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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
20569
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Posted - 2015.02.13 18:40:42 -
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Hello Pilots, it's your Friendly Banana coming to you with an issue.
I've got a suggestion which is also somewhat of a question. After discussing this issue with several others recently, and even mentioning it to CSM corbexx to look into, I figured it was about time I made an actual thread to make this an actual suggestion.
TL:DR -I'd like to see the physically simulated hair look remain in final portraits.
Physically Simulated Hair and Cloth We've all seen it in the character creator, the gorgeous flowing long-locks of hair, the ponytails hanging effortlessly behind the wearer's back, the braids draped gracefully over one's shoulder. But you see once you've taken your new portrait it doesn't come out looking anything at all like that. In fact, with the mothballing of WiS, the physically simulated hair and cloth look is nothing more than a WiS legacy that hangs in the character creator, teasing us with a level of beauty we can only dream about retaining in our final, rendered portraits.
Here's an example. Take me, The Banana, I recently changed my hairstyle to the lovely braids you see before you. When I completed the portrait and inspected it pre-render/update I thought "Wow, that's awesome"
Before final portrait render: http://i.imgur.com/6FKy4JP.jpg
Then after the portrait eventually rendered/updated I was left stunned and more than a little dissapointed to see my braids suddenly floating in mid-air!
After the final render: https://image.eveonline.com/character/942849185_1024.jpg
Ewww, right? 
As it turns out, this is the reason we see a ton of portraits around with distorted looking hair, especially ponytails. It's the same reason we see our long hair suddenly cut short in the final portrait, it's the reason braids somehow defy physics and begin to levitate.
CCP, the servers seem to recognize the simulated hair look just fine (look at the pre-rendered version of my own, ingame). But for some reason it does not keep this look after the portrait is rendered/updated and it returns to the non-simulated appearance. Not only is this purely ugly and wasting people's time in the character creator, but it seems like an enormous waste of what is a spectacular part of your character creator.
Please CCP, can you allow us to keep the simulated hair appearance in final portraits. Pretty please?
If not, why?
Thank you for taking the time to read. GÖÑ
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Kaaeliaa
The Vendunari End of Life
68573
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Posted - 2015.02.13 19:35:10 -
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I normally have short hair, but there have been a few times where I've noticed some very annoying incongruities between how my client renders the portrait and how the server renders it. Silliness. Extreme silliness!
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Sunrise Aigele
Pemberley Enterprises BadWrongFun
48
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Posted - 2015.02.13 20:02:50 -
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I have been burned by this so many times! It is why I have my hair in a bun. |

Kaaeliaa
The Vendunari End of Life
68580
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Posted - 2015.02.13 20:08:23 -
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Sunrise Aigele wrote:I have been burned by this so many times! It is why I have my hair in a bun.
If it's any consolation, I think it looks cute!
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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
20616
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Posted - 2015.02.13 20:12:38 -
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Sunrise Aigele wrote:I have been burned by this so many times! It is why I have my hair in a bun. Sorry to hear, but I agree with Kaeeliaa - you look great.
Same issue for me, these braids were an experiment after hours of attempts with the ponytail failed due to this issue. I found I loved the braided look though, but then found even it got ruined by the portrait incompatibility...
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Kaaeliaa
The Vendunari End of Life
68582
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Posted - 2015.02.13 20:21:08 -
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Candi LeMew wrote:Sunrise Aigele wrote:I have been burned by this so many times! It is why I have my hair in a bun. Sorry to hear, but I agree with Kaeeliaa - you look great. Same issue for me, these braids were an experiment after hours of attempts with the ponytail failed due to this issue. I found I loved the braided look though, but then found even it got ruined by the portrait incompatibility...
You still look fantastic, Miss Candi!
I find it interesting that the portraits are apparently rendered twice, once in the client, and then again, completely separately, by the server. How hard would it be to just render it once, locally, and send that to the server?
Here's an interesting example. One night, while making a new portrait, I managed to get my hair to look a bit pink. I thought it was just a fortuitous trick of lighting, but apparently it was just a glitch and the server rendered it as very dull red. I was extremely disappointed.
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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
20619
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Posted - 2015.02.13 20:27:07 -
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Kaaeliaa wrote:You still look fantastic, Miss Candi! Daww thanks 
Tbh I still like the overall look, so stayed with it despite it's unnecessary flaws.
Kaaeliaa wrote:I find it interesting that the portraits are apparently rendered twice, once in the client, and then again, completely separately, by the server. How hard would it be to just render it once, locally, and send that to the server? Here's an interesting example. One night, while making a new portrait, I managed to get my hair to look a bit pink. I thought it was just a fortuitous trick of lighting, but apparently it was just a glitch and the server rendered it as very dull red. I was extremely disappointed. Ohhh very nice. I think I remember you showing me that before(?)
Anycase yeah, it looked great and a shame the server didn't keep the appearance properly.
You seemed to have worked with it pretty well though! Kaaeliaa's always looking classy and very attractive.
But we can all look so much better CCP.
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Erica Dusette
Isogen 5
37398
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Posted - 2015.02.13 20:37:34 -
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I whole-hairedly support and/or endorse this question and/or suggestion.
Let's put all our bad hair days behind us, CCP.
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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
3486
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Posted - 2015.02.13 23:02:31 -
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While this will never affect me, I do still agree with OP and so +1 for this. |

Badel Jramodarr
8897
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Posted - 2015.02.14 02:40:38 -
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Erica Dusette wrote:I whole-hairedly support and/or endorse this question and/or suggestion.
Let's put all our bad hair days behind us, CCP.
 *tackle hugs* What she said...
I do feel the OP has a good point, though it may not effect me so much, I still would like my dreadlocks looking as marvelous as possible, not-to-mention, my beard 
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FireFrenzy
Satan's Unicorns
211
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Posted - 2015.02.14 09:22:18 -
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Also! ANTIGRAVITY HAIR! Not sure whats up with that... |

Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
279
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Posted - 2015.02.14 11:40:55 -
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While we are at it, can we get braids, ponytails and long hair for men too?
I can't be a suitably fashionable Gallente pilot without absolutely fabulous hair. |

Kabark
Caliburn Company Violent Declaration
5
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Posted - 2015.02.14 17:54:54 -
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Godfrey Silvarna wrote:While we are at it, can we get braids, ponytails and long hair for men too?
I can't be a suitably fashionable Gallente pilot without absolutely fabulous hair. My toon has had the bald white eyed phycopath look since creation. But I agree that the portrait rendering needs to reflect the portrait creator. And I would really like to see some long beards or braided beards. I've always felt like a Space Viking trapped in a woman's body. |

Erica Dusette
Isogen 5
38195
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Posted - 2015.02.19 18:53:33 -
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Giving this important issue a kick back to the front page.
Let's not allow this issue to disappear in the same way as your hair's length does because of this problem.
Instead, let it levitate to the front page, like Candi's braids.
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Alundil
Isogen 5
867
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Posted - 2015.02.19 20:04:33 -
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Godfrey Silvarna wrote:While we are at it, can we get braids, ponytails and long hair for men too?
I can't be a suitably fashionable Gallente pilot without absolutely fabulous hair. I seem to pull it off sans hair.
:p
I'm right behind you
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Kaaeliaa
The Vendunari End of Life
69642
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Posted - 2015.02.19 20:07:41 -
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*butt-bumps thread*
See how shiny and flake free my hair is?
Head and Shoulders!
Points for reference.
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Kabark
Caliburn Company Violent Declaration
12
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Posted - 2015.02.19 21:54:40 -
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Still waiting to look like Space Viking. |

Alena McJenkins
McJenkins' Saucy Shipwreckers LLC
10
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Posted - 2015.02.22 04:37:09 -
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Yes. Floatiness hair is silly.
Oh and while we're here, why not add more mohawks? I would pay massively for a mohawk reminiscent of a Roman helmet, or perhaps some liberty spikes. This wispy one irritates the forehead.
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Kabark
Caliburn Company Violent Declaration
13
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Posted - 2015.02.22 04:42:34 -
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Alena McJenkins wrote:Yes. Floatiness hair is silly.
Oh and while we're here, why not add more mohawks? I would pay massively for a mohawk reminiscent of a Roman helmet, or perhaps some liberty spikes. This wispy one irritates the forehead. Oh what about headwear? We already have facial implants in the AUR store, why not hats, helmets, and visors? |

Alena McJenkins
McJenkins' Saucy Shipwreckers LLC
10
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Posted - 2015.02.22 04:46:22 -
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Kabark wrote: Oh what about headwear? We already have facial implants in the AUR store, why not hats, helmets, and visors?
Yes indeed! I could go for a giant, ridiculous gibus, or a Soviet-like peaked visor cap. Or a fruit hat.
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Kabark
Caliburn Company Violent Declaration
14
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Posted - 2015.02.22 05:33:06 -
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Alena McJenkins wrote:Kabark wrote: Oh what about headwear? We already have facial implants in the AUR store, why not hats, helmets, and visors?
Yes indeed! I could go for a giant, ridiculous gibus, or a Soviet-like peaked visor cap. Or a fruit hat. Or a spiked Kaiser helmet that adds emphasis to Sansha ships! |

Colette Kassia
Kassia Industrial Supply
66
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Posted - 2015.02.22 07:25:38 -
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I seem like it would be more work to make it broken like this than it would be to make the final render exactly like in the portrait-maker-thing.
The physical simulation is done client-side. But they can't simply let the client do a screen capture, and send that to the server, because people would hack it and inject naughty pictures its place. So the server takes a summery of the user's settings and does a rendering server-side. But they don't want to spend the CPU cycles doing a full simulation on the server. Instead, they do an approximation with static meshes, and we get this. (This is my own hypothesis.)
But really, how may people are making portraits every second? They should have just whacked the client code into a little rendering program that renders the image (EXACTLY as the client does it) into a back buffer and saves it. |

FireFrenzy
Satan's Unicorns
229
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Posted - 2015.02.22 17:42:47 -
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i mean surely it cant be THAT hard to let it upload the picture to the server... Having the server render it in parallel would probably be trickier to pull off...
Assuming noone hax his client to get truely bizarre pictures in and that should be detectable somehow... |

Shallanna Yassavi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2015.02.22 19:13:55 -
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They probably don't trust our computers with our portraits because someone would figure out how to hack extra naughty things into them, or maybe a driver glitch/hack will cause all your clothes to disappear. Oops?
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Mournful Conciousness
Embers Children TOHA Conglomerate
829
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Posted - 2015.02.22 19:31:15 -
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I take it you are aware that a few years ago we the players went to war with CCP because they wanted to turn our game of 'blowing up spaceships' into a game of 'dressing up dolls'
 
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Kabark
Caliburn Company Violent Declaration
14
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Posted - 2015.02.22 21:27:42 -
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Mournful Conciousness wrote:I take it you are aware that a few years ago we the players went to war with CCP because they wanted to turn our game of 'blowing up spaceships' into a game of 'dressing up dolls'   As long as my Ken Doll has a Viking helmet and a long braided beard, I will happily go back to saving beautiful women and valuable riches from burning ships. |

Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
25432
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Posted - 2015.03.25 02:31:22 -
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Thanks for the posts of support, pilots.
'bout time I gave this a Banana Bump to the front page.
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FireFrenzy
Satan's Unicorns
285
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Posted - 2015.03.25 06:41:00 -
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I dunno i went to war with CCP because they wanted me to pay INFINITE MONEY for my barbie clothing... That was a bigger problem for me then the dress-up part... |

Sean Parisi
Fugutive Task Force A T O N E M E N T
672
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Posted - 2015.03.25 11:50:23 -
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Well, not everyone has access to the finest hair spray.
Luckily, I do. |

Lan Wang
Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi
259
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Posted - 2015.03.25 12:00:35 -
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+ 1 for nicer hair, i use short hair because i just couldnt get the long hair to work :(
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Alexei Stryker
Steiners Erben
68
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Posted - 2015.03.25 12:24:00 -
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Cool girls hair for guys please
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Elthiai Rhathe
Blue-Fire Great Blue Balls of Fire
1
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Posted - 2015.03.25 22:43:52 -
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bumping even though my hair is 0 G floaty in space >.> |

Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
26318
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Posted - 2015.04.03 01:30:02 -
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Elthiai Rhathe wrote:bumping even though my hair is 0 G floaty in space >.> Feels, Sista. 
And again, once more into the air with feeling. Just like my braids.
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Chibi Katana
Nighthawk Exploration Anoikis Ronin
95
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Posted - 2015.04.05 04:55:02 -
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Up to the top, just like my crop.
In the air, like our hair.
Encountered this yet again while making this character. Sure, I can turn off the effect in the creator to see how awkward it will look afterward, but that's not very inspirational. Let's give the feature new life and true purpose - allow the beauty of physically simulated hair to shine in our portraits.
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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
30800
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Posted - 2015.05.19 22:46:55 -
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Bump of relevance.
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Tomiko Kawase
Kite Co. Space Trucking
199
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Posted - 2015.05.20 00:00:57 -
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While on one hand I would love to see this feature implemented, I feel like the physically simulated part is preventing CCP from rolling out more avatar gear. In the roundtable I remember them complaining a bit about weighting the different pieces. I'd be ok with them scrapping it entirely if it meant more content at some point. They haven't released a single hair variant that's been weighted since Incarna (the emo cut, Amarr halo, and Gallente... thing?).
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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
30811
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Posted - 2015.05.20 00:14:52 -
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Tomiko Kawase wrote:While on one hand I would love to see this feature implemented, I feel like the physically simulated part is preventing CCP from rolling out more avatar gear. In the roundtable I remember them complaining a bit about weighting the different pieces. I'd be ok with them scrapping it entirely if it meant more content at some point. They haven't released a single hair variant that's been weighted since Incarna (the emo cut, Amarr halo, and Gallente... thing?). It's not so much a feature or really an implementation.
Just a change to rendered portraits appear.
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Tomiko Kawase
Kite Co. Space Trucking
199
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Posted - 2015.05.20 00:34:47 -
[38] - Quote
I mean that is a feature. It would probably require someone or even a few people a few weeks of time to implement. It's not like CCP has a switch on the server they flip (BUT WHAT IF THEY DID? ):).
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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
30811
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Posted - 2015.05.20 00:44:40 -
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Tomiko Kawase wrote:I mean that is a feature. It would probably require someone or even a few people a few weeks of time to implement. It's not like CCP has a switch on the server they flip (BUT WHAT IF THEY DID? ):). That's the thing, I guess. Beyond speculating, nobody really knows what's involved or why it doesn't already render in this way (server catches it in this way, just doesn't render it).
I'd like to see it changed, prior to more styles being implemented. Already enough awkward looking folks around with twisted or distorted hair. Don't want to make it even worse! 
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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
31414
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Posted - 2015.06.02 08:43:31 -
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Still an issue that could do with a response or a fix. 
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Samillian
Angry Mustellid The Periphery
832
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Posted - 2015.06.02 10:49:20 -
[41] - Quote
No hair, no problem.
Especially with pod goo.
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Cherri LeMew
Nighthawk Exploration Anoikis Ronin
16
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Posted - 2015.06.05 16:23:00 -
[42] - Quote
I support this hair raising lowering initiative.
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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
31631
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Posted - 2015.06.05 16:24:20 -
[43] - Quote
Thank you Cherri.
I knew you would understand.
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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
32082
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Posted - 2015.06.09 14:34:09 -
[44] - Quote
To the forefront of this section you go, thread.
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Teinyhr
Ourumur
453
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Posted - 2015.06.09 14:52:20 -
[45] - Quote
Signed, sealed, sent to the president. Wouldn't mind more long hairstyles, and I mean really long, at least waist length or longer. While we're at it, you should assign at least someone to fix some of many clipping issues, such as the 'Eternity' Suit Top going through your skin in several poses. And wouldn't mind free reign on hair color, give us a colour roulette please... With neon toggles and stuff.
But if you could just make the simulated hair happen in portraits, that'd be really swell in itself..
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Savi'eska
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
223
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Posted - 2015.06.14 10:18:39 -
[46] - Quote
I support this suggestion.
I'm wearing a vest purely to compensate for braid levitation.
Tó»
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Anna Phylaxxis
Gurlz with Gunz
1
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Posted - 2015.06.14 11:01:57 -
[47] - Quote
Yeah, the hair thing. Never turns out like when you made it. Fixxy pleez! |

Kali'ara
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
133
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Posted - 2015.06.17 03:07:38 -
[48] - Quote
Savi'eska wrote:I support this suggestion.
I'm wearing a vest purely to compensate for braid levitation.
x 2
+ 1
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Anna Phylaxxis
Gurlz with Gunz
4
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Posted - 2015.08.07 23:17:26 -
[49] - Quote
Aww, still no hair fixxy

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Anna Phylaxxis
Gurlz with Gunz
4
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Posted - 2015.08.07 23:38:07 -
[50] - Quote
It would be great if...
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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
35670
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Posted - 2015.08.25 04:17:02 -
[51] - Quote
Pew pew pew I'mma bump up dis thread 'coz dis issue it's messin' wit mah lil head Dis floaty hair dat make me wanna be dead So please yo Devs please fix dis hair instead
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Amber Patoria
Isogen 5
5034
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Posted - 2015.09.15 09:28:30 -
[52] - Quote
Up we go, to the top of the index and top of priorities in my dreams.
Candi LeMew > It doesn't have to make sense. It's just the way it is.
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Einsteins Daughter
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
37
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Posted - 2015.11.23 03:14:58 -
[53] - Quote
+1
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Dolorous Tremmens
The Scope Gallente Federation
132
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Posted - 2015.11.23 03:39:25 -
[54] - Quote
Yah, not going back to long hair until it looks like I'm a shampoo commercial hair model.
Get some Eve. Make it yours.
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Shallanna Yassavi
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
42
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Posted - 2015.11.23 10:51:38 -
[55] - Quote
I honestly don't think making the render-step client-side is going to fix anything. Just look at one of the long-and-flowing hairstyles-it hovers over and around your imaginary shoulders. Or the OP's ponytails: they hover in character preview mode for me.
Maybe it's different with another video card? DX9 mode? Major Windows revision?
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Cara Forelli
Meticulously Indifferent
1316
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Posted - 2015.11.23 19:03:18 -
[56] - Quote
+1 hair is frustrating
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Dixie McBitch
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.11.24 01:57:54 -
[57] - Quote
Yes, not being able to see the softened edges of the polygon mesh in the bangs would be good. I'd switch to short hair but I don't think I'd look as good. |

Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
37769
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Posted - 2015.11.27 02:18:12 -
[58] - Quote
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:I honestly don't think making the render-step client-side is going to fix anything. Just look at one of the long-and-flowing hairstyles-it hovers over and around your imaginary shoulders. Or the OP's ponytails: they hover in character preview mode for me.
Maybe it's different with another video card? DX9 mode? Major Windows revision? There's a setting in your client graphic settings to show/not show physically simulated hair & clothing.
I'm guessing you've turned yours off.
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Erica Dusette
Isogen 5
53336
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Posted - 2015.12.03 04:59:17 -
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I spent a while at the stylist last night. It reminded me of this issue.
There was also a recent bug in the character creator whereby avatars would appear without hair, makeup, skin textures (i.e. freckles) or their tops after they rendered. I was kinda excited and wondered if it was Devs playing around with the render system possibly even to address this very issue.
Sadly it seems not.
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Anna Phylaxxis
Gurlz with Gunz
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Posted - 2015.12.25 19:36:08 -
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All I want is some new hairstyles in 2016. and fixxy those braids puhleeze
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Erica Dusette
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Posted - 2016.01.03 05:42:26 -
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CCPlease.
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Taunrich Kaufmann
Caldari Executive Mining and Exploration
42
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Posted - 2016.01.03 14:52:39 -
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+1, and a few more hairstyles in the near future would be cool too 
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Velarra
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Posted - 2016.01.03 21:02:36 -
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Fully support. |

Sibyyl
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Squids
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Posted - 2016.01.03 22:30:06 -
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My apologies for not knowing about this thread.
This seems like a switch is missing at the portrait server.. not that the technology isn't there. I wonder what is the reason for not rendering physically simulated hair (or just honoring the switch in the game client).
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Pix Severus
Mew Age Outpaws
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Posted - 2016.01.06 01:19:51 -
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I wish to gaze upon my hairy chums in all their splendour, so please, CCP, make this happen.
However, I do prefer the sheen of a freshy shorn scalp, so if this change isn't implemented I would encourage all of you to shave your heads in protest.
Fortune favours the bald.
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
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Posted - 2016.01.06 07:13:14 -
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Pix Severus wrote:I wish to gaze upon my hairy chums in all their splendour, so please, CCP, make this happen.
However, I do prefer the sheen of a freshy shorn scalp, so if this change isn't implemented I would encourage all of you to shave your heads in protest.
Fortune favours the bald.
Okay, Vin Diesel. Btw, the Riddick set is over there. (Points to the door). Don't forget to bring that one wicked looking knife of your so you can keep that bald head of yours smoother than a baby's rump, you strange, hyper light sensitive, weirdo!
In all seriousness, can't really disagree with a request to make Eve look even more beautiful...it's inhabitants included. +1
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.01.06 10:48:55 -
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I agree with this.
Using the braids it's possible to hide the straps of tops allowing for different poses to appear naked, even compared to the catsuit, which is great too, but ... well, different.
Pffffff ...
Though I understand why this is unlikely to be happening. The physics are running locally. Having them server-side as well would increase the amount of time it would take the servers to render the pictures.
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Sointu Luonnotar
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
145
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Posted - 2016.01.11 13:51:46 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Though I understand why this is unlikely to be happening. The physics are running locally. Having them server-side as well would increase the amount of time it would take the servers to render the pictures.
I think the real reason for not applying physics simulation on portraits is to ensure a uniform look. With the "pre-rendered" states you at least know what you get whereas the portrait server might get a crazy hiccup while rendering physics and you end up with a braided beard and moustache and hairstrands poking through your eyes. I don't think the server strain regarding the simulation would be a problem anymore, certainly would have been during incarna release when everyone was redoing their characters. But that was years ago...
But seriously though whats up with the pre-determined colors, this would be, one would think, the simplest ways of adding extraordinary amount of flavor to the character creator - to have freely pickable colour roulette for hair, eye, makeup colours. Why can't I have neon green hair? Or navy blue? Or whatever. And it would be awesome if we could choose several scars instead of just one. Or several different piercing instead of preset ones. When it was released I thought the character creation revolutionary in sculpting options but today it seems very restricted and limited for no apparent reason. Like in Fallout 4 I could choose several scars if I so wanted, not just one going across my face but one through my lips and one more on my cheek. |

Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
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Posted - 2016.01.11 21:35:41 -
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How can I say no to this thread?
+1
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Solecist Project
Little Fat Mexican Appreciation Society
31336
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Posted - 2016.01.12 09:41:44 -
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Sointu Luonnotar wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Though I understand why this is unlikely to be happening. The physics are running locally. Having them server-side as well would increase the amount of time it would take the servers to render the pictures. I think the real reason for not applying physics simulation on portraits is to ensure a uniform look. With the "pre-rendered" states you at least know what you get whereas the portrait server might get a crazy hiccup while rendering physics and you end up with a braided beard and moustache and hairstrands poking through your eyes. That makes no sense whatsoever ... And I sincerely doubt they run the hair simulation on the CPU.
We'd notice that locally.
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Demica Diaz
SE-1
174
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Posted - 2016.01.12 12:02:43 -
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I would add on top of that. Let us "pose" our characters and lock poses so that when one uses "View Full Body" feature he or she will see that character posing. I already can imagine some creative people going ham on those!  |

Sointu Luonnotar
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
149
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Posted - 2016.01.12 23:36:49 -
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Solecist Project wrote:]That makes no sense whatsoever ... And I sincerely doubt they run the hair simulation on the CPU.
We'd notice that locally.
How does it not make sense? It ensures a certain look. I'm not privy to the details but the portrait service does render the picture somehow separately, that's why it takes so long to change your portrait, and I remember it having rendering problems previously - mainly by missing stuff like hair, clothes or eh, entire face. |

Zavia Uristis
Numvisia
0
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Posted - 2016.01.13 00:01:35 -
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Just wanted to show my support to this thread.  |

Airforce Annie
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2016.01.25 22:55:49 -
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dang, it doesn't show up here, but does in game. I was going to ask for a slow motion transition between saved poses so that you can get a better hair fling effect. it takes some doing, but if you have one extreme pose, and transition to another final pose, you can fling longer hair for a slightly more windblown look.
I'd really like pose-able hair as well, because a full blown little mermaid fling would be my thing, or ass-length hair in a swimming pool look, cause dammit, we're in space and null grav is sexy. Just cause internet spaceships are serious business doesn't mean we want to look all business.
More haircolors and styles, and take the damn character portrait creator out of the game for just the pictures. have cookie cutter stuff for WICQ( walking in captains quarters) but for pictures it should be incredibly customizable.
I would add more stuff but it would make it seem like i'm not serious, and I am. Also the limited selection of makeup styles and colors is kind of disapointing.
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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
39866
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Posted - 2016.01.25 23:06:14 -
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Thanks for the support, Ladies.
Airforce Annie wrote:dang, it doesn't show up here, but does in game. I was going to ask for a slow motion transition between saved poses so that you can get a better hair fling effect. it takes some doing, but if you have one extreme pose, and transition to another final pose, you can fling longer hair for a slightly more windblown look. That's because ingame you're viewing it in the character creator with physically simulated hair.
When you initially save that look it will appear in your portrait for a brief time, at least until the server renders it, then you will see a version without physically simulated hair ingame and here on the forums, like you do right now.
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Annexe
I N E X T R E M I S Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2016.01.31 00:45:49 -
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Sointu Luonnotar wrote: But seriously though whats up with the pre-determined colors, this would be, one would think, the simplest ways of adding extraordinary amount of flavor to the character creator - to have freely pickable colour roulette for hair, eye, makeup colours. Why can't I have neon green hair? Or navy blue? Or whatever.
As with the original UI,I really liked the RGB sliders. It really allowed players to create a look that they felt comfortable looking at all the time. Though we do have some good UI and character presets, being able to choose your own colours would be great.
+1 to the original post. And seeing as we are loosing the captain quarters with the new citadels, character portraits will be the only way of engaging and connecting with the characters we control.
I know there are die-hard vets that couldn't careless about the character portraits or cq, but they are not the only ones that play the game. I always thought it would be cool to have animated portraits that follow the animations in the cq/creator. Or, I can just picture my portrait snarling when someone starts to shoot at me, and laughing when they go pop :D
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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2016.01.31 02:51:55 -
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Annexe wrote:+1 to the original post. And seeing as we are loosing the captain quarters with the new citadels, character portraits will be the only way of engaging and connecting with the characters we control. Thanks for your support!
Though don't worry, we're not losing stations only POS towers.
So we'll still be able to kick back in our CQ like always when visiting a system with a station in it.
Maybe one day the door might even get opened.
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Anna Phylaxxis
Gurlz with Gunz
27
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Posted - 2016.04.27 14:16:40 -
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whoops, must have slipped and ended up here
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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2016.06.02 06:56:59 -
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Been a while so here's a bump for #thecause.
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