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CCP Lebowski
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.02 17:26:51 -
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Afternoon Space Friends,
Another quick post here to let you know of a change Five-0 have ready for testing on Singularity.
When Scylla is released, the default CSPA charge for newly created characters will default to 0 ISK instead of 2950 ISK.
For any existing characters that have their CSPA charge still at the default of 2950 ISK, the charge will also be changed to 0 ISK. Characters that have chosen to set their charge to any other value will be unaffected. All characters can still configure this setting as normal (via the Settings option in the Mail window).
In general, we want to be enabling social interaction in EVE rather than blocking it. The anti-spam value of this feature did not outweigh the downsides of requiring players (especially new players) to pay in order to talk to each other. Most experienced players already change their CSPA charge to 0, so we do not expect this change to negatively affect a large number of players.
As always we're looking for feedback (in this thread) and reports on any issues found (using the in-game bug reporting tool) with this change.
Thanks in advance!
CCP Lebowski | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five-0
@CCP_Lebowski
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
4987
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Posted - 2015.03.02 17:35:00 -
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\o/
Woo! CSM 9!
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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Darkblad
Hilf Dir selbst in EVE
760
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Posted - 2015.03.02 17:35:11 -
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Finally!
Thank you 
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Sugar Kyle
Snuff Box
Snuffed Out
991
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Posted - 2015.03.02 17:35:49 -
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We did ask about raising the limits to but :P
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Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
1509
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Posted - 2015.03.02 17:36:20 -
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Yay!
Now all we need the CSPA charge to actually go into people's wallets instead of into the void. (And remove the upper limit.)
Also: the CSPA charge should only be taken when the conversation is accepted, not when the request is made.
Morwen Lagann
CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar
Owner, The Golden Masque
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Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
2527
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Posted - 2015.03.02 17:37:12 -
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As someone who chats with a LOT of Rookies.
About time and Thank You
m
Mike Azariah-á CSM8 and now CSM9
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GeeShizzle MacCloud
521
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Posted - 2015.03.02 17:39:26 -
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Another change firmly in the Win column! well played! |
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Brave Collective
1644
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Posted - 2015.03.02 17:56:26 -
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@CSM: Stop slacking on the forums and validade the damn devblog!! 
Given the number of people telling everyone to set the CSPA at 0, this is definitely a good change. I just hope it doesn't comes with an increase in the number of spam bots.
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KIller Wabbit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
878
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Posted - 2015.03.02 17:59:59 -
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Thank goodness. The cost and annoyance of helping rookies gets fixed.
CCP .. always first with the wrong stuff
CSM .. CCP Shills with a vacation plan
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Kossaw
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
120
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Posted - 2015.03.02 18:06:32 -
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Morwen Lagann wrote:Yay!
Now all we need the CSPA charge to actually go into people's wallets instead of into the void. (And remove the upper limit.)
Also: the CSPA charge should only be taken when the conversation is accepted, not when the request is made.
^^ This. All of this.
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Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
1109
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Posted - 2015.03.02 18:21:17 -
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Wait... The ISk doesn't go to the player...
Hahaha oh lord..... That's just so sad it's funny.
Yaay!!!!
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Suitonia
Genos Occidere
Warlords of the Deep
463
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Posted - 2015.03.02 18:31:26 -
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Great change
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Sir Livingston
Club Deadspace
328
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Posted - 2015.03.02 18:47:21 -
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Finally
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Wrik Hoover
Hoover Inc.
Pandemic Legion
105
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Posted - 2015.03.02 18:52:02 -
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bad idea |
Darkblad
Hilf Dir selbst in EVE
762
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Posted - 2015.03.02 18:59:26 -
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Morwen Lagann wrote:Now all we need the CSPA charge to actually go into people's wallets instead of into the void. (And remove the upper limit.) Not that much of a creative way to scam people, or is it? But that's what this would be used for the minute TQ is live after patch deployment.
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Moxy Algaert
Running with Dogs
Nerfed Alliance Go Away
0
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Posted - 2015.03.02 19:05:17 -
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Thank you, thank you, thank you! |
Liner Xiandra
Sparks Inc
360
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Posted - 2015.03.02 19:06:29 -
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Morwen Lagann wrote:Yay!
Now all we need the CSPA charge to actually go into people's wallets instead of into the void. (And remove the upper limit.)
Also: the CSPA charge should only be taken when the conversation is accepted, not when the request is made.
This please. |
Agata Black
Minami no Kantai
2
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Posted - 2015.03.02 19:07:33 -
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Sugar Kyle wrote:We did ask about raising the limits to but :P
Aww... I was hoping it was this when I opened the thread. But fair enough, I hope it work out as intended. |
Messenger Of Truth
Butlerian Crusade
1
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Posted - 2015.03.02 19:10:00 -
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Phoenix Jones wrote:Wait... The ISk doesn't go to the player...
If the isk goes to the player then the game is paying/incentivising people to put up a communication block. If you don't have a CSPA charge then you are earning less money than you could be and playing sub-optimally. Having the money go to the player would be an unmitigated disaster and would harm the game. The current system of the money disappearing out of the game is the only reasonable approach for this feature.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
16155
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Posted - 2015.03.02 19:34:18 -
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CCP Lebowski wrote:Afternoon Space Friends,
Another quick post here to let you know of a change Five-0 have ready for testing on Singularity.
When Scylla is released, the default CSPA charge for newly created characters will default to 0 ISK instead of 2950 ISK.
For any existing characters that have their CSPA charge still at the default of 2950 ISK, the charge will also be changed to 0 ISK. Characters that have chosen to set their charge to any other value will be unaffected. All characters can still configure this setting as normal (via the Settings option in the Mail window).
In general, we want to be enabling social interaction in EVE rather than blocking it. The anti-spam value of this feature did not outweigh the downsides of requiring players (especially new players) to pay in order to talk to each other. Most experienced players already change their CSPA charge to 0, so we do not expect this change to negatively affect a large number of players.
As always we're looking for feedback (in this thread) and reports on any issues found (using the in-game bug reporting tool) with this change.
Thanks in advance!
Finally.
Spam hasn't been a problem for a long while.
Thanks for this change.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
14051
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Posted - 2015.03.02 19:38:19 -
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Good change!
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Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
1109
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Posted - 2015.03.02 19:41:14 -
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Messenger Of Truth wrote:Phoenix Jones wrote:Wait... The ISk doesn't go to the player...
If the isk goes to the player then the game is paying/incentivising people to put up a communication block. If you don't have a CSPA charge then you are earning less money than you could be and playing sub-optimally. Having the money go to the player would be an unmitigated disaster and would harm the game. The current system of the money disappearing out of the game is the only reasonable approach for this feature.
Very sound post. Thank you for the explanation. Makes sense now.
Yaay!!!!
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Longinius Spear
Isogen 5
287
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Posted - 2015.03.02 19:43:56 -
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Could we please take this opportunity to change the MAX we could set thee CSPA charge?
1 million isn't enough.
Lets set it at 1billion please, I don't like being bothered by plebs.
Read more of my ramblings on my blog www.invadingyourhole.blogspot.com
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Daniel Jackson
Liandri Sanctuary Corps
Liandri Covenant
184
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Posted - 2015.03.02 19:55:30 -
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thank you! ive spent millions and millions possibly 100mil + on chatting to rookies, thank you soo much
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5903
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Posted - 2015.03.02 19:57:48 -
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Nice little change there, good show!
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
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Kazvon Saken
HC - Fatal Mining Encounter
Aporkalypse Now
0
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Posted - 2015.03.02 20:01:15 -
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Finally. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
3194
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Posted - 2015.03.02 20:11:10 -
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will the mystery be ever lifted why it was 2950 ISK in the first place?
how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
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Axloth Okiah
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
588
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Posted - 2015.03.02 20:32:58 -
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awesome
W-Space Realtor
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Cpt Patrick Archer
Quam Singulari
Northern Associates.
28
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Posted - 2015.03.02 20:47:52 -
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Good idea! I cant even count the number of times where I had to explain a newbie how change that. Setting up fleets will never be the same :p |
Stune Khai
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2015.03.02 21:45:33 -
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Good change, but are there other ways to prevent spam? |
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