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Benjamin Hamburg
Kernel of War
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.01 20:09:00 -
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Did'nt know that Erebus could dock |
Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
385
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Posted - 2011.12.01 20:13:00 -
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Benjamin Hamburg wrote:Did'nt know that Erebus could dock
Those erebus weren't docked. They had the stations docked in them.
Rated ARG for Pirates. **** you. |
Vedje
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2011.12.01 20:20:00 -
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Very useful
I got the same problem, just can't remember where my Erebuses are
The thing is so easy to misplace |
Jarin Arenos
Card Shark Industries
0
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Posted - 2011.12.01 20:43:00 -
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This is awesome. Kudos for continuing the new fixes past Crucible release. keep it up!
Also, boolean search, yes please. :D
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Redridt Naurna
The Imperial LansDrahd
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Posted - 2011.12.01 20:45:00 -
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is it just me or arent the search tags working?
At least for me the minimum search, i got a lot of stuff that i buy constantly and i usually pick em up when i pile reaches a certain size, but i just can get the minimum setting to work with the new search window. It does search and finds the item, but completely ignores the quanity of the item, meaning i got some 150 or so stations not worth my time that i cant sort through at all. |
Pinaculus
The High and Mighty
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Posted - 2011.12.01 21:01:00 -
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Wow, double plus LIKE!
And saved searches are now super easy. Just type the search in your Notepad and copy/paste. Love it!
And don't listen to the haters. Not everything needs a constricting array of a zillion check boxes. I miss the liberty of an elegant, well designed command-line interface.
I know sometimes it's difficult to realize just how much you spend on incidental things each month or year, but seriously, EVE is very cheap entertainment compared to most things... If you are a smoker, smoke one less pack a week and pay for EVE, with money left over to pick up a cheap bundle of flowers for the EVE widow upstairs. |
quygen
Acting Neutral
Panic.
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Posted - 2011.12.01 21:03:00 -
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Looking forward to things like
- Containers
- Corp Hangars
- Corp Deliveries
- In cargo? (Orca stuff, Ammo stuff)
Is this possible?
Been searching for that stack of trit that landed (*misclick*) in my inty for days...
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Wacktopia
Sicarius.
49
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Posted - 2011.12.01 21:41:00 -
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Can I .... eh.... can I borrow one of those Titans, Gaurd-y old chap?  |
Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2011.12.01 22:11:00 -
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Very nice and useful.
Now lets see a similar search/filter box on the overview! 
CSM - because I have not yet plumbed the depths of my inherent masochism!
CSM 6 Activities Summary | My CSM blog |
Rythm
True Power Team
3
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Posted - 2011.12.01 22:15:00 -
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Where is my gantry DUDE ?
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Tek Handle
Biotronics Inc.
The Initiative.
0
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Posted - 2011.12.01 23:00:00 -
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Well done CCP. |
Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris
Etherium Cartel
334
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Posted - 2011.12.01 23:03:00 -
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FUCKIN AWESOME!
Let us eat cake! -áI mean open containers in corp hangers please ...
Let us stack all modules (eliminate repackaging), except damaged ones, give them a red hue/icon.
Let us see damaged drones in our drone bay!
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Gevlin
SMANews.net
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Posted - 2011.12.01 23:41:00 -
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since this is a complicated feature and not that 'natural' for us retired foke can there be a web link on the bottom right corner of search box header that will load up the Eve Wiki in the in game browser box. So almost a "whats this" button.
Thinking about it putting a question mark next to the pin this window that would load up the wiki page describing the features and how to use to a it window it is addressing would be help full for all users of the game.
In the game tutorial have the tutorial program bring this to the attention of the Capsuleer
oh I am so puting this in the Ideas and features sections
I agree with several people: CCP needs to focus most of eve's recources on FIS, but the development of WIS still needs to continue, just as a slower and more efficient pace.
In eve I wish to be more than just a machine. |
Trimutius III
Avalon Guards
Gypsy Band
0
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Posted - 2011.12.02 00:15:00 -
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It would be much better if there were an option to exclude certain types or groups.
For example I sometimes make such a search through my assets:
Find everything that is in empire but not a rookie ship and not a shuttle.
(Just to go all over the place and gather my assets all over the empire)
This kind of search is useful for me. Trashing my shuttles and noobships isn't an option. 90% of them holds some memories and I'm a very sentimental person. But gathering noobships is a bother and i actually prefer my shuttles to be spread all over the place (so that I don't need to buy a new one every time I need a shuttle i will buy new one just 4 out of 5 times  )
Maybe you should add keywords:
excludetype
excludegroup
Pretty please |
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CCP Frellicus
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.02 00:56:00 -
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Gevlin wrote:since this is a complicated feature and not that 'natural' for us retired foke can there be a web link on the bottom right corner of search box header that will load up the Eve Wiki in the in game browser box. So almost a "whats this" button.
We do have designs that will integrate keyword hints and accessible in game documentation of the options but we where out of time to implement it. We agree that out of game documentation is not ideal at all. At least the functionality is there. I'm positive this will get some love in the coming weeks and/or months.
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CCP Frellicus
C C P
C C P Alliance
13
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Posted - 2011.12.02 01:03:00 -
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Trimutius III wrote:It would be much better if there were an option to exclude certain types or groups.
This is of interest to me also.
Skipping all Erebuses with sloppy paint jobs or a bad cooks would obviously be beneficial.
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Enhala
Ephemerid
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Posted - 2011.12.02 03:38:00 -
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Woohoo. Best new feature of the release.
Now, if you could fix the 2 annoying bugs of the asset window:
1. Sorting by number of items (in any tab, not just search) is reversed with locations with only 1 item at the top. Almost always the stations with the most items are what's of interest. This changed the last time the asset window was revised.
This wouldn't be that bad since I could just scroll to the bottom, except for:
2. The #$^@*!&^### bouncing to the top no matter how it's sorted. Especially annoying when sorted by jump and you're trying to sell off items 42 jumps away and just as you click on it ,poof, you are at the top again. This can happen every few seconds. Appears to happen every time something is sold or bought, since it increases after updating market orders, and greatly increases if selling minerals when you can get a heck of a lot of orders in a row.
It would greatly improve the usefulness of the window If you could make it so that it would not update or not move when updating. Since it's delayed 5 minutes anyway there seems no purpose.
As far as the minimum size of the asset window, narrower is better. One of my major uses of the window is for navigation when collecting all the crap scattered over the universe. It's still a bit wide for keeping open.
Any chance of adding grep searches? I can't think of any real use for it, but it would be way cool... |
Evenus Battuta
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Posted - 2011.12.02 03:39:00 -
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Ahh! a filter system!
Thank you for bringing this 'useability' feature with great potential.It is already great but since I guess you are aiming 'perfect',here is my advise to make it even better:
1. Additional keyword types:
----Race:A/C/G/M/sasha/angel,etc
----Slot:high/mid/low/dronebay/ship modification...
----Tech level min/max:1,2,3
----Damaged:Y/N
----Skill qualified:Y/N
----Distance from where I am min/max: jump numbers form where I am, this will become more important if you adopt this filter system to ,say market.
----In hanger or in cargo/container
----Overall invert filter: maybe can be done with a checkbox
----BPO/BPC
2.Change the metalevel keyword Metalevel into MetalevelMin and MetalevelMax.
3.Make a decent GUI to make these features accessable to more, and this time do it right the first XXX time. Football manager is a good example to follow FYI.
4.Please let us name and save our customized filter setting like we do with overview, and let us add multiple tabs in asset windows to use these customized settings.
5.Adopt this filter system to market please! The filters can bring EVE to a totally different league of usability.
6.maybe you can combine station item window and asset window into 1 with this system: current station is just a setting with Distance=0, so the item window can be made just a tab in asset window. |
Magic Crisp
Amarrian Micro Devices
Silent Infinity
6
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Posted - 2011.12.02 06:33:00 -
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CCP Frellicus wrote:Renan Ruivo wrote:But still no SMA and corp hangar search for wormholes dwellers. I"m afraid this is out of scope for what I have been working on but I'll raise the issue.
This is one of the thing that causes EveHQ's prism to be far superior to the ingame asset handlers. You can filter for groups, subgroups, corps, members, whatever, it searches among inspace POS modules, containers, ship storages (SMB, CHB, fittings), everything.
Once I was told that despite the remote R&D/manufacturing skill allows us according to its description to insert remote jobs, this doesn't work on POS structures because the ingame UI is unable to handle non-stations-stored items, so we still have to crawl to these structures and insert the jobs locally, though we have the skill to do it remotely. It just doesn't work.
It would be indeed time to both have the ingame asset handled as capable as evehq's prism, and to be able to handle our industry jobs remotely, even on POS structures (without involving stations). |
Magic Crisp
Amarrian Micro Devices
Silent Infinity
6
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Posted - 2011.12.02 06:41:00 -
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CCP Frellicus wrote:Pierced Brosmen wrote:Could parts of this keyword feature also be implemented in the Filter in hangars and container windows? Like if you have a container full of loot, you could type in the Filter metalevel:4 for example.
Would also be very usefull if the asset search could search for items inside containers or ship cargohold with keywords like container:true and cargo:true ? I'm asking this cause I find it a bit funny that 3'rd party applications can do that based on the API information, but the in-game search can't (at least the old one couldn't, haven't got around to test this new one yet). If this is generally well received we will be looking in to introducing filtering this to other places like corp assets and even inventory filters. As for the cargo and containers that has to do with nested database queries (read: lots of DB load) but why it differs from the 3rd party API is something I'll look into. Won't make any promises about that though.
Aslo, on ranges. Instead of min-max keywords, you could have search ranges.
Take this metalevel example. Instead of minmetalevel/maxmetalevel, this could be done with ranges.
metalevel:-4 (bellow and up to 4)
metalevel:2- (2 and above)
metalevel:3-12 (from 3 to 12)
This would be more usable, less keywords, more agility in searches, and less typing, more straightforward. |
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Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
313
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Posted - 2011.12.02 08:56:00 -
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CCP Frellicus wrote:That is sort of the point. The initial change was to simplify the interface. We don't want to clutter our interface with every conceivable search term in an assortment of tick boxes and drop down menus. When most people don't understand half of the options. Yet we want to allow power users to have access to those options. I agree that more can be done to present players with what options are available and we have plans to improve that.
That looks quite confusing, I might help power users, but only if they know of it existence. How will players find the keywords for this search when your devblog has disappeared?
A more advance menu with a thickbox for these options would be a much better way and clearer way to enhance the search experience.
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CCP Atlas
C C P
C C P Alliance
62
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Posted - 2011.12.02 09:16:00 -
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Ciar Meara wrote:That looks quite confusing, I might help power users, but only if they know of it existence. How will players find the keywords for this search when your devblog has disappeared?
A more advance menu with a thickbox for these options would be a much better way and clearer way to enhance the search experience.
As you can see from Frellicus' replies in this thread then the plan is to continue iterating on this. |
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Arkady Sadik
Gradient
Electus Matari
250
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Posted - 2011.12.02 09:21:00 -
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I love this, thank you!
And yes, please extend this to the corp assets. And make containers searchable, too. *happy* :-)
Thank you! :-) |
Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy
Important Internet Spaceship League
47
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:27:00 -
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This is super nice, however plz remember some of us have a serious memory leak regarding codes, so getting an advanced menu dropdown would indeed be epic.
Pinky |
Hykke
Free Imperial Vikings
Monkey Circus
0
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:58:00 -
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This is the first time in a long while that I read a DEV blog that I disliked.
I dislike it for the following reasons:
- Where is the option to search inside / outside cans?
- What about items inside POS hangars? can we search them?
- I read the entire article, and all I could think while reading was: How did they dock those Erebus inside stations?
Picking the Erebus as the example is the absolutely worst possible choice...
- Absolutely no user friendlyness.
Inventing a strange syntax for searching reminds me of how the old internet search engines used to work before 1995.
You might argue that EVE is not supposed to be "User friendly" but why not?
Read http://blog.caspio.com/web-database/7-tips-for-creating-user-friendly-search-forms/
You could place a dropdown icon next to the search textbox, that would open a window with actual labelled text fields
where the user could enter each search term. This is much more user friendly than having us learn strange keywords
- I do agree that some of the search screens have become somewhat difficult to use because of all the search options
(At times it's even difficult to find contracts assigned directly to yourself)
But this "solution" to the problem is even worse
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Zi'Boo
Zi'Corp
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:30:00 -
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What's the difference between security:zero and security:null ? |
ISquishWorms
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:50:00 -
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Very nice. Can we search inside containers? |
Diosas
Comply Or Die
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Posted - 2011.12.02 15:01:00 -
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at long last!!! sometimes i just want to know what ships I have, its been impossible to do this.. God i hope i can now |
Experiment H197
Dark Wolf Industries
0
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Posted - 2011.12.02 15:14:00 -
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Quick question since I can't log in and check since I'm at work...
I remember a long time back trying to search for one of my ships by what I named it and it didn't seem to work. Was a feature like that ever added? I still have trouble remembering the type names, especially if it's been a while since I've logged on due to RL, but I always remember what I named it. It would be nice to say, "hmm... where did I have Bebop docked?" and just search for "Bebop" in the search field.
If it'll do it now then awesome! If not, then it would be awesome! lol :) |
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CCP Frellicus
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.02 15:25:00 -
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Zi'Boo wrote:What's the difference between security:zero and security:null ?
absolutely none... except for the spelling
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