Nothing of value was lost.

For ccp:

i m actualy student and i work for living.
i make a choice in game have a ms and up this caractere in hope to have a supercarrier for farming and pvp.
i havent ~ 33b for buying or the time to have this almont so i choice tu up an account.

with this nerf i dont wanne more have a Super carrier. i wont risk to have an super for farming in annomaly for be easly hot drop or ganked just for a shiny kill.

yes i was expecting isk for flying it but the cost of this toy involve:

1) having 3 active account
2) Investing 24B
3) more than a year skilling it
4) a pos

having all this requirment is not easy take a lot of time and money, and you will make them more easly killed ?
Do you realy expect any one us these toys and pay an accunt for just pvping and have no reward at pve.
do you not understand that for sutch an amount of game time and isk these toy shouldent be easly kill.
you encouraging the disconnected mechaniques in hid afk camper and other thing like this.

so if this patch pass i will ask you to reinbourse me the game time that i pay in real currency. this patch is a big scam

Removing fighter assist mechanic and removing ability for fighters to warp off grid from the carrier.

As someone who has lost ships in Tama to the fighter assist mechanic, I say, sad to see it go. Just a case of huge whinge within the have-not part of the community, affecting another part of the community. "CCP please fix, because I'm too weak to" .

Shut up you man, how you dare to want a 25b ship that can't dock and requires a coffined pilot trained for a year an half at least to be as good as frigates?

Its a shame that they are planning to remove the ability of the Fighters to chase someone through the system - afterall it was one of the big things that seperates them out from the rest of the drones. You might escape the carrier and its convoy, but its fighters will buzz you until you leave the system...

CCP won't be happy till creative people are handcuffed completely it seems. And like you said, all because people are too weak to assign someone to find the carrier and force it to dock or go in shields.

Quoted for obvious reason. One side gets their ass pounded, its an exploit...using game mechanics as is. Obviously its difficult to attack a carrier when some idiot flies a cheap cruiser cause the idiot doesn't bother to fly a carrier or dread to take down the other carrier. Power creep vs skill point/time investment; one can use a bigger ship with more fire power or use a smaller ship and out maneuver the enemy (pre-planning is outmaneuvering, forcing the carrier to dock or bubble up...you won even though they didn't die), works with cruisers taking down battleships since their guns cannot track smaller ships (aka for cap ships find the carrier, drop a dread on it, or chase it into a station/POS)

Simplest thing I could do if I where a developer......shields take longer to online for a POS, so they cannot be used like mobile cover like the bubble grenade in HALO 3. Biggest problem was the carrier was pre-planning how to attack using his bubble grenade, the other side could never figure out how to counter it .

Developer taking a little bit more effort, you know how titans can only fit one doomsday and surprisingly the only ship that can fit it is a titan....now you have a fix that is a single module that buffs fighters/bombers only that doesn't effect drones that only carriers/super carriers can fit. Now the carriers have to fit actual tank instead of sitting idle near stations/POS, docking would be unreliable (active docking aggression timer would help as well). To many modules where buffing the fighters, cap out their buffs and you fixed part of the issue.

Still think the guy attacking a carrier should bring several BS fleet or at least a cap ship dread/carrier of their own to take it another carrier, carriers where like the support DPS/heal classes in other games while the guy getting his ass kicked was the crappy DPS getting his ass kicked by a support class . Flying cheap and desiring the killmail without putting in the bigger effort of taking down the enemy carrier...is laughable while you whine to fix a "exploit" of working as supposed to mechanics until CCP had to do something to shut the whining up on the forums.

I fail to see why everyone's so mad. It's a broken mechanic. If you want the effects of your ship to be felt, you should be on grid risking it.

The fix to assisted fighters is the same simple one as the fix to AFK cloaking in space, just move to a system next door. Apparently the concept of being a mobile force while being in a spaceship is too hard for a big part of the 'pvp' crowd.

How do you fight the people in the first system if you have to move next door to avoid skynet?

not, you just fight people who don't use skynet in another system. As the one who uses skynet isn't interested in a fight anyway, but just wants to farm kills using low effort tactics. Just like afk campers aren't interested in giving anyone a fight, but just want to farm bads.

So much this. It's a great change; the ability to project dps off-grid with no risk to the ship was just ridiculous.

And you can't do that anymore, why not bring the Carrier on grid instead? Ahh, yes could lose that thing, i really love the attitude you guys have and to be clear that was sarcasm.

As a fairly new player who has no experience using the "skynet" advantage i disagree with it being removed...

they should have limited it to bandwith as said earlier in this thread per 25mb bandwith you should be able to field 1 assigned fighter so vexor for example can 4 a harbinger can take 2 and most frigates can take 0 etc etc.... this is still a nerf but also not so badly it makes everyone flip their **** and claim caps are useless ( i wouldnt know i dont have the skills to fly one), wasnt the original argument that small ships using the fighters was the issue....? so they remove the biggest advantage of carriers altogether?

also if you know a system has assigned fighters in just ignore it and go elsewhere....there is hundreds of systems out there they dont all have a carrier assigning fighters...

if they are removing off grid fighters then it would only make sense to remove off grid boosters aswell... i have often seen a loki/confessor arrive in system loki cloaks up confessor runs around with huge boosts to speed sig shield etc and the loki is 100% safe whilst cloaked is this not basically the same thing as "skynetting"... getting a bonus from a ship which is 100% safe and not on grid...

what about offgrid boosting?

I invite evry

industrial and miner in 0.0 to CANCEL his subscription:
this patch is killing the industry of cap making them no more atracrtive

And evry cap/ super pilot / and assissting accounts
Now carrier and supercarrier wont be ayble to farm anymore and paying account only for this.

This should make ccp thinking a little about nerf this mechanics

Dont alow this in low sec
Creating a module for assiting one figther
Creat a ship specialized in assisting fighter (and not alow little ship to have assist even from drone)

So much this. It's a great change; the ability to project dps off-grid with no risk to the ship was just ridiculous.

You have zero likes. Apparently no one likes your posts or your tears.

Good riddance to one off-grid stupidity in this game. o7 Although, removing the assignment of drones altogether may have been better. Anyway, now they just have to remove off-grid boosting.

I have no opinion on this but reminder that hunting the carrier is impossible with the new "deadspace safe spot" tactic.

And what may i ask is that?