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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2003.10.29 11:27:00 -
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I am curious to know who the actual women are in the Eve universe. I know of plenty of Female characters who are men, but have only ever chatted to one actual female player. If you are a woman please let yourself be known.
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Hackett
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Posted - 2003.10.29 11:34:00 -
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You're on the pull, aren't you
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.10.29 11:34:00 -
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You want my ******* phone number and vital stats as well???
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Ariell Lucinwind
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Posted - 2003.10.29 11:39:00 -
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You're on the pull, aren't you
That was a similar thought I just had also.
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Ariell Lucinwind
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Posted - 2003.10.29 12:23:00 -
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I wonder if he is after something like this..........
Hi, I am a girl, and I am single, my ambition in life is to live in the home and never leave while being chained to the bed, the kitchen and your PC. So I can server you food while you play.
My hobbies are watching guys play computers games, watching foot ball, thinking about naval lint and motor cars and rough sports.
My star sign is Scorpio and my favorite number is 69.
I am tall, not as tall as you, athletic and voluptuous with curves in all the right places. But most of all, I ..........
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threeD
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Posted - 2003.10.29 12:24:00 -
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Well, I think the solution here is obvious - if you want to talk to women, play the Sims online.. if you want to talk to a man in a dress, play eve. ;)
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CT BadIronTree
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Posted - 2003.10.29 12:30:00 -
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Ariell Lucinwind marry me :P
well im 2.02 meters.... so if you are 1.98 i want you....
axxxxx i Need to find a new tall girl
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Detron
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Posted - 2003.10.29 12:37:00 -
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No women in this game, just kids :)
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Sybylle
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Posted - 2003.10.29 12:38:00 -
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This is a least the 4th thread started on this subject since the release...
May be some guys need to know, if they fall in love with a female avatar, who is behind of it...
That just make me laught each time such topics pop up
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sutty
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Posted - 2003.10.29 12:39:00 -
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larrna of evolution is a lady :D
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.10.29 12:42:00 -
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Well, I think the solution here is obvious - if you want to talk to women, play the Sims online..
Or you could try going out to a bar.
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2003.10.29 12:52:00 -
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Well done all for answering my question with a bag of s**t. Was it not a legitimate question to ask?
Maybe it is the fear of finding out a female avatar is a man after I have dropped a line of some sort, or maybe it is because I wouldn't mind chatting to a woman for a change. If this makes me sad, immature, lonely, desperate and looking for a slave then so be it. As you all seem to know me who am I to argue.
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Hackett
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Posted - 2003.10.29 12:53:00 -
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I wonder if he is after something like this..........
Hi, I am a girl, and I am single, my ambition in life is to live in the home and never leave while being chained to the bed, the kitchen and your PC. So I can server you food while you play.
My hobbies are watching guys play computers games, watching foot ball, thinking about naval lint and motor cars and rough sports.
My star sign is Scorpio and my favorite number is 69.
I am tall, not as tall as you, athletic and voluptuous with curves in all the right places. But most of all, I ..........
Well, I don't know about the other geezer but if u said you would bring me beer as well as food while I played Eve then there was a marriage proposal coming your way
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Hackett
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Posted - 2003.10.29 12:55:00 -
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if you want to talk to a man in a dress, play eve. ;)
Or speak to my corpmate Thrak.
Sorry son
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threeD
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Posted - 2003.10.29 12:57:00 -
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Well, I think the solution here is obvious - if you want to talk to women, play the Sims online..
Or you could try going out to a bar.
OR you could go to a bar, yes.. yes, the bar idea is definatly better.. they have beer as well..
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Albar Gray
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Posted - 2003.10.29 13:02:00 -
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Edited by: Albar Gray on 30/10/2003 07:29:37
On another track, I wonder if there are any women playing male characters, just to avoid all the chat up lines of course
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Ariell Lucinwind
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Posted - 2003.10.29 13:02:00 -
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This line.....
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Maybe it is the fear of finding out a female avatar is a man after I have dropped a line of some sort, or maybe it is because I wouldn't mind chatting to a woman for a change.
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This line....
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You're on the pull, aren't you
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Your in the wrong game for the opposite sex chit chats love.
If you really want to talk to some one and of the opposite sex. You should go out more. I rarely trust the sex of some one until I speak with them on the phone or see them in person. And seeing some one in person from the net has never happened with me as it is something I dont plan on doing.
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.10.29 13:05:00 -
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On another track, I wonder if there are any woment playing male characters, just to avoid all the chat up lines of course
I'm really tempted after a thread on this topic, again.
I'm more curious if there are female pvpers, is that girl in Evo a bit active?
This is not a hijack
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2003.10.29 13:20:00 -
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Ok, screw it who cares if they are men or women each to thier own. Seems questions of this type hit many nerves so it seems pointless to even ask and expect an answer.
For anyone who needs to know just so I can fit the stereotype I have been labeled, in RL I am a computer programmer who lives on my own with a cat and a hamster and buy meals for one every night. Infact I haven't spoken to a woman outside of work for 3 years and go red when they are within 3feet of me.
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Ch'ryl
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Posted - 2003.10.29 13:30:00 -
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I'm a woman. I got into the game because of my husband (I decided it was more fun to join him than to watch him play ) and even I am curious as to how many of the female faces out there really are women. So far I've met one in-game who was (dunno if she is still in the game, t00r was her name and she was a one woman pirate corp when I met her). I don't usually ask, just in case someone takes offence, but I've got to the stage where I automatically assume each female face is a guy unless I find out otherwise.
And in answer to Lianhuan's question, I don't actively go looking for pvp as yet, and I don't intend becoming a pirate, but I haven't run away from pvp when it has come my way either (unless you call warping out in an indy and asking the guy to wait while I come back in something that can fight back running away )
Why is it that when someone tells you that there are over a billion stars in the universe, you believe them, but if they tell you there is wet paint somewhere, you have to touch it to make sure? |
Lady Evil
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Posted - 2003.10.29 13:30:00 -
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Can't we all just play games and have fun like you guys without being chatted up?
Girls play games too, and don't want over testosteroned, socially disfunctional lonely guys wielding their joysticks at us when all we wanna do is mine a bit of scordite.
Can it please stop or some of us will start posting chat up convos.
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2003.10.29 13:36:00 -
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I'm a woman. I got into the game because of my husband (I decided it was more fun to join him than to watch him play ) and even I am curious as to how many of the female faces out there really are women.
At last I get some one answering without judging my social status. And to all the flammers out there how do you explain a lady wanting to know what does that make her?
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Ch'ryl
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Posted - 2003.10.29 13:37:00 -
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Edited by: Ch'ryl on 29/10/2003 13:40:56
stupid duplicated posts :P
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2003.10.29 13:37:00 -
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Can't we all just play games and have fun like you guys without being chatted up?
Girls play games too, and don't want over testosteroned, socially disfunctional lonely guys wielding their joysticks at us when all we wanna do is mine a bit of scordite.
Can it please stop or some of us will start posting chat up convos.
I have no real intention of chatting up any of the real women on here. Yes I may act slightly different but not in any sexual way. I have a flirtatious nature and like what woman have to say, but not sad enough to digress into the dodgy cyber world.
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Rholena Arx
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Posted - 2003.10.29 13:39:00 -
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I`m a girl...I play games all the time, especially with myself
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Tagren
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Posted - 2003.10.29 13:45:00 -
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*puts on skirt and lipstick*
I can be one if you want me to. I feel very femaleish right now... In touch with with my softer side...
To prove it, send me isk and I can make them dissapear in 2 min at the mall. Serious.
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.10.29 13:56:00 -
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nothing compared to my magic with creditcards
This is not a hijack
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Griffin Smith
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Posted - 2003.10.29 14:05:00 -
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Lady's and gentlemen, reguardless of what u see as the avatar of the character, u can generally tell if ur talking to a female or male by how they frame there answers (if they r adults :)).
This is in spontainious chat about everything.
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Hackett
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Posted - 2003.10.29 14:07:00 -
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nothing compared to my magic with creditcards
I bet my ex could give u a run for your money. Oh no that would be a run for MY money
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2003.10.29 14:09:00 -
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Edited by: Bad Harlequin on 29/10/2003 14:10:40
think of this as an opportunity to look beyond appearances, old son...
seriously tho... dont even worry about it. Completely irrelvant. As someone who got to see firsthand the emergence of the "someone i met online" phenomenon between 90-92... including friends who fell for that wonderful delusion that someone you got on with in text could be someone you'd like to meet... *shudder* *twitch* *runs screaming from room...*
If you're flirty, be yourself, and those who care will respond. Simple, yesno? Just don't buy any freakin' Greyhound tickets...
edit: are there any books on this subject? it's quite a weird little social blip, before it got bogged down in the media-fueled "chatroom monsters will eat all your kids" scares of the mid to late 90s.
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Kalroth
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Posted - 2003.10.29 14:12:00 -
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On topic
I know of several "real" females ingame, so they are out there. They aren't that rare, most just doesn't want to give you an honest answer if you ask them. For good reasons too.
Off topic
Personally it doesn't really matter for me, it is a roleplaying game afterall. I act the same towards both male and female players, although I am a sucker for a well equipped female, specially those in battleships. :-)
I guess it would be easier if CCP had implemented only transvesite avatars, no males or females. That way there'd be no confusion what so ever. ;)
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Griffin Smith
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Posted - 2003.10.29 14:14:00 -
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sorry just wasteing space atm
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Rholena Arx
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Posted - 2003.10.29 14:19:00 -
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Griffi...get back to work
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2003.10.29 14:21:00 -
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On topic
I know of several "real" females ingame, so they are out there. They aren't that rare, most just doesn't want to give you an honest answer if you ask them. For good reasons too.
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Why do they need to hide. I thought at least in RL both sex's were equal and there was no need to hide your sexuality. Is Eve that much different, surely it is a good place for women in so much as if they do get some s**t from a guy they have some way of acting the way they sometimes would like and wasting his sorry ass.
It is all just a personal opinion, I role play as much as I can but like to know if the women avatars are RL women.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.10.29 14:30:00 -
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On topic
I know of several "real" females ingame, so they are out there. They aren't that rare, most just doesn't want to give you an honest answer if you ask them. For good reasons too.
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Why do they need to hide. I thought at least in RL both sex's were equal and there was no need to hide your sexuality. Is Eve that much different, surely it is a good place for women in so much as if they do get some s**t from a guy they have some way of acting the way they sometimes would like and wasting his sorry ass.
It is all just a personal opinion, I role play as much as I can but like to know if the women avatars are RL women.
The answer to your question
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2003.10.29 14:35:00 -
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The answer to your question
What does that have to do with it, are you saying women are not strong enough to defend themselves against such verbal attacks? Men are subjected to the same sort of grief aswell so we all have to deal with it.
From that little cartoon it looks like it payed off to be a woman, as she had the upperhand at the end off it all!
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Sybylle
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Posted - 2003.10.29 14:52:00 -
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Serious answer...
It doesn't mind to know if you are speaking to a true male or a true female...This shouldn't be included in your relanshionship with another player. Even if it's your preference to know about it, remember that the other guy/girl you're speaking to won't tell it to you if he/she doesn't want to.
The avatar is a picture of what the player wants to play and wants to be considered ingame by other players...
I play both female and male character.
With a female character, ppl seems to be more cool...You can get prices or gift sometimes and if you do something wrong, you can be forgiven because being a woman...Like in RL
A male character is better for authority and bad actions  .
I like RPG because you can play the role of the other sex...
These kind of posts are reccurent
And my answer is still the same
-ingame :both
-RL Guess it
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threeD
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Posted - 2003.10.29 14:53:00 -
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Ok, screw it who cares if they are men or women each to thier own. Seems questions of this type hit many nerves so it seems pointless to even ask and expect an answer.
For anyone who needs to know just so I can fit the stereotype I have been labeled, in RL I am a computer programmer who lives on my own with a cat and a hamster and buy meals for one every night. Infact I haven't spoken to a woman outside of work for 3 years and go red when they are within 3feet of me.
WOOOOOAAAAH, EASY tiger.
From what I could tell all the posts were just ppl having a laugh not a flame. It seems to me that the only nerves that have been hit are your own, chief.
Interestingly though, this is just like the Turing Test's 'Imitation Game' (except with male and female players, instead of a computer..)
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As part of his argument Turing put forward the idea of an 'imitation game', in which a human being and a computer would be interrogated under conditions where the interrogator would not know which was which, the communication being entirely by textual messages. Turing argued that if the interrogator could not distinguish them by questioning, then it would be unreasonable not to call the computer intelligent.
- http://www.turing.org.uk/turing/scrapbook/test.html
so, if the you cant distinguish a female player by talking to them in game, its unreasonable not to assume they are actually a female... err.. I guess... :)
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Xenovetica
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Posted - 2003.10.29 14:57:00 -
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There's another category here that's been overlooked: men who play women, who act like RL women, so that they can get freebies.
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Koda
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Posted - 2003.10.29 15:17:00 -
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In answering the original poster:
My wife plays as she adopted a "if you can't beat them, join them" attitude towards Eve.
She doesn't portray herself as anything but what God made her and even used her feminine wiles in a bid to recruit a new member (the chat-log was hysterical!).
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wamingo
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Posted - 2003.10.29 15:19:00 -
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Edited by: wamingo on 29/10/2003 15:21:35
No matter how genuine, this kind of thread always scares me a bit, like if someone here responds as a female, pretending to be a female, but is technically a male transvestite who's planning a sexchange with a l.esbian or bisexual sex preference...
so... I'm male... and if you're female, you just stay the hell away from me 'cos I'm not taking any chances, thank you very much! ;)
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Ch'ryl
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Posted - 2003.10.29 15:36:00 -
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I don't know if I would play a guy character, I don't think so. I mean, most people assume I'm a guy anyway so I don't see what difference it makes.
Although I don't care who knows I'm a woman, I don't think it matters either way whether the person I'm talking to is male or female. I treat everyone the same, regardless of their avatar. I am curious though, to know how many of us there are in the game, merely to see if women playing these games are as rare an occurence as it appears.
Why is it that when someone tells you that there are over a billion stars in the universe, you believe them, but if they tell you there is wet paint somewhere, you have to touch it to make sure? |
Charity Regard
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Posted - 2003.10.29 15:49:00 -
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I am another woman who started playing the game after watching & playing my husband's character for several months. For me, it wasn't an "if I can't beat him, join him" decision, it was simply a matter of things that I would say or do would never be things that he would say or do in the game and I didnt want anything that I would do or say to affect how he looks in the game.
I am having a fantastic time playing EVE as a woman. I am feminine, flirty, strong, fun, intelligent and VERY different from a man. I have no problem with people knowing that I am a real-life woman. It simply isn't that hard to turn down someone who wants to take things over the line of good-natured fun.
I am quite open and upfront about the fact that I am indeed a RL woman. I can't help myself but to be intensely curious about how many other RL woman play the game, so I ask people all the time. Does it matter one way or the other? No. Am I curious? Very. It is true that people dont want to give that information willingly and if that is how you feel I understand. For me though, I want to be known and appreciated for the fact that I am indeed a woman.
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Sybylle
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Posted - 2003.10.29 16:04:00 -
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Ch'ryl : I think male are always looking for female in games, as few of them play video games.
Eve was supposed to attract more women as there is a social apsect in managing corporation, managing relation between members, corps...
Even in beta it was the same. If your avatar looks like a female, a male will often ask if you really are a female quickly, whereas a girl won't ask or asks later
Pychian Vanervi : I know guys that are female and female that are guys ingame... It's human to play the opposite sex i think. I have never asked so far if my female m8 are really female, and honestly I don't care.
If I play with them, it's because I like what they do, what they think and how they role-play.
Even if you try to evaluate how many players are female ingame, you won't get a clear and defenitive number unless you are CCP (credit card ID)... So, IMO, your post is like the others on the subject (not usefull) and will end like the others (no clear answer).
I'm not flamming...Just considering that it's better to play the game than trying to know who's who...It's another game
And anyway, you can easily find out if your mate is really a she...Just by the sentences construction and word usage. We try always to make clear and complete sentences, no abreviations and bad words (well, sometimes we do also )
Hoping I've been clear ennought (English is my 3rd language...)
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(> <)=Oveur (proof)
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.10.29 16:18:00 -
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I have actually done a study of male/female demographics for my MA (cultural studies).
There is a clear distinction between east/west social dynamics that dictate male/female ratio numbers for video games.
In the East, Japan for example, living expenses and leisure activities are considerably higher than in the west, therefore video games are seen as a viable and acceptable form of leisure activity. The ratio's of men and women playing video games in Japan are very close, some sources state 45/55 women/men.
In the West, due to cheaper, more affordable out door leisure activities, plus the stigma that is attached to any kind of indoor activity (bar sex!), has lead to a far greater delineation between male/female videogame take up. There are other sociological and psychological factors involved, but the general perception of videogame playing in the West is that its mainly a male activity. Also, men dominate the videogame industry in the West and their influence on videogame content has exacerbated the situation. Men make games for men. In Japan, RPG's and puzzle games are the most popular games, and these have a proven record of being more attractive content and format to women - which also contributes to the high number of videogame consumption in Japan.
But things are changing in the West and as more game formats go online, the social aspect of videogaming could yet attract more women to videogames in the west.
Miso x
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2003.10.29 16:24:00 -
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Ch'ryl : I think male are always looking for female in games, as few of them play video games.
Eve was supposed to attract more women as there is a social apsect in managing corporation, managing relation between members, corps...
Even in beta it was the same. If your avatar looks like a female, a male will often ask if you really are a female quickly, whereas a girl won't ask or asks later
Pychian Vanervi : I know guys that are female and female that are guys ingame... It's human to play the opposite sex i think. I have never asked so far if my female m8 are really female, and honestly I don't care.
If I play with them, it's because I like what they do, what they think and how they role-play.
Even if you try to evaluate how many players are female ingame, you won't get a clear and defenitive number unless you are CCP (credit card ID)... So, IMO, your post is like the others on the subject (not usefull) and will end like the others (no clear answer).
I'm not flamming...Just considering that it's better to play the game than trying to know who's who...It's another game
And anyway, you can easily find out if your mate is really a she...Just by the sentences construction and word usage. We try always to make clear and complete sentences, no abreviations and bad words (well, sometimes we do also )
Hoping I've been clear ennought (English is my 3rd language...)
I have realised that I am not going to get an answer to how many women play Eve and to be truthful I don't care now. What I have found is that the women who do play or at least the ones who have posted are strong enough to be happy playing a female character and playing them well by the sounds of things. I personally would like to see more in game, as in RL it adds so much diversity and interest to the world.
(I am currently burning my wifes bra)
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Sybylle
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Posted - 2003.10.29 16:32:00 -
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I think if you encounter a woman avatar ingame you got 70% chances it's a man...
If you encounter a man avatar, you got 5% chances it's a female.
I have no sources for that, but it's my feeling on that.
And yes, women are strong and proud of it
Why we shouldn't?
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(> <)=Oveur (proof)
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Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2003.10.29 16:39:00 -
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I'm more curious if there are female pvpers, is that girl in Evo a bit active?
We have 3 women in Oberon, and 2 of them do PvP whenever they can. In fact one of those even participated in the big battle in P-FS last saturday.
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.10.29 16:39:00 -
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To be honest, it shouldn't make a blind bit of difference what sex someone is in Eve, just as race and ethnicity is not relevent. There is also the issue that players want to RP a char, and if that happends to be one of the opposite sex, then so be it. Maybe players should take each other on avatar value and go with that. I personally, do not wish to know what sex a person is in RL. I prefer to keep things within the context of the game. Afterall, its escapism afterall
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Charity Regard
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Posted - 2003.10.29 16:41:00 -
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Miso,
What interesting information you provided in your post. I have to say that not unexpectedly, I do rather enjoy graphic adventure games for their content, visuals and social interaction (with a character, you can relate to, empathize with, want to get to know, etc). Some recent examples would be the Longest Journey and also Syberia.
It also rings true for me that what appealed to me about EVE was the social/online interaction within the universe. The fact that you as a player can affect your surroundings and contribute to the community. It is an evolving and fluid enviroment and that is something that I love.
Anyhow, just thought your post and findings were interesting.
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Hikaru Okuda
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Posted - 2003.10.29 16:41:00 -
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How many threads are there on this topic now?
Since the characters are represented as male or female, I will refer to a female character as "she" and a male character as "he"--even if I know the RL person's gender is different. I'll do that in any game where you have gendered characters just to stay immersed in the game universe. Now if someone has a preference in how I refer to their character, then I will respect their wishes. I just want to have fun playing the game with other people who want to have fun. And we should have people of all types to make the game world more alive and diverse.
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.10.29 16:55:00 -
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Miso,
What interesting information you provided in your post. I have to say that not unexpectedly, I do rather enjoy graphic adventure games for their content, visuals and social interaction (with a character, you can relate to, empathize with, want to get to know, etc). Some recent examples would be the Longest Journey and also Syberia.
It also rings true for me that what appealed to me about EVE was the social/online interaction within the universe. The fact that you as a player can affect your surroundings and contribute to the community. It is an evolving and fluid enviroment and that is something that I love.
Anyhow, just thought your post and findings were interesting.
Feel free to convo me in-game if you want to discuss this further - I'm more than happy to talk about it more if you're interested...
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Sequin
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Posted - 2003.10.29 17:30:00 -
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Finnaly, some quotes worthy of my sig.
^A Raem Civre Original
EVE-Trade, for your buying and selling needs. A Voogru original.
[i]Redon > evol and mass have a GM helping them with everything
Redon > notice how they always get ships replaced and none of us cant <--- Hurray for teamwork!
b]
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.10.29 18:32:00 -
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To be honest, it shouldn't make a blind bit of difference what sex someone is in Eve, just as race and ethnicity is not relevent. There is also the issue that players want to RP a char, and if that happends to be one of the opposite sex, then so be it. Maybe players should take each other on avatar value and go with that. I personally, do not wish to know what sex a person is in RL. I prefer to keep things within the context of the game. Afterall, its escapism afterall
Which was the point behind the comic from CtrlAltDel that the original poster chose to misinterpret.
My last ex was an avid FPS fan. She'd easily kick my ass in most FPS games (cept JK). I'm more of a RTS person. Because of our dissimiliar interests it made deciding what to do in our free time a lot easier:
Screw like mad bunnies cause we both loved sex
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
SpawnOfEvil
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Posted - 2003.10.29 19:38:00 -
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If you want to see a good inpersonation of a women read Phaz's posts and chats in EVE...
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Ballistic Angel
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Posted - 2003.10.29 20:51:00 -
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To answer your question Pychian Vanervi I am a woman. And I donÆt think it is a stupid question either, we are here but itÆs usually not worth the time or the hassle to post about it. The nice thing about this game is you can actually block annoying people who eve-mail you trying to do an Internet pickup line or something. Although the majority of gamers are male there are several female players that play many types of the same games that men do. Personally I canÆt stand the Sims games, talk about boring! I prefer games like MOH and its expansions, Eve, and such (this is the only game I play thatÆs not a fps). IÆm hooked on gaming and itÆs not good day unless I can shoot something or blow something up.
Lianhuan, yes I do PvP although IÆm not a ôpirateö.
Miso, thatÆs interesting! I wonder what games the Japanese women play because I usually only run into another female player rarely. It would be great to actually outnumber or be in even numbers to the men for once! I was in a gaming club for women a year or so ago but left because it was difficult to find others that played the same games. IÆm glad to see there is more than one of us left in this game, all the ones I knew have left for one reason or another.
As far as the group of people who think that ALL the people who play Eve as female pcs are men in disguise, there is little that can be done to change your minds and thatÆs fine with me. I honestly donÆt care what you think. Realistically when you have literally thousands of subscribers to a game there is always going to be a percentage of women players. Does that mean we like to be hassled when we do answer posts or questions like this? Definitely not, I have too much to do in game besides watch my mail fill up with useless garbage or decline chat invitations from the clueless.
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GraveDigger
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Posted - 2003.10.29 21:16:00 -
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If your a guy playing a woman character, you suck :)
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Ballistic Angel
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Posted - 2003.10.29 22:14:00 -
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Ricardus
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Posted - 2003.10.30 08:07:00 -
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As an older person, i'm no longer worried about "RL male or female?" stuff... but thanks to my long EQ experince, i found that girls are fun to play alongside if yer more interested in playing the game instead of reaching a definite goal.
Atleast i had way more fun moving around in EQ lands with my guildee Rae (who had a 25 year old married daughter also on the guild) getting always lost :)
Much more fun than being with most "I want to get lvl 65 fast! I want to have ubber equip!" guys in the guild.
Anyways, to me what matters is to have fun in a game, either yer having or yer not having... and in that case knowing who is men or women won't change it.
Besides being fun to play alongside, they tend to win verbal sparrs... nasty critters these women be! ;)
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Theodin
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Posted - 2003.10.30 13:16:00 -
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Why don't the men play male characters and the females play female character. No matter what anyone says I have chatted to guy who say the wanted to see it from a womans point of view but thats crap. Because they don't play the woman through role play they just expect the picture to change attitudes.
Why hide just be who you are!!
Where are the hero's and the brave, we live in a galaxy of fools and cowards |
Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2003.10.30 14:25:00 -
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Just my 0.02c
My char. is male, and he flirts with most of the female chars. he runs across. What gender the person behind the character might happen to be is irrelevant, because it's not ME doing the flirting, it's Baldour.
If more people could be bothered to look up the definiton of "role playing", this whole question would never arise. I guess it's far too much to ask that the general population show some vague semblance of intelligence, though
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Severe McCald
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Posted - 2003.10.30 15:57:00 -
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Why don't the men play male characters and the females play female character. No matter what anyone says I have chatted to guy who say the wanted to see it from a womans point of view but thats crap. Because they don't play the woman through role play they just expect the picture to change attitudes.
Why hide just be who you are!!
Yeah. Wot he said. I am indeed a starship pilot who looks like Lemmie (from Of Mice and Men). I just happen to enjoy playing a game exactly like my real life!
Damn, my intelligence implant is on the blink again.
SM
And Moses was content to dwell with the man:and he gave Moses Zipporah his daughter. And she bare him a son, and he called his name Gershom:for he said, I have been a stranger in a strange land. |
Theodin
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Posted - 2003.10.30 16:22:00 -
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Yeah. Wot he said. I am indeed a starship pilot who looks like Lemmie (from Of Mice and Men). I just happen to enjoy playing a game exactly like my real life!
Damn, my intelligence implant is on the blink again.
SM
But you are male and your character is male, you will find it a lot easier to play a different personna than a different sexuality.
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Severe McCald
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Posted - 2003.10.30 16:41:00 -
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Who said I had to be easy?
SM
And Moses was content to dwell with the man:and he gave Moses Zipporah his daughter. And she bare him a son, and he called his name Gershom:for he said, I have been a stranger in a strange land. |
Theodin
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Posted - 2003.10.30 16:45:00 -
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Who said I had to be easy?
SM
You would have to be looking like you do!!!
Although I am not one to talk.
Where are the hero's and the brave, we live in a galaxy of fools and cowards |
Dark Nyte
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Posted - 2003.10.30 17:21:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Nyte on 30/10/2003 17:22:56
Edited by: Dark Nyte on 30/10/2003 17:22:07
Sorry How would a woman (RL) playing a woman character play the game in any given situation that differently from a man(RL) playing a woman ? (unless the man start talking about how he fancy's bird-X and wants to give her a right good rog...ing (however i really mean in gameplay not convo's)
Because its a game it doesn't have the same boundries or social rules we have to apply to ok so in a pub a man might shout about a fart and woman might try to hide the fact she did it because of the social rules or society but in a game, would her character care or have to hide it ? but being a man what the hell would i know... about it...
I would like to know though if the women think they play the game differently to men and how so...
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Ballistic Angel
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Posted - 2003.10.30 18:00:00 -
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I would like to know though if the women think they play the game differently to men and how so...
The main difference I have seen is the men usually want to be the highest level fast as possible, min/max, take advantage of everything possible style of players. I am speaking for myself personally here, but I play the game to have fun, enjoy doing whatever I decide to do at the moment, and converse with different people from different places. Some nights its more fun to just chat then it is to play, some nights I would prefer to not say anything at all and just do what I logged in to do. I often find myself being helped by guys when it comes to questions I have that pertain to parts of the game I admittedly donÆt understand which is great. I also do my part in answering questions about other things they donÆt understand and I do. So to answer your question yes I think the style of play is different but complementary to each other in most cases.
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Xenovetica
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Posted - 2003.11.05 15:26:00 -
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Erm, I'm female. I could use some damage mod's boys!
Simple way to weed out the trannies: TeamSpeak.
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.11.05 15:52:00 -
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2 days ago I talked to a miner in the system for a bit, we mostly talked about rl thinsg and have some girls are just fishing for compliments.
He asked me if I was a girl, and I told him the thruth.We chatted some more, and last night he gave me a gift.
A blackbird, because I like them soo much. 
I also like people, but i dont go around sending them isk or ships. So I'm curious why he gave me that ship, yet I have a feeling I dont want to know the real reason.
This is not a hijack
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.11.05 15:55:00 -
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2 days ago I talked to a miner in the system for a bit, we mostly talked about rl thinsg and have some girls are just fishing for compliments.
He asked me if I was a girl, and I told him the thruth.We chatted some more, and last night he gave me a gift.
A blackbird, because I like them soo much.
I also like people, but i dont go around sending them isk or ships. So I'm curious why he gave me that ship, yet I have a feeling I dont want to know the real reason.
That would concern me too.
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.11.05 16:08:00 -
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2 days ago I talked to a miner in the system for a bit, we mostly talked about rl thinsg and have some girls are just fishing for compliments.
He asked me if I was a girl, and I told him the thruth.We chatted some more, and last night he gave me a gift.
A blackbird, because I like them soo much.
I also like people, but i dont go around sending them isk or ships. So I'm curious why he gave me that ship, yet I have a feeling I dont want to know the real reason.
ROLFLMAO A miner gave you a blckbird because you like them so much? Please tell me you podded him. It would have been quicker for him to shoot himself.
/me Prays Please let him get ganked by SI at a jump in point.
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2003.11.05 16:13:00 -
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"concern" is one word... "therapy" comes to mind as well. "" works too...
You are in a maze of twisty little asteroids, all alike. |
Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.11.05 16:20:00 -
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Its currently not advised for me to gank him, political.
Its very ackward, on the one hand you want to believe its just a friendly thing, on the other I bloody hell know why and find it disturbing.
But this kind of attention is also the reason why I have no yet posted pictures of moi on SI forums. It makes things ackward.
And I think girls who go out and beg for gifts and modules aren't gamers, its sad if you find pride in being some weird escort girl.
If I gave this miner my 8 harvesters for free, will it give the wrong suggestion?
This is not a hijack
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.11.05 16:23:00 -
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Seriously mate, just be careful.
There are some people who see anything at all, no matter now innocuous, as encouragment.
But thats at one extreme. Its probably nothing. Just play it by ear.
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.11.05 16:27:00 -
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Miso, I have encounter the rare psycho's in PA.
I'm never going to any meeting unless protected by my big bad bf, and even then I'll say hi and bye.
So, I think I'll be podding me back to my agents station to hang in local there.
Anyone in need for harvesters?
This is not a hijack
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.11.05 16:47:00 -
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Its currently not advised for me to gank him, political.
Its very ackward, on the one hand you want to believe its just a friendly thing, on the other I bloody hell know why and find it disturbing.
But this kind of attention is also the reason why I have no yet posted pictures of moi on SI forums. It makes things ackward.
And I think girls who go out and beg for gifts and modules aren't gamers, its sad if you find pride in being some weird escort girl.
If I gave this miner my 8 harvesters for free, will it give the wrong suggestion?
You can never know what sex someone is even if they did post a picture. Then even if you did know if you have to give something to anybody to get them to like you thats very sad. I mean I've given stuff to people in EVE i don't want to know what sex they are in RL because it gets weird after that.
PS I'll take those harvies....
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.11.05 16:49:00 -
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Miso, I have encounter the rare psycho's in PA.
I'm never going to any meeting unless protected by my big bad bf, and even then I'll say hi and bye.
So, I think I'll be podding me back to my agents station to hang in local there.
Anyone in need for harvesters?
That's sad you might miss out on some freinds and fun because some people might get the wrong ideas. What a stupid world.
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Hackett
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Posted - 2003.11.05 16:57:00 -
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I must admit I have seen some bizzare things happen. I'n a previous Online clan which I was forum mod for we had a 'post your pic' section which everyone did. Didnt seem to be much harm in it at the time. Then one of our female members poster her pic. Cue various carry-on film stlye 'cooors' and 'woof-woofs' from the lads which she didn't seem to mind.
It was only when someone later discovered that the pics where not of her but in fact of some supermodel (cant remember who now) that it went pear-shaped. People took the p*ss - she quit the clan, after one of the council received a bitter but depressing e-mail.
So yeah - it can be a dangerous cyber world.
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.11.05 17:07:00 -
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I think you should accept people at face value in a game and leave it at that. If they choose to lie and make themselves looks stupid, then thats upto them.
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Mitawyn
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Posted - 2003.11.05 18:57:00 -
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Hi, this is my first time posting to any of the forums, so be kind.
I am female, 100%, all the time, in Eve and out of it. Before 3 months ago, I had never heard of the game, but love computers and especially am intrigued by graphics, the more the better. I happened to be watching over someone's shoulder one day when they were playing the game, and decided I had to have a go at it.
Went out and bought a new computer that could handle it, the software, and have been happily mining, buying, selling, and npc killing ever since.
I am pretty much an open book so if anyone wants to convo me in game, feel free. If I like you, we will talk, if I don't, we won't.
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kc51
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Posted - 2003.11.05 19:51:00 -
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If your a guy playing a woman character, you suck :)
LOLOL, that's awesome!!!!
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Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2003.11.05 20:11:00 -
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All I gotta say is: If you're a guy and you choose to play a female avatar, don't be offended when I refer to you using feminine pronouns like "she" or "her." Even if I know you're a guy, I think of you as being your character. I know a few female characters who are played by males, and no matter how often they or their corpmates object, those characters are always going to be fems in-game as far as I'm concerned. If you don't want me saying "she" in reference to your character, choose a male avater.
Of course, I enjoy the RP aspect of the game. I may despise your character with a passion that moves me to haunt your every waking breath in the game, and then buy you a beer in RL. It's all part of the game. The problem is the players who have no grasp of RP, and are too focused on the RL social interaction they wish was in the game.
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anora
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Posted - 2003.11.05 21:46:00 -
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ok i'll reply to, i'm a woman in RL and i play a pirate in eve.
what i am woundering is, what does it matter if you are a man or woman when play online games ?
or is it assumed that only men are able to play these games?
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.11.05 22:15:00 -
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it matters because of the roleplaying aspect of this game, and soem guys hate it when they have the feeling they got ganked by a girl
This is not a hijack
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.11.06 00:11:00 -
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it matters because of the roleplaying aspect of this game, and soem guys hate it when they have the feeling they got ganked by a girl
Thats just silly.
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.11.06 00:14:00 -
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you should have seen the insult I got
on the harvsters you need to wait a few days before I can enter 1.0 space again 
This is not a hijack
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2003.11.06 00:27:00 -
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Edited by: Rizmordan Hillgotlieb on 06/11/2003 00:28:25
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Well, I think the solution here is obvious - if you want to talk to women, play the Sims online.. if you want to talk to a man in a dress, play eve. ;)
ROFLMAO.... *SNAP!!* OH GOD!! THAT WAS A RIB!!!
OHHOHOHOHEHEHEHE (unless you're a Scot - then it's a KILT mate!
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2003.11.06 00:41:00 -
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On another track, I wonder if there are any woment playing male characters, just to avoid all the chat up lines of course
I'm really tempted after a thread on this topic, again.
I'm more curious if there are female pvpers, is that girl in Evo a bit active?
SOHAIL from Biomass Cartel is quite the PVPr...
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.11.06 01:08:00 -
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you should have seen the insult I got
on the harvsters you need to wait a few days before I can enter 1.0 space again
meh Empire space is scary. I try not to go there.
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DJDoby
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Posted - 2003.11.06 02:00:00 -
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Or speak to my corpmate Thrak.
having met thrak i can vouch that he is just a cheap tranny :)
Senior Producer
ingame chat: eve-radio
IRC: irc.coldfront.net #eve-radio
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Xenovetica
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Posted - 2003.11.06 05:22:00 -
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Alright, that's it. From now on, I kill all IRL "female" pilots.
Keep Eve ghey! Down with trannies!
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Grikl
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Posted - 2003.11.06 05:29:00 -
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its 4:15 in the afternoon
I put some tape on the hole
I took some Tylenol feeling better
kill the women in MASS and you shal pay
Mass
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Lifewire
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Posted - 2003.11.06 08:46:00 -
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Be real: womans arent interested in computers, spacecombat games and ISK (they prefer $$$). But - as long we have carebears we have players acting like girls - thats ok
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Hackett
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Posted - 2003.11.06 09:23:00 -
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it matters because of the roleplaying aspect of this game, and soem guys hate it when they have the feeling they got ganked by a girl
I'm always getting ganked by women in real life so its much better in-game
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2003.11.06 09:50:00 -
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I will be the first to admit if I have made an error of judgement. I possibly looked too far into someting when realy it is only the surface that counts. My initial feeling on Men playing female characters has changed. I can see now that it doesn't matters if the player is a male or female behind the character and what sex they play is pretty irrelivent. You can only take someone at face value on eve and anything said can be as false as it is true, so why should I get bogged down by issues before you even say 'hi'.
So to all I may have offended with my initial feeling I apologise.
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.11.06 11:22:00 -
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I will be the first to admit if I have made an error of judgement. I possibly looked too far into someting when realy it is only the surface that counts. My initial feeling on Men playing female characters has changed. I can see now that it doesn't matters if the player is a male or female behind the character and what sex they play is pretty irrelivent. You can only take someone at face value on eve and anything said can be as false as it is true, so why should I get bogged down by issues before you even say 'hi'.
So to all I may have offended with my initial feeling I apologise.
Yep, sex is irrelevent my friend. I think maturity is a more important issue in Eve. But thats a whole new trunk full of marbles...
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Pychian Vanervi
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Posted - 2003.11.06 11:39:00 -
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Yep, sex is irrelevent my friend. I think maturity is a more important issue in Eve. But thats a whole new trunk full of marbles...
Well I have always been told to act my age so maybe this is the start of a whole new more mature approach to things.
Or just I have decided to take a more relaxed attitude to this subject.
So when is our first date?
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aniaria
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Posted - 2003.11.08 05:07:00 -
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pychian. I think it was a pretty good idea to bring this topic up. It's nice to meet other women that you have something in common with. I played for months before I got in touch with another woman.
The only reason the reactions on your topic were so strong is probably because you are a male. When you've experienced talking to a bunch of males that have not yet realised that few girls play computer games and most of us that do have boyfriends, you can get a bit annoyed after a while. If you would had been a female writing the same thing, I believe the reactions would had been positive.
hmmm.. just a couple of thoughts that occured to me.. though I may very well be totally wrong :)
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Mynobe Soletae
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Posted - 2003.11.08 06:15:00 -
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Nothing new to bring to the topic, sorry, just thought it was interesting how many ways irrelivent can be spelled.
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Jag Terran
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Posted - 2003.11.08 06:33:00 -
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There are as many women in this game as there are polar bears in the desert. Check real life, it's next door.
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Grikl
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Posted - 2003.11.08 11:47:00 -
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hmmm whats the deal with women in eve?
ofcorse there are women playing eve
there is two in MASS, 3 in Stormguard maby 4 not sure. Than there is the obvious Pann.
thats 6 that i know of, and i am only one person.
I would vote tho MASS has the Hotest chick in EVE boy she is a beautiful, I would link her pic but guess i would have to ask her permision, nothing worse than an angry women
MASS
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Kaaii
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Posted - 2003.11.08 11:59:00 -
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Don't forget about me!
http://www.geocities.com/kaaii57/RachansHome.html?1021488747570
"..Id rather fall beside 10 lions, then stand with One thousand sheep.."
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Rickenbacker
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Posted - 2003.11.08 21:55:00 -
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Yep, I refer to all players as "he", and so far no one has protested, even though a lot of them have female avatars...
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var'ulfur
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Posted - 2003.11.08 23:11:00 -
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my post was a bit diff i asked why do female players get mad if i ask if thier female. i care not where your from or if your singel. i treat females with more respect than a male player. but if female players cant understand this im sorry. |
Ryoko
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Posted - 2003.11.09 02:11:00 -
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My excuse is I got tired of starring at a troll's arse in DAOC for a year and it was about damn time I saw something pretty on my screen when looking at my char.
;)
But I can roleplay whatever I want ;p
/curtsies
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