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evistin
Multiverse Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.19 10:24:00 -
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Just wondering,
How many people did you need to crew the ships of the different sizes before the inventition of pod technologies. -----------
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Roshan longshot
Gallente Order of the Arrow
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Posted - 2006.10.19 10:28:00 -
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Thousands ....
Sombody will link some old information shortly, so just hang out.
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Marconious
Caldari Mega-Deth
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Posted - 2006.10.19 10:35:00 -
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All merchant ships all have crews... pod pilots don't fly them.. us (pod pilots) are the elite so to speak... The SAS/MI 5(UK) or Dunno what america's is FBI i spose
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darkmancer
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Posted - 2006.10.19 10:53:00 -
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The invention of PODs didnt affect crew numbers much(Read the "hands of a killer" in the story section. All ships are crew'd by hundreds (frigates) to thousands of people, it's just not represented in game for simplicity.
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Taaketa Frist
The Praxis Initiative Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.19 11:37:00 -
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Actually.
The PODs elimated the need for a "command" crew.
Every ship you fly still has a engineering crew and presumably within some storyline context security teams.
All the guns you fire, modules you run everything had to run before via a crew member or team of crew memebers to make sure it was functioning correctly and to instruct the computer. But now as you ARE the central processor(ships computer) you don't need the direct intervention of a crew member.
Frigates are actually only a max of 5 man crew (which no longer have crews as that was mainly a command crew anyway). Cruisers are between 30-100's I believe then battleships enter the thousands. Titans... well we're probably talking millions. --------------
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Benco97
Gallente Fedo Appreciation Group
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Posted - 2006.10.19 11:59:00 -
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basic crew numbers havn't been altered much I should think, you'll still need maintenance on the bigger ships. However I think there are some ships out there that storyline wise you are th eonly person in them, shuttles for one but the smaller frigates such as Bursts and Navitas, there may be windows but that is because the hulls are a relic from when you used to have a bridge crew.
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Reiisha
Frontier Technologies
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Posted - 2006.10.19 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: evistin Just wondering,
How many people did you need to crew the ships of the different sizes before the inventition of pod technologies.
Pods don't replace the entire crew of the ship, they only replace the bridge crew to increase response times and control in general.
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Peter McGregor
Digital Fury Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.19 13:16:00 -
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Edited by: Peter McGregor on 19/10/2006 13:18:56 I enjoy my own theory: sub-sentient clones.
Clones of the pilot, preferably, with limited inteligence and few physiological needs. And with wetwired augmentations, allowing them to perform their tasks efficiently. And, of course, the pilot has the option of entering the "mind" of such a sub-sentient clone, to see the corridors of his ship with the clone's eyes. That would probably lower the cost of crews - after all, who'd like to be a crewmember of a starship considering the rate they pop? ;)
And the pilot has a stack of special clones, which he/she can use to enter stations, planets etc. Those clones would be sub-sentient as well, unless activated by the pilot, but otherwise fully functional in ALL areas :)
I'm even thinking of writing a short story involving those sub-sentient clones, but it's going to take a while.
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Zissou
5 November
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Posted - 2006.10.19 14:47:00 -
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As a rough guide, this is one of the early pics that shows the crew size for the Raven.
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Nicocat
Caldari New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.10.19 15:00:00 -
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Hmm. If Bships have so many crew members, then people must **** and make babies all day, every day, 24/7. And POSs contain infinite numbers of people to crew new ships.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.19 15:25:00 -
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*cough*
Bring on Crews as a part of the game!!!!!
*/end cough*
I typed this a couple of days ago, but it bares repeating: I think the various ships sshould have slots for special "officers" to be installed, imbuing you with a ship related bonus. Frigates and Destroers might not have any (too small), Cruisers and BC have 1, BS's 2, Dreads and Carriers 3, motherships 4, Titans 5. Basic(ish) ones should be available from NPC vendors (w00t, more ISK sinks!) and you could get special faction officers from special loot drops and mission rewards.
Bearing in mind they're already coding Rigs, I imagine it would be pretty easy to work this into the code.
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SadisticSavior
Caldari Edenists
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Posted - 2006.10.19 15:38:00 -
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Quote: The invention of PODs didnt affect crew numbers much(Read the "hands of a killer" in the story section. All ships are crew'd by hundreds (frigates) to thousands of people
heh heh...hundreds?
The Millenium Falcon was an example of a frigate. Frigates have a crew of around a dozen at most IMO....they are not capital ships. They are basically large shuttles.
I'd like to know where all those hundreds of people are stuffed on a Condor or a Rifter, heh heh
Quote: As a rough guide, this is one of the early pics that shows the crew size for the Raven.
Awesome, thank you.
Quote: Bearing in mind they're already coding Rigs, I imagine it would be pretty easy to work this into the code.
What are rigs?
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lofty29
Praxiteles Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.19 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: SadisticSavior
Quote: The invention of PODs didnt affect crew numbers much(Read the "hands of a killer" in the story section. All ships are crew'd by hundreds (frigates) to thousands of people
heh heh...hundreds?
The Millenium Falcon was an example of a frigate. Frigates have a crew of around a dozen at most IMO....they are not capital ships. They are basically large shuttles.
Actually, the milennium falcon is more like a fighter drone. But hundreds in a frig is excessive, tbh
Originally by: SadisticSavior
Quote: Bearing in mind they're already coding Rigs, I imagine it would be pretty easy to work this into the code.
What are rigs?
They will be ship-modifiers so to speak, created using materials from new 'Wrecks' (replacing jet-cans, though normal loot can still be extracted with no skills). They will modify a certain attribute of your ship, sort of like a ship-implant. IIRC, T1 ships get 1 slot, T2 get 2 slots, and capital get 2 slots also. Id <3 a +5% damage bonus on my thron (think uber-tank + 950 DPS with t2 stuff)  ---
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Jack Atarius
Aurora Empire Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
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Posted - 2006.10.19 16:26:00 -
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It would be interesting to be able to "man" one ship, say a Raven for this example, where you would have corp mates at the guns or whatnot. But it would be more interesting and probably more feasible to impliment manned fighters. Put it in a*****pit setting (they need that view in-game anyway imho) and only allow carrier-sized fighters to be manned. I think that would make for some really amazing carrier battles, especially if you make the SP to train fighters something that would take time, even for long-time players. *shrug* Just would add to the idea of crews in ships. --------- There is a weird power in a word... it deals destruction through time as the bullets go flying through space. ~Joseph Conrad
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.10.19 16:56:00 -
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If frigates have crews, then why do they (most of them) have what looks like a 1-man*****pit canopy? Yes, they were retrofitted to accomodate a pod pilot, but I'm pretty sure the original versions were single-person ships.
Destroyers probably have a modest crew, and I'm sure cruisers and larger have quite a few people rattling around the halls. _
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lofty29
Praxiteles Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.19 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Devilish Ledoux If frigates have crews, then why do they (most of them) have what looks like a 1-man*****pit canopy? Yes, they were retrofitted to accomodate a pod pilot, but I'm pretty sure the original versions were single-person ships.
Destroyers probably have a modest crew, and I'm sure cruisers and larger have quite a few people rattling around the halls.
Because crews dont just sit in the command-deck looking pretty? They sit in the engine room, weapon bays, med-bay (WE LOST SPOCK!!1!) and so on, actually making the parts of the ship work. ---
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Ryjanna
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Posted - 2006.10.19 17:31:00 -
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Let's keep in mind the day and age here. Jumping between stars is a non-event. Why would biological beings, clone or otherwise, even be needed? Could a robot/android with a decent AI do the same tasks? Lets keep in mind that keeping a body from flattening out on a wall, or air to breath, or food and water, or even sleeping, recreation and restrooms... would take a bundle of resources. The way I understood it, even the big birds only have 1 human crew, everything else is done by subroutines. You click/think, it goes. Besides, crew pay and benifits would drain the wallet too quickly. |

SadisticSavior
Caldari Edenists
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Posted - 2006.10.19 17:33:00 -
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Quote: If frigates have crews, then why do they (most of them) have what looks like a 1-man*****pit canopy?
Some of them look larger. Even the Ibis has what looks like windows along the hull. The canopy is not the entire ship.
The Millenium falcon was the same way...it also has a smll canopy, but it has a lot of interior space as well.
Quote: Actually, the milennium falcon is more like a fighter drone.
In the movies it is referred to as a frigate-sized vessel. It is used for hauling cargo, not as a fighter. A fighter (especially a drone) would not have (or need) a real cargo bay.
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Deez Nuttzy
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Posted - 2006.10.19 17:49:00 -
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you guys are all wrong. there is only 1 pod pilot, no one else is there except for your elves. These aren't the run of the mill elves like, hobbit and their not like the elves up north helping st. nick make toys for all the littles ****s in the world. they are more like smurf type elves but instead of being blue, they our green, with orange eyes, sort of like little irish elves or leprecauns just with no gold. but boy watch out cause if you give them quake they turn into those little devil baztards from gremlins and wreck your ship. this has always been the way before pods and after pods. the pods are just there to protect you from disgruntles party elves that will self distruct your ship so you can fly back to staion and get another ship. before them you just ended up as a frozen corpse drifting through space with the echos of laughing elves ringing in your ear 
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Ridley Tree
Crimson Knights Trade Federation Thundering Mantis
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Posted - 2006.10.19 17:52:00 -
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Whatever the movie might say, the movie is wrong. The Mel Falcon is more akin to a big fighter than to a real frigate.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/images/ffg-12-phlip_1.jpg
Thats a frigate folks, give or take 190 man or a bit less crew. This frigate was also designed bottom-up to reduce the number of men needed. Most of comparable size need around 260 or so people. Not very many windows people.
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Deez Nuttzy
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Posted - 2006.10.19 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ridley Tree Whatever the movie might say, the movie is wrong. The Mel Falcon is more akin to a big fighter than to a real frigate.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/images/ffg-12-phlip_1.jpg
Thats a frigate folks, give or take 190 man or a bit less crew. This frigate was also designed bottom-up to reduce the number of men needed. Most of comparable size need around 260 or so people. Not very many windows people.
omg when did we get water in space, and do we still use lines to type up our ships in stations, cause that changes the whole perplexity of this question, tractor beams are easy, rope is another, crap the damn elves are chewing through my lines and now I am adrift being pulled into the sun. oh crap, my cokpit is melting, aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
pop
RIP
Deez Nuttzy She was a good little nut, definately went before her time
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Dolly Parton
Amarr Dark Order Enterprises Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.19 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Deez Nuttzy
Originally by: Ridley Tree Whatever the movie might say, the movie is wrong. The Mel Falcon is more akin to a big fighter than to a real frigate.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/images/ffg-12-phlip_1.jpg
Thats a frigate folks, give or take 190 man or a bit less crew. This frigate was also designed bottom-up to reduce the number of men needed. Most of comparable size need around 260 or so people. Not very many windows people.
omg when did we get water in space, and do we still use lines to type up our ships in stations, cause that changes the whole perplexity of this question, tractor beams are easy, rope is another, crap the damn elves are chewing through my lines and now I am adrift being pulled into the sun. oh crap, my cokpit is melting, aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
pop
RIP
Deez Nuttzy She was a good little nut, definately went before her time
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SadisticSavior
Caldari Edenists
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Posted - 2006.10.19 18:19:00 -
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Edited by: SadisticSavior on 19/10/2006 18:20:11
Quote: Thats a frigate folks, give or take 190 man or a bit less crew.
Even if we accept that standard, it still doesnt explain where exactly you are cramming that 190-man crew in a Condor or a Rifter. Does the pilot have a Bag of Holding from Dungeons and Dragons or something? heh heh
And 190 men still isnt "hundreds" plural.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.19 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Ridley Tree Whatever the movie might say, the movie is wrong. The Mel Falcon is more akin to a big fighter than to a real frigate.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/images/ffg-12-phlip_1.jpg
Thats a frigate folks, give or take 190 man or a bit less crew. This frigate was also designed bottom-up to reduce the number of men needed. Most of comparable size need around 260 or so people. Not very many windows people.
We are rather assuming that ships in EVE are at all comparable to similarly named ships in RL. It does take place unsecified thouasands of year in the future, in an isolated galaxy- theres no reason an EVE frigate has to be related to RL frigates.
Case and point, in RL a Battleship is a piece of off shore artillery, more than anything else- this would make them analogous to an EVE Dreadnought (indeed, "Dreadnought" was the name of the first modern Battleship class). EVE Battleships are more akin to RL Cruisers in their role and purpose.
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Teldar Novastorm
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Posted - 2006.10.19 19:35:00 -
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Actually the Millenium Falcon wasnt even CLOSE to frigate sized. If you want an accurate scale of sizes, the Falcon was docked to a Frigate at the end of "Empire" Nebulon-B Frigate over 300 man skeleton Crew, and around 800 to fully man it. When you consider scout drones are the size of what we would consider to be a single seat fighter, its not hard to imagine a frigate with several hundred crew. |

Za Po
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.19 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Nicocat Hmm. If Bships have so many crew members, then people must **** and make babies all day, every day, 24/7.
Well, someone is doing, somewhere, at all times. Lots of people, in fact. The EVE galaxy has thousands of habitable planets; from the prime fiction, I get the impression that Empire planets at least are rather crowded, so we have trillions of humans in the setting. From "Ruthless", I gather that lots of planetbound folk live in abject poverty. From that and "Hands of a Killer", it is clear that human life in EVE is worth zilch. So: why people and not robots? Easy: people are cheaper.
Yes, thousands die every time you pop a BS, and no, noone gives a damn about it. They signed a contract, after all. All the people that get killed daily by the hundred thousand or so pod captains in existance are hardly a blip on the cluster's demographics, and PCs are too rare and precious to the Empires to blame them for it. This is not a "nice" setting.
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Veneth
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Posted - 2006.10.19 20:00:00 -
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Edited by: Veneth on 19/10/2006 20:00:35 actually like the raven pic Zissou posted they used to have frig pics. all the frigs except the larger ones (Punisher, and Probe are the only ones I can rember) had a crew of 1. the big frigs had crews of 3, not very large Frigates
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.19 20:12:00 -
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Edited by: Patch86 on 19/10/2006 20:13:37 Et voila?
And for the record:
1 2 3
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Detavi Kade
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Posted - 2006.10.19 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: Teldar Novastorm Actually the Millenium Falcon wasnt even CLOSE to frigate sized. If you want an accurate scale of sizes, the Falcon was docked to a Frigate at the end of "Empire" Nebulon-B Frigate over 300 man skeleton Crew, and around 800 to fully man it. When you consider scout drones are the size of what we would consider to be a single seat fighter, its not hard to imagine a frigate with several hundred crew.
THIS is what I've always thought a space-based frigate to be. Medium size with decent firepower. Medical frigates would be like a mobile hospital.
As for the frigates in EVE, I always considered them to be...battle-yachts, or slightly larger than the snub fighters in Star Wars.
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SadisticSavior
Caldari Edenists
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Posted - 2006.10.19 20:43:00 -
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Quote: Et voila?
And for the record:
1 2 3
Thank you. The argument is over, heh heh
That is pretty much what I expected. It is consistent with what the ships actually look like.
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Enotz
Amarr Terminus Est Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.10.19 20:56:00 -
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Quote: Length 300 meters
Correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldn't that be closer to crusier or battle crusier size?
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.19 21:00:00 -
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Who said they were 300 meters?
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SadisticSavior
Caldari Edenists
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Posted - 2006.10.19 21:03:00 -
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Here are a few more:
Moa crew - 650
Bantam Crew - 3
Condor Crew - 1
Executioner crew - 1
Osprey Crew - 770
Thorax Crew - 660
Maller Crew - 800
Iteron Crew (Caldari industrial) - 90
Scorpion Crew - 6400
Megathron Crew - 6900
Tempest Crew - 6500
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SadisticSavior
Caldari Edenists
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Posted - 2006.10.19 21:09:00 -
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Just for comparison, the Enterprise-A from Star Trek (Captain Kirk's ship) had a crew of a little over 200. The Enterprise-E (the Next Generation) had a capacity of over 900. The Enterprise-A was considered a heavy cruiser, and the Enterprise-D was considered a Battleship.
So EVE seems to be a little on the heavy side when it comes to capital ship crews. The Scorpion doesnt look like it could hold 6000 people.
I do think it is cool that the ships have crews. I always thought it seemed kinda stupid to have all these huge ships in the game which are obviously designed for many many people (all the windows and whatnot) and yet have just one guy on the entire ship.
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DefJam101
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Posted - 2006.10.19 21:23:00 -
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Phasers locked Cap'n. Fire the torpedoes!!! ...although you probably could've just done a barrel roll. ***
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Araxmas
Caldari Imperial Space Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.19 21:30:00 -
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Quote: The Scorpion doesnt look like it could hold 6000 people.
Could of been dwarves and midgets as crew. --------
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.19 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: SadisticSavior Here are a few more:
Iteron Crew (Caldari industrial) - 90
Caught ya- Iterons are Gallente, not Caldari! Caldari have the Badger.......
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Strikeclone
Caldari Starscreamers
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Posted - 2006.10.20 01:45:00 -
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Originally by: Marconious All merchant ships all have crews... pod pilots don't fly them.. us (pod pilots) are the elite so to speak... The SAS/MI 5(UK) or Dunno what america's is FBI i spose
The SAS dont fly any ships in Eve as they dont exsist however its supprising how many pirate ships just simply explode for no apparent reason.
MI5 would fly crows as they are fast and l33t and only get hit by missiles 
The FBI would fly itereon 5 even when hauling 1 unit of trit as big is better in USA and why do in secrecy and stealth when you can use a vast budget and hollywood lights. 
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Samirol
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2006.10.20 04:24:00 -
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Originally by: Strikeclone
Originally by: Marconious All merchant ships all have crews... pod pilots don't fly them.. us (pod pilots) are the elite so to speak... The SAS/MI 5(UK) or Dunno what america's is FBI i spose
The SAS dont fly any ships in Eve as they dont exsist however its supprising how many pirate ships just simply explode for no apparent reason.
MI5 would fly crows as they are fast and l33t and only get hit by missiles 
The FBI would fly itereon 5 even when hauling 1 unit of trit as big is better in USA and why do in secrecy and stealth when you can use a vast budget and hollywood lights. 
not at all
the FBI would use a freighter to haul it and 50 titans to protect it 
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Beringe
Raptus Regaliter
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Posted - 2006.10.20 04:49:00 -
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Edited by: Beringe on 20/10/2006 04:51:22
Originally by: SadisticSavior Just for comparison, the Enterprise-A from Star Trek (Captain Kirk's ship) had a crew of a little over 200. The Enterprise-E (the Next Generation) had a capacity of over 900. The Enterprise-A was considered a heavy cruiser, and the Enterprise-D was considered a Battleship.
I believe EvE battleships are much, much larger than Star Trek ships in general.
However, let's not forget that those are old numbers. We'll know for sure once crews become part of gameplay in Kali (?).
Suffice to say that:
Frigates - 1-5 Cruisers - Few hundred Battleships - Few thousand
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Bohoba
Caldari The Dark Angles
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Posted - 2006.10.20 05:24:00 -
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Originally by: SadisticSavior Here are a few more:
Moa crew - 650
Bantam Crew - 3
Condor Crew - 1
Executioner crew - 1
Osprey Crew - 770
Thorax Crew - 660
Maller Crew - 800
Iteron Crew (Caldari industrial) - 90
Scorpion Crew - 6400
Megathron Crew - 6900
Tempest Crew - 6500
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Peter McGregor
Digital Fury Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.20 07:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ridley Tree
Thats a frigate folks, give or take 190 man or a bit less crew. This frigate was also designed bottom-up to reduce the number of men needed. Most of comparable size need around 260 or so people. Not very many windows people.
Uhm. Yes. Modern frigates are quite large. So? From Wikipedia (not the most reliable source but should do): Frigate is a name which has been used for several distinct types of warships at different times. It has referred to a variety of ship roles and sizes. From the 18th century, it referred to a ship smaller and faster than a ship-of-the-line, used for patrolling and escort work rather than fighting fleet actions. In modern military terminology, the definition of a frigate is a warship intended to protect other warships and merchant marine ships and as anti-submarine warfare (ASW) combatants for amphibious expeditionary forces, underway replenishment groups, and merchant convoys. However, many ships known as frigates have more closely resembled other classes of ship, including everything ranging from a corvette to a destroyer, cruiser or even a battleship. The variation comes from a number of sources, such as the era, the particulars of battlefield roles, and the standards of a given country.
So, as you can see, the size of a frigate is not really an absolute.
Oh, and the Millenium Falcon was neither a frigate, nor a fighter - it was a bloody cargo ship (Corellian TRANSPORT, yes?)
I believe that the story where there's no crewmembers is the most plausible at the current state of game mechanics and environment. Not counting the sub-sentient clones of course .
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evistin
Multiverse Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.20 07:49:00 -
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This would make a most useful add-on to Plantery Interaction. The ability to "grow" a crew for your ships on planets. -----------
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Peter McGregor
Digital Fury Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.20 07:52:00 -
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Originally by: evistin This would make a most useful add-on to Plantery Interaction. The ability to "grow" a crew for your ships on planets.
Begun the Clone War has? ;)
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Lucca Medici
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.20 07:57:00 -
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/me looks puzzled
Why do you all want to think you have a crew on board?
Who the hell would sign up to a ship where only the captain has a lifeboat?
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Peter McGregor
Digital Fury Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.20 08:15:00 -
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Originally by: Lucca Medici /me looks puzzled Who the hell would sign up to a ship where only the captain has a lifeboat?
That's why those clones are SUB-sentient :p
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Kldraina
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Posted - 2006.10.20 08:37:00 -
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I'm fairly certain there are still crews in EVE. You can buy an average man's life for just a few thousand isk. With the enormous gap between the rich and the poor in EVE, the lives of the poor mean nothing to the rich. Part of the reason I focus on defense when building my ships. I'd like to get out of combat with as many people still alive as possible. |

LaCoHa
Caldari Deep Space Navy Caldari Deep Space Industral
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Posted - 2006.10.20 08:59:00 -
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just by reading this topic i lost the one or two cool points that I had been working so hard on.
Thanks Evistin.

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Robert Dobbs
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.20 10:01:00 -
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The way I see it.
1) You are sitting at your computer alone. Your ship has a crew of one.
2) You are sitting at your computer while receiving fellatio from your girlfriend. She is providing a very important service. Your ship has a crew of two.
3) You have all your mates round for beers, you get totally ratassed and your mates all crowd round the computer and manage to attack concord. Your ship has a crew of 12. 8. 6. 4 2. boom.
4) You are from china. Your ship has a crew of 0. As do your other 10,000 accounts. -
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gryf
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Posted - 2006.10.20 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Reiisha
Pods don't replace the entire crew of the ship, they only replace the bridge crew to increase response times and control in general.
wow could you imagine the response times of firing a single weapon before the pod invention in a fleet battle?
musta took 2-3 hours for the actual gun to fire if these new pods have increased response time.
see even lag can be rp'ed
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Twilight Moon
Minmatar Malicious Intentions
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Posted - 2006.10.20 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Enotz
Quote: Length 300 meters
Correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldn't that be closer to crusier or battle crusier size?
Given that the Tempest is over a kilometer long.....no, not really. 
...on the other hand using a banana might be a viable alternative.
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Muran Corrod
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Posted - 2006.10.20 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Lucca Medici /me looks puzzled
Why do you all want to think you have a crew on board?
Who the hell would sign up to a ship where only the captain has a lifeboat?
Im sure some of them find their way into the lootcans, thats why I find marines and such after I kill pirates.
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Peter McGregor
Digital Fury Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.20 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Muran Corrod
Im sure some of them find their way into the lootcans, thats why I find marines and such after I kill pirates.
That's because NPC pirates don't use pods. Only named ones do. Possibly.
Or not.
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Pottsey
Gallente Acme Shipping Inc
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Posted - 2006.10.20 11:55:00 -
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Edited by: Pottsey on 20/10/2006 11:56:10 Anything up to Crusier size can be flown without a crew and only the Pod. The crew numbers in the pics are for none Pod ships. Most people still have a small crew in Crusiers but it is possbile to fly without any. Bigger then crusier size always have crew.
Also when you do have crew you control them. When the gunner is firing you take over his mind and controle him like a drone. Passive shield tanking guide click here |

Keleth
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Posted - 2006.10.20 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: evistin Just wondering,
How many people did you need to crew the ships of the different sizes before the inventition of pod technologies.
Probably only somewhat less than it takes now. You're not in that ship alone, you know, unless you're piloting a shuttle or small frigate. One of the EVE Chronicles short pieces states that an Apoc *with* a pod pilot takes over 6000 crew to run.
Keleth
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Keleth
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Posted - 2006.10.20 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: Kldraina I'm fairly certain there are still crews in EVE. You can buy an average man's life for just a few thousand isk. With the enormous gap between the rich and the poor in EVE, the lives of the poor mean nothing to the rich. Part of the reason I focus on defense when building my ships. I'd like to get out of combat with as many people still alive as possible.
This is absolutely and exactly right. Read "Hands of a Killer" in the EVE Chronicles.
Keleth
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Leverton
Caldari AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.20 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: Leverton on 20/10/2006 16:11:49
Originally by: Lucca Medici /me looks puzzled
Why do you all want to think you have a crew on board?
Who the hell would sign up to a ship where only the captain has a lifeboat?
If you read "Hands of a Murderer," you'll see that crew members are paid for their service, but often end up dying anyways. -- The universe is governed by the aggressive use of force. Hows this for a little note! Oh, and YARRRRR!! - Petwraith I prefer the term RAWR - Xorus |

Khabok
Dark Lancers
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Posted - 2006.10.20 16:20:00 -
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Click to read "Hands of a Killer"
If you haven't read the Chronicles yet, you have no business arguing one way or another. Especially if your arguments are blatantly wrong.
Khab
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Firequill
Gallente The Black Ops Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.20 17:21:00 -
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Edited by: Firequill on 20/10/2006 17:23:21 Ammar captain: Fire Torpedoes!
Minmatar slave in charge of reloading the tubes: "gulp!.. uhh, sir we have a problem.."
Captain: What is it now?
Slave: "its Joe sir, my room-mate, he fell into the tube sir."
Captain: So? Fire i said!
*Splat*
And thusly the ammar empire finally found a use for those hobos in the cargo-hold and figured out how to cut costs on the navy's budget for munitions. 
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