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Tovarishch
Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.11 19:47:00 -
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Edited by: Tovarishch on 11/10/2006 19:48:11
If you have not read Tux's new list of upcoming tweaks... please sit down and feast your eyes on this -
Originally by: Tuxford
Agility of battlecruisers and command ships boosted by 20% Nighthawk's explosion velocity changed to launcher rate of fire bonus
It seems that after nearly a year of posting solid numbers about the problems regarding the Nightawk... we've finally been heard.
Not to mention... the Deimos is finally getting the PG bonus that it's long been needing.
I'd personally like to thank Tux for finally, finally responding to these issues. It took an awfully long time... but it's great to see these important tweaks finally being instituted.
Thanks, Tux.
All life is sacred... until the client says otherwise. |

Constantine Arcanum
Gallente IMPERIAL SENATE Pure.
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Posted - 2006.10.11 19:49:00 -
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Thanks Tux0r
I helped - Cortes What a shiny and lovely place here - Eshtir Well lets make it a party atleast :D -Xorus RAWWWR!11!!1!2 SIG HIJACK!!11!1 I found it first, get orrrfff moiiii laaannnd - Cortes |

Dragy
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Posted - 2006.10.11 19:50:00 -
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i'll be damned if bc's warp faster than deimos !
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2SecondsTilMidnight
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Posted - 2006.10.11 19:55:00 -
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Soon my millions of sp in BC and missle skills will be useful(hopefully)!
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Firane
Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.10.11 20:06:00 -
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All BC loving pilots rejoice, tbh.
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Eve Hel
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Posted - 2006.10.11 20:08:00 -
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/rejoice  |

Mar vel
Caldari H.Y.D.R.A.
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Posted - 2006.10.11 21:10:00 -
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Could someone post the link for Tux's reply/statement, and an anticipated delivery date? Thx.
Appreciated. Nice that Tux (CCP) are responding to their user community. Now if we could get the response time down to 6 mos instead of a year would be +++.
Still, in all, a good change that we have been waiting patiently for...
Mar
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keepiru
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2006.10.11 21:21:00 -
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Now I have to choose a new whine to put under my sig... maybe I should ask for 800mm rolled tungsten drops (again), seeing as they basically dont?
Maybe I should hold a poll... ----------------
Please fix BC Sig/Agility! |

Gorgons
Caldari Phantom Squad iPOD Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.11 22:00:00 -
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The nighthawk and the drake... OMG OMG OMG 
can't wait..
...oh and heavy assault missiles... OMG again ----------------------
OMG! what does it say... It says Snippy.
 E-mail us with any questions. -ReverendM
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Worms Corp
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Posted - 2006.10.11 22:29:00 -
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id love to see a link to see other list items
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keepiru
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2006.10.11 22:34:00 -
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Look at the newest sticky here in ships & modules people... then buy some new glasses  ----------------
Please fix BC Sig/Agility! |

Gee'Kin
Tha Specialz
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Posted - 2006.10.11 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Tovarishch Edited by: Tovarishch on 11/10/2006 19:48:11
If you have not read Tux's new list of upcoming tweaks... please sit down and feast your eyes on this -
Originally by: Tuxford
Agility of battlecruisers and command ships boosted by 20% Nighthawk's explosion velocity changed to launcher rate of fire bonus
It seems that after nearly a year of posting solid numbers about the problems regarding the Nightawk... we've finally been heard.
Not to mention... the Deimos is finally getting the PG bonus that it's long been needing.
I'd personally like to thank Tux for finally, finally responding to these issues. It took an awfully long time... but it's great to see these important tweaks finally being instituted.
Thanks, Tux.
Aah nice ! .. Rate of fire bonus !! i luv that on a nighthawk. --------------------------------------------> Plz tickle my brain. I wanna have a Brainfart ! -------------------------------------------->
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Commander Thrawn
Tarnak inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.11 23:00:00 -
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why doesn't amarr ever get some love
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keepiru
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2006.10.11 23:06:00 -
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Well, the prophecy, absolution, damnation get an agility boost too, and the sacri gets a sizeable fitting boost... ----------------
Please fix BC Sig/Agility! |

Jin Entres
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.11 23:12:00 -
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So what's the estimated DPS on the new and improved cochroach on red bull?
I suppose this also means I have to train Heavy Missiles to V. ---
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Iudex
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2006.10.12 14:37:00 -
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I don't think this is right. The nighthawk already has too much power compared to a battelship and now its firepower is not only at its best on small targets but get a better dps, so even more dangerous to a battelship. It is powerful enought with its high resistance, gang-bonus etc. why making it even more powerful and faster ? I don't think its right.
(Just an oppinion from a sad bs pilot, don't flame me please for that).
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Pestillence
Chav-Scum
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Posted - 2006.10.12 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Iudex I don't think this is right. The nighthawk already has too much power compared to a battelship and now its firepower is not only at its best on small targets but get a better dps, so even more dangerous to a battelship. It is powerful enought with its high resistance, gang-bonus etc. why making it even more powerful and faster ? I don't think its right.
(Just an oppinion from a sad bs pilot, don't flame me please for that).
Heres a couple of facts for you to chew on.
1) Nos will kill any command ship since it cant rep. (Injectors will run out)
2) Command ships need vastly more skills than bs. Surely they should be comparable if not better in the right hands?
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Cividari
Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.10.12 14:50:00 -
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hm... I wonder how this will effect the cerberus. Wont the nighthawk outperform the cerb greatly at everything except speed (which it doesnt really need) and sig res? But I guess its the same for the other races to, especialy with the agility buff.
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Iudex
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2006.10.12 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Pestillence
Originally by: Iudex I don't think this is right. The nighthawk already has too much power compared to a battelship and now its firepower is not only at its best on small targets but get a better dps, so even more dangerous to a battelship. It is powerful enought with its high resistance, gang-bonus etc. why making it even more powerful and faster ? I don't think its right.
(Just an oppinion from a sad bs pilot, don't flame me please for that).
Heres a couple of facts for you to chew on.
1) Nos will kill any command ship since it cant rep. (Injectors will run out)
2) Command ships need vastly more skills than bs. Surely they should be comparable if not better in the right hands?
Why nos ? I seen some people having a passive shield tank on a nighthawk (something witch some heavy extenders in the meds and shield power relays in the lows) which made them absolutely invulnerable against nos, having a nice indefinitely running tank etc and (important!) the ability to use tech 2 hi dmg heavys without penalty (as cap does not matter). With this they were able to outtank and then finally (as aktiv tank does not last forever) outgun a tech 2 fitted raven .. so they are powerful enought in my eyes. Skills are awsome, ok. But c'mon its tech 2 but it still a bc, should not be sooo much stronger then a bs. But now they make it even stronger, while good old raven seem to be the loser of this update .
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Calprimus
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2006.10.12 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Cividari hm... I wonder how this will effect the cerberus. Wont the nighthawk outperform the cerb greatly at everything except speed (which it doesnt really need) and sig res? But I guess its the same for the other races to, especialy with the agility buff.
Cerb can still lock at 100Km, NH can max lock at 75Km (not taking in consideration extar mods) Cerb has still that nice missile velocity bonus Cerb, as you mentioned, still is faster and has lower sig.
Btw, rof bonus to the NH was the absolute minimum Tux could do for that ship.
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Cividari
Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.10.12 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Calprimus
Originally by: Cividari hm... I wonder how this will effect the cerberus. Wont the nighthawk outperform the cerb greatly at everything except speed (which it doesnt really need) and sig res? But I guess its the same for the other races to, especialy with the agility buff.
Cerb can still lock at 100Km, NH can max lock at 75Km (not taking in consideration extar mods) Cerb has still that nice missile velocity bonus Cerb, as you mentioned, still is faster and has lower sig.
Btw, rof bonus to the NH was the absolute minimum Tux could do for that ship.
True, lets just hope this lowers the price on cerbs some now that they get some competition 
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Eve Hel
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Posted - 2006.10.12 15:30:00 -
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Originally by: Iudex I don't think this is right. The nighthawk already has too much power compared to a battelship and now its firepower is not only at its best on small targets but get a better dps, so even more dangerous to a battelship. It is powerful enought with its high resistance, gang-bonus etc. why making it even more powerful and faster ? I don't think its right.
(Just an oppinion from a sad bs pilot, don't flame me please for that).
like 'pestilence already sayd but it doesn't hurt to say it again !
to get a battleship takes a week or 2, a commandship takes 2 mounths+ to get ! so they commandship naturely should be better ) try and think about how much trainin time you used for using your battleship and multiply that with 4-8 and you get how long a commandship pilot has trained for his ship but ofcause you has the right to your opninien always ) |

Chewan Mesa
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.10.12 15:47:00 -
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Edited by: Chewan Mesa on 12/10/2006 15:48:09 Nice changes, was about time!
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FireFoxx80
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.10.12 15:49:00 -
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Question for you MC guys.
Will you field more BattleCruisers and CommandShips; now they are more agile?
What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass! |

Greyshadow
Yesodic Nomads Corp Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.10.12 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: Cividari hm... I wonder how this will effect the cerberus. Wont the nighthawk outperform the cerb greatly at everything except speed (which it doesnt really need) and sig res? But I guess its the same for the other races to, especialy with the agility buff.
Well correct me if I'm wrong but to train to the nighthawk is more demanding than the cerb so it makes sense that its a better ship.
"We need you!" |

FireFoxx80
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.10.12 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Cividari hm... I wonder how this will effect the cerberus. Wont the nighthawk outperform the cerb greatly at everything except speed (which it doesnt really need) and sig res? But I guess its the same for the other races to, especialy with the agility buff.
HAC's will still have a higher speed/damage ratio for their size.
I'd fly a HAC over my Command Ship, if it weren't for the price.
What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass! |

Rafein
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.12 16:22:00 -
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Nighthawk change was needed. I still think it needs another launcher up high, though. Especially since the Drake is comming soon with it's 7 launchers.
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Tovarishch
Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.12 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Iudex I don't think this is right. The nighthawk already has too much power compared to a battelship and now its firepower is not only at its best on small targets but get a better dps, so even more dangerous to a battelship. It is powerful enought with its high resistance, gang-bonus etc. why making it even more powerful and faster ? I don't think its right.
(Just an oppinion from a sad bs pilot, don't flame me please for that).
Some quick facts for you... since you obviously have never flown a Nighthawk or seen one in action -
1. The Nighthawk is currently capable of only 90% of the DPS of a Cerberus. 2. The Nighthawk is currently very far from being a threat to any battleship. 3. The Nighthawk does not receive a missile velocity bonus. It's missiles are not fast enough to catch a t1 MWDing frigate. 4. The Target Navigation Prediction bonus had no meaningful effect on damage... at all. 5. The Caracal is currently a far more effective frigate killer than a Nighthawk... for a VASTLY lower cost in skill points and isk.
As you can see... the argument that the Nighthawk is currently an incredible frigate killer is absolutely false. The Caracal does a better job of it since it is faster, more agile, and has bonuses that assist in that role.
Let me add to this that the argument that the Nighthawk should be a frigate killer is complete and total crap. Who in their right mind would train for months, and months, and months to fly a very expensive frigate killer? Particularly one that does the job very poorly for magnitudes more cost than a Caracal.
I apologize for what might seem a flame back at you... but posts like yours have been seen for months - anecdotal misinformation from people who don't know a thing about the ship... saying that it's great... when it isn't. It's currently a pile of crap. Anyone who can sit in one and fly one knows this.
The DPS and agility changes will go a long way in fixing it. However, the targeting range is still going to be an issue.
All life is sacred... until the client says otherwise. |

Roxanna Kell
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.10.12 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Roxanna Kell on 12/10/2006 18:13:32 Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaha. Finally, i must ve posted douzens of Threads regarding that.
This is without any damage mods. and with All Missile skills to lvl 5, even Heavy spec. Use the Missile guid to calculate your own.
Nighthawk 6 launchers - Today.
Kenetic- dps: 187 dpm: 257 others- dps: 149 dpm: 206
Nighthawk 6 launchers - After Changes.
Kenetic- dps: 249 dpm: 257 others- dps: 199 dpm: 206
This is without any damage mods.
------With 2BCU t2----------------
Nighthawk 6 launchers - After changes
Kenetic- dps: 353 dpm: 302 others- dps: 282 dpm: 242
------With 3BCU t2----------------
Nighthawk 6 launchers - After changes
Kenetic- dps: 399 dpm: 320 others- dps: 320 dpm: 256
------With 5BCU t2---------------- if you dare. Stacking penalty FTL.
Nighthawk 6 launchers - After changes
Kenetic- dps: 497 dpm: 354 others- dps: 398 dpm: 284
the Missile Guid on page 4 wouldn't let me test T2. but you re looking at Huge damage. So any idea when this changes will be in?
-----------------Also a TIp, Good time to invest in Nighthawks, BPO's Or ships while they stull under 200 mills ; )/
Quote: "Don't touch the red button!"
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keepiru
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2006.10.12 19:50:00 -
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Great DPS? If thats the actual dps of it, it fracking pathetic. ----------------
Please fix BC Sig/Agility! |

Tovarishch
Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.12 19:54:00 -
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Edited by: Tovarishch on 12/10/2006 19:59:13
Originally by: Iudex
Originally by: Tovarishch
I apologize for what might seem a flame back at you... but posts like yours have been seen for months - anecdotal misinformation from people who don't know a thing about the ship... saying that it's great... when it isn't. It's currently a pile of crap. Anyone who can sit in one and fly one knows this.
Look Mister, i did not post any misinformation. I just stated my oppinion, that it is not right to make an already very powerful ship even more powerful. And you are not honest if you say it's crap. The person posting right after you showed what great dps it already has. That dps goes with heavy missiles which are more precise then high precision cruises. In addition to that the nighthawks resistances and passive tanking abilities are enormous and infinite, compared to a raven for example, giving it the ability to use high dmg missiles (which a raven pilot cant do with its active tank) and being immune against nosferatus. Well there are some more advantages that shows that the nighthawk is far away from being "a pile of crap". It's a dangerous beast which will be even more powerful and will make a raven look even more bad in pvp. Don't you think i am allowed to post my concerns about this ? It's my constitutional right to express my oppinion. Please don't offend me becaus of that.
Firstly, there is no 'Constitution' that declares any rights on these forums... aside from the forum rules. Yes, you are more than welcome to state your opinions... but they are just that... opinions. You offered no numbers, no facts, and nothing at all remotely substantial. You offered no evidence to back up your 'opinions'. Your opinion is that the Nighthawk is awesome.... all evidence is to the contrary. Many of us who fly the ship with a bit of regularity know this to be true.
Also, Rox posted numbers showing Nighthawk DPS before and after the changes. If you'd take a moment to read the notes in her post you'd realize how utterly poor the Nighthawk is BEFORE the changes... and it's still very mediocre after the changes.
Every concern you have regarding the Nighthawk stated in your lastest response has already existed in the form of all the other Field Command Ships. They all tank as well as the Nighthawk... and all of them provide far more DPS. So why are you not posting about how unbalanced those ships have been all these months?
All life is sacred... until the client says otherwise. |

Eve Hel
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Posted - 2006.10.12 20:03:00 -
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Edited by: Eve Hel on 12/10/2006 20:05:37 Edited by: Eve Hel on 12/10/2006 20:04:53
Originally by: Iudex
Originally by: Tovarishch
I apologize for what might seem a flame back at you... but posts like yours have been seen for months - anecdotal misinformation from people who don't know a thing about the ship... saying that it's great... when it isn't. It's currently a pile of crap. Anyone who can sit in one and fly one knows this.
Look Mister, i did not post any misinformation. I just stated my oppinion, that it is not right to make an already very powerful ship even more powerful. And you are not honest if you say it's crap. The person posting right after you showed what great dps it already has. That dps goes with heavy missiles which are more precise then high precision cruises. In addition to that the nighthawks resistances and passive tanking abilities are enormous and infinite, compared to a raven for example, giving it the ability to use high dmg missiles (which a raven pilot cant do with its active tank) and being immune against nosferatus. Well there are some more advantages that shows that the nighthawk is far away from being "a pile of crap". It's a dangerous beast which will be even more powerful and will make a raven look even more bad in pvp. Don't you think i am allowed to post my concerns about this ? It's my constitutional right to express my oppinion. Please don't offend me becaus of that.
well offcause we should respect that you have you'r opinien like we all want to when we state our opinien,,, however friend i think you choiced a hot time and hot place too share your opinien with us,,,,
let me explaine: the nighthawk as it is now and from when the commandships came has been lacking greatly compared to its 3 counter parts (absolution/astarte/slepnir) and not just being alittle less good,,, but to almopst being unuseble !,,,, here are some facts: the nighthawk has at most 80-90% of dps than our hac does !,,,, let me refresh your memmory on the 3 other races hac/commandships: the astarte/absolution/slepnir all have 20%+ more dps than their hac version ! and the caldari hac has less dps than the 3 others hacs which in it self is okay because of the range thing !. soo you see the nighthawk as it is now, is nothing but a bigger Cerberus with lower dps,, soo theirs really no point in training for one sence its not better than the hac. again you are free to have your opinien offcause. again your timing of sharing it was not good,,, the caldari ppl who has been crying over our not useble commandship for a long time finally gets news about it to be helped to become useble !
and thats why ppl will flame at you, when making that kind of opiniens now ) |

Roxanna Kell
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.10.13 05:25:00 -
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Tovarishch is better to ignore the ignorant, he could ve jsut read my post were a;; the stats are there, instead he claims that the nighthawk is powerfull, i my self soloed a raven with it in low sec while under heavy fire from gate guns, the guy was 9 months old in eve. and i managed to break my friends tanked who is 3 years old in eve, in his t2 raven.
Nighthawk wasnt bad it just needed to be as good as the other command ships, not a destroyer.
Quote: "Don't touch the red button!"
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Marcus Alkhaar
Exotic Dancers Club
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Posted - 2006.10.13 06:03:00 -
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Roxannas numbers is incorrect....
hoppin nearly 100 DPS between the 4th and 5th damage mod?
free me...
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keepiru
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2006.10.13 06:11:00 -
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The onsite calculator uses pre-boost heavy missile DPS, among other things, so those numbers are of by like, 20-25% or something? ----------------
Please fix BC Sig/Agility! |

Roxanna Kell
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.10.13 07:56:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Alkhaar Roxannas numbers is incorrect....
hoppin nearly 100 DPS between the 4th and 5th damage mod?
free me...
do you have like no missile skills at all?
Quote: "Don't touch the red button!"
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Infar Dantenon
Tempt Fate
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Posted - 2006.10.13 11:11:00 -
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gone are the Days where a 2006 Brutix tank my NH 
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Greyshadow
Yesodic Nomads Corp Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.10.13 11:20:00 -
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Why am I so regreting getting a Vulture now lol 
"We need you!" |

welsh wizard
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.13 11:31:00 -
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Edited by: welsh wizard on 13/10/2006 11:31:42 That is awesome news!
Time for some Nighthawk related pwn.
Originally by: Roxanna Kell
Originally by: Marcus Alkhaar Roxannas numbers is incorrect....
hoppin nearly 100 DPS between the 4th and 5th damage mod?
free me...
do you have like no missile skills at all?
He is only able to fly an incursus.
Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
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sartorii
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.15 20:58:00 -
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/me rejoices..
its not perfect, but its better.. although the NH will not WTFPWN drones the way it once did the change is long due...
To Bad Ignorance isnt Painful |

Fuglife
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.15 21:15:00 -
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rejoice, its only gone up 100m in price 
Please resize your e-peen to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes No - Fuglife Please its far too big - Eris |

sartorii
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.15 21:36:00 -
[42]
more reason to rejoice... more profit
Contact Hannibell for Nighthawk sales..
To Bad Ignorance isnt Painful |

Reighshour Heinek
Gallente Dark-Rising Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.16 09:55:00 -
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This makes me a very cappy hamper  |

DeadRow
True Core
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Posted - 2006.10.16 10:05:00 -
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Wish Tux kept the nighthawk a secert, prices wouldn't hve gone up... its the hawk changes all over again /DeadRow, True Core
Sig Wanted. |

Ithildin
Gallente The Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.16 10:23:00 -
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keepiru, that damage output is sad only in comparison to short range turrets. If you compare it to a suitable long range turret with suitable ammunition, such as an Astarte with 250mm Railgun IIs with Lead loaded, we have the Nighthawk outdamaging the Astarte by 25.76% with ranges more or less comparable (it takes the missile 6 seconds to reach the Astarte's optimal range)
Additional analysis tell that the Nighthawk will start out damaging the Astarte when the Astarte has loaded Uranium (third most damaging ammo), while it has an optimal range of 27km with a fall off of 18km. It takes a Nighthawk's missiles 5 seconds to reach a comparable range.
I do not think you could call this damage output bad in any way - what one can rightfully complain about is how long it takes missiles to reach their target. I'd love to see a doubled velocity and a halved flight time.
It seems like Roxanne has fixed the damage discrepancy, I can find nothing wrong with the damage levels. - Three years old |

Spaced Skunk
Yesodic Nomads Corp
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Posted - 2006.10.16 10:27:00 -
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Is there any news on a Muninn PG boost? Boost muninn if you boost deimos...only fair now.
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welsh wizard
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.16 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: DeadRow Wish Tux kept the nighthawk a secert, prices wouldn't hve gone up... its the hawk changes all over again
Except this time the changes will be as awesome as they sound! :D
Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
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welsh wizard
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.16 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: Spaced Skunk Is there any news on a Muninn PG boost? Boost muninn if you boost deimos...only fair now.
Hello matey o/
Yes there is \o/
Muninn is one of the proposed booster ships. :)
Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
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Glarion Garnier
Solar Wind
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Posted - 2006.10.16 12:53:00 -
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To give some perspective to things. -Command ships lvl 4
Target 1.5 mil Angel BS ship: Nitghhawk + 6 arbalest heavy launchers with exp missiles, 4 x bcu 2 !!! + 3 t2 exp drones (2 med , 1 light)
Takes allmost full load of missiles from all launchers to finally brake the tank.(skills not at 5 but quite high)
same target ship: Astarte with 7 x Neutron blaster 2's antimater ammo 3 x magstab 2 + no drones med blaster spec lvl 4, not maxed skills on guns ROF skill lvl 4
takes 1 minute to pop the 1.5 angel BS
so Astarte basically kills the rat in 1/5th , 1/4th of the time vs NH atm. there is some perspective to you how crappy the Nh dmg output atm is.
With the 25% rof bonus now it can actually kill something. But its still far from a threath to most Battleships while using heavy missiles.
G.G
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