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Khyan
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Posted - 2003.11.02 12:32:00 -
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and now all my stuff in the corp hangar is gone ... all gone :(
is this normal, even after it said that all the stuff was going to be given to all the shareholders (i was the last and only member of my corp), that my precious loot is ALL gone.
seriously, i lost alot of lasers, turrets, blueprints. now that i think of it, i lost everything. Only thing i have is my ship without any modules and 7000isk.
I petitioned, but after 3-4 days still no answer.
anybody got a similar problem? this is really starting to **** me off, all these weird after-effects of 'doing stuff'...
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PandaBoy
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Posted - 2003.11.02 12:52:00 -
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So, if i understand you right, you closed your former corp with loads of assets in corp hangar, and you thought they would just *pop* up again in your new corp hangar ?!
Consider yourself lucky if you get those items back.

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var'ulfur
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Posted - 2003.11.02 14:41:00 -
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lol it not too hard to use the select all feature and transfer all your corp hanger to your own hanger shame on you |

EveJunkie
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Posted - 2003.11.02 15:51:00 -
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It does actually say in the manual that when a corp is disbanded the assets are sold and the money split between the shareholders. Of course the manual is useless but it still says that. I tested it when I closed one of my corps by leaving a few items in the hanger and sure enough I didnt get anything for the sale. |

Skaz
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Posted - 2003.11.02 18:00:00 -
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ouch ouch ouch......still....why???
I'm guessing the responsee that you'll get from the GM's will be "We don't replace items lost through your own stupidity, have a good day"
still ouch   
"No, I'm not alt.....even if I have been in Pator Tech School for 2 years..." |

Khyan
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Posted - 2003.11.02 18:10:00 -
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Edited by: Khyan on 02/11/2003 18:13:59 well if that's the response im gonna get, then they have lost another customer...
its no fun losing EVERYTHING, and i mean EVERYTHING that i start collecting since the game went live. must be like 30-40 million in weapons & ammo alone that was in there. Not to mention all the rare items i saved.
i tell ya, if it says clearly that everything is recycled i would have flown back and dragged it all in my personal hangar but the game doesn't say anything like that.
and for you clowns ; no, you can't have my stuff cause i don't have any stuff anymore...
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.11.02 18:10:00 -
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Quote: So, if i understand you right, you closed your former corp with loads of assets in corp hangar, and you thought they would just *pop* up again in your new corp hangar ?!
And why not? Ammo pops into your hangar when you remove a turret. Items pop into your hangar when you cancel a sell order.
The key to a good interface is consistency. If it happens sometime it should happen all the time.
In addition, nothing should ever just "disappear," regardless of action taken. If you recycle a ship with something in the hold, it should appear in your hangar, etc. Anything else is just lazy coding.
Veruna Caseti Ishukone |

Noriko Te'Len
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Posted - 2003.11.02 18:35:00 -
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PIE too cheap to fork out for a replacement ship?
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.11.02 18:37:00 -
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Quote: PIE too cheap to fork out for a replacement ship?
Ship? What the fark are you talking about? Do you even read the threads you reply to?
Veruna Caseti Ishukone |

Chucky
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Posted - 2003.11.02 18:38:00 -
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About a month ago someone did the same thing, no word if he ever got anything back. It's best to never asume anything.
... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture. |

Noriko Te'Len
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Posted - 2003.11.02 18:39:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: PIE too cheap to fork out for a replacement ship?
Ship? What the fark are you talking about? Do you even read the threads you reply to?
If he gets a replacement ship, he can start to build his way back up.
Do you ever think of what someone means before you reply to them?
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.11.02 18:52:00 -
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Quote: If he gets a replacement ship, he can start to build his way back up.
Do you ever think of what someone means before you reply to them?
Maybe before you continue this argument you should actually go back and read the thread.
Quote: Only thing i have is my ship
Hmm, sure sounds like he needs a replacement ship to me!
Quote: he can start to build his way back up.
The very fact that he has to do this because of a silly game mechanic is the very reason he's upset.
Seriously, why post if you have nothing to offer but a silly troll that doesn't even make sense in the context of the thread?
Then people wonder why nothing ever gets discussed on these forums, and why the developers don't pay any attention to them.
Gah.
Veruna Caseti Ishukone |

Akunosh Ryo
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Posted - 2003.11.02 19:28:00 -
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Edited by: Akunosh Ryo on 02/11/2003 19:29:31 -sigh- There's that great Amarrian intelligence at work.
Otherwise. That really sucks. Sorry to hear it. A once retired pilot, now, once again helping those that fight the good fight. |

Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2003.11.03 01:37:00 -
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Quote:
I'm guessing the responsee that you'll get from the GM's will be "We don't replace items lost through your own stupidity, have a good day"
You might reasonably claim it's an act of stupidity to believe something you read in the manual; but even so, if he was told (by the manual) that he'd have the stuff transferred to his hangar, then it damn well better HAD be transferred to his hangar. This sort of thing is inexcusable.
_______ "Soon" is an ancient Icelandic word meaning "some time before the next Ice Age." |

GraveDigger
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Posted - 2003.11.03 02:20:00 -
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why, in gods name did you not put everything in your personal hanger before you ended your corp?
heres your sign "stupid"
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Elentari
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Posted - 2003.11.03 03:41:00 -
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Edited by: Elentari on 03/11/2003 03:43:09 HOW TO SOLVE THIS ISSUE:
I had this problem recently. Just petition it to a GM, tell him everything. He'll escalate it so that a Dev takes a look at it, and you'll get all your stuff back.
As for all you people yelling 'stupid' and so forth, before you select "Yes, I'm SURE I want to close the corp!", it specifically says all assets will be removed from corporate hangars and placed in the CEO's personal hangar, and any money in the corporate account will be split up equally among the shareholders.
This is a problem with the game, not an issue with his judgement.
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Janters
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Posted - 2003.11.03 11:04:00 -
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Around a month ago I did exactly the same thing. I got no response for around 3 weeks but was lucky enough that a GM was in the help channel when I was moaning about petition response times. The GM took the issue on personally and within an hour I had a response. However they only managed to find 1 original blueprint of the 10 or so that were lost. Don't give up hope they may be able to find the equipment you lost.
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Robus
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Posted - 2003.11.03 11:16:00 -
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Khyan:
Almost the same happened to my corp last week. The slight difference was that I did not wanna close it and hit the cancel "x" button once the confirmation popup window appeared. Due to a bug in the UI the corp was closed anyway. All assets gone: no more offices, corp wallet, items/ships/bps/factories, just the ship I was in is left. I petitioned a week ago and still got no response. Filed bug report, talked to GM/Polaris. No reaction so far.
Really sad, that things like this happen. I fully understand your feelings atm as it does not make any sense to continue playing without having anything left. 3 month gameplay for nothing...
You can find my original thread in the corporations forum under "Resign...all gone?".. |

PandaBoy
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Posted - 2003.11.03 11:29:00 -
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Quote: And why not? Ammo pops into your hangar when you remove a turret. Items pop into your hangar when you cancel a sell order.
The key to a good interface is consistency. If it happens sometime it should happen all the time.
In addition, nothing should ever just "disappear," regardless of action taken. If you recycle a ship with something in the hold, it should appear in your hangar, etc. Anything else is just lazy coding.
It's just as silly as buying another house and expect your car, furniture and other assets to *appear* at the new home.
Veruna, go play Lemmings. 
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.03 11:33:00 -
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It does, quite cleary state, that all goods will be distributed amongst the shareholders and the corp disbanded when you go to delte the ceo as the last remaining character.
It pops up a warning in-game saying that.
Thus I am struggling to see why CCP should compensate you. It warns you of the consequences but you did it anyway.

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Robus
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Posted - 2003.11.03 11:35:00 -
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well, if I buy a new house I can still haul the stuff from my old house to my new one...
The impounded feature is in the game and works for unpaid rents. Why is it not working for closed corporations? It is silly to take away all stuff and let it vanish.
And Panda: I hope you will never get into something similar... You won't like it |

Robus
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Posted - 2003.11.03 11:36:00 -
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Edited by: Robus on 03/11/2003 11:37:29 Although this are diffent cases when actively closing by hitting "ok" or canceling by "x" with the same result. |

Chai N'Dorr
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Posted - 2003.11.03 11:42:00 -
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If you've got 30-40M in assets and money, then you've played a long time.
If you have played a long time, then you should know that a lot of things, and especially descriptions, in this game are not what they appear to be.
When I closed my Corp it said the exact same thing, not knowing quite what how they were gonna distribute it (isk equivalent? mineral equivalent) I thought it better to drag everything I had to my personal hanger.
Now, if I can figure this out as, like the Slaver Race likes to call it, a mentally challenged Minnie, you could've as well.
Anyhoo... good luck with Petitioning, you will need that...
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2003.11.03 17:39:00 -
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Quote: It does, quite cleary state, that all goods will be distributed amongst the shareholders and the corp disbanded when you go to delte the ceo as the last remaining character.
It pops up a warning in-game saying that.
Thus I am struggling to see why CCP should compensate you. It warns you of the consequences but you did it anyway.

Because it DIDN'T get distributed, I should think. So the warning is bullcrap, much like your post.
Try learning to read, why don'tcha.
_______ "Soon" is an ancient Icelandic word meaning "some time before the next Ice Age." |

Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.03 17:49:00 -
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Edited by: Morkt Drak on 03/11/2003 18:03:27
Quote:
Quote: It does, quite cleary state, that all goods will be distributed amongst the shareholders and the corp disbanded when you go to delte the ceo as the last remaining character.
It pops up a warning in-game saying that.
Thus I am struggling to see why CCP should compensate you. It warns you of the consequences but you did it anyway.

Because it DIDN'T get distributed, I should think. So the warning is bullcrap, much like your post.
Try learning to read, why don'tcha.
Oh dear...
I shall be nice, though your overtly offensive attitude does not deserve such, particularly in light of you not following your own advise.
It won't be distributed if there are no shareholders.
At the point of warning he could have stopped checked either that or moved the items safely to be sure. He didn't.
He doesn't state he was a shareholder, just that he was the last member.
Quote: even after it said that all the stuff was going to be given to all the shareholders (i was the last and only member of my corp),
In your own words:
"Try learning to read, why don'tcha."
Having done this process with active shareholders it does (did) distribute items. Being the last member of a Corporation does not mean you are a shareholder.
PS: Feel free to apologise in your own time.. I won't, of course, be holding my breath.
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Khyan
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Posted - 2003.11.03 18:03:00 -
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Edited by: Khyan on 03/11/2003 18:04:56 omg, reading half of these posts, most of them insulting me with 'being stupid'.
I expected alot more from this community.
Its true that im playing for a long time and i lost lots of millions, but not due to my stupidity. If the game clearly states that all goods will be distributed amongst the remaining shareholders i expect the stuff back in my personal hangar. The game is retail ffs.
if i was to question every warning ingame then i would never put out an act of aggression towards NPCs or place a buy order when nobody's selling.
but thats just me being stupid... really, i expected alot more from you guys. For those that understand, thanks for understanding. For those that don't, i pity you all.
its a sad day for eve-kind.
P.S. i started the corp, i WAS the CEO thus the only shareholder.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.03 18:06:00 -
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Quote: omg, reading half of these posts, most of them insulting me with 'being stupid'.
I expected alot more from this community.
Its true that im playing for a long time and i lost lots of millions, but not due to my stupidity. If the game clearly states that all goods will be distributed amongst the remaining shareholders i expect the stuff back in my personal hangar. The game is retail ffs.
if i was to question every warning ingame then i would never put out an act of aggression towards NPCs or place a buy order when nobody's selling.
but thats just me being stupid... really, i expected alot more from you guys. For those that understand, thanks for understanding. For those that don't, i pity you all.
its a sad day for eve-kind.
Frankly - why?
You ahven't even stated you were a shareholder.. jsut that you were the last member of the corp, which isn't the same thing.
I've done this process twice and it has worked every time where they were shareholders. It does not work if shares haven't been allocated.
I suspect this is exactly what happened to you. You received a pop-up warning and chose to carry on beyond it.. as others have stated "What more can you ask for?"
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.03 18:07:00 -
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Quote: P.S. i started the corp, i WAS the CEO thus the only shareholder.
Then there's your problem.
You weren't a shareholder if you didn't allocate shares manually.
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MOOstradamus
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Posted - 2003.11.03 18:14:00 -
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Edited by: MOOstradamus on 03/11/2003 18:17:14
Um ... if this character was the only member/shareholder and he left then doesn't that mean there are no more members/shareholders in existence and hence there is no-one that falls under any applicable category to distribute stuff to ... 
*EDIT: nevermind ... members does not necessarily = shareholders The End. *
MOOrovingian "Following & supporting EVE (since Jan 2001) is like wiping your arse with sandpaper."
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.03 18:17:00 -
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Edited by: Morkt Drak on 03/11/2003 18:20:35
Quote: Um ... if this character was the only member/shareholder and he left then doesn't that mean there are NO more members/shareholders in existence and hence there is no-one that falls under any applicable category to distribute stuff to ... 
No - it does actually cater for that (though whether it is by design or mistake is another matter). In essence the corp closes but the shares dont "die"... I still have shares in defunct corporations. 
Edit: I suspect it is supposed to allocate items and then delete the shares in a "cleanup" afterwards.. but is failing to "cleanup".
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