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LadyScarlet
Minmatar
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.18 05:02:00 -
[91]
i bought stock in black leather boots 
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ProphetGuru
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.18 05:22:00 -
[92]
I think McRediculous read an old Evol post and got confused.
We Smell the sea....
We don't play on it.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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franny
Phoenix Knights
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Posted - 2006.10.18 05:39:00 -
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does ANYONE actually believe the blogs?
i'm pretty sure my 7 yr old could tell they are bull....
anyway keep em up ASCN, they are funny 
I just have to remember to not read em at work, it's hard to not **** myself laughing
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King Leonidas
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.18 07:31:00 -
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Edited by: King Leonidas on 18/10/2006 07:31:38
 Originally by: ProphetGuru
I think McRediculous read an old Evol post and got confused.
We Smell the sea....
We don't play on it.
I dunno thrak is always down the shore smelling seamen and he definitely plays with them.
King
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Erin Kingsman
Gallente
A.W.M
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Posted - 2006.10.18 07:50:00 -
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Quote:
Which makes me sad, because I really wanted to believe that it was possible for an alliance to survive in 0.0 without focusing primarily in PvP. Alas, it seems that PvP must be the primary interest of an alliance in order to thrive in 0.0.
"Only warriors choose peace." - some guy whose name I forgot
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Ab Initio
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.18 07:55:00 -
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Originally by: Taedrin
It seems that this so called "War" was over before it even began. Which makes me sad, because I really wanted to believe that it was possible for an alliance to survive in 0.0 without focusing primarily in PvP. Alas, it seems that PvP must be the primary interest of an alliance in order to thrive in 0.0. And because I am not only horrible at PvP, but will also never be able to compete with older players with more than twice my 7 million sps, this means that I am forever barred from 0.0 
C'est la vie...
A couple of points that might be of value to you here.
1. PVP is a big part of the game, but it's the most balanced entity that wins, not the best warriors. Speaking as an EVOL member, there is no real industrialist / pvper split. We all get our hands dirty. Those of us who do choose the indy over the intie aren't treated any differently :P
2. With your amount of SP, you could happily fit into any group out there and play a useful role. Personally, I use a seperate low SP character for frig PVP, because he's completely specialised to the task. You don't need 40mill SP to play in 0.0.
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Nero Winger
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.18 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Taedrin
It seems that this so called "War" was over before it even began. Which makes me sad, because I really wanted to believe that it was possible for an alliance to survive in 0.0 without focusing primarily in PvP. Alas, it seems that PvP must be the primary interest of an alliance in order to thrive in 0.0. And because I am not only horrible at PvP, but will also never be able to compete with older players with more than twice my 7 million sps, this means that I am forever barred from 0.0
C'est la vie...
pvp is not everything, industrials are needet to and while they are respected from their corpmembers they can earn a huge amount of money on the way helpind their corp/alliance. there is bob again a good example, as i know there are some corps in bobspace living in bobspace and are protected from bob who are only industrials and do not have any pvp wings.
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Roxanna Kell
BURN EDEN
Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2006.10.18 08:58:00 -
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PVP first.
Industry second.
if you do it the other way around, you will end up like them
Quote:
"Don't touch the red button!"
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Rod Blaine
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.18 09:02:00 -
[99]
Edited by: Rod Blaine on 18/10/2006 09:02:26
Originally by: Roxanna Kell
PVP first.
Industry second.
if you do it the other way around, you will end up like them
No, there is no second.
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Lord Draco
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.18 09:12:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Taedrin
And because I am not only horrible at PvP, but will also never be able to compete with older players with more than twice my 7 million sps, this means that I am forever barred from 0.0
C'est la vie...
Not true
If you can fly an interceptor you are more valuable than a pooly fit battleship (look at the geddon that had 1200's fit and stabs fit).
Also, its the fact that ascn has dwindling numbers. I've seen their memebrs leave others to die when they could have turned the tide more often than I want to count. One thing about bob members is we know we can count on every person in our gang.
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franny
Phoenix Knights
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Posted - 2006.10.18 09:44:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Taedrin
It seems that this so called "War" was over before it even began. Which makes me sad, because I really wanted to believe that it was possible for an alliance to survive in 0.0 without focusing primarily in PvP. Alas, it seems that PvP must be the primary interest of an alliance in order to thrive in 0.0. And because I am not only horrible at PvP, but will also never be able to compete with older players with more than twice my 7 million sps, this means that I am forever barred from 0.0
/minor thread-jack on
it's attitude, not skillpoints that makes 0.0
my alt(granted alt), was 1 day old and had her 1st pvp death in syndicate(to a HUGE ASS Fleet)
TCC was a largely industrial alliance, with a core group of PVPers, we held on in a war vs BRS for 8? mths or so(in Syndicate, low sec Solitude, and Core empire)... at which point, we lost about half our core pvpers due to internal conflicts and Juba leaving
if you have the attitude dieing is fun, that it's just a game, and all that, you can survive in 0.0
(it helps being blue to BoB, but thats another issue *makes sure rent is paid*)
also in that war, one of our (industrial iirc) pilots, had a friggy alt, she racked up more kills solo and grouped than half the BS pilots
there is ALWAYS a need for the little guy, and not just as cannon fodder... ceptors/frig tacklers, anti frig/ceptor support ships, etc
hell with all the stababond pilots around, a dictor pilot is like a gift from god these days
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Ian Novarider
Eve Defence Force
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.18 12:58:00 -
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Week 3 :
BoB still talking to themselves on EVE-O forums for the third week straight. 
Have fun - we do 
Ian
Quote:
Know thy enemy and know thyself and thou will be victorious in all thy battles.
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Jackson Day
Jacksons Shop
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Posted - 2006.10.18 12:59:00 -
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As every BoB vs ASCN thread is made up of 50 BoB members saying the same thing... which is basically that the ASCN leadship is lying.
Would anyone in ASCN be stupid enough to believe that their enemies are helping them ?
Of course BoB are going to say these things, they want ASCN members to leave ASCN and not trust their own leaders.
From a neutral point of view, the more BoB chest beat, the more I beleive they are not doing as well as they thought they would.
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Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.10.18 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jackson Day
As every BoB vs ASCN thread is made up of 50 BoB members saying the same thing... which is basically that the ASCN leadship is lying.
Would anyone in ASCN be stupid enough to believe that their enemies are helping them ?
Of course BoB are going to say these things, they want ASCN members to leave ASCN and not trust their own leaders.
From a neutral point of view, the more BoB chest beat, the more I beleive they are not doing as well as they thought they would.
How dare you.
BoB speak nothing but the truth on these forums. Anyone who claims otherwise loses at EVE, and thats a *fact*
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ponieus
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.18 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Jackson Day
As every BoB vs ASCN thread is made up of 50 BoB members saying the same thing... which is basically that the ASCN leadship is lying.
Would anyone in ASCN be stupid enough to believe that their enemies are helping them ?
Of course BoB are going to say these things, they want ASCN members to leave ASCN and not trust their own leaders.
From a neutral point of view, the more BoB chest beat, the more I beleive they are not doing as well as they thought they would.
and the more i read stuff like this makes me want to continue on our path of killing ASCN..
CLueless FTW>
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Zagum Darkfin
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.18 14:15:00 -
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Ohhh noooesss, we are loosing badly we have to post 100 times abuut the same topic!!!!
There is not a day goes by when we don't wait with anticipation for the next post from the ASCN leadership and learn how badly we are doing. We find out soo much information about ourselves from ASCN, we would be lost without them!!!
OOps , darn another ASCN freighter went POP. BOB is just not doing much in this war. Man the Sails men!! Thar be gold for plunderin'!!!
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Buxaroo
Black Dwarf
Caldari Deep Space Industral
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Posted - 2006.10.18 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ab Initio
Originally by: Taedrin
It seems that this so called "War" was over before it even began. Which makes me sad, because I really wanted to believe that it was possible for an alliance to survive in 0.0 without focusing primarily in PvP. Alas, it seems that PvP must be the primary interest of an alliance in order to thrive in 0.0. And because I am not only horrible at PvP, but will also never be able to compete with older players with more than twice my 7 million sps, this means that I am forever barred from 0.0
C'est la vie...
A couple of points that might be of value to you here.
1. PVP is a big part of the game, but it's the most balanced entity that wins, not the best warriors. Speaking as an EVOL member, there is no real industrialist / pvper split. We all get our hands dirty. Those of us who do choose the indy over the intie aren't treated any differently :P
2. With your amount of SP, you could happily fit into any group out there and play a useful role. Personally, I use a seperate low SP character for frig PVP, because he's completely specialised to the task. You don't need 40mill SP to play in 0.0.
Dude you are so wrong. Beleive me, your SP do not = you. SP just means you get better toys to play with. It's all about tactics and knowledge of the game. Take for instance a fellow corp/alliance mate. He just killed a guy in a cerberus.....with his thorax with the help of a blackbird. The HAC pilot was 2 years old. The 2 corp/alliance guys were 1 year old each. Both his thorax and the BB left the scene and the cerb pilot left via cloning facility. It's all about balls and tactics and using them effectively.
I have been playing this game for less than a year. I just broke the 12 million SP barrier. But did I wait until today to go to 0.0 and do my thing? Hell no. I have been in 0.0 sense my first week of being a pod pilot. I have been killed a lot, but I have killed far more than I have been killed. The thing you need to get rid of in your mind is the idea of loosing ships/mods/pods. It's all part of the learning process. Never get angry you lost a ship, never get worked up that you just lost that prescious faction mod you ratted for hours to get. It's all part of the game.
I love this game to death. I take it seriously in a lot of ways. But I don't take it seriously in the incorrect way like a lot of empire dwellers do. I don't worry about my faction fitted ship or my tech 2 fitted ship when I go into combat. People in empire worry about their prescious things like that. That is what holds you back. I don't know how many times I have lsot my ship and was laughing about it when it happened or afterwards. Not that I like to loose ships, but I ain't afraid of loosing a fight. Everyone looses once in awhile. Don't be afraid of loosing. It's what sets you back in everything you will do.
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getoverhere
Minmatar
Nightstalkers
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Posted - 2006.10.18 15:24:00 -
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Edited by: getoverhere on 18/10/2006 15:24:43
Originally by: Drake Modain
A few generic questions for us observers:
2: Could someone post the ASCN killboard link (bob's too for those who don't have it). You know people this IS just a game, we're all having fun, a clear organized location for people to get updates on thewar seems logical, esp considering the age of communication and media.
You won't get anything constructive on that, as they like to conveniently forget to post alot of loss mails 
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Gothikia
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.18 15:44:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Shrike
On popular demand
ONOES!
Goatthrowing vikingships anyone?
Hehe, gotta love it.
Originally by: Ian Novarider
Week 3 :
BoB still talking to themselves on EVE-O forums for the third week straight.
Have fun - we do
Ian
You see, the reason we're on forums alot, is cos you guys hardly ever show up, then when you do, you die too damned fast.  So we gotta entertain ourselfs in some form or another... 
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Zooish
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Posted - 2006.10.18 15:47:00 -
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BoB are boring "full stop"
Another thread of BoB, BoB, BoB, are you really that insecure you have to have your
entire player base posting on every single message to simply try and make your
points falsely seem more valid and worth while .....
Please leave Eve and let everyone else have fun and a lag free experience ...
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Dark Matter
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.18 15:57:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Ian Novarider
Week 3 :
BoB still talking to themselves on EVE-O forums for the third week straight.
Have fun - we do
Ian
But Ian as you well know you talk to us on the ASCN forums, we just reply here.
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Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.18 16:02:00 -
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Edited by: Tzrailasa on 18/10/2006 16:02:21
Originally by: Jackson Day
As every BoB vs ASCN thread is made up of 50 BoB members saying the same thing... which is basically that the ASCN leadship is lying.
Actually, this is not a fair statement of fact.
Whenever one of the ASCN leaders comes out with one of their blogs/summaries/etc., what we do is that we rip their statements apart in public, and expose USUALLY WITH PROOF that the ASCN leaders are lying through their teeth to their members.
A lot of people will then jump on us and say that we're lying about it, but contrary to us, they never provide proof.
Why, pretty simple. The large majority of drivel from the ASCN leaders ARE lies, or at least mis-representations of the truth, where we usually base our claims on facts and proof.
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RUNYOUFOOLS
Caldari
eXceed Inc.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.18 18:26:00 -
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Edited by: RUNYOUFOOLS on 18/10/2006 18:27:39
Originally by: DoctorGonzo
John McCreedy and CYVOC's blog's to the ASCN members have to be some of the best EvE material to date. They make the lies that the PA leadership told their members look positively tame. It's like the difference between a man's lie - "Honey, I was at John's house" compared to a womanÆs lie - "It's your f*cking baby".
I have a question to the ASCN rank and file, although I know you won't reply as you're being censored and not allowed to post, much like the PA membership was. Anyway, do you actually believe the stuff in your leaderÆs blogÆs, like really believe it? Do you believe we're about to change games and that's why we're going after ASCN? Do you believe our morale is being dented or in CYVOC's words 'BoB getting desperate'? Do you believe Madeye McCreedy's adding up of killboard stats? Do you believe we fake killmails? Do you believe we deliberately try to make the nodes crash?
Okay that was more than one question, but the under lying theme is the same in each one. Food for thought to the average ASCN member I think.
Think i'll get my wrists slapped for this but mehh. its a fair question so here it is.
Nope
However do I think im on the wrong side and cant win this war
Nope
heres a lesson to you spineless wimps that snipe from the cheap seats with alts.. post with your main.
edit for typos
Well do you love eggs?
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fire 59
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.19 11:21:00 -
[114]
Originally by: fuze
Originally by: Tzrailasa
The large majority of drivel from the ASCN leaders ARE lies, or at least mis-representations of the truth, where we usually base our claims on facts and proof.
You guys might have an obession of spying on your ennemy but if you claim to represent the truth by quoting things you spied on it could be totally fabricated in order to continue feeding your propaganda machine.
How does the other side counter this? By posting the orginal contents in order for EVERYONE to see this? That would be totally silly. So claiming to representing the truth actually is totally useless since illegally aquired information cannot be arguably countered by the opposite party. Yet you make us believe we can.
This also means that your claim to always representing truth can be argued since the proof you present to the public must be valued by the public. If this is not the case the presented proof becomes obsolete and we have to trust our own judgement on a group that actively uses spying on their ennemies to tell us their truth.
How is it illegal may i ask, i recall he who shall not be named saying somethign about it being illegal but was then after proof was shown from law stuff and such, totally refuted the illegal malarky. Sounds like your clutching at straws based on your own assumptions, doesn't make you right though 
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Bretonia
Gallente
Eve Defence Force
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.19 11:47:00 -
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Bob please give it a break, i will get bummed for using forums but what the hell.
Bob is a good pvp alliance and i love to pit myself against you lads (n lasses) but is ther any real need to use spy tactics n such? or this mondo attitude that you must put people down on the forums?
I have respect for Bob due to the fight well but the forums lads are making this a bit sad also with spies and such.
Why not stfu with boasting n just get with it??? Fight with honour not spies and posting crap to make someone look bad?
You have the skill ingame so why not just use it and come fight? Forums are for the weak smackers.
Respect is for the honourable.
Ie when ASCN fought G we fought hard and fast but I cannot recall spying and forum smacking of this level :)
Anyways see you out there soon chaps
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Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.19 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: fuze
You guys might have an obession of spying on your ennemy but if you claim to represent the truth by quoting things you spied on it could be totally fabricated in order to continue feeding your propaganda machine.
How does the other side counter this? By posting the orginal contents in order for EVERYONE to see this? That would be totally silly. So claiming to representing the truth actually is totally useless since illegally aquired information cannot be arguably countered by the opposite party. Yet you make us believe we can.
This also means that your claim to always representing truth can be argued since the proof you present to the public must be valued by the public. If this is not the case the presented proof becomes obsolete and we have to trust our own judgement on a group that actively uses spying on their ennemies to tell us their truth.
The old 'spying is bad' argument is getting tired. Everyone spys on everyone in EVE. Get over it.
If we report something that one of our undercover agents has learned, and it turns out not to be true, people are free to publish exactly that. However, that doesn't happen since the information our operatives report tends to be highly accurate, especially the enemys propaganda lies 
Basically, I couldn't really find heads or tails of your arguments, but it seemed to go something like 'You're BoB, so I don't trust what you say...'.
The proof that we usually present is of this type:
ASCN propaganda: 'We're winning. Our kill rates are rising!'
BoB Riposte: Statistics from BoB killboard (which is generally accepted as being very accurate) showing this is not true.
You as an outsider will not have many ways of telling whether the ASCN propaganda we quote is accurate, but since ASCN doesn't refute it, there's a good probability it is.
Also, you're not the prime target for our posting, so we don't really care about you. What we're doing is exposing to the average ASCN member how his lords and masters are lying to him and exploiting him.
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Rod Blaine
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.19 11:56:00 -
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I'm fairly sure that none of us have any lingering respect for ASCN leadership at this point.
Not after the crap they've been trying to make you believe about us. So, we'll be countering their nonsense by making it public.
It's not like we're publicising what the average ASCN member thinks or posts, because those aren't the people making up the delusional stories and trying to sell them as truth (in general, judging from what we can read). Your average ASCN member seems to be somewhat aware of what's really happening, or at least not as delusional as Cyvok and Mcreedy (and some others) are being about things.
We're not after you with these posts, we're after your so called 'leaders'. Those guys resorting to every childish accusation they can possible think of with their limited abilities in order to explain away their failure in strategising a way to deal with what is only the onset of a war against them. God knwos what they'll do once we start getting serious 
Oh, and we also think it's fun.
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Mr Abbadon
Caldari
Svea Rike
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Posted - 2006.10.19 12:02:00 -
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dosent Band of Babies get tired of beating their hairy chests?
the only one thats behaving is ASCN...
keep it clean, ppl want to know how it goes down there without BOB kindergarden jumps in and fills the thread with crap
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Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.19 12:05:00 -
[119]
Edited by: Tzrailasa on 19/10/2006 12:18:46
Originally by: Bretonia
Bob please give it a break, i will get bummed for using forums but what the hell.
Bob is a good pvp alliance and i love to pit myself against you lads (n lasses) but is ther any real need to use spy tactics n such? or this mondo attitude that you must put people down on the forums?
I have respect for Bob due to the fight well but the forums lads are making this a bit sad also with spies and such.
Why not stfu with boasting n just get with it??? Fight with honour not spies and posting crap to make someone look bad?
You have the skill ingame so why not just use it and come fight? Forums are for the weak smackers.
Respect is for the honourable.
Ie when ASCN fought G we fought hard and fast but I cannot recall spying and forum smacking of this level :)
Anyways see you out there soon chaps
Stop being so holy. Your alliance spies as well, but since the information you gain is not as incriminating as some of your leaders posts, then you're getting way less benefit from it. If it'd been the other way around, you'd have used the information in the same way too...
Fact is, your leaders lie to you! If they didn't, we'd have no advantage of posting their laughable claims, and then ripping them apart in public. Apart from that, it's damn fun to do so.
I've never heard of a BoB leader lying to his/her own members. They might not reveal everything to us, which is entirely prudent in a war situation, but they never lie!
Exposing someone who posts lies is funny, not just because they're (in this case) in an opposing alliance, but more because lying to your own members is just WRONG! BoB pilots usually have a good sense of right and wrong, and enjoy exposing people doing so.
As for us posting a lot on the forums. Well, if your guys would respawn faster, we wouldn't have the time to do so
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Bretonia
Gallente
Eve Defence Force
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.19 12:11:00 -
[120]
That is your opinion
The hole "look at me look at me" attitude is waring thin tbh, Im not holy just want to enjoy eve without Bob feeling the need to show whos got the bigger thingy.
You all make yourselves seem to be wanting to prove something all the time and that.
Anyway cu out there o/
Bret
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