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Toman Torax Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:53:00 - [1] This is not meant to question the mods or anything, I just honestly want to know... What exactly is okay to put in a sig? I mean, half of the SW-related BoB sigs were removed, and half were okay (for a while there at least). Are we talking about SW copyrights, copyrights in general, Eve-related content, or something else? Certainly some of the sigs I still see contain so-called "copyrighted" material in them? Would just like to know, should I ever decide to make a sig of my own.
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:54:00 - [2] maybe this is better. Sig is not eve related Eve related? Copyright of ISD? Oh and to satisfy other conditions: LUKEC, DICE., BoB, Member, ...
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:55:00 - [3] Yes apparently this is due to copyright infringements. Signature removed - Lack of Eve related content.Laurelin
Firane Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:55:00 - [4] The lock + Mod response sounded like damage control if you ask me. -----------
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:56:00 - [5] Originally by: Grimster Yes apparently this is due to copyright infringements. Mine didn't really have much of star wars on. Sig is not eve related Eve related? Copyright of ISD? Oh and to satisfy other conditions: LUKEC, DICE., BoB, Member, ...
ChronoSphere Caldari Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:13:00 - [6] What images are they talking about?
thoth foc Destructive Influence	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:16:00 - [7] Originally by: ChronoSphere What images are they talking about? the little images at the bottom of some ppl's posts.. mostly referred to as "sigs" >: )
DoctorGonzo Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:16:00 - [8] Originally by: Toman Torax This is not meant to question the mods or anything, I just honestly want to know... What exactly is okay to put in a sig? I mean, half of the SW-related BoB sigs were removed, and half were okay (for a while there at least). Are we talking about SW copyrights, copyrights in general, Eve-related content, or something else? Certainly some of the sigs I still see contain so-called "copyrighted" material in them? Would just like to know, should I ever decide to make a sig of my own. Apparently you're now not allowed to use copywrited material like the following people, corps and alliances do, Outbreak (all) Mercenary Coalition (some of) Grainsalt - Dirty Deeds Corp DeathGrip - Dirty Deeds Corp Don Zola - Tundragon Gungankllr - Celestial Horizon Yaslon - Dark Centuri Vehestain - No Quarter And that's just looking in three threads in this part of the forum alone! Get Your BoB Protection Kit Here
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:17:00 - [9] Originally by: DoctorGonzo Originally by: Toman Torax This is not meant to question the mods or anything, I just honestly want to know... What exactly is okay to put in a sig? I mean, half of the SW-related BoB sigs were removed, and half were okay (for a while there at least). Are we talking about SW copyrights, copyrights in general, Eve-related content, or something else? Certainly some of the sigs I still see contain so-called "copyrighted" material in them? Would just like to know, should I ever decide to make a sig of my own. Apparently you're now not allowed to use copywrited material like the following people, corps and alliances do, Outbreak (all) Mercenary Coalition (some of) Grainsalt - Dirty Deeds Corp DeathGrip - Dirty Deeds Corp Don Zola - Tundragon Gungankllr - Celestial Horizon Yaslon - Dark Centuri Vehestain - No Quarter And that's just looking in three threads in this part of the forum alone! Aye ^^ BobÖ Goon Swatter - Eliminates Every Goon
Hellspawn01 Amarr	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:22:00 - [10] Allowed in a sig is: Your name Your corp¦s name Colors Anything that is related to eve like ships, stations, mods etc. Everything else that is not eve related is not allowed. Ship lovers click here
Moghydin Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:23:00 - [11] Are they all were removed as "not eve related" or because of copyright violation? And Outbreak sigs were here for a very long time already.
Hectic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:24:00 - [12] I think the sigs are eve related, because they relate to (and only to), characters, personali****, game mechanics, and happenings from EVE. I dont see the problem really. WELCOME BACK MGRL!
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:24:00 - [13] Also: Gungankllr Ascendant Frontier Signature removed - Lack of Eve related content.Laurelin
00tricky Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:24:00 - [14] I sense a can of worms has been opened... non suficit orbis ASCN, do me a favor and sort overview reverse alphabetical, ffs
DoctorGonzo Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:25:00 - [15] Originally by: Moghydin Are they all were removed as "not eve related" or because of copyright violation? And Outbreak sigs were here for a very long time already. And yours is Babylon 5, which also 'not eve related'! Get Your BoB Protection Kit Here
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:25:00 - [16] To be honest that complete *******s I would say 75% of peoples sig in this game are not Eve related and breach one or more copyrights. Surely your breaking CCP's copyright by using Eve related stuff?
DoctorGonzo Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:26:00 - [17] Originally by: Grimster Also: Gungankllr Ascendant Frontier I already got him in my first post Get Your BoB Protection Kit Here
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:28:00 - [18] Originally by: DoctorGonzo Originally by: Grimster Also: Gungankllr Ascendant Frontier I already got him in my first post Illiteracy for the lose. Signature removed - Lack of Eve related content.Laurelin
Jebidus Skari Amarr KTHNXDIE	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:29:00 - [19] Lack of alt posts means bored mods = sig cleanup
theblaze Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:30:00 - [20] And mine is based on "Pong". Although I made the sig myself, am I allowed it because I created it with my bare fingers, or not allowed because another company have the copyright on the game, "Pong"? What if someone somewhere has my name copyrighted, like a lot of the eve characters? Are they all going to go? Is my corp name going to go because the phrase was used in a copyrighted film?! What is going on? ---- Originally by: Dekein They will fix the node crashes with little text over your modules that say "You are 119th in line to activate Tachyon Beam Laser II"
Hectic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:31:00 - [21] I have an idea, just to be sure none of us breach the "non-eve-related" rules. Letss all just use an image of our favourate ship and our name next to it. The really crazy ppl among us can put their corp ticker aswell! Ill start:
DoctorGonzo Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:32:00 - [22] Originally by: Hectic I have an idea, just to be sure none of us breach the "non-eve-related" rules. Letss all just use an image of our favourate ship and our name next to it. The really crazy ppl among us can put their corp ticker aswell! Ill start: The Vexor's your favourite ship - you're weird! Get Your BoB Protection Kit Here
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:32:00 - [23] The MC Alliance cards have the "death card" at the front that was popular with troops during the Vietnam conflict. Wonder if that's copyrighted somewhere? Signature removed - Lack of Eve related content.Laurelin
Khatred OMG I can post in the CAOD section now	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:33:00 - [24] The only reason why I'm not really expressing my opinion about some forum mods and some of this forum rules it's because I still have a char to sell and several auctions to bid on. After that, free speech and forum ban for me 4tw _______________________________________________ CondorKestrelMerlinGriffinHeronBantamAtronImicusIncursusMaulusNavitasTristanBreacherBurstProbe \o/ I got Eve content in my sig.
Rina Shanu Phoenix Knights	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:33:00 - [25] I got borred to lose my sigs and so asked the last person who took my sig away to make me a new one: Image removed, not appropriate for this site. -Suvetar then make me a sig Suvetar what has 4 legs and 1 arm? a happy pitbull
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:34:00 - [26] Originally by: DoctorGonzo Originally by: Hectic I have an idea, just to be sure none of us breach the "non-eve-related" rules. Letss all just use an image of our favourate ship and our name next to it. The really crazy ppl among us can put their corp ticker aswell! Ill start: The Vexor's your favourite ship - you're weird! Thats an Ishtar
Zhaine B e l l u m	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:35:00 - [27] Originally by: Hectic I have an idea, just to be sure none of us breach the "non-eve-related" rules. Letss all just use an image of our favourate ship and our name next to it. The really crazy ppl among us can put their corp ticker aswell! Ill start: That pwns tbh And are the outbreak sigs really gone? If so I am majorly Pssed off. - - - - - - - - - - Quote:* I don't even want a ship, ships are for carebears. Give me a fish bowl for my head (to keep space out) and smear me with lard, then armed with a toasting fork-
DoctorGonzo Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:35:00 - [28] Originally by: Traxio Nacho Originally by: DoctorGonzo Originally by: Hectic I have an idea, just to be sure none of us breach the "non-eve-related" rules. Letss all just use an image of our favourate ship and our name next to it. The really crazy ppl among us can put their corp ticker aswell! Ill start: The Vexor's your favourite ship - you're weird! Thats an Ishtar Still it is Gheyllente! Get Your BoB Protection Kit Here
Farrellus Cameron Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:35:00 - [29] Technically the rules say that you can ONLY put content DIRECTLY related to EVE in your sig. Now, when they choose to enforce that rule is another matter. Just like any rule in life, you can often get away with breaking it as long as you don't attract a lot of attention. BoB attracted attention, and so ISD (CCP) put a stop to it. Copyright may be part of the issue, but it's not clearcut about whether it would be considered actual copyright infringement. It might be considered "fair use," and even if it wasn't it'd be hard to show actual damages. More then likely, the real issue is the likelihood of the copyright owner actually going after them. Lucasfilm is very aggressive in protecting its copyrights. However, it has also tolerated a lot of fair use. If they think things have gone too far they can send a "cease and desist" letter; although it's debatable about whether they would actually pursue any real legal action and even whether they would actually win. Outbreak's sigs technically use copyrighted material because every one of the photos they use is copyrighted, and there's even a separate cause of action by each of the models individually in certain jurisdictions. However, unless they are getting all of their photos from the same source, you're talking about a whole bunch of different people, instead of just one entity like Lucasfilm. The likelihood of any of them even knowing about the use, let alone caring enough to go after CCP, is slim. The reality is that there are too many people with too many sigs for ISD (CCP) to really patrol and enforce the rules universally, so it's just a matter of whether you get their attention.
Amthrianius Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:39:00 - [30] lame :/
Cyleth Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:41:00 - [31] What a pile of *******s. -- Sig is not eve related - please see the RULES - Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc ([email protected]) O RLY?
HC MasiEEE V I R I I Center for Disease Creation	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:43:00 - [32] Well now they have too mod every sig not eve related. Bye all sigs ________________________ HC MasiEEE - V I R I I
theblaze Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:45:00 - [33] Originally by: Grimster The MC Alliance cards have the "death card" at the front that was popular with troops during the Vietnam conflict. Wonder if that's copyrighted somewhere? Signature removed - Lack of Eve related content.Laurelin --------------------------------------------------------------------- Owned? ---- Originally by: Dekein They will fix the node crashes with little text over your modules that say "You are 119th in line to activate Tachyon Beam Laser II"
Farrellus Cameron Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:45:00 - [34] Originally by: aeti will they be removing every video in that subsection that contains certain music if you see what I mean? :\ No, because the videos are hosted and displayed on separate sites and not actually hosted or displayed on the EVE website, so they wouldn't be liable.
Dynast Knights of Red Mars	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:47:00 - [35] Can anyone really say they're surprised to see a rule being enforced more aggressively than usual, when an entire alliance decided to shove violations of it in ISD's faces? That's about as smooth as cutting off a police cruiser.
Rasitiln Minmatar SniggWaffe	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:47:00 - [36] Edited by: Rasitiln on 11/10/2006 21:49:02 This is horrible those sigs where great --------
Farrellus Cameron Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:47:00 - [37] Originally by: HC MasiEEE Well now they have too mod every sig not eve related. Bye all sigs As a practical matter they won't. Now, if they were a government entity you might be able to sue them for discrimination for selectively enforcing the rules, i.e., discriminating against BoB or whoever. If you can show that BoB is a protectable class, like women or minorities, then you might have a shot.
nickky01 No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:48:00 - [38] the more posts i read in this thread, the more confused i got. at first i was like ok, my sig should be fine since it has my name and my corp name. but then i got confused, since a broken down change dispensing machine is not eve related, does that mean they will take away my sig?? or is it just like, sigs that dont actually have your name or corp in them? confused myself again :( so a sig with just a star wars guy would be a no-no, but a sig with the star wars guy that included your name/corp info would be ok? what if you drew the star wars guy yourself, say in MS paint?
Alasse Cuthalion TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:48:00 - [39] buhu Sig is not eve related - please see the RULES - Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc ([email protected])
maGz The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:50:00 - [40] Edited by: maGz on 11/10/2006 21:53:17 Blah... wonder if anything had been done if Eddz' hadn't posted that thread? PS. Moderators you suck, plain and simple. ____________ The Priory Killboard
Coranor Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:50:00 - [41] Most of the sigs on these boards have nothing to do with eve. An awful lot of them break some kind of copyright of something. So if you remove ours then you're gonna be going through and removing an awful lot of signaturs from these boards. Not to mention all the movies that use music in them if these sigs breach copyright then so do they. If you start now then you might finish some time next month. Oh just in this thread, Moghydin's sig should be removed, Traxio Nacho's sig should be removed, and statics sig should probably be removed for using the pong game in it, sure thats copyrighted somewhere. --------------
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:55:00 - [42] Originally by: maGz Edited by: maGz on 11/10/2006 21:53:17 Blah... wonder if anything had been done if Eddz' hadn't posted that thread? PS. Moderators you suck, plain and simple. WAIT! STOOOOOP! CARRY ON! Talk about being anally retentive. Once again the interpretation of the "rules" of this forum haven't ceased to amaze me. Sig removed, lacks game related content. Please contact [email protected] for more info (including a copy of your picture!) -Pirlouit
RedClaws Amarr Dragon's Rage Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:58:00 - [43] on the topic of bob sigs : Can we have a page where all the sigs are on? They're great and wouldn't want to miss one of them
Gungankllr Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:59:00 - [44] Quote: Signature graphics are permitted, but must follow these guidelines: Signature graphics that may only contain your character name, corporation logo, corporation or personal slogan or other text that is directly related to your in-game persona, or content directly related to EVE Online. All content must be in good taste. The size limits for signature graphics are as follows: Maximum height: 120 pixels Maximum width: 400 pixels Maximum file size: 24,000 bytes (not kbytes) Only one image is allowed to be used in the signature. Images other than the signature image are not allowed to be posted on the forums. _______________________________________________________ From Wikipedia: Quote: On web forums, the rules are often less strict on how a signature block is formatted, as Web browsers typically are not operated within the same constraints as text interface applications. Users will typically use a "signature" text area in their given profile for input, which can then allow a user to turn off signatures. Depending on the board's capabilities, signatures may range from a simple line or two of text to an elaborately-constructed HTML piece. Images are often allowed as well, including dynamically updated images, usually hosted remotely and modified by a server-side script. Signatures are seen as an art form by many of their creators, and there are many websites centered around their creation and display. Most of these websites have competitions, battles and a signature of the week contest, where members submit their entries to have them featured on the main page. The idea behind signatures is to allow players to show pride in their characters, corporation or alliance by letting them create and host visually appealing "calling cards" at the end of their posts. The BoB sigs, while somewhat humorous, didn't have anything to do with Their characters, corporation or alliance. Oh, and for those adding my name into the middle of this mess, I'm within the regulations in size and content. If you have an issue with a superimposed gungan on my signature (after all, Gungankllr is my name) then by all means email Lucasarts and have them contact me. Hidden in this signature is a secret message. Send me isk, Caracals cost money.
HostageTaker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:59:00 - [45] Feckin' commies! I wasn' aware that we were playing on the China cluster... Sig is not eve related - please see the RULES - Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc ([email protected]) >>> EvE Online Wallpapers <<<
Farrellus Cameron Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:59:00 - [46] Originally by: nickky01 the more posts i read in this thread, the more confused i got. at first i was like ok, my sig should be fine since it has my name and my corp name. but then i got confused, since a broken down change dispensing machine is not eve related, does that mean they will take away my sig?? or is it just like, sigs that dont actually have your name or corp in them? confused myself again :( so a sig with just a star wars guy would be a no-no, but a sig with the star wars guy that included your name/corp info would be ok? what if you drew the star wars guy yourself, say in MS paint? Could your sig be removed? Yes. Will it likely be removed? No. They don't have the manpower to go through everyone's sigs, so they only go after noticeable targets or on occassional enforcement sprees. It wouldn't matter if you have your name and corp with the Star Wars stuff, you're still including non-EVE related content. Same goes for a hand drawn Star Wars image, which, incidentally, could still be liable for copyright infringement.
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:01:00 - [47] Originally by: Dynast Can anyone really say they're surprised to see a rule being enforced more aggressively than usual, when an entire alliance decided to shove violations of it in ISD's faces? That's about as smooth as cutting off a police cruiser. ?? 0utbreak have had their sig for like the last 3-4 months, 90% of MC sigs are prob breaking copyright as they put it and not really Eve related.... However they show our ally pic/corp name/ally name.
Alexison Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:01:00 - [48] UNNERF SIGS
Yalson Caldari Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:02:00 - [49] You've got to be kidding me? If they've received cease and desist letters, by all means (even then the sigs are hosted on external servers). But actively removing a fun part of the forum.. ? Sigh. -- Yalson
Gyrn Fzirth Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:04:00 - [50] /me sadly waves bye to his Humuhumunukunukuapua'a of Doom Originally by: TyR Omega [08:59:07] TyR Omega > BoB will come and get
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:05:00 - [51] Originally by: Gungankllr The BoB sigs, while somewhat humorous, didn't have anything to do with Their characters, corporation or alliance. By the forum rules they only need to be EVE RELATED, GK. The captions are, end of story. Now we've lost ours, we've lost outbreaks - sigs that the whole of the community enjoyed. Way to cut the fat, Mods, and whoever whined about it, I hope you're pleased with yourself. Sig removed, lacks game related content. Please contact [email protected] for more info (including a copy of your picture!) -Pirlouit
matty01 No Quarter.	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:06:00 - [52] Originally by: Alexison UNNERF SIGS that is by far the most awesome sig i've ever seen, ever
HostageTaker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:09:00 - [53] Originally by: Gungankllr Quote: Signature graphics are permitted, but must follow these guidelines: Signature graphics that may only contain your character name, corporation logo, corporation or personal slogan or other text that is directly related to your in-game persona, or content directly related to EVE Online. All content must be in good taste. The size limits for signature graphics are as follows: Maximum height: 120 pixels Maximum width: 400 pixels Maximum file size: 24,000 bytes (not kbytes) Only one image is allowed to be used in the signature. Images other than the signature image are not allowed to be posted on the forums. _______________________________________________________ From Wikipedia: Quote: On web forums, the rules are often less strict on how a signature block is formatted, as Web browsers typically are not operated within the same constraints as text interface applications. Users will typically use a "signature" text area in their given profile for input, which can then allow a user to turn off signatures. Depending on the board's capabilities, signatures may range from a simple line or two of text to an elaborately-constructed HTML piece. Images are often allowed as well, including dynamically updated images, usually hosted remotely and modified by a server-side script. Signatures are seen as an art form by many of their creators, and there are many websites centered around their creation and display. Most of these websites have competitions, battles and a signature of the week contest, where members submit their entries to have them featured on the main page. The idea behind signatures is to allow players to show pride in their characters, corporation or alliance by letting them create and host visually appealing "calling cards" at the end of their posts. The BoB sigs, while somewhat humorous, didn't have anything to do with Their characters, corporation or alliance. Oh, and for those adding my name into the middle of this mess, I'm within the regulations in size and content. If you have an issue with a superimposed gungan on my signature (after all, Gungankllr is my name) then by all means email Lucasarts and have them contact me. Actually half of them DID have something to do with our alliance, check your eye sight smart guy! Oh and you better get rid of your sig, it has STAR WARS content in it! Sig is not eve related - please see the RULES - Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc ([email protected]) >>> EvE Online Wallpapers <<<
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:09:00 - [54] Originally by: Gungankllr The BoB sigs, while somewhat humorous, didn't have anything to do with Their characters, corporation or alliance. Mine did and I'm not BoB Consistency for the win? Do for one should do for all really. Signature removed - Lack of Eve related content.Laurelin
EnglishBob 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:16:00 - [55] Just testing my sig, seeing as some BoB guy decided to sell us all out. ------------------
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:17:00 - [56] Enjoy my new sig, mods.
Sforza Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:22:00 - [57] Edited by: Sforza on 11/10/2006 22:23:09 Well.. welcome to the era of tesco value signatures.. Regards Sforza
nickky01 No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:22:00 - [58] Edited by: nickky01 on 11/10/2006 22:22:10 this one should be ok, it applys all the rules: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/lars7480/hahasig1.jpg or would that be copyright infringement?? *edit: sorry for the white background, i suck at MSpaint
Nebba Kenezzer Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:23:00 - [59] Originally by: Erratic Originally by: Leo McGarry please read the RULES YOU'RE LAME MOFO!!! lol, 34kb Nebba - The Vocal Majority
Pepperami Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:24:00 - [60] Originally by: Sforza Edited by: Sforza on 11/10/2006 22:23:09 Well.. welcome to the era of tesco value signatures.. o/ Well, as long as it's the right random..
Alexison Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:25:00 - [61] Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer Originally by: Erratic Originally by: Leo McGarry please read the RULES YOU'RE LAME MOFO!!! lol, 34kb It's high quality.
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:25:00 - [62] Well to be honest they lasted longer than I expected and the rules is the rules. This sig is Eve related and will be replaced shortly by something cool or funny.
Sforza Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:28:00 - [63] Originally by: Pepperami Originally by: Sforza Edited by: Sforza on 11/10/2006 22:23:09 Well.. welcome to the era of tesco value signatures.. o/ Well, as long as it's the right random.. Yes that was a nod to your sig, which has always made me laff Regards Sforza
Toman Torax Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:28:00 - [64] Edited by: Toman Torax on 11/10/2006 22:30:03 To add even more confusion to the subject, there are still SW related sigs being allowed (and shouldn't they be if they are Eve-related?). So I would really like a clarification of what IS allowed and what ISN'T. There were sigs removed that had Eve-related content, but copyrighted material. Yet there are still sigs up with copyrighted material (even SW ones)... and other that are not exactly Eve-related. So which one is it?
Remmington Daniels Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:28:00 - [65] Edited by: Remmington Daniels on 11/10/2006 22:33:19 Sig replaced! edit. It is eve related (http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/04/sig_oxi_crusader.jpg the original image which tbh is a HOT picture of a crusader dunno who made it I just found it on eve files, step up so I can hug you). My corp name and my corp logo. meets the following Quote: * Maximum height: 120 pixels * Maximum width: 400 pixels * Maximum file size: 24,000 bytes (not kbytes) Isn't racist, Facist, ASCNist or anything like that. Thats the sort of thing these forums need. -----------------
HostageTaker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:39:00 - [66] Originally by: EnglishBob Just testing my sig, seeing as some BoB guy decided to sell us all out. If you're gonna point fingers you better point em towards ASCN! Best place to start in my opinion. Yeah I know my siggy sucks, but at least ISD won't remove this one as it meets all requirements.
Tholarim Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:40:00 - [67] If someone takes my clogs i'm quiting!
Zaphod Jones Celtic Anarchy Black Reign Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:43:00 - [68] me thinks the new bunch of mods have WAY too much time on their hands
ElCoCo Gallente KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:46:00 - [69] I think I'll change mine for now to....
Amthrianius Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:46:00 - [70] this better? -------------------- This Eve Related Enough For You?

Ulynidd Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:49:00 - [71] I am in agreement that the forum rules regarding this are too vague, and we will make a decision about this soon. In the mean time, I will give you an opportunity to remove your derogatory signatures or I will have to issue warnings and or forum bans, and I dont want to. _____________________________ Ulynidd Lead Forum Moderator [ Forum Rules ]

Logan Feynman Constructive Influence	Posted - 2006.10.11 22:58:00 - [72] Could we please get serious and precise guidelines from a mod, an official statement with examples of what is acceptable? People invest their time and effort in creating their sigs, and come to identify themselves with them, their sigs appear to conform to the forum rules (no offensive content, eve-related, ...) and yet they get their sigs pwned. Then a mod appears and states "copyright infrigement" as a reason for removal. I seriously do not hold that CCP could be held accountable for forum sigs in any court of law, which means that the users are personally responsible for any possible copyright infringement, and as they were used it should fall under "fair use" policy as it is not used to create any sort of real-life profit from the copyrighted item. I'm sorry to see some of the best sigs in the game go ... they made the forum much more enjoyable, and made their owners (rightly) easier to recognise. After many incidents I witnessed or was directly involved in, this is the first time I do not agree with an action taken by someone representing CCP. Forum moderators are volunteers, and I hope that this action was taken without direct CCP approval. This is not "copyright infringement". This is either panic or a reason that cannot be disclosed. Constructive Influence Recruiting Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes

Ulynidd Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.10.11 23:21:00 - [73] Signatures may contain copyrighted material at the risk of the user, as stated in the eula we are not responsible for all user related content. The rules regarding signatures remains the same; Signature graphics that may only contain your character name, corporation logo, corporation or personal slogan or other text that is directly related to your in-game persona, or content directly related to EVE Online. All content must be in good taste. The size limits for signature graphics are as follows: Maximum height: 120 pixels Maximum width: 400 pixels Maximum file size: 24,000 bytes (not kbytes) Only one image is allowed to be used in the signature. Images other than the signature image are not allowed to be posted on the forums. Just ask if you are unsure. _____________________________ Ulynidd Lead Forum Moderator [ Forum Rules ]

Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 23:31:00 - [74] I'm there!
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 23:37:00 - [75] I believe our sigs meet this criteria, pleased accept this post as an official "question" as to its validity of relevance (not copyright) to eve. Specifically, the quote contained herein. Thanks :)
HostageTaker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 23:38:00 - [76] Thank you for clearing this up. >>> EvE-Online Wallpapers <<<
Ab Initio Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 23:42:00 - [77] Edited by: Ab Initio on 11/10/2006 23:46:18 So we are allowed to use copyrighted material at our own risk, but a sentence later we can only use EVE content? On a related note, mentioning lag in signatures can be met with a ban / warning?
LadyScarlet Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 23:43:00 - [78] i love my sig so did alot of people in eve im glad we got this sorted isd ftw \o/
Toman Torax Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 23:43:00 - [79] Thank you, Ulynidd.
Angelus X Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 23:45:00 - [80] <3 ISD -----
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 23:45:00 - [81] Originally by: Ab Initio So we are allowed to use copyrighted material at our own risk, but a sentance later we can only use EVE content? On a related note, mentioning lag in signatures can be met with a ban / warning? Was prolly more the "mods suck" sigs they're referring to.
HostageTaker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 23:45:00 - [82] I will put our Alliance logo and other crap into every siggy if I have to, but to be perfectly honest even a fool would know that they are EvE related! Otherwise we wouldn't be using them! >>> EvE-Online Wallpapers <<<
Durethia Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 23:45:00 - [83] After some suggestions. I have gone to Star Wars with my new sig. "The Big Lebowski" wasn't as big a hit. Hope you guys like my rendition! Behold!

Ulynidd Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.10.11 23:47:00 - [84] Originally by: Ab Initio Edited by: Ab Initio on 11/10/2006 23:46:18 So we are allowed to use copyrighted material at our own risk Yes Just make sure that your sigs contain your character name, and/or corporation name or corporation logo. _____________________________ Ulynidd Lead Forum Moderator [ Forum Rules ]

Ab Initio Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 23:48:00 - [85] Originally by: Grimster Originally by: Ab Initio So we are allowed to use copyrighted material at our own risk, but a sentance later we can only use EVE content? On a related note, mentioning lag in signatures can be met with a ban / warning? Was prolly more the "mods suck" sigs they're referring to. Ahh, never even saw those. Sounds like someone lost the quick draw contest with the mods :)
theblaze Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 23:48:00 - [86] Thanks for the clarification, however I must delve into the specifics here. Am I to assume that unless the creators of "PongÖ" contact me directly about the usage of my copyrighted material in my sig on these forums, as the file is not hosted here but on a seperate site, then I am free from any ISD moderation under the current rules as stated above? And as an addendum, how would it be possible for the above mentioned parties to obtain any of my personal details including email addresses or methods of contact etc without CCP giving it to them? Thanks for your time. ---- Originally by: Dekein They will fix the node crashes with little text over your modules that say "You are 119th in line to activate Tachyon Beam Laser II"

Ulynidd Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.10.11 23:50:00 - [87] Originally by: theblaze Thanks for the clarification, however I must delve into the specifics here. Am I to assume that unless the creators of "PongÖ" contact me directly about the usage of my copyrighted material in my sig on these forums, as the file is not hosted here but on a seperate site, then I am free from any ISD moderation under the current rules as stated above? And as an addendum, how would it be possible for the above mentioned parties to obtain any of my personal details including email addresses or methods of contact etc without CCP giving it to them? Thanks for your time. If the copyright holders were to contact CCP and they pass us on a mail we will act on it. Regarding your personal details, I believe we will only give those kind of information out to the police, however if you want clarification on that you will need to contact our community management or send a petition. _____________________________ Ulynidd Lead Forum Moderator [ Forum Rules ]

Corey Grim FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.11 23:50:00 - [88] i emailed about my sig to you (not sure if it got trough) to ask is my sig in censored enough.... no response sent so i just slammed this censored one in and it seems to be ok how it is now.. with these new rules i understand that my sig might be ummm lets say border zone..... i hope i can keep my sig but if not i will move to something more .... lets say "not so trying to be funny" (aka more boring) and that sig¦s slogan is game related
Gungankllr Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.11 23:53:00 - [89] I don't think CCP really cares if you use the intelectual property of another in your signature, as their EULA defines they are not responsible for your actions on their forums. I think the forum rules on signatures are in place as a general guide to keep them uniform in both size and content, within the confines of a young-adult friendly(ish) website. What they don't want is people using their WOW forum signatures because you have the same name, or using **ographic pictures, or anything that would be not considered in good taste. THe size restrictions are to keep the sigs from being an 8 1/2 X 11 sheet (Look at some of them in the Scifi.com forums, you'll see what I mean) and keeping them pointed in the right direction. I'm sure CCP WANTS people to have good looking signatures, it shows you have some pride in yourself, your corporation, your alliance or your general play style. New players log on the forums, and if there's a lot of eye candy to look at, they are more likely to feel like Eve is a game they can invest in. That's my opinion on the subject. I don't really care about BoB's sigs, I'd rather they used their sigs constructively than to make billboards to put down ASCN, but as long as they follow the guidelines who am I to say anything about it? The bottom line is having a sig shows you care enough about Eve to spend the time to make one, or have one made for you. They want their players to feel invested with the game, having a good looking signature can help to put you on the path to that. My two cents. Hidden in this signature is a secret message.** Send me isk, Caracals cost money.
Grimster Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 23:54:00 - [90] Great post Gungankllr
Durethia Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 23:56:00 - [91] Originally by: Ulynidd If the copyright holders were to contact CCP and they pass us on a mail we will act on it. I'm not a lawyer, but I don't need to be for mundane knowledge of the law. None of the Star Wars signatures, so far, are in any violation of Copyright or Trademark law of any authority. At least not for Americans. The cheif reason why, is becuase they are all parodies. Parodies are protected even if the work has been copied 100% (Refer to Wierd Al Yankovic, and EVERY Comedian across the globe). The only think you have to do is make the re-work an obvious parody, though humor itself can be subjective. There's also laws protecting good faith use of copyrighted and trademarked material. That's why CCP can't bill us 50cents every time we say "EVE-ONLINE".
Gungankllr Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.12 00:01:00 - [92] Edited by: Gungankllr on 12/10/2006 00:01:42 Originally by: Durethia Originally by: Ulynidd If the copyright holders were to contact CCP and they pass us on a mail we will act on it. I'm not a lawyer, but I don't need to be for mundane knowledge of the law. None of the Star Wars signatures, so far, are in any violation of Copyright or Trademark law of any authority. At least not for Americans. The cheif reason why, is becuase they are all parodies. Parodies are protected even if the work has been copied 100% (Refer to Wierd Al Yankovic, and EVERY Comedian across the globe). The only think you have to do is make the re-work an obvious parody, though humor itself can be subjective. There's also laws protecting good faith use of copyrighted and trademarked material. That's why CCP can't bill us 50cents every time we say "EVE-ONLINE". Lifted from Lucasart's Copyright page: Quote: and all logos, characters, artwork, stories, information, names, and other elements associated thereto are the sole and exclusive property of Lucas. Any use of any of the materials on this Site other than for private, non-commercial viewing purposes is strictly prohibited. The sale, auction, lease, loan, gift, trade or barter, or use of any of the text, graphics, photographs, audio and/or video material or stills from audiovisual material or any other materials contained herein, for any other purpose, in any form, media or technology now known or hereafter developed, including the use of any of the aforementioned materials on any other Web site or networked computer environment, without a prior written consent from Lucas, is expressly prohibited. The creation of derivative works based on the materials contained herein including, but not limited to, products, services, fonts, icons, link buttons, wallpaper, desktop themes, on-line postcards and greeting cards and unlicensed merchandise (whether sold, bartered or given away) is expressly prohibited. Quote: Modification of the materials or use of the materials for any other purpose is a violation of LucasÆs copyright and other proprietary rights. I think in the format these images are being used, Lucasarts isn't going to care unless they get a letter or email from someone. Even then, they may not care. I dunno. Hidden in this signature is a secret message. Send me isk, Caracals cost money.

Ulynidd Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.10.12 00:06:00 - [93] Ok im going to lock this thread now... To save our mods some trouble can the Bob members involved in this make sure their sigs have their character name and / or corporation logo on their signatures. Thanks. _____________________________ Ulynidd Lead Forum Moderator [ Forum Rules ]


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