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UomoDiMerda
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Posted - 2006.10.11 03:04:00 -
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lol this is just so lame. 1)gudrodur, u have a problem with someone? talk to him, don't go bashing a whole alliance
2) other kids, stfu. u come down to us, fight, then u'll have something to say about our behaviour. don't just open your mouth, u'll eventually eat some flies and get sick
3) TnT mates, what da hell u doing? check things within tnt before blablaing in forums. and why u backing a troll thread against yourselves?
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Commander Thrawn
Tarnak inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.11 03:20:00 -
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Originally by: UomoDiMerda lol this is just so lame. 1)gudrodur, u have a problem with someone? talk to him, don't go bashing a whole alliance
2) other kids, stfu. u come down to us, fight, then u'll have something to say about our behaviour. don't just open your mouth, u'll eventually eat some flies and get sick
3) TnT mates, what da hell u doing? check things within tnt before blablaing in forums. and why u backing a troll thread against yourselves?
i've killed Gud before and been killed by him a few times as well. He has always fought with honour. I'll beleive his word over you anyday and most likely that's why your alliance m8's beleive him too.
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Complacency's Bane
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.11 04:16:00 -
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Originally by: UomoDiMerda 3) TnT mates, what da hell u doing? check things within tnt before blablaing in forums. and why u backing a troll thread against yourselves?
Because 'yourselves' in this case did something which makes everyone in your alliance look bad.
Alcatraz fixed that. Thats the hallmark of a respectable corp - they actually stand behind their word.
What youre doing right now is the hallmark of a pathetic corp. Trying to wheedle your way out of responsibilities even your alliancemates know you have.
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dralid
Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.11 09:35:00 -
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Although Gudrodur is like a natural enemy of us, we always enjoyed fighting him (damn that nos domi of yours) and he deserves to be fought clean. Name and shame remembered here palestrina. Gudrodur is a better player then you, you should not have accepted the 1vs1, because it was a sure death anyway. -- Do YOU know, the Whirlwind? HERE |

UomoDiMerda
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Posted - 2006.10.11 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Complacency's Bane
What youre doing right now is the hallmark of a pathetic corp. Trying to wheedle your way out of responsibilities even your alliancemates know you have.
responsibilities? that's the point. if a bunch of kids did something wrong (which i never said they didn't) i don't get why all TnT is guilty. i never used lame tactics and never did many of my alliance mates. going on eve-o forum accusing tnt is lame and childish. where i live we are used to deal with things directly, not crying and whining to our mother.
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Ugluuk
Caldari Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.10.11 17:26:00 -
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Since Palestrina aren`t booted and he support this kind of behaviour im leaving the alliance for my own benefit..
TnT and especially Alcatraz has been great for the last 3 months.. Many great pilots and possibly the best solo pilot in Eve (Gauss Belloid) learned me lots of good stuff to take with me..
Coronna is the CEO i wished i could been..A great man who got my vote for Eve personality of the year..
Please dont judge TnT for 1 single members actions..The rest of them are great people..
Got the list Gudro..Gonna pay my agent a visit to try and reimburse you fast..
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Cadela Fria
Amarr eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.11 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: UomoDiMerda
Originally by: Complacency's Bane
What youre doing right now is the hallmark of a pathetic corp. Trying to wheedle your way out of responsibilities even your alliancemates know you have.
responsibilities? that's the point. if a bunch of kids did something wrong (which i never said they didn't) i don't get why all TnT is guilty. i never used lame tactics and never did many of my alliance mates. going on eve-o forum accusing tnt is lame and childish. where i live we are used to deal with things directly, not crying and whining to our mother.
Because that 1 person is a representation of your corp, whether you like it or not. He bears your corp/alliance mark, thus you accepted him in, thus he is a part of who you are as a whole, and people judge you based on that.
Luckily however, a lot of TnT alliance members stood up and apologised for the situation and generally disapproved of the unfair 1vs1, making all the difference in mending the hurt views of your alliance/corp.
Now here you come along, yelling and yapping, not exactly helping anything and just seem to want to stir up more trouble. Good luck with that
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Gudrodur
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.10.11 18:53:00 -
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Edited by: Gudrodur on 11/10/2006 18:53:15
Originally by: Ugluuk Since Palestrina aren`t booted and he support this kind of behaviour im leaving the alliance for my own benefit..
TnT and especially Alcatraz has been great for the last 3 months.. Many great pilots and possibly the best solo pilot in Eve (Gauss Belloid) learned me lots of good stuff to take with me..
Coronna is the CEO i wished i could been..A great man who got my vote for Eve personality of the year..
Please dont judge TnT for 1 single members actions..The rest of them are great people..
Got the list Gudro..Gonna pay my agent a visit to try and reimburse you fast..
Hi Ugluuk my old frinde !
The isk is no issue her and I do not need it. Wish u Luke in EVE and fly safe BTW if u need new corp talk to me :)
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Jebidus Skari
Amarr KTHNXDIE
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Posted - 2006.10.12 07:40:00 -
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That makes me want a Falcon, cloaky jammyness ftw 
Screw Caldari Cruiser 5 though 
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sariss
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2006.10.12 08:32:00 -
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We fought TNT back in our -V- days and learned to know them as very good PVPers and honorable enemies.
A single incident says nothing about an alliance an i doubt that that TNT will support what has happened. Judging from the statements it was a misunderstanding, so give the man his stuff back, all shake hands and forget about it now (and stop continuing this flamebait).

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Xaarist
FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.12 11:13:00 -
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big thumbs up to TNT for their decision. credit where credit is due. ---------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is an alien dressed as Bunny to secretly gain world domination. ...if you don't know Happy Tree Friends, just imagine Teletubbies on LSD... |

Plexreticle
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Posted - 2006.10.12 12:37:00 -
[42]
OK, Group Hugz ftw 
revenge is my god and my guns are her angels
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Zandramus
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.12 12:56:00 -
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Edited by: Zandramus on 12/10/2006 12:56:35
Originally by: Gudrodur Edited by: Gudrodur on 10/10/2006 00:31:53 Well I have a story to tell, a grim one.
I tell this tale in order to fulfill my role as a good EVE player.
I was doing missions in stain to recover some isk after the 9uy war yesterday I was invited by Palestrina (TNT Alliance) to a 1 vs 1, I had to leave soon and couldn't and said so and left.
Today I invited him to a 1 vs 1, I went in a blaster megathron and he was in a nos dominix we met in 6y-0tw planet one.
I was ripping him a new one and just before he went to structure point a Falcon uncloaked and jammed me and 4 of his friends came and killed me.
I know that there is one thing in eve that is sacred to any player, the only currency out there except for isk, people that do not keep their word are the lowest form of life in eve and RL, I'm sure you know what I mean so I say to you all in eve that this action needs to be punished.
I know the TNT ppl are probably going to flame me to hell here, but i never see them try to fight anything outnumbered or anything like that only coward tactics and yes i have lost 2 capital ships to them but that was just gank 1 vs 20 or something and sometimes i get bored what can i say :) I wanna test my ships. If I¦d play eve responsibly I¦d be one rich *****.
Such an act deserves attention to it and punishment is in order for such betrayal.
Just wanted everyone to know so you are warned.
tnt are noobs
i used to npc in 6y area and came out w/ 3 officer spawns 2 for my corpmate and 1 for me they keep telling us that it was their space and they were gunna make us leave all they do is sit in the station and smacktalk they had to get coalition of carebear killers to kill my raven down there
edited in coalition of carebear killers as their abbr is filtered
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Ginger Magician
Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2006.10.12 14:08:00 -
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TNT are scumbags without honour. But dont accept 1v1s unless you are prepared to face multiple enemies. As far as I know there is no honourable 1v1s. The last time I accepted a 1v1 I did not face multiple opponents but the raven pilot I was fighting in my megathron deliberately warped to me at 100km so that I had no chance to catch him before his missiles could fire multiple volleys.Needless to say I didnt lose my ship but he knew he would lose if he had warped in at 15km.
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Cadela Fria
Amarr eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.12 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician TNT are scumbags without honour. But dont accept 1v1s unless you are prepared to face multiple enemies. As far as I know there is no honourable 1v1s. The last time I accepted a 1v1 I did not face multiple opponents but the raven pilot I was fighting in my megathron deliberately warped to me at 100km so that I had no chance to catch him before his missiles could fire multiple volleys.Needless to say I didnt lose my ship but he knew he would lose if he had warped in at 15km.
That has got to be the lamest excuse ever for saying they are scumbags. Tell me, did you agree on a set fighting distance? If not, then you were just stupid not to specify and he used that to his advantage, and you warped out...in reality, you dishonoured the duel just cause you were poorly prepared.
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.10.12 14:20:00 -
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Now this has got me rather *****ed up.
Firstly Gudrodur - You and Palestrina had a 1v1. You and him were NOT in our gang. Our gang was the pvp one, palestrina was the npcer. You asked for 1 v 1 vs him. you got it.
It is entirely your fault for accepting a duel at a planet. Palestrina didnt even tell us it was a 1 v 1. So maybe next time you should 1. Think where you're going to duel (i suggest a ss). 2. Check your facts.
Now ugluuk - im not going to bash you here, but i find it rather childish that you are taking this approach. You should have left this to CEOs to resolve, and not be so immature.
And ginger - wtf who are you talking to about lame? Go on a diet, and stop popping 1 week old mission runners.
Now, i know for a fact that when i log on today, i will recieve a convo. It will be discussing this issue. Now i will have my say:
I was that falcon pilot. And im the one who informed the gang of gudrodurs location. I scanned the planets like any competent pvper does, and found gudrodur - at which point i uncloaked, jammed, and the gang warped in.
We do NOT dishonour PvP, 1 v 1s, or anything else. We discourage smacktalk, and we repremand those that do. Now IF there is a situation which has a form of problem, such as this - Then convo myself, or another CEO of the representing corp. Dont be lame and go onto public forums, and flame the entire alliance for one act. Especially when that act is only viewed in a negative way due to a lack of information, and insight.
Now i will tell you this: Several alliance members are now upset etc regarding 1. Ugluuk leaving TNT, and 2. Being named and shamed on these forums, just due to gudrodur being a spoilt looser, and having a way to 'vent' his anger.
Ofcourse, gudrodur couldnt possibly be posting this in anger, for loosing 2 thanatos, aswell as several Bs in a matter of 10 minutes, out of spite could he?
It actually pains me to see members of the eve community posting here in such a disrespecful manner, regarding people they dont know, about a situation they havent been properly informed about, and when half of them are probably contradicting themselves in their own right.
Ive had my say, and if anyone here wishes to convo me about what happened, or to flame a member of TNT, come to me. I was gang lead of the gang that popped gudrodurs mega, and come to be to ***** about it.
Wax off.

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Ginger Magician
Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2006.10.12 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Cadela Fria
Originally by: Ginger Magician TNT are scumbags without honour. But dont accept 1v1s unless you are prepared to face multiple enemies. As far as I know there is no honourable 1v1s. The last time I accepted a 1v1 I did not face multiple opponents but the raven pilot I was fighting in my megathron deliberately warped to me at 100km so that I had no chance to catch him before his missiles could fire multiple volleys.Needless to say I didnt lose my ship but he knew he would lose if he had warped in at 15km.
That has got to be the lamest excuse ever for saying they are scumbags. Tell me, did you agree on a set fighting distance? If not, then you were just stupid not to specify and he used that to his advantage, and you warped out...in reality, you dishonoured the duel just cause you were poorly prepared.
Its given that if ur dueling u warp in at 15km anything else is cowardly.And this was not a TNT person.I know TNT very well and have fought and killed hundreds of them - they are lame blobbers without any skills whatsoever. Alcatraz were in fact the most carebear corp in the whole of the old CA and I used to kill them so easily it was laughable.
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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.12 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: Cadela Fria
Originally by: Ginger Magician TNT are scumbags without honour. But dont accept 1v1s unless you are prepared to face multiple enemies. As far as I know there is no honourable 1v1s. The last time I accepted a 1v1 I did not face multiple opponents but the raven pilot I was fighting in my megathron deliberately warped to me at 100km so that I had no chance to catch him before his missiles could fire multiple volleys.Needless to say I didnt lose my ship but he knew he would lose if he had warped in at 15km.
That has got to be the lamest excuse ever for saying they are scumbags. Tell me, did you agree on a set fighting distance? If not, then you were just stupid not to specify and he used that to his advantage, and you warped out...in reality, you dishonoured the duel just cause you were poorly prepared.
as far as i can tell things got mixed up here. in gingers text the raven story is not directly related to tnt and the insult in the beginning. he just used it as an example for "his last 1on1" and he didnt say it was with tnt. it COULD well be, but he definetly didnt say so. -- Only you can save MMORPGS - Stop whining today! |

Waxau
Liberty Rogues Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.10.12 14:24:00 -
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Oh and just to say: Palestrina right now IS (thats a fact, not a wish) not guilty of dishonouring a 1v1. Ugluuk, you have left TNT for no reason. And If anyone feels that they need to name and shame for a 'crime' then look towards another alliance, cos if anyone were to dishonour a 1v1, they would be booted by the CEO of the corp, and if they didnt the corp would be. Thats how we stand, and it has been resolved internally. Fancy moaning more, do it my way.

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Waxau
Liberty Rogues Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.10.12 14:26:00 -
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And ginger - wtf?
Can i point out - You popping hundreds of TNT? It doesnt include back 2 years ago, when you popped them in the same sniping spot you're at now, when they were in shuttles. And need i remind you, that whilst your character is skilled, you as a person are not, otherwise you would have gotten out of that stabbed up sniper mega, and actually done something a bit more...hm.......challenging.

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Ginger Magician
Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2006.10.12 14:33:00 -
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A couple of interesting links:
Linkagehttp://eve.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view.php?type=player&name=Waxau&id=505756&page=1&filter=losses#mail
Linkagehttp://eve.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view.php?type=player&name=Waxau&id=505757&page=1&filter=losses#mail
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.10.12 14:36:00 -
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Oh my ginger - You actually pulled up the only two kills youve had against me, after i came back from a 1 month holiday, and i shot the non-flagged pilot. Oh deary me how uber you are
Its rather ironic tho isnt it, that the only time you boast about kills, are the ones where it was the pilots idiocy (eg - me shooting vickers, and not you by accident) that actually get you the worthy kills eh?
So your successes are my mistakes Beggars cant be choosers i guess eh? 

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stainedguy
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.12 16:35:00 -
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Originally by: Waxau Now this has got me rather *****ed up.
Firstly Gudrodur - You and Palestrina had a 1v1. You and him were NOT in our gang. Our gang was the pvp one, palestrina was the npcer. You asked for 1 v 1 vs him. you got it.
It is entirely your fault for accepting a duel at a planet. Palestrina didnt even tell us it was a 1 v 1. So maybe next time you should 1. Think where you're going to duel (i suggest a ss). 2. Check your facts.
Now ugluuk - im not going to bash you here, but i find it rather childish that you are taking this approach. You should have left this to CEOs to resolve, and not be so immature.
And ginger - wtf who are you talking to about lame? Go on a diet, and stop popping 1 week old mission runners.
Now, i know for a fact that when i log on today, i will recieve a convo. It will be discussing this issue. Now i will have my say:
I was that falcon pilot. And im the one who informed the gang of gudrodurs location. I scanned the planets like any competent pvper does, and found gudrodur - at which point i uncloaked, jammed, and the gang warped in.
We do NOT dishonour PvP, 1 v 1s, or anything else. We discourage smacktalk, and we repremand those that do. Now IF there is a situation which has a form of problem, such as this - Then convo myself, or another CEO of the representing corp. Dont be lame and go onto public forums, and flame the entire alliance for one act. Especially when that act is only viewed in a negative way due to a lack of information, and insight.
Now i will tell you this: Several alliance members are now upset etc regarding 1. Ugluuk leaving TNT, and 2. Being named and shamed on these forums, just due to gudrodur being a spoilt looser, and having a way to 'vent' his anger.
Ofcourse, gudrodur couldnt possibly be posting this in anger, for loosing 2 thanatos, aswell as several Bs in a matter of 10 minutes, out of spite could he?
It actually pains me to see members of the eve community posting here in such a disrespecful manner, regarding people they dont know, about a situation they havent been properly informed about, and when half of them are probably contradicting themselves in their own right.
Ive had my say, and if anyone here wishes to convo me about what happened, or to flame a member of TNT, come to me. I was gang lead of the gang that popped gudrodurs mega, and come to be to ***** about it.
Wax off.
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DUFFMANX
D-Generation X
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Posted - 2006.10.12 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician October snow are scumbags without honour. But dont accept 1v1s unless you are prepared to face multiple enemies.
Fixed that statement for u ginge 
Originally by: dimensionZ The biggest threat we ever had was xirtam mining plagioclase in aridia ...
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Elliott Manchild
omen.
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Posted - 2006.10.12 17:18:00 -
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Edited by: Elliott Manchild on 12/10/2006 17:19:26
Originally by: stainedguy
Originally by: Waxau Now this has got me rather *****ed up.
Firstly Gudrodur - You and Palestrina had a 1v1. You and him were NOT in our gang. Our gang was the pvp one, palestrina was the npcer. You asked for 1 v 1 vs him. you got it.
It is entirely your fault for accepting a duel at a planet. Palestrina didnt even tell us it was a 1 v 1. So maybe next time you should 1. Think where you're going to duel (i suggest a ss). 2. Check your facts.
Now ugluuk - im not going to bash you here, but i find it rather childish that you are taking this approach. You should have left this to CEOs to resolve, and not be so immature.
And ginger - wtf who are you talking to about lame? Go on a diet, and stop popping 1 week old mission runners.
Now, i know for a fact that when i log on today, i will recieve a convo. It will be discussing this issue. Now i will have my say:
I was that falcon pilot. And im the one who informed the gang of gudrodurs location. I scanned the planets like any competent pvper does, and found gudrodur - at which point i uncloaked, jammed, and the gang warped in.
We do NOT dishonour PvP, 1 v 1s, or anything else. We discourage smacktalk, and we repremand those that do. Now IF there is a situation which has a form of problem, such as this - Then convo myself, or another CEO of the representing corp. Dont be lame and go onto public forums, and flame the entire alliance for one act. Especially when that act is only viewed in a negative way due to a lack of information, and insight.
Now i will tell you this: Several alliance members are now upset etc regarding 1. Ugluuk leaving TNT, and 2. Being named and shamed on these forums, just due to gudrodur being a spoilt looser, and having a way to 'vent' his anger.
Ofcourse, gudrodur couldnt possibly be posting this in anger, for loosing 2 thanatos, aswell as several Bs in a matter of 10 minutes, out of spite could he?
It actually pains me to see members of the eve community posting here in such a disrespecful manner, regarding people they dont know, about a situation they havent been properly informed about, and when half of them are probably contradicting themselves in their own right.
Ive had my say, and if anyone here wishes to convo me about what happened, or to flame a member of TNT, come to me. I was gang lead of the gang that popped gudrodurs mega, and come to be to ***** about it.
Wax off.
lol. no wonder Ugluuk left.
Agreed :)
And before you talk about gud getting annoyed at loosing capital ships/bs actually know the guy before you say that if you actually look at how he plays he isn't scared to loose any ships and never has been. I don't know many guys like him.
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.10.12 17:27:00 -
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Edited by: Waxau on 12/10/2006 17:31:33 no - i agree, hes very quick to enter combat, and ill give him kudos for that. However, i dont like it when my friends, alliance members, and gang members are accused of dispicable things, and then everyone else following the persons acusations without hearing the other side.
Oh and elliot - what your saying about gud applies to my gang that day. Know the players and situation before you start badmouthing them.

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Svabbzor
The Kru
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Posted - 2006.10.12 17:45:00 -
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Why are TNT guys calling Gud kid? Warping with a gang in a duel and then calling him kid for making post on forums... :/
Even if it was the "carebears" of your alliance doing it, they're still in the alliance and the alliance will have to take responsible for them. They fly under your flag...
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Ugluuk
Caldari Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.10.12 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Waxau Oh and just to say: Palestrina right now IS (thats a fact, not a wish) not guilty of dishonouring a 1v1. Ugluuk, you have left TNT for no reason.
2006.10.10 03:13:59 ] Palestrina > i wasnt winning [ 2006.10.10 03:14:02 ] Palestrina > but i wasnt in hull [ 2006.10.10 03:14:06 ] Palestrina > and i had killed all his drones [ 2006.10.10 03:14:12 ] Palestrina > and was in warp when my friends showed up [ 2006.10.10 03:14:18 ] Palestrina > then i cancel warp and help killed him
He should stopped the incoming gang..He instead dishonored the 1vs1 and stayed to kill him as he wrote himself..
A pilot with honor would taken action and told people to stop, not help them finish a kill he weren`t getting in the beginning.
And since his "innocence" is still believed in from those outside Alcatraz i am leaving..
And for those who are so concerned about me speaking freely on eve-o, why have a strong opinion and keep it inside? I dont care if it`s an alliance mate or random pilot, if he dishonor a fight like that he aint a pilot i will be compared too..
Therefore i see my point of view as suitable for Eve-O and the public..
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.10.12 17:57:00 -
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we're calling him childish for coming to public forums, moaning, due to an error in his part.
No duel agreement was broken, the only problem that occured was that it took place at a planet, where a pvp gang found them fighting, and joined in. No knowledge at the time indicated it was an agreed 1v1. IF it was held at a safespot, or elsewhere, then Gud wouldnt have lost his ship.
If he decides to not take precautions, then that is his fault, and his fault alone, and should not be pinned on certain alliance members on public forums, where they have little or no defence. Thats what i personally have a problem with.

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Waxau
Liberty Rogues Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.10.12 18:03:00 -
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How could he have stopped which he didnt knwo about? He didnt know about the gang coming in. I was gang lead, and we all thought palestrina was docked. And the fact that you're posting an internal matter on these boards, just proves where you're lacking.
Sorry folks if i seem offensive, but this event has got me rather riled

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