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Taurevanime	Posted - 2007.03.25 01:45:00 - [1] Well a lot of interesting stuff to read. I haven't read everything yet since it's really late (3:30 in the morning) and I'd like to get a word in before I go to bed. I might not be playing EVE for long but as with everything I love and enjoy I immerse myself in it quite deeply and I seek to really do some proper roleplaying as I start meeting all the various roleplayers and getting to know them. Being Brutor (The Tribe that's most interested in reviving old traditions) my character and I myself am very keen to get involved in this. So Wren send me an eve-mail if you like to talk more and I'll give you my e-mail adress there. You'll understand that I won't post it on the forums. From my observations of the stories and names of the Minmatar ships and such. I have to say there seems to be a heavy Nordic influence with the Minmatar. However I don't know much about nordic shamans and their traditions, I think that's an entirely lost part of history in fact. But generally speaking I look at the Nordic religion to inspire me for names for my ships for example. I am greatly surprised that in relation to shamanism nobody suggested looking at two groups of well studied and still living people with shamans. The zulus of South-Africa and the Aboriginals in Australia. Both tend to as already described use trance like states in their rituals. Either through drugs or just dance. Since it's rather late my thoughts are a bit incoherent. And I'd really like to discuss this matter in a more instant messenger based enviroment if possible. On a side note I have a friend who composes music, and as I learn (/help develop) more of Matari culture, he might be interested in creating some music. Anyway I go sleep now.
Taurevanime	Posted - 2007.03.25 16:02:00 - [2] Well speaking of hiding tribal traditions in other faith symbols and such. I am from Curatao, an island in the Caribbean which used to be the centre of slave trade in the area. Most of the poeple that live there now are descended of former slaves and the local traditions are filled with African influences. I can look into getting some books on it all to provide a closer study.
Taurevanime	Posted - 2007.03.27 02:11:00 - [3] Okay I'm going to start writing a Minmatar religion as religion is one of the most defining aspects of a culture. I have set myself two important goals with this religion. One I will try to incorperate the names of Norse Gods and mythological beings into it as well as work up a reason for their names even have such a clear relation with our own. Secondly I will make slightly altered version for the different tribes. So that while the names remain the same, the world and universe are different and suit that tribe more, as well as the acts committed. I will start with the Brutor as I know them and their ideals best and they seem to have the closest ideal to that of the ancient Norse. The first version of this is going to look a lot like the actuall Norse religion but I will attempt to make changes where possible to make it suit EVE a lot more.
Taurevanime	Posted - 2007.03.28 13:20:00 - [4] Well immigration might be something where my island can prove for some nice experiences. Immigrants are generally loathed by the majority of the population and they will be insulted with racist remarks and such, but they won't be denied a job for being an immigrant. But you'll have to prove that your tough and can take the verbal abuse. And after a while after you've proven to be a good person, the people that know you will treat you with respect. Strangers might still occasionally call you some racist things. Of course you'll never be considered Matari unless you go through the voluval and other rituals that every Matari has gone through. But it's only like you're barred from attaining the highest positions and positions in the public light untill you do. What say you?
Taurevanime	Posted - 2007.03.28 23:25:00 - [5] Okay I wrote a bit on Brutor Cosmology (This is how the universe is percieved by religion) It's a slight edit of the Norse cosmology which I used as a basis and you'll see some familiar names appears. In the Brutor cosmology the emptiness of the Gunningagap was filled by the sweat of Ymir creating a vast ocean of the universe. And the different 'planes' of existance are represented by islands in this vast and dangerous ocean. With the humans living on Midgard, an island made out of the remainder of the giant Ymir's body. It used to be a vast open plane but the fence the God's built started showing ***s and the vast ocean poured into Midgard, flooding most of it apart from a few islands. The icy world of Niflheim is represented as an island of ice. From time to time great chunks of ice break off and float across the ocean of the universe, these icebergs are the reason for the fence protecting Midgard to begin showing ***s. The hot world of Muspelheim is represented as a volcanic island filled with volcanos which constantly erupt, the heat of Muspelheim constantly fighting against the universal sea to hold it back. Vast collumns of steam forming were the Muspelheim meats the sea, the steam forming clouds. Upon the collumns of steam the Odin and the Gods created an island of clouds which they named Asgard and where they live. Where the sea meets Muspelheim the the three Norns live, weaving the winds of destiny to keep the collumns of steam from dispersing outward lest Asgard fall from the sky. At the base of the collumn of steam lies the dragon Nidhugger who sucks in the steam constantly, keeping the Norns at work. In Muspelheim below the many volcanos lies the hall of Hel, which is named after him. This is the hall where the dead without honour or those who died of disease and old age go to, to live forever in shame. While in Asgard is the Hall named Valhalla, where those whom have fought bravely and with honour and died in battle stay. So that they may fight and practice untill Ragnarok (The time of Chaos) comes, when they will fight alongside the Gods against the giants and Loki's offspring. And these are what I figure are the morals and ideals of the Brutor from reading prime fiction and looking at the religion I'm shaping. Please note that these are the ideals, not everyone is perfect. The ideal of the Brutor both men and women is to be strong of body and will. So that they may fight and conquer all challenges that life throws at them. Brutor hold honour and bravery in great regard. These morals and ideals were greatly upheld in their beliefs, for those who were brave and died with honour would go to Valhalla. While cowards, cheats and others would go to Hel and face torment for all eternity. As for the different marks well there's a few in the prime fiction, but I figure that the good people at CCP want us to make up our own. Wren also asked me to explain why blindness was considered a sign of wisdom by the Brutor. I'd say this would be because they don't belief a blind man is wholly blind, he is just blind to this world filled with deceptions and illusions (placed there by Loki?) and is thusly unefected by them. He also looks in on himself and others and untaps a great wisdom as a result. Finally some of you may be worried that making a 'religion' will take away from shamans and tribal beliefs. But even the Norse had shamans and lived in clans and formed tribes. The position of a shaman is to cure ailments and most importantly, foretell the future, as well as give thanks to the Gods. Well that's all I've got for today. Do please tell me your thoughts and ideas.
Taurevanime	Posted - 2007.03.29 18:37:00 - [6] Oh not at all straight worship like going to church. There's not even special buildings of worship, areas of reverence yes. It's more that it's an explenation why things happen. Like thunder is the result of Thor smashing his hammer and stuff like that. Do only straight worship that is done would be sacrificing an animal to a certain diety before setting out on a journey on sea, lest their ship be wrecked and they all drown.
Taurevanime	Posted - 2007.03.30 23:09:00 - [7] Go ahead with it I'd say.
Taurevanime	Posted - 2007.04.04 01:42:00 - [8] Okay I had a crazy idea going for the strong affinity the Minmatar seem to have with sails and I figured that there were no strong beasts of burden like horses or oxen on the Matari homeworld, apart from maybe the Brutor but I'll get to that later. So lets take the Sebiestor as an example they live on vast open steppes and of course they can walk across it, but with the invention of the wheel they have carts. But nobody wants to pull a heavy cart all day so they started putting sails on them to at least reduce the workload a little when they could. And in the artic lands they simply fitted skis to them. Now the Verhioker took it a step beyond being the nomadic people that they are. They created large land sailing ships to traverse the dangerous deserts where they lived, transporting themselves and all their belongings at once from oasis to oasis. The Brutor living on small tropical islands used sailing ships of course to move about. I did some thinking and well cities and villages couldn't really be developed to larger levels because of the lack of beasts of burden. So the Sebiestor started building their towns on hillslopes and creating two markets as it were on them. On the crest was the market were goods would be bought and on the bottom the market where they'd be sold. This made ease of transporting goods throughout the cities easier at least. it also resulted in the first planned cities on Minmatar. Because of their city planning and overall cunning the Sebiestor tribe grew larger and larger untill it eventually got in contact with the sea. After a course of decades maybe centuries a Sebiestor or Brutor ship got in contact with each other and after some initial misunderstanding (The sebiestor thinking the Brutor to be giants) the Brutor traded their oxen to the Sebiestor for other valluables of a kind, marking the start of true progress on the Matari mainland now that they would no longer be constraint by where their sailing carts could go, nor did they have to found cities on hills anymore. However the oxen were strong and made the smaller land sailing vessels obsolete, the larger ones were still able to transport more goods quicker over larger distances. And so the sail holds a special place in all Matari hearts and traditions?

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