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LordSpook Anpumesses
From Both Sides
The Bastard Cartel
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Posted - 2015.02.20 05:04:56 -
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A few of you know me, most prolly dont, I have lived in Placid and Black Rise (Gal/Cal FW space) for over 2 years now and the last few months there has been a major decline in solo fighting, compared to what it use to be its practically non-exsistant. Its become more of a blob fest of null sec style. Now some time last year some there was a lot of whining and crying about cloaky warp stabbed ships and how they should be banned some how and make the plex rats respawn like crack addicts to encourage more solo pvp, will how did that work out for ya? most of you prolly arent even in low anymore prataking in solo pvp are ya? (most prolly werent even out here to begain with) at the time people that lived out here said it was a bad idea with loads of reasons why and just about all of them came true didnt they?
I for one would like to see the glory days of low sec fighting return but it means kill board ***** mite have to get alittle butthurt once in awhile cause there may be a player thats doesnt want to get insta popped to their 3 times boosted deadspace fit whatever ship and just simply cloaks or warps off. OOORRRRR we continue to slowly bleed low sec solo players and pretty much become just another null sec region with out the sav.
I really love saying this in game and RL but WE TOLD YOU SO! :P
yes half the words are prolly misspelled but i dont care,
o7
-LrdSpk |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
22499
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Posted - 2015.02.20 05:07:37 -
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What's the second M in MMO again?
I don't think it stands for Solo.
Friendship is the best ship.
Sabriz for CSM go go go
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Bullet Therapist
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
261
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Posted - 2015.02.20 05:30:35 -
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Other people don't have to solo for you to solo, if that's your aim. Just go out and do it. There are plenty of ships that are suitable for separating gangs and picking off outliers if you're worried about running into gangs. |
metalravenous
S0utherN Comfort
DARKNESS.
62
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Posted - 2015.02.20 05:36:32 -
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LordSpook Anpumesses wrote:A few of you know me, most prolly dont, I have lived in Placid and Black Rise (Gal/Cal FW space) for over 2 years now and the last few months there has been a major decline in solo fighting, compared to what it use to be its practically non-exsistant. Its become more of a blob fest of null sec style. Now some time last year some there was a lot of whining and crying about cloaky warp stabbed ships and how they should be banned some how and make the plex rats respawn like crack addicts to encourage more solo pvp, will how did that work out for ya? most of you prolly arent even in low anymore prataking in solo pvp are ya? (most prolly werent even out here to begain with) at the time people that lived out here said it was a bad idea with loads of reasons why and just about all of them came true didnt they?
I for one would like to see the glory days of low sec fighting return but it means kill board ***** mite have to get alittle butthurt once in awhile cause there may be a player thats doesnt want to get insta popped to their 3 times boosted deadspace fit whatever ship and just simply cloaks or warps off. OOORRRRR we continue to slowly bleed low sec solo players and pretty much become just another null sec region with out the sav.
I really love saying this in game and RL but WE TOLD YOU SO! :P
yes half the words are prolly misspelled but i dont care,
o7
-LrdSpk
Maybe they just aren't interested in playing with you and would rather do something important. |
P3ps1 Max
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
13
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Posted - 2015.02.20 05:52:06 -
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Too much ambiguity and variations in SP's for me and other friends I've talked to regarding pvp and solo fights. There needs to be some bench mark or level system in regards to a players points. Yes a dude with 70 million SP will rofl stomp the dude with 7million. With damage modifiers maxed out along with general resists (defenses) maxed out, why bother as a new player? Stroke the veterans ego? No thanks!
i.e for every 10 million sp you earn you'd gain a level. Just an idea?=ƒÿù |
metalravenous
S0utherN Comfort
DARKNESS.
62
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Posted - 2015.02.20 05:54:46 -
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P3ps1 Max wrote:Too much ambiguity and variations in SP's for me and other friends I've talked to regarding pvp and solo fights. There needs to be some bench mark or level system in regards to a players points. Yes a dude with 70 million SP will rofl stomp the dude with 7million. With damage modifiers maxed out along with general resists (defenses) maxed out, why bother as a new player? Stroke the veterans ego? No thanks!
i.e for every 10 million sp you earn you'd gain a level. Just an idea?=ƒÿù
No |
Serene Repose
2273
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Posted - 2015.02.20 06:13:32 -
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Sibyyl wrote:
What's the second M in MMO again?
I don't think it stands for Solo.
m o r o n?
Treason never prospers. What is the reason?
Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
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HeXxploiT
Little Red X
100
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Posted - 2015.02.20 06:35:42 -
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Sibyyl wrote:
What's the second M in MMO again?
I don't think it stands for Solo.
How is 1v1 solo? That's called multiplayer. Ratting is solo. Learn the difference. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
6054
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Posted - 2015.02.20 06:39:48 -
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All you need is a Falcon alt, a Curse alt and a off-grid booster alt. Now you can do solo PvP.
Alternatively, get a few off-grid boosters, go to one of the trade hubs and offer 'fair' 1v1 frigate fights, then brag all the time about your 'legit' 95% killboard ratio.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
22501
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Posted - 2015.02.20 06:56:07 -
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HeXxploiT wrote:
How is 1v1 solo? That's called multiplayer. Ratting is solo. Learn the difference.
I'm sure you understand the term "solo PVP" as being distinct and different from PVPing against opponents with some friends. If you want to make some kind of semantic point about the term, then take it up with OP who named the thread.
I didn't see you dispute my statement. Having friends on your side is better than going at it alone.
Friendship is the best ship.
Sabriz for CSM go go go
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Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
200
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Posted - 2015.02.20 07:44:11 -
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P3ps1 Max wrote:Too much ambiguity and variations in SP's for me and other friends I've talked to regarding pvp and solo fights. There needs to be some bench mark or level system in regards to a players points. Yes a dude with 70 million SP will rofl stomp the dude with 7million. With damage modifiers maxed out along with general resists (defenses) maxed out, why bother as a new player? Stroke the veterans ego? No thanks!
i.e for every 10 million sp you earn you'd gain a level. Just an idea?=ƒÿù
Or you could learn to play and understand how SP actually works. Wherein a newish 7mil sp player invested into there ship of choice is equivellant to a 70 mil sp character invezted into the same because you can only invezt so much into each ship. |
Mildew Wolf
228
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Posted - 2015.02.20 07:52:11 -
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There's still plenty of potential to solo. Black rise used to be good because it was relatively quiet |
Shin Jan
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
19
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Posted - 2015.02.20 11:43:19 -
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Mildew Wolf wrote:There's still plenty of potential to solo. Black rise used to be good because it was relatively quiet
Oh ! You mean suicide ganking and high sec miner bumping ? Very interesting Gameplay, tears are especially delicious. |
CerN Frostwolf
The Rising Stars
Tactical Narcotics Team
15
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Posted - 2015.02.20 11:58:40 -
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Hm.. I've been doing quite a lot of solo-pvp in placid lately, and I honestly don't feel like it has declined much at all. |
Mr Duffo
Perimeter Defense Systems
Templis CALSF
75
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Posted - 2015.02.20 13:22:09 -
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Yes Ive also noticed a lot less small gang/solo action. Could roam for hours and find only stabbed farmers around black rise and citadel |
Suitonia
Genos Occidere
Warlords of the Deep
448
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Posted - 2015.02.20 13:31:58 -
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Solo PvP is still alive and well
Contributer to Eve is Easy:
https://www.youtube.com/user/eveiseasy/videos
Solo PvP is possible with a 20 day old character! :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvOB4KXYk-o
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP
The Marmite Collective
1992
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Posted - 2015.02.20 13:57:58 -
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I think they are now all playing solo together. 
TORA FOR CSM X - A NEW HIGH-SEC
YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - DELETE THE WEAK , ADAPT OR DIE !
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Diemos Hiaraki
Perkone
Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2015.02.20 14:10:45 -
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I think a lot of solo players are operating out of Thera since you can pretty much roam everywhere from there. I've not seen any of the more notorious soloists from around my neck of the woods in a while, but their killboards are geographically all over the place - they're certainly still active. |
Gregor Parud
Ordo Ardish
1185
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Posted - 2015.02.20 14:34:43 -
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You can solo just fine on low SP in a cheapo frigate and do well, even against more than one targets it can be done if you play your cards right. |
Mirime Nolwe
Mantra of Pain
110
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Posted - 2015.02.20 14:40:06 -
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I have been away from EVE for the last 2 years. I decided to PLEX one month just to see how the game have evolved in the last years and god.. in the forum it's the same philosophical crap over and over again.
If you want to play alone and try some action in pvp just handle the consequences and the time invested searching for something that you enjoy. The rest will play the way they want and if you have a hard time finding someone alone to pew pew, maybe, just maybe, you are doing it wrong.
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Glathull
Warlock Assassins
942
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Posted - 2015.02.20 14:45:00 -
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Sibyyl wrote:
What's the second M in MMO again?
I don't think it stands for Solo.
I thought it stood for masturbat1on. And that's solo by definition.
They call it sex when it's multiplayer. At least, I think that's how it works.
I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
Shut up, Anslo. --everyone
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9841
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Posted - 2015.02.20 14:53:31 -
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LordSpook Anpumesses wrote:A few of you know me, most prolly dont, I have lived in Placid and Black Rise (Gal/Cal FW space) for over 2 years now and the last few months there has been a major decline in solo fighting, compared to what it use to be its practically non-exsistant. Its become more of a blob fest of null sec style. Now some time last year some there was a lot of whining and crying about cloaky warp stabbed ships and how they should be banned some how and make the plex rats respawn like crack addicts to encourage more solo pvp, will how did that work out for ya? most of you prolly arent even in low anymore prataking in solo pvp are ya? (most prolly werent even out here to begain with) at the time people that lived out here said it was a bad idea with loads of reasons why and just about all of them came true didnt they?
I for one would like to see the glory days of low sec fighting return but it means kill board ***** mite have to get alittle butthurt once in awhile cause there may be a player thats doesnt want to get insta popped to their 3 times boosted deadspace fit whatever ship and just simply cloaks or warps off. OOORRRRR we continue to slowly bleed low sec solo players and pretty much become just another null sec region with out the sav.
I really love saying this in game and RL but WE TOLD YOU SO! :P
yes half the words are prolly misspelled but i dont care,
o7
-LrdSpk
EVE launched on May 3, 2003. Solo pvp died on May 4, 2003. You must not have read the 12 year old memo yet. |
Gregor Parud
Ordo Ardish
1185
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Posted - 2015.02.20 14:53:59 -
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Glathull wrote:Sibyyl wrote:
What's the second M in MMO again?
I don't think it stands for Solo.
I thought it stood for masturbat1on. And that's solo by definition. They call it sex when it's multiplayer. At least, I think that's how it works.
Suddenly it all makes sense why EVE is so full of jerkoffs. |
Toriessian
Helion Production Labs
Independent Operators Consortium
366
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Posted - 2015.02.20 15:25:06 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki4VhqUWr0A
Solo seems fine to me. You just have to be ballsy.
Booster addiction is a wonderful thing
The Booster Addict - IOC's Blog
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9844
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Posted - 2015.02.20 15:28:18 -
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Toriessian wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki4VhqUWr0A
Solo seems fine to me. You just have to be ballsy.
+1
Marlona Sky is soloing in a freaking INDUSTRIAL. This demonstrates the fact that the 'Death of Solo PVP' is actually caused by lazy people being un-creative and then blaming the game for their personal failing, not some problem with the game. |
Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
294
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Posted - 2015.02.20 15:29:58 -
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I solo... well i try to sometimes. I am getting better in that i don't just die in a blue ball of death every second gate. But it is well known that getting a good solo fight is bloody hard work and takes a lot of lost ships.
Oh and i do real solo. No links. No scouts. Just me, Leroy and the happy drug fairy... (seriously just one time i want no neg effects! )
Death and Glory!
Well fun is also good.
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BoBoZoBo
Paragon Fury
Tactical Narcotics Team
517
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Posted - 2015.02.20 15:57:25 -
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Sibyyl wrote:
What's the second M in MMO again?
I don't think it stands for Solo.
If you are fighting another player, it is not a solo operation. It takes two to tango.
Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite
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Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
377
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Posted - 2015.02.20 18:17:30 -
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P3ps1 Max wrote:Too much ambiguity and variations in SP's for me and other friends I've talked to regarding pvp and solo fights. There needs to be some bench mark or level system in regards to a players points. Yes a dude with 70 million SP will rofl stomp the dude with 7million.
If the dude with 70 mil has industry and science skills and just recently skilled up his cruiser he can easily be the one roflstomped.
A character with 5 million SPs focussed in the ship he's flying will have a more than even chance against a character who has 100 million, only 4 million of which are applicable to the ship they're in.
A character with 5 million SPs and the Player skills to maximise their ship will make a 50 mil SP "combat specialist" who doesn't into a comedy kill-mail.
You will lose ships as you're learning - so choose cheap ships and lose them. Lose ten or so and you'll probably be getting close fights, lose twenty and you'll be winning some of them - even if you're opponent is ten years old. |
Renegade Heart
Novus Ordo Universum
399
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Posted - 2015.02.20 18:22:11 -
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Sibyyl wrote:
What's the second M in MMO again?
I don't think it stands for Solo.
A solo player can beat a whole corp. Indeed solo players have been known to defeat multiple corps at once!
I'm guessing multiple players are involved? |
Baku Bako
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.02.20 18:28:33 -
[30] - Quote
I don't mind blobs, you just need to be out of their way. They rarely chase me from safe to safe.
MildewWolf, are you a man with breasts? |
P3ps1 Max
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2015.02.20 18:45:32 -
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Jacob Holland wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:Too much ambiguity and variations in SP's for me and other friends I've talked to regarding pvp and solo fights. There needs to be some bench mark or level system in regards to a players points. Yes a dude with 70 million SP will rofl stomp the dude with 7million. If the dude with 70 mil has industry and science skills and just recently skilled up his cruiser he can easily be the one roflstomped. A character with 5 million SPs focussed in the ship he's flying will have a more than even chance against a character who has 100 million, only 4 million of which are applicable to the ship they're in. A character with 5 million SPs and the Player skills to maximise their ship will make a 50 mil SP "combat specialist" who doesn't into a comedy kill-mail. You will lose ships as you're learning - so choose cheap ships and lose them. Lose ten or so and you'll probably be getting close fights, lose twenty and you'll be winning some of them - even if you're opponent is ten years old.
Because we all know the veteran with his only character -(sarcasm) is going to take his industry character out on a roam looking for solo fights. Majority of veterans build characters concentrated in certain areas of the game. Character bazaar is a good indicater of this.=ƒÿë
I'm not saying it's a gaurantee a lower skill player will automatically lose 10/10 of the time but I'd wager that veteran isn't out to lose a few ships but rather pad his kill mail stats. |
Stitch Kaneland
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
146
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Posted - 2015.02.20 19:00:31 -
[32] - Quote
I solo almost exclusively. Sometimes i die 5min after i make the ship. Sometimes i kill 5x what the ship is worth before i go down. Just depends on who you fight and what youre flying.
Funnest aspect is doing things that arent the norm. Like brawler arty gnosis or hull tanked drakes. Ive made 14man gangs run away from a single drake after killing 3/4 of their gang. Solo pvp uses a lot of psychological tactics to get the upper hand. Thats why i enjoy it so much.
I die.. a lot. Comes with the territory of being outnumbered most of the time. |
Presidente Gallente
Dark-Rising
Executive Outcomes
164
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Posted - 2015.02.20 19:01:34 -
[33] - Quote
You can solo PvP anytime. It just depends on how much you want to lose and much more important: do you have the time and ISK to replace your stuff again and again? |
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
279
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Posted - 2015.02.20 19:39:07 -
[34] - Quote
People who appreciate solo content came to the forum, were told to leave EVE, they aren't welcome.
So they did. |
Renegade Heart
Novus Ordo Universum
402
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Posted - 2015.02.20 19:42:26 -
[35] - Quote
Sisohiv wrote:People who appreciate solo content came to the forum, were told to leave EVE, they aren't welcome.
So they did.
Did they? |
Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
279
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Posted - 2015.02.20 19:49:35 -
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Renegade Heart wrote:Sisohiv wrote:People who appreciate solo content came to the forum, were told to leave EVE, they aren't welcome.
So they did. Did they?
Some left the content, others left the game entirely. Either way you are left with the blobs and that second M in MMO. Funny thing about the second M in MMO though, try account sharing, see where it gets you. |
Renegade Heart
Novus Ordo Universum
405
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Posted - 2015.02.20 21:20:50 -
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Sisohiv wrote:Renegade Heart wrote:Sisohiv wrote:People who appreciate solo content came to the forum, were told to leave EVE, they aren't welcome.
So they did. Did they? Some left the content, others left the game entirely. Either way you are left with the blobs and that second M in MMO. Funny thing about the second M in MMO though, try account sharing, see where it gets you.
I'd rather use alts. Account sharing sounds bad (EULA violation) so no thanks.
Also no matter how big the blobs might be getting there are still tons of players killing things on their own. Solo PvP is far from dead. Maybe it's just too hard for some nowadays? |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6285
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Posted - 2015.02.20 21:38:09 -
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LordSpook Anpumesses wrote:A few of you know me, most prolly dont, I have lived in Placid and Black Rise (Gal/Cal FW space) for over 2 years now and the last few months there has been a major decline in solo fighting, compared to what it use to be its practically non-exsistant. Its become more of a blob fest of null sec style. Now some time last year some there was a lot of whining and crying about cloaky warp stabbed ships and how they should be banned some how and make the plex rats respawn like crack addicts to encourage more solo pvp, will how did that work out for ya? most of you prolly arent even in low anymore prataking in solo pvp are ya? (most prolly werent even out here to begain with) at the time people that lived out here said it was a bad idea with loads of reasons why and just about all of them came true didnt they?
I for one would like to see the glory days of low sec fighting return but it means kill board ***** mite have to get alittle butthurt once in awhile cause there may be a player thats doesnt want to get insta popped to their 3 times boosted deadspace fit whatever ship and just simply cloaks or warps off. OOORRRRR we continue to slowly bleed low sec solo players and pretty much become just another null sec region with out the sav.
I really love saying this in game and RL but WE TOLD YOU SO! :P
yes half the words are prolly misspelled but i dont care,
o7
-LrdSpk
You are doing it wrong.
There's plenty of solo PVP. Try suicide ganking non-combatant ships in highsec, hyperdunking freighters, and tricking noobs into duels.
You want PVP in lowsec get into FW. You'll need to fit a cloak.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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vccv
8
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Posted - 2015.02.20 22:14:33 -
[39] - Quote
Im for getting rid of killboards all together. Not a very popular idea though. |
Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
201
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Posted - 2015.02.20 22:31:58 -
[40] - Quote
Sisohiv wrote:People who appreciate solo content came to the forum, were told to leave EVE, they aren't welcome.
So they did.
You are egregiously misinformed. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
33199
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Posted - 2015.02.20 22:57:06 -
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Renegade Heart wrote:Sibyyl wrote:
What's the second M in MMO again?
I don't think it stands for Solo.
A solo player can beat a whole corp. Indeed solo players have been known to defeat multiple corps at once! I'm guessing multiple players are involved?
No, I think you are just missing Sibyyl's point a bit.
She wasn't saying there is no solo, just that complaining about the lack of solo in an MMO doesn't make much sense.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Marsha Mallow
1957
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Posted - 2015.02.20 23:04:16 -
[42] - Quote
Sisohiv wrote:Renegade Heart wrote:Sisohiv wrote:People who appreciate solo content came to the forum, were told to leave EVE, they aren't welcome.
So they did. Did they? Some left the content, others left the game entirely. Either way you are left with the blobs and that second M in MMO. Funny thing about the second M in MMO though, try account sharing, see where it gets you.
At least one of those Ms is 'muppet'.
There are soloers top of various killboards ingame, go get em OP. If it's blobby or quiet where you are, move.
There's also a few solo PVP channels floating about ingame, loads of blogs and plenty of youtube vids kicking about. Solo is only dead if you're a lazy sod who expects people to come to you.
DON'T BE RIDICULOUS!
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Renegade Heart
Novus Ordo Universum
407
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Posted - 2015.02.21 00:16:52 -
[43] - Quote
Scipio Artelius wrote:Renegade Heart wrote:Sibyyl wrote:
What's the second M in MMO again?
I don't think it stands for Solo.
A solo player can beat a whole corp. Indeed solo players have been known to defeat multiple corps at once! I'm guessing multiple players are involved? No, I think you are just missing Sibyyl's point a bit. She wasn't saying there is no solo, just that complaining about the lack of solo in an MMO doesn't make much sense.
And you are missing my point, that there is no lack of solo. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
33199
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Posted - 2015.02.21 00:17:53 -
[44] - Quote
Renegade Heart wrote:And you are missing my point, that there is no lack of solo.
No, not at all. I know there is a lot of solo.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Renegade Heart
Novus Ordo Universum
407
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Posted - 2015.02.21 00:19:45 -
[45] - Quote
Scipio Artelius wrote:Renegade Heart wrote:And you are missing my point, that there is no lack of solo. No, not at all. I know there is a lot of solo. Totally different point.
I disgree with any point you are making (whatever that is, I don't really care though).
If I see players implying that you can't solo in EvE I will challenge it. The post I replied to implied that. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
33199
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Posted - 2015.02.21 00:22:16 -
[46] - Quote
Renegade Heart wrote:If I see players implying that you can't solo in EvE I will challenge it. The post I replied to implied that.
Except that's not what Sibyyl was saying.
But epeening is boring. Is kind of silly.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Renegade Heart
Novus Ordo Universum
407
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Posted - 2015.02.21 00:25:14 -
[47] - Quote
Scipio Artelius wrote:Except that's not what Sibyyl was saying.
But epeening is boring. Is kind of silly.
You don't say something when you imply it.
If you think Sibyyl was implying something other than solo play in EvE being a bad idea, then I respect your view, but disagree. Solo play can be fun.
Epeen what? |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
33199
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Posted - 2015.02.21 00:33:20 -
[48] - Quote
Renegade Heart wrote:Epeen what?
Just the silly one upmanship:
Renegade Heart wrote:I disgree with any point you are making (whatever that is, I don't really care though).
Disagreeing with a point you even agree that you don't understand.
But I'm epeening too and it's boring and off topic.
Feel free to keep misinterpreting the original comment all you like. Yes, solo pvp is fun.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Renegade Heart
Novus Ordo Universum
407
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Posted - 2015.02.21 00:35:39 -
[49] - Quote
Scipio Artelius wrote:Renegade Heart wrote:Epeen what? Just the silly one upmanship: Renegade Heart wrote:I disgree with any point you are making (whatever that is, I don't really care though). Disagreeing with a point you don't even understand. But I'm epeening too and it's boring and off topic. Feel free to keep misinterpreting the original comment all you like. Yes, solo pvp is fun.
I understand everything that Sibyll implied. I don't understand your point so I have no choice but to disagree with you. |
Marsha Mallow
1958
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Posted - 2015.02.21 00:41:38 -
[50] - Quote
Renegade Heart wrote:A solo player can beat a whole corp. Indeed solo players have been known to defeat multiple corps at once!
I'm guessing multiple players are involved?
Renegade Heart wrote:You don't say something when you imply it.
Solo play can be fun.
Epeen what?
Renegade Heart wrote:Also no matter how big the blobs might be getting there are still tons of players killing things on their own. Solo PvP is far from dead. Maybe it's just too hard for some nowadays?
You're trolling yourself there, smartarse
DON'T BE RIDICULOUS!
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
22506
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Posted - 2015.02.21 00:41:46 -
[51] - Quote
Renegade Heart wrote:Sibyyl wrote:
What's the second M in MMO again?
I don't think it stands for Solo.
A solo player can beat a whole corp. Indeed solo players have been known to defeat multiple corps at once! I'm guessing multiple players are involved?
The solo players that beat entire corps don't make posts on GD about the death of solo PVP.
People that make posts on GD about the death of solo PVP should go find friends, since obviously they're not able to hold their own.
Make sense?
Friendship is the best ship.
Sabriz for CSM go go go
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Renegade Heart
Novus Ordo Universum
407
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Posted - 2015.02.21 00:42:48 -
[52] - Quote
Marsha Mallow wrote:You're trolling yourself there, smartarse
If you think so 
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jurgen b
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.02.21 02:21:32 -
[53] - Quote
i joined FW and when roaming in low system sites you can find descent 1v1 fights, at least i can find them.
and if i can't find them, i park myself in a plex and often a good fight comes to me.
look, this is what i do, i concider those plex sites as little prostitute vitrines, you place yourself behind the window untill a costumer flies by and want some fun. you just play tha little ***** in a plex and sell yourself for a fight, once people know that, you get a happy flow of costumers and returning costumers all in for a good fight.
anyone get the idea behind it? |
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
291
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Posted - 2015.02.21 03:43:39 -
[54] - Quote
I don't FW but I find 1v1 fights in LS all the time. Even more if I don't care about having a snowball's chance of winning. |
Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
97
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Posted - 2015.02.21 04:37:36 -
[55] - Quote
Dun'Gal wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:Too much ambiguity and variations in SP's for me and other friends I've talked to regarding pvp and solo fights. There needs to be some bench mark or level system in regards to a players points. Yes a dude with 70 million SP will rofl stomp the dude with 7million. With damage modifiers maxed out along with general resists (defenses) maxed out, why bother as a new player? Stroke the veterans ego? No thanks!
i.e for every 10 million sp you earn you'd gain a level. Just an idea?=ƒÿù Or you could learn to play and understand how SP actually works. Wherein a newish 7mil sp player invested into there ship of choice is equivellant to a 70 mil sp character invested into the same because you can only invest so much into each ship.
What about the 100M SP character with 30M SP invested in his ship of choice vs the 5M SP character?
That diversionary argument grows tiresome. There are lots of people in FW with nearly perfect subcap skills, and it does matter.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
97
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Posted - 2015.02.21 04:38:41 -
[56] - Quote
Sibyyl wrote:Renegade Heart wrote:Sibyyl wrote:
What's the second M in MMO again?
I don't think it stands for Solo.
A solo player can beat a whole corp. Indeed solo players have been known to defeat multiple corps at once! I'm guessing multiple players are involved? The solo players that beat entire corps don't make posts on GD about the death of solo PVP. People that make posts on GD about the death of solo PVP should go find friends, since obviously they're not able to hold their own. Make sense?
Because they don't exist.
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jurgen b
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2015.02.21 05:33:50 -
[57] - Quote
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Dun'Gal wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:Too much ambiguity and variations in SP's for me and other friends I've talked to regarding pvp and solo fights. There needs to be some bench mark or level system in regards to a players points. Yes a dude with 70 million SP will rofl stomp the dude with 7million. With damage modifiers maxed out along with general resists (defenses) maxed out, why bother as a new player? Stroke the veterans ego? No thanks!
i.e for every 10 million sp you earn you'd gain a level. Just an idea?=ƒÿù Or you could learn to play and understand how SP actually works. Wherein a newish 7mil sp player invested into there ship of choice is equivellant to a 70 mil sp character invested into the same because you can only invest so much into each ship. What about the 100M SP character with 30M SP invested in his ship of choice vs the 5M SP character? That diversionary argument grows tiresome. There are lots of people in FW with nearly perfect subcap skills, and it does matter.
i agree on that man, i have less SP invested in pvp during the years and i notice the difference in dps output and tanking vs a higher SP player. example half of mine are L3 and if i 1V1 sva L5 skills i notice it and as well when i fight vs a lower SP player who i out tank and out dps. people who say SP dont matter are those with all the SP imo. i discussed that with a player i lost from and compaired and also a player i won from and compaired the SP and the fittings we had. both losses and wins ware SP based since our fittings ware like the same. not saying that counts for everything tho. but SP do matter idd
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SkyFlyer
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
103
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Posted - 2015.02.21 06:41:37 -
[58] - Quote
Ofcourse SP matter in game , just like any other MMO Levels matter in PvP - but if you go and lose against a guy and complain about SP being the difference Don't take the fight, it is as simple as that.
On the other hand solo PvP is far from Dead tbh (look at my videos) , yes it is harder to come by nowadays but its very muchly still kicking ass....
If you cant get solo PvP where you live, its p easy :
Step 1 ) Realise your Problem
Step 2 ) Scout Killboards
Step 3 ) Scout out the Region during Peak Times.
Step 4 ) Relocate your Assets to a satisfactory Region.
Step 5 ) ????
Step 6 ) Profit! |
Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
202
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Posted - 2015.02.21 06:46:31 -
[59] - Quote
jurgen b wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Dun'Gal wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:Too much ambiguity and variations in SP's for me and other friends I've talked to regarding pvp and solo fights. There needs to be some bench mark or level system in regards to a players points. Yes a dude with 70 million SP will rofl stomp the dude with 7million. With damage modifiers maxed out along with general resists (defenses) maxed out, why bother as a new player? Stroke the veterans ego? No thanks!
i.e for every 10 million sp you earn you'd gain a level. Just an idea?=ƒÿù Or you could learn to play and understand how SP actually works. Wherein a newish 7mil sp player invested into there ship of choice is equivellant to a 70 mil sp character invested into the same because you can only invest so much into each ship. What about the 100M SP character with 30M SP invested in his ship of choice vs the 5M SP character? That diversionary argument grows tiresome. There are lots of people in FW with nearly perfect subcap skills, and it does matter. i agree on that man, i have less SP invested in pvp during the years and i notice the difference in dps output and tanking vs a higher SP player. example half of mine are L3 and if i 1V1 sva L5 skills i notice it and as well when i fight vs a lower SP player who i out tank and out dps. people who say SP dont matter are those with all the SP imo. i discussed that with a player i lost from and compaired and also a player i won from and compaired the SP and the fittings we had. both losses and wins ware SP based since our fittings ware like the same. not saying that counts for everything tho. but SP do matter idd
You are simply wrong there is a maximum point at which extra sp is doing nothing but giving you access to different ships or weapons systems. Once you have all v in your core skills/ those which directly apply to said ship of choice, there is literally nothing you can train (in game) to make your ship any more effective. A low sp character can very easily have those basic skills maxed (or close enough to max) and be on essentially even terms sp wise with a veteran.
The only difference at that point would be the players personal experience and understanding best how there ship operates. I don't care if you've got every skill in game at level 5, I could still roll a new character and in a few months of skill training start picking fights and beating said max skill character.
Now if you want to suggest that with very low sp you will be unable to challenge someone in a ship that clearly outclasses what you are flying I can give you that - but in this case target selection is your problem more than the sp difference.
Edit: reading againwhat you are saying it sounds like impatience and jumping into ships you aren't ready to fly is the problem. Ship classes aren't just designed for there niche they are the logical progression of things. By the time you are ready to fly bigger more complex ships the basic skills that make any difference in its combat capabilities should have long since been trained. |
Renegade Heart
Novus Ordo Universum
408
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Posted - 2015.02.21 08:00:44 -
[60] - Quote
Rock Paper Scissors!
The first time I killed an assault frigate I was flying a t1 frigate with t1 weapons because I couldn't fit t2 weapons yet. I beat him still. Because my crappy piece of paper was better than his shiney rock! His t2 weapons never mattered in the fight because he could not hit me.
SP is not everything. |
Arthur Aihaken
X A X
4068
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Posted - 2015.02.21 08:07:24 -
[61] - Quote
This quote sums it up best: "If you're trying to get fair fights you're doing it wrong."
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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flakeys
Arkham Innovations
2686
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Posted - 2015.02.21 09:31:16 -
[62] - Quote
Looking at your killboard OP , you never really seemed to 'care' about solo play to start with ...
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
98
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Posted - 2015.02.21 09:54:59 -
[63] - Quote
Arthur Aihaken wrote:This quote sums it up best: "If you're trying to get fair fights you're doing it wrong."
Until everyone plays that way and there's no fights at all. |
Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
98
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Posted - 2015.02.21 10:06:49 -
[64] - Quote
Dun'Gal wrote:jurgen b wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Dun'Gal wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:Too much ambiguity and variations in SP's for me and other friends I've talked to regarding pvp and solo fights. There needs to be some bench mark or level system in regards to a players points. Yes a dude with 70 million SP will rofl stomp the dude with 7million. With damage modifiers maxed out along with general resists (defenses) maxed out, why bother as a new player? Stroke the veterans ego? No thanks!
i.e for every 10 million sp you earn you'd gain a level. Just an idea?=ƒÿù Or you could learn to play and understand how SP actually works. Wherein a newish 7mil sp player invested into there ship of choice is equivellant to a 70 mil sp character invested into the same because you can only invest so much into each ship. What about the 100M SP character with 30M SP invested in his ship of choice vs the 5M SP character? That diversionary argument grows tiresome. There are lots of people in FW with nearly perfect subcap skills, and it does matter. i agree on that man, i have less SP invested in pvp during the years and i notice the difference in dps output and tanking vs a higher SP player. example half of mine are L3 and if i 1V1 sva L5 skills i notice it and as well when i fight vs a lower SP player who i out tank and out dps. people who say SP dont matter are those with all the SP imo. i discussed that with a player i lost from and compaired and also a player i won from and compaired the SP and the fittings we had. both losses and wins ware SP based since our fittings ware like the same. not saying that counts for everything tho. but SP do matter idd You are simply wrong there is a maximum point at which extra sp is doing nothing but giving you access to different ships or weapons systems. Once you have all v in your core skills/ those which directly apply to said ship of choice, there is literally nothing you can train (in game) to make your ship any more effective. A low sp character can very easily have those basic skills maxed (or close enough to max) and be on essentially even terms sp wise with a veteran. The only difference at that point would be the players personal experience and understanding best how there ship operates. I don't care if you've got every skill in game at level 5, I could still roll a new character and in a few months of skill training start picking fights and beating said max skill character. Now if you want to suggest that with very low sp you will be unable to challenge someone in a ship that clearly outclasses what you are flying I can give you that - but in this case target selection is your problem more than the sp difference. Edit: reading againwhat you are saying it sounds like impatience and jumping into ships you aren't ready to fly is the problem. Ship classes aren't just designed for there niche they are the logical progression of things. By the time you are ready to fly bigger more complex ships the basic skills that make any difference in its combat capabilities should have long since been trained.
I'm not sure you understand how many skills affect even frigate warfare and having them all at V adds up as 5% advantage in a few areas is critical in a close fight. I still don't have surgical strike or cap management V and those are each a 15 day train with +4 implants. Likewise acceleration control is 15 days, as is AF's V. Then full skills or nearly so in your preferred weapon system, and drones (interfacing V is 20 days). And being able to fly more than one type of frigate gives you a lot more options with respect to choosing fights. Just off the top of my head I'd say 6-9 months for a near perfect frigate pilot. Fairly daunting when you're on week one.
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Rectile
Warped
6
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Posted - 2015.02.21 10:23:32 -
[65] - Quote
For something to disappear it must first exist |
Mashie Saldana
Gallente Rebels Inc.
Villore Accords
1545
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Posted - 2015.02.21 11:06:04 -
[66] - Quote
Rectile wrote:For something to disappear it must first exist
You sir, have no idea what you're talking about.
I've lived in black rise/ placid for about a year. It's still quite active, not as much as it was last summer/spring but there are fights to be found.
I've been quite inactive tho, not enought time to play and all. Also a lot of small gang/solo players I know either moved out or joined bigger corps so they're blobbing now.
Sometimes, you just have to YOLO in OP, even tho you think you can't win. **** just got more real.
How to win EVE
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Triksterism
Disconnect.
18
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Posted - 2015.02.21 11:07:57 -
[67] - Quote
Getting 'good fights' soloing has been on the decline since FW was introduced. I remember back in the day you could solo roam in a battleship and kill dozens of people before you lost it. You could break up camps, get good 1v1's etc... This current frigate / destroyer meta is beyond boring as well :( |
SkyFlyer
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
104
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Posted - 2015.02.21 11:16:24 -
[68] - Quote
Man , all these comments....
Solo PvP was around years ago, and is still around now - and i guarantee you it will be around for years to come simply because not all of us function in a small gang with different people ( i only fly with 2 or 3 people every now and again) , and honestly reading this **** makes me sad.
There is plenty of Solo PvP in this game you just gotta open your eyes and invest the Time Scouting, Baiting, and for the love of god 1v5 is still solo PvP even if there is Sentries on your Side, not to mention that eveyrone enjoys shooting my shinies :3
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Blusterby Diggenploof FOODIE
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.02.21 16:34:47 -
[69] - Quote
LordSpook Anpumesses wrote:A few of you know me, most prolly dont, I have lived in Placid and Black Rise (Gal/Cal FW space) for over 2 years now and the last few months there has been a major decline in solo fighting, compared to what it use to be its practically non-exsistant. Its become more of a blob fest of null sec style. Now some time last year some there was a lot of whining and crying about cloaky warp stabbed ships and how they should be banned some how and make the plex rats respawn like crack addicts to encourage more solo pvp, will how did that work out for ya? most of you prolly arent even in low anymore prataking in solo pvp are ya? (most prolly werent even out here to begain with) at the time people that lived out here said it was a bad idea with loads of reasons why and just about all of them came true didnt they?
I for one would like to see the glory days of low sec fighting return but it means kill board ***** mite have to get alittle butthurt once in awhile cause there may be a player thats doesnt want to get insta popped to their 3 times boosted deadspace fit whatever ship and just simply cloaks or warps off. OOORRRRR we continue to slowly bleed low sec solo players and pretty much become just another null sec region with out the sav.
I really love saying this in game and RL but WE TOLD YOU SO! :P
yes half the words are prolly misspelled but i dont care,
o7
-LrdSpk
Ehonour is bad for eve if you want solo go to Jita. A guy named jasper will honour all 1v1s solo fights. Have fun. |
Arthur Aihaken
State Protectorate
Caldari State
4069
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Posted - 2015.02.21 18:05:56 -
[70] - Quote
SkyFlyer wrote:There is plenty of Solo PvP in this game you just gotta open your eyes and invest the Time Scouting, Baiting, and for the love of god 1v5 is still solo PvP even if there is Sentries on your Side, not to mention that eveyrone enjoys shooting my shinies :3
Not really... If you fly solo, you're basically just inviting a 5+ player gang drop (this is effectively guaranteed if you're flying anything larger than a cruiser). Broken local (they don't even have to undock to learn you're there), broken D-scan (tells them you're on your own), broken off-grid boosting (park their T3 or command ship 1km outside their POS shield where you can't touch it)...
I parked a battleship on a large hub and it didn't take more than a few minutes to have an interceptor drop and tackle me, at which point there was a huge spike in local and 3-4 more various cruisers and T3s arrived (not too mention whatever else was enroute, estimated at another 3-5 ships).
There's no solo PvP in EVE - just varying degrees of blob.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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HeXxploiT
Little Red X
103
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Posted - 2015.02.21 18:40:26 -
[71] - Quote
Triksterism wrote:Getting 'good fights' soloing has been on the decline since FW was introduced. I remember back in the day you could solo roam in a battleship and kill dozens of people before you lost it. You could break up camps, get good 1v1's etc... This current frigate / destroyer meta is beyond boring as well :(
This is actually true and it is very possible to find solo pvp around FW areas but it's all T1 so it's just not very exciting.
I don't let that stop me from going solo in expensive ships but most pilots cannot afford this and because the environment, even the duel which was intended for this purpose is not conducive to solo player vs player situations, most will refrain from ever even attempting solo pvp in anything beyond a t1 cruiser. Someone else in the thread mentioned that they'd been gone for a couple years and they returned only to hear the masses still complaining about this same issue. Perhaps finally the time has come and ccp will broaden the scope of pvp to include this large group that is being left out. In the meantime I will continue to use the system for maximum fun potential and continue to encourage expansion and flexibility of gameplay. |
Renegade Heart
Novus Ordo Universum
410
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Posted - 2015.02.21 18:48:54 -
[72] - Quote
Arthur Aihaken wrote:Solo PvP outside of a frigate is basically dead.
You are basically wrong. |
Hemmo Paskiainen
470
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Posted - 2015.02.21 21:06:28 -
[73] - Quote
Me and lots of friends and similar content creators used to solo/small gang just about 8/24, but than suddanly came the Eve/dust neglection, nex cloathing store, dominion sov changes, superbuff and the technetium fuckup around... and we all said **** this bullshit, only to see the content has been stagnated in a blue exploit *** fest by team greyscale and the rest of the goon/pl fags. No thanks! Loosing stable base players in an intelligence heavy game will takes it toll at somepoint if theres lost too much. Prolly takes years to recoupe old 2008/9 levels even with the right implemented overdue null sec changes. Prolly takes antother 2 years before its finaly right aswell too. No one is rly going to wait 4-5 years with active subspription on changes that were obvius needed in 2011. But hey thats EVE: deal with or leave > so all the non blue donut bluelag fast fest lovers, left. Hence the lack of solo pvpv'rs. I hve to attend to some industryjobs with some ****** up nerfed t2 bpos to free plexs and do other more usefull things. Mkya bye cya gl spinning, cya in another 4yrs.
"Relativity equals time plus momentum: if it can be erased by a single click on a button, would it be worth spending your time?"
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Arthur Aihaken
State Protectorate
Caldari State
4070
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Posted - 2015.02.21 21:28:56 -
[74] - Quote
Renegade Heart wrote:You are basically wrong.
Really? How many players solo in a Battleship or Battlecruiser? Along with T3s, these pose such tempting targets that they rarely operate outside of a small group or without warfare links for support.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Renegade Heart
Novus Ordo Universum
410
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Posted - 2015.02.21 21:39:13 -
[75] - Quote
Arthur Aihaken wrote:Renegade Heart wrote:You are basically wrong. Really? How many players solo in a Battleship or Battlecruiser? Along with T3s, these pose such tempting targets that they rarely operate outside of a small group or without warfare links for support.
Maybe you are in the wrong space going after the wrong targets or something? I wouldn't expect to see many in FW plexes. The rest of space however has plenty of non-frigate targets that you can take out solo. |
BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
378
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Posted - 2015.02.21 22:02:43 -
[76] - Quote
I really like this game, but sometimes I wonder why I still play. I haven't been in a Corp in years and play solo. But I'm so lousy at PVP, I stay docked most of the time or find other things to do. I have 120 Million SP but it's hard to get into a corp when you have no PVP skills after 6 years of playing.
After reading this thread, I'm gonna go out to Black Rise and see if I can get some solo PVP. I have lots of ISK and can afford to lose lots of cheap ships. Maybe I can pick up some skills and learn to fight, We'll see... |
maCH'EttE
Mafia Redux
Feign Disorder
144
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Posted - 2015.02.21 22:12:44 -
[77] - Quote
LordSpook Anpumesses wrote:A few of you know me, most prolly dont, I have lived in Placid and Black Rise (Gal/Cal FW space) for over 2 years now and the last few months there has been a major decline in solo fighting, compared to what it use to be its practically non-exsistant. Its become more of a blob fest of null sec style. Now some time last year some there was a lot of whining and crying about cloaky warp stabbed ships and how they should be banned some how and make the plex rats respawn like crack addicts to encourage more solo pvp, will how did that work out for ya? most of you prolly arent even in low anymore prataking in solo pvp are ya? (most prolly werent even out here to begain with) at the time people that lived out here said it was a bad idea with loads of reasons why and just about all of them came true didnt they?
I for one would like to see the glory days of low sec fighting return but it means kill board ***** mite have to get alittle butthurt once in awhile cause there may be a player thats doesnt want to get insta popped to their 3 times boosted deadspace fit whatever ship and just simply cloaks or warps off. OOORRRRR we continue to slowly bleed low sec solo players and pretty much become just another null sec region with out the sav.
I really love saying this in game and RL but WE TOLD YOU SO! :P
yes half the words are prolly misspelled but i dont care,
o7
-LrdSpk
CCP Rise and the other CCP Thedudethatlookslikeahamster killed solo/small gang pvp, where you been.
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Arthur Aihaken
State Protectorate
Caldari State
4070
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Posted - 2015.02.21 23:12:40 -
[78] - Quote
Renegade Heart wrote:Maybe you are in the wrong space going after the wrong targets or something? I wouldn't expect to see many in FW plexes. The rest of space however has plenty of non-frigate targets that you can take out solo.
I wasn't referring to FW plexes, specifically - although most will be populated by frigates and destroyers. I just tend to find that the only time battleships undock is to deliver the coup de grace when you've already been tackled and maimed by a group of frigates or destroyers. Players fly what they can afford to lose, which generally means the cheapest ships possible.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Glathull
Warlock Assassins
945
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Posted - 2015.02.21 23:27:52 -
[79] - Quote
This thread would be both more interesting and more short if the OP had just phrased the question differently. In the form of a statement: solo pvp is not easy.
I honestly feel like I just read fifty shades of dumb. --CCP Falcon
Shut up, Anslo. --everyone
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Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
203
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Posted - 2015.02.21 23:46:37 -
[80] - Quote
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:I'm not sure you understand how many skills affect even frigate warfare and having them all at V adds up as 5% advantage in a few areas is critical in a close fight. I still don't have surgical strike or cap management V and those are each a 15 day train with +4 implants. Likewise acceleration control is 15 days, as is AF's V. Then full skills or nearly so in your preferred weapon system, and drones (interfacing V is 20 days). And being able to fly more than one type of frigate gives you a lot more options with respect to choosing fights. Just off the top of my head I'd say 6-9 months for a near perfect frigate pilot. Fairly daunting when you're on week one.
Look I'm starting to get the feeling you are arguing simply for the sake of arguing, but the fact is I do understand exactly how many skills effect a frigate, because they are the exact same skills that effect EVERY other ship, the only difference after those skills are "perfect" (I will tell you right now having them perfect is NOT necessary) is you will be training different ships, or different weapons systems or whatever floats your boat. Not to mention lets say for the sake of argument you decide to fly minmatar, there is nearly zero reason to have near perfect drone skills so early in your career because your damage is not coming from them. Focus on what matters for your ship of choice, not on cutting a wide swath through every possibility early.
The moment you start spreading out your SP amongst various weapons systems as a new player is the moment you are running yourself into a wall for no other reason than "it's there so why not." There's a reason people tell you to specialize early and that's so you can be competitive early. That other stuff will come later once you have a better grasp of basic concepts, like SP distribution. Pick a ship, see what weapons it uses and train for those - you decide you like the rifter, focus on autos and turret related skills - you like the breacher, focus on rockets and launcher related skills instead. It's not hard, it just requires some semblance of self control.
As a side note your mention of AF's is a prime example of jumping into something too early. Get your basic skills up and fly the T1's you will not only have more real experience in PVP, so you are less likely to make bad decisions, but you should in theory be better situated on all the skills you actually need. Don't fall into the I "can" fly it so I should trap. Not to mention they are cheaper and literally just as capable in most situations. |
Renegade Heart
Novus Ordo Universum
410
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Posted - 2015.02.22 00:18:44 -
[81] - Quote
Arthur Aihaken wrote:Renegade Heart wrote:Maybe you are in the wrong space going after the wrong targets or something? I wouldn't expect to see many in FW plexes. The rest of space however has plenty of non-frigate targets that you can take out solo. I wasn't referring to FW plexes, specifically - although most will be populated by frigates and destroyers. I just tend to find that the only time battleships undock is to deliver the coup de grace when you've already been tackled and maimed by a group of frigates or destroyers. Players fly what they can afford to lose, which generally means the cheapest ships possible.
Go look inside a WH players fly really crazy ships inside those, thinking they can get away with it no doubt.
Low sec is quite risky for solo battleship pilots, I'll give you that, but you still get them there too.
I'll agree with the sentiment that solo pvp is perhaps harder than before for some players, but that is all your own faults! CCP does not force you to blob up. You bring that on yourselves!
But not everyone blobs all the time  |
SkyFlyer
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
109
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Posted - 2015.02.22 06:11:28 -
[82] - Quote
Arthur Aihaken wrote:SkyFlyer wrote:There is plenty of Solo PvP in this game you just gotta open your eyes and invest the Time Scouting, Baiting, and for the love of god 1v5 is still solo PvP even if there is Sentries on your Side, not to mention that eveyrone enjoys shooting my shinies :3 Not really... If you fly solo, you're basically just inviting a 5+ player gang drop (this is effectively guaranteed if you're flying anything larger than a cruiser). Broken local (they don't even have to undock to learn you're there), broken D-scan (tells them you're on your own), broken off-grid boosting (park their T3 or command ship 1km outside their POS shield where you can't touch it)... I parked a battleship on a large hub and it didn't take more than a few minutes to have an interceptor drop and tackle me, at which point there was a huge spike in local and 3-4 more various cruisers and T3s arrived (not too mention whatever else was enroute, estimated at another 3-5 ships). There's several scenarios: 1. You enter low-sec, anything worth engaging immediately notices the change in local, D-scans, docks, warps to a safe and cloaks or sprints to the safe confines of a POS. 2. You enter low-sec, there's nothing apparent to engage - except for the interceptor that has now undocked and begun actively probing you down. Soon to be followed by a tackle, spike in local and blob drop. 3. You enter low-sec, actually find something to engage (rare) - and successfully attain the coveted solo PvP! Until local spikes and the blob drops on you. 4. You say f**k it and go back to mining or missioning in high-sec. Solo PvP outside of a frigate is basically dead.
Oh man, this is so wrong i just wanna like throw myself of a bridge [ nothing to do here] , you know im not gonna even give you a proper response except go watch my videos and come back and let me know if you still feel this way.
If you can't defend yourself vs 5 people then tbh they know what their doing but its still gonna be a good fight.
PS: Also high sec pvp aint real pvp yo
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SkyFlyer
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
109
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Posted - 2015.02.22 06:16:39 -
[83] - Quote
I know this will be a double post but man i'm going to have some strong feelings at this.
As one of the Solo PvPers out there, this solo PvP **** ain't dead :<
Like to solo PvP is easy:
Pick your Ship.
Scout the Killboard (zkillboard)
Enter your Dest and off you go.
On the way you'll get a fight that will satisfy you
or
you get fcked so hard, you get another ship and do it again : )
Just look at this:
https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98365551/
All basically Solo/Duo PvP + there is Videos to this:
(can't link due to work)
But go to Youtube.com -> Type in Cruising Lands: The Return of SkyFlyer.
?????????
Profit |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Cynosural Field Theory.
1526
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Posted - 2015.02.22 06:24:02 -
[84] - Quote
Another whiner...
Surprise
TunDraGon is recruiting!
"Also, your boobs [:o] " -á
CCP Eterne, 2012
"When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
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SkyFlyer
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
109
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Posted - 2015.02.22 07:25:58 -
[85] - Quote
I know right? whining gets ya no where, just keep doing the Solo PvPing and it works out eventually! lol |
crown jewels
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.02.22 07:52:48 -
[86] - Quote
that's easy to answer they all moved to go seal clubbing in high sec , soon they have to install traffic light with players waiting to kill the undefended and you know what they are called the ankers |
Chapmonious Hunter
Pwn 'N Play
Nulli Secunda
88
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Posted - 2015.02.22 09:59:36 -
[87] - Quote
P3ps1 Max wrote:Too much ambiguity and variations in SP's for me and other friends I've talked to regarding pvp and solo fights. There needs to be some bench mark or level system in regards to a players points. Yes a dude with 70 million SP will rofl stomp the dude with 7million. With damage modifiers maxed out along with general resists (defenses) maxed out, why bother as a new player? Stroke the veterans ego? No thanks!
i.e for every 10 million sp you earn you'd gain a level. Just an idea?=ƒÿù
no...just stop |
Renegade Heart
Novus Ordo Universum
410
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Posted - 2015.02.22 10:54:36 -
[88] - Quote
SkyFlyer wrote:PS: Also high sec pvp aint real pvp yo
Are you mad? High Sec PvP is truly elite!
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
381
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Posted - 2015.02.22 10:56:30 -
[89] - Quote
Chapmonious Hunter wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:Too much ambiguity and variations in SP's for me and other friends I've talked to regarding pvp and solo fights. There needs to be some bench mark or level system in regards to a players points. Yes a dude with 70 million SP will rofl stomp the dude with 7million. With damage modifiers maxed out along with general resists (defenses) maxed out, why bother as a new player? Stroke the veterans ego? No thanks!
i.e for every 10 million sp you earn you'd gain a level. Just an idea?=ƒÿù no...just stop
Agreed...
You should gain a level every 5 Million SP... |
SkyFlyer
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
109
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Posted - 2015.02.22 11:54:00 -
[90] - Quote
BrundleMeth wrote:Chapmonious Hunter wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:Too much ambiguity and variations in SP's for me and other friends I've talked to regarding pvp and solo fights. There needs to be some bench mark or level system in regards to a players points. Yes a dude with 70 million SP will rofl stomp the dude with 7million. With damage modifiers maxed out along with general resists (defenses) maxed out, why bother as a new player? Stroke the veterans ego? No thanks!
i.e for every 10 million sp you earn you'd gain a level. Just an idea?=ƒÿù no...just stop Agreed... You should gain a level every 5 Million SP...
Lol or else we could just gain levels every 10 kills ahhahahahahh 
Renegade Heart wrote:SkyFlyer wrote:PS: Also high sec pvp aint real pvp yo Are you mad? High Sec PvP is truly elite!
Never mad xD use to be high sec pvp eliteeee just like frigate pvp is elite |
Mizhir
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
74053
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Posted - 2015.02.22 12:02:20 -
[91] - Quote
Solo pvp is EVE on hardmode. Just a shame that most people are slaves of their own killboard/epeen and are afraid to fight against the odds.
Proof that solo pvp is still alive and kicking ass.
One Man Crew - Collective Solo PVP - Video is out!
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Kaarous Aldurald
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
11879
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Posted - 2015.02.22 12:06:50 -
[92] - Quote
Where have all the gudfites gone, and what's with all the blobs?
Where's the spaceship samurai, who'll fight on even odds?
Isn't there a white knight, who'll duel me at the sun?
On the forums, I wring my hands cause I want a 1v1...
I need some solo! (solo)
Cause I wanna be solo in an MMO!
And I think that I'm leet, I know I can't be beat
But the other side has more ppl tho...
I wanna solo! (solo)
...
Sometime after midnight, out alone in Wicked Creek
Some butthole in a cyno ship, is out there chasing after me
If I try to attack, then he'll just cyno in a black ops fleet
Then my super cool ship will get blapped so quickly
Other people shouldn't have friends, cause that's so unfair to me!
I need some solo!
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Caleb Seremshur
The Atomic Fallout Kids
483
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Posted - 2015.02.22 12:52:33 -
[93] - Quote
Renegade Heart wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:Renegade Heart wrote:Maybe you are in the wrong space going after the wrong targets or something? I wouldn't expect to see many in FW plexes. The rest of space however has plenty of non-frigate targets that you can take out solo. I wasn't referring to FW plexes, specifically - although most will be populated by frigates and destroyers. I just tend to find that the only time battleships undock is to deliver the coup de grace when you've already been tackled and maimed by a group of frigates or destroyers. Players fly what they can afford to lose, which generally means the cheapest ships possible. Go look inside a WH players fly really crazy ships inside those, thinking they can get away with it no doubt. Low sec is quite risky for solo battleship pilots, I'll give you that, but you still get them there too. I'll agree with the sentiment that solo pvp is perhaps harder than before for some players, but that is all your own faults! CCP does not force you to blob up. You bring that on yourselves! But not everyone blobs all the time
CCP are just like the big banks in their thinking.
Everything through the rebalance got more expensive to build (and by association pay for).
Incomes for new players or people with poor opportunities stayed the same.
Incomes for people who were already in an advantaged position got easier.
In the end another top-heavy economy that's falling over and nobody wants to fly shiny stuff because it's too fuckin hard to replace.
Faction warfare pilot and solo/small gang PVP advocate
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Haskuldr
The Muuaji
3
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Posted - 2015.02.22 13:33:21 -
[94] - Quote
I wonder what this is then ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvOB4KXYk-o
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SkyFlyer
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
110
|
Posted - 2015.02.22 14:24:03 -
[95] - Quote
Caleb Seremshur wrote:Renegade Heart wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:Renegade Heart wrote:Maybe you are in the wrong space going after the wrong targets or something? I wouldn't expect to see many in FW plexes. The rest of space however has plenty of non-frigate targets that you can take out solo. I wasn't referring to FW plexes, specifically - although most will be populated by frigates and destroyers. I just tend to find that the only time battleships undock is to deliver the coup de grace when you've already been tackled and maimed by a group of frigates or destroyers. Players fly what they can afford to lose, which generally means the cheapest ships possible. Go look inside a WH players fly really crazy ships inside those, thinking they can get away with it no doubt. Low sec is quite risky for solo battleship pilots, I'll give you that, but you still get them there too. I'll agree with the sentiment that solo pvp is perhaps harder than before for some players, but that is all your own faults! CCP does not force you to blob up. You bring that on yourselves! But not everyone blobs all the time CCP are just like the big banks in their thinking. Everything through the rebalance got more expensive to build (and by association pay for). Incomes for new players or people with poor opportunities stayed the same. Incomes for people who were already in an advantaged position got easier. In the end another top-heavy economy that's falling over and nobody wants to fly shiny stuff because it's too fuckin hard to replace.
Its easy to make isk (billions in weeks) if you are willing to invest time so your post is nothing but a clueless mess:
Are you into Frigate PvP?
Join FW -> Get LP From Fighting + Missions.
Missions in FW lvl 4 are worth a fck ton of Isk/LP and are easy (doable in a Bomber.)
Do you enjoy 0.0 PvP in NPC Space?
Find a Corp that pays for kills ( a lot of them lately) and do Missions.
If you have not run missions before you can easily gain access to Lvl 4's in NPC 0.0.
Do you Enjoy 0.0 PvP in Sov Space?
Find an alliance (there is MILLIONS) and rat in havens
Also **** easy.
Are you a High sec Scrub who is afraid to do something new?
Quit the Game and stop whining.
Literally any absoultely noob can make isk so serious WHAT THE FCK ARE YOU ON ABOUT WHEN YOU SAY "In the end another top-heavy economy that's falling over and nobody wants to fly shiny stuff because it's too fuckin hard to replace" YOU NOOB?
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Renegade Heart
Novus Ordo Universum
410
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Posted - 2015.02.22 14:30:10 -
[96] - Quote
Caleb Seremshur wrote:In the end another top-heavy economy that's falling over and nobody wants to fly shiny stuff because it's too ****** hard to replace.
So what you are saying is that you are nobody? Well be someone then, because someone is out there right now flying a shiny ship that is not hard to replace |
Apoctasy
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2015.02.22 16:26:15 -
[97] - Quote
Solo PVP exists. Try leaving FW space |
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
196
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Posted - 2015.02.22 18:36:08 -
[98] - Quote
Gankers like to proclaim they are doing all of the solo pvp
"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
6519
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Posted - 2015.02.22 18:52:45 -
[99] - Quote
I've found plenty of solo PVP, most of it flying assault frigates, especially the Enyo and the Ishkur. One of my favourite engagements was in Khanid against five T1 frigates that all melted to my Enyo but not without putting up one helluva fight against it. They had a Merlin with tracking disruptor and MASB, three Slashers with neuts (which nearly killed my reps), and a fed navy comet set up to kite with rails and drones. And it was not an easy fight but it was glorious, and more importantly, fun for everyone involved. I was in deep structure by the end of it and my sacrificial drone needed replacing...
For the record, solo PVP isn't impossible. You choose to go solo in a game like this though only to challenge yourself, not to challenge others, so you cannot expect others to fight you on your terms. The only rules they have to abide by are the EULA and TOS, they have absolutely zero obligation to any sense of 'honour' you may 'demand' of them.
On the flip side, flying solo does not necessarily mean one fails to recognise the multiplayer nature of an MMO. If you're doing it right, then the first thing you acknowledge flying solo is that you will encounter gangs and people with friends. Again, the point of flying solo is to challenge yourself, not to challenge others.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Thomas Harding
Flaming Sideburns Social Club
30
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Posted - 2015.02.22 20:21:09 -
[100] - Quote
Sibyyl wrote:
What's the second M in MMO again?
I don't think it stands for Solo.
I don't think it stands for (G)roup playing only either.
I'd say it just means that game is capable of supporting large numbers of players simultaniously.
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
22805
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Posted - 2015.02.22 20:49:13 -
[101] - Quote
Thomas Harding wrote:Sibyyl wrote:
What's the second M in MMO again?
I don't think it stands for Solo.
I don't think it stands for (G)roup playing only either. I'd say it just means that game is capable of supporting large numbers of players simultaniously.
So you think OP is a master solo PVPer who needs a tiny bit of encouragement? Or, do you think it would be easier for him to make some friends to go roaming with?
See the first line in my sig for which option I think is better.
Friendship is the best ship.
Sabriz for CSM go go go
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Thomas Harding
Flaming Sideburns Social Club
30
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Posted - 2015.02.22 21:45:31 -
[102] - Quote
Sibyyl wrote:Thomas Harding wrote:Sibyyl wrote:
What's the second M in MMO again?
I don't think it stands for Solo.
I don't think it stands for (G)roup playing only either. I'd say it just means that game is capable of supporting large numbers of players simultaniously. So you think OP is a master solo PVPer who needs a tiny bit of encouragement? Or, do you think it would be easier for him to make some friends to go roaming with? See the first line in my sig for which option I think is better.
I couldn't care less about that. I'm just annoyed (not you personally, more in general) of that 'witty' MMO answer every time someone mention solo play.
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Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
738
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Posted - 2015.02.22 22:10:33 -
[103] - Quote
Sisohiv wrote:People who appreciate solo content came to the forum, were told to leave EVE, they aren't welcome.
So they did.
Yeah and all we're left with is a bunch of F1 spamming monkeys that couldn't wipe their own asses without someone screaming WIPE WIPE WIPE into coms.
.
They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake.
**This IS my main so STFU.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
33207
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Posted - 2015.02.22 22:42:21 -
[104] - Quote
Belt Scout wrote:Sisohiv wrote:People who appreciate solo content came to the forum, were told to leave EVE, they aren't welcome.
So they did. Yeah and all we're left with is a bunch of F1 spamming monkeys that couldn't wipe their own asses without someone screaming WIPE WIPE WIPE into coms.
That might be the reality of the forum, but not the reality of the game.
People who are successfully soloing in game have no need to come here and whine about the lack of solo pvp (which is really a whine about not being able to find other solo pvpers from people who try to go solo and fail).
If someone wants to solo, they can. Easily. All they need to do is get in a ship, undock and go roam.
Solo =/= 1v1 though.
Solo = 1v1, 1v2, 1vBlob (and all of them are part of the enjoyment).
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Renegade Heart
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
412
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Posted - 2015.02.22 23:06:59 -
[105] - Quote
Sibyyl wrote:Thomas Harding wrote:Sibyyl wrote:
What's the second M in MMO again?
I don't think it stands for Solo.
I don't think it stands for (G)roup playing only either. I'd say it just means that game is capable of supporting large numbers of players simultaniously. So you think OP is a master solo PVPer who needs a tiny bit of encouragement? Or, do you think it would be easier for him to make some friends to go roaming with? See the first line in my sig for which option I think is better.
So your answer to someone who wants to pvp solo is to not pvp solo? Do you not understand why people have a problem with that?
Be honest, are you even capable of killing anything on your own? In which case, are you really qualified to give advice on how to find pvp as a solo'er? |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
22826
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Posted - 2015.02.22 23:15:13 -
[106] - Quote
Renegade Heart wrote:
So your answer to someone who wants to pvp solo is to not pvp solo? Do you not understand why people have a problem with that?
Be honest, are you even capable of killing anything on your own? In which case, are you really qualified to give advise on how to find pvp as a solo'er?
I've been waiting for you to follow your own advice and provide some constructive tips for OP, but all I've found are a series of contrarian replies from you.
I'm curious to see how you're going to transform OP into a legendary solo PVPer.. just like you, right?
Friendship is the best ship.
Sabriz for CSM go go go
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
935
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Posted - 2015.02.23 00:07:53 -
[107] - Quote
Solo PvP is like that Ragnarok that logged off June of '05 and hasn't been seen since.
Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy.
I invented Tiericide
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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
1125
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Posted - 2015.02.23 05:51:31 -
[108] - Quote
Dun'Gal wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:Too much ambiguity and variations in SP's for me and other friends I've talked to regarding pvp and solo fights. There needs to be some bench mark or level system in regards to a players points. Yes a dude with 70 million SP will rofl stomp the dude with 7million. With damage modifiers maxed out along with general resists (defenses) maxed out, why bother as a new player? Stroke the veterans ego? No thanks!
i.e for every 10 million sp you earn you'd gain a level. Just an idea?=ƒÿù Or you could learn to play and understand how SP actually works. Wherein a newish 7mil sp player invested into there ship of choice is equivellant to a 70 mil sp character invested into the same because you can only invest so much into each ship.
By all means please break this down for me. Please tell me how a 7mill invested to fully skill a cruiser player takes down a 70 mill fully skilled battleship player 1 v 1.
Nice dream but SP differential >>>>> piloting skill in EvE. What you say is to convince you that you are in a true PvP game where piloting skill would matter.
This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
281
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Posted - 2015.02.23 05:55:39 -
[109] - Quote
Dun'Gal wrote:Sisohiv wrote:People who appreciate solo content came to the forum, were told to leave EVE, they aren't welcome.
So they did. You are egregiously misinformed.
Because I didn't add a side note to disclaim the 50 or so people EVE wide who camp POCO's and kill epithal's solo?
We wouldn't want to forget them.... |
Renegade Heart
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
412
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Posted - 2015.02.23 06:19:49 -
[110] - Quote
Sibyyl wrote:Renegade Heart wrote:
So your answer to someone who wants to pvp solo is to not pvp solo? Do you not understand why people have a problem with that?
Be honest, are you even capable of killing anything on your own? In which case, are you really qualified to give advise on how to find pvp as a solo'er?
I've been waiting for you to follow your own advice and provide some constructive tips for OP, but all I've found are a series of contrarian replies from you. I'm curious to see how you're going to transform OP into a legendary solo PVPer.. just like you, right?
I am no legendary solo pvp'er. I do not know where you got that from. If you focused on reading some of my replies where I have given advice you would see that I have done a better job than you, who have done nothing but troll the thread. |
Kirobacsi
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
Heiian Conglomerate
13
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Posted - 2015.02.23 07:05:17 -
[111] - Quote
Finding plenty in black rise |
Lug Muad'Dib
Wise Humans Sword
37
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Posted - 2015.02.23 07:46:22 -
[112] - Quote
Nexus Day wrote:
By all means please break this down for me. Please tell me how a 7mill invested to fully skill a cruiser player takes down a 70 mill fully skilled battleship player 1 v 1.
Nice dream but SP differential >>>>> piloting skill in EvE. What you say is to convince you that you are in a true PvP game where piloting skill would matter.
Low SP pilot with good piloting skill soloing veteran in bigger ship happen all day in low sec. Ships & PVP mechanic's knowledge > SP
Being bad in a game don't mean that this game is bad.
D-Scan immunity is dumb.
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5867
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Posted - 2015.02.23 12:09:59 -
[113] - Quote
LordSpook Anpumesses wrote:A few of you know me, most prolly dont, I have lived in Placid and Black Rise ....
yes half the words are prolly misspelled but i dont care,
o7
-LrdSpk
You lost me at "prolly", but I see you made up for it by not caring.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
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Chocolate Mooses
The Conference Elite
CODE.
16
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Posted - 2015.02.23 12:38:30 -
[114] - Quote
HeXxploiT wrote:Sibyyl wrote:
What's the second M in MMO again?
I don't think it stands for Solo.
How is 1v1 solo? That's called multiplayer. Ratting is solo. Learn the difference.
If you want 1vs1 find a empty system anywhere (if it's high-sec use the duel feature that CCP added).... honorbro 1vs1 thunderdome at the sun until your heart is content.
Plenty of people love doing this. However one needs to get social and actually meet people who are into this type of thing. It's not hard, it's a huge universe and whatever you are into chances at least a few hundred people want the same thing.
Now, if a player wants to roam around FW or nullsec totally alone while not mastering the ability to do this (and it's not just a SP thing, it's spending much time getting really good at eve) and gets eaten alive by a group and then cries about how all they wanted was 1vs1 honorbro combat......... lmao |
Speedkermit Damo
Demonic Retribution
390
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Posted - 2015.02.23 12:48:25 -
[115] - Quote
I'm a null-seccer, and I've recently moved to Black rise for some solo PvP because nullsec is becoming ever more stagnant and boring.
I'm not having any trouble finding solo pvp in Black Rise and surrounding regions.
Protect me from knowing what I don't need to know. Protect me from even knowing that there are things to know that I don't know. Protect me from knowing that I decided not to know about the things that I decided not to know about. Amen.
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Anthar Thebess
884
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Posted - 2015.02.23 13:22:10 -
[116] - Quote
Solo is almost dead now, and i think that it will go away eventually.
To many players to few systems.
Capital Remote AID Rebalance
Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
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Lloyd Roses
862
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Posted - 2015.02.23 14:43:47 -
[117] - Quote
Solo pvp isn't dead, just that the number of brainless people to shoot at has drastically decreased. If it's dead now than it was more than just dead two years ago, when falcons were rearry hardcore.
Also, what is solo pvp to start with? 1v1? 1v5 still solo? Cause if yes, then there is plenty of that to have and plenty to be won by fighting 5 scissors with one badass rock.
I GÖÑ Sleipnir
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Soldarius
Kosher Nostra
The 99 Percent
1123
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Posted - 2015.02.23 14:58:30 -
[118] - Quote
Nexus Day wrote:By all means please break this down for me. Please tell me how a 7mill invested to fully skill a cruiser player takes down a 70 mill fully skilled battleship player 1 v 1.
Nice dream but SP differential >>>>> piloting skill in EvE. What you say is to convince you that you are in a true PvP game where piloting skill would matter.
SP does helps with your stats. SP does not impart actual combat skill. The answer to your question is simple: orbit quickly outside of web range. Having a Tracking Disruptor w/tracking speed script in a utility mid will help unless the BS is a Raven or other missile ship. If the BS pilot is of poor skill, RIP BS.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders
Spaceship Bebop
427
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Posted - 2015.02.23 16:09:46 -
[119] - Quote
There are plenty of solo fights available if that is what you are looking for. |
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
731
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Posted - 2015.02.23 16:49:40 -
[120] - Quote
Betsons |
BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
382
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Posted - 2015.02.23 20:21:22 -
[121] - Quote
Belt Scout wrote:Sisohiv wrote:People who appreciate solo content came to the forum, were told to leave EVE, they aren't welcome.
So they did. Yeah and all we're left with is a bunch of F1 spamming monkeys that couldn't wipe their own asses without someone screaming WIPE WIPE WIPE into coms.
So that's why my bum is always dirty....
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DaReaper
Net 7
1801
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Posted - 2015.02.23 20:30:57 -
[122] - Quote
P3ps1 Max wrote:Too much ambiguity and variations in SP's for me and other friends I've talked to regarding pvp and solo fights. There needs to be some bench mark or level system in regards to a players points. Yes a dude with 70 million SP will rofl stomp the dude with 7million. With damage modifiers maxed out along with general resists (defenses) maxed out, why bother as a new player? Stroke the veterans ego? No thanks!
i.e for every 10 million sp you earn you'd gain a level. Just an idea?=ƒÿù
uh no they won't. I have 130m sp (give or take, no implants or i'd have more.) and a 7m isk noob kills me all the damn time. SP means nothing in eve.
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9878
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Posted - 2015.02.23 20:50:18 -
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DaReaper wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:Too much ambiguity and variations in SP's for me and other friends I've talked to regarding pvp and solo fights. There needs to be some bench mark or level system in regards to a players points. Yes a dude with 70 million SP will rofl stomp the dude with 7million. With damage modifiers maxed out along with general resists (defenses) maxed out, why bother as a new player? Stroke the veterans ego? No thanks!
i.e for every 10 million sp you earn you'd gain a level. Just an idea?=ƒÿù uh no they won't. I have 130m sp (give or take, no implants or i'd have more.) and a 7m isk noob kills me all the damn time. SP means nothing in eve.
Yea, but some people need an excuse for why they lose, SP is a convenient one. Others are off grid boosters, overpowerer ships, and blobbing.
What put the lie to all of that is people like Marlona Sky and others beating the crap out of people with sub par ships, taking on uneven numbers and such. That takes thinking and PLAYER skill, but they don't have that (nor do they have the will to learn) so it's "crap, i better find some external thing to pin my internal failures on before my ego takes a hit".
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1je6fl/are_you_new_to_eve_and_disillusioned_with_your/ |
Elenahina
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
129
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Posted - 2015.02.23 20:54:30 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:
What put the lie to all of that is people like Marlona Sky and others beating the crap out of people with sub par ships, taking on uneven numbers and such. That takes thinking and PLAYER skill, but they don't have that (nor do they have the will to learn) so it's "crap, i better find some external thing to pin my internal failures on before my ego takes a hit".
What LP store is that Player Skill skillbook found in Jenn? I can't seem to locate it on market anywhere. 
Agony Unleashed is Recruiting - Small Gang PvP in Null Sec
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Roxy Heart
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
5
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Posted - 2015.02.23 21:08:42 -
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Following the advice of a corp mate,( and many here it would seem ) I'm doing the whole "buy 20 cheap ships and lose them in lowsec" thing. I'm not having any trouble finding fights, my only trouble is winning them!
It is great fun and every loss ( and occasional win ) teaches me something, usually what I cocked up and how to not do it again. If a 13mill sp noob like me can find good fights I'm pretty certain anybody can if they just apply themselves a bit. |
Elenahina
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
130
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Posted - 2015.02.23 21:13:16 -
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Roxy Heart wrote:Following the advice of a corp mate,( and many here it would seem ) I'm doing the whole "buy 20 cheap ships and lose them in lowsec" thing. I'm not having any trouble finding fights, my only trouble is winning them!
It is great fun and every loss ( and occasional win ) teaches me something, usually what I cocked up and how to not do it again. If a 13mill sp noob like me can find good fights I'm pretty certain anybody can if they just apply themselves a bit.
Deliberate plug
Sign up for the Agony PvP mailing list - come take one of our classes. (Or you know, all of them)
Agony Unleashed is Recruiting - Small Gang PvP in Null Sec
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DaReaper
Net 7
1803
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Posted - 2015.02.23 21:26:48 -
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Elenahina wrote:Roxy Heart wrote:Following the advice of a corp mate,( and many here it would seem ) I'm doing the whole "buy 20 cheap ships and lose them in lowsec" thing. I'm not having any trouble finding fights, my only trouble is winning them!
It is great fun and every loss ( and occasional win ) teaches me something, usually what I cocked up and how to not do it again. If a 13mill sp noob like me can find good fights I'm pretty certain anybody can if they just apply themselves a bit. Deliberate plug Sign up for the Agony PvP mailing list - come take one of our classes. (Or you know, all of them)
that reminds me, i need to send my 100m sp pvp alt to thouse... and for the record, all gunnary and supllemental skills to 5 and i still lose to a 10m sp noob. So again SP's mean zero in eve.
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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Renegade Heart
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
414
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Posted - 2015.02.23 21:49:44 -
[128] - Quote
Roxy Heart wrote:Following the advice of a corp mate,( and many here it would seem ) I'm doing the whole "buy 20 cheap ships and lose them in lowsec" thing. I'm not having any trouble finding fights, my only trouble is winning them!
It is great fun and every loss ( and occasional win ) teaches me something, usually what I cocked up and how to not do it again. If a 13mill sp noob like me can find good fights I'm pretty certain anybody can if they just apply themselves a bit.
I died about 20 times before I got my first proper solo kill
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Kirobacsi
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
Heiian Conglomerate
14
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Posted - 2015.02.24 10:27:10 -
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You know whats funny, the OP has a avg number of 24 people on his killmails and likes to use ecm backup. |
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