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Drake Modain	Posted - 2006.10.17 18:04:00 - [1] A few generic questions for us observers: 1: How comethere's no article on 'week 2 of the war' week 1 article was fantastic...anyone know anything about this? 2: Could someone post the ASCN killboard link (bob's too for those who don't have it). You know people this IS just a game, we're all having fun, a clear organized location for people to get updates on thewar seems logical, esp considering the age of communication and media. 3: Is there a clear and concise thread/commentary/page somewhere that shows the ev ents of the war on a day to day basis...like an overview bla invaded bla, with blah, cool things like that. You know there's a war, and then there's the information war. i'm looking for non bias information there is a ton of great info otu there it's just scattered in random spam from both sides which is lame. anyone know where this info can be obtained if not the forums due to the spam? or specific threads for this type of purpose?
Fubumaki Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.17 18:11:00 - [2] YeY another BOB vs ASCN thread!! Kids just say NO! I'm just preparing my impromptu remarks.
Mr AtLanTis God's of Eve	Posted - 2006.10.17 18:28:00 - [3] /me thinks you should learn to use your eyes and brain to read the sticky here that says "Sticky: Rules & Resources" To find the link of killboard links /me also thinks you should use your eyes and brain to read all the threads here on page 1-3 about ASCN vs BOB /me thinks you should post with your corp info :p
Drake Modain	Posted - 2006.10.17 18:33:00 - [4] methinks yer an idiot I want unbias'd intel like that 'week 1 article' about the war...not 50 threads of peopel spamming each other and measuring e-peens. as far as the resource part for the links thanks.
Vathar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 18:38:00 - [5] Yeah, a relatively objective week 2 of the war would be nice. Another 20 pages thread about ASCN vs Bob would be a definitive "no! no! NO!" ___________________________________________ Originally by: Stamm Minmatar are kind of like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair firing
Notleh Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.17 18:43:00 - [6] I can sum up the current state of affairs in one sentence: Lag and multiple node crashes pwn all.
jernej Destructive Influence	Posted - 2006.10.17 18:44:00 - [7] Originally by: Drake Modain methinks yer an idiot I want unbias'd intel like that 'week 1 article' about the war...not 50 threads of peopel spamming each other and measuring e-peens. as far as the resource part for the links thanks. and i know yer an idiot http://www.eve-tribune.com/index.php?no=19&page=1
Drake Modain	Posted - 2006.10.17 18:46:00 - [8] See, was that so hard? And to think we coulda done this without all that spamming random silly hate messages etc. thanks :)
RogueWing Vanguard Frontiers Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.17 18:56:00 - [9] Basically, right now: Most fighting is taking place in/around TCAG and GQ2. BoB is using very expensive T2 fitted ships while most of ASCN seem to be in basic T1 ships. ASCN loses (on average) more ships, but ISK-wise the battles are fairly even as BoB loses more Isk per ship (because of them usually T2 fitted) than ASCN does per ship. Only in ASCN would someone consider the solution to being short an office to be "Drop another Outpost"
Afonso Henriques Minmatar Low Grade Ore The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2006.10.17 19:03:00 - [10] Originally by: RogueWing Basically, right now: Most fighting is taking place in/around TCAG and GQ2. BoB is using very expensive T2 fitted ships while most of ASCN seem to be in basic T1 ships. ASCN loses (on average) more ships, but ISK-wise the battles are fairly even as BoB loses more Isk per ship (because of them usually T2 fitted) than ASCN does per ship. rofl You clearly have been drinking too much of your leaderships koolaid. That is bs line straight out of one of the rediclious blogs.
reaTh Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 19:03:00 - [11] Originally by: RogueWing Basically, right now: Most fighting is taking place in/around TCAG and GQ2. BoB is using very expensive T2 fitted ships while most of ASCN seem to be in basic T1 ships. ASCN loses (on average) more ships, but ISK-wise the battles are fairly even as BoB loses more Isk per ship (because of them usually T2 fitted) than ASCN does per ship. Is this Cyvokk's and ascn new spin on combat losses the single corp didnt work now your comparing equipment truely a joke ______________________________________________ Current RKK Ranking: (MIN13) Janta
ponieus Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 19:08:00 - [12] Originally by: RogueWing Basically, right now: Most fighting is taking place in/around TCAG and GQ2. BoB is using very expensive T2 fitted ships while most of ASCN seem to be in basic T1 ships. ASCN loses (on average) more ships, but ISK-wise the battles are fairly even as BoB loses more Isk per ship (because of them usually T2 fitted) than ASCN does per ship. Captiols anyone? Nice way to spin it but I see just as much tech2 stuff dropping from all your bs. I guess all those tech2 425's your mega pilots are loosing are not added or the tech2 1400's.. Your math is wrong. Your alliance is loosing no matter how much of a spin you want to put on it to keep the hobbits chin up. That from what I hear is getting harder and harder to do these days. ----------------------------------------------- ok ok
Mr AtLanTis God's of Eve	Posted - 2006.10.17 19:09:00 - [13] Originally by: Drake Modain See, was that so hard? And to think we coulda done this without all that spamming random silly hate messages etc. thanks :) /me thinks you should open your eyes and actualy read, that link is posted all over here
DeathGrip Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.17 19:28:00 - [14] 1st Page in a BoB / ASCN thread that will turn into 10 pages of nothing.
Roxanna Kell BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.17 19:29:00 - [15] Week 2 is out now from the looks of it, So some of you wounder why BOB is attacking ASCN? John has made a guese, and he came up with this. Originally by: John McCreedy This will be a short and sweet post. There's something I need you all, the general populace of ASCN to understand because I'm not sure you do. The majority of BoB, their core membership, is leaving Eve. They are going to play Pirates of the Burning Sea when it's released next Spring, i.e. they have roughly six months left in Eve. Their Leadership has told Cyvok catagorically that they want to go out in a blaze of glory. That blaze of glory is nothing less than the total destruction of ASCN. This war is not about a few stations. If we pull back into our space, they won't just come in with gank squads. They don't even want our space. They want to completely destroy us as an Alliance because we're the biggest prize in Eve right now. This is a war to the death. No quarter will be given. No comprimises. No negotiation. They will do everything they can to ensure we're kicked out of our space and they leave the game known as the Alliance who killed ASCN. I'm not sure you all undestood this. Hopefully now the harsh reality of this war will finally sink in and you can and will see the importance of fighting an Offensive war. Do I want you sat at a POS for 4 hours a night? Nope. But at the same time, I can't make a push without sufficent numbers. A new plan's been hatched with new tatics, all we now need you to do is show up. The simple truth is this. If you show up, BoB will be destroyed. If you don't show up, ASCN will be destroyed. Sorry for ripping away your rose tinted view of this situation but hopefully now you understand the threat that faces us and why High Command is stressed at the situation. Quote: "Don't touch the red button!"
ponieus Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 19:33:00 - [16] Originally by: Roxanna Kell Week 2 is out now from the looks of it, So some of you wounder why BOB is attacking ASCN? John has made a guese, and he came up with this. Originally by: John McCreedy This will be a short and sweet post. There's something I need you all, the general populace of ASCN to understand because I'm not sure you do. The majority of BoB, their core membership, is leaving Eve. They are going to play Pirates of the Burning Sea when it's released next Spring, i.e. they have roughly six months left in Eve. Their Leadership has told Cyvok catagorically that they want to go out in a blaze of glory. That blaze of glory is nothing less than the total destruction of ASCN. This war is not about a few stations. If we pull back into our space, they won't just come in with gank squads. They don't even want our space. They want to completely destroy us as an Alliance because we're the biggest prize in Eve right now. This is a war to the death. No quarter will be given. No comprimises. No negotiation. They will do everything they can to ensure we're kicked out of our space and they leave the game known as the Alliance who killed ASCN. I'm not sure you all undestood this. Hopefully now the harsh reality of this war will finally sink in and you can and will see the importance of fighting an Offensive war. Do I want you sat at a POS for 4 hours a night? Nope. But at the same time, I can't make a push without sufficent numbers. A new plan's been hatched with new tatics, all we now need you to do is show up. The simple truth is this. If you show up, BoB will be destroyed. If you don't show up, ASCN will be destroyed. Sorry for ripping away your rose tinted view of this situation but hopefully now you understand the threat that faces us and why High Command is stressed at the situation. you think that a riot you should see some of the "other" stuffs in store for BoB.. ----------------------------------------------- ok ok
Hast Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 19:38:00 - [17] yes, we are all leaving the game we are bored of sitting at our 200 AU safespot Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 19:39:00 - [18] OH MY GOD! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Now that is goddamn funny. No wonder we've christened him 'Madeye' McGreedy.
TWD TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 19:40:00 - [19] I've got just one question towards ASCN members. Do you really believe all the stuff that is being posted by Cyvok/Mccreedy/Ceo pyrex?
Lord Draco Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 19:41:00 - [20] Originally by: Roxanna Kell Week 2 is out now from the looks of it, So some of you wounder why BOB is attacking ASCN? John has made a guese, and he came up with this. Originally by: John McCreedy This will be a short and sweet post. There's something I need you all, the general populace of ASCN to understand because I'm not sure you do. The majority of BoB, their core membership, is leaving Eve. They are going to play Pirates of the Burning Sea when it's released next Spring, i.e. they have roughly six months left in Eve. Their Leadership has told Cyvok catagorically that they want to go out in a blaze of glory. That blaze of glory is nothing less than the total destruction of ASCN. This war is not about a few stations. If we pull back into our space, they won't just come in with gank squads. They don't even want our space. They want to completely destroy us as an Alliance because we're the biggest prize in Eve right now. This is a war to the death. No quarter will be given. No comprimises. No negotiation. They will do everything they can to ensure we're kicked out of our space and they leave the game known as the Alliance who killed ASCN. I'm not sure you all undestood this. Hopefully now the harsh reality of this war will finally sink in and you can and will see the importance of fighting an Offensive war. Do I want you sat at a POS for 4 hours a night? Nope. But at the same time, I can't make a push without sufficent numbers. A new plan's been hatched with new tatics, all we now need you to do is show up. The simple truth is this. If you show up, BoB will be destroyed. If you don't show up, ASCN will be destroyed. Sorry for ripping away your rose tinted view of this situation but hopefully now you understand the threat that faces us and why High Command is stressed at the situation. Looks like maddog Mcgreedy strikes again. His lies keep getting better and better. I bet he is a writer for Days of Our Lives.
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 19:41:00 - [21] I can categorically state that I will not be playing that pile of **** in the burning sea and, seeing as it's just me and my alts in BoB, that means the core of BoB is staying aswell. kthx.
Tabaldak eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.17 19:42:00 - [22] ASCN and bob fight. ASCN lose ships. bob lose ships. Move on. Mmmkay.
Nira Li Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 19:43:00 - [23] First I have ADHD then D2 is better than me and then I am going to play Pirates of The Burnin Sea. ASCN sure knows alot about me You Will Cry My Name
Hast Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 19:44:00 - [24] Originally by: Nira Li First I have ADHD then D2 is better than me and then I am going to play Pirates of The Burnin Sea. ASCN sure knows alot about me its safe to assume that since you live in your moms basement, that your mom infact is in ASCN. Thats why they know so much about you Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
Nira Li Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 19:45:00 - [25] Originally by: Hast Originally by: Nira Li First I have ADHD then D2 is better than me and then I am going to play Pirates of The Burnin Sea. ASCN sure knows alot about me its safe to assume that since you live in your moms basement, that your mom infact is in ASCN. Thats why they know so much about you ahh... clever You Will Cry My Name
Roxanna Kell BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.17 19:48:00 - [26] Originally by: Nira Li Originally by: Hast Originally by: Nira Li First I have ADHD then D2 is better than me and then I am going to play Pirates of The Burnin Sea. ASCN sure knows alot about me its safe to assume that since you live in your moms basement, that your mom infact is in ASCN. Thats why they know so much about you ahh... clever that that makes him more likely to end up in Warhammer online. Quote: "Don't touch the red button!"
Hast Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 19:49:00 - [27] Originally by: Roxanna Kell Originally by: Nira Li Originally by: Hast Originally by: Nira Li First I have ADHD then D2 is better than me and then I am going to play Pirates of The Burnin Sea. ASCN sure knows alot about me its safe to assume that since you live in your moms basement, that your mom infact is in ASCN. Thats why they know so much about you ahh... clever that that makes him more likely to end up in Warhammer online. my mum wont give me the allowance to play another game Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
Nira Li Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 19:50:00 - [28] Originally by: Hast Originally by: Roxanna Kell Originally by: Nira Li Originally by: Hast Originally by: Nira Li First I have ADHD then D2 is better than me and then I am going to play Pirates of The Burnin Sea. ASCN sure knows alot about me its safe to assume that since you live in your moms basement, that your mom infact is in ASCN. Thats why they know so much about you ahh... clever that that makes him more likely to end up in Warhammer online. my mum wont give me the allowance to play another game Ha! my mom > your mom You Will Cry My Name
Roxanna Kell BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.17 19:53:00 - [29] Originally by: Nira Li Originally by: Hast Originally by: Roxanna Kell Originally by: Nira Li Originally by: Hast Originally by: Nira Li First I have ADHD then D2 is better than me and then I am going to play Pirates of The Burnin Sea. ASCN sure knows alot about me its safe to assume that since you live in your moms basement, that your mom infact is in ASCN. Thats why they know so much about you ahh... clever that that makes him more likely to end up in Warhammer online,. my mum wont give me the allowance to play another game Ha! my mom > your mom my mum bring me dinner to my desk and i dont sleep in basement. Quote: "Don't touch the red button!"
Templer Relleg Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.10.17 19:54:00 - [30] Bob leaving? Can i have year stuff please? I guess its a joke tho
Fi T'Zeh Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 19:56:00 - [31] We're all off to play Hello Kitty : Adventure Island .... Real men use blasters
Tar Ecthelion Kryomek Industries	Posted - 2006.10.17 20:03:00 - [32] and so it continues sigh ..... "When you kill a man it costs nothing to be polite" Winston Churchill
Ria Sotori Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 20:06:00 - [33] If that blog doesnt destroy what little cred the guy had with his alliance nothing in this world will :P Yarrrrrr wheres me pegleg and sword LOLERZ
Eleese Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.17 20:10:00 - [34] anyone got the link for the week 2 article? i didnt bookamrk the webby.
Rodney Caston Messerschmitt Shipyards The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2006.10.17 20:11:00 - [35] Originally by: RogueWing Basically, right now: Most fighting is taking place in/around TCAG and GQ2. BoB is using very expensive T2 fitted ships while most of ASCN seem to be in basic T1 ships. ASCN loses (on average) more ships, but ISK-wise the battles are fairly even as BoB loses more Isk per ship (because of them usually T2 fitted) than ASCN does per ship. You forget to open and close your post with the [spin] [/spin] tags.
Hardin Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2006.10.17 20:13:00 - [36] Unofficial CVA Announcement After three years bashing pirates and terrorists the CVA would like to announce that it will shortly be leaving EVE to take up arms against anti-Amarrian forces in the upcoming game Team Fortress II. Becuase this game is due out any time we have decided to go out in a blaze of glory and will therefore be self destructing all our ships in a special prayer ceremony in Amarr in a couple of weeks time. Amarr Victor! ------------------------------
ponieus Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 20:13:00 - [37] Originally by: Eleese anyone got the link for the week 2 article? i didnt bookamrk the webby. this one?? http://www.eve-tribune.com/index.php?no=19&page=1 ----------------------------------------------- ok ok
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 20:44:00 - [38] Originally by: Hardin Becuase this game is due out any time we have decided to go out in a blaze of glory and will therefore be self destructing all our ships in a special prayer ceremony in Amarr in a couple of weeks time. Will there be dancing amarr kittens involved in that ceremony ? And if so where do we book the tickets ? "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
HordeZla Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 20:47:00 - [39] Originally by: TWD I've got just one question towards ASCN members. Do you really believe all the stuff that is being posted by Cyvok/Mccreedy/Ceo pyrex? 26 bil says they do. Try again!
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 20:52:00 - [40] [spin] Originally by: RogueWing Basically, right now: Most fighting is taking place in/around TCAG and GQ2. BoB is using very expensive T2 fitted ships while most of ASCN seem to be in basic T1 ships. ASCN loses (on average) more ships, but ISK-wise the battles are fairly even as BoB loses more Isk per ship (because of them usually T2 fitted) than ASCN does per ship. [/spin] So ... actually you fly t1 ships so your other members lose t2 ? I bet they love you for beeing cheap... ps. pods can't scoop stuff
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 20:57:00 - [41] Edited by: DB Preacher on 17/10/2006 20:57:16 Edited by: DB Preacher on 17/10/2006 20:57:00 Originally by: John McCreedy The majority of BoB, their core membership, is leaving Eve. They are going to play Pirates of the Burning Sea when it's released next Spring, i.e. they have roughly six months left in Eve. Their Leadership has told Cyvok catagorically that they want to go out in a blaze of glory. I can categorically tell you.... We are not going anywhere. Poor attempt, I give it 0.3/10. Man, how much lies are the ASCN members going to listen to. This is getting pretty sad tbh. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Erin Kingsman Gallente A.W.M	Posted - 2006.10.17 21:10:00 - [42] BTW where are these blogs posted?
Hast Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 21:11:00 - [43] Originally by: Erin Kingsman BTW where are these blogs posted? on the internal ASCN forums, and now on ours Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
RogueWing Vanguard Frontiers Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.17 21:25:00 - [44] Originally by: LUKEC So ... actually you fly t1 ships so your other members lose t2 ? I bet they love you for beeing cheap... ps. pods can't scoop stuff No. I fly Dictor's. My gangmates LOVE me for training 3 months for it. :p Only in ASCN would someone consider the solution to being short an office to be "Drop another Outpost"
ZelRox Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 21:25:00 - [45] Originally by: Hast Originally by: Erin Kingsman BTW where are these blogs posted? on the internal ASCN forums, and now on ours Damn spies ---------------------- BiH 4tw
ZelRox Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 21:32:00 - [46] Originally by: RogueWing No. I fly Dictor's. My gangmates LOVE me for training 3 months for it. :p Get some implants man ---------------------- BiH 4tw
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 21:38:00 - [47] Unfortunately our headshot macro will not be PoBS compatible until at least Q3 2007. Sorry if the delay in our depature from Eve inconveniences ASCN's war plans. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Eutectic Caldari VentureCorp CORE.	Posted - 2006.10.17 21:41:00 - [48] Originally by: RogueWing Basically, right now: Most fighting is taking place in/around TCAG and GQ2. BoB is using very expensive T2 fitted ships while most of ASCN seem to be in basic T1 ships. ASCN loses (on average) more ships, but ISK-wise the battles are fairly even as BoB loses more Isk per ship (because of them usually T2 fitted) than ASCN does per ship. Wow, were you in the NSA by any chance? Reminds me of the drivel that they used to try to tell us way back when.
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 21:48:00 - [49] Originally by: RogueWing Originally by: LUKEC So ... actually you fly t1 ships so your other members lose t2 ? I bet they love you for beeing cheap... ps. pods can't scoop stuff No. I fly Dictor's. My gangmates LOVE me for training 3 months for it. :p I bet they LOVE you. You singlehandedly managed to bubble entire BoB support on monday night. Tiny detail you missed is that you bubbled entire ASCN bs group, scrambling them for us so we had leasure killing. Your support just died/left bs pilots to die.
DeathGrip Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.17 21:55:00 - [50] Originally by: LUKEC Originally by: RogueWing Originally by: LUKEC So ... actually you fly t1 ships so your other members lose t2 ? I bet they love you for beeing cheap... ps. pods can't scoop stuff No. I fly Dictor's. My gangmates LOVE me for training 3 months for it. :p I bet they LOVE you. You singlehandedly managed to bubble entire BoB support on monday night. Tiny detail you missed is that you bubbled entire ASCN bs group, scrambling them for us so we had leasure killing. Your support just died/left bs pilots to die. I won a battle once 2.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 22:00:00 - [51] Yeah Lukec, that's not fair. It's not the dictor pilot to blame for the support running off is it ? Now, back to being serious: This blog, as well as the mccreedy response and the follow-up on different ASCN corp forums, is absolutely Lollerz. Altho I must say that the reasons the latter make me smile are quite different Old blog
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 22:04:00 - [52] Originally by: LUKEC I bet they LOVE you. You singlehandedly managed to bubble entire BoB support on monday night. Tiny detail you missed is that you bubbled entire ASCN bs group, scrambling them for us so we had leasure killing. Your support just died/left bs pilots to die. Accoring to ASCN mini Blogs we must have paid him isk or minerals to do that coz we are very desperate to win this war "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
God's Army Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.10.17 22:07:00 - [53] stop that sh!t .. bob vs acsn .. too many threads .. jesus christ ---- R0ADKILL ALLIANCE Killboard
jernej Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 22:11:00 - [54] Originally by: God's Army stop that sh!t .. bob vs acsn .. too many threads .. jesus christ It's like a mexican soap opera, I'm hooked How can I pwn if my guns wont activate ???
DeathGrip Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.17 22:18:00 - [55] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: LUKEC I bet they LOVE you. You singlehandedly managed to bubble entire BoB support on monday night. Tiny detail you missed is that you bubbled entire ASCN bs group, scrambling them for us so we had leasure killing. Your support just died/left bs pilots to die. Accoring to ASCN mini Blogs we must have paid him isk or minerals to do that coz we are very desperate to win this war I think its more you are expected to win this war, and as of right now you have lots of kills nothing more. Maybe that was your intent, I dont know. I do know you have a lot more to lose than ASCN. They dont have the power house rep you guys do. IMO.
DoctorGonzo Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 22:18:00 - [56] John McCreedy and CYVOC's blog's to the ASCN members have to be some of the best EvE material to date. They make the lies that the PA leadership told their members look positively tame. It's like the difference between a man's lie - "Honey, I was at John's house" compared to a womanÆs lie - "It's your f*cking baby". I have a question to the ASCN rank and file, although I know you won't reply as you're being censored and not allowed to post, much like the PA membership was. Anyway, do you actually believe the stuff in your leaderÆs blogÆs, like really believe it? Do you believe we're about to change games and that's why we're going after ASCN? Do you believe our morale is being dented or in CYVOC's words 'BoB getting desperate'? Do you believe Madeye McCreedy's adding up of killboard stats? Do you believe we fake killmails? Do you believe we deliberately try to make the nodes crash? Okay that was more than one question, but the under lying theme is the same in each one. Food for thought to the average ASCN member I think.
Astasia Orian Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 22:23:00 - [57] How many times is this "you fit T2 so we win on ISK" rubbish going to come up? For a supposed industrial powerhouse you should be utterly ashamed of the stuff we're seeing on BS killmails. T1 guns not even named editions, and yet you expect to win? That stuff is for people who know they are cannon fodder. For shame sirs.
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 22:23:00 - [58] Originally by: DeathGrip I think its more you are expected to win this war, and as of right now you have lots of kills nothing more. Maybe that was your intent, I dont know. I do know you have a lot more to lose than ASCN. They dont have the power house rep you guys do. IMO. We have more than just a rep and a bunch of kills But according to what ppl think these days ASCN D2 BOB are the top 3 alliances and are equal to each other , not that i agree with it but those are the candidates for the power house rep. PS:No one cares about Vodka loltera , hihi j/k "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
Christopher Multsanti Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.10.17 22:33:00 - [59] Originally by: Fi T'Zeh We're all off to play Hello Kitty : Adventure Island I am socialising artard, I'm logged on to a MMORPG with people from all over the world and getting XP with my party using Teamspeak. [ER Public Relations Officer] [Is main activated, check, Post!]
Hast Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 22:33:00 - [60] Originally by: DeathGrip Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: LUKEC I bet they LOVE you. You singlehandedly managed to bubble entire BoB support on monday night. Tiny detail you missed is that you bubbled entire ASCN bs group, scrambling them for us so we had leasure killing. Your support just died/left bs pilots to die. Accoring to ASCN mini Blogs we must have paid him isk or minerals to do that coz we are very desperate to win this war I think its more you are expected to win this war, and as of right now you have lots of kills nothing more. Maybe that was your intent, I dont know. I do know you have a lot more to lose than ASCN. They dont have the power house rep you guys do. IMO. here is what you fail to realize... we are not here for the destination, we are here for the scenery on the way... We didnt think that we could manage to steamroll you in fifteen minutes, so if you think that then your sadly mistaken. And no, we are not going away anytime soon. This has barely started and you keep churning that if we were successful, we should have defeated you a week ago... It just doesent work that way... and no crying is ever gonna change that... P.S. gg on gagging your members, makes me kinda glad that alt posts are banned on this forum Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
Hast Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 22:34:00 - [61] Originally by: Christopher Multsanti Originally by: Fi T'Zeh We're all off to play Hello Kitty : Adventure Island I am socialising artard, I'm logged on to a MMORPG with people from all over the world and getting XP with my party using Teamspeak. ...I'm not a artard... Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
Cmd Woodlouse Solidline Enterprise Kith of Venal	Posted - 2006.10.17 22:49:00 - [62] OMG NO NOT ANOTHER THREAD ABOUT THIS!!!! -------------------------------- Spain ftw!
ponieus Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 22:50:00 - [63] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse OMG NO NOT ANOTHER THREAD ABOUT THIS!!!! agreed but what you gonna do BoB is on a war path forums follow for some reason.. But DG had a very nice post to ASCN members.. ----------------------------------------------- ok ok
Cmd Woodlouse Solidline Enterprise Kith of Venal	Posted - 2006.10.17 23:00:00 - [64] Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 17/10/2006 20:57:23 Originally by: John McCreedy The majority of BoB, their core membership, is leaving Eve. They are going to play Pirates of the Burning Sea when it's released next Spring, i.e. they have roughly six months left in Eve. Their Leadership has told Cyvok catagorically that they want to go out in a blaze of glory. I can categorically tell you.... We are not going anywhere. Poor attempt, I give it 0.3/10. Man, how much lies are the ASCN members going to listen to. This is getting pretty sad tbh. dbp well, infact ascn leadership did exactly the same when G attacked em. unbelieveable lies like G hacking nodes, ma¦cromining, using lag-exploits, blablabla thats why i never respected cyvok and the like. while it may help demonizing the enemy to keep up hobbitses morale its quite a ridiculous way to do in my eyes. Winning battles by actually teling pilots to use consentual fittings eg. and telling them basic tactics has far more effect. -------------------------------- Spain ftw!
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 23:00:00 - [65] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse OMG NO NOT ANOTHER THREAD ABOUT THIS!!!! I'd be very interested to know how many BoB pilots complained about the ascn vs g threads at that time, you know, it might make quite interesting reading.
BlackRain Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 23:13:00 - [66] Edited by: BlackRain on 17/10/2006 23:14:12 Edited by: BlackRain on 17/10/2006 23:13:11 Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse while it may help demonizing the enemy to keep up hobbitses morale its quite a ridiculous way to do in my eyes. Winning battles by actually teling pilots to use consentual fittings eg. and telling them basic tactics has far more effect. Dashing Dynamic Duo It might in some weird way boost their morale, but it sure is not demoralizing us. We are having a lot of fun reading all these cool and carefully crafted messages of wisdom. ------------------- Sig is not eve related - please see the RULES - Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc ([email protected]) -
Eutectic Caldari VentureCorp CORE.	Posted - 2006.10.17 23:15:00 - [67] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 17/10/2006 20:57:23 Originally by: John McCreedy The majority of BoB, their core membership, is leaving Eve. They are going to play Pirates of the Burning Sea when it's released next Spring, i.e. they have roughly six months left in Eve. Their Leadership has told Cyvok catagorically that they want to go out in a blaze of glory. I can categorically tell you.... We are not going anywhere. Poor attempt, I give it 0.3/10. Man, how much lies are the ASCN members going to listen to. This is getting pretty sad tbh. dbp well, infact ascn leadership did exactly the same when G attacked em. unbelieveable lies like G hacking nodes, ma¦cromining, using lag-exploits, blablabla thats why i never respected cyvok and the like. while it may help demonizing the enemy to keep up hobbitses morale its quite a ridiculous way to do in my eyes. Winning battles by actually teling pilots to use consentual fittings eg. and telling them basic tactics has far more effect. Biggest lie was the one about the fleet they formed was not meant to be threatening to G/IRON in South, while at same time posting on internal boards get ready to attack G/IRON.
Nero Winger Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 23:16:00 - [68] As I see ASCN not responding to any topics anymore on e-o forums I believe their ceos banned them the eve-o forums access. Therefore itÆs quite senseless in talking anything about this war atm. as the most people do only flaim against one of the two sides which results in many nerved people in eve and wasted time in reading any posts. my 2 coins and my last waisted time
thoth foc Destructive Influence	Posted - 2006.10.17 23:24:00 - [69] Originally by: Nero Winger As I see ASCN not responding to any topics anymore on e-o forums I believe their ceos banned them the eve-o forums access. that's fine if they respond on the ascn forums we can reply here >: )
Roxanna Kell BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2006.10.17 23:29:00 - [70] Originally by: Muad al'Haqim Thanks to that blog, I dropped a glass of cold beer in my lap. What a mess ... but what a laugh. you are welcome, i wounder what he will say next? Quote: "Don't touch the red button!"
Sir JoJo Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 23:55:00 - [71] Edited by: Sir JoJo on 17/10/2006 23:55:19 Originally by: Roxanna Kell Originally by: Muad al'Haqim Thanks to that blog, I dropped a glass of cold beer in my lap. What a mess ... but what a laugh. you are welcome, i wounder what he will say next? so are we its very amusing :) its a disgrace for Minmatar
Rikeka Amarr Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.18 00:17:00 - [72] Since the OP question was answered and the BoB`s will NOT leave to play POTBS, I guess this thread has outlived it¦s purpose. Moderators? ------------------------------------ Have a sig you can sell me? Eve-mail me your work and we`ll talk business! ------------------------------------
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.18 00:31:00 - [73] Originally by: Rikeka Since the OP question was answered and the BoB`s will NOT leave to play POTBS, I guess this thread has outlived it¦s purpose. Moderators? We're still having fun in this thread, go away
Audrea Momentum.	Posted - 2006.10.18 00:34:00 - [74] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Rikeka Since the OP question was answered and the BoB`s will NOT leave to play POTBS, I guess this thread has outlived it¦s purpose. Moderators? We're still having fun in this thread, go away Yup, leave it unlocked for the next 'blogz' ------------------ yay, the Deimos has been saved!
Roxanna Kell BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2006.10.18 00:36:00 - [75] Originally by: Rikeka Since the OP question was answered and the BoB`s will NOT leave to play POTBS, I guess this thread has outlived it¦s purpose. Moderators? Most of the time threads aren't this fun. do you really have to spoil them? part of fun is not to be too serious about politics, its just an old spoiled posh brat's game. Quote: "Don't touch the red button!"
Galavet Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.18 00:48:00 - [76] Originally by: Roxanna Kell I love this new SIG, classic. Yup I tend to agree Current RKK Ranking: (MIN100) CEO
Lan'Fear Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2006.10.18 00:50:00 - [77] News of the day: Ascn POS died in tcag!
Shadow Mancer The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.18 00:59:00 - [78] Originally by: God's Army stop that sh!t .. bob vs acsn .. too many threads .. jesus christ hahaha /me slaps God's Army back to TDE4's thread.
Phrixus Zephyr Yesodic Nomads Corp Triumvirate.	Posted - 2006.10.18 01:17:00 - [79] Edited by: Phrixus Zephyr on 18/10/2006 01:18:06 Do ASCN not align or something? I dont understand.
Erin Kingsman Gallente A.W.M	Posted - 2006.10.18 01:56:00 - [80] this is nothing compared to the pure unadulterated forum spammage that was the GNW. AHH the good ole days :)
Snort Bilger Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.18 02:06:00 - [81] So BoB is leaving Eve for Pirates of the Burning Sea? Can i have your st...oh wait. WTB: 200AU safe
Hectic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.18 02:07:00 - [82] Originally by: Snort Bilger So BoB is leaving Eve for Pirates of the Burning Sea? Can i have your st...oh wait. I cant wait to get my first YARR ship! Regma's Emo Confession! WELCOME BACK MGRL
Gothikia Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.18 02:40:00 - [83] Originally by: RogueWing Basically, right now: Most fighting is taking place in/around TCAG and GQ2. BoB is using very expensive T2 fitted ships while most of ASCN seem to be in basic T1 ships. ASCN loses (on average) more ships, but ISK-wise the battles are fairly even as BoB loses more Isk per ship (because of them usually T2 fitted) than ASCN does per ship. hhahahahahahahahahaaha. Just, hahahahahahaha. For so many reasons. Yes your noobs using all Tech I. Yes, you die alot. No, we dont loose more ISK per ship.... wanna know why? We dont have tight arsed leaders grabbing every single ISK they can get from our members. We dont have to pay "market price" or "empire average" for our stuff. A BoB tech II fitted battleship costs LESS to fit that your puney little Tech 1 battleship. Therefore I laugh in your face again. hahahahahahaahah. Originally by: DeathGrip I won a battle once 2. Really? Shooting angels in complexes dont count DG... Sure it wasn't one of the fleets I was leading, cos i didn't suicide ♥ -------------- Gothi
Taedrin Gallente Mercatoris Technologies	Posted - 2006.10.18 03:26:00 - [84] sigh it seems to me that ASCN is going to lose this war... From what I can see, ASCN has lost hundreds of Battleships, while BoB has yet to lose 50. ASCN has lost Capital ships, while BoB has lost none. BoB is considered by many to be the largest and best PvP alliance in the game. ASCN is largely industrial and has little PvP expertise. I mean, it seems that ASCN has as much chance at winning as a three year old has at beating Sun Tzu at a game of Risk! And like Risk, the only reason why ASCN seems to be alive is because it takes so long for the victor to finally crush the last of the opposition. BoB has a well trained army ASCN has a disorganized mob BoB has a fleet of T2 fitted Battleships ASCN has a Titan whose doomsday device can't even kill a properly tanked BS BoB can cause 55 times more damage to ASCN than ASCN can to BoB. ASCN can throw hundreds of Battleships to their death, while causing minimal damage to BoB It seems that this so called "War" was over before it even began. Which makes me sad, because I really wanted to believe that it was possible for an alliance to survive in 0.0 without focusing primarily in PvP. Alas, it seems that PvP must be the primary interest of an alliance in order to thrive in 0.0. And because I am not only horrible at PvP, but will also never be able to compete with older players with more than twice my 7 million sps, this means that I am forever barred from 0.0 C'est la vie...
DeathGrip Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.18 03:26:00 - [85] Originally by: Gothikia [ Originally by: DeathGrip I won a battle once 2. Really? Shooting angels in complexes dont count DG... Sure it wasn't one of the fleets I was leading, cos i didn't suicide ♥ Hey, somtimes when you are outnumberd, and outgunned you attack anyway. Call it stupid, call it suicide. I call it fun.
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.18 03:51:00 - [86] I'm not a fan of bob (except for hast ofc) but man do those blogs are a hoot to read so i hope you keep publishing them In rust we trust!!!
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.18 03:57:00 - [87] Originally by: Taedrin It seems that this so called "War" was over before it even began. Which makes me sad, because I really wanted to believe that it was possible for an alliance to survive in 0.0 without focusing primarily in PvP. Alas, it seems that PvP must be the primary interest of an alliance in order to thrive in 0.0. And because I am not only horrible at PvP, but will also never be able to compete with older players with more than twice my 7 million sps, this means that I am forever barred from 0.0 C'est la vie... Without force there will be no peace m8 since even the LAW has to have a force to protect it or else it aint worth the paper its written on. As for your statement about PVP and sp and u cant enter 0.0 , i dissagree with u there . I used to think the same was as u do now but u need to realise that EVE unlike any other game sps dont mean ** in comparison to skill at using the sps and ur setups and dicipline and above all ur hard earned experience in combat . You can easily start off with some pvp experienced players and start with the most basic of ships and setups and progress as the way it fits ur play style in combat , it aint that gloom as u see it "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"**
Shrike Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.18 04:30:00 - [88] On popular demand ONOES! Goatthrowing vikingships anyone?
Irimi Nage Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.18 04:41:00 - [89] Hummm, I do have a question for our leadership. If the sea we are pirating on is on fire, are our ships to be made out of asbestos? This question troubles me :( ---
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.18 04:50:00 - [90] I get nightmares when i dream about what happens to little boys when they get caught on pirate ships , they do stuff to them "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
LadyScarlet Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.18 05:02:00 - [91] i bought stock in black leather boots
ProphetGuru Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.18 05:22:00 - [92] I think McRediculous read an old Evol post and got confused. We Smell the sea.... We don't play on it. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
franny Phoenix Knights	Posted - 2006.10.18 05:39:00 - [93] does ANYONE actually believe the blogs? i'm pretty sure my 7 yr old could tell they are bull.... anyway keep em up ASCN, they are funny I just have to remember to not read em at work, it's hard to not **** myself laughing
King Leonidas Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.18 07:31:00 - [94] Edited by: King Leonidas on 18/10/2006 07:31:38 Originally by: ProphetGuru I think McRediculous read an old Evol post and got confused. We Smell the sea.... We don't play on it. I dunno thrak is always down the shore smelling seamen and he definitely plays with them. King
Erin Kingsman Gallente A.W.M	Posted - 2006.10.18 07:50:00 - [95] Quote: Which makes me sad, because I really wanted to believe that it was possible for an alliance to survive in 0.0 without focusing primarily in PvP. Alas, it seems that PvP must be the primary interest of an alliance in order to thrive in 0.0. "Only warriors choose peace." - some guy whose name I forgot
Ab Initio Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.18 07:55:00 - [96] Originally by: Taedrin It seems that this so called "War" was over before it even began. Which makes me sad, because I really wanted to believe that it was possible for an alliance to survive in 0.0 without focusing primarily in PvP. Alas, it seems that PvP must be the primary interest of an alliance in order to thrive in 0.0. And because I am not only horrible at PvP, but will also never be able to compete with older players with more than twice my 7 million sps, this means that I am forever barred from 0.0 C'est la vie... A couple of points that might be of value to you here. 1. PVP is a big part of the game, but it's the most balanced entity that wins, not the best warriors. Speaking as an EVOL member, there is no real industrialist / pvper split. We all get our hands dirty. Those of us who do choose the indy over the intie aren't treated any differently :P 2. With your amount of SP, you could happily fit into any group out there and play a useful role. Personally, I use a seperate low SP character for frig PVP, because he's completely specialised to the task. You don't need 40mill SP to play in 0.0.
Nero Winger Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.18 08:55:00 - [97] Originally by: Taedrin It seems that this so called "War" was over before it even began. Which makes me sad, because I really wanted to believe that it was possible for an alliance to survive in 0.0 without focusing primarily in PvP. Alas, it seems that PvP must be the primary interest of an alliance in order to thrive in 0.0. And because I am not only horrible at PvP, but will also never be able to compete with older players with more than twice my 7 million sps, this means that I am forever barred from 0.0 C'est la vie... pvp is not everything, industrials are needet to and while they are respected from their corpmembers they can earn a huge amount of money on the way helpind their corp/alliance. there is bob again a good example, as i know there are some corps in bobspace living in bobspace and are protected from bob who are only industrials and do not have any pvp wings.
Roxanna Kell BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2006.10.18 08:58:00 - [98] PVP first. Industry second. if you do it the other way around, you will end up like them Quote: "Don't touch the red button!"
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.18 09:02:00 - [99] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 18/10/2006 09:02:26 Originally by: Roxanna Kell PVP first. Industry second. if you do it the other way around, you will end up like them No, there is no second. Old blog
Lord Draco Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.18 09:12:00 - [100] Originally by: Taedrin And because I am not only horrible at PvP, but will also never be able to compete with older players with more than twice my 7 million sps, this means that I am forever barred from 0.0 C'est la vie... Not true If you can fly an interceptor you are more valuable than a pooly fit battleship (look at the geddon that had 1200's fit and stabs fit). Also, its the fact that ascn has dwindling numbers. I've seen their memebrs leave others to die when they could have turned the tide more often than I want to count. One thing about bob members is we know we can count on every person in our gang.
franny Phoenix Knights	Posted - 2006.10.18 09:44:00 - [101] Originally by: Taedrin It seems that this so called "War" was over before it even began. Which makes me sad, because I really wanted to believe that it was possible for an alliance to survive in 0.0 without focusing primarily in PvP. Alas, it seems that PvP must be the primary interest of an alliance in order to thrive in 0.0. And because I am not only horrible at PvP, but will also never be able to compete with older players with more than twice my 7 million sps, this means that I am forever barred from 0.0 /minor thread-jack on it's attitude, not skillpoints that makes 0.0 my alt(granted alt), was 1 day old and had her 1st pvp death in syndicate(to a HUGE ASS Fleet) TCC was a largely industrial alliance, with a core group of PVPers, we held on in a war vs BRS for 8? mths or so(in Syndicate, low sec Solitude, and Core empire)... at which point, we lost about half our core pvpers due to internal conflicts and Juba leaving if you have the attitude dieing is fun, that it's just a game, and all that, you can survive in 0.0 (it helps being blue to BoB, but thats another issue makes sure rent is paid) also in that war, one of our (industrial iirc) pilots, had a friggy alt, she racked up more kills solo and grouped than half the BS pilots there is ALWAYS a need for the little guy, and not just as cannon fodder... ceptors/frig tacklers, anti frig/ceptor support ships, etc hell with all the stababond pilots around, a dictor pilot is like a gift from god these days
Ian Novarider Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.18 12:58:00 - [102] Week 3 : BoB still talking to themselves on EVE-O forums for the third week straight. Have fun - we do Ian Quote: Know thy enemy and know thyself and thou will be victorious in all thy battles.
Jackson Day Jacksons Shop	Posted - 2006.10.18 12:59:00 - [103] As every BoB vs ASCN thread is made up of 50 BoB members saying the same thing... which is basically that the ASCN leadship is lying. Would anyone in ASCN be stupid enough to believe that their enemies are helping them ? Of course BoB are going to say these things, they want ASCN members to leave ASCN and not trust their own leaders. From a neutral point of view, the more BoB chest beat, the more I beleive they are not doing as well as they thought they would.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.18 13:04:00 - [104] Originally by: Jackson Day As every BoB vs ASCN thread is made up of 50 BoB members saying the same thing... which is basically that the ASCN leadship is lying. Would anyone in ASCN be stupid enough to believe that their enemies are helping them ? Of course BoB are going to say these things, they want ASCN members to leave ASCN and not trust their own leaders. From a neutral point of view, the more BoB chest beat, the more I beleive they are not doing as well as they thought they would. How dare you. BoB speak nothing but the truth on these forums. Anyone who claims otherwise loses at EVE, and thats a fact
ponieus Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.18 13:24:00 - [105] Originally by: Jackson Day As every BoB vs ASCN thread is made up of 50 BoB members saying the same thing... which is basically that the ASCN leadship is lying. Would anyone in ASCN be stupid enough to believe that their enemies are helping them ? Of course BoB are going to say these things, they want ASCN members to leave ASCN and not trust their own leaders. From a neutral point of view, the more BoB chest beat, the more I beleive they are not doing as well as they thought they would. and the more i read stuff like this makes me want to continue on our path of killing ASCN.. CLueless FTW> ----------------------------------------------- ok ok
Zagum Darkfin Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.18 14:15:00 - [106] Ohhh noooesss, we are loosing badly we have to post 100 times abuut the same topic!!!! There is not a day goes by when we don't wait with anticipation for the next post from the ASCN leadership and learn how badly we are doing. We find out soo much information about ourselves from ASCN, we would be lost without them!!! OOps , darn another ASCN freighter went POP. BOB is just not doing much in this war. Man the Sails men!! Thar be gold for plunderin'!!!
Buxaroo Black Dwarf Caldari Deep Space Industral	Posted - 2006.10.18 14:26:00 - [107] Originally by: Ab Initio Originally by: Taedrin It seems that this so called "War" was over before it even began. Which makes me sad, because I really wanted to believe that it was possible for an alliance to survive in 0.0 without focusing primarily in PvP. Alas, it seems that PvP must be the primary interest of an alliance in order to thrive in 0.0. And because I am not only horrible at PvP, but will also never be able to compete with older players with more than twice my 7 million sps, this means that I am forever barred from 0.0 C'est la vie... A couple of points that might be of value to you here. 1. PVP is a big part of the game, but it's the most balanced entity that wins, not the best warriors. Speaking as an EVOL member, there is no real industrialist / pvper split. We all get our hands dirty. Those of us who do choose the indy over the intie aren't treated any differently :P 2. With your amount of SP, you could happily fit into any group out there and play a useful role. Personally, I use a seperate low SP character for frig PVP, because he's completely specialised to the task. You don't need 40mill SP to play in 0.0. Dude you are so wrong. Beleive me, your SP do not = you. SP just means you get better toys to play with. It's all about tactics and knowledge of the game. Take for instance a fellow corp/alliance mate. He just killed a guy in a cerberus.....with his thorax with the help of a blackbird. The HAC pilot was 2 years old. The 2 corp/alliance guys were 1 year old each. Both his thorax and the BB left the scene and the cerb pilot left via cloning facility. It's all about balls and tactics and using them effectively. I have been playing this game for less than a year. I just broke the 12 million SP barrier. But did I wait until today to go to 0.0 and do my thing? Hell no. I have been in 0.0 sense my first week of being a pod pilot. I have been killed a lot, but I have killed far more than I have been killed. The thing you need to get rid of in your mind is the idea of loosing ships/mods/pods. It's all part of the learning process. Never get angry you lost a ship, never get worked up that you just lost that prescious faction mod you ratted for hours to get. It's all part of the game. I love this game to death. I take it seriously in a lot of ways. But I don't take it seriously in the incorrect way like a lot of empire dwellers do. I don't worry about my faction fitted ship or my tech 2 fitted ship when I go into combat. People in empire worry about their prescious things like that. That is what holds you back. I don't know how many times I have lsot my ship and was laughing about it when it happened or afterwards. Not that I like to loose ships, but I ain't afraid of loosing a fight. Everyone looses once in awhile. Don't be afraid of loosing. It's what sets you back in everything you will do.
getoverhere Minmatar Nightstalkers	Posted - 2006.10.18 15:24:00 - [108] Edited by: getoverhere on 18/10/2006 15:24:43 Originally by: Drake Modain A few generic questions for us observers: 2: Could someone post the ASCN killboard link (bob's too for those who don't have it). You know people this IS just a game, we're all having fun, a clear organized location for people to get updates on thewar seems logical, esp considering the age of communication and media. You won't get anything constructive on that, as they like to conveniently forget to post alot of loss mails
Gothikia Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.18 15:44:00 - [109] Originally by: Shrike On popular demand ONOES! Goatthrowing vikingships anyone? Hehe, gotta love it. Originally by: Ian Novarider Week 3 : BoB still talking to themselves on EVE-O forums for the third week straight. Have fun - we do Ian You see, the reason we're on forums alot, is cos you guys hardly ever show up, then when you do, you die too damned fast. So we gotta entertain ourselfs in some form or another... -------------- Gothi
Zooish	Posted - 2006.10.18 15:47:00 - [110] BoB are boring "full stop" Another thread of BoB, BoB, BoB, are you really that insecure you have to have your entire player base posting on every single message to simply try and make your points falsely seem more valid and worth while ..... Please leave Eve and let everyone else have fun and a lag free experience ...
Dark Matter Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.18 15:57:00 - [111] Originally by: Ian Novarider Week 3 : BoB still talking to themselves on EVE-O forums for the third week straight. Have fun - we do Ian But Ian as you well know you talk to us on the ASCN forums, we just reply here.
Tzrailasa Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.18 16:02:00 - [112] Edited by: Tzrailasa on 18/10/2006 16:02:21 Originally by: Jackson Day As every BoB vs ASCN thread is made up of 50 BoB members saying the same thing... which is basically that the ASCN leadship is lying. Actually, this is not a fair statement of fact. Whenever one of the ASCN leaders comes out with one of their blogs/summaries/etc., what we do is that we rip their statements apart in public, and expose USUALLY WITH PROOF that the ASCN leaders are lying through their teeth to their members. A lot of people will then jump on us and say that we're lying about it, but contrary to us, they never provide proof. Why, pretty simple. The large majority of drivel from the ASCN leaders ARE lies, or at least mis-representations of the truth, where we usually base our claims on facts and proof. My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance.
RUNYOUFOOLS Caldari eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.18 18:26:00 - [113] Edited by: RUNYOUFOOLS on 18/10/2006 18:27:39 Originally by: DoctorGonzo John McCreedy and CYVOC's blog's to the ASCN members have to be some of the best EvE material to date. They make the lies that the PA leadership told their members look positively tame. It's like the difference between a man's lie - "Honey, I was at John's house" compared to a womanÆs lie - "It's your f*cking baby". I have a question to the ASCN rank and file, although I know you won't reply as you're being censored and not allowed to post, much like the PA membership was. Anyway, do you actually believe the stuff in your leaderÆs blogÆs, like really believe it? Do you believe we're about to change games and that's why we're going after ASCN? Do you believe our morale is being dented or in CYVOC's words 'BoB getting desperate'? Do you believe Madeye McCreedy's adding up of killboard stats? Do you believe we fake killmails? Do you believe we deliberately try to make the nodes crash? Okay that was more than one question, but the under lying theme is the same in each one. Food for thought to the average ASCN member I think. Think i'll get my wrists slapped for this but mehh. its a fair question so here it is. Nope However do I think im on the wrong side and cant win this war Nope heres a lesson to you spineless wimps that snipe from the cheap seats with alts.. post with your main. edit for typos Well do you love eggs?
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.19 11:21:00 - [114] Originally by: fuze Originally by: Tzrailasa The large majority of drivel from the ASCN leaders ARE lies, or at least mis-representations of the truth, where we usually base our claims on facts and proof. You guys might have an obession of spying on your ennemy but if you claim to represent the truth by quoting things you spied on it could be totally fabricated in order to continue feeding your propaganda machine. How does the other side counter this? By posting the orginal contents in order for EVERYONE to see this? That would be totally silly. So claiming to representing the truth actually is totally useless since illegally aquired information cannot be arguably countered by the opposite party. Yet you make us believe we can. This also means that your claim to always representing truth can be argued since the proof you present to the public must be valued by the public. If this is not the case the presented proof becomes obsolete and we have to trust our own judgement on a group that actively uses spying on their ennemies to tell us their truth. How is it illegal may i ask, i recall he who shall not be named saying somethign about it being illegal but was then after proof was shown from law stuff and such, totally refuted the illegal malarky. Sounds like your clutching at straws based on your own assumptions, doesn't make you right though Iron and G eat babie's, my views are my own and do not reflect my corp or my alliance
Bretonia Gallente Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.19 11:47:00 - [115] Bob please give it a break, i will get bummed for using forums but what the hell. Bob is a good pvp alliance and i love to pit myself against you lads (n lasses) but is ther any real need to use spy tactics n such? or this mondo attitude that you must put people down on the forums? I have respect for Bob due to the fight well but the forums lads are making this a bit sad also with spies and such. Why not stfu with boasting n just get with it??? Fight with honour not spies and posting crap to make someone look bad? You have the skill ingame so why not just use it and come fight? Forums are for the weak smackers. Respect is for the honourable. Ie when ASCN fought G we fought hard and fast but I cannot recall spying and forum smacking of this level :) Anyways see you out there soon chaps ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------ [i]"I don't want to achieve i
Tzrailasa Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.19 11:53:00 - [116] Originally by: fuze You guys might have an obession of spying on your ennemy but if you claim to represent the truth by quoting things you spied on it could be totally fabricated in order to continue feeding your propaganda machine. How does the other side counter this? By posting the orginal contents in order for EVERYONE to see this? That would be totally silly. So claiming to representing the truth actually is totally useless since illegally aquired information cannot be arguably countered by the opposite party. Yet you make us believe we can. This also means that your claim to always representing truth can be argued since the proof you present to the public must be valued by the public. If this is not the case the presented proof becomes obsolete and we have to trust our own judgement on a group that actively uses spying on their ennemies to tell us their truth. The old 'spying is bad' argument is getting tired. Everyone spys on everyone in EVE. Get over it. If we report something that one of our undercover agents has learned, and it turns out not to be true, people are free to publish exactly that. However, that doesn't happen since the information our operatives report tends to be highly accurate, especially the enemys propaganda lies Basically, I couldn't really find heads or tails of your arguments, but it seemed to go something like 'You're BoB, so I don't trust what you say...'. The proof that we usually present is of this type: ASCN propaganda: 'We're winning. Our kill rates are rising!' BoB Riposte: Statistics from BoB killboard (which is generally accepted as being very accurate) showing this is not true. You as an outsider will not have many ways of telling whether the ASCN propaganda we quote is accurate, but since ASCN doesn't refute it, there's a good probability it is. Also, you're not the prime target for our posting, so we don't really care about you. What we're doing is exposing to the average ASCN member how his lords and masters are lying to him and exploiting him. My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.19 11:56:00 - [117] I'm fairly sure that none of us have any lingering respect for ASCN leadership at this point. Not after the crap they've been trying to make you believe about us. So, we'll be countering their nonsense by making it public. It's not like we're publicising what the average ASCN member thinks or posts, because those aren't the people making up the delusional stories and trying to sell them as truth (in general, judging from what we can read). Your average ASCN member seems to be somewhat aware of what's really happening, or at least not as delusional as Cyvok and Mcreedy (and some others) are being about things. We're not after you with these posts, we're after your so called 'leaders'. Those guys resorting to every childish accusation they can possible think of with their limited abilities in order to explain away their failure in strategising a way to deal with what is only the onset of a war against them. God knwos what they'll do once we start getting serious Oh, and we also think it's fun. Old blog
Mr Abbadon Caldari Svea Rike	Posted - 2006.10.19 12:02:00 - [118] dosent Band of Babies get tired of beating their hairy chests? the only one thats behaving is ASCN... keep it clean, ppl want to know how it goes down there without BOB kindergarden jumps in and fills the thread with crap ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Minmatar ships: Varied piles of scrap metal welded together by random lightning strikes..
Tzrailasa Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.19 12:05:00 - [119] Edited by: Tzrailasa on 19/10/2006 12:18:46 Originally by: Bretonia Bob please give it a break, i will get bummed for using forums but what the hell. Bob is a good pvp alliance and i love to pit myself against you lads (n lasses) but is ther any real need to use spy tactics n such? or this mondo attitude that you must put people down on the forums? I have respect for Bob due to the fight well but the forums lads are making this a bit sad also with spies and such. Why not stfu with boasting n just get with it??? Fight with honour not spies and posting crap to make someone look bad? You have the skill ingame so why not just use it and come fight? Forums are for the weak smackers. Respect is for the honourable. Ie when ASCN fought G we fought hard and fast but I cannot recall spying and forum smacking of this level :) Anyways see you out there soon chaps Stop being so holy. Your alliance spies as well, but since the information you gain is not as incriminating as some of your leaders posts, then you're getting way less benefit from it. If it'd been the other way around, you'd have used the information in the same way too... Fact is, your leaders lie to you! If they didn't, we'd have no advantage of posting their laughable claims, and then ripping them apart in public. Apart from that, it's damn fun to do so. I've never heard of a BoB leader lying to his/her own members. They might not reveal everything to us, which is entirely prudent in a war situation, but they never lie! Exposing someone who posts lies is funny, not just because they're (in this case) in an opposing alliance, but more because lying to your own members is just WRONG! BoB pilots usually have a good sense of right and wrong, and enjoy exposing people doing so. As for us posting a lot on the forums. Well, if your guys would respawn faster, we wouldn't have the time to do so My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance.
Bretonia Gallente Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.19 12:11:00 - [120] That is your opinion The hole "look at me look at me" attitude is waring thin tbh, Im not holy just want to enjoy eve without Bob feeling the need to show whos got the bigger thingy. You all make yourselves seem to be wanting to prove something all the time and that. Anyway cu out there o/ Bret ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------ [i]"I don't want to achieve i
Coupo Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.19 12:38:00 - [121] Originally by: Shrike On popular demand ONOES! Goatthrowing vikingships anyone? Viking ships throwing goats were just plain awesome, EVE needs more goat Originally by: Bretonia Honour + Spying = naughty I can guarantee you that you have spies, had spies and will have spies. For you may not know it but theyre there. I Shoot first, ask questions about your veldspar mining technique later

Ulynidd Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.10.19 12:49:00 - [122] I dont know why this was not spotted sooner, but since the OP cant comply with the forum rules regarding alt posting, his thread will be locked. _____________________________ Ulynidd Lead Forum Moderator [ Forum Rules ]


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