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Nanobotter Mk2
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Posted - 2006.10.10 21:21:00 -
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"WTF? So you want wow in space right?Flags and stuff that point out that care bears are a different breed and don't PVP?Get your facts straigth not every care bear comes here to the forums whining that he got his a** handed to him in PVP ,most of them enjoy the fights and praise the "grievers"."
Errm you neew to either think more clearly, or read slower. I never asked for anything. Also you know those "flags and stuff" you mentioned they already exist they are called npc corps...
As for facts being straight you are the one needing to get them straight most people do come to the forums complaining about being ganked in empire and how it s wrong. NEver are greifer praised. the only time someone comes and says anything good about a new pvp experience are those who decided they would head into low sec or 0.0 knowing they are at risk and wanting to check out pvp.
Lastly you have gone so far off topic it isnt even funny, we are discussing people just like you, who seem to have nothing to say just tough talk about being some uber pvper and tossing in a condecending reference to WOW.
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necronarcosis
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Posted - 2006.10.10 22:22:00 -
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unfortunatly, the growing trend of eve forum wh**es is to flame and attack coments made here, but what did you expect from a community that is sadly becoming more are more elitist and intolorant. omg |

Complacency's Bane
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.10 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: necronarcosis unfortunatly, the growing trend of eve forum wh**es is to flame and attack coments made here, but what did you expect from a community that is sadly becoming more are more elitist and intolorant.
I think youre right.
EVE players need to condone and encourange stupidity more then they currently do. Its totally intelligence-biased right now, and dumb people dont deserve it. They should be coddled and made to feel safe in expressing opinions which are poorly written farces.
I like your opinion. Thank you for expressing it. Please continue to express it. Your opinion is special, and youre a special boy.
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Brem Watson
Caldari Nexus-6
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Posted - 2006.10.10 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: KnightCrawler This forum community has gotten to the point where a large majority of the people are nothing short of abusive.
There is a simple saying: "If you have nothing nice to say, Don't say anything at all".
There are a lot of "Clickish" behavior in any forum. People want to be recognized and want to be seen as cool.
I moderate another forum and I've seen it for the last 5 years.
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Darkenral
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Posted - 2006.10.10 23:19:00 -
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@ The OP very true.
Relative to the rest of the thread the thing is:
On the awesome side of the spectrum you have BOB / ASCN / D2 etc hell even the Goons these guys + gals are taking PVP to new heights with alliance level warfare as flawed as it may be atm, you cant help but to respect their achievments in game in terms of holding space and running organizations. Also some of the good MERC corps have great in game acomplishments. Hell I even give Infinity Zona's Privateer corp huge props for an inovative way to find war targets that are looking for a fight. Again kudos to them.
Then on the bottom feeder side, you have the guys exloiting cans, asking for help and tricking mission runners into a gang then inviting a warring member so the mission runner dosent even get the pop up, snipers sitting @ 200km off a gate, lamers war deccing young/industrial corps. ETC ETC
Unfortunaetly your going to get both in a sand box type game, the later of the two groups are usually the most vocal whiners on the boards. Flaming new players, trolling threads w/the "zomg go back to wow, as only real tough guys with super high IQ's can gank in sniper boats on gates wawawa"
Why CCP caters to that crowd I cant figure out. But if your taking a break from killing elves and such EVE is the best thing on the market atm.
Dark
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Brem Watson
Caldari Nexus-6
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Posted - 2006.10.10 23:34:00 -
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Edited by: Brem Watson on 10/10/2006 23:34:25
Originally by: Darkenral dosent even get the pop up, snipers sitting @ 200km off a gate,
I like watching them from my Buzzard's window.....
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w0rmy
Intensive CareBearz
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Posted - 2006.10.10 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: KnightCrawler
...buhu...
If you dont like what you read in the forums...
Close them.
"Forum *****s pay the monthly fee, let they play how they choose, if they doesnt want to act like decent people, thats their own damn choice"
Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Dark Shikari
What single item is larger than a jetcan?
My ego?
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Uuve Savisaalo
Umbra Congregatio
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Posted - 2006.10.11 00:46:00 -
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eve is just a pvp game. its core systems depend upon pvp for functionality..it is practically impossible to derive value from the game's aspects that do not on some level contain competitions with others that come down to violence. You'll notice that lengthy guides for industrialists and traders come to a head where you have to figure out who fills the sell orders in vast batches and go after another players by some means or be forced out of the region (whether by hiring mercenaries or some other means).. you don't necessarily have to be the gunman in every situation, but the whole game is just..a pvp structure..you're in a constant competition over everything not with a system designed to keep you entertained but with other human players.
the reason why a lot of the people condense their attitude to 'go play warcraft' is because that game was built ground-up with the sort of experience disgruntled and abused PVE-only players are complaining about so vocally here. I do not want to drive them out at all, just pointing out that you don't go to a steakhouse for great vegan food.
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Cipher7
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.10.11 01:06:00 -
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If you don't want to parttake in space combat (my pvp), I don't want to parttake in the Market (your pvp).
If your security is provided for free, then I want my ships provided for free.
Otherwise builders have the power to affect other players, but nobody will have the power to affect them back.
I don't think builders realize quite how much power they have in Eve. They think it's all about the physical. Money is power. Physical loss is nothing. Look at ISS, look at how much power they have as a civilian organization. They've raised an army of in-house mercenaries who get free ships and large subsidies, plus they have some of the most respected mercenary corps on retainer.
That's REAL power.
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Claude Leon
Gallente Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2006.10.11 03:31:00 -
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Originally by: Gonada Edited by: Gonada on 09/10/2006 16:00:46 Its harder for new players as EVE's forum squatters seem to all share the view that the only thing to do in EVE is to PvP --------------------------------------
actually this post shows the total ignorance of the ex-wow/eq/ect. types that have been flooding these boards lately, why?
eve is a pvp game in its entirety. from competition to mine minerals, to the market, reasearch, to misson running where you hone your skills, then finally to lowsec, its all competition.
I am sure its not so much as noob bashing, as having to read the same" this is unfair, change it or ill leave !" posts day by day by day.
most of the people that cause such a ruckus are those that have been weaned on lamer carebear experiences, and naturally want eve to be the same, non- violent environment, where everyone is the same, everyone has no advantage over each other, and you can be the best with little difficulty.
well news flash, eve is not that game. cry all you want, it wont change the basic fact that eve does not coddle you, you are on your own, and yes there are people better than you and me out there in the eve universe.
deal with it, you choose your destiny, you have the power. wether you use that power to whine on the boards abvout how unfair it all is, or actually play eve is up to you, but I and others will still bash lame posts by those that somehow feel that a pvp environment game setting is the end of the world.
ps: Takes a whole lot of 'skill' to press a few buttons and then wait until they explode, doesn't it!) or complain about how empire space is too good. -----------------------------
takes skill yes, but as much skill as any other online game takes, shows this poster has no clue.
You just proved the original posters point.
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M4sterm1nd
DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.11 08:18:00 -
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Edited by: M4sterm1nd on 11/10/2006 08:21:44
Originally by: Complacency's Bane lock the price of all goods to NPC value (make it an exploit to sell for more in trades or escrows, of course), and the game will be super fun. I'll never get unconsentually market PvPed again!
Aw SAY it ain't SO! Could someone send me the latest Cosmo and Elle? Nobody told me communism was the new pink, and here I am in yesterday's freemarket pink! *puts bag over head*
For real tho, I hope your post is your idea of a funny joke, cause the alternative makes you a frighteningly shortsighted and/or undereducated individual. Maybe take a page out of Gorbachev's book, mate. ...and for the love of all that's holy, DON'T ask who Gorbachev is. Google it or ask mommy&daddy if you have to.
Man is defined by his innate greed (reread your post if u dont believe me), which gives rise to what modern economics calls "the demand curve". Attempting to operate any market in disregard of this curve, is at best a deluded utopianist pipedream, and usually self-destructive in the longer run. It may hold for a while, but in the end, the invisible hand(*GROAN*) WILL take over. Ishtars (and everything else, for that matter) will sell for whatever people are willing to pay for them. As the dutch say "what the idiot will give for it". If you wont pay that price, you may have your own small part in lowering the price until the market clears again. But as long as demand outstrips supply, the seller holds all the cards. 
Here endeth the lesson.
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Complacency's Bane
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.11 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: M4sterm1nd
Originally by: Complacency's Bane lock the price of all goods to NPC value (make it an exploit to sell for more in trades or escrows, of course), and the game will be super fun. I'll never get unconsentually market PvPed again!
Aw SAY it ain't SO! Could someone send me the latest Cosmo and Elle? Nobody told me communism was the new pink, and here I am in yesterday's freemarket pink! *puts bag over head*
For real tho, I hope your post is your idea of a funny joke, cause the alternative makes you a frighteningly shortsighted and/or undereducated individual. Maybe take a page out of Gorbachev's book, mate. ...and for the love of all that's holy, DON'T ask who Gorbachev is. Google it or ask mommy&daddy if you have to.
Man is defined by his innate greed (reread your post if u dont believe me), which gives rise to what modern economics calls "the demand curve". Attempting to operate any market in disregard of this curve, is at best a deluded utopianist pipedream, and usually self-destructive in the longer run. It may hold for a while, but in the end, the invisible hand WILL take over. Ishtars (and everything else, for that matter) will sell for whatever people are willing to pay for them. As the dutch say "what the idiot will give for it". If you wont pay that price, you may have your own small part in lowering the price until the market clears again. But as long as demand outstrips supply, the seller holds all the cards. 
Here endeth the lesson.
Please dont troll and/or flame and/or mock me. It makes me feel not special.
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M4sterm1nd
DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.11 08:24:00 -
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Edited by: M4sterm1nd on 11/10/2006 08:25:23
Originally by: Complacency's Bane Please dont troll and/or flame and/or mock me. It makes me feel not special.
Derisive incendiary fairytale crreatures aren't my thing. Just trying to help 
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Pan Crastus
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Posted - 2006.10.11 08:35:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher7
If you don't want to parttake in space combat (my pvp), I don't want to parttake in the Market (your pvp).
Noone is forcing you. Build an Outpost in 0.0, allow access only to your corp or alliance, then you can totally ignore the empire market except for BPOs and various trade goods which you can buy at NPC prices. As for T2 BPOs, complain to CCP about them.
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Complacency's Bane
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.11 08:37:00 -
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Originally by: Pan Crastus
Originally by: Cipher7
If you don't want to parttake in space combat (my pvp), I don't want to parttake in the Market (your pvp).
Noone is forcing you.
Noone is forcing you to partake in space combat.
Never undock.
Problem solved.
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Echorest
Minmatar Liberty Rogues
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Posted - 2006.10.11 09:06:00 -
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Just to clear things up in terms of the PvP thing. Whilst there are NPC elements readily available in this game , (i'm a hardcore mission runner myself, I enjoy them and they pass the time)PvP is the focus. That is not to say that having PvE negates that argument.
The PvE Is actually enhanced in my opinion by the elements chasing me to my next mission. Etc. But what my main point is I Believe is that what EvE stands for................
Everybody V Everybody
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D'Mur Pilru
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Posted - 2006.10.11 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Complacency's Bane
Originally by: necronarcosis ...
I think youre right.
EVE players need to condone and encourange stupidity more then they currently do. Its totally intelligence-biased right now, and dumb people dont deserve it. They should be coddled and made to feel safe in expressing opinions which are poorly written farces.
I like your opinion. Thank you for expressing it. Please continue to express it. Your opinion is special, and youre a special boy.
My god, you do know that vanity is a sin right, in all your self-proclaimed uber intelligence? Or did you just fall out off the womb being smarter than the rest of the world? How's life been lately in your ivory tower of superiority?
I don't feel that the ability to flame a poster is a sign of you being smarter...it just goes to show what I said before about empty vessels.
As to the original thread, QED number ~
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M4sterm1nd
DarkStar 1 Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.11 09:52:00 -
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Oh yippy, yahoo, and huzzah... the S-bomb has been dropped. Run for cover before someone makes you swallow pieces of plastic or mails you your wife's head. *sigh*
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Plan Neun
Caldari Ganja Unlimited
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Posted - 2006.10.11 10:34:00 -
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Edited by: Plan Neun on 11/10/2006 10:37:40 I did not see that posting, but you got a point. There are players sitting in this forum(s) only to post poison Ivy's. I got only one advice do not answer the ****eheads, let the forum operators deal with them.
"I Will Drug You and Fluff You, through the permafrost"
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T'Karr
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Posted - 2006.10.11 12:29:00 -
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I like the way the mods do obviously read the forum, I dont like the way they dont get involved a little. Like clarifying things on the corp jumping. Could have saved a little flaming, and made this topic a little educational.
As for the PvE/PvP debate, and eve being a totally PvP game, if it was, why have sec ratings and Concord? Why have these obvious loopholes that weaker players exploit is another question. Lots of mixed signals, or maybe just freedom.
CCP have recently started a digest of news, perhaps they could add a section on questions asked on the Forum, that way we can have definitive answers, instead of people proclaiming their own version and claiming it as fact, when its really just their opinion.
I dont know about you guys, but I like PvP, unless its against someone who cant fight back because they are new, a miner etc, then its just greifing imho.
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Anti Protagonist
Gallente Archron Dusyfe Industries EntroPraetorian Aegis
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Posted - 2006.10.11 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: Biltic Creen
Originally by: KnightCrawler
I actualy think he deserved props for being new and figuring out how to manipulate the game mechanics in his favor without breaking the rules so that he didnt have to pvp after being war dec'd and that the corp that war dec'd him just lost million of isk to fight a corp that doesnt exist.
1. AFAIK leaving a corp to get out of the way of war-decs is classified as an exploit. 2. Who cares about the 2 Millions (or whatever, even if it were 20), ISK is really not the problem in Eve
According to a GM on petition, leaving the corp to avoid a war dec is not against the rules. We had a corp that was being a problem, so we war deced them. After taking out their CEO's hauler and Pod, then later taking out her Prophy with a rupture, they started an alt to hold the corp open and all left. The GM answering the petition said that it was allowed, even if it is lame.
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Miss Overlord
Gallente Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2006.10.11 22:08:00 -
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key point is lame but allowed. Enough said not that i agree with it but its the way CCP have it atm
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