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FaTBaStArD
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Posted - 2003.10.29 17:36:00 -
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That is the question!! I know I've read plenty on peoples opinions concerning the Mark V, but I need to ask again......................................is it really worth all that extra training??
Thanx in advance.
   
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.10.29 18:11:00 -
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If you're crazy about hauling, yes. Otherwise, no.
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Ana Khouri
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Posted - 2003.10.29 18:18:00 -
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If you have to compensate for something the mV is your best choice as well. 
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Benco97
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Posted - 2003.10.29 22:01:00 -
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Get one NOW! If you haul you'll never look back at all them 'lesser' ships again, I know I havn't.  *Flys away at an amazing 69m/s laughing* -------------------------------------------- NEW! 1/1 scale assembled plastic model benco97, Six different poses, Buy one NOW!*
*not suitable for people under 21, May include some small parts and/or traces of nut
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Tripoli
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Posted - 2003.10.30 19:28:00 -
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Well, let's see. My alt flies the Iteron Mark V. She can carry 11607 m^3 of cargo, and while carrying that much, can do over 600 m/s. Take off one expander and replace with a good nanofiber, and I've got 10092 cargo space and can do over 900 m/s. In full speed mode, with overdrives instead of expanders, this ship can easily break 2,000 m/s.
With it's potential of over 13,000 cargo space, and it's amazing speed capability, yeah, it's a good ship. ---
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Kaylon Syi
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Posted - 2003.10.30 20:24:00 -
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Quote: Well, let's see. My alt flies the Iteron Mark V. She can carry 11607 m^3 of cargo, and while carrying that much, can do over 600 m/s. Take off one expander and replace with a good nanofiber, and I've got 10092 cargo space and can do over 900 m/s. In full speed mode, with overdrives instead of expanders, this ship can easily break 2,000 m/s.
With it's potential of over 13,000 cargo space, and it's amazing speed capability, yeah, it's a good ship.
I tend to agree. If your a serious hauler you should train it. If your in a corp that does Bistot and Crokite hauls... then its about time you started your training. Also it opens a whole world up to you in the Missions section. When I have all my other skills to adaquate levels... the MK5 is my pet peeve skill I will take the time to work on.
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Gan Ning
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Posted - 2003.10.30 22:56:00 -
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The MK V is only for the serious hauler.
If your corp does a lot of mining and need a serious hauler or you trade a lot of freight or courier stuff, then the MK V is worth it.
I hauled 1077 Bistot the other day, and Bistot aint small potatoes.
The only problem is that you'll wanna cancel your training for it after about a week, its really hard to stay motivated when all your other skills are lagging behind.
If you aren't gonna touch PvP and prefer to make money in eve, then get it.
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Syme
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Posted - 2003.10.31 02:11:00 -
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Edited by: Syme on 31/10/2003 02:12:24 Gan Ning, I can't believe that you have gone with your own sig after there were so many good entries to your comp (they put mine to real shame ).
I pilot an Iteron 5 and it is the most marvellous, lovely, gorgeous and wonderful ship out there, but I am only saying that because I sacrificed getting a bs for it.
As above, if you are a hardcore haulier then it is a must; otherwise you must have better things to do with your training time (it took me 27 days with lvl5 in all learning skills and implants).
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Theladon
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Posted - 2003.10.31 09:17:00 -
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I pilot the Iteron V class indy "Size DOES matter" with a cargohold of 12455 wich allows me to empty a full jettisoned can in little more than 2 runs. I do this in 600m/s. I can easily keep up with 3 battleships and 2 cruisers mining at full speed. Changing the cargoexpanders to injectors i can haul about 2000 cargo in speeds over 3000m/s. (blockaderunning anyone?)
YES the iteron Mk5 is a good ship, but as with any other ship its your skills and the modules you fit that makes all the difference. The stuff i got fitted to mine approaces the price of a battleship.
Now you decide for yourself.
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James Hawkings
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Posted - 2003.10.31 15:43:00 -
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it is the biggest and best hauler for a reason. i haul 13104 m3 cargo at 450m/s and its great for emptying out 0.0 depots full of crokite and such. the train time is ok for it. but my only complaint is that i wish ccp gave the iterons a more usefull special per lvl. teh 5% less cap for warp per lvl is great and all but teh ships were already good at warping. so now i guess i can jump a 500 au jump without stopping. fun and all but there are no jumps that big.....
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Invicitii xchiir
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Posted - 2003.11.06 00:45:00 -
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Quote: my only complaint is that i wish ccp gave the iterons a more usefull special per lvl. teh 5% less cap for warp per lvl is great and all but teh ships were already good at warping. so now i guess i can jump a 500 au jump without stopping. fun and all but there are no jumps that big.....
CCP is gonna change jumping 'soon'(TM), so that you no longer jump into the middle of a system, but to the other side of the gate. This is gonna mean that warps to gates are prolly gonna be twice as far... the cap bonus to warping could become quite useful
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Lanu
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Posted - 2003.12.08 16:44:00 -
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i hope ccp is gonna do that ( i'm training gal indu lvl5 atm ( 22 days remaining )
boo
"You are most like the Cat, lazy and quiet. You aren't very exciting yet everyone notices your presence."
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Pand0ra
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Posted - 2003.12.08 22:16:00 -
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Quote:
so now i guess i can jump a 500 au jump without stopping. fun and all but there are no jumps that big.....
I found a limit of 888UA on my MarkV. Had to travel +-1600UA back to a station, due to a bug in EvE. So, yes, it helps sometimes to have a big range 
But I agree, the bonus with the MK V is not usefull at all since they changed the jump range of the indys. Devs should correct this.
@++
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CHUMSICLE
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Posted - 2003.12.09 04:03:00 -
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Iteron 5 in 12 days.
What the hell, im not gonna fly a battleship anyway. It will go nicely with my uber builder skills.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2003.12.09 10:02:00 -
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Quote: Iteron 5 in 12 days.
What the hell, im not gonna fly a battleship anyway. It will go nicely with my uber builder skills.
The true nature of ur self Reveals after u get BS - it is a ship capable of Grate good or Grate Evil
but i got nothing against haulers.. Carry on- and good luck hauling
and may the prices be alvays favorite to u  -------------------------------------------
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Missa
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Posted - 2003.12.09 10:56:00 -
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Once you drive a Mark 5 all other Industrial ships seem like cheap plastic toys. If you train skill in another race's Industrial, you are just wasting your time. If you ever intend to haul and survive in 0.0 you better pick this ship up. I do agree though that the bonus you get for the ship is a little on the weak side . --Missa New Siggy to Come Soon(tm) |

Rickenbacker
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Posted - 2003.12.09 13:01:00 -
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With the new MWD and AB changes on Chaos the Iteron Mk V might be the only ship to fly for speedy hauling, since it will have the best powergrid. Plus of course the coolness factor of flying a ship that takes 1.5 months to get the skill for :-).
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Dagny
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Posted - 2003.12.09 14:45:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: my only complaint is that i wish ccp gave the iterons a more usefull special per lvl. teh 5% less cap for warp per lvl is great and all but teh ships were already good at warping. so now i guess i can jump a 500 au jump without stopping. fun and all but there are no jumps that big.....
CCP is gonna change jumping 'soon'(TM), so that you no longer jump into the middle of a system, but to the other side of the gate. This is gonna mean that warps to gates are prolly gonna be twice as far... the cap bonus to warping could become quite useful
Well, look in your systems again.. because it seems that more often than not, stargates are pretty much close by, and not across the solar system.
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Merc4
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Posted - 2003.12.09 19:39:00 -
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Dude, I dont get it...
1) All you like to do is haul? 2) Do you have a life? 3) What system are you in, so i can visit you...

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Merc4
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Posted - 2003.12.09 19:39:00 -
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Dude, I dont get it...
1) All you like to do is haul? 2) Do you have a life? 3) What system are you in, so i can visit you...
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Eltigre
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Posted - 2003.12.09 19:41:00 -
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I'll stick with my Bestower's 9300 cub. meters... Bestower costs less to insure and replace and it took a very short time to get the skill to drive one even though I do have L4 Iteron skill and could make that L5 anytime I want to waste 40+ days doing nothing else. - lol
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Lanu
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Posted - 2003.12.10 13:10:00 -
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i'm training to lvl5 atm ( still 21 days left ) i do it because i don't really got any other skills to train atm ( got all my skills for the ship i want to fly ( dominix ))
boo
"You are most like the Cat, lazy and quiet. You aren't very exciting yet everyone notices your presence."
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Alkanine
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Posted - 2003.12.10 13:15:00 -
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Ever since I recieved my first Iteron 5 and could ride it I must say. I would have it no other way. I love the iteron 5. with 27.XX expanders you can have more cargo then any ship in the game spare a titan. And the shields armor and structure are all higher then most shields are only lower then the badger. More med slots more power and overall kick ass. And if all of thats not enough less people have it and it looks awsome.
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Major Domani
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Posted - 2003.12.10 15:49:00 -
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I have a cargo now of 13450 on the indy 5, and can do some serious hauling, it is the best indy ever (5 local hulls) if you need to shift a lot of stuff in one go this ship is what to do it in, if you dont do any hauling then dont bother you coulod train the 22-30 days on several other skills... I have not regretted it, course my corp mates are glad i trained it as well....
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Major Domani
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Posted - 2003.12.10 15:50:00 -
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I have a cargo now of 13450 on the indy 5, and can do some serious hauling, it is the best indy ever (5 local hulls) if you need to shift a lot of stuff in one go this ship is what to do it in, if you dont do any hauling then dont bother you could train the 22-30 days on several other skills... I have not regretted it, course my corp mates are glad i trained it as well....
: )
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plato
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Posted - 2003.12.11 01:01:00 -
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As of now I am traning up for the V, I was wondering if yall could post some loadouts, such as what kind afterburners, and so on....? "Death is not the worst than can happen to men." -Plato |

Codaarix
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Posted - 2003.12.11 07:22:00 -
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Edited by: Codaarix on 11/12/2003 07:23:01 My 30+ days of Itty V training finish on Christmas Eve.....
awww what a nice prezzy to myself 
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Tripoli
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Posted - 2003.12.11 21:12:00 -
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Thanks to improved skills and mods my alt's Iteron V now has the following loadout:
2x Y-S8 Hydrocarbom I Afterburners 3x Cold-Gas Arcjet Thrusters 1x Local Hull Conversion Expanded Cargo I 2x Beta Hull Mod Expanded Cargo 2x Partial Hull Converstion Expanded Cargo (also still has enough powergrid for a mining laser)
Navigation lv 5 Acceleration Control lv 5 Spaceship Command lv 5 Evasive Maneuvering lv 5 (in 5 days)
Ship holds 12,302 cargo and can sustain a speed of 720 m/s with all five afterburners running.
This ship can keep up with my Apoc's mining ability, even if it's hauling my ore over 5 systems away.
The Iteron V rules. 
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2003.12.11 23:05:00 -
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Yes, if you have the time and patience. GET IT!
My corp's CEO did and he can keep up with two heavy mining ships (battleships ) no problem!
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plato
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Posted - 2003.12.12 01:25:00 -
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Man with that setup I would have to spend like 40mil on FREAKING cargo expanders alone. Other than that the afterburner setup seems to be a must. "Death is not the worst than can happen to men." -Plato |

StealthNet
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Posted - 2003.12.12 22:39:00 -
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Quote: Well, let's see. My alt flies the Iteron Mark V. She can carry 11607 m^3 of cargo, and while carrying that much, can do over 600 m/s. Take off one expander and replace with a good nanofiber, and I've got 10092 cargo space and can do over 900 m/s. In full speed mode, with overdrives instead of expanders, this ship can easily break 2,000 m/s.
With it's potential of over 13,000 cargo space, and it's amazing speed capability, yeah, it's a good ship.
Kiss that goodbye when the patch comes. _______________________________________________
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Sqalevon
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Posted - 2003.12.13 11:59:00 -
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I have one and i love it but it is a bit fragile in a belt with rats cause it has a bad agility but appart from that its great :D if u plan to haul alot, the mV is your best shot
i use a mammoth for combat hauling ...
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Codaarix
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Posted - 2003.12.14 11:56:00 -
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Well thanks CCP
Looks like the reward for my 30+days of training will be an ittyV that uses ABs that are nerfed to buggery.....
ho hum
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TOXIC WASTE
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Posted - 2003.12.14 12:02:00 -
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Quote: Well thanks CCP
Looks like the reward for my 30+days of training will be an ittyV that uses ABs that are nerfed to buggery.....
ho hum
Its takes 30 days to learn skill and only 72.3 days to reach your destination 
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Barbicane
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Posted - 2003.12.14 18:26:00 -
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... and now I keep hearing rumors that the Mammoth will also have 5 low slots after the patch. If it's true, the mk5's advantage is completely gone...
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Kennian
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Posted - 2003.12.14 19:59:00 -
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nah, the mammoth has 4 low slots now, instead of three. but still...there's less and less reason to train iteron five now. with this speed nerf flying a cargo loaded indi is going to be bloody agony
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Theladon
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Posted - 2003.12.15 10:37:00 -
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I read on the patch thread that indys will get an 50% cargo boost and a 5% increase in cargo and speed per skill level....
Finally the Iteron V is worth it..:)
6000 base plus 5 x 5% for the skill...
With four 25% and one 27% expander I'm gonna be able to take....let me see...something like....LOTS!
Almost 24000 i think...
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Barfolemew
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Posted - 2003.12.15 10:42:00 -
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Mk5 with tech lvl2 expanders has 20.169 m3 cargo ( See this )
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Rira Vanga
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Posted - 2003.12.17 11:17:00 -
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Iteron mk5 2* local + 3* typed = cca 22.500 m3
With 5 local it will be bloody cow 
and i tested to fit frigate to cargo hold 
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Novo DuPont
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Posted - 2003.12.17 11:37:00 -
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WELL NOW THEY ROCK!!!!!!!!!
Yea the Iteron V is now VERY much worth the time to train to use. It have a base cargo hold of 7500 m3 when you count the 25% bonus from the Gal Indie skill at lvl 5  
"To succeed greatly one must sacrifice greatly"
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FaTBaStArD
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Posted - 2003.12.22 15:00:00 -
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At Journey's End - 7 hours and 20 minutes left 
I am a Traveller of both Time and Space....... |

fras
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Posted - 2003.12.22 16:15:00 -
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It's a shame those courier scams arn't still around where you have to take 20,000 cargo 1 jump for 50m. Oh what a field day that would have been 
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Ankh
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Posted - 2003.12.23 00:32:00 -
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I have flown the mammoth for months and just got my iteron V skill today. After castor, the big difference is an extra 5000 cargo from the extra spander (Mammoth has 4 low slots to Iteron's V) and a that all important extra bit of powergrid that gives you enough for a 10MN mwd. I was worried that the It.V would be a waste of a months training compared to the new mammoth, but no, that mwd alone makes it worthwhile.
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Galk
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Posted - 2003.12.23 11:19:00 -
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With my expanders, which could be better:
ohh and giants in the bay, i go for 26500.
Thats at poor 170 odd traveling speed though.
Depends on what your doing i spose, single system mining, thats nearly a whole can crunched in one, coupled with a 2k bookmark either end, it makes you more god like than before.
For speed, well today iv'e been messing around, and iv'e got 3 10 ab's on and a couple of cap chargers mid, and a whole bunch on assorted nano's on the slots low.
That takes me to an everlasting 560 running speed, at base cargo.
Good for ammo, trade and shopping trips.
Lit 5's are still the king in most areas imho, as they should be.
We galente ain't much better at anything else:) ------------------------
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Falnaerith
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Posted - 2003.12.23 20:33:00 -
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Iteron V is no longer worthwile to train. If you want to use that last low slot for an expander, you'll be moving about 155 m/s with 2 ab's fitted. Otherwise you can get 3 ab's fitted with 4 expanders and a reactor control unit.
I'll be done with engi 5 tonight and see if you can fit 3 ab's with that.
Otherwise you can fill all your low slots and put a 10 mn mwd on your ship. Base cargo and about 7-900 m/s. Course, with engineering 4, that uses up 160/164 mw.
Without ab's on your iteron V, and full expanders you can pull about 91 m/s or so. Loads of good that extra low slot does ya if you have ore to haul in from way out there. ------------------- Basic truths? Idiots make us rich. - Some people are only alive because it is illegal to kill them. |

Codaarix
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Posted - 2003.12.23 22:53:00 -
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Well Ive just got mine and I love it :-)
Ive got Engineering V so Ive gone for 4 RCU, a 25% expander, 3 giant cans and an MWD
Got just over 12000 cargo with a MWD - lurvly!
Of course for serious mining and hauling, just whack in expanders and ABS - 24000 cargo and about 250 m/s I think
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Dzikus
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Posted - 2003.12.23 23:01:00 -
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Ech, for speed purposes you can always use 5*nanofiber + 2*10MN AB and some Cap Rechargers. With 7500 cargo (which is great and usually enough) you have normal speed about 220-240 and with 2*AB you get about +100% - I usually fly above 500 m/s. Which is enough in most cases. Especially now when you start 15 km from the gate. _________________
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