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Leto Aramaus
Spiritus Draconis Spaceship Bebop
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Posted - 2015.03.19 04:02:11 -
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Okay tell me this isn't the best idea ever...
I was sitting here wishing for more overview tabs, way more.
Of course I realized that you can only have so many, before you'd have to start scrolling the tabs back and forth, or dragging your overview across half the screen. Which EVE can technically be played with, but would make it very hard to spin camera and fly manually or look at the battlefield.
This is also a problem with the different overview columns... in order to see things like velocity, radial, transversal, [anyone even care about?] angular... you have to drag the overview quite wide. For me, on a 1080p screen, it's too far and interfering with my internet spaceship visuals and even the ability to see the grid well. People on a non-widescreen, smaller screen, or lower resolution, I'd hate to be you.
So I've posted in the past, and am a big proponent of huge, radical, total rebuilds and changes to EVE, like building a new game engine from scratch. Pretty much nobody wants this, or even if they want it... even the people who would like to see this for EVE, say it literally CAN'T or just will never be done by CCP. Okay fine, I'll still play it with the gameplay we have now, but give me much more control over my interface.
One of my biggest complaints with EVE is the spreadsheets. The overview, local, d-scan, fleet chat, fleet broadcasts, fleet list (sometimes), intel channels... on and on. The result is, you have to do a lot of clicking on tiny little tabs and buttons, to switch between all your different information panels (spreadsheets).
This is getting TL;DR... so here's what I'm suggesting:
Give me total control over the UI.
- First, allow me to create an (effectively) infinite amount of Overview presets. 99? 999? I'd be happy with 99, hell even 10 or 20, but this would all be client side, correct? So it should be possible, and have no effect on the servers or anyone else's client, right?
- Allow me to save any UI 'state' into a preset. Which windows are open, which tabs are at 'front', how big each window is, what COLUMNS it displays...
- Allow me to map any of the presets to a hotkey/combo.
BAM! I can be a space pilot GOD!!!!!!
Cntrl+1 = PVP targets (all shiptypes, no blues shown, no celectials/cans/beacons/anything but ships) Cntrl+2 = Gates only Cntrl+3 = Stations and Gates only Cntrl+4 = Stations and Gates and all Ships (even blues) Cntrl+5 = Beacons and ships Cntrl+6 = Beacons only Cntrl+S = Overview "THIS" size Cntrl+C = Overview "THAT size (column width too) Cntrl+V = "This" overview with Local+Dscan (in certain saved positions/sizes/etc) Cntrl+B = "That" overview with Fleet broadcasts, Local here, fleet chat there, X sizes, etc
Unlimited hotkeys for unlimited UI "states". Any window, configuration of windows, size, shape, what they're showing... can be "snapshotted" and saved, able to be recalled with a hotkey.
Make it quick easy process... once the arranging/setting is done... *snap* hotkey-x snapshots the current UI state, box opens to save a name for it, like OV presets. Then hit a keystroke that brings up a list of your mappable presets, you select which one, then you do the hotkey/keystroke you want to map it to, and done.
Anyone have those "MMO" mice or keyboards, with all the macro keys/buttons? I'd buy one in an instant for this. Thumb keypad for overview presets, keyboard macro buttons for UI window "states" and arrangements.
GLO-RI-OUS.
Any reasons why not? This idea is PURE GOLD.
CCP I like my paychecks how I like my JG Wentworth, one lump sum. You're welcome.
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Leto Aramaus
Spiritus Draconis Spaceship Bebop
76
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Posted - 2015.03.19 12:53:38 -
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bump |

Leto Aramaus
Spiritus Draconis Spaceship Bebop
76
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Posted - 2015.03.19 16:04:16 -
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BUMMMP!
CCP this needs to be a sticky.
This is the future of EVE UI. |

Leto Aramaus
Spiritus Draconis Spaceship Bebop
77
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Posted - 2015.03.20 02:25:37 -
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ALSO
A hotkey for D-scan "SCAN"
Please?
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HTC NecoSino
No Vacancies
187
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Posted - 2015.03.20 20:19:18 -
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Leto Aramaus wrote:this isn't the best idea ever.
CCP won't allow macros to affect the overview/targeting panes due to auto-locking botnet whatever.
An aside, get a knock-off brand programmable mouse. I think I got mine for like $30 and it was worth every cent.
Oh, and even if this idea was original and great, the ISD will lock it for bumping, so don't bump it more than once/day. |

Leto Aramaus
Spiritus Draconis Spaceship Bebop
77
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Posted - 2015.03.20 20:45:44 -
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Quote:CCP won't allow macros to affect the overview/targeting panes due to auto-locking botnet whatever.
Really???
So MY gaming experience is limited because a feature that would VASTLY improve the UI experience could be exploited by bots???
The current UI can already be exploited by bots...
Any UI ever will always be exploitable by bots, unless you want to add CAPTCHAs to every action in EVE???
Unbelievably WORST excuse to not add a good idea... I've EVER heard.
You couldn't even form a coherent thought regarding the reasons against this... "auto-locking botnet whatever". HAH!
Again... the UI can already be botted, any action on a computer can be botted... and you're telling me my ability to customize what I see on the UI can't be improved because "macros shouldn't be allowed because something something potential botting"
TROLOLOL...
Well CCP needs to change their tune if you ask me.
Can I PLEEEEASE get a hotkey for D-scan "Scan".
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BravoPrime
Garoun Investment Bank
0
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Posted - 2015.03.20 23:34:04 -
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You sir are a god among men. |

Joan Miles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2015.03.21 10:23:02 -
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BravoPrime wrote:You sir are a god among men.
Wait.... is . . he . . BOB ????? 
On topic. Hotkeys to make overview control easier would be a welcome addition. I can't be certain how susceptible this would be to botting or any way of automation though, but if it can be abused in anyway it would be better to 'click click' more. |

Davey Talvanen
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
33
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Posted - 2015.03.21 12:29:13 -
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Leto Aramaus wrote:Okay tell me this isn't the best idea ever...
I was sitting here wishing for more overview tabs, way more.
Of course I realized that you can only have so many, before you'd have to start scrolling the tabs back and forth, or dragging your overview across half the screen. Which EVE can technically be played with, but would make it very hard to spin the camera and fly manually or look at the battlefield.
This is also a problem with the different overview columns... in order to see things like velocity, radial, transversal, [anyone even care about?] angular... you have to drag the overview quite wide. For me, on a 1080p screen, it's too far and interfering with my internet spaceship visuals and even the ability to see the grid well. People on a non-widescreen, smaller screen, or lower resolution, I'd hate to be you.
So I've posted in the past, and am a big proponent of huge, radical, total rebuilds and changes to EVE, like building a new game engine from scratch. Pretty much nobody wants this, or even if they want it... even the people who would like to see this for EVE, say it literally CAN'T or just will never be done by CCP. Okay fine, I'll still play it with the gameplay we have now, but give me much more control over my interface.
One of my biggest complaints with EVE is the spreadsheets. The overview, local, d-scan, fleet chat, fleet broadcasts, fleet list (sometimes), intel channels... on and on. The result is, you have to do a lot of clicking on tiny little tabs and buttons, to switch between all your different information panels (spreadsheets).
This is getting TL;DR... so here's what I'm suggesting:
Give me total control over the UI.
- First, allow me to create an (effectively) infinite amount of Overview presets. 99? 999? I'd be happy with 99, hell even 10 or 20, but this would all be client side, correct? So it should be possible, and have no effect on the servers or anyone else's client, right?
- Allow me to save any UI 'state' into a preset. Which windows are open, which tabs are at 'front', how big each window is, what COLUMNS it displays...
- Allow me to map any of the presets to a hotkey/combo.
BAM! I can be a space pilot GOD!!!!!!
Cntrl+1 = PVP targets (all shiptypes, no blues shown, no celestials/cans/beacons/anything else) Cntrl+2 = Gates only Cntrl+3 = Stations and Gates only Cntrl+4 = Stations and Gates and all Ships (even blues) Cntrl+5 = Beacons and ships Cntrl+6 = Beacons only Cntrl+S = Overview "THIS" size Cntrl+C = Overview "THAT size (column width too) Cntrl+V = "This" overview with Local+Dscan (in certain saved positions/sizes/etc) Cntrl+B = "That" overview with Fleet broadcasts, Local here, fleet chat there, X sizes, etc
Unlimited hotkeys for unlimited UI "states". Any window, configuration of windows, size, shape, what they're showing... can be "snapshotted" and saved, able to be recalled with a hotkey.
Make it a quick easy process... once the arranging/setting is done... *snap* hotkey-x snapshots the current UI state, box opens to save a name for it, like OV presets.
Then to map hit a keystroke that brings up a list of your mappable presets, you select which one, then you do the hotkey/keystroke you want to map it to, and done.
Anyone have those "MMO" mice or keyboards, with all the macro keys/buttons? I'd buy one in an instant for this. Thumb keypad for overview presets, keyboard macro buttons for UI window "states" and arrangements.
GLO-RI-OUS.
Any reasons why not? This idea is PURE GOLD.
CCP I like my paychecks how I like my JG Wentworth, one lump sum. You're welcome.
Make this man an employee NOW |

Leto Aramaus
Spiritus Draconis Spaceship Bebop
81
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Posted - 2015.03.23 18:31:29 -
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Bump
CCP can I get a Dev response on this?
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Steppa Musana
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2015.03.23 18:55:50 -
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Are you seriously bumping your thread every few hours? Are asking for a dev response? Its a good suggestion, let it stand for itself instead of shoving it down everyone's throats  |

Leto Aramaus
Spiritus Draconis Spaceship Bebop
81
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Posted - 2015.03.23 19:21:30 -
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Steppa Musana wrote:Are you seriously bumping your thread every few hours? Are asking for a dev response? Its a good suggestion, let it stand for itself instead of shoving it down everyone's throats 
Do you know how to read timestamps?
Why did you think I bumped it every few hours?
Edit: thanks for the bump |

Krops Vont
Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens
50
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Posted - 2015.03.24 16:17:39 -
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Inb4 lock. Bump once a day not once an hour. Rules are rules.
My 2 isk: Ctrl + Shift + Tab will switch between overviews and Ctrl + Shift + # will load what preset you created.
Minus that, the only problem I see is I want less things on my screen and more pretty spaceships.
As with any human, we must map out everything for the sake of living. So what happens when you put the same aspect in a game with random events? They go nuts trying to figure out how to predict and map out everything.
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Leto Aramaus
Spiritus Draconis Spaceship Bebop
81
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Posted - 2015.03.24 16:26:19 -
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Krops Vont wrote:Inb4 lock. Bump once a day not once an hour. Rules are rules.
My 2 isk: Ctrl + Shift + Tab will switch between overviews and Ctrl + Shift + # will load what preset you created.
Minus that, the only problem I see is I want less things on my screen and more pretty spaceships.
OKAY PEOPLE.... lol =\
After the first day, where I wrongfully bumped more than once... I haven't been bumping "once every few hours" or even once a day.
But thanks for the bump.
CCP do this asap.
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Leto Aramaus
Spiritus Draconis Spaceship Bebop
83
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Posted - 2015.03.26 04:27:11 -
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***********************Related Issue************************************
Shortcut Menu Catastrophe
Window Tab = good, all window open/close hotkeys
Combat Tab = Targeting and "Tagging" (what do these even do?) hotkeys... but also Warp, Align, Dock/Jump, Approach < Not combat,
Warp, Jump, Align, Approach, etc definitely belong in...
Navigation Tab = - Broadcast hotkeys?!?! - Camera controls/toggles?!?! - Select Next Target ????!!!! - Toggle Brackets???? - Toggle Brackets is a navigation control??? - Camera controls????? DAFUQ??
DO MY ORIGINAL POST!!!!!!!!!!
How is there a hotkey for opening/closing EVERY SINGLE WINDOW... but working with/changing the UI... you know, playing the game, is so limited?
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
2397
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Posted - 2015.03.27 19:38:31 -
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no no no, this will never work out on a console controller!!
+1 you magnificent bastard
A Caldari is just a Gallente who begged to have their civil liberties taken away.
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Somal Thunder
V0LTA Triumvirate.
16
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Posted - 2015.03.28 01:37:46 -
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1. More overview presets 2. Map hotkeys to presets 3. Add "configurations" (groups of presets) 4. Map hotkeys to swapping between configurations 5. ????? |

Leto Aramaus
Spiritus Draconis Spaceship Bebop
85
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Posted - 2015.03.28 03:26:56 -
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Somal Thunder wrote:1. More overview presets 2. Map hotkeys to presets 3. Add "configurations" (groups of presets) 4. Map hotkeys to swapping between configurations 5. ?????
During PVP I would benefit a lot from being able to quickly change many things, in the UI, in specific and precise ways, with a single keypress. All the things described in my OP... changing overview presets, changing window sizes and positions, and changing window tabs... are the biggest ones.
So...
5. Pilot my ship much more effectively
The UI update we deserve
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University Minmatar Republic
11368
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Posted - 2015.03.28 03:45:12 -
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Krops Vont wrote:Inb4 lock. Bump once a day not once an hour. Rules are rules. That rule applies to the Sell Orders section, and not to the rest of the forum. There is a rule that states bumping is not allowed out side of the Marketplace and Recruiting sections.
However, I do like this idea very much.
So by all means keep it active. |

Tokarz Delmas
Novus Intelligendo ltd.
0
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Posted - 2015.03.28 04:19:08 -
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i agree with this as well bumping for posterity |

Brometheus Down
The Creative Assembly
2
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Posted - 2015.03.28 17:23:04 -
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Yes please!
Well done
The Creative Assembly is now looking for spacebros for industry and pvp endeavours
~ The Creative Assembly ~
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Esyavore Lando
Talu Shaya Industries
29
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Posted - 2015.04.04 10:00:26 -
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I support this |

Wilj0
8
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Posted - 2015.05.01 18:16:58 -
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+1
Bump |

Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
983
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Posted - 2015.05.01 18:26:08 -
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Leto Aramaus wrote:A hotkey for D-scan "SCAN"
That's been requested several times and *no, there are some issues with that. Currently it's not possible for reasons.* |

Leto Aramaus
Spiritus Draconis Spaceship Bebop
107
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Posted - 2015.05.02 13:29:25 -
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Lloyd Roses wrote:Leto Aramaus wrote:A hotkey for D-scan "SCAN" That's been requested several times and *no, there are some issues with that. Currently it's not possible for reasons.*
CCP is this true?
The UI update we deserve
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Thorr VonAsgard
Never Surrender. Drama Sutra
59
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Posted - 2015.05.08 14:46:06 -
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You have my +1 !
You miss blink ? Come and play with us at EVE-Lotteries.com !
Envie de fraicheur ? Frugu, le forum fruité est fait pour toi !
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kyoukoku
The Scope Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2015.05.11 02:12:49 -
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Ugh I just wanted to add another couple of tabs to my overview (I'm already using the SaraShawa pack with my own modifications) and forgot that we're currently restricted to 5 tabs at most, so I fully support this idea.
CCP gib moar tabs naow (or at least sooner rather than SoonGäó) a++ püñ Gùò_Gùò a++püñ please?! |

Catherine Laartii
Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate
524
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Posted - 2015.05.11 02:49:38 -
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I'm not sure whether or not to high five you on a good idea or high five you with my rockets since you're galmil. Can I do both? |

Malcolm Malicious
Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective
67
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Posted - 2015.05.11 11:07:34 -
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I logged in just to like this |

Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
31455
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Posted - 2015.05.12 01:58:35 -
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Yes I support any move away from clicking actions. Clicking requires an accurate motion with the mouse, and of course the physical movement of the mouse away from controlling the ship. Hotkeys allow you to manipulate the client in place.
It's not just an issue of the mouse travelling to the tab, it's the time it takes to travel back to tactical readiness. Your eyes, as well.
If you can switch overview tabs with hotkeys, even cycle through them, your mouse cursor is free to prepare for more practical things.
Help, I can't download EVE
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Leto Aramaus
Spiritus Draconis Spaceship Bebop
122
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Posted - 2015.05.29 17:49:14 -
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Rain6637 wrote:Yes I support any move away from clicking actions. Clicking requires an accurate motion with the mouse, and of course the physical movement of the mouse away from controlling the ship. Hotkeys allow you to manipulate the client in place.
It's not just an issue of the mouse travelling to the tab, it's the time it takes to travel back to tactical readiness. Your eyes, as well.
If you can switch overview tabs with hotkeys, even cycle through them, your mouse cursor is free to prepare for more practical things.
This exactly.
CCP can you seriously just start a Dev team devoted to simple improvements like this, and the multitude of other obvious +1s in F&I, that everyone just instantly agrees are good ideas.
I will manage it, for only $85,000/yr
The UI update we deserve
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Christopher Mabata
The Interstellar Manipulation Consortium
341
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Posted - 2015.05.30 00:37:39 -
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I think we need more optional overview tabs, not neccesarily more hotkeys I make due with 5 but i have literally 100+ overview presets ranging from Friendly Fleet, Hostile Tackle, Hostile Cruisers, Hostile Caps, Supers, An alert system for bubbles and probes, the list goes on and on.
Not saying i dont like the idea
Theory-Crafter, Free Agent, Immortal Space Pirate. Generally Crazy and difficult to understand at times.
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
194
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Posted - 2015.06.11 15:51:24 -
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You will have this overviews for ship only or to a wreck only, and others, 99 in sum, and you wil remember them and you will have every shortcut remembered, is that right?  Bind shortcut to overview tab is all we need, nothing else. |

SFM Hobb3s
Wrecking Shots Black Legion.
306
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Posted - 2015.06.11 16:30:14 -
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One thing I would love is if CCP would allow me to have one session that can span onto dual screens. It would have the 'space' and ship view on one side, and only all my UI stuff on the second side. |

Leto Aramaus
Spiritus Draconis Spaceship Bebop
131
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Posted - 2015.06.11 17:01:36 -
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Nana Skalski wrote:You will have this overviews for ship only or to a wreck only, and others, 99 in sum, and you wil remember them and you will have every shortcut remembered, is that right?  Bind shortcut to overview tab is all we need, nothing else.
No of course I won't be able to remember or even map 99 different presets or states, but even 10 would be amazing.
We need shortcuts for overview tabs, at the very least.
We also should get more overview tabs, for sure.
But to give us hotkeys for any given overview preset would be even more useful. Clickers could still use the tabs to change between 5 different overviews just like now, but people like me could use hotkeys to change between 10-15 even faster.
The "whole UI state" presets would be the best thing to happen to EVE UI since 2003.
The UI update we deserve
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Cat Harkness
Twilight Labs
38
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:21:28 -
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SFM Hobb3s wrote:One thing I would love is if CCP would allow me to have one session that can span onto dual screens. It would have the 'space' and ship view on one side, and only all my UI stuff on the second side.
Maybe I am missing what you are asking for. But I do this now. All my chat, HUD, overview, targets, probes, necom are on my left screen, and the right has Space, my ship, and sometimes my Cargo Hold and that is all.
I am running a Fixed Window size of 3840x1080 running a GTS450.
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Teebeutel
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
2
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Posted - 2015.06.11 22:37:39 -
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Cat Harkness wrote:SFM Hobb3s wrote:One thing I would love is if CCP would allow me to have one session that can span onto dual screens. It would have the 'space' and ship view on one side, and only all my UI stuff on the second side. Maybe I am missing what you are asking for. But I do this now. All my chat, HUD, overview, targets, probes, necom are on my left screen, and the right has Space, my ship, and sometimes my Cargo Hold and that is all. I am running a Fixed Window size of 3840x1080 running a GTS450. Doing this is slightly problematic if you use monitors with different vertical resolutions though. |

Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
196
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Posted - 2015.06.12 00:06:59 -
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Leto Aramaus wrote:but people like me could use hotkeys to change between 10-15 even faster. How faster it would be to identify target of interest when you have 15 different overviews to remember and switch thru them when you need it? I think 5 is enough, have been enough for 12 years. For different activities you can even import the settings now. |

Dense Kaka WarSaw
EVE University Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2015.06.12 01:26:44 -
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I do different things in Eve and hope to have for quick actions to change my overview settings, both for short (show me wrecks/show containers) and long period of time (switch to scouting/exploration/etc.)
Soooooooo, PLUS ONE +1 +1 +1 !!oneone CCP GIB US ANSWER FINALLY
Peace |

Cat Harkness
Twilight Labs
38
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Posted - 2015.06.12 01:58:55 -
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Teebeutel wrote: Doing this is slightly problematic if you use monitors with different vertical resolutions though.
Yes I can see that as a problem..... |

Leto Aramaus
Spiritus Draconis Spaceship Bebop
166
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Posted - 2015.06.12 11:39:08 -
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Nana Skalski wrote:Leto Aramaus wrote:but people like me could use hotkeys to change between 10-15 even faster. How faster it would be to identify target of interest when you have 15 different overviews to remember and switch thru them when you need it? I think 5 is enough, have been enough for 12 years. For different activities you can even import the settings now.
Just because 5 is enough for you, doesn't make it enough for everyone. It has been sufficient, for 12 years, sure. But would be so much improved with more tabs, and especially hotkeys for those tabs, or better... hotkeys for entire UI presets like I'm asking for.
Seriously just because you don't need it, or would be slow to switch between them, doesn't mean some of us wouldn't really benefit from it.
Also just have to say it again on my thread... remove local and let us have more than one overview window open.
The UI update we deserve
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Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
70
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Posted - 2015.07.01 21:48:00 -
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Teebeutel wrote: Doing this is slightly problematic if you use monitors with different vertical resolutions though.
At first I read this as you played on vertical monitors (widescreen monitors in portrait mode) and thought "how the hell?" |

Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
1438
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Posted - 2015.07.01 21:54:05 -
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Leto Aramaus wrote:ALSO
A hotkey for D-scan "SCAN"
Please?
We asked. CCP said no to this. Too much potential for key spammers killing the server by dscanning 10000 times a second.
Believe the example was... A basic monitoring program would be used to hit the hockey button repeatedly. If the list changed in anyway, a audio notification would go off, alerting the player that someone was in dscan range.
It removed the need for the player to pay attention to dscan anymore.
This would be used by people in anomalies as well as perimeter scout accounts. A list of people, what they fly when they jumped a gate would be generated, removing the ability for people to hunt.
Yaay!!!!
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