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Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.12.01 14:52:00 -
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Y/N? pls discuss CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS |

Drew Solaert
University of Caille Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2011.12.01 15:09:00 -
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No.
It's already far to easy to evade prober's and pirates, this would make it even harder from them |

B DeLeon
DeLeon Industries
6
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Posted - 2011.12.01 15:18:00 -
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+1
It wouldn't modify any core game mechanics just make scanning more comfortable. Pushing the scan every few seconds when a neut is in the system is just silly and funkiller. Or at least give a hotkey to the dscan button |

Hiram Alexander
Seraphim Securities
123
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Posted - 2011.12.01 15:21:00 -
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Drew Solaert wrote:No.
It's already far to easy to evade prober's and pirates, this would make it even harder from them +1 to the "No" idea. However...
I might be tempted to reconsider *IF* and only if, it was achieved through the use of a CPU intensive Mid-slot module... That way it would be compensated for by (self-gimping) to a degree... |

Vachir Khan
TriSeq Defence Group
81
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Posted - 2011.12.01 15:23:00 -
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I bet your bots would have it a lot easier if it was on auto repeat. (if you want, replace "bots" with "non-effort grinders", it's essentially the same thing anyway). Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
If MMORPG players were around when God said, "Let there be light" they'd have called the light gay and plunged the universe back into darkness by squatting their nutsacks over it. |

Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.12.01 15:32:00 -
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Vachir Khan wrote:I bet your bots would have it a lot easier if it was on auto repeat. (if you want, replace "bots" with "non-effort grinders", it's essentially the same thing anyway).
bots use server information, thye dont use the Dscan nor local window CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS |

Gempei
Siberian Khatru.
16
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Posted - 2011.12.01 15:36:00 -
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1. remove local, 2. autorepeat dscan  |

Soma Khan
State War Academy Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2011.12.01 15:36:00 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:Vachir Khan wrote:I bet your bots would have it a lot easier if it was on auto repeat. (if you want, replace "bots" with "non-effort grinders", it's essentially the same thing anyway). bots use server information, thye dont use the Dscan nor local window lol you are stupid and gullible
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Ujagar Sommdax
JotunHeim Hird Moon Warriors
1
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Posted - 2011.12.01 15:37:00 -
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Good for the prey, bad for the hunter. Bad idea. |

Krezly Snipes
Rekall Incorporated The Forsaken.
6
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Posted - 2011.12.01 15:39:00 -
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Would be cool to have some kind of rotating radar sweep in the corner, the current system is a bit clunky not really very futuristic.
Maybe combine it with the removal of local  |

Famble
Three's a Crowd
108
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Posted - 2011.12.01 15:49:00 -
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There's no doubt it should auto repeat, it's silly that it doesn't. -1 for the mid slot to effectively perform this for the user. Would your ship really need to sacrifice a slot to effectively press a button for the pilot? No, that's just silly.
Look I've been tapping that button forever so this won't make me any safer but it will make my life easier and better living through better software (and pharmaceuticals) is always a good thing.
Make it so already.
If anyone ever looks at you and says, "Hold my beer, watch this,"-á you're probably going to want to pay attention. |

Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
605
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Posted - 2011.12.01 15:56:00 -
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I live in a wormhole, so of course using DScan is second nature. Would an auto DScan thing make it easier? Yeah, sure. Is that a good thing? No, not really. There's supposed to be an element of danger out there. If you can't handle clicking DScan to give you the 14AU intel you want when you need it, perhaps you're not ready for anything outside of high sec yet. Six months in the hole... it changes a man. |

ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers
46
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Posted - 2011.12.01 15:56:00 -
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auto scan every 5 or 10 seconds and maybe a rework of the D-Scan interface would be nice. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
1820
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Posted - 2011.12.01 16:00:00 -
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Poor serverGǪ  GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |

Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
605
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Posted - 2011.12.01 16:15:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Poor serverGǪ 
Heh... odds are that I'm clicking faster than any automated thing would, but that's a seriously valid point... imagine everyone sending DScan clicks every few seconds to the server?
Ouch. Six months in the hole... it changes a man. |

IGNATIUS HOOD
Zephyr Corp V.A.S.T.
32
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Posted - 2011.12.01 16:15:00 -
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Ingvar Angst wrote:I live in a wormhole, so of course using DScan is second nature. Would an auto DScan thing make it easier? Yeah, sure. Is that a good thing? No, not really. There's supposed to be an element of danger out there. If you can't handle clicking DScan to give you the 14AU intel you want when you need it, perhaps you're not ready for anything outside of high sec yet.
Even with D-scan you can still get royally screwed. You have seconds to see someone on the warp in to a Sleeper sight.
Likely you have less than a minute if you're at a Mag/Lad/Grav becuase the predator needs probes unless they've scanned down the sites prior to you goign to work them.
Thats what makes it Fun. The threat of fiery death hangs over you every second you're outside of your POS shields.
+1 to the removal of Local in Null and LowSec though.
'perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim'
Be patient and tough; some day this pain will be useful to you. |

Serial Chi
Dust Bunnies 514
48
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Posted - 2011.12.01 16:27:00 -
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ccp should introduce probes that do it for you. probes you can drop wherever you are gonna hang out at. expire timer just like normal probes, configurable so you can set the timer on it. cant be picked up once launched and needs a high slot to launch to make sure you pay a price for using them.
its not the the fact thats its annoying to constantly hit that d scan every, almost all the time, its all the needless clicking/strain it can put your fingers/hand after long periods of time. i dont like botters but if ccp doesnt fix this, i dont see why people just wont create macros for it. |

Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
605
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Posted - 2011.12.01 16:31:00 -
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Serial Chi wrote:ccp should introduce probes that do it for you. probes you can drop wherever you are gonna hang out at. expire timer just like normal probes, configurable so you can set the timer on it. cant be picked up once launched and needs a high slot to launch to make sure you pay a price for using them.
its not the the fact thats its annoying to constantly hit that d scan every, almost all the time, its all the needless clicking/strain it can put your fingers/hand after long periods of time. i dont like botters but if ccp doesnt fix this, i dont see why people just wont create macros for it.
You know those little squeezy spring things you can use to strengthen your hands and fingers?
Yeah, they're cheap and effective. Six months in the hole... it changes a man. |

Aina O'Sinnor
Arklight Project Fade 2 Black
3
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Posted - 2011.12.01 16:37:00 -
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I support this idea. Hey this is a sci-fi game, a scanner running permanently is not that far fetched.
You tear harvesters starting to cry because numb rescanning gets easier for people? Go one step further, let a sound play when something new appears on DScan or make new entries bright green background which dissolves with every scan cycle, say after 10 seconds of scanning it's 'old' and not highlighted any more.
I'd also support putting local into delayed mode everywhere. |

Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
605
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Posted - 2011.12.01 17:24:00 -
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Aina O'Sinnor wrote:I support this idea. Hey this is a sci-fi game, a scanner running permanently is not that far fetched.
You tear harvesters starting to cry because numb rescanning gets easier for people? Go one step further, let a sound play when something new appears on DScan or make new entries bright green background which dissolves with every scan cycle, say after 10 seconds of scanning it's 'old' and not highlighted any more.
I'd also support putting local into delayed mode everywhere.
Dude, I live in a hole. Making DScan automated would help me and I think it's a bad idea. No tears, no whines, just the simple fact that some areas of the game don't need to be over-simplified. DScan is an active means of intel gathering, not passive. You want the data, you actively click to get the data. If they automated it, turned it to a passive intel, it would have to be nerfed significantly to balance it. Six months in the hole... it changes a man. |

Widemouth Deepthroat
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2011.12.01 17:38:00 -
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Would be awesome imo if they finally nerfed 0.0 local and brought in a totally redesigned d-scanner.
Give it a mode where it auto scans but is lower range and you can't pick up probes (or not?).
Give it a mode that can pick up cloaked ships but scan takes much longer to complete.
So many interesting things they could do. |

Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
608
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Posted - 2011.12.01 17:40:00 -
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Widemouth Deepthroat wrote:Would be awesome imo if they finally nerfed 0.0 local and brought in a totally redesigned d-scanner.
Give it a mode where it auto scans but is lower range and you can't pick up probes.
Give it a mode that can pick up cloaked ships but scan takes much longer to complete.
So many interesting things they could do.
Breaking cloaks by allowing them to be scanned is stupid on so many levels and breaks a lot of aspects of the game. Six months in the hole... it changes a man. |

Widemouth Deepthroat
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2011.12.01 17:42:00 -
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The only thing it would break is afk cloaking imo. |

Komen
Capital Enrichment Services
41
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Posted - 2011.12.01 17:52:00 -
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Widemouth Deepthroat wrote:The only thing it would break is afk cloaking imo.
And thus you reveal your ignorance. Let the education commence.
I dwell in a 'hole. For better or worse, my corp is kill-happy. We often have a cloaked scout sitting and watching things, at the keyboard, relaying intel. Barring biobreaks and suchlike, that cloaky can be out and about for a couple of hours. Even sat stationary for better than an hour. Any proposed probes/d-scan/whatever sweep that breaks cloak hurts active players as well.
Now you know.
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Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
608
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Posted - 2011.12.01 18:01:00 -
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Komen wrote:Widemouth Deepthroat wrote:The only thing it would break is afk cloaking imo. And thus you reveal your ignorance. Let the education commence. I dwell in a 'hole. For better or worse, my corp is kill-happy. We often have a cloaked scout sitting and watching things, at the keyboard, relaying intel. Barring biobreaks and suchlike, that cloaky can be out and about for a couple of hours. Even sat stationary for better than an hour. Any proposed probes/d-scan/whatever sweep that breaks cloak hurts active players as well. Now you know.
Hell, we've had cloaked intel inside holes we're planning to assault for weeks or longer on end gathering intel needed for a successful op. With the nerf to wormhole jump intel data (as in... it's gone now...) this becomes even more important. The only way we'll be able to determine active timezones, pilots, etc. is through direct, cloaked observation. Six months in the hole... it changes a man. |

Komen
Capital Enrichment Services
41
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Posted - 2011.12.01 20:34:00 -
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Ingvar Angst wrote:Komen wrote:Widemouth Deepthroat wrote:The only thing it would break is afk cloaking imo. And thus you reveal your ignorance. Let the education commence. I dwell in a 'hole. For better or worse, my corp is kill-happy. We often have a cloaked scout sitting and watching things, at the keyboard, relaying intel. Barring biobreaks and suchlike, that cloaky can be out and about for a couple of hours. Even sat stationary for better than an hour. Any proposed probes/d-scan/whatever sweep that breaks cloak hurts active players as well. Now you know. Hell, we've had cloaked intel inside holes we're planning to assault for weeks or longer on end gathering intel needed for a successful op. With the nerf to wormhole jump intel data (as in... it's gone now...) this becomes even more important. The only way we'll be able to determine active timezones, pilots, etc. is through direct, cloaked observation.
Not empty quotin'.
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Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:10:00 -
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how about an semi automatic? click once and it automates for the next 20? 30 sec? CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS |

Garnoo
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:19:00 -
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this would open wh doors for ratting/mining bots.... or you just want this  People are going to try to ruin your day. Get together with others, ruin their day back - this is EvE |

Ingvar Angst
Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
619
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:23:00 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:how about an semi automatic? click once and it automates for the next 20? 30 sec?
/facepalm
Just push the damned button. Six months in the hole... it changes a man. |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
306
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:33:00 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:Y/N? pls discuss
Bad idea.
1) Sometimes you want to keep the list that you d-scanned so you can report the intel somewhere.
2) It's a waste of bandwidth and processing power if you're not paying attention to it every time it spams.
3) If you are paying attention to it, then push the damn button yourself.
4) You'd miss seeing that cloaky ship come into system anyway as the one scan drew your attention to the list and the next scan erased the evidence after he'd cloaked.
5) It's just a dumb idea and you spent more time posting about it than you did thinking about it first.
Let your ideas rattle around in your head for a bit before sharing them. The bad ones will go away eventually.
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