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EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.03 15:24:22 -
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we have to create a strategic mining division to protect important systems are you ******* kidding me
nullsec mining has been broken for ages, go look at the price of mega and zyd and then think about why on earth mining should play a role here |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.03 15:34:40 -
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My initial thought is that this hugely, hugely favors attackers. Anyone without massive support from allies will get instantly steamrolled.
In other words, welcome to the EVE Cold War: if you're not part of the CFC bloc or the N3 block, you will be sent back to Jita in an afternoon. |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.03 15:46:28 -
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Awkward Pi Duolus wrote:If you think Reavers were bad... you just made it very hard for any casual alliance to hold sov in the face of a dedicated core of folks from one of the blocs dropping sov simply to grief.
Remember that larger alliances have the ability to organize and sustain action better than most smaller ones. One outcome of these changes may very well be large areas of wasteland that is regularly mowed of sov 'just cause'. yeah, anyone who does not bend the knee will be summarily wiped out
brb getting to work on some sufficiently degrading oaths of fealty |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.03 15:49:23 -
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Karbowiak wrote:Am i the only one wishing that we'd get the old pos warfare sov system back? no, i liked that and it was significantly better in a lot of ways than this or dominion
it was completely broken by AOE doomsdays protecting cynojammers, but that's gotten fixed, and fuel blocks exist now |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.03 15:58:40 -
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how is this for our upcoming oaths of fealty from any non-aligned entity:
I, [insert your name here], pledge my undying fealty to Mittani, the King of Space, asking nothing but that he considers not squashing me out of nullsec like a bug because he has a hangover and wants to hurt someone but, recognizing my complete inability to do anything about it if he so chooses because nobody can stand against a motivated attacker, recognize that my existence in nullsec is purely at his sufferance and that even this pledge of loyalty only tips the scales somewhat in favor of my being allowed to exist. to further tip the scales in favor of my potential survival, i promise an unending stream of gifts, praise, and reaffirmations of my abject submission in the most ingrating position of surrender possible.
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EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:09:27 -
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i just checked, literally the only people praising this design are people in npc corps |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:13:08 -
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Two step wrote:like for example is a reward rebalance even planned?
oh you sweet summer child |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:26:52 -
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the short answer is that there is no incentive to hold space in this model - it's just too easy for anyone to take it from you. you invest in your space in any way and someone will squash it for funsies. it's insanely overpowered from the attack side, and my guess is that the design team at no point considered "well, why are people going to be here to be attacked in the first place?"
i am sure that the response will be "well someone else will move in!". but then we'll squash them for funsies from either our fortress region or our new home in lowsec because null just isn't worth the effort.
you cannot just make sand castles insanely easy to kick over when there's no motivation to have them. what will happen is nullsec will quickly devolve into an orgy of destruction, which will be used to justify this bad design through ~statistics~ with nary a thought of what happens once that orgy of destruction finishes. that orgy of destruction will only be possible because of the years of sand castles built up under previous systems, and once those are all gone, there won't be any more. but by that point we will have a dev blog full of cherry-picked statistics about how much of a success this is and then years of stagnation that are ignored
well, guess i'll have some fun in the upcoming orgy at the end of the world~~~ |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:30:06 -
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RogueHunteer wrote:Must say this new systems looks nice and new sov system will make lot of have fun pew pew! nice job ccp! Few things I would like to maybe change on this idea is fact you place to much on IHUB and not lot of the TCU.
I was hoping the TCU would effect the strategic index levels. Since you place the 25% fuel saving with the TCU. Let TCU control the strategic index levels for the STARBASES. Let the IHUB control the upgrades for system. Station is worth on it's own!
when you're sockpuppeting posts liking a concept you have to change characters dude, people notice when it's just the same one |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:34:31 -
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Speedkermit Damo wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote:In other words, welcome to the EVE Cold War: if you're not part of the CFC bloc or the N3 block, you will be sent back to Jita in an afternoon. Tell us exactly how it's any different now?
i have to commit to grinding about a billion EHP if i want to steamroll providence for funsies today
with i can do it in a few days with subcap fleets
it's not MUCH worse since it's already quite bad but when you're trying to fix a problem and actually make it worse, you sure didn't think things through |
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EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.03 16:43:09 -
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2Sonas1Cup wrote:I trully love this change, I can tell how much dynamic and activity it ill bring to eve.
Obviously not everyone can understand it, especially old vets that are accostumed to an easier way of eve. see, only npc characters like this |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.03 17:28:37 -
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MiliasColds wrote:everyone keeps saying 10 minutes, ITS ONLY 10 MINUTES IF YOU HAVE 0 INDICES. so yes they can take the systems you have but don't use, if you use them no it's more like 30-40 minutes. which you should be able to kill him in. systems with mining indexes are few and far between so you're looking at systems with mil5 and sov5 as your best-case scenario, and most important systems actually have too many people in local to effectively watch local while ratting so their mildex is not at 5 |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.03 17:36:40 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:Tia Aves wrote:If anyone wants a more balanced and thought out view as opposed to all of the mindless whining I highly suggest the thread on the EVE sub-Reddit. /r/EVE is an anti-CFC circlejerk, so that's hardly surprising. I'm sure everyone there supports these changes out of spite. when it comes to this, its not so much an anti-cfc circlejerk as a bunch of people who no longer hold sov
people who hold sov but hate us realize how bad this is |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.03 17:43:25 -
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M1k3y Koontz wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote:we have to create a strategic mining division to protect important systems are you ******* kidding me
nullsec mining has been broken for ages, go look at the price of mega and zyd and then think about why on earth mining should play a role here I'm sure your AFK-tars will be able to kill enough rats to make up for your lack of miners. that's not possible under this system which is why its bad
once mildex is 5 no amount of anything you do that is "occupying" your space besides mining will help |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.03 17:45:12 -
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Proton Stars wrote: Sure, but did they as our elected representatives stand up and say yes this is great, or did they try to punch Fozzie in the face for being so stupid?
they certainly aren't posting in here supporting it which says something |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.03 18:34:16 -
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Tiberian Deci wrote: TEST can stand on it's own without aid from 15,000 other people too,
i suppose that just because it's never happened before is no guarantee it can never happen in the future |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.03 18:35:31 -
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Olya Tsarev wrote:Aryndel Vyst wrote:Sounds like you should report this to security and provide proof instead of being a big baby *****. Well actually here's the thing, I don't need to provide proof whatsoever. I can make these claims all I want. #FreedomOfSpeechYo I also like how you had to throw in a really petty insult to drive across the fact I struck a nerve. Thanks Vystypoo <4 "every time people mock me for faceplanting they're secretly validating they care about me :3:" |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.03 18:58:50 -
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epicurus ataraxia wrote:Well taking advice from the null posters who did everything within their power to troll up the Hyperion thread for wormhole space, and like them I know less than jack**** about your area of space, I must be uniquely qualified to pontificate about null changes.
Seems like an excellent series of changes.
Is it too early to utter the immortal cry "HTFU"? Too soon?
well, I suppose we will have to amend the people supporting this to "npc corp members, and wormholers who freely admit they don't understand it but just want to troll" |
EvilweaselFinance
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.03 19:08:11 -
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KC Kamikaze wrote: Real attempts to take sov will still escalate to epic cap fleets
why? reason this out for me, what advantage does a cap fleet give you in holding five specific grids in a constellation, especially given spaceaids |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.03 19:42:32 -
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Caius Sivaris wrote:People that can't catch a fast ship have no business holding sov, and it requires a lock anyway so damps/ECM work. people who won't commit to a fight in any way have no business contesting sov |
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EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.04 14:32:31 -
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Manfred Sideous wrote: Besides the name on the map why would anyone choose to move to nullsec? ( Incursions , level 5's already offer more isk per hour than nullsec. ). I think this has been pointed out before and ccp just talks about that most isk comes from nullsec.
I strongly suspect CCP only is looking at isk, not wealth, so the LP "doesn't count" and neither do minerals, etc. |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.04 16:38:22 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote: hes doe s not get the cocnept that this is the exaclty effect that CCP wants. That huge power blocs forego the unused space.
this is likely, yes
however people keep assuming that it means someone else will move in and get to live there, and keep thinking it means they finally get to have a system for their corp of three semi-literate drunken toddlers
what they do not seem to grasp is that just because i don't feel like going to the effort of owning, say, providence doesn't mean i don't feel like smashing anyone who does try to own it in the face and farming them so brutally it makes PL's treatment of HERO look downright loving
why on earth would we allow you to live when you can't defend yourself and will probably whine impotently about how we're not playing fair and attacking is so hideously overpowered it will be a walk in the park |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.04 16:41:26 -
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Eli Apol wrote:Karash Amerius wrote:I am thinking the Troll Laser needs to be restricted to a heavier ship such as a battle cruiser or above.
Love the tears here...great work CCP. Definitely not. If you can't respond to a frigate fleet, you don't live locally enough. Restricting it to larger hulls completely undermines the concept of using your space. why should you get to contest sov without even putting a t1 battlecruiser at risk? the issue isn't being unable to respond to an interceptor fleet, it's that an interceptor fleet has no risk whatsoever to its pilots
if you're too much of a coward to even risk a single t1 battlecruiser you have no business in the big leagues |
EvilweaselFinance
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.04 16:47:23 -
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M1k3y Koontz wrote:And the interceptors pose no threat as long as you aren't an absentee landlord. the interceptors force you to go to the effort of reacting to that interceptor, at which point it buzzes away and starts hitting a system ten jumps away (because it is a sub 2s warping nullified ship) causing a great deal of effort to be expended on the part of the defenders at no cost or risk to the pilot
if it's actually an absentee landlord your t1 battlecruiser is at no risk: but you're terrified of using any ship that could actually get caught and killed if you miscalculate.
if you aren't willing to risk a single ship when you're generating timers you should be in highsec cowering under CONCORD protection |
EvilweaselFinance
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.04 16:48:50 -
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Eli Apol wrote:Once you get your own frigs there then there's gonna be every chance of a proper fight escalating - or the intys just move on to find some undefended space.
there is no chance of a fight with one side in interceptors escalating because interceptors don't take fights
they are cowardships which is why the only people legitimately supporting interceptors being able to create timers are people who want to be in the big leagues but are terrified of ever losing anything so they need their cowardship so they can flee in terror as soon as something lands on grid |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.04 16:54:11 -
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Sael Va'Tauri wrote: between 250 to 500 Grid would actually be a pretty good place for the Link. You could drop that on T1 cruisers and T1 BCs if you forgo either some weapons or tank on them, and you wouldn't be able to cram them on anything smaller. A BS would be able to fit them without too much worry about compromise as long as you can spare the high slot.
If someone isn't defending their space, you could roll in with a couple of Mallers and cap out a system pretty quickly, with low risk. However, if someone is defending their space, you're not going to be able to run away terribly fast while also maintaining a low risk setup.
yeah, this is reasonable: an undefended area can get whacked by cheap, disposable ships but if you try that on inhabited space you'll get whacked and lose your ship
i think the link itself should be more expensive as it's still too cheap, but if you want to try to put sov at risk your ship should at least be at risk as well, and an interceptor is never, ever at risk unless you've had one too many drinks |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:04:46 -
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KC Kamikaze wrote:The "Protection" of tomorrow you speak of is todays rental agreement.
The new system will be great. Small groups can claim and hold sov. We have multiboxing alt corps holding down wormholes .. now some of those and more can move to holding their own piece of null. The only people who don't win are big coalitions .. and you have more than the means and resources to survive.
what makes you think i won't squash you for funsies
we spent three months squashing anyone who dared mine gallente ice in highsec, what makes you think that every shitlord who raises a flag isn't going to look like a nail to swing my massive hammer at |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:09:39 -
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Eli Apol wrote: And then 2 days later they just retake it back because you can't effectively defend the whole of nullsec.
Meanwhile all your empty systems are flipped by troll fleets every day because you're too thinly spread.
i didn't say take it, i said squash you
i then go off and squash the next guy who thought that empty space meant he could live there and delight in his squeals of rage, and then come back and squash you again once you think you're allowed to live in nullsec
you seem to think that if i can't have it that means you can have it but it is delightful to rip your tiny toys away from you and stomp on them even if they're too cheap and unfun for me to want in my massive toy box |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:13:53 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Yes of course you are going to wield that hammer, but the fun part is that smaller entities will go light, TCU next to a deathstar and some even working together to deal with your hammer, it will be fun won't it? oh dear me a deathstar however will we deal with a single pos we have never managed to take one of those down before
and oh dear me FIVE groups of ten guys each who have never ventured out of highsec and are hilariously incompetent that is so much more fearsome than one of those groups and definitely not an even richer vein of rage that ccp has still not raised you up to our level |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:15:16 -
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Eli Apol wrote:How do you squash me when my troll fleet is based out of NPC corps in highsec and just roams around every day RFing all your empty systems and never engaging in a fight? In fact, I can pretty much do that solo, I don't even need a fleet :D see you've basically proven my point: the people who want entosis on interceptors are the people who are terrified of engaging in a fight
if this system is to provoke fights then inties can't have the link |
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EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:16:48 -
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KC Kamikaze wrote:LMAO yes Evilweasel ... I'm sure you and your massive hammer can hold down null sec and keep the shitlords at bay. I'm sure everyone will be too scared to move into null. Sounds like a lot of fun wardeccing bears and ganking their ice miners. could you call yourselves "the honey badger coalition" when you all move into null so we can repeat the last time we squashed a bunch of incompetents like a bug who thought that quantity was quality |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:20:43 -
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Lena Lazair wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote:i didn't say take it, i said squash you What are you going to squash? Small alliances won't drop ihubs or station eggs. They'll have a TCU and a few POS's. When you come through and flip the TCU they'll evacuate any POS's they need to and then log off for a week. You'll "squash" the TCU, maybe explode some POS's (if you REALLY want to commit a fleet to that), and then leave. Next week they'll login, flip your TCU back, and go on with life as normal. Unless CFC plans to go out and defend every single TCU timer in every constellation they "squashed", you'll be nothing more than a minor annoyance a few weeks of the year. i will be content with barring anyone from having any assets more sizable than a single pos with nothing valuable attached to it as they look forlornly at the station they wish they could use if not for the big bad goons |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:24:13 -
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KC Kamikaze wrote:EvilweaselFinance wrote: could you call yourselves "the honey badger coalition" when you all move into null so we can repeat the last time we squashed a bunch of incompetents like a bug who thought that quantity was quality
Oh I dunno that I've ever run into your corp before, but i'll make a note so when we roll into you and watch you dock up cause you don't want your **** pushed in I can remind you of that big hammer you own. ok, good luck with that, see you soon |
EvilweaselFinance
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:46:37 -
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KC Kamikaze wrote:LMAO so i looked you up. Your corp has 16 members. Hope... PRAY... we don't f'king run into you cause i'll SRP our entire fleet out of my own pocket if necessary to make you cry like the little renter ***** you are. I just want to point out some basic killboard stats: Buttecorp INC: Destroyed 2.19b Lost: 3.26b Blue-Fire: Destroyed 2.05t Lost 690b By the looks of it if we brought the fight you would get your s_hit pushed in as i would expect of any typical nullbear corp hiding behind a big alliance ticker. https://zkillboard.com/corporation/911536135/ https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98122843/ Your are a small fish in a big pond with ***** envy.
you do realize what an alt corp is, right
frankly i'm surprised we've destroyed 2.19b as i don't know that this altcorp has anyone who can fire a gun right now, though zkillboard seems to be shitting itself so i can't see
but go ahead and bark, my capital pilot in goonwaffe has destroyed close to a quarter of what your entire corporation has~~~
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EvilweaselFinance
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:51:26 -
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Dracvlad wrote: Big deal, you are still posting with an industrial alt which does kinda lesson the impact of your hammer statement a far bit, actually a lot to be honest.
oh no, the pubbies begging ccp to help them are not sufficiently wowed by the last character i happened to log in on from this computer
the shame, the everlasting shame |
EvilweaselFinance
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Posted - 2015.03.04 17:56:43 -
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oh my mistake, now that zkillboard is up i see my cap pilot has 790b in kills not 450b
so whatever that scrubtier corporation that has 2t split between like 100 guys, lawl |
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