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BoomBoss
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.02.20 14:38:58 -
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6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.
When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this? |
Noriko Mai
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Posted - 2015.02.20 14:40:41 -
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BoomBoss wrote:6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.
When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this?
You can't use you JD anymore? 
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Soldarius
Kosher Nostra
The 99 Percent
1115
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Posted - 2015.02.20 14:41:23 -
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BoomBoss wrote:6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.
When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this?
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m8, you're a couple expansions behind.
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Ryder 'ook
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
121
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Posted - 2015.02.20 14:44:23 -
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... but a couple of expectations in front ...
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BoomBoss
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2015.02.20 14:48:33 -
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Soldarius wrote:BoomBoss wrote:6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.
When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this? ... m8, you're a couple expansions behind.
What ya mean? Carriers 5 LY max range. Jump timers that effectively reduce the jump capability which forces you to travel by gate when you get back in the game from close to highsec. How is that even remotely possible now? A carrier solo traveling by gate... should give a funny killmail.
I have not yet seen a post about this jump fatigue being gone or heavily nerfed to respectable levels. |
Elenahina
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
124
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Posted - 2015.02.20 14:51:30 -
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BoomBoss wrote:Soldarius wrote:BoomBoss wrote:6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.
When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this? ... m8, you're a couple expansions behind. What ya mean? Carriers 5 LY max range. Jump timers that effectively reduce the jump capability which forces you to travel by gate when you get back in the game from close to highsec. How is that even remotely possible now? A carrier solo traveling by gate... should give a funny killmail. I have not yet seen a post about this jump fatigue being gone or heavily nerfed to respectable levels.
So the change is working as intended. Good to know.
Why do you think there should be compensation for a skill that still has value to you?
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BoomBoss
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.02.20 14:56:56 -
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Elenahina wrote:BoomBoss wrote:Soldarius wrote:BoomBoss wrote:6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.
When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this? ... m8, you're a couple expansions behind. What ya mean? Carriers 5 LY max range. Jump timers that effectively reduce the jump capability which forces you to travel by gate when you get back in the game from close to highsec. How is that even remotely possible now? A carrier solo traveling by gate... should give a funny killmail. I have not yet seen a post about this jump fatigue being gone or heavily nerfed to respectable levels. So the change is working as intended. Good to know. Why do you think there should be compensation for a skill that still has value to you?
What value? What used to take maybe an hour takes days now. Getting solo with a carrier back to deep nul is just not possible. So, you tell me what value? |
Memphis Baas
175
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Posted - 2015.02.20 15:05:27 -
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Wait until they take capital ships out of the game.
Note: I am not serious. |
BigWolfUK
Sons-of-Liberty
9
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Posted - 2015.02.20 15:23:23 -
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BoomBoss wrote:Elenahina wrote:BoomBoss wrote:Soldarius wrote:BoomBoss wrote:6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.
When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this? ... m8, you're a couple expansions behind. What ya mean? Carriers 5 LY max range. Jump timers that effectively reduce the jump capability which forces you to travel by gate when you get back in the game from close to highsec. How is that even remotely possible now? A carrier solo traveling by gate... should give a funny killmail. I have not yet seen a post about this jump fatigue being gone or heavily nerfed to respectable levels. So the change is working as intended. Good to know. Why do you think there should be compensation for a skill that still has value to you? What value? What used to take maybe an hour takes days now. Getting solo with a carrier back to deep nul is just not possible. So, you tell me what value?
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Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
293
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Posted - 2015.02.20 15:25:00 -
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I only just got into capitol ships. I am mostly in a WH so almost never use the JD. Yet JDC to at least 4 is in my skill plan. And not having it has already been a PITA.
You don't get compensated for a skill you stop using by choice.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9843
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Posted - 2015.02.20 15:25:10 -
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BoomBoss wrote:6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.
When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this?
You don't get compensated. You shouldn't be training skills like they are going to be useful in the same way they are now, it's not CCP's fault that people don't understand this. |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Cynosural Field Theory.
1523
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Posted - 2015.02.20 15:36:49 -
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BoomBoss wrote:6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.
When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this?
Do you even play this game? Jdc 5 is still a mandatory skill and even more important than before.
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BoomBoss
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.02.20 15:53:36 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:BoomBoss wrote:6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.
When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this? Do you even play this game? Jdc 5 is still a mandatory skill and even more important than before.
What part of a heavily nerfed skill by CCP choice, so forced upon us, that takes ages to train which used to be useful? The skill training time is not even remotely in line with what it used to be.
With a carrier, how often do you actually jump and how often do you travel by gate? |
BoBoZoBo
Paragon Fury
Tactical Narcotics Team
517
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Posted - 2015.02.20 15:56:00 -
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I have JDC 5 and it works just fine relative to the changes. If I did not have it it would be worse, so... what is the problem here?
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Lan Wang
Coreli Corporation
The Kadeshi
194
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Posted - 2015.02.20 16:01:08 -
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can i have my bomber and blops skills back because i cant use the ships to there full potential by jumping them around the map allday everyday, defeats the purpose of a black ops taking a gate
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
19976
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Posted - 2015.02.20 16:05:13 -
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You were compensated for JDC skill with the ability for caps to use gates.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Kiandoshia
Applied Anarchy
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2132
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Posted - 2015.02.20 16:14:41 -
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Train for jump freighters. Suddenly JDC5 makes sense again. |
Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
306
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Posted - 2015.02.20 16:22:59 -
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No. |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
The Irukandji.
1913
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Posted - 2015.02.20 16:25:23 -
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BoomBoss wrote:6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.
When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this?
Compensation? Talk to Obama. As far as I know Hilmar isn't going to hand any out. Your JDC 5 is just as good as my JDC 5. If you hadn't trained it, you'd be able to jump even less far.
Also, I think the jump fatigue timer should be increased a little more. |
Elenahina
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
126
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Posted - 2015.02.20 16:28:07 -
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BoomBoss wrote:[quote=Elenahina]
What value? What used to take maybe an hour takes days now. Getting solo with a carrier back to deep nul is just not possible. So, you tell me what value?
The same value it had before - your jump range is longer than the native jump range of the ship. It also has the same value to you as it has to everyone else in the game. There's no case for compensation here.
See, I knew when they opened that pandora's box, it was going to cause issues like this. Now, anytime CCP makes a skill change someone doesn't like, they scream about compensation.
The game evolves. Deal with it, or quit. But for God's sake, quit whining like a kid that dropped his ice cream.
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baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
15045
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Posted - 2015.02.20 16:32:14 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:You were compensated for JDC skill with the ability for caps to use gates.
Which is frankly a massive buff that made me want to train for capitals after 8 years of zero interest in them.
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Elenahina
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
126
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Posted - 2015.02.20 16:37:28 -
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baltec1 wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:You were compensated for JDC skill with the ability for caps to use gates.
Which is frankly a massive buff that made me want to train for capitals after 8 years of zero interest in them.
Carrier and dread roams anyone?
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
590
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Posted - 2015.02.20 17:22:17 -
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BoBoZoBo wrote:I have JDC 5 and it works just fine relative to the changes. If I did not have it it would be worse, so... what is the problem here?
Yup.
Jump fatigue and the reduced jump ranges are awful, but I don't regret training JDC 5 on my characters.
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Ryder 'ook
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
122
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Posted - 2015.02.20 17:30:16 -
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Elenahina wrote:baltec1 wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:You were compensated for JDC skill with the ability for caps to use gates.
Which is frankly a massive buff that made me want to train for capitals after 8 years of zero interest in them. Carrier and dread roams anyone?
Yes please!!!
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Desimus Maximus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
171
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Posted - 2015.02.20 18:16:21 -
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BoomBoss wrote:6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.
When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this?
I'm still waiting for my Orca and Itty V compensation.
Between the 2 ships I have just about 3 months of skilling.
Now, you can be in an Itty V in 33 min and an Orca in 17 days-ish.
And then, to top it off they remove the Itty V's crown of sub-capital hauling capacity and move it to the Bestower.
It's called a shell game. Constantly moving skills and bonuses in order to keep you and me skilling and thus subscribing.
Kind of a d!ck move if you ask me. |
Desimus Maximus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
172
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Posted - 2015.02.20 18:33:02 -
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BoomBoss wrote:What value? What used to take maybe an hour takes days now. Getting solo with a carrier back to deep nul is just not possible. So, you tell me what value?
Awww. Having to make strategic decisions that matter too tough for you? 
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Lil' Brudder Too
Pistols for Pandas
94
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Posted - 2015.02.20 18:47:20 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:.You shouldn't be training skills like they are going to be useful in the same way they are now, it's not CCP's fault that people don't understand this.
Wait...so we should be training skills for how we can dream up how they might be useful if they got changed to something else? How does that even make sense? Don't train skills for what they are good for now??? Then what other criteria should guide us in making choices as to what to train? |
Serene Repose
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Posted - 2015.02.20 18:48:53 -
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Has it been that long already? Geez! Well, that means football season will be back that much sooner!
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6285
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Posted - 2015.02.20 21:39:36 -
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Noriko Mai wrote:BoomBoss wrote:6 months down the road now with this crappy jump fatigue stuff. Yet no word on compensation on a near useless skill for most. 53 days per char and 2 chars is 106 days kind of wasted skilltime now all caps go through gates.
When are we hearing something about skill compensation because of this? You can't use you JD anymore?
I've been drinking JD since I was 14 so I don't know what the OPs problem is.
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.02.20 21:45:28 -
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BoomBoss wrote:JDC 5 ... near useless skill ... My Jump Freighter alt would like a word with you.
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