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Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2006.10.04 00:18:00 - [31] IF the Caldari BS will have 700 tf (like the Raven) or 750 cpu (like the Scorpion), with maxed out relevant skills (elec 5, mining upgrades 5) and some co-procs, you could certainly fit at least 4 mining upgrades, probably even 5 (depending on how many lowslots it'll have ). With T2 crystals and 8 MDCMIIs, that's up to 2.2k cubic meters of ore/minute... and that's WITHOUT gang bonus nor mining drones... only depending on how many upgrades you fit. With maxed out skills foreman gang member (running mining links from a fleet comand ship) and drones, you could be raking well over 2.8k per minute. Reality check: that's BEYOND Hulk-level yield. __ Always question everything. Including yourself.
Vexoth	Posted - 2006.10.04 00:54:00 - [32] Originally by: Akita T IF the Caldari BS will have 700 tf (like the Raven) or 750 cpu (like the Scorpion), with maxed out relevant skills (elec 5, mining upgrades 5) and some co-procs, you could certainly fit at least 4 mining upgrades, probably even 5 (depending on how many lowslots it'll have ). With T2 crystals and 8 MDCMIIs, that's up to 2.2k cubic meters of ore/minute... and that's WITHOUT gang bonus nor mining drones... only depending on how many upgrades you fit. With maxed out skills foreman gang member (running mining links from a fleet comand ship) and drones, you could be raking well over 2.8k per minute. Reality check: that's BEYOND Hulk-level yield. Even if all of this is true, and it can potentially mine faster than a Hulk, you still would have to pay 3x more attention to mining to make sure that your cargo hold doesn't fill up too fast and lose ore.
Trev Kachanov Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.04 03:41:00 - [33] Originally by: Akita T IF the Caldari BS will have 700 tf (like the Raven) or 750 cpu (like the Scorpion), with maxed out relevant skills (elec 5, mining upgrades 5) and some co-procs, you could certainly fit at least 4 mining upgrades, probably even 5 (depending on how many lowslots it'll have ). With T2 crystals and 8 MDCMIIs, that's up to 2.2k cubic meters of ore/minute... and that's WITHOUT gang bonus nor mining drones... only depending on how many upgrades you fit. With maxed out skills foreman gang member (running mining links from a fleet comand ship) and drones, you could be raking well over 2.8k per minute. Reality check: that's BEYOND Hulk-level yield. For some reason this just doesnt add up.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2006.10.04 10:12:00 - [34] Miner is 80 tf, upgrade is 30 tf, each upgrade increases CPU usage of miner by 10% normally but only 7.5% with mining upgrades L5. With 4 mining upgrades you need 106.83753125 tf per miner (too bad you don't get bonus from weapon upgrades, what a shame), 854.70025 tf in total, plus 120 tf from the 4 upgrades, a total need of 974.70025 tf. Assuming you have 750 base tf to start with, that's 937.5 tf with electronics L5, and 1031.25 tf with a mere unit of a T2 co-proc in the (hopefully existing) 5th low. And you still have 50tf leftover. With 700 tf base, it's 875 tf after electronics, then 962.5 after first coproc, then 1058.75 if you can fit a second co-proc. __ Always question everything. Including yourself.
Adrian Kerensky Nexus Legion Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.04 11:18:00 - [35] I want a drone boat .
Laythun Undercover Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.04 11:23:00 - [36] Ugh u bunch of shabby nublets. Gank platform with enough room for injector, web, scram and afb/mwd. who needs cap when your target is toasting under 8 megapulse II's? w/dmg mods? plates anyone? i mean u guys need to SERIOUSLY get crative with your setups. oh and u need some damn skills. Proud Member of the Anti Whine 14
Lord WarATron Amarr Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.04 11:29:00 - [37] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 04/10/2006 11:30:34 Edited by: Lord WarATron on 04/10/2006 11:29:33 Originally by: Trev Kachanov Originally by: Akita T IF the Caldari BS will have 700 tf (like the Raven) or 750 cpu (like the Scorpion), with maxed out relevant skills (elec 5, mining upgrades 5) and some co-procs, you could certainly fit at least 4 mining upgrades, probably even 5 (depending on how many lowslots it'll have ). With T2 crystals and 8 MDCMIIs, that's up to 2.2k cubic meters of ore/minute... and that's WITHOUT gang bonus nor mining drones... only depending on how many upgrades you fit. With maxed out skills foreman gang member (running mining links from a fleet comand ship) and drones, you could be raking well over 2.8k per minute. Reality check: that's BEYOND Hulk-level yield. For some reason this just doesnt add up. It does not. I did the figures in another post. The Rokh does a max of around 1100m3 through turrets alone with 4 mining upgrades assuming gang skills and implants. Dones will further increase this figure. --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE
Nir	Posted - 2006.10.04 11:30:00 - [38] Originally by: Adrian Kerensky I want a drone boat . Hell, I'll settle for ANYTHING but another cookie cutter turret ship. Please just make Amarr a little more versatile.. Its beyond me how Caldari now get the best support BS, the best medium range BS and the best fleet BS all in one lineup.
Lord WarATron Amarr Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.04 11:31:00 - [39] Originally by: Nir Originally by: Adrian Kerensky I want a drone boat . Hell, I'll settle for ANYTHING but another cookie cutter turret ship. Please just make Amarr a little more versatile.. Its beyond me how Caldari now get the best support BS, the best medium range BS and the best fleet BS all in one lineup. And best mining BS, and best Tank BS. --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE
Grml Z Mad-Warping-Maniacs	Posted - 2006.10.04 11:31:00 - [40] Originally by: Laythun plates anyone? i mean u guys need to SERIOUSLY get crative with your setups. So true,apo and geddon are good ships,the abaddon will rock. And it has enough med to fit ECCM + good fitting! But i hope people wont notice,flying "underdog" ships is fun. _____________ I am a NoOb,and i am proud to be one! _____________ i cant speak english
DeadDuck Amarr DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.04 11:56:00 - [41] I think that Abbadon will be one of the best Fleet BS around, but I think he will be very vulnerable in close range combat. With the popular use of NOS+NEUT the ship without any cap bonus will die even faster then their partners the Geddon and the Apoc. Dont know what kind of nerf the NOS will suffer but if nothing changes I really think that this ship will suffer alot. Anyway the tier 3 BS should be available soon in the test server. We will see how they will behave there.
Lord WarATron Amarr Out Siders Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.04 13:17:00 - [42] Originally by: DeadDuck I think that Abbadon will be one of the best Fleet BS around, but I think he will be very vulnerable in close range combat. With the popular use of NOS+NEUT the ship without any cap bonus will die even faster then their partners the Geddon and the Apoc. Dont know what kind of nerf the NOS will suffer but if nothing changes I really think that this ship will suffer alot. Anyway the tier 3 BS should be available soon in the test server. We will see how they will behave there. 10 t2 fitted BS's > 100 t1 fitted BS's. What makes the abaddon different from t1 fitted bs's? Nothing. What makes the Rokh in the same leauge as t2 fitted BS's? The Range. T2 ranges with T1 ammo --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE
DeadDuck Amarr DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.04 14:53:00 - [43] Originally by: Lord WarATron Originally by: DeadDuck I think that Abbadon will be one of the best Fleet BS around, but I think he will be very vulnerable in close range combat. With the popular use of NOS+NEUT the ship without any cap bonus will die even faster then their partners the Geddon and the Apoc. Dont know what kind of nerf the NOS will suffer but if nothing changes I really think that this ship will suffer alot. Anyway the tier 3 BS should be available soon in the test server. We will see how they will behave there. 10 t2 fitted BS's > 100 t1 fitted BS's. What makes the abaddon different from t1 fitted bs's? Nothing. What makes the Rokh in the same leauge as t2 fitted BS's? The Range. T2 ranges with T1 ammo Just saying that the Abbadon with the capability to fit 8 High damaging weapons most probably without engineering Modules (I hope) and the ROF bonus will be undoubltly superior to the Geddon or The Apoc, at least 14% superior in damage ouput, but most probably more. On the other way the tank bonus added with the possible penalty on fleet blobs, according with Tuxford blog will add the Abbadon more survivability.
Susa Ou	Posted - 2006.10.04 14:56:00 - [44] I keep hopeing for something new for the Amarr, a drone boat spacifically. But nope, its a full rack of lasers and a massive tank again. zzz
Kharakan Amarr GREY COUNCIL	Posted - 2006.10.04 15:36:00 - [45] Originally by: Grml Z Originally by: Laythun plates anyone? i mean u guys need to SERIOUSLY get crative with your setups. So true,apo and geddon are good ships,the abaddon will rock. And it has enough med to fit ECCM + good fitting! But i hope people wont notice,flying "underdog" ships is fun. I support this man's signature. Originally by: ParMizaN evry1ghasb a limiy... ...and ijust reached it ahaha... this signature space is claimed in the name of eris, haha I got to him first. neeneer [limegreen]I a
Shirazz	Posted - 2006.10.04 15:41:00 - [46] I cant believe there were people who were actaually looking at how well the Abaddon is going to MINE on the thread i started.... Im going to hang myself
Luric Vizjier The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.04 16:32:00 - [47] 8 / 5 / 7 Slots for the win! Please? -----------------------------------------------
Adrian Kerensky Nexus Legion Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.05 11:41:00 - [48] Originally by: Nir Originally by: Adrian Kerensky I want a drone boat . Hell, I'll settle for ANYTHING but another cookie cutter turret ship. Please just make Amarr a little more versatile.. Its beyond me how Caldari now get the best support BS, the best medium range BS and the best fleet BS all in one lineup. Omen>New Tier 2>Geddon Punisher>Prophecy>Apoc Arbitrator>Abaddon In my idea world anyhoo...

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