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Enotz
Amarr
Terminus Est Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.10.19 20:56:00 -
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Length 300 meters
Correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldn't that be closer to crusier or battle crusier size?
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.19 21:00:00 -
[32]
Who said they were 300 meters?
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SadisticSavior
Caldari
Edenists
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Posted - 2006.10.19 21:03:00 -
[33]
Here are a few more:
Moa crew - 650
Bantam Crew - 3
Condor Crew - 1
Executioner crew - 1
Osprey Crew - 770
Thorax Crew - 660
Maller Crew - 800
Iteron Crew (Caldari industrial) - 90
Scorpion Crew - 6400
Megathron Crew - 6900
Tempest Crew - 6500
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SadisticSavior
Caldari
Edenists
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Posted - 2006.10.19 21:09:00 -
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Just for comparison, the Enterprise-A from Star Trek (Captain Kirk's ship) had a crew of a little over 200. The Enterprise-E (the Next Generation) had a capacity of over 900. The Enterprise-A was considered a heavy cruiser, and the Enterprise-D was considered a Battleship.
So EVE seems to be a little on the heavy side when it comes to capital ship crews. The Scorpion doesnt look like it could hold 6000 people.
I do think it is cool that the ships have crews. I always thought it seemed kinda stupid to have all these huge ships in the game which are obviously designed for many many people (all the windows and whatnot) and yet have just one guy on the entire ship.
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DefJam101
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Posted - 2006.10.19 21:23:00 -
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Phasers locked Cap'n.
Fire the torpedoes!!!
...although you probably could've just done a barrel roll.
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Araxmas
Caldari
Imperial Space Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.19 21:30:00 -
[36]
Quote:
The Scorpion doesnt look like it could hold 6000 people.
Could of been dwarves and midgets as crew.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.19 21:32:00 -
[37]
Originally by: SadisticSavior
Here are a few more:
Iteron Crew (Caldari industrial) - 90
Caught ya- Iterons are Gallente, not Caldari! Caldari have the Badger.......
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Strikeclone
Caldari
Starscreamers
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Posted - 2006.10.20 01:45:00 -
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Originally by: Marconious
All merchant ships all have crews... pod pilots don't fly them.. us (pod pilots) are the elite so to speak... The SAS/MI 5(UK) or Dunno what america's is FBI i spose
The SAS dont fly any ships in Eve as they dont exsist  however its supprising how many pirate ships just simply explode for no apparent reason.
MI5 would fly crows as they are fast and l33t and only get hit by missiles 
The FBI would fly itereon 5 even when hauling 1 unit of trit as big is better in USA and why do in secrecy and stealth when you can use a vast budget and hollywood lights. 
Strikeclone
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Head of Navel intellygence.
Defender of the enourmous manhood.
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Samirol
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2006.10.20 04:24:00 -
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Originally by: Strikeclone
Originally by: Marconious
All merchant ships all have crews... pod pilots don't fly them.. us (pod pilots) are the elite so to speak... The SAS/MI 5(UK) or Dunno what america's is FBI i spose
The SAS dont fly any ships in Eve as they dont exsist however its supprising how many pirate ships just simply explode for no apparent reason.
MI5 would fly crows as they are fast and l33t and only get hit by missiles
The FBI would fly itereon 5 even when hauling 1 unit of trit as big is better in USA and why do in secrecy and stealth when you can use a vast budget and hollywood lights.
not at all
the FBI would use a freighter to haul it and 50 titans to protect it 
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Beringe
Raptus Regaliter
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Posted - 2006.10.20 04:49:00 -
[40]
Edited by: Beringe on 20/10/2006 04:51:22
Originally by: SadisticSavior
Just for comparison, the Enterprise-A from Star Trek (Captain Kirk's ship) had a crew of a little over 200. The Enterprise-E (the Next Generation) had a capacity of over 900. The Enterprise-A was considered a heavy cruiser, and the Enterprise-D was considered a Battleship.
I believe EvE battleships are much, much larger than Star Trek ships in general.
However, let's not forget that those are old numbers. We'll know for sure once crews become part of gameplay in Kali (?).
Suffice to say that:
Frigates - 1-5
Cruisers - Few hundred
Battleships - Few thousand
I wouldn't say we have much more details than that.
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Bohoba
Caldari
The Dark Angles
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Posted - 2006.10.20 05:24:00 -
[41]
Originally by: SadisticSavior
Here are a few more:
Moa crew - 650
Bantam Crew - 3
Condor Crew - 1
Executioner crew - 1
Osprey Crew - 770
Thorax Crew - 660
Maller Crew - 800
Iteron Crew (Caldari industrial) - 90
Scorpion Crew - 6400
Megathron Crew - 6900
Tempest Crew - 6500
Hey cool I forgot about those BP's thanks
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Peter McGregor
Digital Fury Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.20 07:46:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Ridley Tree
Thats a frigate folks, give or take 190 man or a bit less crew. This frigate was also designed bottom-up to reduce the number of men needed. Most of comparable size need around 260 or so people. Not very many windows people.
Uhm. Yes. Modern frigates are quite large. So?
From Wikipedia (not the most reliable source but should do):
Frigate is a name which has been used for several distinct types of warships at different times. It has referred to a variety of ship roles and sizes. From the 18th century, it referred to a ship smaller and faster than a ship-of-the-line, used for patrolling and escort work rather than fighting fleet actions. In modern military terminology, the definition of a frigate is a warship intended to protect other warships and merchant marine ships and as anti-submarine warfare (ASW) combatants for amphibious expeditionary forces, underway replenishment groups, and merchant convoys. However, many ships known as frigates have more closely resembled other classes of ship, including everything ranging from a corvette to a destroyer, cruiser or even a battleship. The variation comes from a number of sources, such as the era, the particulars of battlefield roles, and the standards of a given country.
So, as you can see, the size of a frigate is not really an absolute.
Oh, and the Millenium Falcon was neither a frigate, nor a fighter - it was a bloody cargo ship (Corellian TRANSPORT, yes?)
I believe that the story where there's no crewmembers is the most plausible at the current state of game mechanics and environment. Not counting the sub-sentient clones of course .
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evistin
Multiverse Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.20 07:49:00 -
[43]
This would make a most useful add-on to Plantery Interaction. The ability to "grow" a crew for your ships on planets.
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Peter McGregor
Digital Fury Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.20 07:52:00 -
[44]
Originally by: evistin
This would make a most useful add-on to Plantery Interaction. The ability to "grow" a crew for your ships on planets.
Begun the Clone War has? ;)
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Lucca Medici
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.20 07:57:00 -
[45]
/me looks puzzled
Why do you all want to think you have a crew on board?
Who the hell would sign up to a ship where only the captain has a lifeboat?
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Peter McGregor
Digital Fury Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.20 08:15:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Lucca Medici
/me looks puzzled
Who the hell would sign up to a ship where only the captain has a lifeboat?
That's why those clones are SUB-sentient :p
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Kldraina
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Posted - 2006.10.20 08:37:00 -
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I'm fairly certain there are still crews in EVE. You can buy an average man's life for just a few thousand isk. With the enormous gap between the rich and the poor in EVE, the lives of the poor mean nothing to the rich. Part of the reason I focus on defense when building my ships. I'd like to get out of combat with as many people still alive as possible. |
LaCoHa
Caldari Deep Space Navy
Caldari Deep Space Industral
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Posted - 2006.10.20 08:59:00 -
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just by reading this topic i lost the one or two cool points that I had been working so hard on.
Thanks Evistin.
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Robert Dobbs
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.20 10:01:00 -
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The way I see it.
1) You are sitting at your computer alone. Your ship has a crew of one.
2) You are sitting at your computer while receiving fellatio from your girlfriend. She is providing a very important service. Your ship has a crew of two.
3) You have all your mates round for beers, you get totally ratassed and your mates all crowd round the computer and manage to attack concord. Your ship has a crew of 12. 8. 6. 4 2. boom.
4) You are from china. Your ship has a crew of 0. As do your other 10,000 accounts.
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gryf
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Posted - 2006.10.20 10:26:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Reiisha
Pods don't replace the entire crew of the ship, they only replace the bridge crew to increase response times and control in general.
wow could you imagine the response times of firing a single weapon before the pod invention in a fleet battle?
musta took 2-3 hours for the actual gun to fire if these new pods have increased response time.
see even lag can be rp'ed
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Twilight Moon
Minmatar
Malicious Intentions
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Posted - 2006.10.20 11:17:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Enotz
Quote:
Length 300 meters
Correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldn't that be closer to crusier or battle crusier size?
Given that the Tempest is over a kilometer long.....no, not really.
...on the other hand using a banana might be a viable alternative.
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Muran Corrod
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Posted - 2006.10.20 11:34:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Lucca Medici
/me looks puzzled
Why do you all want to think you have a crew on board?
Who the hell would sign up to a ship where only the captain has a lifeboat?
Im sure some of them find their way into the lootcans, thats why I find marines and such after I kill pirates.
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Peter McGregor
Digital Fury Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.20 11:44:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Muran Corrod
Im sure some of them find their way into the lootcans, thats why I find marines and such after I kill pirates.
That's because NPC pirates don't use pods. Only named ones do. Possibly.
Or not.
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Pottsey
Gallente
Acme Shipping Inc
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Posted - 2006.10.20 11:55:00 -
[54]
Edited by: Pottsey on 20/10/2006 11:56:10
Anything up to Crusier size can be flown without a crew and only the Pod. The crew numbers in the pics are for none Pod ships. Most people still have a small crew in Crusiers but it is possbile to fly without any. Bigger then crusier size always have crew.
Also when you do have crew you control them. When the gunner is firing you take over his mind and controle him like a drone.
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Keleth
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Posted - 2006.10.20 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: evistin
Just wondering,
How many people did you need to crew the ships of the different sizes before the inventition of pod technologies.
Probably only somewhat less than it takes now. You're not in that ship alone, you know, unless you're piloting a shuttle or small frigate. One of the EVE Chronicles short pieces states that an Apoc *with* a pod pilot takes over 6000 crew to run.
Keleth
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Keleth
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Posted - 2006.10.20 16:08:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Kldraina
I'm fairly certain there are still crews in EVE. You can buy an average man's life for just a few thousand isk. With the enormous gap between the rich and the poor in EVE, the lives of the poor mean nothing to the rich. Part of the reason I focus on defense when building my ships. I'd like to get out of combat with as many people still alive as possible.
This is absolutely and exactly right. Read "Hands of a Killer" in the EVE Chronicles.
Keleth
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Leverton
Caldari
AWE Corporation
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.20 16:11:00 -
[57]
Edited by: Leverton on 20/10/2006 16:11:49
Originally by: Lucca Medici
/me looks puzzled
Why do you all want to think you have a crew on board?
Who the hell would sign up to a ship where only the captain has a lifeboat?
If you read "Hands of a Murderer," you'll see that crew members are paid for their service, but often end up dying anyways.
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Khabok
Dark Lancers
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Posted - 2006.10.20 16:20:00 -
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Click to read "Hands of a Killer"
If you haven't read the Chronicles yet, you have no business arguing one way or another. Especially if your arguments are blatantly wrong.
Khab
There are only four things in life.The first one is Love: Cherish that one, and keep it safe, for the other three are Fear, Hatred, and Sorrow. |
Firequill
Gallente
The Black Ops
Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.20 17:21:00 -
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Edited by: Firequill on 20/10/2006 17:23:21
Ammar captain: Fire Torpedoes!
Minmatar slave in charge of reloading the tubes:
"gulp!.. uhh, sir we have a problem.."
Captain: What is it now?
Slave:
"its Joe sir, my room-mate, he fell into the tube sir."
Captain: So? Fire i said!
*Splat*
And thusly the ammar empire finally found a use for those hobos in the cargo-hold and figured out how to cut costs on the navy's budget for munitions. 
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