you doing you can quite safely greed fit your miner and ignore the odd chance you get ganked. It could literally be years before someone pulls it off.
The biggest obstacle you'll encounter doing anything is yourself.
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Nevil Oscillator
170
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:08:19 -
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AeonOfTime wrote:Nevil Oscillator wrote:I don't think it was a gank, I think it was a genuine mistake Did you try asking him/her?
No I was too busy going to fetch a ship to loot his drones
Chal0ner wrote:Chribba wrote:If you weren't before. You may be after the pirates read this post of yours. You beat me to the comment
Clearly this is a risk I have decided is negligible. |
Serene Repose
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:14:30 -
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40 miners out of 22,000+ people online at the moment? Someone give me a percentage on that.
Treason never prospers. What is the reason?
Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
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Nevil Oscillator
170
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:29:26 -
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Serene Repose wrote:40 miners out of 22,000+ people online at the moment? Someone give me a percentage on that.
0.2% |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
6005
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:36:02 -
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Nevil Oscillator wrote:Serene Repose wrote:40 miners out of 22,000+ people online at the moment? Someone give me a percentage on that. 0.2% Alright, math buffs, calculate: If the chance to get ganked during 23 hours of mining is 0.2%, how many hours do you need to mine for the chance of a gank to approach 100% ?
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
6397
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:43:02 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Nevil Oscillator wrote:Serene Repose wrote:40 miners out of 22,000+ people online at the moment? Someone give me a percentage on that. 0.2% Alright, math buffs, calculate: If the chance to get ganked during 23 hours of mining is 0.2%, how many hours do you need to mine for the chance of a gank to approach 100% ?
Lots.
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Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
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Adrie Atticus
Shadows of Rebellion The Bastion
908
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Posted - 2015.02.09 15:47:24 -
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Abrazzar wrote:Nevil Oscillator wrote:Serene Repose wrote:40 miners out of 22,000+ people online at the moment? Someone give me a percentage on that. 0.2% Alright, math buffs, calculate: If the chance to get ganked during 23 hours of mining is 0.2%, how many hours do you need to mine for the chance of a gank to approach 100% ?
0.2%
The result is not dependent on the outcome of the previous roll so chance stays the same. |
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