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Plan Neun Caldari Ganja Unlimited	Posted - 2006.10.09 08:14:00 - [1] Any "neutral" observer that can give any info on how combat progress exept for parties involved? "I Will Drug You and Fluff You, through the permafrost"
Ikarushka A.O.U. Corp	Posted - 2006.10.09 08:17:00 - [2] and while doing it please open a separate thread, cause there aren't pleanty already...
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 08:17:00 - [3] try looking at both killboards, youll get the picture. BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon
Kibayasu Iella The Raven Warriors	Posted - 2006.10.09 08:18:00 - [4] As a neutral observer, I'd just like to say... Best topic ever!
Major Stormer Caldari Demon Womb Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.09 08:18:00 - [5] http://www.eve-tribune.com/ That link bloody well needs a sticky -------------------------- Above post is my opinion only and does not represent my corp/alliance.
slave111 Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2006.10.09 08:28:00 - [6] I can confirm that ASCN have used there Titan in TPAR destroying the BoB fleet, ASCN will take sovrenity over the system after DT and are expected to take the station at that time. From an out siders point of view it would seem that ASCN are invading BoB space not the other way round. I will report more up to date information when I can be bothered to make some more up. Please stop feeding the trolls and delete all BoB reliated threads. ------------------------------------------------ Minority report:Father Tommaso Caccini denounced Galileo's opinions on the motion of the Earth, judging them dangerous and close to heresy
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 08:29:00 - [7] Originally by: slave111 Please stop feeding the trolls and delete all BoB reliated threads. yes ! stop feeding this guy :P BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 08:30:00 - [8] Originally by: slave111 I can confirm that ASCN have used there Titan in TPAR destroying the BoB fleet, ASCN will take sovrenity over the system after DT and are expected to take the station at that time. From an out siders point of view it would seem that ASCN are invading BoB space not the other way round. I will report more up to date information when I can be bothered to make some more up. Please stop feeding the trolls and delete all BoB reliated threads. I see some moderation in your very near future Alty McAlt. Eve Blacklight Style
Scan 7 Detroit School of Engineering	Posted - 2006.10.09 08:39:00 - [9] ACSN are getting there asses handed to them, shame none of these so called pvp alliance will attack bob
Weebear Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.09 08:42:00 - [10] Can the alt ban be extended to 1 man corps as well by any chance? They are worse than the NPC alts ever were.

Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 08:43:00 - [11] Originally by: Scan 7 ACSN are getting there asses handed to them, shame none of these so called pvp alliance will attack bob You mean its a shame more people dont help ASCN by attacking us while we are busy ? lets just say it like it is, ASCN needs all the help they can get Oh and btw , Im happy god dammit ! No BoB member is not loving this little conflict and we all love the fact the fight is taking place at home insted of us having to go 50+ jumps to get kills. 0-6 jumps for a ship replacement or more ammo 4tw \o/ BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon
Nifel Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 09:03:00 - [12] Originally by: Major Stormer http://www.eve-tribune.com/ That link bloody well needs a sticky Really well written report on the first week's activities of the war. Could really do with a sticky yes ¼_¼. "When I die I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car." RKK Ranking: (MIN14)
Wrok Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 09:08:00 - [13] you think i like making extra tacos for these long trips?
arjun Viziam	Posted - 2006.10.09 09:10:00 - [14] Edited by: arjun on 09/10/2006 09:11:12 please ascn get a handle on those numbers. i personaly dislike your alliance since the days of your gangs hugging the ec/torrinos gate for months. i also fought you long enough. BUT the numbers are making me wanna puke. i imagine the main problem is the difficulty of communication. supposedly your alliance cant be handled by a single voice com server. at least make your fighting gangs all join the same voice com. logging in after node crashes. one by one is just providing the enemy with target practice. it needs to be done coordinated. make solving that your main priority or u never will be able to compete on the battlefield.
Sir JoJo Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 09:25:00 - [15] Originally by: Nifel Originally by: Major Stormer http://www.eve-tribune.com/ That link bloody well needs a sticky Really well written report on the first week's activities of the war. Could really do with a sticky yes ¼_¼. yeah well written, only thing these days bs isent the only counter in wars. capitals snip Don't be nasty [email protected] to discuss mod - Cathath i am not nasty
Scan 7 Detroit School of Engineering	Posted - 2006.10.09 09:27:00 - [16] Originally by: Weebear Can the alt ban be extended to 1 man corps as well by any chance? They are worse than the NPC alts ever were. lol cry more, ive played since beta, and the first corp i was in right at the start of eve was with your CEO's now alt, so i have every right to post here thanks
Weebear Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.09 09:56:00 - [17] Originally by: Scan 7 Originally by: Weebear Can the alt ban be extended to 1 man corps as well by any chance? They are worse than the NPC alts ever were. lol cry more, ive played since beta, and the first corp i was in right at the start of eve was with your CEO's now alt, so i have every right to post here thanks What's your point caller? Your post wasn't even there when I started mine although now that it is I stand by my comment!
Scan 7 Detroit School of Engineering	Posted - 2006.10.09 10:11:00 - [18] Originally by: Weebear Originally by: Scan 7 Originally by: Weebear Can the alt ban be extended to 1 man corps as well by any chance? They are worse than the NPC alts ever were. lol cry more, ive played since beta, and the first corp i was in right at the start of eve was with your CEO's now alt, so i have every right to post here thanks What's your point caller? Your post wasn't even there when I started mine although now that it is I stand by my comment! My point is just cos i dont feel the need to be in a 600 man corp doesnt mean am some random newb char and that i have every right to post here as you do, now run along and die to bob 40:1
Hatsim	Posted - 2006.10.09 10:55:00 - [19] BoB's kilboard is fuubar... it need to be looked at... propaganda killboard!
Gungankllr Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.09 11:02:00 - [20] Quote: EVE System > Channel changed to PR-8CA Local Channel Gungankllr > /emote humps Blacklight Blacklight > o/ Gungankllr > Which way is Jita again? ;P Blacklight > lol head north Gungankllr > Surrender your forces in Delve or I will be forced to thrash you Gungankllr > With a herring Blacklight > /emote meekly surrenders I don't know about everybody else, but I've had a hell of a lot of fun so far. All the forum spammage, smack and all the other idiocy aside, it's been good times. Yeah, I die a lot, but I've had some damn good fights over the last few weeks. Hidden in this signature is a secret message. I like pie.

Roxanna Kell Holy Jihad	Posted - 2006.10.09 11:12:00 - [21] Originally by: Hatsim BoB's kilboard is fuubar... it need to be looked at... propaganda killboard! My computer crashed when i clicked on loss mail sections on ASCN forum. maybe thats FUBAR too, oh wait alts/ now thats fubar with a capital F U B A and R, get your main or F OFF p*Y Quote:** "Don't touch the red button!"
Dracorimus Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 11:15:00 - [22] Originally by: Gungankllr Quote: EVE System > Channel changed to PR-8CA Local Channel Gungankllr > /emote humps Blacklight Blacklight > o/ Gungankllr > Which way is Jita again? ;P Blacklight > lol head north Gungankllr > Surrender your forces in Delve or I will be forced to thrash you Gungankllr > With a herring Blacklight > /emote meekly surrenders I don't know about everybody else, but I've had a hell of a lot of fun so far. All the forum spammage, smack and all the other idiocy aside, it's been good times. Yeah, I die a lot, but I've had some damn good fights over the last few weeks. Almost had your caracal then !!! 9k from me damn uncloaking delay - Thou Shalt Not Log-Off
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 11:17:00 - [23] Originally by: Hatsim BoB's kilboard is fuubar... it need to be looked at... propaganda killboard! That is the most ridiculous crap i've heard so far. If we die we post it, if we kill we post. It probably need's its own node or something if anything becasue it crashed from us havin to post so many kill's. Unless you have evidence to back up your blatant lies mr cowardly alt, go away til you spawn some balls to postwith your main. kthxbye. Iron and G eat babie's, my views are my own and do not reflect my corp or my alliance
darth solo Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.09 11:18:00 - [24] serious question... whos the ASCN fleet commanders?. or do u even have any?. on sunday u guys lost 90 BS and killed none... i wouldnt have thought that was possible.. ill log on a an alt or something and call for you if ur finding fleet fights that hard. You folks need good commanders asap... its turning into a turkey shoot.. you are making BOB look much better than they really are. anyways, just an outsider looking in. but wow. d solo.
darth solo Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.09 11:19:00 - [25] Originally by: fire 59 Originally by: Hatsim BoB's kilboard is fuubar... it need to be looked at... propaganda killboard! That is the most ridiculous crap i've heard so far. If we die we post it, if we kill we post. It probably need's its own node or something if anything becasue it crashed from us havin to post so many kill's. Unless you have evidence to back up your blatant lies mr cowardly alt, go away til you spawn some balls to postwith your main. kthxbye. to be fair BOBs boards are usually pretty good.. and if they aint, mail a CEO and they will post the missing mails. or mail me and il do it with my alt spy. d solo.
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.09 11:23:00 - [26] Edited by: welsh wizard on 09/10/2006 11:25:46 Originally by: Major Stormer http://www.eve-tribune.com/ That link bloody well needs a sticky Agree that website is great! Doesn't get updated enough though. :/ Originally by: darth solo ..... or mail me and il do it with my alt spy. d solo. Stan? Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
Gungankllr Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.09 11:26:00 - [27] Originally by: Dracorimus Almost had your caracal then !!! 9k from me damn uncloaking delay I would have engaged you, but Blacklight had to undock in a Raven Hidden in this signature is a secret message. I like pie.
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 11:34:00 - [28] Originally by: darth solo serious question... whos the ASCN fleet commanders?. or do u even have any?. on sunday u guys lost 90 BS and killed none... i wouldnt have thought that was possible.. ill log on a an alt or something and call for you if ur finding fleet fights that hard. You folks need good commanders asap... its turning into a turkey shoot.. you are making BOB look much better than they really are. anyways, just an outsider looking in. but wow. d solo. Well the fact that CELES keeps following us in every post wont make u also look better than what u realy are now , eh darth And if ur soo eager to "Help" as u say , u know how to eve mail cyvvok now cant u ?? Very unlikely ASCN will start a tactics and military operations with u on open forusm now would they From a neutral point of view i approve of this thread "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.09 11:55:00 - [29] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: darth solo serious question... whos the ASCN fleet commanders?. or do u even have any?. on sunday u guys lost 90 BS and killed none... i wouldnt have thought that was possible.. ill log on a an alt or something and call for you if ur finding fleet fights that hard. You folks need good commanders asap... its turning into a turkey shoot.. you are making BOB look much better than they really are. anyways, just an outsider looking in. but wow. d solo. Well the fact that CELES keeps following us in every post wont make u also look better than what u realy are now , eh darth And if ur soo eager to "Help" as u say , u know how to eve mail cyvvok now cant u ?? Very unlikely ASCN will start a tactics and military operations with u on open forusm now would they From a neutral point of view i approve of this thread We could throw that right back at ya Yazoul and say that you follow us into our threads. Which you do, theres no denying it, darths post about Fountain was immediately set upon by your forum squad. Same as pretty much every post hes ever made since the RKK relationship went sour. Thing is posts that involve BoB or are about BoB make up the bulk of these forums.... Public forums, look up public in the dictionary. Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
Roxanna Kell Holy Jihad	Posted - 2006.10.09 12:08:00 - [30] Edited by: Roxanna Kell on 09/10/2006 12:09:31 there is Mercenary fleet commanders about. but one of ASCN's fleet commander told me he is annoyed with him being caleled primary all the time. enemies always know who commands. Quote: "Don't touch the red button!"

HordeZla Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 12:38:00 - [31] Originally by: Roxanna Kell Edited by: Roxanna Kell on 09/10/2006 12:09:31 there is Mercenary fleet commanders about. but one of ASCN's fleet commander told me he is annoyed with him being caleled primary all the time. enemies always know who commands. This game has been going a long time and your experianced FC will probley have a good idea who ours are. I am Ex ROA and if we ever went to war with them I could name many of there FC's. However, a FC is only skilled upto the point of fighting starting, by this time he has used his skills to get the advantage and in the engagment all is left to call targets and anyone can say a name over TS so calling FC primary is only good tactic if the fleet can't be arsed to call them self. On an other note I want to say much respect to ASCN for the fun had so far, I am not going to get wound up by any of the non involved flaimers as they are just making the situation worse. To resolve this situation I think that we as involved pilots should check each others kill boards and eve mail there CEO's and disparaties and inform them of any potential exploits/smack etc as I for one am sick of our dirty laundry been aired in these public forums. I had a problem with an ASCN pilot doint a possible exploit, i sent a patation with evidence and informed his CEO, I got a good, mature and respectfull responce from his leadership and have not seen this pilot online for 3 weeks now?? ASCN I offer you my hand as a token of appreciation and request all INVOLVED pilots leave the whorage to in-game as the trolls are spoiling the game for many. >>> I am a troll <<< Sorry for my crap spelling. my views and all that. PS my CEO is a lady boy so I am told!
Icomeinpeace Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 13:08:00 - [32] We could throw that right back at ya Yazoul and say that you follow us into our threads. Which you do, theres no denying it, darths post about Fountain was immediately set upon by your forum squad. Same as pretty much every post hes ever made since the RKK relationship went sour. Thing is posts that involve BoB or are about BoB make up the bulk of these forums.... Public forums, look up public in the dictionary. Well you guys make threads that obviously involve us (BoB) everytime.When do we make threads geared towards Celes, like never as far as I can remember.So yes CELES follow us in threads that do not concern them and you also make posts directed towards us. Oh yeah, and darth leading them wou;dn't help much, there are no npc stations in the area
Third Down Hard Rock Cafe	Posted - 2006.10.09 13:15:00 - [33] FC == target caller? no good policy! FC should be covops\|recon, and he nominate damage dealer to call primary...! other way is foolisjh
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 13:19:00 - [34] Originally by: welsh wizard Wizard Love You big fat liar , i am still recovering from illness and u didnt send me those grapes yet you promised Tbh CELES and BOB would make an epic episode on jerry springer one day "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
Buxaroo Black Dwarf Caldari Deep Space Industral	Posted - 2006.10.09 13:44:00 - [35] Originally by: Roxanna Kell Edited by: Roxanna Kell on 09/10/2006 12:09:31 there is Mercenary fleet commanders about. but one of ASCN's fleet commander told me he is annoyed with him being caleled primary all the time. enemies always know who commands. Err.....with fleets that size doesn't it make sense to have a second and a third commander waiting to take over once the FC goes pop? Jeesh, that's fleet operations 101
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.10.09 13:46:00 - [36] Isnt it about time ASCN bit the bullet and hired in some experienced PvPers to control thier fleets? How can you be sustaining such bheavy losses?? wtf? BoB are simply not THAT good. Let your pride go, and go hire in someone (KIA are not available btw) I think I saw D Solo offering earlier on in the thread, anyone like him would be perfect, get ya hands out of your pockets and do what ya need to do. Your fleet commanders simply suck. KIA EVE Home
Buxaroo Black Dwarf Caldari Deep Space Industral	Posted - 2006.10.09 13:51:00 - [37] Originally by: Third Down FC == target caller? no good policy! FC should be covops\|recon, and he nominate damage dealer to call primary...! other way is foolisjh In theory that might work, but in reality it isn't effective. With a small gang yes you can do it but anything large isn't going to work good. The FC needs to be with the main gang IMHO.
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 14:05:00 - [38] Originally by: KIAEddZ Isnt it about time ASCN bit the bullet and hired in some experienced PvPers to control thier fleets? How can you be sustaining such bheavy losses?? wtf? BoB are simply not THAT good. Let your pride go, and go hire in someone (KIA are not available btw) I think I saw D Solo offering earlier on in the thread, anyone like him would be perfect, get ya hands out of your pockets and do what ya need to do. Your fleet commanders simply suck. Hi Eddz why all the harsh words? We having fun with the hobbits thats all , who cares about heavy losses ASCN say they dont and we obviously dont either although we have a "pooor" industrial backbone as many third party well informed ppl have contributed in many threads "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
HordeZla Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 14:10:00 - [39] The issues about FC and gang leaders are probley the critical problems in ASCN but please don't try and state what's right or wrong in reguards to how an alliance operates as after all someone has to loose. Some of the problems ASCN I have witnesed are simpley down to single players either not talking or not listining. BoB may not the best PvP alliance out there but please do not say that we are not that good as your reputation is only based on who you have beat and unless you are in an alliance or corp that has taken land from us I don't mean killed player but actuialy accumplished something to our detriment then a statment of such can't be valid? I am not trying to smack but I am trying to stop people creating flaim. ASCN would do we to have a look at there leadership in fleet ops or mabey just listen to what there saying a little better and follow orders to the letter? It could just be a case of player abilities as the BoB kill boards show a massive ammount of support losses to BoB so mabey they can't operate at 160+ sniping range so have to go for the smaller closer ships? I don't know but what I do know is there putting up a fight and that's more that most corps that have flamed us on the many meany threads about this. Non of this is flame just me been boared in my highley paid job with no work, gota love the british army. I am dyslexic and can't be arsed sorting my spelling....sorry.
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 14:19:00 - [40] Originally by: KIAEddZ BoB are simply not THAT good. Obviously we are.

KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.10.09 14:27:00 - [41] Not for 1 second am I saying that BoB wont win every major engagement they have, because they probbaly will, the experience levels and skill levels are simply much too far apart, but for ascn to be losing bs for 0 retaliation kills, something has to be wrong in either their planning or command, probably both. There are capable FCs for hire, aswell as war strategists, ASCN from the look of it do not have an abundance of experience in these fields, I was simply asking why they havent gone out and hired in a PvP expert group to take control of their industrial alliance... It doesnt matter how much isk you got, a 100 bs losses a day will eventually drain the resource away. (KIA are still neutral btw, I dont mean anyone any disrespect), just pretty much stating the obvious. KIA EVE Home
Scan 7 Detroit School of Engineering	Posted - 2006.10.09 14:39:00 - [42] Originally by: KIAEddZ It doesnt matter how much isk you got, a 100 bs losses a day will eventually drain the resource away. (KIA are still neutral btw, I dont mean anyone any disrespect), just pretty much stating the obvious. Moral normally goes way before isk
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 15:29:00 - [43] I seriously think Cyvok should hire butter dog as a expert in the art of warfare. He seems to be able to know exactly what the BoB leadership are thinking, what we are doing wrong, why we are failing and why we will never win. I think these would be useful to Cyvok in his war against us. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Tholarim Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 15:37:00 - [44] Originally by: KIAEddZ Not for 1 second am I saying that BoB wont win every major engagement they have, because they probbaly will, the experience levels and skill levels are simply much too far apart, but for ascn to be losing bs for 0 retaliation kills, something has to be wrong in either their planning or command, probably both. There are capable FCs for hire, aswell as war strategists, ASCN from the look of it do not have an abundance of experience in these fields, I was simply asking why they havent gone out and hired in a PvP expert group to take control of their industrial alliance... It doesnt matter how much isk you got, a 100 bs losses a day will eventually drain the resource away. (KIA are still neutral btw, I dont mean anyone any disrespect), just pretty much stating the obvious. FC's are only as good as the ppl they have with them. Even the best FC in the world couldn't make **** fighters into superb ones m8. It might help with the lonely ganks here and there, but on average, a good fc can't improve that much.
Hast Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 15:44:00 - [45] and to add to what thol wrote... I think that for a FC leading a ASCN fleet would be more a test of his patience then his gangleading abilities Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
Fi T'Zeh Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 16:22:00 - [46] Hast for FC tbh. (we are talking about Forum Commanders here right ?) .... POST WITH YOUR MAIN !!!!11111one Real men use blasters
SkottE SkottE Technologies	Posted - 2006.10.09 16:24:00 - [47] Originally by: Weebear Can the alt ban be extended to 1 man corps as well by any chance? They are worse than the NPC alts ever were. how about no? _________________________________________ Want to build Tech2 equipment and ships? Take a look here to find out!
Hast Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 16:34:00 - [48] Originally by: Fi T'Zeh Hast for FC tbh. (we are talking about Forum Commanders here right ?) what else can FC be? enter thread "Celes Apoc want to make you rich, VERY rich, STINKING RICH." and troll, Primary target is Darth Solo, Secondary is welsh wizard Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
xlop Gallente Yes no maybe - i dont know	Posted - 2006.10.09 16:42:00 - [49] Originally by: Hast Originally by: Fi T'Zeh Hast for FC tbh. (we are talking about Forum Commanders here right ?) what else can FC be? enter thread "Celes Apoc want to make you rich, VERY rich, STINKING RICH." and troll, Primary target is Darth Solo, Secondary is welsh wizard -- Imperial College London FTW --
Gothikia Ladyboys Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.09 16:51:00 - [50] Originally by: KIAEddZ Your fleet commanders simply suck. Yeah they do. AXE has one or two that are decent tho... -------------- I'm a homeless vagabond

Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.09 16:58:00 - [51] Just huge lol @ all the people coming here and explaining what the problems of ascn are without ever being in the alliance. I am not saying FCing cant be improved but I smile when I read all the smartasses asking to be hired as fcs pretending they know it all. -> - Gob [IXC] Admiral Goberius
BlackRain Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 17:07:00 - [52] Being good and effective in combat is a sum of many things, not just sound fleet commanding inside a fight, not just the pre-fight strategic planning or the individual skill of the pilots. It's them all combined. Also, different scenarios demand for different approach and more flexibility. Fortunately the crew material we have provides us with a great deal of this. For an example I could imagine that some of the kills we have scored after the node crashes are a result of the fact that the average combat pilot in BoB is usually more than capable of functioning on a battlefield on his own without the FC necessarily having to hold his / hers hand. Staying sharp, not panicing, making the right decisions and acting accordingly are the qualities which give us this extra dimension of flexibility. So far it at least looks like our enemy generally hasn't got the level of "battle awareness" we have. Yet, at least. ------------------- -
Gungankllr Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.09 17:22:00 - [53] I'm the best FC in all of ASCN. Those asteroids don't stand a chance when i'm running things. Hidden in this signature is a secret message. I like pie.
Gierling Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.09 17:45:00 - [54] I do think the Big problem is in the mass of it. EVE at the moment just can't handle fights of this size and the more I play the more convinced I am that it is a structural problem that cannot be changed. We actually do fair enough when its a handful of gents going pew pew at each other. We don't pwn but we actually do manage to kill BOB. The problems arising are when its huge numbers of folk loading grids/systems. It's once the server goes ker-**** that BOB's experience edge really becomes a bear to deal with. And no I'm not accussing them of cheating, they just have a good deal of experience. When your average ASCN member is going "WTF why is it lagging so badly, I hope the Node didn't crash", the Average BOB member has already realized the Node took a dump and is in the midst of clearing cache and launching a new client. Thats when the numbers get ugly as its no longer a 40 on 40 fight, its a 20 on 4 or 5 fight that gets decided real quickly and then over the course of the next 10 minutes or so the entirely fleet gets wasted as they show up one by one. Its entirely because of the tremendous confidence and experience we are facing, and its entirely a razors edge with extremely binary results. It is irritating, its frustrating but its not ASCN's fault and its not BOB's fault. I think even the BOB folks, despite thier kills advantage will even admit that server performance is very disappointing. I'm starting to think that CCP is going to need to majorly gut the game to get the data sent back and forth down to a manageable level. (I fully expect one of two things, either lame preset matched battles like WOW's Battlegrounds, or consolidation on par with making ships have fewer slots approximating the same level of ability they have now with less versatility).
Anal Retentive	Posted - 2006.10.09 17:56:00 - [55] You crazy people all this epeen waving will make the girls wet
dabster Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.09 18:07:00 - [56] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: welsh wizard Wizard Love Tbh CELES and BOB would make an epic episode on jerry springer one day rofl QFT ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click.
ProphetGuru Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 18:08:00 - [57] I don't understand why anyone thinks celest would be of help to acsn. Their's not any npc stations to hide in where we're fighting, Outbreak isin't there to carry them, and it's not like they have ever had experience leading fleets at this level of Eve. Not to mention they need to be up in Fountain protecting all the noobs they invited to come mine.... :) Insults aside, Darth would likely pull his hair out 10min into leading an acsn gang. In reality, celest is pretty disciplined, and acsn is.. not. Lastly, I would seriously lol if acsn, who has placed themselves for months at the top of the alliance heap with others... had to contract out their FC's. Talk about spitting in your own commanders faces. Hmm, wouldn't suprise me if Cyvok did it on second thought. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
Red Six Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 18:09:00 - [58] Gierling, part of the problem is the fact that useless data is loaded. I have no need to know what you have in your cargo hold yet supposedly that is part of the data that is transfered back and forth to all clients. Now multiply that by 200 pilots and that's an awful lot of useless data. I seriously wonder what an effect not passing just this bit of data would do to the lag. How many different types of ammo does your ship carry in its cargo hold? Say for arguments sake 5 ammo types each is one bit of data. Those 5 bits of data now need to be propogated to the 99 guys to my right and left. When you warp in all your ships need to load that 5 bits of data plus the 5 bits of data from the other 99 members of the my gang and vice versa. So you each need to load 500 bits of data plus transmit your 5 bits to the server at the same time all your friends are doing the same. I think you can see where this is going. Just simply removing this one simple thing will reduce the amount of overhead that the server has to send to each client. This may or may not have a huge effect on server performance but it's an example of non-essential data that is passed back and forth during PVP.
Scoundrelus Unseen Jihad	Posted - 2006.10.09 18:36:00 - [59] Edited by: Scoundrelus on 09/10/2006 18:37:07 Originally by: darth solo Originally by: fire 59 Originally by: Hatsim BoB's kilboard is fuubar... it need to be looked at... propaganda killboard! That is the most ridiculous crap i've heard so far. If we die we post it, if we kill we post. It probably need's its own node or something if anything becasue it crashed from us havin to post so many kill's. Unless you have evidence to back up your blatant lies mr cowardly alt, go away til you spawn some balls to postwith your main. kthxbye. to be fair BOBs boards are usually pretty good.. and if they aint, mail a CEO and they will post the missing mails. or mail me and il do it with my alt spy. d solo. This kill has nothing to do with the ASCN vs BoB conflict but I've been trying to get it posted for a while now, Blacklight ignored me when I sent it to him and the victim didn't post it, so here it is: 2006.06.15 22:40 Victim: Greg Sanders Alliance: Band of Brothers Corp: Black Nova Corp Destroyed: Crow System: Vezila Security: 0.3 Involved parties: Name: Scoundrelus (laid the final blow) Security: -4.4 Alliance: None Corp: Terror Legion Ship: Maller Weapon: Medium Pulse Laser II Name: Blood Converter / Blood Raiders Destroyed items: Beta Hull Mod Nanofiber Structure 1MN MicroWarpdrive II Rocket Launcher II Faint Warp Prohibitor I Small Diminishing Power System Drain I Thorn Rocket, Qty: 31 Thorn Rocket, Qty: 31 UPLOAD YOUR LOSSES! Upload this for me Mr BoB Spy, also lets hope this gets this pointless thread locked. =============================================== We are Watching You.
Hoss Bogg	Posted - 2006.10.09 18:51:00 - [60] Last thing I heard was the BoB had hired D2 to help em protect Delve region becuse They cant protect it em selfe

Hast Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 18:55:00 - [61] Originally by: Hoss Bogg Last thing I heard was the BoB had hired D2 to help em protect Delve region becuse They cant protect it em selfe actually we hired Axiom empire to do that for us ehem /me starts passing out the tin foil hats Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
Nira Li Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.09 19:01:00 - [62] Originally by: Hast Originally by: Hoss Bogg Last thing I heard was the BoB had hired D2 to help em protect Delve region becuse They cant protect it em selfe actually we hired Axiom empire to do that for us ehem /me starts passing out the tin foil hats We have also been in talks with LV to come help us clean out the trash in Delve. You Will Cry My Name
Zeveron Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.09 19:07:00 - [63] Originally by: Hast Originally by: Hoss Bogg Last thing I heard was the BoB had hired D2 to help em protect Delve region becuse They cant protect it em selfe actually we hired Axiom empire to do that for us ehem /me starts passing out the tin foil hats damn, pls hire POS aswell we need support :-) ----------------------------------
Uinein Caldari Constructive Influence	Posted - 2006.10.09 20:35:00 - [64] This story is everything these forums aren't, Factual!
m0jo Brutor tribe	Posted - 2006.10.09 22:53:00 - [65] Originally by: darth solo serious question... whos the ASCN fleet commanders?. or do u even have any?. on sunday u guys lost 90 BS and killed none... i wouldnt have thought that was possible.. ill log on a an alt or something and call for you if ur finding fleet fights that hard. You folks need good commanders asap... its turning into a turkey shoot.. you are making BOB look much better than they really are. anyways, just an outsider looking in. but wow. d solo. I dont think they need help finding the X in the top right hand corner there darth.
Ab Initio Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 01:28:00 - [66] Originally by: Uinein This story is everything these forums aren't, Factual! While I agree that it is a good summary of the situation, theres not really anything that hasn't been said by BoB on these forums already. If you read through the relevant BoB posts, it gives a more detailed account of some of the areas included in that summery. We're just a little more..... Passionate in our descriptions :)
Snare Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.10 01:32:00 - [67] Originally by: Ab Initio We're just a little more..... Passionate in our descriptions :) let me fix that for you Originally by: Ab Initio We're just a little more..... biased in our descriptions :)
Ab Initio Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 01:55:00 - [68] Originally by: Snare Originally by: Ab Initio We're just a little more..... Passionate in our descriptions :) let me fix that for you Originally by: Ab Initio We're just a little more..... biased in our descriptions :) There is a large difference between being biased, and being blunt. The difference between that post and ours, is that it's heavily sugarcoated. The numbers are the same. Originally by: Eve Tribune On Sunday, BoB forces were again mostly undisturbed, taking only three losses and causing 88 Battleship losses on ASCN side. I do agree though, "mostly undisturbed" sounds much better than "busy slaughtering".
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.10 02:10:00 - [69] Edited by: welsh wizard on 10/10/2006 02:12:03 Originally by: m0jo Originally by: darth solo serious question... whos the ASCN fleet commanders?. or do u even have any?. on sunday u guys lost 90 BS and killed none... i wouldnt have thought that was possible.. ill log on a an alt or something and call for you if ur finding fleet fights that hard. You folks need good commanders asap... its turning into a turkey shoot.. you are making BOB look much better than they really are. anyways, just an outsider looking in. but wow. d solo. I dont think they need help finding the X in the top right hand corner there darth. bdum tsch! Shadows of their formerselves, loggers, blobbers, empire choke point huggers, pirates, exploiters, station huggers, irrelevant etc etc We've been called it all, and yet 3 years later we're still here showing everyones arse to the jumpgates. Give it a rest. edit: Oh and look, you bought the celes smack to a thread which has nothing to do with us, for a change..... Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 02:14:00 - [70] Originally by: welsh wizard We've been called it all, and yet 3 years later we're still here showing everyones arse to the jumpgates. Isnt that called Mooning ppl ? j/k No bob thread will ever be complete without celes coming in for some jolly good ole bouting , ahhh way intresting than the boring slump these forums was cpl of weeks ago. "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"

welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.10 02:15:00 - [71] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: welsh wizard We've been called it all, and yet 3 years later we're still here showing everyones arse to the jumpgates. Isnt that called Mooning ppl ? j/k No bob thread will ever be complete without celes coming in for some jolly good ole bouting , ahhh way intresting than the boring slump these forums was cpl of weeks ago. And yet one of your members started it!? Wow! Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 02:18:00 - [72] Originally by: welsh wizard And yet one of your members started it!? Wow! So? Come on admit that u enjoy it also same as we do , or u rather get back to 1 post a day about dishonoring 1vs1 or robinhood is a corp thief "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.10 02:23:00 - [73] Edited by: welsh wizard on 10/10/2006 02:25:53 I hate it Yazoul, I really do hate the Eve-O forums when it degenerates into all this crap. Talk to any of my corp mates, I believe you're friends with and live close to LordChaos? The inside joke is that "welsh is a pacifist", "welsh feels sorry for the enemy when he ganks them", "welsh just wants everyone to have fun etc". I just don't like negative comments about my friends, I feel obliged to defend them on the forums when its neccessary. Guess that makes me a smack talker, I just hate arguing with people who I know probably think like me but are sat on the opposite side of the fence. It's a shame, the forums suck but misconstrued facts (in my eyes) must be righted. Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
Daniel Grim	Posted - 2006.10.10 03:37:00 - [74] Edited by: Daniel Grim on 10/10/2006 03:42:13 SHUTDOWN OF ASCN TITAN - THAT IS TRUE ????!!!!! - killmail from ascn.eve-killboard.net 2006.10.10 21:17 Victim: CYVOK Alliance: Ascendant Frontier Corp: Celestial Horizon Corp. Destroyed: Avatar System: AZN-D2 Security: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: Wuubaa Security: -4.0 Alliance: Band of Brothers Corp: Reikoku Ship: Tempest Weapon: 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II .... total: 16 bs, 1 astrate, 2 eagles ....
Ab Initio Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 03:41:00 - [75] Originally by: Daniel Grim Edited by: Daniel Grim on 10/10/2006 03:39:51 SHUTDOWN OF ASCN TITAN - THAT IS TRUE ????!!!!! - killmail from ASCN killboard - 2006.10.10 21:17 Victim: CYVOK Alliance: Ascendant Frontier Corp: Celestial Horizon Corp. Destroyed: Avatar System: AZN-D2 Security: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: Wuubaa Security: -4.0 Alliance: Band of Brothers Corp: Reikoku Ship: Tempest Weapon: 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II .... total: 16 bs, 1 astrate, 2 eagles .... No, looks like a fake mail posted on the killboard.
Red Six Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 03:43:00 - [76] Not true, no idea why someone posted that on ASCN's boards. The time stamp is about 18 or so hours in the future.
Rift Scorn Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 03:54:00 - [77] Originally by: Daniel Grim Edited by: Daniel Grim on 10/10/2006 03:42:13 SHUTDOWN OF ASCN TITAN - THAT IS TRUE ????!!!!! - killmail from ascn.eve-killboard.net 2006.10.10 21:17 Victim: CYVOK Alliance: Ascendant Frontier Corp: Celestial Horizon Corp. Destroyed: Avatar System: AZN-D2 Security: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: Wuubaa Security: -4.0 Alliance: Band of Brothers Corp: Reikoku Ship: Tempest Weapon: 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II .... total: 16 bs, 1 astrate, 2 eagles .... This is complete crap. The only bump in we've had with CYVOK's new toy has been documented, smacked, locked, smacked again, post analyzed, smacked, locked for cleaning, smacked further, then moved onto something else someone said about something that happened. I don't know who fabricated this trash, but it's pretty damn sad they couldn't sort the details out properly at the very least. Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03!
Mr AtLanTis God's of Eve	Posted - 2006.10.10 03:55:00 - [78] Edited by: Mr AtLanTis on 10/10/2006 03:55:29 Originally by: Daniel Grim Edited by: Daniel Grim on 10/10/2006 03:42:13 SHUTDOWN OF ASCN TITAN - THAT IS TRUE ????!!!!! - killmail from ascn.eve-killboard.net 2006.10.10 21:17 Victim: CYVOK Alliance: Ascendant Frontier Corp: Celestial Horizon Corp. Destroyed: Avatar System: AZN-D2 Security: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: Wuubaa Security: -4.0 Alliance: Band of Brothers Corp: Reikoku Ship: Tempest Weapon: 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II .... total: 16 bs, 1 astrate, 2 eagles .... So, you post here, using an alt, and without looking at the thread thats about 4 threads below this about the same topic? incase you cant read, here is the link: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=408210
Plan Neun Caldari Ganja Unlimited	Posted - 2006.10.10 08:15:00 - [79] Thanks for the link to Eve-Tribune. Site was unknown to me. "I Will Drug You and Fluff You, through the permafrost"
Latex Mistress Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.10 10:04:00 - [80] CLS hired BDCI/FRICK (the inception of the MC) to help (first case of a target-turned-employer). CLS/ASCN brought on a bunch of ex-m0o a long while back (Bob GhengisKahn, Riddari, et al) to train FC's (or were they just hired guns?) My point is that, if the above is true, CYVOK has shown considerable wisdom at times in the past regarding giving his people the support they need. To not do so now means either he's confident in the outcome of the Pendulum War or is victim of oversight (or worse). LM Latex Mistresss: bringing truth to the truculent one post at a time

Xavier Cardde DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.10 12:04:00 - [81] in the end both sides lack the guns, numbers, and node stablity for a clear victory. we shall shoot each other until we get tired of it.... thats the war.
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 12:47:00 - [82] Originally by: Xavier Cardde in the end both sides lack the guns, numbers, and node stablity for a clear victory. we shall shoot each other until we get tired of it.... thats the war. And here layeth a big part of why you will lose: Because you don't think you can win. We have no doubt in our minds whatsoever, we WILL beat you, we WILL be victorious. It is merely a question of time.
Funky Feeling	Posted - 2006.10.10 13:03:00 - [83] Originally by: Roxanna Kell Edited by: Roxanna Kell on 09/10/2006 12:09:31 there is Mercenary fleet commanders about. but one of ASCN's fleet commander told me he is annoyed with him being caleled primary all the time. enemies always know who commands. He can not command from his Pod?
SkottE SkottE Technologies	Posted - 2006.10.10 13:03:00 - [84] Originally by: Third Down FC == target caller? no good policy! FC should be covops\|recon, and he nominate damage dealer to call primary...! other way is foolisjh I know ppl who have flown blastathrons inj close range engagments ot have bee ngang leaders _________________________________________ Want to build Tech2 equipment and ships? Take a look here to find out!
Amthrianius Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 13:20:00 - [85] Edited by: Amthrianius on 10/10/2006 13:20:48 Originally by: Uinein This story is everything these forums aren't, Factual! I prefer McGreedy's Analysis of the war Originally by: McGreedy Then came the lag. More precisely, the exploits used by BoB in ordered to crash the node and insta-log back on again in order to kill our fleet Originally by: McGreedy However I successfuly came up with a way to counter the node crash and we implemented that and from about 17.00 Eve time, a GM turned up in TCAG, meaning BoB couldn't crash the node Originally by: McGreedy Things were also not helped by a GM moving BoB en masse back into TPAR from TCAG just as ASCN was gaining the upper hand, then moving them back when we didn't expect it and without warning, allowing them to kill a sizeable proportion of our fleet. We're petitioning that. Oh and last but not least Originally by: McGreedy So what am I saying? I'm presenting you with facts without propeganda or embelishment. ---------------
Lord Draco Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 13:31:00 - [86] It's sad watching another xirtam being created in front of my eyes.
Hast Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 13:34:00 - [87] infact, they have several dork lords in one alliance! But credit where credit is due, atleast xirt is seen on the frontline Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 13:35:00 - [88] Edited by: DB Preacher on 10/10/2006 13:35:10 Bring back Halseth! All is forgotten! The crazy levels of paranoia in ASCN high command is going to split them wide apart faster than anything we could do or say. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Lord Draco Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 13:36:00 - [89] Originally by: Hast infact, they have several dork lords in one alliance! But credit where credit is due, atleast xirt is seen on the frontline true true I kinda miss the guy strangly enough.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.10 13:36:00 - [90] Originally by: Louisa Torres Originally by: Xavier Cardde in the end both sides lack the guns, numbers, and node stablity for a clear victory. we shall shoot each other until we get tired of it.... thats the war. And here layeth a big part of why you will lose: Because you don't think you can win. We have no doubt in our minds whatsoever, we WILL beat you, we WILL be victorious. It is merely a question of time. You will what? You havent stated ANY objectives, so how can you measure success? You will note that crucially, he does not believe you can win either. What he says is true - the current game mechanics and server issues mean that a system-by-system seige of ASCN space is totally unrealistic. The most you can hope for are some node crashes and, if you are lucky, the odd lagged out fleet engagement. As for you taking over ASCN space - quite simply, it will never happen. And everyone knows it. But thats the great thing about not stating any objectives, anything can be a 'victory' as you have not defined your goals.

Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 13:39:00 - [91] Originally by: Lord Draco It's sad watching another xirtam being created in front of my eyes. Sad ? I'm laughing my ass off here ! Old blog
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 13:40:00 - [92] Edited by: DB Preacher on 10/10/2006 13:42:39 Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Louisa Torres Originally by: Xavier Cardde in the end both sides lack the guns, numbers, and node stablity for a clear victory. we shall shoot each other until we get tired of it.... thats the war. And here layeth a big part of why you will lose: Because you don't think you can win. We have no doubt in our minds whatsoever, we WILL beat you, we WILL be victorious. It is merely a question of time. You will what? You havent stated ANY objectives, so how can you measure success? Just because we haven't stated any objectives to random people like you who have nothing to do with the conflict doesn't mean there are strict objectives set within the BoB leadership by which we can measure success. Yet again your posting is amusing to me. Thanks, dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.10 13:43:00 - [93] Originally by: DB Preacher Just because we haven't stated any objectives to random people like you who have nothing to do with the conflict doesn't mean there are strict objectives set within the BoB leadership. Yet again your posting is amusing to me. Thanks, dbp I understand perfectly that you will not wish to state your objectives. However, I find it amusing that your forum warriors seem to hint at nothing less than the destruction of ASCN. They talk about 'win' and 'lose' in absolute terms. This is an easy thing to do without clearly stated goals, and so only serves to make your forum warriors look foolish and short-sighted.
Lord Draco Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 13:45:00 - [94] Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Lord Draco It's sad watching another xirtam being created in front of my eyes. Sad ? I'm laughing my ass off here ! I just feel bad for the few that buy into the outrageous lies and may end up leaving Eve because of the outright lies they tell.
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 13:45:00 - [95] Edited by: DB Preacher on 10/10/2006 13:48:54 Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: DB Preacher Just because we haven't stated any objectives to random people like you who have nothing to do with the conflict doesn't mean there are strict objectives set within the BoB leadership. Yet again your posting is amusing to me. Thanks, dbp I understand perfectly that you will not wish to state your objectives. However, I find it amusing that your forum warriors seem to hint at nothing less than the destruction of ASCN. They talk about 'win' and 'lose' in absolute terms. This is an easy thing to do without clearly stated goals, and so only serves to make your forum warriors look foolish and short-sighted. What was your point here? Was it simply the flame telling everyone that our members look foolish and short-sighted? Or was there actually a point to you coming onto this thread? dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.10 13:53:00 - [96] Originally by: DB Preacher What was your point here? Was it simply the flame telling everyone that our members look foolish and short-sighted? Or was there actually a point to you coming onto this thread? dbp I was responding to your alliance member who stated "we WILL beat you, we WILL be victorious". I was pointing out that as you cannot measure victory if you have no stated goals, its a rather pointless statement to make. You will kill more ships than them? Hardly an impressive goal. You will take over their space? Not possible with current game mechanics and server issues. You will take over Paragon Soul? What, while you can't even effectively police fountain. The point of this thread, DBP, is a debate on the war between yourselves and ASCN. My posts were perfectly relevant, the only troll here is the one I am bothering to reply to.
Zimi Vlasic F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2006.10.10 13:54:00 - [97] Originally by: Xavier Cardde in the end both sides lack the guns, numbers, and node stablity for a clear victory. we shall shoot each other until we get tired of it.... thats the war. Die. Die a horrible death. Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 13:55:00 - [98] Originally by: Lord Draco Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Lord Draco It's sad watching another xirtam being created in front of my eyes. Sad ? I'm laughing my ass off here ! I just feel bad for the few that buy into the outrageous lies and may end up leaving Eve because of the outright lies they tell. Well, yeah, after reading the rest of his post and knowing his position in ASCN some sadness seems to manifest itself in a corner of my pyche. NOT ! Oh...my...god, what a totally deranged piece of posting Old blog
Afonso Henriques Minmatar Low Grade Ore	Posted - 2006.10.10 13:55:00 - [99] Originally by: Butter Dog while you can't even effectively police fountain. Policing space is for rent-a-cop types like yourself tbh.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.10 13:55:00 - [100] hmmm interesting interesting.... the Tpar thread got locked by request of the OP.. SirMolle giveth, and SirMolle taketh away.. I'm guessing there may be another juicy thread just around the corner... now that the Tpar siege is over.. /emote is giddy with anticipation...

LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 13:55:00 - [101] Originally by: Zimi Vlasic Originally by: Xavier Cardde in the end both sides lack the guns, numbers, and node stablity for a clear victory. we shall shoot each other until we get tired of it.... thats the war. Die. Die a horrible death. Don't doubt. --------------------- Looking for frentix? Mail me.
Marnix Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.10 13:59:00 - [102] Edited by: Marnix on 10/10/2006 14:00:44 Originally by: DB Preacher What was your point here? Was it simply the flame telling everyone that our members look foolish and short-sighted? Or was there actually a point to you coming onto this thread? dbp I think his point was quite clear. You state no public intentions, so you can at all times claim you achieved them, irrelevant of wether you did or not. So while you can judge yourself if you 'won', the rest of us cannot. Ofcourse i can see the point in not stating them, but it would give the unbiased bystanders a bit more to think about. EDIT: Added relevant quote coz you people post way to fast. Stay the fck away from my sig, thx.
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 14:00:00 - [103] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: DB Preacher Just because we haven't stated any objectives to random people like you who have nothing to do with the conflict doesn't mean there are strict objectives set within the BoB leadership. Yet again your posting is amusing to me. Thanks, dbp I understand perfectly that you will not wish to state your objectives. However, I find it amusing that your forum warriors seem to hint at nothing less than the destruction of ASCN. They talk about 'win' and 'lose' in absolute terms. This is an easy thing to do without clearly stated goals, and so only serves to make your forum warriors look foolish and short-sighted. We weren't the ones that invaded anywhere, ASCN just took it to mean we were going to invade them. We haven't spammed pos anywhere, we haven't contested any space. Will we? Who knows. One thing is for sure - you can't counter us, all you can be is a backseat observer who can only attack us on the forums because you lack the testicular fortitude to step up and face us in-game. More fool you.
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 14:01:00 - [104] Originally by: Marnix I think his point was quite clear. You state no public intentions, so you can at all times claim you achieved them, irrelevant of wether you did or not. So while you can judge yourself if you 'won', the rest of us cannot. Ofcourse i can see the point in not stating them, but it would give the unbiased bystanders a bit more to think about. There is no such thing as an unbiased bystander - everyone has an opinion, therefor everyone is biased in some way. As for "the rest of you" judging whether we won or not - we don't care how people judge us, the proof is who is left standing and holding the football at the end of the match. That will be us.
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 14:02:00 - [105] Edited by: DB Preacher on 10/10/2006 14:06:13 Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: DB Preacher What was your point here? Was it simply the flame telling everyone that our members look foolish and short-sighted? Or was there actually a point to you coming onto this thread? dbp I was pointing out that as you cannot measure victory if you have no stated goals, its a rather pointless statement to make. Firstly, I wasn't asking about what you posted initially. I was asking what the point of your second post was. Considering you just called our members foolish and short-sighted, you are very quick to label me a troll. Secondly, You cannot measure victory because you do not know our goals and objectives. We can measure victory because we know our goals and objectives. The only (and I quote you on this) "pointless statement" was yours attempting to tell one of the leaders of BoB that they cannot measure victory if they have stated no goals. We certainly can measure victory, it is you who cannot measure our victory but since you have not been asked to measure our victory I don't think that is a problem. If you wish to argue semantics with me then I can assure you that there will be a simple measure of victory on this point and it will not be you who is standing on the side that is singing ABBA's "The Winner Takes It All" again. Thanks, dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Marnix Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.10 14:04:00 - [106] Originally by: Louisa Torres Originally by: Marnix I think his point was quite clear. You state no public intentions, so you can at all times claim you achieved them, irrelevant of wether you did or not. So while you can judge yourself if you 'won', the rest of us cannot. Ofcourse i can see the point in not stating them, but it would give the unbiased bystanders a bit more to think about. There is no such thing as an unbiased bystander - everyone has an opinion, therefor everyone is biased in some way. As for "the rest of you" judging whether we won or not - we don't care how people judge us, the proof is who is left standing and holding the football at the end of the match. That will be us. Fine. 'Unbiased' as in 'uninvolved'. You make an interesting point though - that you do not care how we judge you. Which is fairly interesting, because then you may aswell not be posting here atall. At the end of the day, you care. If indeed you didnt give a toss what the rest of us thinks, then these posts and threads merely serve a demoralising objective. And tbh, its rather obvious that they dont. Stay the fck away from my sig, thx.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 14:05:00 - [107] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 10/10/2006 14:07:05 Originally by: Marnix I think his point was quite clear. You state no public intentions, so you can at all times claim you achieved them, irrelevant of wether you did or not. So while you can judge yourself if you 'won', the rest of us cannot. Ofcourse i can see the point in not stating them, but it would give the unbiased bystanders a bit more to think about. EDIT: Added relevant quote coz you people post way to fast. Yes, well. I'd guess that victory will manifest itself once we are through, but you will of course not have to take my word for that. On the other hand, the chances of you being informed of our objectives are rather slim. Old blog
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 14:07:00 - [108] Originally by: Marnix Which is fairly interesting, because then you may aswell not be posting here atall. At the end of the day, you care. If indeed you didnt give a toss what the rest of us thinks, then these posts and threads merely serve a demoralising objective. And tbh, its rather obvious that they dont. Not really, we post here for our own amusement and our own purposes - we don't post here to score "PR" points with the eve community, most of whom, especially in 0.0, are gutless self centered appeasement monkeys.
Silvestri FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.10 14:07:00 - [109] so who's winning....I've wanted to watch this but no time...have my own busy schedule to attend....any news?
AvanCade Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 14:07:00 - [110] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: DB Preacher What was your point here? Was it simply the flame telling everyone that our members look foolish and short-sighted? Or was there actually a point to you coming onto this thread? dbp I was responding to your alliance member who stated "we WILL beat you, we WILL be victorious". I was pointing out that as you cannot measure victory if you have no stated goals, its a rather pointless statement to make. You will kill more ships than them? Hardly an impressive goal. You will take over their space? Not possible with current game mechanics and server issues. You will take over Paragon Soul? What, while you can't even effectively police fountain. The point of this thread, DBP, is a debate on the war between yourselves and ASCN. My posts were perfectly relevant, the only troll here is the one I am bothering to reply to. Yes we will beat them and we will be victorious, if when this does not come through then you can then critise the person for saying it, not now. How do you know with the current game mechanic's its not possible to get hold of a system? Just cause there is lag, node crashes does not mean we will just give up, dedication and patience will get us what we want. When you say something is not possible, you have already lost the war. Nothing is impossible, there is always a way around. Why does it matter to you that we police fountain or not? When and if there is danger to the region we will respond, for now The Horde and Xelas are doing a grande job in defending it. Finally the war between bob and ASCN, for those of you who aint got a damn clue whats going on, both sides are having fun, thats all that matters.

Marnix Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.10 14:11:00 - [111] Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Marnix I think his point was quite clear. You state no public intentions, so you can at all times claim you achieved them, irrelevant of wether you did or not. So while you can judge yourself if you 'won', the rest of us cannot. Ofcourse i can see the point in not stating them, but it would give the unbiased bystanders a bit more to think about. EDIT: Added relevant quote coz you people post way to fast. Yes, well. I'd guess that victory will manifest itself once we are through, but you will of course not have to take my word for that. On the other hand, the chances of you being informed of our objectives is rather slim. You'll notice im not asking for them. Itd be interesting to know if they were achieved, but thats about as far as my involvement goes. As for victory being obvious, i think it will. Thing is, i dont think anyone doubts you will be victorious. But this isnt a win-lose game. You may be victorious but not kill ASCN. It will take ASCN weeks, maybe months of fleetbattles to make up for the kill:loss ratios you achieved in the first week. Thus, victory is already achieved. But as i stated above, i cannot judge wether you achieved your goals. Merely wether youre victorious. Stay the fck away from my sig, thx.
SwindonBadger 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.10.10 14:12:00 - [112] eta to titan explosion? well as a board badger siting in the office my moneys on that big shiny ship being a piece in the puzzle of lodgical wars. I meen if wanted to be ruler of eve and some dudes had one and I dint ,,,.... boom shakala is all id be thinking, im sure its not for the roids ascn killing the allince would be secondary . .. back to the paer work. bet someones finding out quality over numbers is quite big part of eve.
Theladder	Posted - 2006.10.10 14:12:00 - [113] Is this true that BOB have destoried 1 titan from ASCN?? http://ascn.eve-killboard.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=215983 rofl?
Marnix Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.10 14:13:00 - [114] Originally by: Louisa Torres Originally by: Marnix Which is fairly interesting, because then you may aswell not be posting here atall. At the end of the day, you care. If indeed you didnt give a toss what the rest of us thinks, then these posts and threads merely serve a demoralising objective. And tbh, its rather obvious that they dont. Not really, we post here for our own amusement and our own purposes - we don't post here to score "PR" points with the eve community, most of whom, especially in 0.0, are gutless self centered appeasement monkeys. Fair point. With what purpose do you think Butter Dog posts though? Im willing to bet its the same as yours. And mine, for that matter. Office jobs ftw. Stay the fck away from my sig, thx.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 14:15:00 - [115] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 10/10/2006 14:15:51 Originally by: Marnix You'll notice im not asking for them. Itd be interesting to know if they were achieved, but thats about as far as my involvement goes. As for victory being obvious, i think it will. Thing is, i dont think anyone doubts you will be victorious. But this isnt a win-lose game. You may be victorious but not kill ASCN. It will take ASCN weeks, maybe months of fleetbattles to make up for the kill:loss ratios you achieved in the first week. Thus, victory is already achieved. But as i stated above, i cannot judge wether you achieved your goals. Merely wether youre victorious. Neither do I actually . It does feel like we've achieved what we could have wanted so far. We're not in a rush to get to the end of things. I'll declare my next objective openly tho: I absolutely need to see more of those "Mccreedy files". It's frigging hilarious. Old blog
Kcel Chim Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2006.10.10 14:16:00 - [116] Originally by: Marnix Originally by: Louisa Torres Originally by: Marnix I think his point was quite clear. You state no public intentions, so you can at all times claim you achieved them, irrelevant of wether you did or not. So while you can judge yourself if you 'won', the rest of us cannot. Ofcourse i can see the point in not stating them, but it would give the unbiased bystanders a bit more to think about. There is no such thing as an unbiased bystander - everyone has an opinion, therefor everyone is biased in some way. As for "the rest of you" judging whether we won or not - we don't care how people judge us, the proof is who is left standing and holding the football at the end of the match. That will be us. Fine. 'Unbiased' as in 'uninvolved'. You make an interesting point though - that you do not care how we judge you. Which is fairly interesting, because then you may aswell not be posting here atall. At the end of the day, you care. If indeed you didnt give a toss what the rest of us thinks, then these posts and threads merely serve a demoralising objective. And tbh, its rather obvious that they dont. There is a fine difference between not careing what someone thinks and letting someone spout lies and accusations unchallenged. DbP knows as well as anyone else posting here that the majority of all readers have already made up their mind when they open a thread. The majority labels each "hostile" post Propaganda, lies, bollox and whatever else you may call it but every post of the "good guys" or allies as the truth. See the snips taken from the Ascn command mail. IF an alliance sinks low enough to lie to its members about Gm's taking sides, Exploit accusations and other dubious things to make up for ingame losses it starts to become funny. Those things are on a different level and they influence another area of the game. If 4000 ppl believe only exploiters can win or that the Gm team is biased it damages the reputation of the game not of an entity. So maybe just maybe the person who made this long bull**** post and lies to his alliance should consider what damage he does to the game and to the community at whole (no matter if ure bob, mc, ascn, imperium or celes) by balanty attempting to score brownie points on baseless accusations. People have lost before and swallowed the sour medcine and it takes a real man to stand up and admit defeat with a "good fight they were better" instead of the counterstrike mentality which lately seems to get a foothold in the circle of allianceleaders. Where every hostile victor must be a cheater and every 3rd hand information which might get modified on the way to you is a clear proof for exploit, bias and favouritism (sp?). Wake up Ascn, admit defeat in the tpar case and tidy up your closet before you damage the game. 1000 players spreading rumors to their friends can quickly make baseless accusations to a real bushfire.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.10 14:20:00 - [117] Originally by: Marnix You state no public intentions, so you can at all times claim you achieved them, irrelevant of wether you did or not. So while you can judge yourself if you 'won', the rest of us cannot. hangon a minute this is not really true..../emote rumages around in the forums..... Originally by: SirMolle Offer to corporations based in GQ2S refinery. ..... We will offer you a way out, the non-hostile way, before we lay total siege to the system. Lay down your arms, and drop the sov claims on ths system, and you will be allowed to stay. This offer will go off the table in 1 week. k.. there isnt a timeframe attached to this 'offer', however, it is quite clear that the objective stated in that post is to lay total siege to that system... I would assume that when BoB say total siege... they actually mean .. total siege... and force the inhabitants to move out. That's a pretty clear objective, there is no timeframe but it is an objective nevertheless and a pretty clear and public declaration of quantifiable intent.
Taurequis Waylander 01	Posted - 2006.10.10 14:28:00 - [118] Originally by: Theladder Is this true that BOB have destoried 1 titan from ASCN?? http://ascn.eve-killboard.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=215983 rofl? Oddly enough it should be obvious it is a fake due to the fact its a kill that happens 6 hours from now. Taur
Alasse Cuthalion TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 14:34:00 - [119] Edited by: Alasse Cuthalion on 10/10/2006 14:34:58 Originally by: Theladder Is this true that BOB have destoried 1 titan from ASCN?? http://ascn.eve-killboard.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=215983 rofl? to be fair, if we'd killed ASCN's mobile peen extension it would've been posted on our killboard too ;)
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:08:00 - [120] Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Edited by: Alasse Cuthalion on 10/10/2006 14:34:58 Originally by: Theladder Is this true that BOB have destoried 1 titan from ASCN?? http://ascn.eve-killboard.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=215983 rofl? to be fair, if we'd killed ASCN's mobile peen extension it would've been posted on our killboard too ;) tbh I'd have the link tatoo'd across my left flap, pull it over my head and run round the town screaming "aroooooooooooooooga" if we had :D

Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:08:00 - [121] Luckily we have the GMs on our side in this war, otherwise we would be crying salty tears of defeat right now... "Things were also not helped by a GM moving BoB en masse back into TPAR from TCAG just as ASCN was gaining the upper hand, then moving them back when we didn't expect it and without warning, allowing them to kill a sizeable proportion of our fleet." Eve Blacklight Style
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:10:00 - [122] Originally by: Louisa Torres tbh I'd have the link tatoo'd across my left flap, pull it over my head and run round the town screaming "aroooooooooooooooga" if we had :D Just like any normal weekend around you then? Eve Blacklight Style
Amthrianius Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:27:00 - [123] Where's that 100man forum blob i ordered?!!! ---------------
Remmington Daniels Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:27:00 - [124] Doesnt that titan die in 5 hours? I think cyvoks corpse is gonna go for billions after hes podded -----------------
Wuubaa Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:28:00 - [125] Originally by: Regma John's latest blog has let me see the light. We're losing and there's nothing I can do about it. Im already hiding in empire.
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:28:00 - [126] GM's on our side ? I thought we all were GM's and DEV's lol BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon
Dark Matter Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:30:00 - [127] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: DB Preacher What was your point here? Was it simply the flame telling everyone that our members look foolish and short-sighted? Or was there actually a point to you coming onto this thread? dbp I was responding to your alliance member who stated "we WILL beat you, we WILL be victorious". I was pointing out that as you cannot measure victory if you have no stated goals, its a rather pointless statement to make. You will kill more ships than them? Hardly an impressive goal. You will take over their space? Not possible with current game mechanics and server issues. You will take over Paragon Soul? What, while you can't even effectively police fountain. The point of this thread, DBP, is a debate on the war between yourselves and ASCN. My posts were perfectly relevant, the only troll here is the one I am bothering to reply to. Yay I'm in a Butter Dog thread
Auman Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:31:00 - [128] errr... hi.
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:31:00 - [129] Latest update... nothing really, just wanted to show sig.
Coranor Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:31:00 - [130] Blatant Siggage tbh. Oh and Hi Butter Bog --------------

Manira Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:32:00 - [131] Originally by: Amthrianius Where's that 100man forum blob i ordered?!!! killin' ASCN poses in tpar, oh w8 none left anymore
LadyScarlet Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:33:00 - [132] oh im hearing things or maybe not where is the 100 people in tpar ;/ /me blows kisses to murphy when are you coming to play :)
Andreaz Kotz Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:33:00 - [133] When i read the text on my monitor that is displayed from the interwebs i dont usually laugh, however, reading that john fellows message made me break my chair ;/.
Horatio Starkiller Minmatar TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:33:00 - [134] I didn't make it on the Titan kill, remind me to fit more guns later.
ponieus Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:33:00 - [135] i swear the dribble is just mindblowing. ----------------------------------------------
LordPhoenix Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:37:00 - [136] How can you accuse us for posting that killmail? It's on ASCN's killboard ***!
BadManEdmundo Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:40:00 - [137] like woteva
Mebrithiel Ju'wien Minmatar Blood Inquisition	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:40:00 - [138] I'm just *****ing up at those fantastic sigs! Who the hell came up with that genius?
Phoenix Pryde Caldari Infinite Improbability Inc	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:40:00 - [139] lol, great sigs TRUST Shop // Infinite Improbability Inc [3-I]
Regma Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:41:00 - [140] Remember the following troops! Originally by: John's blog So let's stop fighting amongst ourselves, let's jump in BS and Capital ships and let's show BoB the true meaning of fear when 400-500 ASCN roll into TPAR and take down EVERY single tower there and we set up 60 of our own. We can do this. BoB is beatable and you guys are better than them. --

HostageTaker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:41:00 - [141] Originally by: Xavier Cardde in the end both sides lack the guns, numbers, and node stablity for a clear victory. we shall shoot each other until we get tired of it.... thats the war. "Yeah? well, you know that's just like uh, your opinion man!" >>> EvE Online Wallpapers <<<
Fi T'Zeh Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:43:00 - [142] Sigs ? where ? .... Real men use blasters
BadManEdmundo Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:43:00 - [143] Remember this too! Originally by: John's blog So what am I saying? I'm presenting you with facts without propeganda or embelishment. I saw what the GMs did, as did Hermot (and I think Shanzem) becasue we where watching the gate.
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:44:00 - [144] All those sigs are funny but: this one is fkin hysterical - Gob [IXC] Admiral Goberius
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:48:00 - [145] Lol, nice sigs.
Sha Dar eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:49:00 - [146] Top sigs man. Whoever did them, love the humour.
Coranor Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:51:00 - [147] All plaudits for the sigs go to HostageTaker of BNC --------------
Yikes Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:52:00 - [148] Edited by: Yikes on 10/10/2006 15:52:57 Nice sigs
HostageTaker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:53:00 - [149] Originally by: Coranor All plaudits for the sigs go to HostageTaker of BNC ... and to a few BoB pilots for their ideas and suggestions. >>> EvE Online Wallpapers <<<
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:54:00 - [150] Originally by: HostageTaker Originally by: Coranor All plaudits for the sigs go to HostageTaker of BNC ... and to a few BoB pilots for their ideas and suggestions. HT 4tw <3 BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon

Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 15:58:00 - [151] Oh, here you all are...took a wehile to find you all
AvanCade Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:01:00 - [152] Sigs Yarrr!!!!
Rift Scorn Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:07:00 - [153] I'm just beginning to feel at home in TPAR- as well Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since
Ria Sotori Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:10:00 - [154] All this lovely veldspar for me to AFK mine in a badger.... ahhh the good life.... androsix > GM: can you please enforce a truce while the rest of ASCN/AXE ships can log in
Roxanna Kell BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:11:00 - [155] Originally by: AvanCade Sigs Yarrr!!!! that brings back memories dont it. Quote: "Don't touch the red button!"
Fendragun Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:11:00 - [156] im wondering what ascn have instore for us next
Evil Thug Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:12:00 - [157] awesome More please Rage and Terror - making people quit EVE.
Dr Einkeisel Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:12:00 - [158] oO
AvanCade Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:14:00 - [159] Edited by: AvanCade on 10/10/2006 16:14:56 Originally by: Roxanna Kell Originally by: AvanCade Sigs Yarrr!!!! that brings back memories dont it. No Roxanna you were just a whinner and a ***k..kthx
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:15:00 - [160] lol roxanna in BE so fitting - Gob [IXC] Admiral Goberius

Shamrock Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:19:00 - [161] YARRR!! This has been a great turkey shoot.
Low Blow Amarr Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:25:00 - [162] yep
John McCreedy Caldari Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:30:00 - [163] Status of the war according to BoB Make a Difference
hazeb Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:32:00 - [164] Originally by: John McCreedy Status of the war according to BoB how long you stay up last night thinking of that?
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:32:00 - [165] Originally by: John McCreedy Status of the war according to BoB Nice one, forum troll much ? :P Btw, seeing as your here and stuff, how on earth do you manage to bull** so much to your own members ? Do you really think they are that stupid to not know whats going on, and if so do you really treat them like 6 year olds and feed them with bull like that all the time then ? BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon**
Hast Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:32:00 - [166] well, I could post your entire blog, but I fear the tinfoil hats of certain individuals would explode if they read it... Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
Fendragun Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:34:00 - [167] i think that guy does the press breifing for the england football team now
Hectic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:35:00 - [168] ♥ Roxanna Kell, Hope you have fun in BE. I'll snuggle Jarmen for you! WELCOME BACK MGRL!
Remmington Daniels Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:35:00 - [169] Originally by: Fendragun i think that guy does the press breifing for the england football team now LMAO -----------------
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:36:00 - [170] Originally by: hazeb how long you stay up last night thinking of that? It was secret given to him by his father. And his father got it from his father, etc,etc

Bizarre TAOSP	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:38:00 - [171] Originally by: Fendragun i think that guy does the press breifing for the england football team now ------------------
Monarch Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:40:00 - [172] Originally by: John McCreedy Status of the war according to BoB Our killboard would dispute that.
DTee Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:49:00 - [173] In before the lock and clean! ASCN have put up a fight props to ascn.
Remmington Daniels Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:50:00 - [174] Originally by: Monarch Originally by: John McCreedy Status of the war according to BoB Our killboard would dispute that. Killboards arent accurate. Example we've already killed a titan -----------------
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:53:00 - [175] Originally by: Kryztal Nice one, forum troll much ? :P Now that is rich coming from you. - Gob [IXC] Admiral Goberius
BlackRain Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:54:00 - [176] We've lost the war. I guess we'll just pack our bags and go run high sec agent missions in Jita. ------------------- -
XiZ0r Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:54:00 - [177] Looks like ya missed too post this sig..
RogerWilco Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:54:00 - [178] could u plz get a gang going about now ASCN - i need my daily dose of kills plz..
OzaLoni Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:56:00 - [179] To the op, read the kbs and see for yourself.. A neutral party in this war is not likely to exist!
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:56:00 - [180] Originally by: Goberth Ludwig Originally by: Kryztal Nice one, forum troll much ? :P Now that is rich coming from you. It was a simple question :P BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon

LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 16:57:00 - [181] Edited by: LUKEC on 10/10/2006 16:57:53 Originally by: Goberth Ludwig Originally by: Kryztal Nice one, forum troll much ? :P Now that is rich coming from you. 1/10 @ goberth. Ps. greedy, you can't call targets while cloaked and ... your fleet maneuvres were most excellent. I especially like the ctrlq one.
Remmington Daniels Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 17:00:00 - [182] X TPAR -----------------
thoth foc Destructive Influence	Posted - 2006.10.10 17:04:00 - [183] Originally by: Monarch Originally by: John McCreedy Status of the war according to BoB Our killboard would dispute that. Given their recent internal porkies, I can just imagine the ASCN leaders telling their members ... "BOB just posted on the forums ASCN arent in PB!! honest!!" >: )
Zeknichov Amarr Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.10 17:06:00 - [184] Star Wars sigs FTW!
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 17:07:00 - [185] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Monarch Originally by: John McCreedy Status of the war according to BoB Our killboard would dispute that. Given their recent internal porkies, I can just imagine the ASCN leaders telling their members ... "BOB just posted on the forums ASCN arent in PB!! honest!!" lol yes ! and next their leaders will tell them that we are faking all those ASCN kills and they havnt really lost 300ish BS's in the past few days or so :P BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 17:12:00 - [186] Edited by: LUKEC on 10/10/2006 17:12:11 Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Monarch Originally by: John McGreedy We own bob. Our killboard would dispute that. Given their recent internal porkies, I can just imagine the ASCN leaders telling their members ... "BOB just posted on the forums ASCN arent in PB!! honest!!" lol yes ! and next their leaders will tell them that we are faking all those ASCN kills and they havnt really lost 300ish BS's in the past few days or so :P I belive stats are ~ 450 bs atm. Give or take 50
Roxanna Kell BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.10 17:14:00 - [187] Originally by: AvanCade Edited by: AvanCade on 10/10/2006 16:14:56 Originally by: Roxanna Kell Originally by: AvanCade Sigs Yarrr!!!! that brings back memories dont it. No Roxanna you were just a whinner and a *k..kthx ??? ok cleist, thats not what i mean by my reply, iam not sure why you slapped that back on my face like that. whatever dude, have a nica day. Originally by:** Goberth Ludwig lol roxanna in BE so fitting Wahts that got to do with anything? Hate the game not the player. Quote: "Don't touch the red button!"
Dawn Princess eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.10 17:15:00 - [188] Originally by: LUKEC usual bob chestbeating Not really interested in the contents of your post (seen it all before 100 times in these threads already) but that sig is absolutely brilliant, one of the best I have seen - 10/10
Evil Thug Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.10.10 17:21:00 - [189] Originally by: Roxanna Kell Originally by: Goberth Ludwig lol roxanna in BE so fitting Wahts that got to do with anything? Hate the game not the player. Wise choice of corp, actually Rage and Terror - making people quit EVE.
Rift Scorn Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 17:22:00 - [190] Originally by: Roxanna Kell ok cleist, thats not what i mean by my reply, iam not sure why you slapped that back on my face like that. whatever dude, have a nica day. Excuse poor Cleisty he hasn't slept much for a few days, and now's grumpy at work Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03

Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 17:22:00 - [191] Originally by: Dawn Princess Originally by: LUKEC usual bob chestbeating Not really interested in the contents of your post (seen it all before 100 times in these threads already) but that sig is absolutely brilliant, one of the best I have seen - 10/10 pffft Anyway....hold on with atacking tpar guys cause i wont be able to be there... hmm..."hold on" ????? Damn, I must be on drugs again
Zrevak Ashek The Blackwater Brigade	Posted - 2006.10.10 17:29:00 - [192] Edited by: Zrevak Ashek on 10/10/2006 17:33:29 Sounds like BOB is winning the propaganda war and inciting infighting among ASCN members Making fools out of the enemy leadership is allways a good move
Klaryssa Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 17:41:00 - [193] Originally by: Zrevak Ashek Edited by: Zrevak Ashek on 10/10/2006 17:33:29 Sounds like BOB is winning the propaganda war and inciting infighting among ASCN members Making fools out of the enemy leadership is allways a good move Honestly... he did it to himself. More to come on this Im sure ;)
AvanCade Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 17:45:00 - [194] Edited by: AvanCade on 10/10/2006 17:45:49 Originally by: Rift Scorn Originally by: Roxanna Kell ok cleist, thats not what i mean by my reply, iam not sure why you slapped that back on my face like that. whatever dude, have a nica day. Excuse poor Cleisty he hasn't slept much for a few days, and now's grumpy at work Hmm..maybe reading it over and over i have mis understood it and acted out of order, my apologises Roxanna. No i am NOT GRUMPY
JINX HSC Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 17:52:00 - [195] Originally by: Dawn Princess Originally by: LUKEC usual bob chestbeating Not really interested in the contents of your post (seen it all before 100 times in these threads already) but that sig is absolutely brilliant, one of the best I have seen - 10/10 ;) its the **** i say ;) ---------------------------------- I AM THE GOD OF HELL AND I WILL BRING YOU THE HORNS OF JERICO!
Lootcatcher	Posted - 2006.10.10 17:53:00 - [196] I dont get it, entire BoB changes its sig to rag on ASCN. One ASCN guy posts one funny and and is accused of trolling. It boggles the mind. I think you are a stain on what the real Band of Brothers stood for.
Audrea Momentum.	Posted - 2006.10.10 17:54:00 - [197] LOL at the new sigs! I loughed especially at the scum and villiny, and the Disturbance in the force! Perhaps next times siggies related to Star Trek? ------------------ Save Deimos!
BlackRain Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 17:56:00 - [198] Originally by: Lootcatcher I think you are a stain on what the real Band of Brothers stood for. Just for kicks... Care to elaborate? ------------------- -
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 17:56:00 - [199] Originally by: Lootcatcher I dont get it, entire BoB changes its sig to rag on ASCN. One ASCN guy posts one funny and and is accused of trolling. It boggles the mind. I think you are a stain on what the real Band of Brothers stood for. You are either young man or never read any forum, cause that was most used picture and "sentance" in the world
Dirtball Celtic Anarchy Black Reign Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:00:00 - [200] Originally by: Plan Neun Any "neutral" observer that can give any info on how combat progress exept for parties involved? good to see all these neutrals respecting the wishes of the original poster

00tricky Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:00:00 - [201] Originally by: Lootcatcher I dont get it, entire BoB changes its sig to rag on ASCN. One ASCN guy posts one funny and and is accused of trolling. It boggles the mind. I think you are a stain on what the real Band of Brothers stood for. Thanks for the thought, Jack Handy, next time post with your main. BoB vs ASCN = effin good times... no matter what the trolls/flaimers/fanbois/asshats/tinfoil hatters say!! non suficit orbis ASCN, do me a favor and sort overview reverse alphabetical, ffs
HostageTaker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:00:00 - [202] Originally by: Audrea LOL at the new sigs! I loughed especially at the scum and villiny, and the Disturbance in the force! Perhaps next times siggies related to Star Trek? Star Trek is for mining carebears! >>> EvE Online Wallpapers <<<
Roxanna Kell BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:03:00 - [203] Edited by: Roxanna Kell on 10/10/2006 18:04:18 Originally by: Lootcatcher I dont get it, entire BoB changes its sig to rag on ASCN. One ASCN guy posts one funny and and is accused of trolling. It boggles the mind. I think you are a stain on what the real Band of Brothers stood for. that one ASCN GUY, is a the biggest troller, double faced liar, manipulative b*****D in eve, A user who kicked members for not wanting to give him their HAC bpos so corp owns it. he Tried to steal a self built Carrier from a guy who left his corp, he blackmailed people into doing things they didnt feel confortable doing, he made someone director without agreemen resaulting in the guy quiting. and to top it all off, he posts a somewhat offensive picture completly oversized, with a silly non-funny ascn is not in period basis. GET IT? ok let me repeat in a language you can understand, and with better spelling. john mccreedy > P%k Originally by:* AvanCade Edited by: AvanCade on 10/10/2006 17:45:49 Originally by: Rift Scorn Originally by: Roxanna Kell ok cleist, thats not what i mean by my reply, iam not sure why you slapped that back on my face like that. whatever dude, have a nica day. Excuse poor Cleisty he hasn't slept much for a few days, and now's grumpy at work Hmm..maybe reading it over and over i have mis understood it and acted out of order, my apologises Roxanna. No i am NOT GRUMPY No problem. still iam a whiner, i have no ilusions about it. Quote: "Don't touch the red button!"
hangovur Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:04:00 - [204] who cares about the war.... look at these sigs. FTW :-D
Robert Dobbs Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:05:00 - [205] This so-called "propaganda campaign" is not to hurt ASCN. It's to hurt those who have lied over and over again to the eve online community (and to their alliance members) - just to save face. - Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
thoth foc Destructive Influence	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:06:00 - [206] Originally by: Dirtball Originally by: Plan Neun Any "neutral" observer that can give any info on how combat progress exept for parties involved? good to see all these neutrals respecting the wishes of the original poster Yip it's always best to let ppl that have no idea what's going on, report the news :P >: )
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:07:00 - [207] persh, weren't you wondering why everyone thinks BoB are a propaganda machine? Avert your eyes to the bottom of every single one of your alliance mates posts. BINGO! Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
reaTh Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:09:00 - [208] Edited by: reaTh on 10/10/2006 18:12:42 bob thread no butter dog ?? ______________________________________________ [b]Current RKK Ranking: (MIN13) J
thoth foc Destructive Influence	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:11:00 - [209] Originally by: welsh wizard persh, weren't you wondering why everyone thinks BoB are a propaganda machine? Avert your eyes to the bottom of every single one of your alliance mates posts. BINGO! my ">: )" too? >: )
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:12:00 - [210] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: welsh wizard persh, weren't you wondering why everyone thinks BoB are a propaganda machine? Avert your eyes to the bottom of every single one of your alliance mates posts. BINGO! my ">: )" too? EBIL propaganda face!!! Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.

hangovur Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:14:00 - [211] Originally by: welsh wizard persh, weren't you wondering why everyone thinks BoB are a propaganda machine? Avert your eyes to the bottom of every single one of your alliance mates posts. BINGO! theres quite a difference in poking fun at the people you are playing against and... lets say, making post claiming that the other side is haxing and cheating by causing node crashes and using GMs to gain an advantage.
Vailan Aurora Empire Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:15:00 - [212] Originally by: Robert Dobbs Edited by: Robert Dobbs on 10/10/2006 18:08:40 This so-called "propaganda campaign" is not to hurt ASCN. It's to hurt those who have lied over and over again to the eve online community (and to their alliance members) - just to save face. Which just happens to be the ASCN leadership. Man you're sig is freaking awesome! lol... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/chaosPhd/Sigs%20or%20Banners/Vailan-Sig.jpg [orange]Max signature size is 400x120 pixels and 24,000 bytes. Email us for questio
00tricky Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:19:00 - [213] Originally by: Dirtball Originally by: Plan Neun Any "neutral" observer that can give any info on how combat progress exept for parties involved? good to see all these neutrals respecting the wishes of the original poster Q: Can a "neutral" observer be qualified to comment on something that they have not witnessed themselves? A: No. There are no neutral observers involved in this (save the GM's, and I doubt they will comment in this thread with the details the OP is looking for). Ergo, the OP, will not be answered exactly as requested, and you get what we have here... kick ass sigs!!!! non suficit orbis ASCN, do me a favor and sort overview reverse alphabetical, ffs
End Yourself Core Domination	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:19:00 - [214] so what's that titan killmail all about? will i get to see some fancy explosion if i arrive in azn in time?!? --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
Audrea Momentum.	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:19:00 - [215] Originally by: HostageTaker Originally by: Audrea LOL at the new sigs! I loughed especially at the scum and villiny, and the Disturbance in the force! Perhaps next times siggies related to Star Trek? Star Trek is for mining carebears! "I rather die as the man I was, than live the life I just saw!" -Picard, Jean-Luck, after seeing the life of a carebear ------------------ Save Deimos!
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:21:00 - [216] Originally by: hangovur Originally by: welsh wizard persh, weren't you wondering why everyone thinks BoB are a propaganda machine? Avert your eyes to the bottom of every single one of your alliance mates posts. BINGO! theres quite a difference in poking fun at the people you are playing against and... lets say, making post claiming that the other side is haxing and cheating by causing node crashes and using GMs to gain an advantage. I see your point. Would someone from BoB care to give explanations as to why they think this information is being spread among the ASCN ranks? I'm interested in your side of the story. Why did the GM move the BoB fleet? Where have these accusations come from? You say they're baseless and go on to accuse the guy who made the post of being less than mentally able. Why should the Eve public believe you when BoB operate on the forums in such an aggressive and sometimes ridiculous (in my opinion) manner? I currently have no reason not to believe him... "Use your brain!!!" you say "BoB obviously haven't got GM's in their ranks" etc etc. So where have these baseless accusations come from? Would appreciate it greatly if someone would address these points... Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
Gabriel Karade Office linebackers Blood of the Innocents	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:23:00 - [217] I love those sigs. ---------- - Office Linebacker -
Ysabelle nKataros Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:27:00 - [218] Edited by: Ysabelle nKataros on 10/10/2006 18:27:10 ASCN gather evidence in their "BoB has node crash hax!" case BoB: When we have fleet battles, our killboard crashes
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:39:00 - [219] Edited by: DB Preacher on 10/10/2006 18:40:24 Originally by: welsh wizard Would someone from BoB care to give explanations as to why they think this information is being spread among the ASCN ranks? I'm interested in your side of the story. (lukec answered the rest above) Well, I dunno Welsh if you were around during the PA then FA wars that we fought but quite simply there seems to be two types of leader in Eve. There are the guys like the BoB CEO's, Darth, ShinRa, Eddz, etc etc who lead their corps from the front. Then there are the guys like Halseth, Tornsoul, remedial, Cyvok etc who led from the back. One type of leader will give thier members free will to speak when they want because they know that whatever they say it can be backed up ingame. The other type of leader needs to ban their members from talking for fear of pulling the rest of Eve onto their heads. This next point is the crunch of the matter however. One of those leaders only needs to say "gg" to their fighters every so often. The other type needs to wax lyrically with false progaganda in a vain effort to make his troops go out to the slaughter knowing full well that they will get slaughtered. They will try anything to keep the alliance together long enough to see off the enemy but invariably will fail because the alliance members simply do not see them enough on the field leading fleets and bringing victories where it matters. You can lie to a member of an alliance for as long as you want but the beauty about the EvE-O forums, fraps, killboards etc is that they can always go find out for themselves the truth. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:39:00 - [220] Edited by: LUKEC on 10/10/2006 18:46:37 Originally by: welsh wizard Would someone from BoB care to give explanations as to why they think this information is being spread among the ASCN ranks? I'm interested in your side of the story. Will try to be constructive and objective. Quote: Why did the GM move the BoB fleet? Where have these accusations come from? You say they're baseless and go on to accuse the guy who made the post of being less than mentally able. No GM moved any fleet. I doubt any bob ship was move at all. After node dies, strange things kick in, sometimes rollback kicks in, sometime doesn't. I remember in k-9 when we crashed node for the first time, i woke up on deep safespot with different ammo and full hp. After we jumped into TCAG on sunday (? don't remember), i wasted like 10 minutes to log in and warped straight on gate. But,saying that GM moved our ships is simply lie. As far as i understood mcGreedy's post/mail/utter crap, he claims bob people were moved from tcag into tpar on first day after pos spam, which is wrong. We had support going from tcag -> vy0 -> mgo -> tpar, killed bubbles then we did some movement tcag<-> mgo to have them warp around from gate to gate, then we finally jumped in at MGO gate. We had gang of something like 15-25, local was around 100 at that time. However don't forget most people brought various alts from delve and logged mains on once TPAR was secure. Don't blame us about lag,due to logging mains on/ alts off, yet, lag kicked in later. This was all before dt. Quote: Why should the Eve public believe you when BoB operate on the forums in such an aggressive and sometimes ridiculous (in my opinion) manner? I currently have no reason not to believe him... I don't belive you are in fountain either tbh. But look at last 2 paragraphs of mcGreedy's post, stating crap about not beeing able to crash node when GM's were around. In same paragraph he explains that same ebil GMs h4xed their pos... But tell me what sane person wants to crash node when he has dreads at deathstar(mostly offline, tyvm) Quote: "Use your brain!!!" you say "BoB obviously haven't got GM's in their ranks" etc etc. So where have these baseless accusations come from? No idea, i don't know any GM, not in bob nor otherwise. And even if we would have GM inside bob, do you really think he would risk his RL job for some stupid pos or whatever? Use your brains please, tell us what would reasonable person do? ps. GM Guard was around as well, he has some nice history with 5. and ATUK and poses. (nothing bad/wrong about him) Quote: Would appreciate it greatly if someone would address these points... Hope it helps.

Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:46:00 - [221] Originally by: hangovur Originally by: welsh wizard persh, weren't you wondering why everyone thinks BoB are a propaganda machine? Avert your eyes to the bottom of every single one of your alliance mates posts. BINGO! theres quite a difference in poking fun at the people you are playing against and... lets say, making post claiming that the other side is haxing and cheating by causing node crashes and using GMs to gain an advantage. Eh... most of BoB's propaganda has been based on claiming that ASCN would use lag tactics. In fact Molle eluded to it in the start of his recent thread, saying that the node would crash when ever he saw an ASCN pod and gave no evidence for it whatsoever. Do you guys read your own threads or just spam them? Do people have 2 minute memories on this forum or what? ----------------- Victory or death! ... knitting is also an option.
Robert Dobbs Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:51:00 - [222] Originally by: Plim In fact Molle eluded to it in the start of his recent thread, saying that the node would crash when ever he saw an ASCN pod and gave no evidence for it whatsoever. Do you guys read your own threads or just spam them? You do need a certain amount of intelligence in order to understand these words, i'm afraid. He said "individual node crashes", insinuating that these guys log off on contact. Which they do. - Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:52:00 - [223] Originally by: Plim Originally by: hangovur Originally by: welsh wizard persh, weren't you wondering why everyone thinks BoB are a propaganda machine? Avert your eyes to the bottom of every single one of your alliance mates posts. BINGO! theres quite a difference in poking fun at the people you are playing against and... lets say, making post claiming that the other side is haxing and cheating by causing node crashes and using GMs to gain an advantage. Eh... most of BoB's propaganda has been based on claiming that ASCN would use lag tactics. In fact Molle eluded to it in the start of his recent thread, saying that the node would crash when ever he saw an ASCN pod and gave no evidence for it whatsoever. Do you guys read your own threads or just spam them? Do people have 2 minute memories on this forum or what? You really don't get it, do you. Let me explain it to you slow and in simple words: they logoff to save their pods. I hope you understand that it doesn't matter whether in dictor bubble or whatever, pod WILL warp. Probing it solves matter a little, but we are short on probes already. Refer to some sig for further info.
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:53:00 - [224] Originally by: Plim In fact Molle eluded to it in the start of his recent thread, saying that the node would crash when ever he saw an ASCN pod and gave no evidence for it whatsoever. Ok Plim every time an ASCN pilot logs off to save his pod we'll fraps it just for you. Molle's subtle dig about them repeatedly logging off obviously zoomed right over the top of your head there. Eve Blacklight Style
LadyScarlet Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:54:00 - [225] Originally by: Plim Originally by: hangovur Originally by: welsh wizard persh, weren't you wondering why everyone thinks BoB are a propaganda machine? Avert your eyes to the bottom of every single one of your alliance mates posts. BINGO! theres quite a difference in poking fun at the people you are playing against and... lets say, making post claiming that the other side is haxing and cheating by causing node crashes and using GMs to gain an advantage. Eh... most of BoB's propaganda has been based on claiming that ASCN would use lag tactics. In fact Molle eluded to it in the start of his recent thread, saying that the node would crash when ever he saw an ASCN pod and gave no evidence for it whatsoever. Do you guys read your own threads or just spam them? Do people have 2 minute memories on this forum or what? BOB didnt claime anything that cyvok didnt say himself, if you missed the thread where he said it maye you should ask for a copy and read it.
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:58:00 - [226] No, what Cyvok said was open to interpretation and you used it for propaganda. And apparently Molle's statements were open to interpretation too so chill the **** out kids. And he didn't provide any evidence, so it is still a vacuous statement. Fraps it if you want, IÆm not saying it doesnÆt happen. See why I like winding you guys up? Irate or what ----------------- Victory or death! ... knitting is also an option.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:58:00 - [227] Originally by: Plim Originally by: hangovur Originally by: welsh wizard persh, weren't you wondering why everyone thinks BoB are a propaganda machine? Avert your eyes to the bottom of every single one of your alliance mates posts. BINGO! theres quite a difference in poking fun at the people you are playing against and... lets say, making post claiming that the other side is haxing and cheating by causing node crashes and using GMs to gain an advantage. Eh... most of BoB's propaganda has been based on claiming that ASCN would use lag tactics. In fact Molle eluded to it in the start of his recent thread, saying that the node would crash when ever he saw an ASCN pod and gave no evidence for it whatsoever. Do you guys read your own threads or just spam them? Do people have 2 minute memories on this forum or what? I belaive that those are references to CYVOK's famous internal forum post on strategy versus BoB where he announced that rather then lose his outposts he'd have his blob crash the node repeatedly till we give up or lost all our dreads attemtping to kill his pos. You see, stating the intention (in quite serious words actually, I'm not sure if you've actually seen the post we're referring to ?) seriously, in command communications to your entire alliance, is rather different from using quotes from such communications to poke fun at your opponent. In all honesty, the post/blog made by John Mccreedy is seriously delusional. The seriousness with which he communicates his allegations internally, to his alliance, speaks for itself. It shows that the allegations and excuses he makes for our better performance around TPAR are actually meant seriously, not in jest. You can find direct quotes from his post/blog earlier in this thread. You tell me where we ever made such ridiculous allegations against ASCN ? Exactly, nowhere. we only quoted Cyvok in jest, alluding to his words about abusing lag as part of his defense strategy. Old blog
DeadProphet Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 18:59:00 - [228] dunno about you guys, i'm having a farking good time (and a good laugh at mr mcreedy's expense)
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:01:00 - [229] Edited by: welsh wizard on 10/10/2006 19:03:19 Originally by: LUKEC Originally by: Plim Originally by: hangovur Originally by: welsh wizard persh, weren't you wondering why everyone thinks BoB are a propaganda machine? Avert your eyes to the bottom of every single one of your alliance mates posts. BINGO! theres quite a difference in poking fun at the people you are playing against and... lets say, making post claiming that the other side is haxing and cheating by causing node crashes and using GMs to gain an advantage. Eh... most of BoB's propaganda has been based on claiming that ASCN would use lag tactics. In fact Molle eluded to it in the start of his recent thread, saying that the node would crash when ever he saw an ASCN pod and gave no evidence for it whatsoever. Do you guys read your own threads or just spam them? Do people have 2 minute memories on this forum or what? You really don't get it, do you. Let me explain it to you slow and in simple words: they logoff to save their pods. I hope you understand that it doesn't matter whether in dictor bubble or whatever, pod WILL warp. Probing it solves matter a little, but we are short on probes already. Refer to some sig for further info. We're quite aware of that thank you. About 50% of our targets in do it everytime they lose a ship. Lost count of the number of pods we've nailed at a safespot because they log off at the gate once they've lost their ships. People who log to save their ships and/or pods must be punished. Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:03:00 - [230] Edited by: Darcuese on 10/10/2006 19:03:45 Originally by: Robert Dobbs Originally by: Plim In fact Molle eluded to it in the start of his recent thread, saying that the node would crash when ever he saw an ASCN pod and gave no evidence for it whatsoever. Do you guys read your own threads or just spam them? You do need a certain amount of intelligence in order to understand these words, i'm afraid. He said "individual node crashes", insinuating that these guys log off on contact. Which they do. . Why dont you Celestetris guys join ASCN and fight the right couse against haxors?

welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:06:00 - [231] Edited by: welsh wizard on 10/10/2006 19:07:14 Originally by: Darcuese Edited by: Darcuese on 10/10/2006 19:03:45 Originally by: Robert Dobbs Originally by: Plim In fact Molle eluded to it in the start of his recent thread, saying that the node would crash when ever he saw an ASCN pod and gave no evidence for it whatsoever. Do you guys read your own threads or just spam them? You do need a certain amount of intelligence in order to understand these words, i'm afraid. He said "individual node crashes", insinuating that these guys log off on contact. Which they do. . Why dont you Celestetris guys join ASCN and fight the right couse against haxors? I personally don't believe you use any 'hacks' (other than the cans outside the station trick) or harbour any GM's or dev's. We shoot you because you claim to be the best and because you're insanely vocal in-game and on these forums. In fact if it wasn't for your old corp I doubt neither I or Plim would be posting here. Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:09:00 - [232] Yes Rod Blaine, I have read what Cyvok wrote and I think BoB are intentionally misinterpreting what he said. I don't think he was implying that he would crash the node on purpose, he was saying that he wouldn't allow CCP's hardware failings stop him from attempting to protect his space. Thanks for providing a well written and non-abusive post by the way. If BoB's other members could be adult more often, I might even start responding in a similar way myself (unfortunately they can't). ----------------- Victory or death! ... knitting is also an option.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:10:00 - [233] Originally by: Darcuese Why dont you Celestetris guys join ASCN and fight the right couse against haxors? They're too busy renting out Fountain while you're away
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:13:00 - [234] Edited by: Butter Dog on 10/10/2006 19:14:16 Originally by: Plim Yes Rod Blaine, I have read what Cyvok wrote and I think BoB are intentionally misinterpreting what he said. I don't think he was implying that he would crash the node on purpose, he was saying that he wouldn't allow CCP's hardware failings stop him from attempting to protect his space. This is really the crucial issue. If deploying a large fleet to defend an outpost crashes the node, then so be it. ASCN have done nothing wrong. Its not an exploit to defend a POS with the largest fleet possible, and if the servers were up to the 'challenge' there would be no node crash. BoB can hardly blame ASCN for Tranquilities instabilities. Or are BoB suggesting that by brining large fleets to defend a POS that ASCN are somehow exploiting? Doesn't add up, I'm afraid.
Astasia Orian Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:13:00 - [235] Quote: I think you are a stain on what the real Band of Brothers stood for. Aah an oldie but goodie. Henry V stood for going round smacking people about because he was the boss and because he could. That's us. We happy few.
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:14:00 - [236] Edited by: Darcuese on 10/10/2006 19:17:49 Originally by: Plim Thanks for providing a well written and non-abusive post by the way. If BoB's other members could be adult more often, I might even start responding in a similar way myself (unfortunately they can't). There you go again..making me shame Hint...you think you know what we talk about, but you dont ..and, do step infront of mirror next time to post soemthing like this, sou you could see its Plim standing infront of you...adult Originally by:* Butter Dog Originally by: Darcuese Why dont you Celestetris guys join ASCN and fight the right couse against haxors? They're too busy renting out Fountain while you're away OH, ITS ALIVE You still didnt make your move about becoming new EVE mesiah?*
HordeZla Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:15:00 - [237] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Darcuese Why dont you Celestetris guys join ASCN and fight the right couse against haxors? They're too busy renting out Fountain while you're away Rolling rollling rolling, keep them wagons rolling along.....All we need now is a Band for them there wagons and its complete.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:26:00 - [238] Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 10/10/2006 19:14:16 Originally by: Plim Yes Rod Blaine, I have read what Cyvok wrote and I think BoB are intentionally misinterpreting what he said. I don't think he was implying that he would crash the node on purpose, he was saying that he wouldn't allow CCP's hardware failings stop him from attempting to protect his space. This is really the crucial issue. If deploying a large fleet to defend an outpost crashes the node, then so be it. ASCN have done nothing wrong. Its not an exploit to defend a POS with the largest fleet possible, and if the servers were up to the 'challenge' there would be no node crash. BoB can hardly blame ASCN for Tranquilities instabilities. Or are BoB suggesting that by brining large fleets to defend a POS that ASCN are somehow exploiting? Doesn't add up, I'm afraid. We're not accusing, we are making fun of him. If you find someone accusing Cyvok of that as seriously and in as delusional terms as Mr Mccreedy has used in his recent 'state of the union', make sure to call me. Old blog
Cupdeez Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:28:00 - [239] BOB has many GM's in the ranks. BOB your players logoff to save pods too. BOB your players copy bookmarks to lagg the node when fighting. You say they all do it to you, but you do the samething if not more right back.
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:28:00 - [240] Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 10/10/2006 19:14:16 Originally by: Plim Yes Rod Blaine, I have read what Cyvok wrote and I think BoB are intentionally misinterpreting what he said. I don't think he was implying that he would crash the node on purpose, he was saying that he wouldn't allow CCP's hardware failings stop him from attempting to protect his space. This is really the crucial issue. If deploying a large fleet to defend an outpost crashes the node, then so be it. ASCN have done nothing wrong. Its not an exploit to defend a POS with the largest fleet possible, and if the servers were up to the 'challenge' there would be no node crash. BoB can hardly blame ASCN for Tranquilities instabilities. Or are BoB suggesting that by brining large fleets to defend a POS that ASCN are somehow exploiting? Doesn't add up, I'm afraid. This is exactly what I mean. How is it BoB seem to have interpreted the same information in a completely different way I wonder? And Darcuese, as I have previously explained elsewhere my over the top antagonism towards BoB is a joke, I have been winding you up. I was mimicking the angry kid attitude that some BoB members have (not all) to see how you would react. I'm jacking in it in now though because it has started to get old. If BoB had given people some level of respect you would never had found a single post like that from me ever. ----------------- Victory or death! ... knitting is also an option.

Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:30:00 - [241] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 10/10/2006 19:32:51 Originally by: Cupdeez BOB has many GM's in the ranks. BOB your players logoff to save pods too. BOB your players copy bookmarks to lagg the node when fighting. You say they all do it to you, but you do the samething if not more right back. Oh god, did Xirt get cloned or what ? We dont sploit period Yes, that includes abuse of GM powers (as if any would abuse their powers in the first place) and lagsploitaging. We do neither, none, nada, capiche ? As for logging off to save pods, I can't say since I can't follow every BoB pilot around to fraps him 23/7. And anyway, how the **** would you know in the first place. IMP hasn't actually fought us since what ? 2004 ? Old blog
hangovur Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:44:00 - [242] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Darcuese Why dont you Celestetris guys join ASCN and fight the right couse against haxors? They're too busy renting out Fountain while you're away i prefer to think of it as stocking the pond. :-D
Tutelary Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:45:00 - [243] Sigh, all these topics ever do is give ppl the oppurtunity to moan and cry :( [IMG}http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/4161/disturbancesigqy3.jpg[/IMG]
Reite Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 20:06:00 - [244] Originally by: Cupdeez BOB has many GM's in the ranks. BOB your players logoff to save pods too. BOB your players copy bookmarks to lagg the node when fighting. You say they all do it to you, but you do the samething if not more right back. Proof or stfu?
Naytaliak	Posted - 2006.10.10 20:17:00 - [245] Edited by: Naytaliak on 10/10/2006 20:17:53 please drop more loot like this BoB, thanks Linkage
Yeehawme	Posted - 2006.10.10 20:23:00 - [246] Just checking the Bob kb. 8 BoB battleship losses for only one ASCN loss in 1930 TCAG engagement?? Nice job ASCN.
0Virtu0 Amarr Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 20:26:00 - [247] After reading McCreedy's blog today I have decided that we have failed, I am now running level 4 missions in Lonetrek region. Doom.
Dr Einkeisel Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 20:28:00 - [248] Aye, the GMS cloaked ASCN's fleet and moved them ontop of us and we all died. Jokes a side well played ASCN for actually winning a battle. Still we are 3-1 up on the days battleship kills though
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 20:29:00 - [249] Originally by: Yeehawme Just checking the Bob kb. 8 BoB battleship losses for only one ASCN loss in 1930 TCAG engagement?? Nice job ASCN. Yup they did well. Can't win em all Eve Blacklight Style
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 20:31:00 - [250] Edited by: Darcuese on 10/10/2006 20:31:33 Nice to see some ASCn faces in thread. This loss was definatly worth it Ah, yes,,,not to mention posting this sig again

Dr Einkeisel Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 20:32:00 - [251] was your fault anyhow blacklight, I HERE BY DEMOTE YOU FROM FLEET COMMANDER.
maria stallion Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 20:35:00 - [252] Originally by: Yeehawme Just checking the Bob kb. 8 BoB battleship losses for only one ASCN loss in 1930 TCAG engagement?? Nice job ASCN. yep they won that fight from the looks of it. Nice job ASCN. btw people who acuse bob of logging have no idea, every ASCN logs off as soon as they get shot to save there pods. I haven't seen a ASCN that didn't do it. We always try to get a fight even outnumbered, we don't try to blob to server and espacially not to create a node crash, we all love the game and we have been playing it very long. We don't need node crashes to win cause we don't care if we win, we just want funs fights with a challange not some pure slaughter. So it's not so bad if we lose fights it keeps us on our toes.
Jackkal Order of Melekel	Posted - 2006.10.10 21:07:00 - [253] Edited by: Jackkal on 10/10/2006 21:10:10 i just noticed on the bob boards that they claim they will never work with d2d or those guys yet they did team up to kill a axe guy. Also seems to be large d2d gang in ascn axe space now helping attack ascn/axe
NOObbody Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.10.10 21:13:00 - [254] Originally by: Jackkal Edited by: Jackkal on 10/10/2006 21:10:10 i just noticed on the bob boards that they claim they will never work with d2d or those guys yet they did team up to kill a axe guy. Also seems to be large d2d gang in ascn axe space now helping attack ascn/axe Lol, the conspiracy has been revealed We have everyone on KOS in the south and would have engaged a BOB gang too.
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 21:14:00 - [255] OMG , GMS moved our fleet? Then why the hell i was stuck up 4 tiems in a row in the login queue biting my nails off "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
Robet Katrix Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.10.10 21:14:00 - [256] gotta admit i love the sigs. don't suppose there is a page with ALL of them together somewhere?
hitech redneck Digital Mind Crimes	Posted - 2006.10.10 21:18:00 - [257] Originally by: NOObbody Originally by: Jackkal Edited by: Jackkal on 10/10/2006 21:10:10 i just noticed on the bob boards that they claim they will never work with d2d or those guys yet they did team up to kill a axe guy. Also seems to be large d2d gang in ascn axe space now helping attack ascn/axe Lol, the conspiracy has been revealed We have everyone on KOS in the south and would have engaged a BOB gang too. Can you explain how ricarda m and the'undertaker just happen to be on the same kill of axe member chedburn
DeadProphet Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 21:25:00 - [258] Originally by: Dr Einkeisel was your fault anyhow blacklight, I HERE BY DEMOTE YOU FROM FLEET COMMANDER. lmao see sig :D
JINX HSC Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 21:28:00 - [259] Edited by: JINX HSC on 10/10/2006 21:30:09 Originally by: Cupdeez BOB has many GM's in the ranks. BOB your players logoff to save pods too. BOB your players copy bookmarks to lagg the node when fighting. You say they all do it to you, but you do the samething if not more right back. KLADDKAKA!!![/ ---------------------------------- I AM THE GOD OF HELL AND I WILL BRING YOU THE HORNS OF JERICO!
Auman Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 21:29:00 - [260] Originally by: hitech redneck Originally by: NOObbody Originally by: Jackkal Edited by: Jackkal on 10/10/2006 21:10:10 i just noticed on the bob boards that they claim they will never work with d2d or those guys yet they did team up to kill a axe guy. Also seems to be large d2d gang in ascn axe space now helping attack ascn/axe Lol, the conspiracy has been revealed We have everyone on KOS in the south and would have engaged a BOB gang too. Can you explain how ricarda m and the'undertaker just happen to be on the same kill of axe member chedburn I'm taking a guess here but I think they were shooting him at the same time... Give it a few weeks and if D2 stay in the area you will see plenty of BoB and D2 killing each other.

Durethia Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 21:35:00 - [261] Edited by: Durethia on 10/10/2006 21:35:24 Good job on the ~1930 fight ASCN. Unfortunately, I'm at work! :( A prince ought to have no other aim or thought, nor select anything else for his study, than war and its rules and discipline... --Nicolo Machiavelli (1505 AD)
thoth foc Destructive Influence	Posted - 2006.10.10 21:39:00 - [262] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Yeehawme Just checking the Bob kb. 8 BoB battleship losses for only one ASCN loss in 1930 TCAG engagement?? Nice job ASCN. Yup they did well. Can't win em all the John Mccreedy translation: OMGHAX..SPLOITS...GMS..WEWONTHEMORALVICTORY..BOBISEVIL >: )
JINX HSC Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 21:43:00 - [263] Originally by: Auman Originally by: hitech redneck Originally by: NOObbody Originally by: Jackkal Edited by: Jackkal on 10/10/2006 21:10:10 i just noticed on the bob boards that they claim they will never work with d2d or those guys yet they did team up to kill a axe guy. Also seems to be large d2d gang in ascn axe space now helping attack ascn/axe Lol, the conspiracy has been revealed We have everyone on KOS in the south and would have engaged a BOB gang too. Can you explain how ricarda m and the'undertaker just happen to be on the same kill of axe member chedburn I'm taking a guess here but I think they were shooting him at the same time... Give it a few weeks and if D2 stay in the area you will see plenty of BoB and D2 killing each other. CE and ASW pwns.. me like there leadership alot .. among the best in EVE ever. ---------------------------------- I AM THE GOD OF HELL AND I WILL BRING YOU THE HORNS OF JERICO!
Tam Chi Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:03:00 - [264] Edited by: Tam Chi on 10/10/2006 22:04:37 Lag is so bad ive been in 3 fleet battles today and activated 1 tach once. and it was a wrecking ;) I heart our new sigs - bringing you the best in ownage since 1337
Darko1107 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:04:00 - [265] Hows the Seiging of POS in GQ2 going? ------------------ Sig removed, please keep it under the 24,000 byte limit, if you have any questions please email [email protected] - Xorus
Roxanna Kell BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:18:00 - [266] I got nothing against any side of the conflict, apart from john mccreedy for being a clown. But this is getting worst than a Retirment home. and there is too much deja vu posts going on. common words: Propaganda, smack, hackers, list goes on. Laaaaaaaaggggg laaaaaaaGGGGG LAaaaagggg. battle is over were are you guys? Jita sir. Quote: "Don't touch the red button!"
WolfGang H Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:26:00 - [267] Lots of fun so far , Lets hope it continues!
Remmington Daniels Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:29:00 - [268] vous la vous avec moi? Rox Nice to see you buddy shame about the corp your in. As for earlier GG ASCN you won a fight congrats. and GG me for getting out of the fight with 5% structure. <3 Maledictions -----------------
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:32:00 - [269] Edited by: Kryztal on 10/10/2006 22:32:21 Originally by: JINX HSC Originally by: Auman Originally by: hitech redneck Originally by: NOObbody Originally by: Jackkal Edited by: Jackkal on 10/10/2006 21:10:10 i just noticed on the bob boards that they claim they will never work with d2d or those guys yet they did team up to kill a axe guy. Also seems to be large d2d gang in ascn axe space now helping attack ascn/axe Lol, the conspiracy has been revealed We have everyone on KOS in the south and would have engaged a BOB gang too. Can you explain how ricarda m and the'undertaker just happen to be on the same kill of axe member chedburn I'm taking a guess here but I think they were shooting him at the same time... Give it a few weeks and if D2 stay in the area you will see plenty of BoB and D2 killing each other. CE and ASW pwns.. me like there leadership alot .. among the best in EVE ever. Aye I'll agree with that, CE & ASW <3 BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon
Romulus Maximus Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:36:00 - [270] Originally by: welsh wizard Would someone from BoB care to give explanations as to why they think this information is being spread among the ASCN ranks? I'm interested in your side of the story. Why did the GM move the BoB fleet? Where have these accusations come from? You say they're baseless and go on to accuse the guy who made the post of being less than mentally able. Why should the Eve public believe you when BoB have in the past operated in a completely over the top and extremely aggressive manner on these forums? I currently have no reason not to believe him... "Use your brain!!!" you say "BoB obviously haven't got GM's in their ranks" etc etc. So where have these baseless accusations come from? Would appreciate it greatly if someone would address these points... Johns blog stems from the need to try and motivate his troops. Some leaders lie/bend the facts etc,to try and make thier efforts look better than they really are. Whether he actually believes what he writes, is the fine line seperating a mis guiding leader, and a nutjob! As for the endless GM/Dev/Bobsploiters debate.Ppl feel the need to justify why they lose. They cant possibly be worse players,have worse disclipline.Worse skills,worse tactics, worse setups. The other side must be cheating,surely thats the only feasable explanation. In all my time in BOB,ive never seen anyone h4x nodes,/heal0 etc. Its not unreasonable to assume that most major alliances contain GMS/Devs/ISD or whatever.But would they really jepordise thier jobs etc,to enable them win a battle?I know i cetainly wouldnt if i was in that position. I mean,do ppl really believe, that an entire alliance, or even just the current gang,would really be able to crash a node, and noone would have any issues with it etc.We all experiance the same lag, crashes etc as everyone else.We have no sekrit controls over logins,lag,nodes,etc etc. Current RKK Ranking: ((AMM13) Admiral - 800 kills

Don ZOLA Caldari TunDraGon	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:39:00 - [271] as i wrote in another thread bout gm issue : numerous times BOB (and some other alliances i guess) were blamed for having GMS, DEVS, ISD in their ranks. ofc not blamed just for having them but accuses r always that those ppl abuse their powers for alliance causes. imho ppl who work for ccp, no matter r they paid or volunteers shouldnt be able to join alliances and affect other ppls playing by abusing their powers. personally if i ever found that for example gm in corp A helped corp A to win a fight against my corp i would sue ccp... too much ppl is complaining on those things so i think best would be to make some collective petition to get such ppl (with normal and "power" accs) out of alliances. it would be hard and prolly some would try to remain on such positions and in their alliances but then simply find new ppl for such jobs. im pretty sure with such a big number of players nowadays, u can find plenty of volunteers to do the job properly TDG Recruitment
Drakma Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:49:00 - [272] Originally by: Romulus Maximus SirMolle's posts stem from the need to try and motivate his troops. Some leaders lie/bend the facts etc,to try and make thier efforts look better than they really are. Whether he actually believes what he writes, is the fine line seperating a mis guiding leader, and a nutjob! There you go, fixed it for you.
Romulus Maximus Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:50:00 - [273] Don..i dont think making any accounts of gms etc unable to join alliances is right. And no..im not a GM!Id imagine any abuse of power is quite easily traceable.And for sure, the mentality of BOB, we would not want to win by cheating. Id rather lose. Current RKK Ranking: ((AMM13) Admiral - 800 kills
Romulus Maximus Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:51:00 - [274] Originally by: Drakma Originally by: Romulus Maximus SirMolle's posts stem from the need to try and motivate his troops. Some leaders lie/bend the facts etc,to try and make thier efforts look better than they really are. Whether he actually believes what he writes, is the fine line seperating a mis guiding leader, and a nutjob! There you go, fixed it for you. Wow, did you think that up all by your self ? Grats Current RKK Ranking: ((AMM13) Admiral - 800 kills
Drakma Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:56:00 - [275] Originally by: Romulus Maximus Originally by: Drakma Originally by: Romulus Maximus SirMolle's posts stem from the need to try and motivate his troops. Some leaders lie/bend the facts etc,to try and make thier efforts look better than they really are. Whether he actually believes what he writes, is the fine line seperating a mis guiding leader, and a nutjob! There you go, fixed it for you. Wow, did you think that up all by your self ? Grats Nope, I learned from BoB
Scoundrelus Unseen Jihad	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:56:00 - [276] Originally by: Reite Originally by: Cupdeez BOB has many GM's in the ranks. BOB your players logoff to save pods too. BOB your players copy bookmarks to lagg the node when fighting. You say they all do it to you, but you do the samething if not more right back. Proof or stfu? Actually I can PROVE it. The proof is Censored -CCP and furthermore Censored -CCP has admitted to being a GM on your alliance. On top of that I have a fraps of you guys Censored -CCP. =============================================== We are Watching You.
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:56:00 - [277] Originally by: Drakma Originally by: Romulus Maximus SirMolle's posts stem from the need to try and motivate his troops. Some leaders lie/bend the facts etc,to try and make thier efforts look better than they really are. Whether he actually believes what he writes, is the fine line seperating a mis guiding leader, and a nutjob! There you go, fixed it for you. You dont really get that 400+ BS kills is enough motivation for our blood thirsty troops right ? lol Molles "motivation" speech after the weekend was a pat on the back for a job well done, one simple evemail that ill even send to you if you want to see how a real leaders treat their members. No BoB CEO has ever treated anyone of us with anything but respect and for that they only get the members respect back. We save the propoganda for eve-o our members are smart enough to see through bull** like the blogs put infront of ASCN members. If anyone of your members believes youve hit a nerve with us or that your hurting us because your keeping the fight in our space ... think twice we are more then happy to entertain ourselves close to home, Its a first ill admit and im quite impressed that ASCN brought it to us. But trust me when i say that we are all happy and getting more and more motivated. ASCN may be a rich alliance ... but so are we and we can match anything you got. BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon**
Romulus Maximus Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:58:00 - [278] Originally by: Drakma Nope, I learned from BoB Nothing to be ashamed of there mate As fun as this isnt, im off to bed. o/ Oh, and what Kryztal said ^^^^ Current RKK Ranking: ((AMM13) Admiral - 800 kills
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 23:02:00 - [279] Originally by: Scoundrelus Originally by: Reite Originally by: Cupdeez BOB has many GM's in the ranks. BOB your players logoff to save pods too. BOB your players copy bookmarks to lagg the node when fighting. You say they all do it to you, but you do the samething if not more right back. Proof or stfu? Actually I can PROVE it. The proof is Censored -CCP and furthermore Censored -CCP has admitted to being a GM on your alliance. On top of that I have a fraps of you guys Censored -CCP. BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon
Don ZOLA Caldari TunDraGon	Posted - 2006.10.10 23:07:00 - [280] Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Don ZOLA as i wrote in another thread bout gm issue : numerous times BOB (and some other alliances i guess) were blamed for having GMS, DEVS, ISD in their ranks. ofc not blamed just for having them but accuses r always that those ppl abuse their powers for alliance causes. imho ppl who work for ccp, no matter r they paid or volunteers shouldnt be able to join alliances and affect other ppls playing by abusing their powers. personally if i ever found that for example gm in corp A helped corp A to win a fight against my corp i would sue ccp... too much ppl is complaining on those things so i think best would be to make some collective petition to get such ppl (with normal and "power" accs) out of alliances. it would be hard and prolly some would try to remain on such positions and in their alliances but then simply find new ppl for such jobs. im pretty sure with such a big number of players nowadays, u can find plenty of volunteers to do the job properly The fact of the matter is there is no proof that a GM/Dev is abusing his power and if anyone has that proof i would urge them to contact ccp. Ive been in BoB for awhile and i can honestly say ive never seen it and ive never been slipped any info on anything from a GM/Dev. So proof before accusation please cos i have absolutly no problem with GM/DEV's playing in other alliances then BoB. i didnt accuse ur guys or anyone elses that they abuse powers, simply cuz i dont have any proofs for that. i just say ppl acccuse them. i can be or not be suspicious bout something but i aint gonna "attack" anyone without proofs. just said that when plenty of ppl talk bout it, it aint good for ccp if u know what i mean. so plz read carefuly before "attacking" me. as i said i would kick them all from all alliances so ppl dont have to think bout that :)

Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 23:10:00 - [281] Originally by: Don ZOLA Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Don ZOLA as i wrote in another thread bout gm issue : numerous times BOB (and some other alliances i guess) were blamed for having GMS, DEVS, ISD in their ranks. ofc not blamed just for having them but accuses r always that those ppl abuse their powers for alliance causes. imho ppl who work for ccp, no matter r they paid or volunteers shouldnt be able to join alliances and affect other ppls playing by abusing their powers. personally if i ever found that for example gm in corp A helped corp A to win a fight against my corp i would sue ccp... too much ppl is complaining on those things so i think best would be to make some collective petition to get such ppl (with normal and "power" accs) out of alliances. it would be hard and prolly some would try to remain on such positions and in their alliances but then simply find new ppl for such jobs. im pretty sure with such a big number of players nowadays, u can find plenty of volunteers to do the job properly The fact of the matter is there is no proof that a GM/Dev is abusing his power and if anyone has that proof i would urge them to contact ccp. Ive been in BoB for awhile and i can honestly say ive never seen it and ive never been slipped any info on anything from a GM/Dev. So proof before accusation please cos i have absolutly no problem with GM/DEV's playing in other alliances then BoB. i didnt accuse ur guys or anyone elses that they abuse powers, simply cuz i dont have any proofs for that. i just say ppl acccuse them. i can be or not be suspicious bout something but i aint gonna "attack" anyone without proofs. just said that when plenty of ppl talk bout it, it aint good for ccp if u know what i mean. so plz read carefuly before "attacking" me. as i said i would kick them all from all alliances so ppl dont have to think bout that :) Sorry hun, didnt mean to sound attackingly was more directed to the recent "threats" of exposing GM/Devs etc not you personally BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon
Cyleth Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.10 23:14:00 - [282] Originally by: Drakma Nope, I tried to learn from BoB Fixed. Keep on learning, you are almost doing well. -- Nobody stays behind
Scoundrelus Unseen Jihad	Posted - 2006.10.10 23:21:00 - [283] Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Scoundrelus Originally by: Reite Originally by: Cupdeez BOB has many GM's in the ranks. BOB your players logoff to save pods too. BOB your players copy bookmarks to lagg the node when fighting. You say they all do it to you, but you do the samething if not more right back. Proof or stfu? Actually I can PROVE it. The proof is Censored -CCP and furthermore Censored -CCP has admitted to being a GM on your alliance. On top of that I have a fraps of you guys Censored -CCP. Well I thought it was funny. =============================================== We are Watching You.
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.11 00:10:00 - [284] Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Drakma Originally by: Romulus Maximus SirMolle's posts stem from the need to try and motivate his troops. Some leaders lie/bend the facts etc,to try and make thier efforts look better than they really are. Whether he actually believes what he writes, is the fine line seperating a mis guiding leader, and a nutjob! There you go, fixed it for you. You dont really get that 400+ BS kills is enough motivation for our blood thirsty troops right ? lol Molles "motivation" speech after the weekend was a pat on the back for a job well done, one simple evemail that ill even send to you if you want to see how a real leaders treat their members. No BoB CEO has ever treated anyone of us with anything but respect and for that they only get the members respect back. We save the propoganda for eve-o our members are smart enough to see through bull**** like the blogs put infront of ASCN members. If anyone of your members believes youve hit a nerve with us or that your hurting us because your keeping the fight in our space ... think twice we are more then happy to entertain ourselves close to home, Its a first ill admit and im quite impressed that ASCN brought it to us. But trust me when i say that we are all happy and getting more and more motivated. ASCN may be a rich alliance ... but so are we and we can match anything you got. My eyes, they bleed D: ----------------- Victory or death! ... knitting is also an option.
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2006.10.11 00:13:00 - [285] Originally by: Kryztal ASCN may be a rich alliance ... but so are we and we can match anything you got. Flop your titan out for us then! Originally by: Avon Originally by: Dark Shikari What single item is larger than a jetcan? My ego?
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2006.10.11 00:18:00 - [286] Originally by: Reite Originally by: Cupdeez BOB has many GM's in the ranks. BOB your players logoff to save pods too. BOB your players copy bookmarks to lagg the node when fighting. Proof or stfu? Point 1, is fact, its been admitted by many, formally, and in informal conversations. Of course other alliances have GM's also. Point 2, well ive never seen it myself. Out of people who log off to save pods, BoB seem to do it less than most. Point 3, could be proven if we were allowed to post GM communications (Petition responces) on the forums, so its fact, but CCP porevent us providing proof. Next youll be saying BoB cant shoot through PoS shields!!!! Originally by: Avon Originally by: Dark Shikari What single item is larger than a jetcan? My ego?
Lord Draco Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 00:25:00 - [287] Originally by: w0rmy Originally by: Reite Originally by: Cupdeez BOB has many GM's in the ranks. BOB your players logoff to save pods too. BOB your players copy bookmarks to lagg the node when fighting. Proof or stfu? Point 1, is fact, its been admitted by many, formally, and in informal conversations. Of course other alliances have GM's also. Point 2, well ive never seen it myself. Out of people who log off to save pods, BoB seem to do it less than most. Point 3, could be proven if we were allowed to post GM communications (Petition responces) on the forums, so its fact, but CCP porevent us providing proof. Next youll be saying BoB cant shoot through PoS shields!!!! Welcome to the xirtam world of 'facts'. Hearing rumors from other tinfoilasshats does not constitute as a fact
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2006.10.11 00:33:00 - [288] Edited by: w0rmy on 11/10/2006 00:34:55 Originally by: Lord Draco Welcome to the xirtam world of 'facts'. Hearing rumors from other tinfoilasshats does not constitute as a fact Being their first hand, does. Hearing it first hand, does. Seeing it first hand, does. Having the GM petition responce sitting in my petition list, does. Now try prove me wrong. No Xirtams were involved in the making of this post. Originally by: Avon Originally by: Dark Shikari What single item is larger than a jetcan? My ego?
Lord Draco Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 00:37:00 - [289] Originally by: w0rmy Edited by: w0rmy on 11/10/2006 00:34:55 Originally by: Lord Draco Welcome to the xirtam world of 'facts'. Hearing rumors from other tinfoilasshats does not constitute as a fact Being their first hand, does. Hearing it first hand, does. Seeing it first hand, does. Having the GM petition responce sitting in my petition list, does. Now try prove me wrong. No Xirtams were involved in the making of this post. Feel free to pot some pictures because quite frankly I can't take your word for it. You claim to see stuff first hand, how about some evidence. I could make a whole host of unsubstantiated claims, but without evidence I'd look like you. null
Rexthor Hammerfists Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 00:39:00 - [290] BOB has many GM's in the ranks. BOB your players logoff to save pods too. BOB your players copy bookmarks to lagg the node when fighting. what employee would risk his job for a pc game, i know wi wouldnt in this times. if u encounter an bob pilot logging of his pod, send a mail to an director or ceo of him, i promise he will get punished. every single bob pilot hates lag, and we do not have an advantage from lag, so why would one copy bms to cause lag? thats plain stupid, and id like to see ur petition thingie, cause i dont believe u one word. let me tell that we would kill way more ascn if there wouldnt b lag, since lag makes -warp in sniping warp outs- way harder. - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.

w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2006.10.11 00:40:00 - [291] Edited by: w0rmy on 11/10/2006 00:40:49 Originally by: Lord Draco Feel free to pot some pictures because quite frankly I can't take your word for it. You claim to see stuff first hand, how about some evidence. I could make a whole host of unsubstantiated claims, but without evidence I'd look like you. Unfortunately, as I stated before, I cannot provide evidence to Point 3, as the rules clearly state I am not allowed to. I would, if game rules would permit me. And point 1, are you seriously suggesting BoB has NO GM's in its midst? Because saying so will loose you any credibility you had. Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists [i]BOB has many GM's in the ranks. what employee would risk his job for a pc game, You dont read the forums then? Originally by: Avon Originally by: Dark Shikari What single item is larger than a jetcan? My ego?
Rexthor Hammerfists Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 00:43:00 - [292] well, w9ormy, u cans end me a link via evemail, to hazrat izza ingame. if thats right ill come here and admit u were right. til that happens ppl will b better off not believeing u one word, its just plain stupid. - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2006.10.11 00:49:00 - [293] Edited by: w0rmy on 11/10/2006 00:51:57 Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists well, w9ormy, u cans end me a link via evemail, to hazrat izza ingame. if thats right ill come here and admit u were right. til that happens ppl will b better off not believeing u one word, its just plain stupid. Didnt a GM just get fired recently for cheating? It was all over the forums, remember? Oh thats right... No employee would risk their Job for a game would they! And if you cant use eve-search.com, it doesnt mean im wrong, it just means youve probably got fat fingers. edit: And for you trolls, at NO POINT have I suggested the GM's in bob cheat, simply facts made public: A: BoB like other alliances have GM members. B: GM's are people, and just like some people are criminals, some GM's will cheat. History has shown this. Originally by: Avon Originally by: Dark Shikari What single item is larger than a jetcan? My ego?
Lord Draco Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 00:55:00 - [294] Originally by: w0rmy And point 1, are you seriously suggesting BoB has NO GM's in its midst? Because saying so will loose you any credibility you had. Oh I see, so I ask for some proof and you try turning it around on me. I don't know and don't care if bob does or doesnt have GM's or CCP employees in their ranks. It is a red herring. If they are playing with us, good for them, they can see what needs improvements from a game mechanic standpoint. Just don't try playing word games here. It is your responsibility to provide proof not conjecture since YOU made the accusation and insuniations. null
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2006.10.11 01:00:00 - [295] Originally by: Lord Draco Oh I see, so I ask for some proof and you try turning it around on me. I don't know and don't care if bob does or doesnt have GM's or CCP employees in their ranks. It is a red herring. If they are playing with us, good for them, they can see what needs improvements from a game mechanic standpoint. Just don't try playing word games here. It is your responsibility to provide proof not conjecture since YOU made the accusation and insuniations. What accusations did I make? BoB have GM members in their midst, just like many other alliances, its not an accusation, its a fact. You asking me for proof is either a thinly vailed attempt for me to proceed past the terms of the AUP, or its an incredibly niave comment on your behalf. You challenge me to prove it, hey well I challenge you to Deny it. Originally by: Avon Originally by: Dark Shikari What single item is larger than a jetcan? My ego?
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 01:05:00 - [296] I see all the nutters are coming out of the woodwork at the moment. Eve Blacklight Style
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2006.10.11 01:11:00 - [297] Originally by: Blacklight I see all the nutters are coming out of the woodwork at the moment. Pot, Kettle, why hello their fellow Nutter. To you sir, I extend a challenge that will stretch even your abilitys... Here it is: Post Constructively for once. Originally by: Avon Originally by: Dark Shikari What single item is larger than a jetcan? My ego?
Remmington Daniels Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 01:18:00 - [298] Originally by: w0rmy Originally by: Blacklight I see all the nutters are coming out of the woodwork at the moment. Post Constructively for once. That was a constructive post. Better than most of the bullcrap you're writing. -----------------
CitzNo 097864 Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2006.10.11 01:29:00 - [299] lol goonies tbqh
oDDiTy V2 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 01:52:00 - [300] Originally by: w0rmy What accusations did I make? BoB have GM members in their midst, just like many other alliances, its not an accusation, its a fact. You asking me for proof is either a thinly vailed attempt for me to proceed past the terms of the AUP, or its an incredibly niave comment on your behalf. You challenge me to prove it, hey well I challenge you to Deny it. Ok, so that may be true, HOWEVER, what the hell makes you think that any GM's player characters that may or may not be in BoB behave ANY differently than those who may or may not be in other alliances. What is giving you the delusion that BoB has some sort of magical advantage being given to us?

Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 02:22:00 - [301] Originally by: w0rmy Originally by: Blacklight I see all the nutters are coming out of the woodwork at the moment. Pot, Kettle, why hello their fellow Nutter. To you sir, I extend a challenge that will stretch even your abilitys... Here it is: Post Constructively for once. Where did I say I was referring to you? If the cap fits wear it. That is my constructive contribution to this thread. Eve Blacklight Style
BerekHalfhand	Posted - 2006.10.11 02:39:00 - [302] Just to lighten things up abit, does George Lucas know about the BoB sig's, and if he does what u paying him in copy right???? p.s. loving them anyway
Drakma Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 03:50:00 - [303] Edited by: Drakma on 11/10/2006 03:54:25 Edited by: Drakma on 11/10/2006 03:50:35 Originally by: Rift Scorn Originally by: Drakma Originally by: Romulus Maximus SirMolle's posts stem from the need to try and motivate his troops. Some leaders lie/bend the facts etc,to try and make thier efforts look better than they really are. Whether he actually believes what he writes, is the fine line seperating a mis guiding leader, and a nutjob! I jump out on my alliance mates and leave them to die in their 2 Bill Dreadnoughts. If we're changing quotes then i thought i'd fix yours as well. Wasn't that nice of me. Yes, because a ship can't be replaced. Please... Honestly, what is wrong in removing assets from a scenario that you know you can not win? You're saying you would have kept the fleet there to support something that you knew was going sour? And that you'd probably go down as well?
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.11 03:53:00 - [304] I bet you would all stop arguing if santa claus blew you all up a tech II sleigh, then gave your modules to minmatar children. ----------------- Victory or death! ... knitting is also an option.
Durethia Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 05:51:00 - [305] Originally by: BerekHalfhand Just to lighten things up abit, does George Lucas know about the BoB sig's, and if he does what u paying him in copy right???? p.s. loving them anyway Well, not sure about that. But I have a friend that hangs out at George Lucas's Ranch... maybe I can get a formal response? As for me, I decided not to take chances.
Weebear Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 06:38:00 - [306] Edited by: Weebear on 11/10/2006 06:37:55 Originally by: BerekHalfhand Just to lighten things up abit, does George Lucas know about the BoB sig's, and if he does what u paying him in copy right???? p.s. loving them anyway George Lucas is a CCP GM who is also in BoB! He got fed up of all that Star Wars crap after the first one. The other 5 were written by Molle. /adjusts tnfoil hat
ProphetGuru Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 06:39:00 - [307] Originally by: Plim I bet you would all stop arguing if santa claus blew you all up a tech II sleigh, then gave your modules to minmatar children. I endorse this post. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
Xeris Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 06:50:00 - [308] Originally by: w0rmy You challenge me to prove it, hey well I challenge you to Deny it. Are you that dense? How can we deny something that isn't proven. Please see: salem witch trials.
Cyleth Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 06:56:00 - [309] Originally by: w0rmy Originally by: Reite Originally by: Cupdeez BOB has many GM's in the ranks. BOB your players logoff to save pods too. BOB your players copy bookmarks to lagg the node when fighting. Proof or stfu? Point 1, is fact, its been admitted by many, formally, and in informal conversations. Of course other alliances have GM's also. Point 2, well ive never seen it myself. Out of people who log off to save pods, BoB seem to do it less than most. Point 3, could be proven if we were allowed to post GM communications (Petition responces) on the forums, so its fact, but CCP porevent us providing proof. Next youll be saying BoB cant shoot through PoS shields!!!! hahahaha Can you also tell me how I can turn off my "The Headshot Hax"? mkay? -- Nobody stays behind
Rebellion Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 07:02:00 - [310] BoB "troops" don't need to be motivated. It's already an effort to stop some from shooting people we aren't supposed to be shooting. Unlike cyvok that posts blogs saying how the slaughter in TPAR-G was actually ASCN taking the battle to BoB, or McCreedy explaining the failure of his strategy as due to BoB being cheaters, BoB leadership have no reason to lie to their membership. Why? A lot of us would rather quit EVE than lie to each other because we aren't a group because we play EVE, we're playing EVE because we are a group. The forum propaganda would be less if ASCN's leadership just stopped lying to their members, and us finding out about it. Being called cheaters makes us angry because we aren't. Just be logical, if we did cheat throughout all these years that we've been playing EVE at such a high profile, then we would have already been banned several times over and EVE wouldn't have the problem of BoB. Of course, the realization of this is what usually leads to the DEV/GM accusations. There's really no winning versus the tinfoil hat brigade.

Zaethiel	Posted - 2006.10.11 07:29:00 - [311] Originally by: Roxanna Kell I got nothing against any side of the conflict, apart from john mccreedy for being a clown. But this is getting worst than a Retirment home. and there is too much deja vu posts going on. common words: Propaganda, smack, hackers, list goes on. Laaaaaaaaggggg laaaaaaaGGGGG LAaaaagggg. battle is over were are you guys? Jita sir. What do you have against John? I got lots. lol. On another note i do like how he pushes for people to get cap ships before they have the skills to properly outfit them. That kinda leads to dreads like this one: ???????????
Dell Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 08:06:00 - [312] wormy, puts these "GM evemails" on your own webspace/site and then just give anyone who evemails u a link 2 it? come on big man lets see this proof?? o right you cant do that can u lol u sad ******* arseclown BoB Killboard
Yikes Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 08:33:00 - [313] These cheat accusations are getting a bit annoying and detracting from the image im trying to portray of an uber, slightly balding killing machine. If we had GM help my character would have more hair and be better looking. This game is like a sport: when people lose they always blame the referee, the rules, the crowd and Cristiano Ronaldo. In short, everything but themselves usually before it all goes **** up and they get relegated or kicked out of the competition. To prevent cheating and exploits, we have GM's who you can complain to and i'm sure they investigate any hacking/exploit accusations thoroughly and take the necessary measures. Maybe we should have mandatory drug testing before fleet battles. /logs off quick and crashes node
Christopher Multsanti Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.10.11 08:51:00 - [314] Originally by: Xeris Originally by: w0rmy You challenge me to prove it, hey well I challenge you to Deny it. Are you that dense? How can we deny something that isn't proven. Please see: salem witch trials. Not wanting to get off topic here at all but, You cannot deny something that has been proven, you can deny accusations but not proof. [ER Public Relations Officer] [Is main activated, check, Post!]
BlackRain Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 08:59:00 - [315] I love being called a coward, cheater and a spineless quakekiddie living at mom's place. I apparently have no life and I'm a loser. It must be so because CYVOK, the high emperor of all living has seen it all. I've seen all this stuff being used once before, in the GNW. It consisted of telling the troops that the only reason your enemy is winning is because they cheat. In fair combat the filthy hackers wouldn't stand a damn chance. Also the point where you call the enemy a bunch of lifeless loserkids who do nothing else than play is very important to this morale boosting campaign. In the end, you all know how "well" it worked. ------------------- -
Umbriele Gallente Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 09:04:00 - [316] Originally by: Weebear George Lucas is a CCP GM who is also in BoB! He got fed up of all that Star Wars crap after the first one. The other 5 were written by Molle. /adjusts tnfoil hat
Roxanna Kell BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.11 10:31:00 - [317] Originally by: Zaethiel Originally by: Roxanna Kell I got nothing against any side of the conflict, apart from john mccreedy for being a clown. But this is getting worst than a Retirment home. and there is too much deja vu posts going on. common words: Propaganda, smack, hackers, list goes on. Laaaaaaaaggggg laaaaaaaGGGGG LAaaaagggg. battle is over were are you guys? Jita sir. What do you have against John? I got lots. lol. On another note i do like how he pushes for people to get cap ships before they have the skills to properly outfit them. That kinda leads to dreads like this one: ??????????? T1 fitted dread FTL. Quote: "Don't touch the red button!"
Bretonia Gallente Eve Defence Force	Posted - 2006.10.11 10:37:00 - [318] JOhn McCreedy is a great CEO and fantastic bloke, you chaps do not know him so do not have the right to vote. Rox hates him due to being kicked out, others? I can only guess. Just fight fair and post nice and Eve will be a better place. Putting someone down you do not know only makes you look the fool ------------------------------------------------ "I don't want to achieve immortality through my work. I want to achieve it through not dying."
Evil RedEye	Posted - 2006.10.11 10:39:00 - [319] Edited by: Evil RedEye on 11/10/2006 10:39:39 -=edit for spelling=- From what i've seen from both killboards BoB are kicking ass. Nicely done guys!! Now from this thread, all I can see are smack, zomg bob hax0rz, cheatin nubs tehy need to be banned!1!!11!1 Can those who are doing this please just S T F U about it unless you have CONCLUSIVE PROOF that will, when passed to GMs make a differance. If not then stop posting because there is no need. I'm hearing rumours from BoB and ASCN members about it all and thats all I hear, rumours. I haven't seen one teeny tiny bit of proof. So if i dismiss all of this it becomes BoB slaughtering ASCN =) Keep the work up BoB! =) Ebil
Lord Draco Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 10:44:00 - [320] Originally by: Bretonia JOhn McCreedy is a great CEO and fantastic bloke, you chaps do not know him so do not have the right to vote. Rox hates him due to being kicked out, others? I can only guess. Just fight fair and post nice and Eve will be a better place. Putting someone down you do not know only makes you look the fool Reading his blogs was all I needed to know. null

Lianhaun Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 10:46:00 - [321] Originally by: Rebellion BoB "troops" don't need to be motivated. It's already an effort to stop some from shooting people we aren't supposed to be shooting. They all had it coming. Indies and non evol members are very dangerous to me. Sometimes evol too. I¦m not trigger happy, just on guard.
ZelRox Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 10:49:00 - [322] Lets just be friends and shoot eachother some more :) ---------------------- BiH 4tw
Dark Matter Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 10:52:00 - [323] Originally by: Bretonia JOhn McCreedy is a great CEO and fantastic bloke, you chaps do not know him so do not have the right to vote. Rox hates him due to being kicked out, others? I can only guess. Just fight fair and post nice and Eve will be a better place. Putting someone down you do not know only makes you look the fool Bret stop talking out of your other mouth /emeote points to his backside We both know the truth, I'll leave it there cheers DM
Roxanna Kell BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.11 10:54:00 - [324] Originally by: Bretonia JOhn McCreedy is a great CEO and fantastic bloke, you chaps do not know him so do not have the right to vote. Rox hates him due to being kicked out, others? I can only guess. Just fight fair and post nice and Eve will be a better place. Putting someone down you do not know only makes you look the fool I wasnt kicked out, though it wahts he made you believe, and thats why i hate him. when i left few guys left with me, and he tried to get be booted of the M.Corp, he sent a hidious Eve mail to velios. anyhow after that he apologies and found out he was wrong, and it was only some guys in EDF who made up rumours of me recruiting EDF guys. so its was all good, until i joined BOB, someone logged on EDF ts as ROX and booted people. me who never had Server admin when i left was blamed for it. and started acting like dks you are. so there bret, lying again as always. I still ahve friends in ASCN and EDF. You and john are just pethatic loosers, i read the EDF forum lately on how you lie to your mumbers about whats going on. not surprised most of your members Are Gone away, with sickness or RL issues, just not to fight for you Quote:** "Don't touch the red button!"
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.11 10:55:00 - [325] The BoB sigs are just great. Hilarious. Who made them, out of curiosity?
Winter Star Back Home In Time For Tea And Medals The Volition Cult	Posted - 2006.10.11 10:56:00 - [326] Edited by: Winter Star on 11/10/2006 10:56:15 Totally off topic: I really like your new sigs BoB. Edit: jinx!
Hast Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 10:58:00 - [327] Edited by: Hast on 11/10/2006 10:58:23 after reading CYVOK's latest blog, I think there be might be room for some new ones aswell /me polishes the headshot macro Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:01:00 - [328] Yeah HAast, I really can't fathom how he and John make all that stuff up tbh. But the strangest of all is how, even if they themselves might beleive that nonsense, they expect blogs such as those to have much effect whent hey simply know we're gooing to be countering them on the eve-o forums. I mean, they must think their members are all exceedingly stupid or something. Old blog
Bretonia Gallente Eve Defence Force	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:05:00 - [329] "so there bret, lying again as always. I still ahve friends in ASCN and EDF. You and john are just pethatic loosers, i read the EDF forum lately on how you lie to your mumbers about whats going on. not surprised most of your members Are Gone away, with sickness or RL issues, just not to fight for you What I am lying since when ? when have i ever lied but be a mate to you rox? or anyone else lol mate your just plain dumb. Dark Matter? <3 Wub ------------------------------------------------ "I don't want to achieve immortality through my work. I want to achieve it through not dying."
Audrea Momentum.	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:06:00 - [330] Edited by: Audrea on 11/10/2006 11:06:59 Originally by: Hast Edited by: Hast on 11/10/2006 10:58:23 after reading CYVOK's latest blog, I think there be might be room for some new ones aswell /me polishes the headshot macro Can you copy/paste their blogs for our viewing pleasure, pls? no all of us have alts in ASCN lol ------------------ Save Deimos!

Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:08:00 - [331] How about we ask Cyvop nicely to stop posting his crap where we are not supposed to see and react to it and do it right here in public right away ? Saves us the trouble of having to copy/paste and laugh about it on our private forums before coming here to make fun of his delusions. Old blog
Hast Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:12:00 - [332] I feel sorry for the average ASCN joe really. Being fed lies like this would all the time cant be good. It is really fun reading CYVOK's blogs and seeing the stuff that he actually spouts at us. The latest blog describes us all as "no life quakekiddies" He says he has seen some of us being logged in for 12 hours at the time. But answer me this then dear CYVOK: did you have a webcam pointed at said individual all the time? Could he possibly have gone afk for a while? and how could you tell he was online for 12 hours unless you also were online for 12 hours? wich would in effect make you just as bad as you describe us. I could post the blog in its entirety and pick it apart one sentence at the time, but instead I'm just gonna address what pretty much shocked me and insulted my person. Quote: 13) Family & RL Unfortunately ASCN seems to be more populated with productive members of society then BoB. I have seem many BoB members logged in for 12+ hours a day every day. Conversely most ASCN members last about 4 hours during the week and about 6-8 on the weekends, at most. do you honestly believe that all of bob lives in their moms basement and have no families or life? We pretty much all have families and jobs except the lucky few that are still students of course I work alot, I hang out with my friends alot and when I have time to play eve, I usually do it in longer periods, like for instance a evening or a saturday before maybe going out with my friends. Is that wrong? Is it in your eyes wrong to play eve? Quote: The good news is that even with heave rotation we maintain decent numbers across all time zones. The bad news is that RL has a nasty way of benefiting QuakeKiddies that live with MoM or are unemployed. so in essence we are all quake kiddies with no life or jobs. P.S I actually live home with my parents, is that wrong when your 21 years old? I could prove to you that I have a job and real life friends, but if I did, it would prolly be all fabricated in photoshop wouldnt it? Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
Robbie Boozecruise Caldari Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:14:00 - [333] rox shut up i was there for the full event i even havce all the chat logs i can post if you want. you are an arrogant person who doesnt like it when you dont get your own way. Rox i have fought with you for longer than i should have i battled your side but you threw it all back. who am i you ask i am the person called Thist, K Starwind and Jesus
Tree Fiddy Caldari Heretic Entity	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:15:00 - [334] Originally by: Rod Blaine How about we ask Cyvop nicely to stop posting his crap where we are not supposed to see and react to it and do it right here in public right away ? Saves us the trouble of having to copy/paste and laugh about it on our private forums before coming here to make fun of his delusions. Howabout Bob actually STFU for a change. Are you paid bonuses for posting or something? I've actually had spyware that was less incessant and annoying. Give the propoganda a rest. I say I ain't giving you no tree fiddy you goddamned Loch Ness monster.
Evil RedEye Minmatar Maquis Drakonic	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:15:00 - [335] Originally by: Rod Blaine I mean, they must think their members are all exceedingly stupid or something. They don't think that. They KNOWit =P
Zaethiel Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:17:00 - [336] Originally by: Robbie Boozecruise rox shut up i was there for the full event i even havce all the chat logs i can post if you want. you are an arrogant person who doesnt like it when you dont get your own way. Rox i have fought with you for longer than i should have i battled your side but you threw it all back. who am i you ask i am the person called Thist, K Starwind and Jesus i think i remember you. weren't you the guy who wouldnt stop talking in corp chat about how much you sucked and how your charecters keep getting banned and stuff.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:18:00 - [337] Well, I myself actually liked this part better Hast: Quote: would much rather prefer to play with mature, intelligent and productive members of society then morons that think winning with a headshot macro takes skill. 14) We are Done Complaining BoB cheats, we all know it, we have seen it. I have spent the better part of a week ranting about it. (Thankx Virt, Drakma, John and my other victims) I am over it. If you need to rant about it feel free to PM me your rant or grab me on team speak and let it all out in a private channel with me. ASCN is done complaining about BoBÆs ôcreative use of VERY poor game mechanicsö aka: ôThe Headshot Macroö. We are going to adapt to their ôtacticsö and kill them anyway. In response to Cyvok's invitation for his members to PM him with rants about our sploitage and h4xoring I would like to offer my respects and understanding for him as an eminent alliance leader. I fully understand that our h4xes and sploits are thus unfairly taxing his limited time as a productive member of society with an actual RL not involving living in his mom's basement playing quake with headshotmacro's, and as such would like to extend the same invitation to all ASCN members. Please pm me with your rants about our h4xsploits and other general misbehaviour, I implore you, help preserve your leader's sanity ! Old blog
Yikes Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:24:00 - [338] Just for the record. Im rubbish at Quake Thanks
Louis DelaBlanche Cosmic Odyssey Chorus of Dawn	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:31:00 - [339] Quote: The good news is that even with heave rotation we maintain decent numbers across all time zones. The bad news is that RL has a nasty way of benefiting QuakeKiddies that live with MoM or are unemployed. Nothing wrong with playing Quake, it can be a fun game. & besides, if theyre Quake players (which the name indicates), wouldnt that eat into their EVEtime? In anycase. As others have said it would be nice to see a little less smack/flaming/spamming by both sides & a little more constructive discussion/reporting. Theres only so much "OMFG ASCN got WTFPWNED" countered by "BOB are teh nerds" I can take before it gets boring.
Weebear Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:32:00 - [340] Originally by: Rod Blaine How about we ask Cyvop nicely to stop posting his crap where we are not supposed to see and react to it and do it right here in public right away ? Saves us the trouble of having to copy/paste and laugh about it on our private forums before coming here to make fun of his delusions. Or if it upsets you all so much, just don't read it at all...

Lootcatcher	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:32:00 - [341] Atleast ASCN has a blog, judging by the amount of time you BoB spend posting all this junk we can assume your boards must be pretty boring.
DeadProphet Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:33:00 - [342] Originally by: Butter Dog The BoB sigs are just great. Hilarious. Who made them, out of curiosity? All credit goes to HostageTaker of BNC :)
Durethia Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:33:00 - [343] Originally by: Yikes Just for the record. Im rubbish at Quake Thanks Me and my CTO were at our house when we decided to have a corp wide Quake Fest. We hosted the Quake Server at home (thanks to load balanced dual DS1s coming into the house... no, the real ones not that DSL or 'Fractional' T1 crap). Anyways, I ran out of rockets... but had lots of Railgun ammo. So I had to run around with the Railgun. I insta-gibbed our Web Developer multiple times, even mid air head shots from the jump booster points.... He was calling me on the phone, my CTO... insisting that I was cheating. He was so ****ed off at work, we had to replace his keyboard and mouse. Finally... he actually drove from work to the house and demanded to sit and watch me play! Good times! Oh, and UT2003... noone can survive me in the Giant Maps with Insta Gibs!
dabster Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:36:00 - [344] Cant believe this rant of crap isnt locked yet. ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click.
Sionn Klorgh Minmatar Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:39:00 - [345] Rod, I don't want to be draged into these organized BOB circle jerks but let me point out a fact. The simple truth is that you're debating the contents of a blog off the ASCN forums. You guys fight with your people spying on our boards and on our fleets in our teamspeak server. You COULD do without either (or even just one) very easily but you choose to keep the out of game advantage (which you somehow justify as a part of eve). Why? Why do BOB, the almighty PVP force, need to use spies out of game to get advantages inside EVE? Fair fights not your thing perhaps? Thus, I'm sorry if I'm cynical with the rest of ASCN about honest fair play in BOB.
Dark Matter Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:41:00 - [346] Originally by: Audrea Edited by: Audrea on 11/10/2006 11:06:59 Originally by: Hast Edited by: Hast on 11/10/2006 10:58:23 after reading CYVOK's latest blog, I think there be might be room for some new ones aswell /me polishes the headshot macro Can you copy/paste their blogs for our viewing pleasure, pls? no all of us have alts in ASCN lol We would but it's rather large and the amount of lag caused by posting it would crash a node and we wouldn't want to be accused of exploiting Eve
Hast Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:42:00 - [347] Originally by: Sionn Klorgh Rod, I don't want to be draged into these organized BOB circle jerks but let me point out a fact. The simple truth is that you're debating the contents of a blog off the ASCN forums. You guys fight with your people spying on our boards and on our fleets in our teamspeak server. You COULD do without either (or even just one) very easily but you choose to keep the out of game advantage (which you somehow justify as a part of eve). Why? Why do BOB, the almighty PVP force, need to use spies out of game to get advantages inside EVE? Fair fights not your thing perhaps? Thus, I'm sorry if I'm cynical with the rest of ASCN about honest fair play in BOB. ASCN has never used a spy on either enemy TS or forums? Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:45:00 - [348] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 11/10/2006 11:47:15 Originally by: Sionn Klorgh Rod, I don't want to be draged into these organized BOB circle jerks but let me point out a fact. The simple truth is that you're debating the contents of a blog off the ASCN forums. You guys fight with your people spying on our boards and on our fleets in our teamspeak server. You COULD do without either (or even just one) very easily but you choose to keep the out of game advantage (which you somehow justify as a part of eve). Why? Why do BOB, the almighty PVP force, need to use spies out of game to get advantages inside EVE? Fair fights not your thing perhaps? Thus, I'm sorry if I'm cynical with the rest of ASCN about honest fair play in BOB. As I explained to Butter Dog in another thread (might even be this one but I cba looking), it comes down to a difference of opinion on what Eve is. And to what degree a communications or organisational tool used in direct and close combination with this game can ever constitute an "out of game mechanic". Also, if you doubt that ASCN uses spies on us as much as we use them on you you are not much better off then Cyvok. Suspicion turns into paranoia when you see ghosts behind every tree, or in every TS channel for that matter. And yes, we discuss a blog from the ASCN forums here. Don't you think we have the right to bring this into a domain where we can discuss it in presence of the ASCN members he is so blatantly lying to ? If he would jsut be telling you that he thinks we are braggards and that reality is not as we portray it to be here, chances are we would have let it alone. However, this is beyond decency. You can have qualms about invading someone's privacy, but then you should have as many if not more reservations about baseless accusations of foul play. Hell, these aren't baseless accusaitons, they are rampant paranoid delusions. Old blog
Fendragun Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:48:00 - [349] see this is how the forums should be god makes me happy to see them restored to their former glory.
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:49:00 - [350] Originally by: Plim I bet you would all stop arguing if santa claus blew you all up a tech II sleigh, then gave your modules to minmatar children. Away with theee , too early for celes throwing bananas in the morning :P But anyway i still dont understand whats all this rabble rabble going for ?? Its realy simple if u have somehting aginst us plz petion if not then just zip it. Tinfoil hattery is wellcome but now it is getting way silly coz every one now is just shooting stuff that relay cant be classified to anything more than utter BS. "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"

Bretonia Gallente Eve Defence Force	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:49:00 - [351] Propaganda and rubbish tbh o/ lo mum ------------------------------------------------ "I don't want to achieve immortality through my work. I want to achieve it through not dying."
Sionn Klorgh Minmatar Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:50:00 - [352] Quote: ASCN has never used a spy on either enemy TS or forums? Not as far as I know. Its clearly not official policy like it is in BOB. I've never been in a gang in ASCN where we were fed enemy intel via a spy in somebody elses TS. Nor have I ever seen on EVE-O or on our boards, intel posted which was illegally ripped out of some boards where we were not invited. I'll be happy to admit a mistake if you find something but from my memory, nothing. I view that TS issue graver than the forums because I know how porous our forums are to past members. With respect to TS spying, its a extreme low in our corp. We just don't do it. Where is the damn enjoyment in this game when you know what the enemy is going to do.
Roxanna Kell BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:52:00 - [353] Originally by: Bretonia Dude, i didnt hate john when i was in EDF, but i still cant forgive him for accusing me on that TeamSpeak issue. He said he know that it was me because of my IP. My ip is static, and always has been. and funny enogh iam still able to go on the EDF forum. guese he got the wrong IP. Guese he shouldn't ve Rushed into acting the way he did. Quote: "Don't touch the red button!"
Sionn Klorgh Minmatar Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:52:00 - [354] Edited by: Sionn Klorgh on 11/10/2006 11:52:32 Quote: As I explained to Butter Dog in another thread (might even be this one but I cba looking), it comes down to a difference of opinion on what Eve is. And to what degree a communications or organisational tool used in direct and close combination with this game can ever constitute an "out of game mechanic". In other words Rod, you and BOB need the out of game advantage (TS spying) to fight your war. Your call mate. Your call.
Hast Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:53:00 - [355] Originally by: Sionn Klorgh Quote: ASCN has never used a spy on either enemy TS or forums? Not as far as I know. Its clearly not official policy like it is in BOB. I've never been in a gang in ASCN where we were fed enemy intel via a spy in somebody elses TS. Nor have I ever seen on EVE-O or on our boards, intel posted which was illegally ripped out of some boards where we were not invited. I'll be happy to admit a mistake if you find something but from my memory, nothing. I view that TS issue graver than the forums because I know how porous our forums are to past members. With respect to TS spying, its a extreme low in our corp. We just don't do it. Where is the damn enjoyment in this game when you know what the enemy is going to do. wow then, how do you think CYVOK gets his great intel then? Or is it maybe made up? the more I think of it the latter seems more plausible. OK, ASCN doesent use spies would explain alot tbh Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:55:00 - [356] Originally by: Sionn Klorgh Rod, I don't want to be draged into these organized BOB circle jerks but let me point out a fact. The simple truth is that you're debating the contents of a blog off the ASCN forums. You guys fight with your people spying on our boards and on our fleets in our teamspeak server. You COULD do without either (or even just one) very easily but you choose to keep the out of game advantage (which you somehow justify as a part of eve). Why? Why do BOB, the almighty PVP force, need to use spies out of game to get advantages inside EVE? Fair fights not your thing perhaps? Thus, I'm sorry if I'm cynical with the rest of ASCN about honest fair play in BOB. LoL Fact #1 Cyvok posted screenshots and quoted from our Forums on the ASCN forums. Fact #2 We had a spy on TS when someone from ASCN was reading up the Channel Commanders and numbers from our TS. So how on earth are we playing any more "unfair" then you ? I mean dont fault us for actually having better spies then you :P No big secret that we use spies, everyone in EvE that knows BoB knows it. How on earth do you think the EC-P8R op happened ? Because of spies. ASCN had no problems with it then so get over yourself :P Your just **ed because its beeing aimed at you now thats all. BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon**
Sionn Klorgh Minmatar Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:57:00 - [357] Quote: wow then, how do you think CYVOK gets his great intel then? Or is it maybe made up? the more I think of it the latter seems more plausible. OK, ASCN doesent use spies Razz would explain alot tbh There could be a million ways to get intel but I've never seen CYVOK posting up internal communication ANYWHERE where he was not allowed. The MAJOR issue is Teamspeak. The simple fact is YOU use spies, we don't. You feel the need to have this advantage yet we do not. As the war goes on, you remember that.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 11:58:00 - [358] Originally by: Sionn Klorgh Edited by: Sionn Klorgh on 11/10/2006 11:52:32 Quote: As I explained to Butter Dog in another thread (might even be this one but I cba looking), it comes down to a difference of opinion on what Eve is. And to what degree a communications or organisational tool used in direct and close combination with this game can ever constitute an "out of game mechanic". In other words Rod, you and BOB need the out of game advantage (TS spying) to fight your war. Your call mate. Your call. Just like you I have never been in a gang which was fed information directly from the enemies' TS. I'm sure you won't beleive that, but whatever. Spies have much greater use outside of comabt then in it you know. But just ask Cyvok about that, he knows as well as we do how the spying game goes. Old blog
Max Teranous Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:00:00 - [359] As someone else said in another thread, if you don't think your alliance uses spies, you either aren't high up enough or trusted enough to know about them. And if your spies are rubbish (i.e. MC with 50 cap ships in Stain) you'd best find some new ones Max --------------------
Hast Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:01:00 - [360] Originally by: Sionn Klorgh Quote: wow then, how do you think CYVOK gets his great intel then? Or is it maybe made up? the more I think of it the latter seems more plausible. OK, ASCN doesent use spies Razz would explain alot tbh There could be a million ways to get intel but I've never seen CYVOK posting up internal communication ANYWHERE where he was not allowed. The MAJOR issue is Teamspeak. The simple fact is YOU use spies, we don't. You feel the need to have this advantage yet we do not. As the war goes on, you remember that. your quite the naive one arent you? I'm sorry to crush your delusion of CYVOK as the white knight but it doesent matter if he post it in its entirety or base his other posts on them. And the Teamspeak issue? See Kryztals reply above Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-

Abriana Overlord Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:05:00 - [361] Quote: The good news is that even with heave rotation we maintain decent numbers across all time zones. The bad news is that RL has a nasty way of benefiting QuakeKiddies that live with MoM or are unemployed. A note to the dillusional Mr.Cyvok A most interesting way of describing us in BOB Myself being happily married, having three children, working 60+ hours per week as a Programme Manager, spending loads of quality time with my family and maintaining an active social life while still maintaining a high kill ratio against ASCN pilots in this game is rather amusing. I am so glad I fit in to your highly accurate stereotyping cough
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:06:00 - [362] Edited by: Butter Dog on 11/10/2006 12:07:23 Originally by: Rod Blaine Hell, these aren't baseless accusaitons, they are rampant paranoid delusions. At least they are on a private board. Say what you like about ASCN, but they don't rake the muck on a public board like you guys do. Thats why pretty much everyone reading these threads has far more respect for ASCN's forum conduct than that of your alliance. Don't get me wrong, I love these flame fests, they are great fun. But for me, the point of gaining inside intelligence on an foe is NOT to then drag it all over a public forum, but to put it to use in game in an honourable and effective way. For all your claims and protests of being honourable, you do a remarkably poor job of proving it with threads like this.
Weebear Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:06:00 - [363] Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Sionn Klorgh Rod, I don't want to be draged into these organized BOB circle jerks but let me point out a fact. The simple truth is that you're debating the contents of a blog off the ASCN forums. You guys fight with your people spying on our boards and on our fleets in our teamspeak server. You COULD do without either (or even just one) very easily but you choose to keep the out of game advantage (which you somehow justify as a part of eve). Why? Why do BOB, the almighty PVP force, need to use spies out of game to get advantages inside EVE? Fair fights not your thing perhaps? Thus, I'm sorry if I'm cynical with the rest of ASCN about honest fair play in BOB. LoL Fact #1 Cyvok posted screenshots and quoted from our Forums on the ASCN forums. Can you post a link to the thread, as the only quotes I can remember from the BoB forums were taken from the general public board!
Ian Novarider Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:11:00 - [364] \me logs into this thread \me smiles at all the funny sigs in this thread \me laughs about all the BoB posters talking to each other most of the time \me logs back into the game Have fun - we do ;-) Ian Quote: Know thy enemy and know thyself and thou will be victorious in all thy battles.
Auman Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:12:00 - [365] Originally by: Sionn Klorgh Strange, because I've NEVER heard intel from your TS server since I've been PVPing in ASCN and thats been quite a while. FACT my friend, WE DON'T DO IT! You do it as official policy. Just accept the fact that you need the out of game advantage to fight. Anything you can do to get an unfair match up. Are you an FC? Why would they tell you? We don't broadcast TS intel to our general members. Spying has been done by all major alliances since Eve went live. If you honestly think ASCN do not spy on other alliances (not just BoB!) I think you're being a bit naive.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:20:00 - [366] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 11/10/2006 12:20:37 Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 11/10/2006 12:07:23 Originally by: Rod Blaine Hell, these aren't baseless accusaitons, they are rampant paranoid delusions. At least they are on a private board. Say what you like about ASCN, but they don't rake the muck on a public board like you guys do. Thats why pretty much everyone reading these threads has far more respect for ASCN's forum conduct than that of your alliance. Which, if true, can be attributed to what exactly ? Oh yes, to the fact that the drivel they come up with only makes it onto here when we quote it. That doesn't however mean that it doesn't exist, nor that it isn't unacceptable behaviour. A question, do you think it is wrong of us to take serious accusations against us and CCP such as have been voiced on their forums by their leaders, in all seriousness, and respond to them in this other private forum that's in part being read by the same audience as theirs is ? ASCN is large, many new as well as older players are part of it. Don't you think it is morally acceptable to counter outright lying propaganda such as posted by Mccreedy and Cyvok even if the source where you got it isn't entirely clean ? And isn't it true that in order to counter it, you often have to show it in a different setting for it to be seen as the nonsense it is ? Old blog
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:23:00 - [367] Originally by: Rod Blaine ASCN is large, many new as well as older players are part of it. Don't you think it is morally acceptable to counter outright lying propaganda such as posted by Mccreedy and Cyvok even if the source where you got it isn't entirely clean ? And isn't it true that in order to counter it, you often have to show it in a different setting for it to be seen as the nonsense it is ? I agree that it is completely ridiculous for ASCN to claim you are deliberately crashing nodes. But its propaganda, isnt it. Its fairly harmless as they keep it on a private board. If they had claimed that publically, you would have an arguement. But ASCN have kept their opinions private - unlike you guys.
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:28:00 - [368] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Rod Blaine ASCN is large, many new as well as older players are part of it. Don't you think it is morally acceptable to counter outright lying propaganda such as posted by Mccreedy and Cyvok even if the source where you got it isn't entirely clean ? And isn't it true that in order to counter it, you often have to show it in a different setting for it to be seen as the nonsense it is ? I agree that it is completely ridiculous for ASCN to claim you are deliberately crashing nodes. But its propaganda, isnt it. Its fairly harmless as they keep it on a private board. If they had claimed that publically, you would have an arguement. But ASCN have kept their opinions private - unlike you guys. No, it isn't. It's a shame you weren't around for the GNW, BD, because what you've seen so far is kindergarten stuff in comparison. CCP allowed it then and they will allow it now. It was just as valid then, as it is now and, what's even more funny, is that many in ASCN applauded the tactic at the time - yet now they lambast and are surprised BoB still do it because it is directed at them? Hypocrisy ftw.
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:29:00 - [369] Originally by: Sionn Klorgh Edited by: Sionn Klorgh on 11/10/2006 12:07:46 Edited by: Sionn Klorgh on 11/10/2006 12:03:08 Quote: wow then, how do you think CYVOK gets his great intel then? Or is it maybe made up? the more I think of it the latter seems more plausible. OK, ASCN doesent use spies Razz would explain alot tbh There could be a million ways to get intel but I've never seen CYVOK posting up internal communication ANYWHERE where he was not allowed. The MAJOR issue is Teamspeak. The simple fact is YOU use spies, we don't. You feel the need to have this advantage yet we do not. As the war goes on, you remember that. Quote: LoL Fact #1 Cyvok posted screenshots and quoted from our Forums on the ASCN forums. Fact #2 We had a spy on TS when someone from ASCN was reading up the Channel Commanders and numbers from our TS. So how on earth are we playing any more "unfair" then you ? I mean dont fault us for actually having better spies then you :P No big secret that we use spies, everyone in EvE that knows BoB knows it. How on earth do you think the EC-P8R op happened ? Because of spies. ASCN had no problems with it then so get over yourself :P Your just **ed because its beeing aimed at you now thats all. Strange, because I've NEVER heard intel from your TS server since I've been PVPing in ASCN and thats been quite a while. FACT my friend, WE DON'T DO IT! You do it as official policy. Just accept the fact that you need the out of game advantage to fight. Anything you can do to get an unfair match up. LoL only means your not important enough to know it, and i was on TS when it was said so spin another lie plz :P Just drop the innocent act and stop whining about how unfair it is. The game mechanics are there for you as well .. Not our fault your crap at it. BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon**
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:29:00 - [370] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 11/10/2006 12:31:07 Originally by: Butter Dog I agree that it is completely ridiculous for ASCN to claim you are deliberately crashing nodes. But its propaganda, isnt it. Its fairly harmless as they keep it on a private board. If they had claimed that publically, you would have an arguement. But ASCN have kept their opinions private - unlike you guys. I don't think an alliance of 4000+ members has just one opinon does it ? Cyvok may post on private forums used by one alliance, but there's still the 4000 members there, making it far from "keeping his opinion private". And it is HIS opinion, not that of ASCN. Propaganda is never private. That's the deal. You post delusional lies, we get to quote and walk all over them here. that's simply how we do things, and I see nothing at all wrong with it. Old blog

Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:33:00 - [371] Originally by: Weebear Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Sionn Klorgh Rod, I don't want to be draged into these organized BOB circle jerks but let me point out a fact. The simple truth is that you're debating the contents of a blog off the ASCN forums. You guys fight with your people spying on our boards and on our fleets in our teamspeak server. You COULD do without either (or even just one) very easily but you choose to keep the out of game advantage (which you somehow justify as a part of eve). Why? Why do BOB, the almighty PVP force, need to use spies out of game to get advantages inside EVE? Fair fights not your thing perhaps? Thus, I'm sorry if I'm cynical with the rest of ASCN about honest fair play in BOB. LoL Fact #1 Cyvok posted screenshots and quoted from our Forums on the ASCN forums. Can you post a link to the thread, as the only quotes I can remember from the BoB forums were taken from the general public board! I would if i had access to your forums, i think it was in one of cyvoks blogs, there are so many of them and so loooooong but it was a few weeks back. It was either that or some other forum, i honestly cant remember as it wasnt really a big blow, we adapted and we've always worked with the fact there are spies in bob :P BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon
Sionn Klorgh Minmatar Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:38:00 - [372] Edited by: Sionn Klorgh on 11/10/2006 12:39:53 Quote: LoL only means your not important enough to know it, and i was on TS when it was said so spin another lie plz :P Just drop the innocent act and stop whining about how unfair it is. The game mechanics are there for you as well .. Not our fault your crap at it. It is amusing though. You REALLY needed ASCN to go down to your level to make it all look rosy. I mean, imagine if BOB were the only ones fighting fleet battles without teamspeak spies. That would be bad PR! Geez, imagine if people accused BOB of using an out of game advantage to get kills on the eve forums! The PR nightmare. Hmm..let see..AH I got it! ASCN must do it too. Yes..They must! Really.. Utter desperation. Whatever fellas, I know very well what happens in my gangs. As with my original point, I'm sorry but I still am cynical about associating BOB with fair play. Signing out.
Weebear Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:43:00 - [373] Edited by: Weebear on 11/10/2006 12:43:25 Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Weebear Originally by: Kryztal LoL Fact #1 Cyvok posted screenshots and quoted from our Forums on the ASCN forums. Can you post a link to the thread, as the only quotes I can remember from the BoB forums were taken from the general public board! I would if i had access to your forums, i think it was in one of cyvoks blogs, there are so many of them and so loooooong but it was a few weeks back. It was either that or some other forum, i honestly cant remember as it wasnt really a big blow, we adapted and we've always worked with the fact there are spies in bob :P So it could have been the ASCN forum but could have been some other one, and if it was another one, it was likely not even Cyvok? Cool, I love your definition of FACT!
Auman Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:46:00 - [374] Originally by: Sionn Klorgh It is amusing though. You REALLY needed ASCN to go down to your level to make it all look rosy. I mean, imagine if BOB were the only ones fighting fleet battles without teamspeak spies. That would be bad PR! Geez, imagine if people accused BOB of using an out of game advantage to get kills on the eve forums! The PR nightmare. Hmm..let see..AH I got it! ASCN must do it too. Yes..They must! Really.. Utter desperation. Whatever fellas, I know very well what happens in my gangs. As with my original point, I'm sorry but I still am cynical about associating BOB with fair play. Signing out. It is of course your right to believe we're lying. I'll say it again though. If you think ASCN do not spy on other alliances you are being naive.
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 12:59:00 - [375] Originally by: Weebear Edited by: Weebear on 11/10/2006 12:43:25 Originally by: Kryztal Originally by: Weebear Originally by: Kryztal LoL Fact #1 Cyvok posted screenshots and quoted from our Forums on the ASCN forums. Can you post a link to the thread, as the only quotes I can remember from the BoB forums were taken from the general public board! I would if i had access to your forums, i think it was in one of cyvoks blogs, there are so many of them and so loooooong but it was a few weeks back. It was either that or some other forum, i honestly cant remember as it wasnt really a big blow, we adapted and we've always worked with the fact there are spies in bob :P So it could have been the ASCN forum but could have been some other one, and if it was another one, it was likely not even Cyvok? Cool, I love your definition of FACT! LoL omg way to try and twist it, I told you that Cyvok got info from our Forums where he posted it i cant remember. One of our spies qouted it and showed us the stuff, that spy didnt have access to the intel in question from our forums so im quite sure that he wasnt lying as he showed us the screenshots. That beeing said, i really dont care what you guys think i just found it to be hillarious that you think we play unfair when your own leaders do the same. Let the fighting continue ! BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon
Weebear Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 13:09:00 - [376] Originally by: Kryztal LoL omg way to try and twist it, I told you that Cyvok got info from our Forums where he posted it i cant remember. One of our spies qouted it and showed us the stuff, that spy didnt have access to the intel in question from our forums so im quite sure that he wasnt lying as he showed us the screenshots. That beeing said, i really dont care what you guys think i just found it to be hillarious that you think we play unfair when your own leaders do the same. Let the fighting continue ! What can I say, I'm learning from the best both in and out of game BTW: If you let me know the spy's name, I'll check the threads he was viewing and let you know what it was....
Wulfgard Minmatar The Older Gamers Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 13:10:00 - [377] Lately, these threads have became increasingly boring. You attempt at propaganda is only working on the weak minded. If we lose a few lemmings to your work, then good for us I wonder What happened to your magic spoon from the FA days, you used to spin it with great skills, now you can't deal with these simple facts: - You are the aggressor, but what have you conquered so far? - We are fighting in your home turf - Your offensive has lost its momentum and you are busy playing defense - You won't break ASCN moral by posting and flamming incessantly on these forums. You underestimate the intelligence of our average member. Try harder! - This war is making you lose the respect the Eve communtiy had for you with your incessant forum spammage + flammage. - A true warrior has to follow a code of honor and respect his enemies. You used to, you don't anymore (very disapointing as many players were looking up to you ) - This war is making us stronger. Everyday we learn something about PvP, thanks to you. - You better hope CCP continues to fumble with the nodes, or else our 500bs would be sieging NOL as we speak. - We are taking heavy losses as we jump, lag, node crash, relog and are getting slaughtered without being able to return fire. That accounts for 80% of our loss. But our stand up fights are differents, we match match you 1 to 1 if the lag doesn't interfer. Granted you are still better pvpers than us. You have the experience we are missing (but gaining thanks to you). Another thank you for the good fights and the ones to come. Awesome sigs :)
TWD TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 13:18:00 - [378] Originally by: Cyvok 14) We are Done Complaining BoB cheats, we all know it, we have seen it. I have spent the better part of a week ranting about it. Guys, we cheat (apparently). Anyone mind giving me this "The Headshot Macro" he is talking about?
Alasse Cuthalion TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 13:21:00 - [379] Edited by: Alasse Cuthalion on 11/10/2006 13:21:42 Originally by: Cyvok 14) We are Done Complaining BoB cheats, we all know it, we have all made it up. I have spent the better part of a week lying about it. Fixed.
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 13:23:00 - [380] Originally by: TWD Originally by: Cyvok 14) We are Done Complaining BoB cheats, we all know it, we have seen it. I have spent the better part of a week ranting about it. Guys, we cheat (apparently). Anyone mind giving me this "The Headshot Macro" he is talking about? It's in the inbox of your GM account TWD, although as your playing on TWD for 12 hours a day being an unproductive member of society I'm not sure how long it will take you to log on that account so I can drop it to you via our forums. Oh don't forget you can't use it when other GM's are around and stay off the 'lame node' button at those times as well please. I would write more but mum's calling me for lunch and then I have some Quake to play. Eve Blacklight Style

Alberta Gallente Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 13:47:00 - [381] Originally by: Wulfgard Lately, these threads have became increasingly boring. You attempt at propaganda is only working on the weak minded. If we lose a few lemmings to your work, then good for us I wonder What happened to your magic spoon from the FA days, you used to spin it with great skills, now you can't deal with these simple facts: - You are the aggressor, but what have you conquered so far? - We are fighting in your home turf - Your offensive has lost its momentum and you are busy playing defense - You won't break ASCN moral by posting and flamming incessantly on these forums. You underestimate the intelligence of our average member. Try harder! - This war is making you lose the respect the Eve communtiy had for you with your incessant forum spammage + flammage. - A true warrior has to follow a code of honor and respect his enemies. You used to, you don't anymore (very disapointing as many players were looking up to you ) - This war is making us stronger. Everyday we learn something about PvP, thanks to you. - You better hope CCP continues to fumble with the nodes, or else our 500bs would be sieging NOL as we speak. - We are taking heavy losses as we jump, lag, node crash, relog and are getting slaughtered without being able to return fire. That accounts for 80% of our loss. But our stand up fights are differents, we match match you 1 to 1 if the lag doesn't interfer. Granted you are still better pvpers than us. You have the experience we are missing (but gaining thanks to you). Another thank you for the good fights and the ones to come. Awesome sigs :) ...and it's all just a little bit of history repeating.
BlackRain Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 13:47:00 - [382] Edited by: BlackRain on 11/10/2006 13:47:22 Originally by: Wulfgard - You are the aggressor, but what have you conquered so far? Yes, we started shooting at you. And no, we haven't conquered any space - at least yet. You however started the POS spamming, not us. Quote: - We are fighting in your home turf Which is bad for us... how? So far we have killed a stupidly high amount of ships from your alliance without having to travel 50+ jumps to get a fight. That is usually what our guys like to call "fun". Quote: - Your offensive has lost its momentum and you are busy playing defense You're losing the plot here. If we actually chose the landgrab option, we would do so. We haven't, because we don't have to. It's enough fun as it is right now. Quote: - You won't break ASCN moral by posting and flamming incessantly on these forums. You underestimate the intelligence of our average member. Try harder! So far the only ones who are underestimating the average intelligence of an everyday hobbit-joe are your own leaders. Posting blatant lies and drivel like that is a sign of nothing more than lack of judgement and respect to your own troops. Quote: - This war is making you lose the respect the Eve communtiy had for you with your incessant forum spammage + flammage. omgs, does that mean OrcA and Xirtam won't like BoB anymore? Oh, no.. Wait.. We don't care. Quote: - A true warrior has to follow a code of honor and respect his enemies. You used to, you don't anymore (very disapointing as many players were looking up to you ) I'd say we respect the way you have brought the fight to us. Ask anyone in our alliance, and they will most probably agree. We don't respect your leaders lying, crying like little girls and rolling the responsibility on others when it is quite clear it was them who botched the job in the first place. Quote: - This war is making us stronger. Everyday we learn something about PvP, thanks to you. You are most welcome, dear sir. However, losing way over a thousand ships in such a short time is an event which will in the end measure your ability to absorb losses. I see a dent already, and it will only get worse. Quote: - You better hope CCP continues to fumble with the nodes, or else our 500bs would be sieging NOL as we speak. Please, for the love of God, bring those 500 BS to NOL. It is even closer to the core and you are fun to kill. Please, do this as soon as possible. Quote: - We are taking heavy losses as we jump, lag, node crash, relog and are getting slaughtered without being able to return fire. That accounts for 80% of our loss. But our stand up fights are differents, we match match you 1 to 1 if the lag doesn't interfer. Granted you are still better pvpers than us. You have the experience we are missing (but gaining thanks to you). We have lag too. We crash too. And it's not like every single guy from our fleet would instantly blitz right back in the game when the node goes boom. Last time I suffered a node death, I was staring at a black screen for good 10 minutes before getting back in. And so far without the lag you can't match us even near 1:1. If the nodes would permit, our ability to quickly relay good intel, react to it and split & form detachments, manouver and counter your moves would far outweight basic zerg tactics you boys are using. Quote: Another thank you for the good fights and the ones to come. Thanks goes to you hobbitses aswell. You are the first alliance to actually go proactive in a war against BoB for a long, long time. Props for that, boys and girls. Quote: Awesome sigs :) All hail HostageTaker from BNC! <3 ------------------- -
Raging Lissa	Posted - 2006.10.11 14:11:00 - [383] I am very sorry to dump on the propaganda parade, but being new to eve i decided i wanted to see the truth of it. So i jumped into a shuttle and set waypoints all the way through both ascn and bob space. Now maybe i'm confused, but isnt bob supposed to be located in catch and period basis? if i'm wrong can someone please point me in the right direction because i've now been repeatedly podded by ascn and i have yet to get bob kill mail. I've actually flown directly through the frontline a few times too so i'm a little confused. Or does bob not practice NBSI? I have to admit i havent really been watching while i have autopilot on so i dont know who was in any of the systems i fly through, i just check the kill mail whenever i notice i'm dead... so am i in the wrong neighborhood? where is bob?
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.11 14:16:00 - [384] Originally by: Alberta ...and it's all just a little bit of history repeating. The First Rule of War: Never trust a man who quotes Shirley Bassey.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.11 14:18:00 - [385] Originally by: Raging Lissa I am very sorry to dump on the propaganda parade, but being new to eve i decided i wanted to see the truth of it. So i jumped into a shuttle and set waypoints all the way through both ascn and bob space. Now maybe i'm confused, but isnt bob supposed to be located in catch and period basis? if i'm wrong can someone please point me in the right direction because i've now been repeatedly podded by ascn and i have yet to get bob kill mail. I've actually flown directly through the frontline a few times too so i'm a little confused. Or does bob not practice NBSI? I have to admit i havent really been watching while i have autopilot on so i dont know who was in any of the systems i fly through, i just check the kill mail whenever i notice i'm dead... so am i in the wrong neighborhood? where is bob? Check the Alliance map sticky in this very forum.
Taurequis Waylander 01	Posted - 2006.10.11 14:25:00 - [386] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Alberta ...and it's all just a little bit of history repeating. The First Rule of War: Never trust a man who quotes Shirley Bassey. Thats made my day.
Dr Einkeisel Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 14:42:00 - [387] One second you seem to miss a point here. Where does CCP say that we cannont have more then one char in a corp. So we have a person in BOB who is also in ASCN ? so what nothing agaist the rules there. That person in BOB and ASCN is then GIVEN the right to accsess your alliance forums, and why not he is apart of the ASCN in game alliance. What he chooses to do with the imformation he was GIVEN is his choice. No laws have been broke No ingame rules have been broken. The only thing at fault for this situation is your recruiting policey. So all this talk of brining communications between ASCN members to this forum is pointless. You have a person in your ranks who is willing to pass the imformation to us, that is your problem not ours.
Cyleth Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 14:43:00 - [388] Edited by: Cyleth on 11/10/2006 14:43:35 Originally by: Raging Lissa Edited by: Raging Lissa on 11/10/2006 14:20:21 I am very sorry to dump on the propaganda parade, but being new to eve i decided i wanted to see the truth of it. So i jumped into a shuttle and set waypoints all the way through both ascn and bob space. Now maybe i'm confused, but isnt bob supposed to be located in catch and period basis? if i'm wrong can someone please point me in the right direction because i've now been repeatedly podded by ascn and i have yet to get bob kill mail. I've actually flown directly through the frontline a few times too so i'm a little confused. Or does bob not practice NBSI? I have to admit i havent really been watching while i have autopilot on so i dont know who was in any of the systems i fly through, i just check the kill mail whenever i notice i'm dead... so am i in the wrong neighborhood? where is bob? i suppose i should mention, i have flown directly through the following regions without being bob-podded several times: period basis, delve, querious, khanid, aridia, paragon soul, esoteria, stain, feythabolis, omist, impass, and a few others along the way that i cant find on the map right now. How are you today ASCN alt? Nice try tho. -- Nobody stays behind
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 14:51:00 - [389] Edited by: Waagaa Ktlehr on 11/10/2006 14:51:53 Originally by: Hast Originally by: Sionn Klorgh Rod, I don't want to be draged into these organized BOB circle jerks but let me point out a fact. The simple truth is that you're debating the contents of a blog off the ASCN forums. You guys fight with your people spying on our boards and on our fleets in our teamspeak server. You COULD do without either (or even just one) very easily but you choose to keep the out of game advantage (which you somehow justify as a part of eve). Why? Why do BOB, the almighty PVP force, need to use spies out of game to get advantages inside EVE? Fair fights not your thing perhaps? Thus, I'm sorry if I'm cynical with the rest of ASCN about honest fair play in BOB. ASCN has never used a spy on either enemy TS or forums? Forums for fact, although not many knew ofcourse. :) TS too, but that was XETIC vs CA, so not strictly ASCN. :) - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
BOldMan	Posted - 2006.10.11 14:52:00 - [390] Originally by: TWD Originally by: Cyvok 14) We are Done Complaining BoB cheats, we all know it, we have seen it. I have spent the better part of a week ranting about it. Guys, we cheat (apparently). how?

Raging Lissa	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:03:00 - [391] Sorry to disappoint but i'm not an ascn alt, it would be great if i was because then you could ignore the fact that you couldnt keep a little nooblet like me out of your space, but since ascn was podding me in "your" space maybe you should be worried afterall.
BadManEdmundo Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:08:00 - [392] Originally by: Raging Lissa Sorry to disappoint but i'm not an ascn alt, it would be great if i was because then you could ignore the fact that you couldnt keep a little nooblet like me out of your space, but since ascn was podding me in "your" space maybe you should be worried afterall. Why? Insignificant little twerps don't pop up on my Radar. And I doubt anybody is going to start a hunting gang for a shuttle. Learn how it works before opening your mouth, mind there are people who having been playing for years who can't follow that advice, I'm sure youÆll fit right in.
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:10:00 - [393] The fact that most of us fly with shuttles and rookies ships removed from our overvies must really hurt these alty mc alts.
Raging Lissa	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:17:00 - [394] wow, well i sure just picked a side in the war. thanks for the warm welcome to eve, and i would encourage you to not worry about little old me in my shuttle, i mean, what could i do? pass info to ascn about your locations and movements? Well i'm sure you're such a tactical genius that it wont matter. God forbid someone post honest observations in a public forum, is this where you send the secret police after me in real life? I hope they slaughter you.
Constantine Arcanum Gallente IMPERIAL SENATE Pure.	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:22:00 - [395] Originally by: Raging Lissa wow, well i sure just picked a side in the war. thanks for the warm welcome to eve, and i would encourage you to not worry about little old me in my shuttle, i mean, what could i do? pass info to ascn about your locations and movements? Well i'm sure you're such a tactical genius that it wont matter. God forbid someone post honest observations in a public forum, is this where you send the secret police after me in real life? I hope they slaughter you. You need your corp showing to post in here, go to the forum settings and change it. And this is sooooo gonna get snipped I helped - Cortes What a shiny and lovely place here - Eshtir Well lets make it a party atleast :D -Xorus RAWWWR!11!!1!2 SIG HIJACK!!11!1 I found it first, get orrrfff moiiii laaannnd - Cortes
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:32:00 - [396] Edited by: Nez Perces on 11/10/2006 15:33:19 .. well it seems to me judging from the drivel being spouted by ASCN leadership, that it is the beginning of the end... ASCN will fall. Its just a matter of time now...its a shame because they could have been the big equalizer in the South. I guess nobody knew that the command structure was rotten from within. Mind you..... I've had Cyvok lie to my face when I was a FIX JCoS, during the North vs South period. It was a pretty big lie. I can't say I am overly surprised by anything BoB says about their leadership.
Reite Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:32:00 - [397] Originally by: Raging Lissa wow, well i sure just picked a side in the war. thanks for the warm welcome to eve, and i would encourage you to not worry about little old me in my shuttle, i mean, what could i do? pass info to ascn about your locations and movements? Well i'm sure you're such a tactical genius that it wont matter. God forbid someone post honest observations in a public forum, is this where you send the secret police after me in real life? I hope they slaughter you. Please dont pretend that you hadnt allready picked ur side when u first posted in this thread..
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:45:00 - [398] Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 11/10/2006 15:33:19 .. well it seems to me judging from the drivel being spouted by ASCN leadership, that it is the beginning of the end... ASCN will fall. Its just a matter of time now...its a shame because they could have been the big equalizer in the South. I guess nobody knew that the command structure was rotten from within. Mind you..... I've had Cyvok lie to my face when I was a FIX JCoS, during the North vs South period. It was a pretty big lie. I can't say I am overly surprised by anything BoB says about their leadership. lol ASCN havent lost a single system. BoB have not stated they wish to take a single system. So how have you come to the radical conclusion that they will fall? I think you're getting a little over excited about nothing in particular. Calm down
Captain Nephi	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:46:00 - [399] snip Please post with your main -Eldo
Cmd Woodlouse Solidline Enterprise Kith of Venal	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:49:00 - [400] Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 11/10/2006 15:33:19 .. well it seems to me judging from the drivel being spouted by ASCN leadership, that it is the beginning of the end... thats nothing new, back in the days G was accused by ASCN-UBER-INTEL-Cyvok (via Alliance Mail, lol) that they are griefers, exploiters and ebil macrominers -------------------------------- Spain ftw!

Rikeka Amarr Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:52:00 - [401] Nez, you keep taking the word of a stranger over another stranger? You know this guys (by CYVOK/and the BoB`s)? In person? Dude, if you have something against ASCN, just say it, and keep posting. You have the corp ticket, so you can post all you want. I personally enjoy your posts, even though it`s obvious you are biased (said as respectfully as possible) Yeah, sure ASCN PR is non-existant. But, damn, just say what you REALLY want! Come on... you know you want to do it... ¿I HATE ASCN! I WANT BOB TO WIN!¿ Dude, it`s a game. And if all this posters have shown us something is exactly that: It`s a game. So as it is a game, you are free to do anything it takes to win. On a side-note, what you though when BOB said they had no TS spies? I actually believed it, honest. (asking because I did not saw your response when it was shown it was not true) I know this post may sound anti-BOB... and it is. Sorta. I just don`t like the extremes. It`s a funny game with spaceships who capitalizes on Star Wars/Sci Fi fans or people take it too seriously (like the Trekkies, damn them)? ¿Seen¿ people from both sides of the ¿conflict¿ talking ****, so I guess both sides have their stupid share of people. That is as neutral I can be. Considering the amount of crapload of crapload of crapload of stupidities I keep reading here from some... posters, that is a miracle.
Reite Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:59:00 - [402] Originally by: Rikeka Nez, you keep taking the word of a stranger over another stranger? You know this guys (by CYVOK/and the BoB`s)? In person? Dude, if you have something against ASCN, just say it, and keep posting. You have the corp ticket, so you can post all you want. I personally enjoy your posts, even though it`s obvious you are biased (said as respectfully as possible) Yeah, sure ASCN PR is non-existant. But, damn, just say what you REALLY want! Come on... you know you want to do it... ¿I HATE ASCN! I WANT BOB TO WIN!¿ Dude, it`s a game. And if all this posters have shown us something is exactly that: It`s a game. So as it is a game, you are free to do anything it takes to win. On a side-note, what you though when BOB said they had no TS spies? I actually believed it, honest. (asking because I did not saw your response when it was shown it was not true) I know this post may sound anti-BOB... and it is. Sorta. I just don`t like the extremes. It`s a funny game with spaceships who capitalizes on Star Wars/Sci Fi fans or people take it too seriously (like the Trekkies, damn them)? ¿Seen¿ people from both sides of the ¿conflict¿ talking ****, so I guess both sides have their stupid share of people. That is as neutral I can be. Considering the amount of crapload of crapload of crapload of stupidities I keep reading here from some... posters, that is a miracle. Come on. Its not like you guys got a much bigger numbers of biased people who are flaming bob in every thread for every reason they can think off. Like butter dog.
Raging Lissa Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:59:00 - [403] Eido, This is my main!
PhannJodoxis Minmatar Lynx Frontier Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 15:59:00 - [404] When I returned to this game not too long ago I didnt even who BoB was. Through the actions of many of BoB's most visible members it has not be difficult to learn to dispise them. This great annomosity for BoB hinges in No way on the 'propaganda' of ASCN leadership. Hence, BoB's constant attempts to interject its views into ASCN's internal dialog, so that the 4k ASCN members see both sides to the story, has no bearing on my heart felt disgust for BoB's modus operandi. Yes, your arrogance and endless propoganda etc. has been enough to accomplish that. As to the content of ASCN's internal dialog: There is much reason in it. You do not wish to see events from our perspective, and that is fine... but, for example, nodes HAVE gone down and BoB HAS eliminated many of our ships upon us logging back in. Did BoB bring down the node to facilitate said end? No, imo. Yet, that kind of internal conversation has little impact on anything. Rank and file ASCN members like me really like ASCN, we do not like BoB, we were aggressed, and we are fighting back. And of course we are ****ed off when we log in multiple times to get picked apart by the BoB already sitting there. Of course ASCN leadership is going to address those losses, and truthfully say hey, keep fighting that was all bull#$%^. Why is this internal dialog bothering BoB so much? Honestly I dont think it is. BoB see it as merely fuel for more of their public propoganda ends - and we all know the rest. Regarding the ASCN leadership. Acting upon standard elementary propoganda BoB seeks to convince the entire EVE community that because "they are laughing" at these guys, everyone else including the ASCN membership should also not be taking them seriously. Wouldnt that be a nice if ASCN members didnt listen to their leaders? Oh, wouldnt that help BoB? There is a surprise. Guess what, we have nothing but respect for our high command. ASCN is very strong in all of the many areas it has focused on in large part thanks to these guys. There is absolutely no reason for me explain further.. the fact is there are no doubts that we will continue rolling gladly. This has been good.
ceaon Gallente Porandor	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:09:00 - [405] Edited by: ceaon on 11/10/2006 16:09:12 Originally by: Raging Lissa Eido, This is my main! the rule dunno if u get it but u from a NPC corp and the NPC corps belong to a empire and here is player alliance/corp forum only kill alt post thx
Cmd Groz The Older Gamers Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:17:00 - [406] I agree that it is completely ridiculous for ASCN to claim you are deliberately crashing nodes. But its propaganda, isnt it. Its fairly harmless as they keep it on a private board. If they had claimed that publically, you would have an arguement. But ASCN have kept their opinions private - unlike you guys. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No, it isn't. It's a shame you weren't around for the GNW, BD, because what you've seen so far is kindergarten stuff in comparison. CCP allowed it then and they will allow it now. It was just as valid then, as it is now and, what's even more funny, is that many in ASCN applauded the tactic at the time - yet now they lambast and are surprised BoB still do it because it is directed at them? Hypocrisy ftw. So....I guess this is a Admission that BOB does use node crashes as a tactic in battle?
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:18:00 - [407] Edited by: Nez Perces on 11/10/2006 16:19:24 Originally by: Rikeka Come on... you know you want to do it... ¿I HATE ASCN! I WANT BOB TO WIN!¿ Tbh I don't really care wether BoB win or not... and until this war started I wouldn't have minded if ASCN had taken BoB out....I think its nice what ASCN have built in the south.. all those outposts etc.. etc.. but... Cyvok saying that he would crash nodes to save his bacon.. (although later retracted), the horrendous JohnMcreedy blogs we saw a glimpse of when the war just started.. and now further blogs of Cyvok and John writing off their military failure in Tpar to the fact that BoB pilots have no RL and that they are exploiting.. is frankly a disgrace. And if that is what the leadership is like..then ASCN isnt a beacon of light in deep 0.0, it is not an entity that new players should be looking up to as the biggest alliance in the game. Cyvok and co. by the tone of what has been said by, are breeding a rat ship in the south. And its going to sink...BoB or no BoB.
Rikeka Amarr Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:22:00 - [408] Originally by: Reite Originally by: Rikeka Nez, you keep taking the word of a stranger over another stranger? You know this guys (by CYVOK/and the BoB`s)? In person? Dude, if you have something against ASCN, just say it, and keep posting. You have the corp ticket, so you can post all you want. I personally enjoy your posts, even though it`s obvious you are biased (said as respectfully as possible) Yeah, sure ASCN PR is non-existant. But, damn, just say what you REALLY want! Come on... you know you want to do it... ¿I HATE ASCN! I WANT BOB TO WIN!¿ Dude, it`s a game. And if all this posters have shown us something is exactly that: It`s a game. So as it is a game, you are free to do anything it takes to win. On a side-note, what you though when BOB said they had no TS spies? I actually believed it, honest. (asking because I did not saw your response when it was shown it was not true) I know this post may sound anti-BOB... and it is. Sorta. I just don`t like the extremes. It`s a funny game with spaceships who capitalizes on Star Wars/Sci Fi fans or people take it too seriously (like the Trekkies, damn them)? ¿Seen¿ people from both sides of the ¿conflict¿ talking ****, so I guess both sides have their stupid share of people. That is as neutral I can be. Considering the amount of crapload of crapload of crapload of stupidities I keep reading here from some... posters, that is a miracle. Come on. Its not like you guys got a much bigger numbers of biased people who are flaming bob in every thread for every reason they can think off. Like butter dog. Touche. On my defense, I DID said that both sides suck on their PR. Butter Dog, dude. Thanks. But no thanks. Let it die. I even agree with some of the stuff you said. And yes, I hate it when they reply with just one sentence, they think they`ve have answered the question, and the eve-community throws them their women. But if you know you are right, leave it like that. Please, let this issue die. Hell, let them just talk between themselves.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:22:00 - [409] Originally by: Cmd Groz I agree that it is completely ridiculous for ASCN to claim you are deliberately crashing nodes. But its propaganda, isnt it. Its fairly harmless as they keep it on a private board. If they had claimed that publically, you would have an arguement. But ASCN have kept their opinions private - unlike you guys. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No, it isn't. It's a shame you weren't around for the GNW, BD, because what you've seen so far is kindergarten stuff in comparison. CCP allowed it then and they will allow it now. It was just as valid then, as it is now and, what's even more funny, is that many in ASCN applauded the tactic at the time - yet now they lambast and are surprised BoB still do it because it is directed at them? Hypocrisy ftw. ----------------------- So....I guess this is a Admission that BOB does use node crashes as a tactic in battle? Eerh, no ? Do I have to explain the english language to you ? "No it isn't" refers to the earlier posted "Its fairly harmless", and "CCP allowed it" would be referring to us taking apart ASCN internal lunacy on these forums instead of in private. There's no reference to node crashes or sploits in there. But then again, some of you guys seem to ahve remarkable abilities when it comes to drawing baseless conclusions, so I guess we shouldn't be surprised. Old blog
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:26:00 - [410] ... and also ASCN told a bareface lie on the map thread about Period Basis being contested via their respresentative ... SamuraiJack... and that REALLY ****es me off....

R'adeh Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:46:00 - [411] Originally by: Nez Perces ... and also ASCN told a bareface lie on the map thread about Period Basis being contested via their respresentative ... SamuraiJack... and that REALLY ****es me off.... Here, have a tissue So PB isn't contested...but Paragon Soul is? BoB coming to PS ends up with PS showing as contested, ASCN coming to PB doesn't? Great logic Not that I care about maps 'n stuff, I'm more into women... __________________________________________________ My views are my own and I don't represent my corp. Please show mercy Drakma!
Rikeka Amarr Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:48:00 - [412] Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 11/10/2006 16:19:24 Originally by: Rikeka Come on... you know you want to do it... ¿I HATE ASCN! I WANT BOB TO WIN!¿ Tbh I don't really care wether BoB win or not... and until this war started I wouldn't have minded if ASCN had taken BoB out....I think its nice what ASCN have built in the south.. all those outposts etc.. etc.. but... Cyvok saying that he would crash nodes to save his bacon.. (although later retracted), the horrendous JohnMcreedy blogs we saw a glimpse of when the war just started.. and now further blogs of Cyvok and John writing off their military failure in Tpar to the fact that BoB pilots have no RL and that they are exploiting.. is frankly a disgrace. And if that is what the leadership is like..then ASCN isnt a beacon of light in deep 0.0, it is not an entity that new players should be looking up to as the biggest alliance in the game. Cyvok and co. by the tone of what has been said by, are breeding a rat ship in the south. And its going to sink...BoB or no BoB. So you actually don`t like how they (as ASCN) handle their matters? Their own matters? Again, do you take for granted whatever BOB says? Because, I mean, I hope you have access to the ASCN forums and read all that for yourself. Not saying that stuff exist or does not exist. CYVOK could have very deleted the whole thing, come here and say: CYVOK: That does not exist. Blacklight: Yes it does, here it is... Oh checks was deleted CYVOK: See? Blacklight: You took it out! Cheater! CYVOK: jedi mind trick LOL, just for fun. Anyway, had this happened who would you have believed? They are strangers to you. Honestly, I DO think you have made up your mind about ASCN, and nothing I do/say will change that. Fine, as I enjoy writing this crap on this crap section of this crappy forum as much as you do. If there`s one thing I totally disagree with you it`s on the ¿People, fight only 20 vs 20 battles and that will help the community!¿ Commendable, but impractical. Better nerf alliances, only let them have 200 members top! Damn... sidetracked. Sorry. Anyway, you`ve been on ASCN back since then. Now I hear you have something from CYVOK, from 6 moths ago? (read it somewhere, dunno)... Look, jusr repeat with me: I HATE ASCN I HATE CYVOK! ASCN`S FAULT THE COMMUNITY CAN`T PLAY THE GAME! I HATE ASCN! I HATE CYVOK! ASCN`S FAULT THE... and so on. Will repeat my mantra in the meantime: I HATE BOB! STAR WARS OWN STAR TREK! KHAAAAAAAAAAN! I JOINED DOGBERT`S NEWSLETTER FOR THE ELITE! KHAAAAAAAAAAAAN! I HATE THE PEOPLE THAT TAKE A GAME TOO SERIOUSLY, HATE IT MORE WHEN THEY LIE TO ME IN THE FACE! I HATE THAT ASCN HAS NOT UPGRADED THEIR FORUMS AND THEIR TS AS THEIR IS A WAY THEY CAN AVOID BOB SPIES BY ASKING CCP mumble, mumble... IN THE MEANTIME; WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE NAME OF THE NOOBIE LAWYER WHO SAID THE STUPID THING ABOUT VIRTUAL OWNERSHIP WHEN THIS FIRST HAPPENED... Disclaimer: Damn, forget that last part as I`m not really sure nor serious about it Anyway, hope to see you more of your interesting points of view on matters that deserve true grey matter, and not quake-like fingers as many here seem to have... Mind you, on my firm we play Quake, associates against partners. There`s no age for Quake (unless you have arthritis) (sp?)
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:49:00 - [413] Edited by: Nez Perces on 11/10/2006 16:50:29 Originally by: R'adeh Here, have a tissue So PB isn't contested...but Paragon Soul is? BoB coming to PS ends up with PS showing as contested, ASCN coming to PB doesn't? Great logic Not that I care about maps 'n stuff, I'm more into women... look you baffoon.... when Paragon Soul got contested by mistake.. it was pointed out to Joshua.. infact Dbpreacher confirmed it also and said that there was no contesting going on in PS. Joshua jumped the gun slightly and it got corrected... now remove your foot from your mouth, it must be very hairy.. seeing as you are a hobbit and all... [edit:typo]
BadManEdmundo Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:49:00 - [414] Originally by: R'adeh So PB isn't contested...but Paragon Soul is? BoB coming to PS ends up with PS showing as contested, ASCN coming to PB doesn't? Great logic Not that I care about maps 'n stuff, I'm more into women... Paragon Soul is contested, where does it say that?
Rikeka Amarr Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:50:00 - [415] Edited by: Rikeka on 11/10/2006 16:51:43 Originally by: Nez Perces ... and also ASCN told a bareface lie on the map thread about Period Basis being contested via their respresentative ... SamuraiJack... and that REALLY ****es me off.... Looks for BOB`s POS in PS, to further correct the map, of course. Nez here will help me on be fair for both sides, right? [EDIT]Checks the issue was cleared, but as I never edit what I write, this stays[EDIT]
HuDDy Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:52:00 - [416] Quote: ASCN havent lost a single system. BoB have not stated they wish to take a single system. So how have you come to the radical conclusion that they will fall? I think you're getting a little over excited about nothing in particular. Calm down Butter have u ever been in a alliance v alliance War YOURSELF? most conflicts end because the other sides morale breaks not because of not bein able to field fleets of bs or because u have no stations left. And i know for a fact Nez knows alot about this being once a high rankin memeber of Fix's Council and a JCOS and havin taken part in many conflicts how about u?
Earthan Gallente GREY COUNCIL	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:13:00 - [417] No idea about your war guys but been browsing this thread to read all the bob star wars sigs, lol great stuff bob. - A knight in space,war veteran,Grey Council military officer. Grey Council webpage
CLEISTHENES2 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:16:00 - [418] Edited by: CLEISTHENES2 on 11/10/2006 17:16:04 Originally by: Earthan No idea about your war guys but been browsing this thread to read all the bob star wars sigs, lol great stuff bob. Earthan <3. Long time no see, when you coming to the Dark Side .
Earthan Gallente GREY COUNCIL	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:19:00 - [419] Edited by: Earthan on 11/10/2006 17:20:17 hi clesit thanks say hi to all BNC from me. anyway not derailing this thread anymore, continue your forums wars plz:) - A knight in space,war veteran,Grey Council military officer. Grey Council webpage
Drakma Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:21:00 - [420] Can I be included in your Delusional Leaders List? Us Delusional Leaders need to stick together. By the way, you BoB posters are funny.

Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:51:00 - [421] Originally by: welsh wizard Remember, on the internet 2 + 2 = 5. .. indeedy.. this would explain Celes' invitation to Fountain. Comeon wizard, Celes better than most know what losing face on the forums means.... its bad very bad.
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.11 17:58:00 - [422] Edited by: welsh wizard on 11/10/2006 17:59:07 Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: welsh wizard Remember, on the internet 2 + 2 = 5. .. indeedy.. this would explain Celes' invitation to Fountain. Comeon wizard, Celes better than most know what losing face on the forums means.... its bad very bad. Aslong as we're safe in the knowledge that we're better than our foes we're not concerned. Only two corps have ever come out better against us over the course of a campaign and they're probably our closest allies, E-R and Toxin (at the time BA). Come and give us a schooling on the battlefield and maybe we'll give a crap about your opinion. Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:00:00 - [423] Originally by: welsh wizard Aslong as we're safe in the knowledge that we're better than our foes we're not concerned. Only two corps have ever come out better against us over the course of a campaign and they're probably our closest allies, E-R and Toxin (at the time BA). Come and give us a schooling on the battlefield and maybe we'll give a crap about your opinion. ... well done.. you defended your corp on the forums. Its normal.. how you expect ASCN not to do the same is very perplexing.
thoth foc Destructive Influence	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:04:00 - [424] Originally by: welsh wizard Edited by: welsh wizard on 11/10/2006 17:59:07 Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: welsh wizard Remember, on the internet 2 + 2 = 5. .. indeedy.. this would explain Celes' invitation to Fountain. Comeon wizard, Celes better than most know what losing face on the forums means.... its bad very bad. Aslong as we're safe in the knowledge that we're better than our foes we're not concerned. Only two corps have ever come out better against us over the course of a campaign and they're probably our closest allies, E-R and Toxin (at the time BA). Come and give us a schooling on the battlefield and maybe we'll give a crap about your opinion. I remember a "celes is closing down" announcement, and screenies of celes members mining after BOS wardec'd u >: )
Nira Li Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:04:00 - [425] hmm wonder how long this will take tbh, after fighting both CA and PA eve was so boring and now I got a third big war to be in, I personally hope this war will take sometime and not end as the Xetic war And what's with all the Celes loving we get? You should join ASCN you mean forum wariors (or at least give them a FC or two) You Will Cry My Name
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:07:00 - [426] Originally by: HuDDy Butter have u ever been in a alliance v alliance War YOURSELF? Several, thank you. We all need somone free of Alliance constraints to post liberally on the forums, after all. Who my other characters are, clearly you have no idea I have to say though, EVE is boring me of late. Node issues, a lack of challenge, call it what you will. I havent logged in on ANY of my characters much over the past few weeks. The forums are frankly more fun than the game right now.
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:08:00 - [427] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: welsh wizard Edited by: welsh wizard on 11/10/2006 17:59:07 Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: welsh wizard Remember, on the internet 2 + 2 = 5. .. indeedy.. this would explain Celes' invitation to Fountain. Comeon wizard, Celes better than most know what losing face on the forums means.... its bad very bad. Aslong as we're safe in the knowledge that we're better than our foes we're not concerned. Only two corps have ever come out better against us over the course of a campaign and they're probably our closest allies, E-R and Toxin (at the time BA). Come and give us a schooling on the battlefield and maybe we'll give a crap about your opinion. I remember a "celes is closing down" announcement, and screenies of celes members mining after BOS wardec'd u ..... ok, and...... Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:09:00 - [428] Originally by: dabster Cant believe this rant of crap isnt locked yet. ----------------- Victory or death! ... knitting is also an option.
thoth foc Destructive Influence	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:10:00 - [429] Originally by: welsh wizard Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: welsh wizard Edited by: welsh wizard on 11/10/2006 17:59:07 Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: welsh wizard Remember, on the internet 2 + 2 = 5. .. indeedy.. this would explain Celes' invitation to Fountain. Comeon wizard, Celes better than most know what losing face on the forums means.... its bad very bad. Aslong as we're safe in the knowledge that we're better than our foes we're not concerned. Only two corps have ever come out better against us over the course of a campaign and they're probably our closest allies, E-R and Toxin (at the time BA). Come and give us a schooling on the battlefield and maybe we'll give a crap about your opinion. I remember a "celes is closing down" announcement, and screenies of celes members mining after BOS wardec'd u ..... ok, and...... ah.. sorry isnt it convient to point out you lost regularly to corp you dont mention.. i'll remember that for next time >: )
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:17:00 - [430] Edited by: welsh wizard on 11/10/2006 18:20:57 Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: welsh wizard Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: welsh wizard Edited by: welsh wizard on 11/10/2006 17:59:07 Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: welsh wizard Remember, on the internet 2 + 2 = 5. .. indeedy.. this would explain Celes' invitation to Fountain. Comeon wizard, Celes better than most know what losing face on the forums means.... its bad very bad. Aslong as we're safe in the knowledge that we're better than our foes we're not concerned. Only two corps have ever come out better against us over the course of a campaign and they're probably our closest allies, E-R and Toxin (at the time BA). Come and give us a schooling on the battlefield and maybe we'll give a crap about your opinion. I remember a "celes is closing down" announcement, and screenies of celes members mining after BOS wardec'd u ..... ok, and...... ah.. sorry isnt it convient to point out you lost regularly to corp you dont mention.. i'll remember that for next time You're trying to imply that our corp took time out last summer because of BOS? As good as BOS were (by far the best of the .5.) I can assure you they had nothing to do with our temporary break. Remember this thoth, we live for pvp. Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.

Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:17:00 - [431] I have no idea what thoth is going on about. But I will wage some random emote icons upon him anyway ----------------- Victory or death! ... knitting is also an option.
HuDDy Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:18:00 - [432] Edited by: HuDDy on 11/10/2006 18:18:12 Quote: Several, thank you. Ok well did'nt seem it with some of your post's probably haven't had access to the higher levels of alliances or your VERY naive. care to mention what alliances wars you've been in?
Gungankllr Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:26:00 - [433] Edited by: Gungankllr on 11/10/2006 18:26:50 This thread needs more cowbell. Hidden in this signature is a secret message. Send me isk, Caracals cost money.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:33:00 - [434] Originally by: HuDDy Edited by: HuDDy on 11/10/2006 18:18:12 Quote: Several, thank you. Ok well did'nt seem it with some of your post's probably haven't had access to the higher levels of alliances or your VERY naive. care to mention what alliances wars you've been in? Why don't you give me your RL email and I'll send you the log-in screens of all my characters and you can see for yourself... or... maybe not. Nothing about my posts is 'naive', if you feel it is, tell me exactly what and we can discuss it. That is, after all, the point of a discussion forum. Try it for a change, or is low level flaming all that you are capable of?
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:09:00 - [435] Does that mean Butter Dog is an alt then? Because if it does you are simply not allowed to post on these forums as per the alts rule. I'll make sure our GM's and Dev's look into this immediately. Thanks for bringing that to my notice. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:13:00 - [436] Originally by: Nira Li hmm wonder how long this will take tbh, after fighting both CA and PA eve was so boring and now I got a third big war to be in, I personally hope this war will take sometime and not end as the Xetic war And what's with all the Celes loving we get? You should join ASCN you mean forum wariors (or at least give them a FC or two) It seems to be very much a two way relationship going by the content of practically every celes thread ever made. We should all get on a vent server and have cyber love. Only lodhi would go too far and we would all puke ----------------- Victory or death! ... knitting is also an option.
Raging Lissa Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:25:00 - [437] Originally by: Plan Neun Any "neutral" observer that can give any info on how combat progress exept for parties involved? I share an account with my husband but (heres a shocker) I have my own brain so I will post as myself because the rules say I should.
Hast Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:37:00 - [438] Originally by: Plim Originally by: Nira Li hmm wonder how long this will take tbh, after fighting both CA and PA eve was so boring and now I got a third big war to be in, I personally hope this war will take sometime and not end as the Xetic war And what's with all the Celes loving we get? You should join ASCN you mean forum wariors (or at least give them a FC or two) It seems to be very much a two way relationship going by the content of practically every celes thread ever made. We should all get on a vent server and have cyber love. Only lodhi would go too far and we would all puke I'll keep ♥Lodhi♥ busy Sig is not eve related - please see the RULES - Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc ([email protected]) Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
Remmington Daniels Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:38:00 - [439] Edited by: Remmington Daniels on 11/10/2006 19:38:31 Quote: Sig is not eve related - please see the RULES - Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc ([email protected]) Did ASCN cry over this? ----------------- My sig is eve related. Does not troll and is pretty cool.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:39:00 - [440] Originally by: DB Preacher Does that mean Butter Dog is an alt then? Because if it does you are simply not allowed to post on these forums as per the alts rule. I'll make sure our GM's and Dev's look into this immediately. Thanks for bringing that to my notice. dbp No, he is the main character on the account from which I am posting Funny, though.

Rikeka Amarr Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:49:00 - [441] Edited by: Rikeka on 11/10/2006 19:53:21 Originally by: Remmington Daniels Edited by: Remmington Daniels on 11/10/2006 19:38:31 Quote: Sig is not eve related - please see the RULES - Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc ([email protected]) Did ASCN cry over this? Krystal lost her`s too. Guess they (by mods) are taking them out one by one. Just read the rules, and though the sigs touch point 3, I`ll just say ¿Hmm...¿
Gungankllr Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:09:00 - [442] I'm guessing more like everyone switched to these new sigs, which broke the rules because they really didn't have anything to do with Eve. Compound that with how often you see folks bearing those sigs running around in the most heavily moderated threads and the result is pretty obvious. And while we're at it, I almost ran out of gas today going to the market. I think somebody from BoB hacked my account, got my home address and siphoned fuel out of my car. That's how far some of these accusations are stretching, on BOTH sides. How about we all try and act a little less juvenile. Hidden in this signature is a secret message. Send me isk, Caracals cost money.
thoth foc Destructive Influence	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:16:00 - [443] Originally by: welsh wizard You're trying to imply that our corp took time out last summer because of BOS? As good as BOS were (by far the best of the .5.) I can assure you they had nothing to do with our temporary break. Remember this thoth, we live for pvp. Internal blah blah blah.. Well on that note, i'll let you get back to ur "OMG COME HELP US IN FOUTAIN" campaign >: )

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Lodhi Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:10:00 - [445] Originally by: Hast Originally by: Plim Originally by: Nira Li hmm wonder how long this will take tbh, after fighting both CA and PA eve was so boring and now I got a third big war to be in, I personally hope this war will take sometime and not end as the Xetic war And what's with all the Celes loving we get? You should join ASCN you mean forum wariors (or at least give them a FC or two) It seems to be very much a two way relationship going by the content of practically every celes thread ever made. We should all get on a vent server and have cyber love. Only lodhi would go too far and we would all puke I'll keep ♥Lodhi♥ busy I love ya both ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
Remmington Daniels Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:17:00 - [446] Originally by: Plim I have no idea what thoth is going on about. But I will wage some random emote icons upon him anyway Post of the day ----------------- My sig is eve related. Does not troll and is pretty cool.
thoth foc Destructive Influence	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:20:00 - [447] Originally by: Remmington Daniels Originally by: Plim I have no idea what thoth is going on about. But I will wage some random emote icons upon him anyway Post of the day he's seen me with an awp.. he knows it's a good bet >: )
teapa	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:49:00 - [448] New videos of the battle of ASCN and BOB http://myeve.eve-online.com/download/videos/Default.asp?type=5&order=0 nice one
Alasse Cuthalion TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:51:00 - [449] Edited by: Alasse Cuthalion on 11/10/2006 22:52:10 Originally by: teapa New videos of the battle of ASCN and BOB http://myeve.eve-online.com/download/videos/Default.asp?type=5&order=0 nice one DO NOT CLICK THIS LINK It's a phishing attempt, entering your details in this link will send them to some nawty *****. Sig is not eve related - please see the RULES - Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc ([email protected])
Durethia Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:53:00 - [450] Originally by: teapa New videos of the battle of ASCN and BOB http://myeve.eve-online.com/download/videos/Default.asp?type=5&order=0 nice one That is NOT a valid URL for CCP or EVE-ONLINE. Do NOT enter in login information into that URL. Not to mention, the wget of the original site neglected cross browser compatibility so it's painfully obvious if you use more than one browser; while the real EVE-ONLINE looks good in most browsers. I request ISD to investigate the issue and 'teapa' for posting the link.

Lodhi Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:57:00 - [451] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Remmington Daniels Originally by: Plim I have no idea what thoth is going on about. But I will wage some random emote icons upon him anyway Post of the day he's seen me with an awp.. he knows it's a good bet Camping in the spawn with an awp is soo last year
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 23:30:00 - [452] <3 ISD ... just had to say it BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 03:08:00 - [453] Originally by: welsh wizard Edited by: welsh wizard on 11/10/2006 17:49:18 Stop replying to these posts ASCN, make an effort to stop reading them. You'll never 'win' any arguments with these jokers, because no matter how right, wrong or persuasive with your words you are they'll never ever agree with anything you say, ever. Your war effort is far better off without the forums. Remember, on the internet 2 + 2 = 5. edit: guess it works both ways, both sides have members who simpily cannot see reason. Now now wizard , now i am realy dissapointed in ya , though u were more wise than calling us jokers , anyway here is EVE definition for jokers: -In 0.0 you can make tons of isk. -Fountain is an 0.0 region. -Fountain is dangerous and you can get killed but we are still inviting you so u can make some isk and lose it asap. -We are policing the region but in no way we will come to help you coz we are busy ganking solo ships. -We control fountain with absoulutly no staions controled and not even a small tower u can warp to for safty in case u get attacked but hey we are still protecting you. -We are elite pvpeers coz we couldnt stand up to put a proper fleet fight aginst BOB and had to hide behind another pvp corp to engage and won soem engagements which entitels us to win eve. -Our forum spammage rate is above good spechialy on bob posts. -We think ASCN are doing crap but we dare not help them. -We have an intel channel that any alt would have access to it and all info there would be revealed and you would likely be ganked due to intel there than being on ur own , but hey knowledge is power. -We are bored so we are now also extending our invite to Aridia that has same offer as fountain but with an extra bonus which is that we aint even there. Ohh wait , isnt that the summary of Darth solo's quick rich scheme about fountain ? Yup it is. "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
Low Blow Amarr Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 03:18:00 - [454] Your signature is inappropriate ( copyrighted material). Please read the forum rules before reposting- Tirg
Rebellion Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 05:47:00 - [455] Edited by: Rebellion on 12/10/2006 05:50:16 CELES is a corporation that likes to think they are the best. If you talk the talk, you better walk the walk. Go conquer Delve. We will welcome you with open arms. Until then, we'll remember you as a corporation that keeps on making up reasons why they have been in EVE for 4 years and have nothing to call as an achievement. ("We didn't join the alliance tournament because it was designed for BoB to win. waa waa") Oh, sorry, I forgot. You're still the best though. I guess that's enough of an achievement for 4 years. You'll have to excuse us while we fight with the 2nd best alliance: ASCN.
Lord Draco Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 06:15:00 - [456] Edited by: Lord Draco on 12/10/2006 06:16:24 Originally by: Sionn Klorgh Rod, I don't want to be draged into these organized BOB circle jerks but let me point out a fact. The simple truth is that you're debating the contents of a blog off the ASCN forums. You guys fight with your people spying on our boards and on our fleets in our teamspeak server. You COULD do without either (or even just one) very easily but you choose to keep the out of game advantage (which you somehow justify as a part of eve). Why? Why do BOB, the almighty PVP force, need to use spies out of game to get advantages inside EVE? Fair fights not your thing perhaps? Thus, I'm sorry if I'm cynical with the rest of ASCN about honest fair play in BOB. Clearly you need out of game forums/communications for eve. If you're using it for eve, how is not aprt of the game? Btw, where my cls dividend, it seems to be late. I guess since I'm a shareholder in CLS I should be allowed access to everything,correct? Your signature is inappropriate ( copyrighted material). Please read the forum rules before reposting- Tirg
Lord Draco Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 06:36:00 - [457] Edited by: Lord Draco on 12/10/2006 06:39:36 Originally by: Wulfgard That accounts for 80% of our loss. But our stand up fights are differents, we match match you 1 to 1 if the lag doesn't interfer. Shouldn't you be quoting Cryvok when you post his exact words? Oh and thx for petition our sigs, like your efforts so far, it failed.
HordeZla Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 08:06:00 - [458] Originally by: Gungankllr I'm guessing more like everyone switched to these new sigs, which broke the rules because they really didn't have anything to do with Eve. Compound that with how often you see folks bearing those sigs running around in the most heavily moderated threads and the result is pretty obvious. And while we're at it, I almost ran out of gas today going to the market. I think somebody from BoB hacked my account, got my home address and siphoned fuel out of my car. That's how far some of these accusations are stretching, on BOTH sides. How about we all try and act a little less juvenile. My sig was reference node deaths and space yet still I got comunisted. TBH any minor exploits I see I direct to the players CEO for example BM's in cargo holds on t1 frigs (I am not saying I have or have not seen this in this conflict for the record) and so far I have had a good responce. Any way, I am loving this war and I trust all taking part are too and that's the name of the game. But we all are a little childish as after all we are playing computer games. heheh Awaiting a new sig that won't get owned by the mods! Your signature is inappropriate ( copyrighted material). Please read the forum rules before reposting- Tirg
Cyleth Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 08:17:00 - [459] New sig you say? -- Nobody stays behind
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 09:30:00 - [460] Edited by: Darcuese on 12/10/2006 09:36:09 Edited by: Darcuese on 12/10/2006 09:34:46 Edited by: Darcuese on 12/10/2006 09:33:08 Copyrighted material in sigs Omg, I wish these moderatos can join us in this threads more often. Blast of the sig it was...and some "wanna be layer" mod erased it. And you wonder why ppl hate layers...lack of common sence tbh Less BOOKS, MORe WOODS Btw: I wish i could live closer to take this on court. Really want to see that geek who try to gimme this copyright crap to face at court. I guess Outbrake made those faces themself...or other 80% of ppl in EVE. And this one was definatly related with game.. Hmm...of to whine somehwere else Your signature is inappropriate ( copyrighted material). Please read the forum rules before reposting- Tirg

Roxanna Kell BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.12 09:54:00 - [461] According to Cyvok;s 8/10.06 blog, he will Hire as many mercs they can afford. i would link up the blog is its not against forum rules. Quote: "Don't touch the red button!"
Dekiri Useless Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.12 10:00:00 - [462] I hope he hires MC, that would be golden =) -------------- My dad can beat up your dad! Support lowsec!
Zeveron Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.12 10:42:00 - [463] no node crash (thats an improvment CCP) more lag (we r used to it CCP) more BoB cans in space (we r learning BoB) http://eve-files.com/dl/63430 http://eve-files.com/dl/63431 ----------------------------------
Buxaroo Black Dwarf Caldari Deep Space Industral	Posted - 2006.10.12 11:01:00 - [464] Originally by: Gungankllr Edited by: Gungankllr on 11/10/2006 18:26:50 This thread needs more cowbell. God I love that skit! "I want you to explore the room!" Bonk! Bonk! Bonk! Bonk! Bonk!
Mr Monopoly Vigilant Justice	Posted - 2006.10.12 14:15:00 - [465] How long has TCAG-3 Been under ASCN Sovereignty?
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.12 14:22:00 - [466] Originally by: Zeveron no node crash (thats an improvment CCP) more lag (we r used to it CCP) more BoB cans in space (we r learning BoB) http://eve-files.com/dl/63430 http://eve-files.com/dl/63431 About time you guys won an engagement. More of the same please :)
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 14:26:00 - [467] Originally by: Mr Monopoly How long has TCAG-3 Been under ASCN Sovereignty? Ever since they took a large tower meant for deployment in TPAR but stuck in TCAG because of the wholesale slaughter of their fleets and put it up to hide in. ? ... eeehm, that'd be about 5 days then. It's a non-system, only interesting because it's the first system into Period Basis when coming out of Paragon Soul, which again shows nicely how far ASCN got with their invasion. Any other questions ? Old blog
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.12 14:29:00 - [468] Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Mr Monopoly How long has TCAG-3 Been under ASCN Sovereignty? Ever since they took a large tower meant for deployment in TPAR but stuck in TCAG because of the wholesale slaughter of their fleets and put it up to hide in. ? ... eeehm, that'd be about 5 days then. It's a non-system, only interesting because it's the first system into Period Basis when coming out of Paragon Soul, which again shows nicely how far ASCN got with their invasion. Any other questions ? Yes. When did you lose your ability to respond in a polite and reasoned way to the questions of neutral observers, and become as smacktardy as 90% of your alliance on these forums?
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 14:35:00 - [469] He's about as neutral to us as my dog is to cats. thats why the wording was harsh (altho the message correct and true). When we get a question worth a good answer I'll give one. Old blog
Kaiu Hinkledolph and K Associates The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2006.10.12 14:46:00 - [470] Originally by: Rod Blaine When we get a question worth a good answer I'll give one. Ok, can i ask some questions? I'm having a hard time keeping up to date. How about any these... Sirmolle gave a week to evacuate before the threat of taking GQ would be fulfilled.Was it more than 7days ago that this thread was made? If so, have you seen a mass migration/retreat from GQ? Have you taken control of sovereignty from any of ASCNs systems yet? If not, how goes the war effort currently, seems the sovereignty battles for systems are 1-0 in ASCNs favour currently, is this correct? ____________________ MOGarmy

Hackett Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 14:48:00 - [471] Originally by: Butter Dog Yes. When did you lose your ability to respond in a polite and reasoned way to the questions of neutral observers, and become as smacktardy as 90% of your alliance on these forums? Did someone from BOB nick your dinner money, give you a chinese burn and stick your head down the khazi when you were at school? You seem to follow threads revolving around us like flies follow dog-poo. Chill out for gods sake! oO http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9813/evolhackett6ln.gif Please keep your signature below the 24000 bytes limit.- Thx Pirlouit
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 14:58:00 - [472] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 12/10/2006 15:06:00 Ok, you're not exactly neutral either, but I'll play this time. Originally by: Kaiu ** Sirmolle gave a week to evacuate before the threat of taking GQ would be fulfilled.Was it more than 7days ago that this thread was made? He said the offer lasted a week, not that there was any threath to be carried out at the end of it. Maybe that was implied, but seeing how we are human too you can guess that if there were any plans to actually take it they've been delayed now. And yes, that would in that case be partly due to the agressive action around TPAR. Wether or not we mind is another question of course. We're fairly flexible and we've got all the time in the world, seeing how we're enjoying ourselves fine at this time. I personally doubt we intended to take G-Q actually, but not being involved in the ebil plannage I wouldn't know of course. Quote: ** If so, have you seen a mass migration/retreat from GQ? Hmm nope, I understand we're about to see a mass-immigration into it rather, which would probably fit our plans nicely I assume, seeing how Molle always seems to end up getting what he wants even if he asks for something totally different. Quote: Have you taken control of sovereignty from any of ASCNs systems yet? Nope, nor have we tried to. If we try you'll notice allright. We don't do half-baked invasions like ASCN did. Quote: If not, how goes the war effort currently, seems the sovereignty battles for systems are 1-0 in ASCNs favour currently, is this correct? Hehe, we haven't tried stopping ASCN from taking TCAG, nor are we going to try and deny it to them. It's wholly uninteresting and worthless after all. I don't think ASCN get the way things work in sovereignty wars really. It would be more logical to actually take the systems that are any use to have rather then adding one station-less dump to your 'empire'. I actually don't know if we had sovereignty over it before they did tbh, probably did since we've got a medium tower for moon mining in there somewhere. Now let me ask you a funny question I just came up with. [ Don't you find it particularly funny and ironic how the one system ASCN now have gained sovereignty in is utterly useless and of no strategic importance ?] [ Don't you find it funny and ironic that this system in question is also the place where ASCN took the majority of the 1300+ losses they took in sieging TPAR and ending up with TCAG ? ] That'll be all, ta ta. edit: some spellage stuff Old blog
Alberta Gallente Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 15:00:00 - [473] Originally by: Kaiu Originally by: Rod Blaine When we get a question worth a good answer I'll give one. Ok, can i ask some questions? I'm having a hard time keeping up to date. How about any these... let's see. Originally by: Kaiu Sirmolle gave a week to evacuate before the threat of taking GQ would be fulfilled.Was it more than 7days ago that this thread was made? Inaccurate there for a start. What the post said was that the offer was open for 7 days, I don't remember a timetable for taking the system being included. Those 7 days have passed though, so I would assume the offer is now closed. It may still be possible for corporations wishing to come to an agreement to do so if they make the effort, the terms however will likely be different. Originally by:** Kaiu Have you taken control of sovereignty from any of ASCNs systems yet? I don't believe so. Originally by:** Kaiu ** If not, how goes the war effort currently, seems the sovereignty battles for systems are 1-0 in ASCNs favour currently, is this correct? I believe you could score it like that if you want to, but the war is going rather well from my perspective.
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 15:04:00 - [474] Actually regarding TCAG we're kinda hoping ASCN will put an outpost up, so we're leaving sov in their hands for now. This sig is Eve related and will be replaced shortly by something cool or funny.
Kaiu Hinkledolph and K Associates The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2006.10.12 15:12:00 - [475] I can't see how i would be considered anything but neutral tbh? We don't have standings with Either ASCN or BOB and have shot at and been shot by both 'sides' in this conflict... Anyway, thank you for the info. I await the mass destruction of GQ ____________________ MOGarmy
End Yourself Core Domination	Posted - 2006.10.12 15:14:00 - [476] Originally by: Blacklight Actually regarding TCAG we're kinda hoping ASCN will put an outpost up, so we're leaving sov in their hands for now. Hehe, who the **** would want an outpost there though? btw kaiu, that "ASCN friendly"-crap in TSDS bios for real or just some kind of "spend few seconds reading my bio while biting the dust retarded hobbit"-trick?!? --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 15:16:00 - [477] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 12/10/2006 15:16:56 Originally by: Kaiu I can't see how i would be considered anything but neutral tbh? Aarh damn, ...well, hardly matters since we do NBSI anyways. Old blog
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.12 15:32:00 - [478] ahh about time i was on the forums again I'm glad bob and ascn are fighting. I missed the big wars in eve 0.0 Gang PvP Recruitment
IntegralHellsing	Posted - 2006.10.12 15:53:00 - [479] Quote: It's wholly uninteresting and worthless after all. hmm just a question. wasn't that what RA was saying about the systems they lost, before? sorry i have a terrible memory and i am still a n00b compared with other people. Quote: Don't you find it particularly funny and ironic how the one system ASCN now have gained sovereignty in is utterly useless and of no strategic importance ? Who knows? we had no solid ground to stand on in BoB territories. BoB could just camp TCAG all day and we would be hampered by the blob as there is only 1 way into the Period Basis area and that 1 way only means that it is easy to keep enemy out. Since we now have control of TCAG (for now...), we can now commense moving stuff into the POS. it would make deployment and recharging the gang force easily as you can just pop into the pos and collect your ships. better than jumping back and forth and sometimes get blown up by gate camp on the way back :P That is what AAA did to HF, although the only differences are that V2-VC2 has station and TCAG doesn't, but AAA could go into HF area easily without being stopped while ASCN had difficulties. also it makes sense, as BoB cannot also deploy forces fast enough. since bob's nearest station is 1 jump away, there is chance of getting caught up by gate camping. (which some BoB inties seemed happy about it.) how many times did bob get blown up trying to clear campers at TPAR gate in TCAG? how long did it take to organize a strategy that would work in theory? also, there are 4 ways (i think) to go to other BoB area. remember that some battles are now taking place outside TCAG and deep in BoB territories. we can now blow up bob industrials. this we were not able to do before. (which bob was able to do from ages ago against ASCN though ) If you have anything to talk about strategic importances, i can give you quite a lot of reason why we are holding onto it. but i'd rather not do that as it gives too much info of our next move. Quote: Don't you find it funny and ironic that this system in question is also the place where ASCN took the majority of the 1300+ losses they took in sieging TPAR and ending up with TCAG ? Yeah we lost ships. so what? we are not a good PvPers (which everyone can tell.) and so we are not good at fleet ops. everyone learns from the losses and mistakes. hell i lost 10 ships + pod in a row when i first started PvPing. (and lost 17 ships + pod while in ISS/HF cuz i didn't get to do some PvP at all.) still i managed to learn more about PvP, and even if i am not as good as any ordinary BoB pilots, i could still pop some ships and that i am proud of it at the moment. so why did we deploy at TCAG where we lost so many ships? because the number of ships lost are not important at the moment. what is important now is that we set foot in bob area for real, and we are ready to commense onto the next step. (not that i would know. but high commanders sure do ) ps. if we just went to TPAR and tried to hold pos there, it would have been impossible to protect at all. 1. bob controlled system between GQ2 and TPAR = people in TPAR cannot get out, and people in GQ2 have difficulties helping people in TPAR. by taking a doorstep of period basis we are now able to get and give help much more faster without much of interfering by bob. i will finish for now. if you have more questions or smacking to do, just don't hesitate to write.
theforce Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.10.12 15:59:00 - [480] Originally by: Kaiu Originally by: Rod Blaine When we get a question worth a good answer I'll give one. Ok, can i ask some questions? I'm having a hard time keeping up to date. How about any these... Sirmolle gave a week to evacuate before the threat of taking GQ would be fulfilled.Was it more than 7days ago that this thread was made? If so, have you seen a mass migration/retreat from GQ? Have you taken control of sovereignty from any of ASCNs systems yet? If not, how goes the war effort currently, seems the sovereignty battles for systems are 1-0 in ASCNs favour currently, is this correct? quick awnsers: no they have not no no yes

Audrea Momentum.	Posted - 2006.10.12 16:13:00 - [481] Originally by: IntegralHellsing ps. if we just went to TPAR and tried to hold pos there, it would have been impossible to protect at all. I think you just answered your own questions lol There is no diffrent between protecting pos in TCAG or TPAR at all.. The only one is what your leadership wants you to believe ------------------ yay, the Deimos has been saved!
End Yourself Core Domination	Posted - 2006.10.12 16:19:00 - [482] Originally by: IntegralHellsing Quote: It's wholly uninteresting and worthless after all. hmm just a question. wasn't that what RA was saying about the systems they lost, before? sorry i have a terrible memory and i am still a n00b compared with other people. Quote: Don't you find it particularly funny and ironic how the one system ASCN now have gained sovereignty in is utterly useless and of no strategic importance ? Who knows? we had no solid ground to stand on in BoB territories. BoB could just camp TCAG all day and we would be hampered by the blob as there is only 1 way into the Period Basis area and that 1 way only means that it is easy to keep enemy out. Since we now have control of TCAG (for now...), we can now commense moving stuff into the POS. it would make deployment and recharging the gang force easily as you can just pop into the pos and collect your ships. better than jumping back and forth and sometimes get blown up by gate camp on the way back :P That is what AAA did to HF, although the only differences are that V2-VC2 has station and TCAG doesn't, but AAA could go into HF area easily without being stopped while ASCN had difficulties. also it makes sense, as BoB cannot also deploy forces fast enough. since bob's nearest station is 1 jump away, there is chance of getting caught up by gate camping. (which some BoB inties seemed happy about it.) how many times did bob get blown up trying to clear campers at TPAR gate in TCAG? how long did it take to organize a strategy that would work in theory? also, there are 4 ways (i think) to go to other BoB area. remember that some battles are now taking place outside TCAG and deep in BoB territories. we can now blow up bob industrials. this we were not able to do before. (which bob was able to do from ages ago against ASCN though ) If you have anything to talk about strategic importances, i can give you quite a lot of reason why we are holding onto it. but i'd rather not do that as it gives too much info of our next move. Quote: Don't you find it funny and ironic that this system in question is also the place where ASCN took the majority of the 1300+ losses they took in sieging TPAR and ending up with TCAG ? Yeah we lost ships. so what? we are not a good PvPers (which everyone can tell.) and so we are not good at fleet ops. everyone learns from the losses and mistakes. hell i lost 10 ships + pod in a row when i first started PvPing. (and lost 17 ships + pod while in ISS/HF cuz i didn't get to do some PvP at all.) still i managed to learn more about PvP, and even if i am not as good as any ordinary BoB pilots, i could still pop some ships and that i am proud of it at the moment. so why did we deploy at TCAG where we lost so many ships? because the number of ships lost are not important at the moment. what is important now is that we set foot in bob area for real, and we are ready to commense onto the next step. (not that i would know. but high commanders sure do ) ps. if we just went to TPAR and tried to hold pos there, it would have been impossible to protect at all. 1. bob controlled system between GQ2 and TPAR = people in TPAR cannot get out, and people in GQ2 have difficulties helping people in TPAR. by taking a doorstep of period basis we are now able to get and give help much more faster without much of interfering by bob. i will finish for now. if you have more questions or smacking to do, just don't hesitate to write. Cyvok jr. trying to make himself look more retarded than daddy?!? Btw better show your ticker or noone else will be able to laugh at the nonsense you just posted soon. --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.12 16:20:00 - [483] Originally by: Rebellion Edited by: Rebellion on 12/10/2006 05:50:16 CELES is a corporation that likes to think they are the best. If you talk the talk, you better walk the walk. Go conquer Delve. We will welcome you with open arms. Until then, we'll remember you as a corporation that keeps on making up reasons why they have been in EVE for 4 years and have nothing to call as an achievement. ("We didn't join the alliance tournament because it was designed for BoB to win. waa waa") Oh, sorry, I forgot. You're still the best though. I guess that's enough of an achievement for 4 years. You'll have to excuse us while we fight with the 2nd best alliance: ASCN. Yes, we think we are among the best at small fleet warfare. As is supported by the vast number of battle statistics on our killboard. However we do not profess to be the best at POS are warfare, industry, shoe making, the long jump, or any of that other gubbins, so it is quite irrelevant. As I have said so many times before, we judge our achievements by what happens on the battlefield. And if you would actually bother to look at the figures, you would know that we rarely lose a fleet fight (the summary of these can be seen on our killboard under the fleet section). So I don't understand why people keep accusing us of not being good at things we really don't give a damn about, or claim to be good at. Consistently beat is with similar numbers and we might think that you have achieved something. ----------------- Victory or death! ... knitting is also an option.
IntegralHellsing	Posted - 2006.10.12 16:26:00 - [484] well i am sure lots of you would laugh at me. but let's find out later to see who is right. ps. laughing at people without any factual knowledge of what is going to happen next will end you up in a death bed. so yeah do whatever you want, let it be trolling around or smirking at posts, but keep an eye on the war and see what happens next. because if i am right about what i wrote, i will be the one laughing at your face so hard that you wish you weren't born. ps2. i am only writing as a lowest ranked member of the ASCN alliance. so plz don't call me CYVOK jr just because you think all the ASCN talk like him
Audrea Momentum.	Posted - 2006.10.12 16:34:00 - [485] Edited by: Audrea on 12/10/2006 16:35:12 Originally by: IntegralHellsing well i am sure lots of you would laugh at me. but let's find out later to see who is right. ps. laughing at people without any factual knowledge of what is going to happen next will end you up in a death bed. so yeah do whatever you want, let it be trolling around or smirking at posts, but keep an eye on the war and see what happens next. because if i am right about what i wrote, i will be the one laughing at your face so hard that you wish you weren't born. ps2. i am only writing as a lowest ranked member of the ASCN alliance. so plz don't call me CYVOK jr just because you think all the ASCN talk like him tbh no one will remember, only you, the people who fought with you and against you, will remember the fun it was.. So just enjoy the war while it lasts PS: And on the forums too! ------------------ yay, the Deimos has been saved!
Marcus Druallis Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2006.10.12 16:39:00 - [486] I thought this war was going to have minimal amounts of smack. BOY was I wrong. Why can't we just keep it civil? -- Originally by: Ghosthowl At what level can i PVP?
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 16:43:00 - [487] Originally by: Marcus Druallis I thought this war was going to have minimal amounts of smack. BOY was I wrong. Why can't we just keep it civil? Fun.
TheLast0ne THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.12 16:50:00 - [488] Edited by: TheLast0ne on 12/10/2006 16:52:32 Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Mr Monopoly How long has TCAG-3 Been under ASCN Sovereignty? Ever since they took a large tower meant for deployment in TPAR but stuck in TCAG because of the wholesale slaughter of their fleets and put it up to hide in. ? ... eeehm, that'd be about 5 days then. It's a non-system, only interesting because it's the first system into Period Basis when coming out of Paragon Soul, which again shows nicely how far ASCN got with their invasion. Any other questions ? Interesting statment. WHo started this war? Why are we fighting in period basis and not in feyth? Interesting. I like Chicken
End Yourself Core Domination	Posted - 2006.10.12 16:55:00 - [489] Originally by: IntegralHellsing well i am sure lots of you would laugh at me. but let's find out later to see who is right. ps. laughing at people without any factual knowledge of what is going to happen next will end you up in a death bed. so yeah do whatever you want, let it be trolling around or smirking at posts, but keep an eye on the war and see what happens next. because if i am right about what i wrote, i will be the one laughing at your face so hard that you wish you weren't born. ps2. i am only writing as a lowest ranked member of the ASCN alliance. so plz don't call me CYVOK jr just because you think all the ASCN talk like him Well first NOONE does KNOW what will happen. And trust me due to the fact that i have been living in both PB and PS for ages i know about strategical importance of the systems down there. Hell you can't even jump capitals into that POS from paragon without a cyno chain going through 5 regions. Blacklight has answered the question why the POS in tcag has not been downed yet(is "easier to defend") allready tbh. Last time it was Fix who removed one link from the cyno chain. I'll do my best to be there in time next time. Don't forget to bring new cyno ships and fuel though. And use better safespots or a station to store them! --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:04:00 - [490] Originally by: TheLast0ne Interesting statment. WHo started this war? Why are we fighting in period basis and not in feyth? Interesting. Not a very interesting reply tbh, but hey, at least it's something I guess. We started this war. We are fighting in Period Basis ? I thought we were fighting in AZN today actually, at least that's where we shot up another of your carriers isn't it ? Not that a single carrier kill will matter in the long run. What will matter is skill at warfare, stamina and unity. And believe me when I tell you we've got those, in portions quite larger then ASCN does. But hey, don't beleive me, hang on abit to find out for yourself. Old blog

Coniglietta Magica Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:04:00 - [491] Edited by: Coniglietta Magica on 12/10/2006 17:04:40 Does it look contested NOW ? ?
Coniglietta Magica Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:05:00 - [492] Does it look contested NOW?
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:07:00 - [493] Originally by: Coniglietta Magica Does it look contested NOW? Haha. Let me put a small pos in some unoccupied system in feythabolis (if there are any) and let's discuss the status of feyth then shall we ? Don't be ridiculous. Old blog
Coniglietta Magica Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:09:00 - [494] Its your pocket puppet that refuses to marke the official alliance map as both feyth and period basis as being contested regions. Though according to his rules us having sov over one of your systems markes the region as contested. Goes to show you there are no neutrals in this war.
End Yourself Core Domination	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:10:00 - [495] Edited by: End Yourself on 12/10/2006 17:10:27 Originally by: Coniglietta Magica Edited by: Coniglietta Magica on 12/10/2006 17:04:40 imagine screenshot here Does it look contested NOW ? ? the tcag system is contested... the sky is falling... Wake up. Open your eyes. That POS is an expensive safespot. Nothing more! Or just believe whatever crap your high command feeds you. --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
thoth foc Destructive Influence	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:10:00 - [496] Originally by: TheLast0ne Edited by: TheLast0ne on 12/10/2006 16:52:32 Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Mr Monopoly How long has TCAG-3 Been under ASCN Sovereignty? Ever since they took a large tower meant for deployment in TPAR but stuck in TCAG because of the wholesale slaughter of their fleets and put it up to hide in. ? ... eeehm, that'd be about 5 days then. It's a non-system, only interesting because it's the first system into Period Basis when coming out of Paragon Soul, which again shows nicely how far ASCN got with their invasion. Any other questions ? Interesting statment. WHo started this war? Why are we fighting in period basis and not in feyth? Interesting. So if you were losing carriers for example in feyth.. would this this suddenly change your view? The war is still very young.. and you should fully expect it to take place all over both our areas.. we did gq2 for a bit, then azn.. lately it has been tcag.. you would be wiser to reguard."were next" as the interesting info >: )
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:11:00 - [497] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 12/10/2006 17:13:57 Originally by: Coniglietta Magica Its your pocket puppet that refuses to marke the official alliance map as both feyth and period basis as being contested regions. Though according to his rules us having sov over one of your systems markes the region as contested. Goes to show you there are no neutrals in this war. Get your rep to put that in the map thread then. As for Josh, he's neutral to us, that means we actually shoot him as a rule. If we don't then that's a personal decision taken because of his status as mapmaker. Old blog
Dark Matter Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:25:00 - [498] Originally by: IntegralHellsing Quote: It's wholly uninteresting and worthless after all. hmm just a question. wasn't that what RA was saying about the systems they lost, before? sorry i have a terrible memory and i am still a n00b compared with other people. Quote: Don't you find it particularly funny and ironic how the one system ASCN now have gained sovereignty in is utterly useless and of no strategic importance ? Who knows? we had no solid ground to stand on in BoB territories. BoB could just camp TCAG all day and we would be hampered by the blob as there is only 1 way into the Period Basis area and that 1 way only means that it is easy to keep enemy out. Since we now have control of TCAG (for now...), we can now commense moving stuff into the POS. it would make deployment and recharging the gang force easily as you can just pop into the pos and collect your ships. better than jumping back and forth and sometimes get blown up by gate camp on the way back :P That is what AAA did to HF, although the only differences are that V2-VC2 has station and TCAG doesn't, but AAA could go into HF area easily without being stopped while ASCN had difficulties. also it makes sense, as BoB cannot also deploy forces fast enough. since bob's nearest station is 1 jump away, there is chance of getting caught up by gate camping. (which some BoB inties seemed happy about it.) how many times did bob get blown up trying to clear campers at TPAR gate in TCAG? how long did it take to organize a strategy that would work in theory? also, there are 4 ways (i think) to go to other BoB area. remember that some battles are now taking place outside TCAG and deep in BoB territories. we can now blow up bob industrials. this we were not able to do before. (which bob was able to do from ages ago against ASCN though ) If you have anything to talk about strategic importances, i can give you quite a lot of reason why we are holding onto it. but i'd rather not do that as it gives too much info of our next move. Quote: Don't you find it funny and ironic that this system in question is also the place where ASCN took the majority of the 1300+ losses they took in sieging TPAR and ending up with TCAG ? Yeah we lost ships. so what? we are not a good PvPers (which everyone can tell.) and so we are not good at fleet ops. everyone learns from the losses and mistakes. hell i lost 10 ships + pod in a row when i first started PvPing. (and lost 17 ships + pod while in ISS/HF cuz i didn't get to do some PvP at all.) still i managed to learn more about PvP, and even if i am not as good as any ordinary BoB pilots, i could still pop some ships and that i am proud of it at the moment. so why did we deploy at TCAG where we lost so many ships? because the number of ships lost are not important at the moment. what is important now is that we set foot in bob area for real, and we are ready to commense onto the next step. (not that i would know. but high commanders sure do ) ps. if we just went to TPAR and tried to hold pos there, it would have been impossible to protect at all. 1. bob controlled system between GQ2 and TPAR = people in TPAR cannot get out, and people in GQ2 have difficulties helping people in TPAR. by taking a doorstep of period basis we are now able to get and give help much more faster without much of interfering by bob. i will finish for now. if you have more questions or smacking to do, just don't hesitate to write. Good luck leaving anything lieing around in an ASCN pos, if it's not nailed down one of your trusted fellow members will walk off with it and sell it at the best price possible in Feythabolis.
TheLast0ne THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:26:00 - [499] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: TheLast0ne Edited by: TheLast0ne on 12/10/2006 16:52:32 Originally by: Rod Blaine Originally by: Mr Monopoly How long has TCAG-3 Been under ASCN Sovereignty? Ever since they took a large tower meant for deployment in TPAR but stuck in TCAG because of the wholesale slaughter of their fleets and put it up to hide in. ? ... eeehm, that'd be about 5 days then. It's a non-system, only interesting because it's the first system into Period Basis when coming out of Paragon Soul, which again shows nicely how far ASCN got with their invasion. Any other questions ? Interesting statment. WHo started this war? Why are we fighting in period basis and not in feyth? Interesting. So if you were losing carriers for example in feyth.. would this this suddenly change your view? The war is still very young.. and you should fully expect it to take place all over both our areas.. we did gq2 for a bit, then azn.. lately it has been tcag.. you would be wiser to reguard."were next" as the interesting info Just stating that your propaganda makes u guys look kinda dumb. But you can keep puting it out while were sitting in ur back yard having a BBQ. I like Chicken
IntegralHellsing Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:34:00 - [500] Originally by: Dark Matter Good luck leaving anything lieing around in an ASCN pos, if it's not nailed down one of your trusted fellow members will walk off with it and sell it at the best price possible in Feythabolis. oh yeah... forgot about that. thanks for the info ps. don't know how HF managed to keep any ships in POS at all. people in HF had good hearts not to steal other people's ship i guess In the Deepest Shadows of Darkness, I give Hope. In the Highest Bright of Light, I give Fear. I am a Being of Balanced Life. I am an Angel and Demon. I am an Ascendant and Fallen. I am a Human.

Gabriel BriGGs Port Royal Independent Kontractors Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:35:00 - [501] ha, kinda fun to see bob and ascn doin the forum thing on eachother.usually it was g/iron/d2 vs bob/ascn on the boards ^^ i was down south for a week and dindt even know there was a war going on :O
Kcel Chim Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:36:00 - [502] Originally by: TheLast0ne Just stating that your propaganda makes u guys look kinda dumb. But you can keep puting it out while were sitting in ur back yard having a BBQ. Reading the loss section of your KB its not you who are having a bbq its more like you are served at one...
Audrea Momentum.	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:40:00 - [503] Edited by: Audrea on 12/10/2006 17:40:24 Originally by: IntegralHellsing Originally by: Dark Matter Good luck leaving anything lieing around in an ASCN pos, if it's not nailed down one of your trusted fellow members will walk off with it and sell it at the best price possible in Feythabolis. oh yeah... forgot about that. thanks for the info ps. don't know how HF managed to keep any ships in POS at all. people in HF had good hearts not to steal other people's ship i guess We didnt. At first we had force field open to alliance, and after several incidents, we had no choise but close down the force fields of private POSes. To these pos only trusted friends of that corp had the passwords. I participated in many battles, and not once we had POS where whole alliance would leave ships floating 99% of the alliances cant trust on their memebers not to take other's ships, thats why it cant be really done. ------------------ yay, the Deimos has been saved!
Serret Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:45:00 - [504] Edited by: Serret on 12/10/2006 17:45:23 Originally by: TheLast0ne Just stating that your propaganda makes u guys look kinda dumb. But you can keep puting it out while were sitting in ur back yard having a BBQ. I like Chicken Especially dumb when it's your chicken that's being roasted. -- <Deathwing> just say Amarr pwn cause DW is Amarr
Falco Sparverius Gallente THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:46:00 - [505] All of these posts are pointless. The only thing that matters is what happens in game. Words are just that -- words, and they have no bearing whatsoever on the game. Whatever either side says, there is still a long way to go in this war, and noone really knows what the end result will be. All we can do as players is play the game as best we can and have fun, which I intend to continue doing as a member of ASCN for as long as I am able. --- Cry CYVOK and let slip the ducks of war!
IntegralHellsing Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:50:00 - [506] Originally by: Gabriel BriGGs ha, kinda fun to see bob and ascn doin the forum thing on eachother.usually it was g/iron/d2 vs bob/ascn on the boards ^^ You see, yesterday's friends became today's enemy. In the Deepest Shadows of Darkness, I give Hope. In the Highest Bright of Light, I give Fear. I am a Being of Balanced Life. I am an Angel and Demon. I am an Ascendant and Fallen. I am a Human.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.12 17:52:00 - [507] Originally by: Coniglietta Magica Its your pocket puppet that refuses to marke the official alliance map as both feyth and period basis as being contested regions. Though according to his rules us having sov over one of your systems markes the region as contested. Goes to show you there are no neutrals in this war. Correction, Sov on a station system. Claiming some random corner of the universe nobody really cares anout using a POS doesnt count. Of course... bob is once again late with mailing me my check so i am of course open to employment suggestions... ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 18:00:00 - [508] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Coniglietta Magica Its your pocket puppet that refuses to marke the official alliance map as both feyth and period basis as being contested regions. Though according to his rules us having sov over one of your systems markes the region as contested. Goes to show you there are no neutrals in this war. Correction, Sov on a station system. Claiming some random corner of the universe nobody really cares anout using a POS doesnt count. Of course... bob is once again late with mailing me my check so i am of course open to employment suggestions... Cheque in the post including 10% bonus as an apology for late payment, leaving Dian in charge of alliance finances for the lose
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.12 18:02:00 - [509] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 12/10/2006 18:03:51 Dont let it happen again, theres obviously plenty of people interested in your space... They seem rich too... ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 18:12:00 - [510] Originally by: Coniglietta Magica Its your pocket puppet that refuses to marke the official alliance map as both feyth and period basis as being contested regions. Though according to his rules us having sov over one of your systems markes the region as contested. Goes to show you there are no neutrals in this war. This is a funny comment. I've done nothing since the map began except report exactly what is happening whether it be good or bad for BoB. From the taking over of Venal to the loss of Outer Ring and the list goes on and on and on. The ASCN report I made was correct at the time, even stating that ps shouldn't have been contested which it had been accidentally. Of course the ASCN dudes ignored my post and then spilled another page of OMG BIAS against the map reporter without justification. Furthermore, at no point has your elected delegate put forward factual evidence in tardy fashion about what is actually happening in the war. If I didn't know better I'd say that he was simply not playing the game and listening to rumours of what ASCN are supposed to be doing instead of what is actually happening in the war. Basically, if you want the map to be reported correctly then get someone to report the actual happenings in this war. If that is done then I'll happily back up their report providing I agree with the situation. But don't even begin to think about trying to do as every other alliance seems to do when they are losing territory which is flame and abuse the map reporter for reporting with the information backed up with Killboard, Fraps, ingame Sov facts he is given by us. Thanks, dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto

Kcel Chim Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2006.10.12 18:20:00 - [511] Well after ccp, the dev team and the gms got their turn it seems now the mapmaker is the mainfocus for ascn "losing the war" excuses.... "look bob has them all in the pocket, even the mapmaker is on their side, damn cheaters"
Jor Myne Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 18:27:00 - [512] It's lemon entry my dear Watson
hangovur Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 18:34:00 - [513] flame flame flame.... blah blah blah look, were all getting some good PVP here as much as RL permits (Dammed RL) and were gonna have a lot more before this is over. GG on the invasion into TPAR. respect for taking the war to us (though the execution was pitifull at best, hopefully some lessons were learned) and trust me when i say that we are grateful to you for being not making us travel 12-20-50 jumps for some good fights. personally i want to you to try it again w/ a bit more planning and forethought. GG on taking TCAG, i mean you did take a BOB system. but lets not make it out to be a big deal. there is no station or any real resources. it is for all intensive purposes a SS w/ guns. it is a tactical asset none the less. we could easily take a system next to one of yours w/ a few large POS at any given time. would that make it a victory of any kind? not really. lets leave TCAG at what it is, and internal moral booster for ASCN. GJ on that. now that TPAR is cleaned up we will see where the war takes us. lets try and keep it friendly and have a bit of fun. enough w/ the claims of haxploits and GM crap and just play the game. and celest, pls pls get off our joc.... well, backs. either get into the fight and help ASCN or stick to stocking our pond (fountain) w/ juicy targets. youre time is finite, so stop wasting time in our threads and get those NPC stations populated. Sig is not eve related - please see the RULES - Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc ([email protected])
firefreeze	Posted - 2006.10.12 18:41:00 - [514] Edited by: firefreeze on 12/10/2006 18:44:17 Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Coniglietta Magica Its your pocket puppet that refuses to marke the official alliance map as both feyth and period basis as being contested regions. Though according to his rules us having sov over one of your systems markes the region as contested. Goes to show you there are no neutrals in this war. Correction, Sov on a station system. Claiming some random corner of the universe nobody really cares anout using a POS doesnt count. Of course... bob is once again late with mailing me my check so i am of course open to employment suggestions... Really? Where is there any BOB Sov in any station system in PAragon soul? Answer.. there is none. edit: Damn buggy forums.
HordeZla Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 18:41:00 - [515] Originally by: Coniglietta Magica Does it look contested NOW? LMAO at this silly comment. I think you might find some other non bob corp systems in OUR space. Q, What's with all the t1 loot now, making shooting you all less fun. Your signature is inappropriate ( copyrighted material). Please read the forum rules before reposting- Tirg
Ria Sotori Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 18:44:00 - [516] lol omg... its like playing your 6 yr old little brother in monopoly if they get the cheapest card on the board there all like I WIN! I WIN! lolerz When you do something deserving respect I and a lot of the others jump on and give it to you. When you do something equivalent to going potty and remembering to wipe... im sorry but ill leave that gratz to your parents. Your signature is inappropriate ( copyrighted material). Please read the forum rules before reposting- Tirg
End Yourself Core Domination	Posted - 2006.10.12 18:51:00 - [517] Originally by: firefreeze Really? Where is there any BOB Sov in any station system in PAragon soul? Answer.. there is none. Really? Is PS showing up as disputed territory on the map? Answer.. it does not. Might want to add that lil 3-warzone to PB though. Highly doubt neither josh nor dbp would question that btw. --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
firefreeze	Posted - 2006.10.12 18:54:00 - [518] Originally by: End Yourself Originally by: firefreeze Really? Where is there any BOB Sov in any station system in PAragon soul? Answer.. there is none. Really? Is PS showing up as disputed territory on the map? Answer.. it does not. Might want to add that lil 3-warzone to PB though. Highly doubt neither josh nor dbp would question that btw. Actually.. according to the latest map PS does still show as disputed which is, obviously, wrong. http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/CRII/Latest.jpg?689414
CLEISTHENES2 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 18:56:00 - [519] Originally by: firefreeze Originally by: End Yourself Originally by: firefreeze Really? Where is there any BOB Sov in any station system in PAragon soul? Answer.. there is none. Really? Is PS showing up as disputed territory on the map? Answer.. it does not. Might want to add that lil 3-warzone to PB though. Highly doubt neither josh nor dbp would question that btw. Actually.. according to the latest map PS does still show as disputed which is, obviously, wrong. http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/CRII/Latest.jpg?689414 Sorry who are you, show your corp and alliance tag or your posts are worthless.
End Yourself Core Domination	Posted - 2006.10.12 18:57:00 - [520] Originally by: firefreeze Originally by: End Yourself Originally by: firefreeze Really? Where is there any BOB Sov in any station system in PAragon soul? Answer.. there is none. Really? Is PS showing up as disputed territory on the map? Answer.. it does not. Might want to add that lil 3-warzone to PB though. Highly doubt neither josh nor dbp would question that btw. Actually.. according to the latest map PS does still show as disputed which is, obviously, wrong. http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/CRII/Latest.jpg?689414 look at PS... look at venal for example... WTS clue --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.

firefreeze	Posted - 2006.10.12 18:58:00 - [521] Originally by: CLEISTHENES2 Originally by: firefreeze Originally by: End Yourself Originally by: firefreeze Really? Where is there any BOB Sov in any station system in PAragon soul? Answer.. there is none. Really? Is PS showing up as disputed territory on the map? Answer.. it does not. Might want to add that lil 3-warzone to PB though. Highly doubt neither josh nor dbp would question that btw. Actually.. according to the latest map PS does still show as disputed which is, obviously, wrong. http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/CRII/Latest.jpg?689414 Sorry who are you, show your corp and alliance tag or your posts are worthless. LOL. Funny.. totally disregard whether my post has facts in it or not... typical BOB, really.
End Yourself Core Domination	Posted - 2006.10.12 19:04:00 - [522] Originally by: firefreeze LOL. Funny.. totally disregard whether my post has facts in it or not... typical BOB, really. Your post had 0 facts in it. Bar someone without corp/alliance ticker showing off that he has no clue and can't read the map. --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 19:08:00 - [523] Originally by: End Yourself Originally by: firefreeze LOL. Funny.. totally disregard whether my post has facts in it or not... typical BOB, really. Your post had 0 facts in it. Bar someone without corp/alliance ticker showing off that he has no clue and can't read the map. I smell filthy little hobit. Sig is not eve related Eve related? Copyright of ISD?
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 19:32:00 - [524] If it looks like a hobbit, smells like a hobbit and talks like a hobbit.... then it's probably a hobbit.
Fi T'Zeh Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 19:35:00 - [525] They are taking the hobbits to Isengard !!! .... Real men use blasters
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 19:37:00 - [526] I smell new sigs soon Old blog
CLEISTHENES2 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 19:48:00 - [527] Originally by: Rod Blaine I smell new sigs soon Cyvok is coming with THE RING to free the hobbits
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 19:48:00 - [528] Originally by: Rod Blaine I smell new sigs soon With relevant in game persona logos on of course though
End Yourself Core Domination	Posted - 2006.10.12 20:10:00 - [529] Originally by: CLEISTHENES2 Originally by: Rod Blaine I smell new sigs soon Cyvok is coming with THE RING to free the hobbits Mustn't go that way! Mustn't hurt the precious! --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
Durethia Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 20:30:00 - [530] Originally by: Rod Blaine I smell new sigs soon I got mine! \o/

Mace Ardguy Dark Wheel	Posted - 2006.10.12 20:35:00 - [531] Originally by: End Yourself Bitterness... Dude, you need to get over getting your ass kicked out of Paragon Soul. Move on. It's a game. They won, you lost. Now stop stressing about it and go fill those Trit buy orders.
Constantine Arcanum Gallente IMPERIAL SENATE Pure.	Posted - 2006.10.12 20:35:00 - [532] Originally by: Durethia Originally by: Rod Blaine I smell new sigs soon I got mine! \o/ [samueljackson]They speak english in TPAR?[/samueljackson] I helped - Cortes What a shiny and lovely place here - Eshtir Well lets make it a party atleast :D -Xorus RAWWWR!11!!1!2 SIG HIJACK!!11!1 I found it first, get orrrfff moiiii laaannnd - Cortes
End Yourself Core Domination	Posted - 2006.10.12 20:50:00 - [533] Originally by: Mace Ardguy Originally by: End Yourself Bitterness... Dude, you need to get over getting your ass kicked out of Paragon Soul. Move on. It's a game. They won, you lost. Now stop stressing about it and go fill those Trit buy orders. Leaving that alliance behind was the best that could happen tbh. And if i would happen to be bitter about "losing" then that would be about our own alliance "leadership" back then, not about ASCN. Next time you feel like "quoting" me pls leave the quote intact, it's not like i made only one post in this thread. Then again, sorry, forgot you had no points regarding my post anyway. --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 21:10:00 - [534] HAs something change in here? IF YOU SEE ME WHINING OR NERVOUS THEN THERE ARE IDIOTS NEAR BY
End Yourself Core Domination	Posted - 2006.10.12 21:29:00 - [535] Originally by: Darcuese HAs something change in here? extract: End Yourself : They're thieves! They're thieves! They're filthy little thieves! Where is it? Where is it? They stole it from us, our precious. Curse them! WE hates them! It's ours it is, and we wants it! We wants it, we needs it. Must have the precious. They stole it from us. Sneaky little hobbitses. Wicked, tricksy, false! Butterdog : No! Not Cyvok. End Yourself : Yes precious. First they cheat you, hurt you, LIE! Butterdog : Cyvok's my friend! End Yourself : You don't have any friends, nobody likes you! Butterdog : I'm not listening, I'm not listening. End Yourself : You're a liar and a thief. Butterdog : No! End Yourself : Murderer. Butterdog : Go away! End Yourself : Go away?!? Butterdog : I hate you, I hate you. End Yourself : Where would you be without me? End Yourself! End Yourself saved us! It was me! We survived because of me! Butterdog : Not anymore. End Yourself : What did you say?!? Butterdog : Cyvok looks after us now, we don't need you anymore. Leave now and never come back! /me goes afk to fetch another drink... --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 23:49:00 - [536] Originally by: firefreeze Originally by: CLEISTHENES2 Originally by: firefreeze Originally by: End Yourself Originally by: firefreeze Really? Where is there any BOB Sov in any station system in PAragon soul? Answer.. there is none. Really? Is PS showing up as disputed territory on the map? Answer.. it does not. Might want to add that lil 3-warzone to PB though. Highly doubt neither josh nor dbp would question that btw. Actually.. according to the latest map PS does still show as disputed which is, obviously, wrong. http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/CRII/Latest.jpg?689414 Sorry who are you, show your corp and alliance tag or your posts are worthless. LOL. Funny.. totally disregard whether my post has facts in it or not... typical BOB, really. If you read the replies and also the territory map, they point out its a mistake and should be a warzone, not contested in paragon. Read a book, save a school, muppet Iron and G eat babie's, my views are my own and do not reflect my corp or my alliance
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence	Posted - 2006.10.13 13:04:00 - [537] any new developments? seeing the map shows some sov changes? ------ relaxed corp looking for members
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.13 13:25:00 - [538] Originally by: Splagada any new developments? seeing the map shows some sov changes? Ascn put up a med tower awhile back and it took sov of tcag, that's pretty much it sov wise Iron and G eat babie's, my views are my own and do not reflect my corp or my alliance
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence	Posted - 2006.10.13 13:29:00 - [539] ah ok :p for us non-factors, i find this story pretty good, thanks to eve-tribune we can enjoy that too ------ relaxed corp looking for members
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.13 15:40:00 - [540] Originally by: End Yourself Edited by: End Yourself on 12/10/2006 21:40:34 Originally by: Darcuese HAs something change in here? extract: End Yourself : They're thieves! They're thieves! They're filthy little thieves! Where is it? Where is it? They stole it from us, our precious. Curse them! WE hates them! It's ours it is, and we wants it! We wants it, we needs it. Must have the precious. They stole it from us. Sneaky little hobbitses. Wicked, tricksy, false! Butterdog : No! Not Cyvok. End Yourself : Yes precious. First they cheat you, hurt you, LIE! Butterdog : Cyvok's my friend! End Yourself : You don't have any friends, nobody likes you! Butterdog : I'm not listening, I'm not listening. End Yourself : You're a liar and a thief. Butterdog : No! End Yourself : Murderer. Butterdog : Go away! End Yourself : Go away?!? Butterdog : I hate you, I hate you. End Yourself : Where would you be without me? End Yourself saved us! It was me! We survived because of me! Butterdog : Not anymore. End Yourself : What did you say?!? Butterdog : Cyvok looks after us now, we don't need you anymore. Leave now and never come back! boohoohoooo /me goes afk to fetch another drink... Just because I dislike BoB's generally smacktardy forum attitude, does not mean I like Cyvok. For the record, I don't. In fact, I think his accusations of 'hax' toward BoB are laughable, and I have said as much many times. I also think their kill/loss ratio is a joke, which makes BoB look far better than they really are.

Coranor Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.13 16:02:00 - [541] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: End Yourself Edited by: End Yourself on 12/10/2006 21:40:34 Originally by: Darcuese HAs something change in here? extract: End Yourself : They're thieves! They're thieves! They're filthy little thieves! Where is it? Where is it? They stole it from us, our precious. Curse them! WE hates them! It's ours it is, and we wants it! We wants it, we needs it. Must have the precious. They stole it from us. Sneaky little hobbitses. Wicked, tricksy, false! Butterdog : No! Not Cyvok. End Yourself : Yes precious. First they cheat you, hurt you, LIE! Butterdog : Cyvok's my friend! End Yourself : You don't have any friends, nobody likes you! Butterdog : I'm not listening, I'm not listening. End Yourself : You're a liar and a thief. Butterdog : No! End Yourself : Murderer. Butterdog : Go away! End Yourself : Go away?!? Butterdog : I hate you, I hate you. End Yourself : Where would you be without me? End Yourself saved us! It was me! We survived because of me! Butterdog : Not anymore. End Yourself : What did you say?!? Butterdog : Cyvok looks after us now, we don't need you anymore. Leave now and never come back! boohoohoooo /me goes afk to fetch another drink... Just because I dislike BoB's generally smacktardy forum attitude, does not mean I like Cyvok. For the record, I don't. In fact, I think his accusations of 'hax' toward BoB are laughable, and I have said as much many times. I also think their kill/loss ratio is a joke, which makes BoB look far better than they really are. Woah. Hang on there mate you're confusing us poor ill educated non productive members of society here.
Mai Kingsman	Posted - 2006.10.13 19:06:00 - [542] Edited by: Mai Kingsman on 13/10/2006 19:08:27
Erin Kingsman Gallente A.W.M	Posted - 2006.10.13 19:09:00 - [543] Oh man guys, you really know how to make someone's day, here I am, starting back up eve for the first time since GNW ended and you're starting what looks to become a GSW? Hmm now if ccp would just hurry up and recover the password on my combat character for me instead of this miner char I might even be able to weasel some shooting in :D Erin aka Zak Kingsman
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.14 10:19:00 - [544] Originally by: firefreeze Originally by: CLEISTHENES2 Originally by: firefreeze Originally by: End Yourself Originally by: firefreeze Really? Where is there any BOB Sov in any station system in PAragon soul? Answer.. there is none. Really? Is PS showing up as disputed territory on the map? Answer.. it does not. Might want to add that lil 3-warzone to PB though. Highly doubt neither josh nor dbp would question that btw. Actually.. according to the latest map PS does still show as disputed which is, obviously, wrong. http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/CRII/Latest.jpg?689414 Sorry who are you, show your corp and alliance tag or your posts are worthless. LOL. Funny.. totally disregard whether my post has facts in it or not... typical BOB, really. Your actually breaking this forums rules by posting, typical lame alt really.
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence	Posted - 2006.10.14 18:42:00 - [545] Originally by: fire 59 Originally by: Splagada any new developments? seeing the map shows some sov changes? Ascn put up a med tower awhile back and it took sov of tcag, that's pretty much it sov wise nonon it's the system before ------ relaxed corp looking for members
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.14 19:51:00 - [546] Originally by: Splagada Originally by: fire 59 Originally by: Splagada any new developments? seeing the map shows some sov changes? Ascn put up a med tower awhile back and it took sov of tcag, that's pretty much it sov wise nonon it's the system before I think your referring to tpar butthey never took the sov there Iron and G eat babie's, my views are my own and do not reflect my corp or my alliance
Dray Caldari Finite Horizon	Posted - 2006.10.14 22:23:00 - [547] Originally by: Durethia Originally by: Rod Blaine I smell new sigs soon I got mine! \o/ top sig gave me a pleasant chuckle
Electric Cucumber Amarr Beagle Corp R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.10.14 22:26:00 - [548] funniest sigs ever
pershphanie Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.15 00:22:00 - [549] Originally by: Coniglietta Magica Its your pocket puppet that refuses to marke the official alliance map as both feyth and period basis as being contested regions. Though according to his rules us having sov over one of your systems markes the region as contested. Goes to show you there are no neutrals in this war. You just dont get it do you? You are not losing because of what the map says or any other bull** like that. You are losing because you have bad fleet commanders, poor stategy by alliance commanders, and a fundamental flaw in the construction of your alliance memberbase. That can not be fixed without a huge purge or even starting over from scratch. A map maker can not fix those problems for you. If I were out fighting a war that could very well be a battle for our existance and over half my alliance was still making isk I would be VERY ed about it. Map makers can not solve that problem. It appears to be a pattern in CYVOK's career as an alliance leader. Changing the map wont solve that problem There are a few reasons I can think of for this. Your alliance leaders seem to plan out to their ideas very poorly. By this I do not me they come up bad ideas. Their ideas are fine. Its the plan of execution on those ideas that is horrible. I'm quite suprised by this considering logistics (which takes lots of planning) is supposed to be your strength. Also your fleet commanders deserve alot of the blame here. I've fought against pretty much every corp in eve at one time or another and I've never seen so many bad decisions made by fleet commanders EVER since the release of eve. TBH with your FC's I'm supprised anyone shows up to your ops at all. The biggest issue is still the ammount of people in your alliance that are out making isk and getting rich under the false pretense of "supporting the alliance's industrial base" while you are fighting the war for them. It is really irritating to be one of the people doing all the fighting while half your alliance doesnt give a about anything but making isk. If you want to complain about something or are looking for whats going wrong I hope I helped you out. No, its not the map maker. Its selfish miners and an incompetent egomanical leadership. The map wont save you from this. Look, I'll prove it. New map for you. See! Now youve got the map you want and you're alliance is still completly incompetent. Turns out the map had no effect. Unless you want ASCN to stand for "Apathetic Self-serving Cowardly Negligence" you are going to need to make some serious changes. None of those changes have anything to do with biased map makers. If you want to do anything great in eve it involves taking personal responsibility when things go wrong. So far I've heard ASCN members blame BOB, D2, AAA, hax, lag, exploits, spys, CCP, the servers, cheating GMS, and now even the map maker. I have yet to see any of you willing take take responsibility for anything you do. You cant improve if you wont admit that the things that go wrong are your own fault, not anyone elses. Doesnt matter to me I guess. Keep blaming everyone else for your problems and G/L with a sub par eve career. Originally by:** CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
Lorth Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.15 02:47:00 - [550] That was an superb post pershphanie, but I fear the words of wisdom maybe lost on the average forum dweller.

Marodi Alivar	Posted - 2006.10.15 03:11:00 - [551] Edited by: Marodi Alivar on 15/10/2006 03:11:38 Darned computer tricked me into a double post.

Serathu Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.10.15 04:16:00 - [552] This thread has run its course and is no longer serving a useful, constructive purpose. click \| Forum Rules \| CAOD Rules \| CRC Website \| [email protected] \|



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