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zwerg Caldari mUfFiN fAcToRy Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.21 20:54:00 - [1] I've seen that noone is answering my questions about the vagabond in the original sticky thread, so i thought lets make a new one on which everyone's getting their answers answered. I bought a vagabond like 4 month ago, and im flying it all the time, im going totally okay with my fitting, and i really like it: High* 5x 220mm Vulcans II. 1x True Sancha Medium Nosferatu Medium* 1x Large Shield Extender II, 2x Shadow Serpentis Warp Dirstuptors ( 26km ), 1x 10MN Microwarpdrive II Low* 3x Warp Core Stab, 2x Gyrostabilizer II Drone Bay: 5x Hobgoblin II Please feel free to argument that fitting and post yours, Tactics are welcome too! zwerg Save the whales!!! Harpoon some Amarrians!!!!
Valtirix Gallente Cereal Killerz Chimaera Pact	Posted - 2006.10.21 20:56:00 - [2] lol
Old Geeza The Retirement Home	Posted - 2006.10.21 20:56:00 - [3] Linkage _______________________________________ Sign the petition against jump queues!
FFGR Maza Nostra Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.10.21 21:01:00 - [4] /me points to the sticky and all the killmails of Vagabonds that tried to have only 1 Large Shield Extender getting killed in less than 5s _____________________________ siggys v. 0.5
Zafira Nasr	Posted - 2006.10.21 21:02:00 - [5] /me awaits stabnerf
Old Geeza The Retirement Home	Posted - 2006.10.21 21:03:00 - [6] Originally by: FFGR /me points to the sticky and all the killmails of Vagabonds that tried to have only 1 Large Shield Extender getting killed in less than 5s What's even funnier are the ones going around with just a medium shield booster :/ _______________________________________ Sign the petition against jump queues!
Draugz Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.21 21:09:00 - [7] No, whats even funnier and idiotic is how people are not capable of sticking to the topic subject. zwerg i've only been on the receiving side of vagabond tactics, afraid i cant help you out. Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes Join The Naruto Online Multiplayer Game http://www.naruto-arena.com
Valtirix Gallente Cereal Killerz Chimaera Pact	Posted - 2006.10.21 21:15:00 - [8] Originally by: Draugz No, whats even funnier and idiotic is how people are not capable of sticking to the topic subject. zwerg i've only been on the receiving side of vagabond tactics, afraid i cant help you out. Well if you cant help him, then why the hell are you even posting? Seems liek your one of those ppl that cant stay on track to me
HankMurphy Pelennor Swarm Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.10.21 21:29:00 - [9] Originally by: zwerg High* 5x 220mm Vulcans II. 1x True Sancha Medium Nosferatu Medium* 1x Large Shield Extender II, 2x Shadow Serpentis Warp Dirstuptors ( 26km ), 1x 10MN Microwarpdrive II Low* 3x Warp Core Stab, 2x Gyrostabilizer II Drone Bay: 5x Hobgoblin II that'll do. I like a bit tougher/faster myself. drop one of your warp scrams and one of your wcs's fill the mid with either an invul II or med sb, fill the low with a faction nanofiber. if ya really wanna go balls to the wall: go w/ one wcs, 3 gyros and a nano
xeom Veto.	Posted - 2006.10.21 21:34:00 - [10] 220's II Corpum NOS 2xLarge ext II 1xDisruper 1xMWD 3xGyro's 2xPDS II 5x Warrior II --- CCP how about the pith X & A mods? "Those nuclear missiles are for domestic heating." - Scagga
Pepperami Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2006.10.21 21:39:00 - [11] Originally by: HankMurphy if ya really wanna go balls to the wall: go w/ one wcs, 3 gyros and a nano And if you want any balls fullstop just drop the wcs. Nanos help you survive just fine. [EVE TASK BAR?]
zwerg Caldari mUfFiN fAcToRy Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.21 21:45:00 - [12] Originally by: Old Geeza Linkage ye youre really funny! read before post FTW, thank you guys for your fittings! i want mooooreeeeeeeee :) mmh the one without any stabs is looking pwnzor but i dont like the idea getting caught an loose like 500mil :( zwerg Save the whales!!! Harpoon some Amarrians!!!!
Denrace Amarr Psykotic Dreams Barracudas.	Posted - 2006.10.21 21:47:00 - [13] STOP STEALING MY BOUNTY SIG!! Den ________________________________________
HankMurphy Pelennor Swarm Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.10.21 21:55:00 - [14] Edited by: HankMurphy on 21/10/2006 21:55:04 Originally by: zwerg mmh the one without any stabs is looking pwnzor but i dont like the idea getting caught an loose like 500mil :( yeah, its always sexier with zero wcs, but the way this ship is to be flown, all it takes is is that one tackler that was just a bit faster than you thought to give you a real bad day your gonnna outrun most, but the price of vagas these days its justified to fit one or two. vaga is only ship i'll douche out w/ a wcs (unless i'm travel fit or some shyte) cant wait till HAC prices drop to something a bit more reasonable (you know, maybe back down to BS price range in teh next few years plz)
xeom Veto.	Posted - 2006.10.21 21:56:00 - [15] Thats a link to the Scrapheap forums not these btw. --- CCP how about the pith X & A mods? "Those nuclear missiles are for domestic heating." - Scagga
Ras Blumin 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.10.21 22:05:00 - [16] Wow! A 1 lse vaga!? And a 2 lse vaga!? With lowslots like the pilot prefer them!? This sounds much better than all other vaga setups I have ever seen .. Especially those in the sticky. Thanks for this thread!
Angelus X Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.21 22:05:00 - [17] Originally by: xeom 220's II Corpum NOS 2xLarge ext II 1xDisruper 1xMWD 3xGyro's 2xPDS II 5x Warrior II Same setup as the above... except I have 2 Gyro II, 2x PDU II, and 1x Named Damage control. Works wonders. -----
Old Geeza The Retirement Home	Posted - 2006.10.21 22:09:00 - [18] Originally by: zwerg Originally by: Old Geeza Linkage ye youre really funny! read before post FTW, "Please feel free to argument that fitting and post yours," Every argument pro and against virtually every vaga fitting can be found in that thread. If you want some tactics, check the rest of the forums on that site. _______________________________________ Sign the petition against jump queues!
Sir JoJo Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.21 22:14:00 - [19] Try nannos instead of wcs ;) ull see u can burn away from most ** and ull be fast as ** its a disgrace for Minmatar
starship enginer	Posted - 2006.10.21 22:36:00 - [20] Originally by: zwerg I've seen that noone is answering my questions about the vagabond in the original sticky thread, so i thought lets make a new one on which everyone's getting their answers answered. I bought a vagabond like 4 month ago, and im flying it all the time, im going totally okay with my fitting, and i really like it: High* 5x 220mm Vulcans II. 1x True Sancha Medium Nosferatu Medium* 1x Large Shield Extender II, 2x Shadow Serpentis Warp Dirstuptors ( 26km ), 1x 10MN Microwarpdrive II Low* 3x Warp Core Stab, 2x Gyrostabilizer II Drone Bay: 5x Hobgoblin II well although the stab nerf is gona hurt most****abonds, the shield extender buff is gona mean you guys get 50% more shields so your shield hp will be 7770HP or near enough that. and if in a gang 8.5k shields o0 ok back to setups, keep what you got, but you CAN NOT have more than one stab, it will criple your range to about 11km if you do!!! so with that over, you can still fit one stab! but is it worth it? if you are ganking a npcer they will have zero points, if you are fighting pvpers they will have more than one point. also would u really like a slow lock time? id suggest, 2dmg mods. 3 nanos! [and also try out the new inertia things]
Wizie Minmatar Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.10.21 22:40:00 - [21] 5 dual 180 IIs 1 med nos II dual extenders mwd warp disruptor 3 gyro IIs 2 local hull nanos.. 5 jamming drones (till ecm is nerfed) a few snakes. ----------------- Sig removed by some noob
Lonectzn Pelennor Swarm Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.10.21 22:45:00 - [22] 5 x 220 II 1 x Nos 1 x 10mn MWD II 1 x 20km Scram 1 x Lg extender 1 x Web/second extender/tracking disruptor/ 2 x Gyro II 3 x Local nanos 5 x light ecm drones Tracking disruptor is the bomb. Don't like second extender that much you get rather large sig. Tracking disruptor is really cool. If I decide to fly a vaga again (stopped because of prices) will use that setup. ECM drones are a must, you rarely use your light drones the jam chance is fantastic. There's freedom in the last high as well - be honest the nos is almost useless there. You're usually out of it's range, it's not going to be draining anyone dry (and you're not waiting around that long anyway) and you don't need the cap that much. -----------------
maGz The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.21 22:45:00 - [23] 5x Dual 180 IIs 1x TS Med NOS 1x Domi MWD 1x Domi Disruptor 2x Large Shield Extender II 3x Gyro IIs 2x Domi Nanos Works for me ____________ The Priory Killboard
Epsilon 1	Posted - 2006.10.21 22:50:00 - [24] Originally by: Denrace STOP STEALING MY BOUNTY SIG!! Den It's a classic. Be proud. Originally by: Tuxford Ah yes the Amarrians. Now bear with me apparantly I don't play Amarr or have ever heard of them, I read it on the forums. PROFFESSIONAL Game Balancing.
KuKu D'Ent Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.10.21 22:51:00 - [25] Originally by: Lonectzn Edited by: Lonectzn on 21/10/2006 22:48:18 5 x 220 II 1 x Nos 1 x 10mn MWD II 1 x 20km Scram 1 x Lg extender 1 x Web/second extender/tracking disruptor/ 2 x Gyro II 3 x Local nanos 5 x light ecm drones Tracking disruptor is the bomb. Don't like second extender that much you get rather large sig. Tracking disruptor is really cool. If I decide to fly a vaga again (stopped because of prices) will use that setup. ECM drones are a must, you rarely use your light drones the jam chance is fantastic. There's freedom in the last high as well - be honest the nos is almost useless there. You're usually out of it's range, it's not going to be draining anyone dry (and you're not waiting around that long anyway) and you don't need the cap that much. EDIT: Just want to point out I'm talking to those sensible enough not to use faction mods Da bomb :) Alright Pelennor, U rocks! Cool Ness
KuKu D'Ent Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.10.21 22:54:00 - [26] Originally by: Lonectzn Edited by: Lonectzn on 21/10/2006 22:48:18 EDIT: Just want to point out I'm talking to those sensible enough not to use faction mods This pointed to anyone? 0.o :p Cool Ness
Tius Ferny	Posted - 2006.10.21 23:50:00 - [27] Originally by: Pepperami Originally by: HankMurphy if ya really wanna go balls to the wall: go w/ one wcs, 3 gyros and a nano And if you want any balls fullstop just drop the wcs. Nanos help you survive just fine. I supose running a large corp with a T2 producing section gives you those balls.
Lonectzn Pelennor Swarm Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.10.22 00:21:00 - [28] Originally by: KuKu D'Ent Originally by: Lonectzn Edited by: Lonectzn on 21/10/2006 22:48:18 EDIT: Just want to point out I'm talking to those sensible enough not to use faction mods This pointed to anyone? 0.o :p I bet you'd jump for joy if there were faction extenders -----------------
Pepperami Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2006.10.22 03:16:00 - [29] Originally by: Tius Ferny Originally by: Pepperami Originally by: HankMurphy if ya really wanna go balls to the wall: go w/ one wcs, 3 gyros and a nano And if you want any balls fullstop just drop the wcs. Nanos help you survive just fine. I supose running a large corp with a T2 producing section gives you those balls. Nope, I've never used stabs in a combat ship and I don't think I've ever flown with stabs fitted, period. Nor does any corp production have any bearing on my own spending, nor do we have access to a vaga print.. So, uhm.. Less bitterness mmkay? Thx for using a fresh alt to smack me tho, I feel loved. If you really want to know my opinion on "stabs on a Vaga", it's from experience of trying to kill them, not flying one. The toughest part is actually getting it webbed, if you want it scrambled it's not too hard to get several 20ks or a warp bubble on one, it's the actual slowing it down to kill it/stop it getting out of web and scramble range, hence nanos with dual extender give it maximum longevity. The way Vagas can be setup, they should only die to a blob, and you have more chance of MWD'ing to a gate, out running tacklers(while killing them), and warping quick by fitting nanos, not stabs. The two or one stabs setup only seems to me to be a setup for people who cannot orbit out of webrange when fighting (totally possible with ACs on a vaga).. In which case maybe you should fly inty before you start wasting your isk on a vaga.. I do emphasize with people who will fit stabs because they can't afford to lose a ship, but if they can't afford to lose it shouldn't really be flying it imo. [EVE TASK BAR?]
Lonectzn Pelennor Swarm Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.10.22 05:18:00 - [30] Everyone tends to get all high-and-mighty about wcs in Vaga threads Basically the uber low setup is 2 gyro 2 nano 1 wcs. One stab is going to save you a lot, more than you realise. New vaga pilots will always make stupid mistakes, like getting in web range of a bc/deimos. The idea that everyone runs +2 scram is stupid, most often you will encounter a single +1 scram, if it's two 20km then they've no web. Vaga pilots pick engagements, most of the time you'll be fighting a single enemy, and in those cases the one wcs will almost always get you out if you do something stupid (it's easy to make mistakes in a vaga). Sure if you're the god of solo go for it. My setup above is great for that. But geez be nice if everyone stopped jumping all over wcs like they're the root of all evil. The good thing is now (soon) that fitting that wcs comes with a real drawback, I think it's good. And if someone decides to fit one at cost to locking, that's a decent trade. Pretty heavy drawback though - locking is pretty important with it, and it's already not high enough for what you use it. Hell if sensor amps actually had a decent bonus I'd use em for sure hint TUX hint -----------------

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