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Shelom Severasse
Burning Alder
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Posted - 2015.02.23 04:45:22 -
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Jallukola wrote:Yes it's a bit early to talk about this, but I wonder what sort of bonuses should the ship see. Purists and history lovers would argue missile systems over hybrids, but I think Claradi has already plenty of missile boats at disposal, and Caldari deserves more hybird platform love IMO.
When the time comes, Gallente can keep their drone bonuses for all I care like they have for ages already, but I think purism with Caldari's T3 would be a waste.
But I also feel this would be a perfect opportunity to break a certain formula; Yes all 4 factions have access to Drone capabilities, and out of the 4 factions, 3 have Missile ships. Perharps CCP should blow a hole unto this titanic instead let it be miscruised. Give Caldari their Hybrid bonuses in time, but make Gallente's T3 Destroyer a Missile Ship. this is a horrible idea.
amarr should be laser oriented minmatar should be projectile oriented caldari should be missile oriented and gallente should be hybrid oriented |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
3184
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Posted - 2015.02.23 05:14:16 -
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my bets are on 50km AOE ECM burst in defense mode
how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
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scorchlikeshiswhiskey
Totally Abstract
378
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Posted - 2015.02.23 05:23:19 -
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Shelom Severasse wrote:Jallukola wrote:Yes it's a bit early to talk about this, but I wonder what sort of bonuses should the ship see. Purists and history lovers would argue missile systems over hybrids, but I think Claradi has already plenty of missile boats at disposal, and Caldari deserves more hybird platform love IMO.
When the time comes, Gallente can keep their drone bonuses for all I care like they have for ages already, but I think purism with Caldari's T3 would be a waste.
But I also feel this would be a perfect opportunity to break a certain formula; Yes all 4 factions have access to Drone capabilities, and out of the 4 factions, 3 have Missile ships. Perharps CCP should blow a hole unto this titanic instead let it be miscruised. Give Caldari their Hybrid bonuses in time, but make Gallente's T3 Destroyer a Missile Ship. this is a horrible idea. amarr should be laser oriented minmatar should be projectile oriented caldari should be missile oriented and gallente should be hybrid oriented Firstly, let me say that I would be thrilled if the Caldari D3 is missile oriented. Now, with that out of the way I do not expect it to be. Call me a pessimist but I fully expect it to be a mini-Naga, fitting rails and getting a bonus to optimal in sharpshooter, or some other bonus that serves the Caldari seconday weapon system of hybrids. If it is not a mini-Naga, which I doubt, but instead is a missile boat I expect it will be largely underpowered and niche, and overall better off forgotten since it it my personal opinion that there are those at CCP who are not big fans of missiles. Now, that might seem like a rant, and it is, but I think it will probably prove to be accurate. Unless they go really wonky and make it some sort of EWAR boat, in which case the better decision will likely, as it always is, to bring a Falcon.
What would I like to see? Well, if it is a LML boat the forums will alight with cries of OP before there are 10 of them in game, so it would have to be a rocket boat to even have a chance. Sharpshooter should increase rocket range significantly, I would prefer rocket velocity over flight time. Defensive mode is tricky, but missiles are usually touted as a small gang ship, benefiting from help, so why not give it a boost to the increase from shield extenders in defensive mode? This would let it survive until reps land without the **** storm of giving it resists. As for the zippy mode, I really have no idea.
As always, have a nice day |
Doctor Knuckles
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
107
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Posted - 2015.02.23 15:19:04 -
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i would love if they went crazy and did a mini naga. a true mini naga. as in, medium guns on a dessie, making it more of a cruiser pack hunter rather than a frig genocide machine like the rest of the dessies. ss mode (renamed "imma murder you" mode), activating bonus to medium guns (crappy unbonused in other modes), defensive mode and speed mode there pretty much to get in optimal range and oh sh!t button
but, realistically, i'm expecting something like, bonus to shield boost in def mode / reduction in shield boost cap cost, bonus to point range in sharpshooter mode since they already did gun range and tracking bonus.
speed mode, well, it being a squid ship, i'm gonna expect some sort of warp core stabs like bonus |
Cephelange du'Krevviq
Senex Legio The Old Contemptibles
274
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Posted - 2015.02.23 18:01:46 -
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First - hybrids are not the Caldari "secondary weapon system." It's just as much a Caldari primary weapon system as missiles.
For that reason, I hope the Caldari T3 is hybrid/rail based; maybe a tracking bonus in sharpshooter mode (since we know rails have fairly horrible tracking - not the worst, but not great). Defense mode, I think either a shield resist bonus or perhaps cap usage reduction on shield booster use. Propulsion mode - I like the idea of a warp speed bonus - not as fast as an interceptor, obviously, but maybe on par or a little faster than your basic frigates.
"I am a leaf on the...ah, frak it!"
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Oscae
Kitchen Sink Kapitals
27
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Posted - 2015.02.24 09:13:06 -
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I really hope it's a missile boat, what with missiles being the primary Caldari weapons system, I think there are too many hybrid Caldari boats as is and I would not like to see the D3 become another.
It just becomes a wasted opportunity, like the Naga, which would have put a cruise/torp BC into the game but now we have two hybrid boats where you either chose range or damage.
I couldn't deal if there were two hybrid D3s it would just make them bland and uninteresting, at least to me.
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Caleb Seremshur
The Atomic Fallout Kids
485
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Posted - 2015.02.24 11:33:21 -
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If the caldari D3 does get missiles then it should get a missile speed and range bonus in sharp shooter mode, as well as a reduction to missile explosion radius.
as for what else it get's I frankly couldn't give a damn, the biggest problem with missile vessels has always been targets outrunning your missiles (which is patently ridiculous, the acceleration of a missile in vacuum would be many times higher than a ship and the top speed over a given distance would be much higher too)
Faction warfare pilot and solo/small gang PVP advocate
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Garnoo
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
130
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Posted - 2015.02.24 12:22:22 -
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ccp will troll caldari community once again with hybrid-guns hull :D
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Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1596
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Posted - 2015.02.24 15:46:42 -
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Bienator II wrote:my bets are on 50km AOE ECM burst in defense mode
If the ECM strenght on this burst was high, I can already feel my teeth shredding to dust as I grind them while resisting the urge to scream at people bitching about logi not repping them... |
Kamahl Daikun
Back To Basics.
42
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Posted - 2015.02.25 00:01:50 -
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I hope it's an ECM Boat.
Biggest problem with ECM Boats is how paper thin they are. Most mid slots are going to ECM with 1-2 left over to prop and enough buffer to not get one-shotted.
T3 Dessie's Defense Mode should give a bonus to ECM. Also enough Lows to Armor Tank. Speed won't be a problem in Prop mode. Sniper mode could give something stupid like 100km+ ECM Projection.
Because when you have 1 tank mod, range and speed help. |
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Jallukola
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Posted - 2015.02.25 00:07:11 -
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Perharps this is just what New Eden needs, a pocket sized Scorpion. Getting primaried wouldn't hurt that much either, 'cause quicker to leg it.
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Zorni Kat'chu
CosmoTeK LTD La Division Bleue
0
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Posted - 2015.02.25 21:27:43 -
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I doubt that because the other T3 did not receive a bonus on their E-War racial bonuses.
My guess would be a missile boat with some speed bonus on the missiles (like the Garmur or Orthrus) or a bonus on the explosion velocity to make it a snipping monster against frigs.
But I would really like a railgun boat just because I love railgun.
Anyway, I will fly this ship regardless of it's bonuses and I would love a sneak peak at the final design ! |
AOSA
Atreidun Order
4
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Posted - 2015.02.26 06:13:58 -
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CCP wants to break the monotony of the typical ship systems but then they don't. I have to say I like this talk of an ECM destroyer. or Smartbomb. LOLz. Heads will roll and hearts will burst from that one if it were to happen.
Also, mega veldspar asteroids/ice comets as probable large Ore Sites FTW! |
Claud Tiberius
Fidelas Constans
100
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Posted - 2015.02.26 09:48:10 -
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The Caldari Tactical Destroyer will probably be a missile boat. I hope. Rockets and Light Missiles galore.
Because the Confessor has energy turrets (primary weapon system for Amarr) and the Svipul has projectile turrets (primary weapon system for Minmatar). So with the primary weapon system for Caldari being missiles, its only logical the destroyer will have missiles. Gallente will probably be a mix of hybrid and drones, or just fully drones.
Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end.
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Flash Thomson
Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate
27
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Posted - 2015.03.26 14:49:18 -
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Any news on this? I was expecting the Caldari Dessi to come with the next release, but nothing was announced;( Did I miss something?
Tanking since 1982
Reporting Caldari Faction Warfare news on
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Chenguang Hucel-Ge
Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate
21
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Posted - 2015.03.26 16:51:52 -
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Caldari one will be pale rail sniper.
Gallente will be ******** overpowered overtanked heavy plate capable death machine with drones, utility slots and generous fitting options, gaining ability to chase ceptors with heavy drones in "Sharpshooter" mode, permarunning 10MN MWD in propulsion mode and getting resists both to armor and hull in defence mode. Offcourse, every user of it will claim that it's "perfectly balanced", that it takes high skills to fly them perfectly and that it's hard to fly since you don't just let the dogs drones out on it. |
Liam Inkuras
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
1498
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Posted - 2015.03.26 17:40:08 -
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Did you even listen to anything at all from fanfest?
I wear my goggles at night.
Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1332
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Posted - 2015.03.26 18:46:36 -
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Liam Inkuras wrote:Did you even listen to anything at all from fanfest?
Oh come on, it's not like they laid out exactly what the bonuses would be for both the Jackdaw and Hecate. I don't even think they gave them names or revealed what they look like.
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Flash Thomson
Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate
27
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Posted - 2015.03.26 19:20:32 -
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I was on vacation, tried to catch up... But there is quite a lot of video material to scan through if you are just looking for this bit of information =D And yea was wondering of looks, weapons, release...
Tanking since 1982
Reporting Caldari Faction Warfare news on
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1332
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Posted - 2015.03.26 19:36:35 -
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Flash Thomson wrote:I was on vacation, tried to catch up... But there is quite a lot of video material to scan through if you are just looking for this bit of information =D And yea was wondering of looks, weapons, release...
Stats
Looks
The Cal one, the Jackdaw, comes out in June. The Gal D3, the Hecate, is penciled in for release in July.
Hope you had a nice vacation
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Flash Thomson
Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate
27
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Posted - 2015.03.26 22:15:40 -
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Ned Thomas wrote:Flash Thomson wrote:I was on vacation, tried to catch up... But there is quite a lot of video material to scan through if you are just looking for this bit of information =D And yea was wondering of looks, weapons, release... StatsLooksThe Cal one, the Jackdaw, comes out in June. The Gal D3, the Hecate, is penciled in for release in July. Hope you had a nice vacation
Thank you!
Vac was greaT :)
Tanking since 1982
Reporting Caldari Faction Warfare news on
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Alexstrazaas
Perkone Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2015.03.26 23:27:25 -
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I am a caldari....
AND I HOPE TO GOD IT'S A HYBRID BOAT!
i got maxxed out hybrid skills.
**** MISSILES! i was using hybrids before they were even buffed |
Flash Thomson
Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate
27
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Posted - 2015.03.27 11:13:15 -
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Alexstrazaas wrote:I am a caldari....
AND I HOPE TO GOD IT'S A HYBRID BOAT!
i got maxxed out hybrid skills.
**** MISSILES! i was using hybrids before they were even buffed
As I used to be a Caldari Mission Pilot, with great Missile skills, I decided to max out missiles just in case =D
Tanking since 1982
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scorchlikeshiswhiskey
Totally Abstract O X I D E
384
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Posted - 2015.03.27 16:11:21 -
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Flash Thomson wrote:Alexstrazaas wrote:I am a caldari....
AND I HOPE TO GOD IT'S A HYBRID BOAT!
i got maxxed out hybrid skills.
**** MISSILES! i was using hybrids before they were even buffed As I used to be a Caldari Mission Pilot, with great Missile skills, I decided to max out missiles just in case =D Just in case missiles became slightly relevant again? lol I'm just glad it's not a mini-Naga hybrid boat, that would be the last thing we need and would, in my opinion, show clear bias on the part of the Devs/balance team |
McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
521
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Posted - 2015.03.27 16:17:34 -
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It will almost definitely be a missile boat since the Confessor and Svipul are gun boats and Gallente do not fit missiles. I cannot imagine them leaving out missiles entirely from the D3 lineup.
edit - Ah, they did announce the stats.
There are all our dominion
Bookmarks in overview ~ Fleet improvements
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Hagika
Doughboys Snuffed Out
287
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Posted - 2015.03.28 01:14:19 -
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Ned Thomas wrote:Flash Thomson wrote:I was on vacation, tried to catch up... But there is quite a lot of video material to scan through if you are just looking for this bit of information =D And yea was wondering of looks, weapons, release... StatsLooksThe Cal one, the Jackdaw, comes out in June. The Gal D3, the Hecate, is penciled in for release in July. Hope you had a nice vacation
Hmm gallente one will have a massive tank and the caldari one is horribly weak and missiles tend to suck..I had hopes for it being a rail boat but seems ccp loves for caldari to suck. |
Niobe Song
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
63
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Posted - 2015.03.28 07:40:22 -
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Alexstrazaas wrote:I am a caldari....
AND I HOPE TO GOD IT'S A HYBRID BOAT!
i got maxxed out hybrid skills.
**** MISSILES! i was using hybrids before they were even buffed
Just level Gallente Destroyers to 5 and use that one. Only takes about a week of training. |
Alexstrazaas
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.28 16:47:32 -
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Niobe Song wrote:Alexstrazaas wrote:I am a caldari....
AND I HOPE TO GOD IT'S A HYBRID BOAT!
i got maxxed out hybrid skills.
**** MISSILES! i was using hybrids before they were even buffed Just level Gallente Destroyers to 5 and use that one. Only takes about a week of training.
already have that as i had destroyer 5 before they split it |
Darth Bex
Sudden Buggery Prolapse.
19
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Posted - 2015.03.30 02:36:16 -
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We can be certain of one thing. It won't have enough CPU.
Because.... why start now? |
scorchlikeshiswhiskey
Totally Abstract O X I D E
387
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Posted - 2015.03.31 01:20:53 -
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Darth Bex wrote:We can be certain of one thing. It won't have enough CPU.
Because.... why start now? All you need to do is fit a Co-Processor in half of your low slots and you'll be fine, just like a Corax or Flycatcher. And by fine I mean a novelty. |
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