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Muaddid
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Posted - 2003.11.01 00:30:00 -
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after 264 boring lvl 3 missions (thats over 75h of only doing agent missions), i got my Miner II BPo, talk about being happy :P
But my happiness dropped fairly rapidly seeing how many morons have a Miner II BPo... ive been selling none-stop all the Miner IIs i make since i got the BP (beside a few ive kept for my corp) by selling at the currently average price, never undercutting anyone, at 575k isk at luminaire... and God said... it was too good to last, i shouldnt make profit over that much investisement 
here enters Mr NeoChrome... guess what i see when i login ? yup Mr NeoChrome undercutted me, but not by the 1k or 5k... but by 30%... now... ive read the post asking ppl age and the average was of 20 years old... but when you look at that kind of market behavior it makes you wonder...
i know someone had a list of similar... silly people going on the forums a while ago but i cant seem to find it (yay for no search feature on the boards) so... anyone know of other peoples to add to the list ? 
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Muaddid
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Posted - 2003.11.01 00:53:00 -
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update : theres now 2 silly Miner II producers undercutting eachother in essence region, if you wait for tomorow they should be avaible at 50k... *rolls eyes*
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Korath
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Posted - 2003.11.01 01:23:00 -
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It's about time since they dont cost that much more than a Miner I to produce in the first place. Sheesh.
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Tirael
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Posted - 2003.11.01 01:28:00 -
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Totally. Not having a miner 2 BP ourselves and getting bored very quickly of the nonsense that has become agent missions, we decided to go down the "co-operative" route and secure a few longterm supply deals.
Eight days ago we secured the unlimited supply of miner2's at 1mil isk each (a great deal considering they were 1.8mil per unit at the time). Luckily the guys we were doing business with were very clued up, knowledgable and willing for a good deal and allowed a price drop to reflect market price.
2 days later we were buying them in for 500k each, under a MP of 750k. Today some muppet is putting them on the market for 400k.
My business contact, and rightly so, is getting twitchy about the terms of what was a marvellous deal for both parties.
I know I'm going to get the usual replies of "well that's competition mate", but now's the time to tell you all, that this isn't competition, this is downright stupid. The people who do the time in this game and either securing BP's through agents or conducting good business are basically being told to not bother by the system in place. That being schoolkids that have no idea how the fiscal possibilities of the game, can reflect upon the longterm success of their corp.
Just know that as the Tech 2 gets released, having a firm grip on what the term "healthy competition" means, if we get hold of a new BP and then some idiot comes along thinking they are clever by reducing the price to just above cost in a week, both myself and my allies will hunt them down and deliver their corpse to the Financial authorities.
For free.
Thank god Battleship production is somewhat immune to this nonsense that we are seeing due to process being out of reach of the schoolkids as a result of the time and effort involved. Maybe if they didn't squander the opportunities they have been given, they could all get into Battleship production instead of taking all the money out of the game and forcing everyone to be pirates in order to have any fun.
Madness.
The only completely consistent people are dead. - Aldous Huxley |
Enraku Reynolt
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Posted - 2003.11.01 04:03:00 -
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tech 2 will clean this sort of problem a bit
cause the people that will take the time to research and get the higher techs wont be so quick to slash profit mergins to worthless levels
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Fred0
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Posted - 2003.11.01 10:55:00 -
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Edited by: Fred0 on 01/11/2003 10:58:12
Undercutting is not a bad thing. The market for miner II's should be a perfect competition one since information is good and the miners II are all the same. In addition to this, supply will continue to grow while demand is steady to declining. Result: non debatable fact of life. low profit.
For people to earn alot of money you need to have an edge in some way (ie find a good spot)or produce extraordinary amounts
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Ruby LeFonte
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Posted - 2003.11.01 11:48:00 -
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Oh dear... you get undercut by 30% on 575k for an item that costs ~40k to make?
I feel really sorry for you
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Grimmy Deathstar
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Posted - 2003.11.01 12:16:00 -
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Oh dear... you get undercut by 30% on 575k for an item that costs ~40k to make?
I feel really sorry for you
I agree!!! the face of greed have shown its ugly face again. 
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Toulak
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Posted - 2003.11.01 12:17:00 -
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Its Techells fault for starting this ridiculous, undercutting.
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CubePusher
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Posted - 2003.11.01 12:50:00 -
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hmmmmmm if HMV had that kind of mark up we'd be paying 280 quid for DVD's. 
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2003.11.01 13:54:00 -
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Sorry to disappoint you, but as long as the guy is making a profit, there is NOTHING stupid about undercutting you buy 30%, 50% or even 99% if he wants to. If you don't like it .... tough.
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Tyrion Nydaerin
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Posted - 2003.11.01 14:51:00 -
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But whats the point of undercutting by that much? I'm baffled. You only need to undercut by 1 isk for your order to take precedence in the market....
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Ariemeth
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Posted - 2003.11.01 15:10:00 -
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The reason to undercut by 30% at 575K is to me rather simple. Someone goes to the market screen to look for a miner 2. Do a region search. There are several miner 2's available. You could either pay 575K from station within a few jumps or you could save 30% and make 10 to 15 jumps. It takes a large discount to get most people to want to take the long trip to pick something up. Majority of people would rather pay more money for the convience. Therefore the 30% discount would make sense to get more people to want to buy your product.
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Fred0
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Posted - 2003.11.01 15:35:00 -
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But whats the point of undercutting by that much? I'm baffled. You only need to undercut by 1 isk for your order to take precedence in the market....
Many ways to compete. Many different strategies available when it comes to pricing.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.11.01 15:50:00 -
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"The reason to undercut by 30% at 575K is to me rather simple. Someone goes to the market screen to look for a miner 2. Do a region search. There are several miner 2's available. You could either pay 575K from station within a few jumps or you could save 30% and make 10 to 15 jumps."
... But then what stops the undercutting producer from bringing their goods to the station which already has supply with higher price, and sell their own gear there for more due to location being more convenient to the buyer? O.o
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Syme
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Posted - 2003.11.01 16:46:00 -
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The truth is that the person selling those miner2s may not even be the producer but a dealer who has bought even lower and is looking for a quick return. This is totally fair business.
I understand the concerns that agent runners have and how time sapping it can be for very little reward (I gave up after I got a full set of implants)and I sympathise that you may not be making the isk you expected.
I know that there are some idiot manufacturers producing items for less than the npc mineral cost and these ppl do destroy the market but the cutting of high profit margins down to reasonable ones seems fair to me.
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Mallus Kulov
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Posted - 2003.11.01 17:08:00 -
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Looks you lost your marketing capability. Surely you're familar with this since we were all given access to the space lanes several months ago. Better pack up.
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csebal
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Posted - 2003.11.01 17:28:00 -
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Undercutting?
You cant be serious to complain, that someone is not reckless enough to sell a 40k item for 500k+ just because you do.
Competition is a sad thing, isnt it?
I do not blame people who do it, but to complain, just because you cant make 2000% profit on an item anymore, well, thats plain stupid.
We all know why everyone thinks, that 100-200% profit, or less is not even worth working for. I hope CCP learned the lesson, and will not create such monopolies again, so that people will learn to appreciate reasonable profits as well.
btw. Pray that i never get that miner2 BP, coz all i produce will go for 80-150k, not more. Then you can cry about undercutting ;)
my .02 isk
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Nootami
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Posted - 2003.11.01 18:21:00 -
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Well, cesbal, its your loss then.
Originally by: Cortex Reaver
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Amin
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Posted - 2003.11.01 18:43:00 -
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While i fully expected the price of m2's to drop, i was a little surprised how quickly it did. This was due to the sudden large influx of m2 producers who all wanted to sell quicker than their competitors.
The nose dive in price was due to all producers undercutting each other, and not any single party.
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Ariemeth
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Posted - 2003.11.01 19:48:00 -
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... But then what stops the undercutting producer from bringing their goods to the station which already has supply with higher price, and sell their own gear there for more due to location being more convenient to the buyer? O.o
Because of the convience of the seller. I'm not gonna jump around the whole system placing items for a slightly higher profit margin if i can get more overall profit with a slightly lower % buy selling at a few locations cheaper then everyone else.
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Lily Savage
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Posted - 2003.11.01 22:18:00 -
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I get the impression that the original poster wanted some sort of cosy price-fixed cartel, and expected this to just happen without any collaberation or effort on his or the other seller's parts.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.11.01 22:22:00 -
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"Because of the convience of the seller. I'm not gonna jump around the whole system placing items for a slightly higher profit margin if i can get more overall profit with a slightly lower % buy selling at a few locations cheaper then everyone else."
... 30% is 'slightly lower'?
Let me know when you start building battleships; i hope we manage to negotiate a slight discount.... :s
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.11.01 23:14:00 -
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I once learned a great lesson:
Only buy bps you need and dont meddle with these idiots on the markets. Sell the bp as quick as you can after you made some items for own use. :)
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Muaddid
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Posted - 2003.11.01 23:40:00 -
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Edited by: Muaddid on 01/11/2003 23:41:26
if i had brought the BP at 2m isk, would i mind being undercutted like this ? no, because i wouldnt have put much efforts in it, but when you do over 150hours of agent missions and this happens... well you think, why am i playing this game again ? im sitll looking for the answer
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2003.11.02 00:48:00 -
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Edited by: Muaddid on 01/11/2003 23:41:26
if i had brought the BP at 2m isk, would i mind being undercutted like this ? no, because i wouldnt have put much efforts in it, but when you do over 150hours of agent missions and this happens... well you think, why am i playing this game again ? im sitll looking for the answer
I'm sorry?
You found out, in advance, that Miner II bp's would be freely available to anyone completing a large enough number of missions for a lvl3 Minmatar agent ... and THEN you went to get one, without ever stopping to think that their being freely available meant the prices would collapse?
I guess there is someone being stupid here after all.
But, cheer up. It wasn't just you. Apparently scores of people all went to get a Miner II bp, expressly because there were hardly any Miner II bp's in the game
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Muaddid
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Posted - 2003.11.02 02:45:00 -
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I'm sorry?
You found out, in advance, that Miner II bp's would be freely available to anyone completing a large enough number of missions for a lvl3 Minmatar agent ...
im not asking to sell them at 2m piece like techell was, which imo was exessif, but considering the time involved to acquire a Miner II BPo, selling them at 300k when they 1- sell very well at 500k, and 2- took over 150h of hard work to get is plain silly imo
in fact, im still selling them at 500k very easily, which shows how much stupid of him it was to sell at thoses prices (it went as low as 325k) seeing how he can make nearly twice as much money for no more efforts... but hey, this is what happen in a player-driven economy when you have idiots...
its almost funny to think CCP was seeing cruisers sell at 15m and battleships at 200m isk... if it was the case fleets would be alot more different, with more thought needed...
I must admit I seriously thought the effort needed for a Miner II BPo would drive away this kind of people, and we could see an healthy economy (you think cars or computers sells at production cost ? lol) but once again the players decided against that no, everyone should just produce for themself :(
I'll still try to sell as many as a can at a decent price and well, maybe ill just use one of the in-game features made for this thing... should be fun 
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Tirael
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Posted - 2003.11.02 05:59:00 -
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Just for the muppet who used HMV as an example earlier in this thread, a CD, fully packaged, costs around 70 pence to make.
So why do we buy them at ú8-15 at a time?
Because that's what supports the economy.
Muppet.
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Mynobe Soletae
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Posted - 2003.11.02 07:09:00 -
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Edited by: Mynobe Soletae on 02/11/2003 07:14:04
Regarding agents... I stopped doing missions long ago. Before I got implants, even. I actually bought implants back when they were in the 10-15 mil range. Easier for me.
And I figured miner 2's would go down, so I didn't want the BP. I only have BP's of the ammo I use, and some guns for when I wanna play manufacturing mogul. Everything else can be bought, cheaply, so no sense spending on BP's.
Re: miner 2's, they're a profit even at 100k, everyone keeps saying. And the reason why people undercut themselves is because they're afraid that the demand will go away. It's already pretty much gone; everyone who wanted miner 2's got them for 5 mil each, and has already recovered that cost by mining extensively with them.
500k vs 300k isn't a big deal... I bet all the left-over people who still needed miner 2's bought them as soon as they hit 1 mil, so by now really NO ONE wants miner 2's anymore.
If you're gonna continue to work your agents, go ahead; you're probably gonna have an advantage when they introduce the next tech level 2 bp. Then again, it sounds like all that faction work will go down the drain when Smurf resets the factions as Switchover-to-new-agent-schema-Step-1.
And why are you grinding anyway? Countless hours of boring work, no fun, why? Does it look like there's anything remotely interesting on the horizon to be working for?
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Fred0
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Posted - 2003.11.02 09:31:00 -
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Edited by: Fred0 on 02/11/2003 09:31:50
I must admit I seriously thought the effort needed for a Miner II BPo would drive away this kind of people, and we could see an healthy economy (you think cars or computers sells at production cost ? lol) but once again the players decided against that no, everyone should just produce for themself :(
I'll still try to sell as many as a can at a decent price and well, maybe ill just use one of the in-game features made for this thing... should be fun
Well, a healthy economy and a situation like this guarantees you that the prices will go down in the long run. Supply will continue to grow faster than demand while the profit margin is still high. And it's only sound that it does.
I have no idea where you guys got your economy 101 but saying someone is stupid because they charge less than they possible could is not is a load of crap in itself. The strategies everyone choose to compete can and should be different.
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vixit
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Posted - 2003.11.02 11:03:00 -
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If you don't want an undercut...
Wage war, destroy... and voila:
"you have your own monopoly"
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2003.11.02 11:07:00 -
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Just for the muppet who used HMV as an example earlier in this thread, a CD, fully packaged, costs around 70 pence to make.
So why do we buy them at ú8-15 at a time?
Because that's what supports the economy.
Muppet.
I buy CDs at ten for a fiver. You want to work on that analogy some more?
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.11.02 18:45:00 -
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in fact, im still selling them at 500k very easily, which shows how much stupid of him it was to sell at thoses prices
No, it shows how stupid this thread is. If you're still selling at your price, why come here and ***** about him undercutting you?
Silly.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.02 23:08:00 -
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It is "silly" for any who remember the regional amrkets before Highways trashed most of the economy.
Its also "silly" in terms of the decreased profits over increased production expense (make more items to get less profit)
It can be "silly" for a lot of very good reasons.
Bottom line though is probably what CCP think... and they are clearly showing that by removing unlimite doriginal BPs as being agent rewards and even drops.
They didn't intend the galactic market to work like this, they didn't intend to destroy regional markets, they didn't intend for BPC sales to be more worthwhile than manufacturing and they didn't intend for sale costs of most items only just reaching over recycling costs and in some cases being underneath it.
All of that is "silly".
But so, in some people's opinions, is "panic selling"... which is rife in EVE where people produce non-stop and hten worry if they don't sell 100% by the expiry of the 24hour cycle.. so drastically reduce prices to clear - rinse, repeat, ad nauseum.
A lot of things are silly.
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Denathis Arabar
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Posted - 2003.11.03 23:35:00 -
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Just for the muppet who used HMV as an example earlier in this thread, a CD, fully packaged, costs around 70 pence to make.
So why do we buy them at ú8-15 at a time?
Because that's what supports the economy.
Muppet.
erm yeah i buy cd's for about 20-30p each you muppet. If you mean music cd's then there is more cost involved (prolly about ú5 all in) and you can get them for about ú2-4 .
Competition is a good thing, the fact is the market is not silly because people compete, its realistic. It would be silly if your miners sold at 2000% profit for a long time. The market in eve is actually very realistic!!
Mimmicking a real life market.
Initially when the new item comes out it is ridiculously priced for those stupid/desperate/rich enough to buy. The few companies who risked investment in the product make large profits (though set up costs are high to be able to make the product)
Then as the product show popularity then it is manufactured by more and more. Cost for manufacturing comes down and prices drop. You show me one item which keeps its price high NATURALLY and i will give you 1,000,000 isk.
The system is perfect at the moment. The problem is in the ease of manufacture. If you had a world where everyone could make anything given the right minerals and instructions then EVERYTHING would be cheap. Which is what is happening in eve. Items need to take skill to make, which only characters with high memory can make. Then you will see luxury items which will keep high prices. The "Ferraris" of eve
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.11.04 02:05:00 -
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Morkt, you're just upset because you were wrong about the Miner II market tanking hardcore. 
Veruna Caseti
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2003.11.04 03:23:00 -
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Its also "silly" in terms of the decreased profits over increased production expense (make more items to get less profit)
Again, you completely fail to comprehend that other people might just possible have motives that don't consist of "gouge the customer for as much as you possible can."
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Caleb Ayrania
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Posted - 2003.11.04 12:39:00 -
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Have anyone ever seen a marketed items introduction development?
Like IPOs on the stockmarkets?
Funny but seems like the curve looks exactly like the price development of the Miner II..
Its natural, so please stop mudthrowing allready..
If market demand is strong enough it should eventually go back up some.. I expect to see it level at around 500-600k
Regards Caleb Ayrania.
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Tirael
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Posted - 2003.11.04 17:14:00 -
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I buy CDs at ten for a fiver. You want to work on that analogy some more?
Assuming you actually got the point and you are referring to music cd's, I'll have to guess you buy them off "Dodgy Alan" down the market. To bring a similarity between a black market and a commercial economy to the table, and not propose that one is a biproduct of the other, I think kind of proves my point.
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Again, you completely fail to comprehend that other people might just possible have motives that don't consist of "gouge the customer for as much as you possible can."
Walk into any high street store near you and see if they'll give you a management job.
You a Director in your Corporation?
You work for Microsoft, right?
Why not give stuff away for free then?
Oh Lordy.
All questions are rhetorical by the way, just kidding.
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psychonaut
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Posted - 2003.11.04 17:23:00 -
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Here we go again !!!!!
People have taken days to get that BP. Just think how much they could mine in that time!!!
Unfortunatly people dont think they should pay more than mineral rates for things, and even worse some people dont think they should sell for a profit coz after all minerals are 'free' as they mined them so its all profit isnt it?
Ive stopped producing anything as its just not worth the time and effort. Let the sell at mineral value group spend hours losing money.
The markets screwed RIP
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Tirael
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Posted - 2003.11.04 18:24:00 -
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Cowns to the left of me, jokers to the right. Here I am, stuck in the middle with you....
lol
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DATRO
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Posted - 2003.11.04 19:22:00 -
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This happens quite frequently with the Implant market as well. What do I do to combat this problem? I buy them up as fast as I can. Then sell them at my price which is normally the lowest in the region after buying out the lowballer. sure he gets away with selling it, but I still make the 30% on the implant. Not a bad haul.
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GraveDigger
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Posted - 2003.11.04 19:35:00 -
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I've been saying the same thing for weeks!!
the people that have the M2 originals are a bunch of morons.
I used to sell them on the Metro market, but because of all the idiots undercutting each other, its just not worth the hastle.
I know who the corps that sell them are, they come to my station and give me the zero sell order bug first. bunch of cheaters IMO. then, when that didn't work, they come to my station from one jump away to under sell me and we get into a sell war.I would be more pi$$ed off if I hadn't made alot of isks from them early on.
It was too good to last though.
my corp is not out to sabotage anyone selling M2's in the metro region, I wish you all the luck, even though yall killed the market for them. I could give out corp. names and sellers but think that would be totaly week.
just like Techell having 6 wars going on at one time because of high M2 prices, I could see people getting just as mad at the corps that tanked the prices down under 300k.
not I however, we stoped selling them on the market when they went under 900k each.
we just make BPcs and sell to people that want them on the trade channel and people we meet out selling cruiser BPs.
again, good luck to all that get a M2 original. I never thought they would go under 1 mills each.
people used to line up in droves to pay 5.5 mills each from techell, its a mystery to me why people would sell them at 300k or less.
Greed, I guess :)
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Fred0
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Posted - 2003.11.04 20:02:00 -
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again, good luck to all that get a M2 original. I never thought they would go under 1 mills each. people used to line up in droves to pay 5.5 mills each from techell, its a mystery to me why people would sell them at 300k or less.
That really says more about you than the rest. Do you have any clue as to how markets work?
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Fred0
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Posted - 2003.11.04 20:04:00 -
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The markets screwed RIP
Not really. It's just highly competitive with full transparency, perfect information etc. Result is marginal profits. Anyone knows that.
You guys make me chuckle every time...
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Totalis Orange
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Posted - 2003.11.04 23:03:00 -
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Walk into any high street store near you and see if they'll give you a management job.
You a Director in your Corporation?
You work for Microsoft, right?
Why not give stuff away for free then?
Oh Lordy.
You don't really think too much about economics of things do you? It is plain silly to think that all corprations do is gouge consumers for all it can.
There are different ways to generating overall profit for the company. Each company has their own stredgy. Not all companies simply charge the highest it can for products & services.
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Fred0
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Posted - 2003.11.05 10:19:00 -
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Excactly, with the time it takes to travel etc. I bet someone setting up a board and offering advanced 121 deliveries could probably make alot of money. Especially if the costumer is member of one of the outer regions.
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Fausto
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Posted - 2003.11.05 10:25:00 -
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So the one selling it for 300k is greedy and the one selling it for 2,5m is smart?
If I had one I would be selling them for 200k and lower.
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Arrik
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Posted - 2003.11.05 10:58:00 -
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Oh dear.
So your precious moneyspinner has now fallen apart because people who understand that we don't want to pay ridiculous prices for a simple mining laser?
Look at the basic stats, compare it to the Miner 1. The Miner 2 requires 10 more CPU (making that much harder to fit in numbers), and has an ore rate (even after skill modS) only 33% greater than the miner 1.
Is this really worth 2000% markups? I didn't think so. I weouldn't buy other mining lasers because they were stupidly overpriced, but at least they had the excuse of being rare loot drops. No, I will continue to buy my Miner 2s in Minmatar space at 270k each or lower, and line the purse of someone who sells at the price THE BUYER is willing to purchase at.
We are not all out there for you to take advantage of, and we are not all so stupid as to pay 12 or even 3M for an item that costs you next to nothing to produce.
Go "Morons" - We Salute You!
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SUNchaser
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Posted - 2003.11.05 17:58:00 -
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Its got nothing to do with greed or stupidity. It is simply a matter of supply and demand. To assume that an item that costs 50K to make should sell at 10, 50,100 times its base cost is foolish. The original prices on miner II's were very high due to very limited demand. If you wanted prices to stay high then the miner II BP should never have made it into the game. All miner II's should have been NPC pirate drops just like the other named mining lasers and thus ensuring a very limited supply.
The only reason the "harvester cartel" is able to artificially hold prices high is because the supply was cut off by ccp. If the new tech 2 items are brought into the game in the same way as miner II's were you can expect a collapse of prices for them too. The only pay off for the people who have spent all that time doing missions is not a miner II BP payoff but they should all be near the forefront receiving the new tech 2 stuff. The high profit window may be small but it will be there for a short period of time. Who said that once you got your miner II BP you would be on easy street in this game from that point on.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2003.11.05 21:22:00 -
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I buy CDs at ten for a fiver. You want to work on that analogy some more?
Assuming you actually got the point and you are referring to music cd's
Ahh .. we're talking about music CDs? In that case, I apologise. My reply should have read?
To suggest that they cost so little to place on the shelves is absolute garbage. Someone has to write the music; someone has to produce it; someone has to distribute it; someone has to pay rental on the shop space where they're being sold. Unless, of course, you refer ONLY to the cost of "making the CD" .. in which case, well, I buy Cds at ten for a fiver.
You want to work on that analogy some more?
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Cell Satimo
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Posted - 2003.11.05 22:56:00 -
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No pity from me.
I waited until the price dropped to under 500k before buying 8 of them. So I guess I saved myself 12m++ (depending on what time you look at the pricing history.)
That of course, it the consumers strategy for the market :)
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2003.11.06 01:39:00 -
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No pity from me.
I waited until the price dropped to under 500k before buying 8 of them. So I guess I saved myself 12m++ (depending on what time you look at the pricing history.)
That of course, it the consumers strategy for the market :)
The trouble is, you can't TELL. I sold off my collection of implants, knowing full well that as more and more people did agent missions, the supply would keep going up and the price would keep going down.
Then they unexpectedly juggled things around, nobody knew where, or even if, you could get perception implants any more, and the ones I'd just sold for 6-8 million each were suddenly worth more than five times as much.
I was not a happy bunny.
OTOH I also had every reason to believe miner II prices would fall, so I waited to buy them, and they DID fall. Some you lose, some you win.
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