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Zulak
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Posted - 2006.10.12 06:59:00 -
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That includes both shield and cap ones, looking at their description, their bonus seems to be counter-productive since your cap recharge/sec depends on your total cap, same with shield. So does anyone actually use it or find a good use for them other than melting them down for minerals? I would also mention Auto-Targetter, but I guess I will stop.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2006.10.12 07:03:00 -
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He said the F-word !
The module that shall not be named deserves to burn in hell for all eternity, never to be heard about ever again.
I have no idea why the heck they even put it into the game in the first place ?
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Hamertje
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Posted - 2006.10.12 07:40:00 -
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Well , I'd never ever use it ... but it does increase your max regen rate bye about 15% and it doesn't have the shield boost nerf that CPR's have.
Shield boosting people might be interested in using this ...
A flux coil will give you a (slightly) higher max cap regen rate than a PDS. So, if you're just looking for a higher regen rate, and you don't need the extra grid the PDS gives you... then fitting a flux coil would actually be better than fitting a PDS.
A PDS2 is a bit better than a cap flux coil, but if there would ever be a cap flux coil 2, then that would be quite a bit better than the PDS2 (in fact allmost as good as a CPR !)
some maths :) : (cap/regen time/max regen rate)
no mods: 100 / 100 / 100
flux coil: 85% / 75% / 113,3%
PDS : 104% / 92,5% / 112,6%
flux coil T2 : 85% / 70% / 121,3% (highest cap regen rate without shield boost nerf)
PDS2 : 105% / 91,5% / 114,7%
CPR : 100% / 80% / 125%
It would seem to me that for PVE shield tankers, the flux coil might be a valid alternative to a PDS, not to a PDS2 tho. Flux coil 2 would be quite a bit better than a PDS2 IF you don't need the grid offcourse!
Cheers,
Hammer
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Tomiko Yoshida
Amarr
Sanguine Revelation
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Posted - 2006.10.12 08:57:00 -
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Let's just say that if you need to open a cyno field, and are aware of the few ways you can be hurt while doing so, then a Rapier with maxes Large Shield Extender IIs and Shield Flux's means you get something stupid like 58/sec peak shield regen, and over 18k of shields :)
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Thoris Levithar
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Posted - 2006.10.12 09:24:00 -
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 Originally by: Hamertje
Shield boosting people might be interested in using this ...
A flux coil will give you a (slightly) higher max cap regen rate than a PDS. So, if you're just looking for a higher regen rate, and you don't need the extra grid the PDS gives you... then fitting a flux coil would actually be better than fitting a PDS.
You forget about the second bonus of the PDS...shield boosting. The advantage a CFC or a SFC has over a PDS (in its field) is so minimal that the second bonus of the PDS always outdoes it (IMO). The added grid is just icing on the cake :)
Conclusion: PDS need some nerfing (again IMO). For example, take away either the boosting boni (cap and shield), or take away the direct cap/shield boni. Only then might CFC and SFC become more attractive.
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Pottsey
Gallente
Acme Shipping Inc
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Posted - 2006.10.12 09:58:00 -
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ôShield Flux's means you get something stupid like 58/sec peak shield regen, and over 18k of shields :)ö
Your confusing shield flux for shield relays.
Shield flux modules are very bad.
Passive shield tanking guide click here |
Hamertje
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Posted - 2006.10.12 11:16:00 -
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You're absolutely right , I didn't take the shield boni from a PDS into account making it definitely a lot better than the flux coil!
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.12 11:30:00 -
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There's only one thing that a capacitor flux is good for.
Namely jumpdriving ships in transit. You need x% cap to jump. Cap flux means you hit x% faster.
For ... pretty much anything else, they suck. You're better off with power diagnostics, cap rechargers, shield rechargers, shield/cap power relays.
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Dungheap
Caldari
Dragon's Rage
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.14 02:33:00 -
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cap flux were used to keep laser boats firing. i've heard the ratio of charge rate / total cap was changed (nerfed) quite some time ago. any older players remember the stats ?
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Foulis
Minmatar
Chosen Path
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.14 04:24:00 -
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Originally by: Hamertje
Well , I'd never ever use it ... but it does increase your max regen rate bye about 15% and it doesn't have the shield boost nerf that CPR's have.
Shield boosting people might be interested in using this ...
A flux coil will give you a (slightly) higher max cap regen rate than a PDS. So, if you're just looking for a higher regen rate, and you don't need the extra grid the PDS gives you... then fitting a flux coil would actually be better than fitting a PDS.
A PDS2 is a bit better than a cap flux coil, but if there would ever be a cap flux coil 2, then that would be quite a bit better than the PDS2 (in fact allmost as good as a CPR !)
some maths :) : (cap/regen time/max regen rate)
no mods: 100 / 100 / 100
flux coil: 85% / 75% / 113,3%
PDS : 104% / 92,5% / 112,6%
flux coil T2 : 85% / 70% / 121,3% (highest cap regen rate without shield boost nerf)
PDS2 : 105% / 91,5% / 114,7%
CPR : 100% / 80% / 125%
It would seem to me that for PVE shield tankers, the flux coil might be a valid alternative to a PDS, not to a PDS2 tho. Flux coil 2 would be quite a bit better than a PDS2 IF you don't need the grid offcourse!
Cheers,
Hammer
Gotta keep in mind that PDS' boost max shield and shield regen aswell. Makes them better for shield tankers even with t1.
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Rafein
Eye of God
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.14 06:22:00 -
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Me, there is no reason to fit low slot mod other than a PDU. Other mods give a bit more of a bonus, but PDU's give ecent bonuses to 5 different things, all useful, that they are too useful to overlook.
Even an armor tanking could use the small shield boost and shield regen bonus, as that's a bit longer till they have to tank. It's more of a safety net.
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