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Komodo Askold
No Code of Conduct Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
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Posted - 2015.02.26 14:29:46 -
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The picture that started that whole Reddit topic. Where does it come from? What's its source?
I am also amused there are so many claims about the Ishtar on a T3 rebalance topic. Like when people claim about sov changes on entirely different change topics. You know, there are more things to rebalance than just the Ishtar. I'm not saying it doesn't require another rebalance, only that this is not the context.
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Kiandoshia
Applied Anarchy SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2157
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Posted - 2015.02.26 14:48:31 -
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It seems to be enough of a problem apparently... |
BoBoZoBo
Paragon Fury Tactical Narcotics Team
519
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Posted - 2015.02.26 15:48:06 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Hahaha. P.S. No Ishtar nerf or Proteus nerf lol. Just tengu
Why is this funny? Because you keep getting your ass handed to you by those particular ships? You do realize those who are better at this game will just find another tool to humiliate you with.
Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite
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Reiisha
712
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Posted - 2015.02.26 15:49:48 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Gregor Parud wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I'm 14 days from Tengu.
14 days ago, I said to myself "I'm going to trigger a Tengu nerf by training for them".
Seriously, I thought this. I was right.
If you all knew my other thoughts and how right I was in various RL issues you'd lose sleep.
For the most part, I think this nerf is directed at the Russians. CCP why do you hate Russians? Tengu is like the Drake: Space herpes. Why did you choose to get space herpes? Bug chasing I guess. At 85M SP I'm running out of stuff to train for.
Somehow i doubt that.....
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...
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Soldarius
Kosher Nostra The 99 Percent
1132
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Posted - 2015.02.26 16:36:36 -
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BoBoZoBo wrote:Why is this funny? Because you keep getting your ass handed to you by those particular ships? You do realize those who are better at this game will just find another tool to humiliate you with.
It's easy to be better than everyone else when the ship you're flying has 2x the tank of a BS with half the sigRad, 10% more range with far better damage application making applied dps the same if not better in almost all situations, and significantly greater max velocity without a sigRad bloom.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Rowells
ANZAC ALLIANCE Fidelas Constans
2012
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Posted - 2015.02.26 17:11:21 -
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So when is the o7 stream? |
Seven Koskanaiken
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
1415
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Posted - 2015.02.26 17:16:42 -
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BoBoZoBo wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Hahaha. P.S. No Ishtar nerf or Proteus nerf lol. Just tengu Why is this funny? Because you keep getting your ass handed to you by those particular ships? You do realize those who are better at this game will just find another tool to humiliate you with.
TNT so +¬lite. |
thatonepersone
Son's of Plunder
9
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Posted - 2015.02.26 23:06:06 -
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My 100mn RLM tengu better not get nerfed and stop working... |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
34011
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Posted - 2015.02.26 23:20:07 -
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BoBoZoBo wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Hahaha. P.S. No Ishtar nerf or Proteus nerf lol. Just tengu Why is this funny? Because you keep getting your ass handed to you by those particular ships? You do realize those who are better at this game will just find another tool to humiliate you with. But both of those things are happening.
Rise even had the nerf bat in his hand when he announced the nerfs on o7:
- T3 defensive sub-system nerf for Tengu, Proteus and Legion - Railgun nerf - Fighter nerf - Ishtar nerf
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6547
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Posted - 2015.02.26 23:23:41 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:BoBoZoBo wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Hahaha. P.S. No Ishtar nerf or Proteus nerf lol. Just tengu Why is this funny? Because you keep getting your ass handed to you by those particular ships? You do realize those who are better at this game will just find another tool to humiliate you with. But both of those things are happening. Rise even had the nerf bat in his hand when he announced the nerfs on o7: - T3 defensive sub-system nerf for Tengu, Proteus and Legion - Railgun nerf - Fighter nerf - Ishtar nerf Proteus huh....
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
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Anhenka
The Cult of Personality DARKNESS.
1116
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Posted - 2015.02.26 23:28:39 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:BoBoZoBo wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Hahaha. P.S. No Ishtar nerf or Proteus nerf lol. Just tengu Why is this funny? Because you keep getting your ass handed to you by those particular ships? You do realize those who are better at this game will just find another tool to humiliate you with. But both of those things are happening. Rise even had the nerf bat in his hand when he announced the nerfs on o7: - T3 defensive sub-system nerf for Tengu, Proteus and Legion - Railgun nerf - Fighter nerf - Ishtar nerf Proteus huh....
Proteus and Legion only got half the nerf that Tengu did. Tengu resist bonus went from 10 to 5%, Legion/Prot went to 7.5%. Loki I think stayed the same.
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
4639
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Posted - 2015.02.27 00:13:46 -
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Suggest renaming it the Eightgu. |
Zekora Rally
Negative Density
10
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Posted - 2015.02.27 04:11:14 -
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Where is o7 being aired? Twitch? |
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
537
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Posted - 2015.02.27 04:19:29 -
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Excellent...T3s are way OP and need major nerfs. |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Brawlers Inc.
1471
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Posted - 2015.02.27 04:46:17 -
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baltec1 wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:Now we just need to change the Ishtar to hybrids and eliminate drones from it altogether. No no. All we do is remove the sentries from it, the rage will be all the more potent if they can still use the heavies. I still like the idea of stealth nerfing it to 124MHz bandwidth and watch the rage commence.
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JC Anderson
State Protectorate Caldari State
1229
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Posted - 2015.02.27 07:11:45 -
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Reiisha wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Gregor Parud wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I'm 14 days from Tengu.
14 days ago, I said to myself "I'm going to trigger a Tengu nerf by training for them".
Seriously, I thought this. I was right.
If you all knew my other thoughts and how right I was in various RL issues you'd lose sleep.
For the most part, I think this nerf is directed at the Russians. CCP why do you hate Russians? Tengu is like the Drake: Space herpes. Why did you choose to get space herpes? Bug chasing I guess. At 85M SP I'm running out of stuff to train for. Somehow i doubt that.....
Was thinking the same. At nearly 150mil I still have a hard time prioritizing my training due to the fact that there is still a ton of skills I need to work on. :p |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6319
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Posted - 2015.02.27 08:42:45 -
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I am Wolfhammer's complete lack of surprise
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2015.02.27 12:13:40 -
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What? Game unbalanced even after 10 years?
Hmmm, well.... Nooo problem, let's nerf the Caldari again.
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Deacon Abox
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
468
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Posted - 2015.02.27 14:36:56 -
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Yes rl Caldari whiner. CCP hates your rl Caldari race. CCP laughs every time you log on. Look at that fool that flies those Caldari ships. 3 years of Drakes everywhere was someone asleep at the wheel I guess.
Anyway, there is an Ishtar nerf in there as well. Can't you just realize that ships that get so much more use than others will be "rebalanced"? The now not so new rebalancing team is doing it's job. This is a good thing.
CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, [u]please[/u] give us a persisting-áoff button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.
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Alundil
Isogen 5
871
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Posted - 2015.02.27 16:02:04 -
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Nariya Kentaya wrote: cant wait for the other T3's to get their nerf bat so that armor is completely invalidated in wormholes (because lets face it, the only time you put an armor battleship through a wormhole is if you are TRYING to close it, not go for pvp)
Yeah - because no one in wspace ever uses battleships for specific purposes. Ever. /s
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I'm right behind you
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Kousaka Otsu Shigure
37
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Posted - 2015.02.27 16:22:24 -
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Oh no :sadpanda:
On my 2nd day for Shield Operation V.... and after all that time for Caldari Cruisers.. Which is the better logi again? Basilisk or Scimitar
Archiver, Software Developer and Data Slave
Current Project Status: Now for the fun part: Generating Tags
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khamael III
New Rome corp.
3
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Posted - 2015.02.27 16:33:43 -
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besides tengu nerf: did you notice that it's months that CCP is coming out with just adjusting and balances to gameplay and keeps calling them "expansions" when they are not much more than "big patches". When will they actually release a real expansion? |
Desimus Maximus
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
174
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Posted - 2015.02.27 16:53:41 -
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10% bonus to Drone hitpoints and damage becomes 10% bonus to Light, Medium, and Heavy Drone hitpoints and damage, 5% bonus to Sentry Drone hitpoints and damage All bouncers Optimal Range reduced by approximately 15%, falloff increased by the amount taken away from optimal
HAHAHAH RIP ISHTAR HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
Mary Killigrew
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2015.02.27 17:47:38 -
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Desimus Maximus wrote:10% bonus to Drone hitpoints and damage becomes 10% bonus to Light, Medium, and Heavy Drone hitpoints and damage, 5% bonus to Sentry Drone hitpoints and damageAll bouncers Optimal Range reduced by approximately 15%, falloff increased by the amount taken away from optimalHAHAHAH
It's alright. Tracking stays.
Where'd you get the info that it's only Bouncer sentries?
Edit: Found it - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=409089&find=unread
This isn't a nerf; it's a tweak. |
Good Apollo BS4
Valar Morghulis. Goonswarm Federation
68
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Posted - 2015.02.28 05:53:41 -
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time to start training loki and T2 arty |
Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2015.02.28 12:22:52 -
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Deacon Abox wrote:Yes rl Caldari whiner. CCP hates your rl Caldari race . CCP laughs every time you log on. Look at that fool that flies those Caldari ships. 3 years of Drakes everywhere was someone asleep at the wheel I guess. Anyway, there is an Ishtar nerf in there as well. Can't you just realize that ships that get so much more use than others will be "rebalanced"? The now not so new rebalancing team is doing it's job. This is a good thing.
The reason Tengu is being "overused" is because it has the only viable shield tanking T3 subsystem (Suplemental Screening). If Loki had a similar system there would be a much lower percentage of Tengu pilots. There's no any other reason. |
Anhenka
The Cult of Personality DARKNESS.
1125
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Posted - 2015.02.28 15:45:31 -
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Gimme Sake wrote:Deacon Abox wrote:Yes rl Caldari whiner. CCP hates your rl Caldari race . CCP laughs every time you log on. Look at that fool that flies those Caldari ships. 3 years of Drakes everywhere was someone asleep at the wheel I guess. Anyway, there is an Ishtar nerf in there as well. Can't you just realize that ships that get so much more use than others will be "rebalanced"? The now not so new rebalancing team is doing it's job. This is a good thing. The reason Tengu is being "overused" is because it has the only viable shield tanking T3 subsystem (Suplemental Screening). If Loki had a similar system there would be a much lower percentage of Tengu pilots. There's no any other reason.
And you know that teeny tiny fact where medium rails can track fairly well at 20Km, and deal decent do out at 90 something with spike.
Let's looks around...
Most popular fleet AF: Harpy (74 km spike optimal **** yeah!) Most popular fleet t1 cruiser: Moa (budget Eagle) Most popular fleet t2 non drone cruiser: Eagle (Budget Tengu) Most popular t3 cruiser: Tengu Most popular t2 BC: Vulture.
I'm sure this level of popularity has absolutely nothing to do with their weapon system. Loki's problem mainly lie in the fact that their weapon system has a much smaller effective range, and has far lower tracking at closer range, and lower overall DPS. And twice the reload timer of hybrids. |
Asura Vajrarupa
Sanguis Inceptum
32
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Posted - 2015.02.28 18:27:59 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I'm 14 days from Tengu.
14 days ago, I said to myself "I'm going to trigger a Tengu nerf by training for them".
Seriously, I thought this. I was right.
If you all knew my other thoughts and how right I was in various RL issues you'd lose sleep.
For the most part, I think this nerf is directed at the Russians. CCP why do you hate Russians?
Settle down Leto II, your not quite worm sized yet.
Ignorance is the cause of suffering.
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Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
548
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Posted - 2015.02.28 22:25:06 -
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The math must be really complicated, taking months and months to "balance" one ship. Imagine the earth shaking task before them in making the entire inventory balanced one in relation to the other! Probably easier to build a tesseract in your living room!
Then...maybe all those layoffs weren't such a good idea after all...who knows? Thems that does ain't talkin'.
Dont fight it; Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs; You know you want to.
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Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
283
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Posted - 2015.03.01 07:59:43 -
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CCP Rise confirms they are still chasing player base behavior.
EVE will continue to do front wheel drive, donuts at high RPM's. |
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