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Cordelia Simonova Privateers	Posted - 2006.10.25 20:36:00 - [31] I don't even know why ISS is posting here. 4 or 5 Wars ago. You're old news. War Dec us, then we'll talk.
Rabb Darktide Artisans Of War	Posted - 2006.10.25 20:41:00 - [32] Originally by: Aceris Describing ISS as a "bully boy" alliance is a bit funny, tbh. I think he was talking about Ivy League... Man, Ivy League picks on everyone!
neutralizer Caldari ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:07:00 - [33] Edited by: neutralizer on 25/10/2006 22:07:35 Originally by: Le Skunk Yes there were indeed many industrial targets, so why didnt you post them stats eh? How many of our haulers have you got full of loot?. And theres no stats for all the lubberly lubberly loot that pours out of said industrial targets straight into our wallets. Alliance kills generally come from big blobs where 10 pilots have wasted 5 hours camping a jita gate then wet their pants with excitement when someone shows up. Big suprise, alliances blobbing :) Also not factored into your equasions, is the cost you are paying mercs to come dec us and sit in a big blob wasting there time. First of all, we never hired mercs to kill you. I don't recall much blobbing either, it was mostly small gang on both sides. In fact, most of the engagements that I was in, you outnumbered us. What I think is sad is that ISS is an industrial alliance and you're a PVP corp, yet you guys got only a 53.76% efficiency (quoted from your killboard) on ISS, which means that both sides lost about the same ISK-wise. You might claim you're ahead from the loot via hauler kills, but why don't you ask what nice BPOs we got off OVERK1LL? (Caldari Research Outpost Platform Blueprint OMG!)
ollobrains 5th Front enterprises New Eve Order	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:58:00 - [34] ok guys the fun continues - that siad ive renamed this thread the everyone versus privateer war thread so that anyone can make a comment.
Infinity Ziona Privateers	Posted - 2006.10.26 00:02:00 - [35] While I cant speak for anyone else in my corporation I think what a lot of people dont understand is I basically do not care about your losses, our losses, some guy in Fountains losses. Let me repeat that. I dont care. I spend more in a month on these wars then the total losses of my entire corporation since we started. So arguing about whether your killboards or our killboard or that guy in Fountains killboards say is pointless. Because I Dont Care. I and the corporation I created exist to attack you if your red and thats it period. You are prey and your stats, your dreams, aspirations of greaterness or blobbiness are irrelavent. Do I consider myself an uber PvP'r, no, I sort of suck. But Im happy with the kills I get and thats the only thing thats important to me. So to Sum Up: 1. I dont care. 2. See above. 3. See above. Thank you. Have a nice day. The Privateering Life
Romble The Graduates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.26 02:55:00 - [36] Privateers, you will be surprised by eve university. A lot of them are battle hardened via many wars. It's a university and organisation and training is good. That's all I will say. Go Go Euni!
ollobrains 5th Front enterprises New Eve Order	Posted - 2006.10.26 05:12:00 - [37] Originally by: Romble Privateers, you will be surprised by eve university. A lot of them are battle hardened via many wars. It's a university and organisation and training is good. That's all I will say. Go Go Euni! Go go Eve Uni - warp jammers - covert ops traps plenty of ECM will make the fights all the more enjoyable
Infinity Ziona Privateers	Posted - 2006.10.26 06:20:00 - [38] Im going to put up a 100 million isk prize to any existing EvE Uni newbie that manages to pod me, thats in addition to my almost 12 million isk bounty and the removal of my crystal set Gluck. The Privateering Life
Le Skunk	Posted - 2006.10.26 08:04:00 - [39] FACT: ISS are as impartial as a punch on the elbow. I have personaly seen them assist both economicaly and militarily an aggressive corp take over soverign space. I have also seen Count Tallahassy or whatever his name is podded and found it mightly amusing. FACT: We have been dec'd by three different Merc Corps in the past month. They dont come cheap. Although one of them in particular should be forced to give the money back due to noobness. FACT: Damage done to a memeber in our corp effects the others not one bit - so crawing about "we killed so and so in this ship carrying this item" scores exactly zero. FACT: Eve University have been keeping NooBs in atrocius conditions, forcing them to mine veldspar, rat frigs and run LV1 missions. We must release the noobs from there torment, and punish the so called "Deathbears" GUFFAW who use the university as a front for their hideous Alliance. Come Join the Privateers - where the spies come to spy ON us... but stay to gank WITH us
Romble The Graduates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.26 08:10:00 - [40] Edited by: Romble on 26/10/2006 08:10:55 infinity, you would actually have to undock for them to have that chance Le Skunk, i dont think i've seen more bullsh.i.t in 1 post ever.. congrats on that win.

Dana Blue Caldari 5th Front enterprises New Eve Order	Posted - 2006.10.26 08:17:00 - [41] heh you guys... skills and fitouts and a good measure of luck... forget the rest. Just fight.
Eskona Runningstar Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2006.10.26 08:22:00 - [42] Edited by: Eskona Runningstar on 26/10/2006 08:23:22 Originally by: Le Skunk (...) FACT: Eve University have been keeping NooBs in atrocius conditions, forcing them to mine veldspar, rat frigs and run LV1 missions. We must release the noobs from there torment, and punish the so called "Deathbears" GUFFAW who use the university as a front for their hideous Alliance. Actually new E-UNI students team up with the more advanced members on level 4 missions for their fair share of bounties and loot, they mine Omber, they ninja-mine Crokite, they produce tech-1 items for manufacturing contracts E-UNI acquires (high-volume contracts that are profitable for them even if they dont have Production Efficiency V), and from time to time they join E-UNI fleet ops and blow up an Absolution or two Oh - and sometimes they even get taught various aspects of EVE.
Hellown	Posted - 2006.10.26 08:32:00 - [43] Originally by: Le Skunk Yes there were indeed many industrial targets, so why didnt you post them stats eh? How many of our haulers have you got full of loot?. Industrials, atleast one i know of.... with a Station BPO among other things.... we win
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.26 08:52:00 - [44] Originally by: Le Skunk Like the guy says, quoting from killboards is pretty pointless as certain peeps dont post there losses. Our killboards tell a different story to the stuff the alliance peeps are coming up with. Who is right? Pffft Actually, whilst the war was on, I was trying to keep track of both sides. I'm doing quite well on fining ISS members for not posting 'em, but we should be at least vaguely in the vicinity of up to date. I actually liked the privateers war. They were fairly good about not doing the major lameness that so many empire war deccers do. (e.g. station hug, afking in stations, logging off or just plain running away when anything other than a hauler or barge came out to play). Or just plain overkill ganksquads. (Legitimate tactic, probably, but getting wiped out by 10 bs when you're solo is extremely one sided). At the end of the day, I came out of the war having had a) quite a good time b) some more PvP practice (cos frankly, I suck at it) c) a few kills. I was actually half tempted to apply to join, since that way I could still shoot at them, _and_ some of my alliance mates
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.26 08:53:00 - [45] Edited by: James Lyrus on 26/10/2006 08:54:31 Originally by: Cordelia Simonova Edited by: Cordelia Simonova on 25/10/2006 22:45:54 I don't even know why ISS is posting here. 4 or 5 Wars ago. You're old news. EDIT - Rush of booze and blood to the head Because we miss you. And I'm still itching to know why that guy was flying around with a Caldari Research Outpost BPO.
Sol Basso Riverstone Corp Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.26 08:56:00 - [46] Some of their members are quite skilled in smack though Watch out, it hurts!
Akira Zendragon Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2006.10.26 09:23:00 - [47] Edited by: Akira Zendragon on 26/10/2006 09:24:17 Plenty of action so far, and clean, grief- and smack-free fights, from what I can tell. Kudos to all. I suppose by now some Privateers might have figured out EUNI is a little tougher than expected... And hey, on the bright side, I got me my first killmail, and it was a Manticore Join channel: "Eve University" or read here
Le Skunk Privateers	Posted - 2006.10.26 09:47:00 - [48] Quote: Le Skunk, i dont think i've seen more bullsh.i.t in 1 post ever.. congrats on that win. Thanks. It was so incendiary - the mods found some 'tick tha box' excuse to remove it. /me Ticks a couple of boxs and all is ok again in the world Quote: I was actually half tempted to apply to join, since that way I could still shoot at them, _and_ some of my alliance mates See - proof that the alliance life sucks, even their main protaganist in this thread whilstfully thinks of joining us! Quote: ...* Eve Uni Students * they mine Omber, they ninja-mine Crokite, they produce tech-1 items for manufacturing contracts E-UNI acquires (high-volume contracts Yeah and the isk trickles back into the top guys pockets. Hell at least the chinese isk farmers have the decency to pay their staff real money!! What a stitch. Its worse then the ASCN guys being forced to mine and haul (click and drag, click and drag, click and drag, snooze and snooze) for 50 hours a week just to build the top guy a titan and boost his Ego. How does that work - do they take turns flying it... i dont think so. guffaw Free the noobs! Release the noobs, disband your alliance and we will let you go! (or wait a couple of weeks till we get bored :) Come join the Privateers, where the spies come to spy ON us, and stay to gank With us
ollobrains 5th Front enterprises New Eve Order	Posted - 2006.10.26 09:49:00 - [49] Originally by: Akira Zendragon Edited by: Akira Zendragon on 26/10/2006 09:24:17 Plenty of action so far, and clean, grief- and smack-free fights, from what I can tell. Kudos to all. I suppose by now some Privateers might have figured out EUNI is a little tougher than expected... And hey, on the bright side, I got me my first killmail, and it was a Manticore for this expect follow up decs - yeah its been a lot of fun to be honest gave us some PVP practice as well. As for smacktalkers there has been some but some of our guys get a bit overzealous as well so u will always have it. - moderation and keeping it clean is always a good idea. Otherwise good luck ivy league and anyone else privateers have a go at.
Akira Zendragon Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2006.10.26 10:30:00 - [50] Quote: Quote: ...* Eve Uni Students * they mine Omber, they ninja-mine Crokite, they produce tech-1 items for manufacturing contracts E-UNI acquires (high-volume contracts Yeah and the isk trickles back into the top guys pockets. Hell at least the chinese isk farmers have the decency to pay their staff real money!! What a stitch. oh brother... I'd suggest you at least do a minimal effort to inform yourself. Top guys don't get isk from euni, they put isk in EUNI. Lots of it. Unless of course you're only interested in posting flamebait, in which case, you're out of luck. No flames here... Move along now... Join channel: "Eve University" or read here

RUNYOUFOOLS Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2006.10.26 10:56:00 - [51] holy crap! you mean MM owes me almost 2 years back pay, jeez no wonder im so poor :/ The MC where right. The horror started when OZ joined us, he turned MM ebil :/ /me starts looking for the bloody razor whip "back to work n00bs!" Well do you love eggs?
Infinity Ziona Privateers	Posted - 2006.10.26 11:13:00 - [52] Originally by: Romble Edited by: Romble on 26/10/2006 08:10:55 infinity, you would actually have to undock for them to have that chance Le Skunk, i dont think i've seen more bullsh.i.t in 1 post ever.. congrats on that win. Bah I undock at least once a week! The Privateering Life
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.26 13:30:00 - [53] Edited by: Butter Dog on 26/10/2006 13:31:30 buggy forum double post ftl
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.26 13:30:00 - [54] Originally by: Cordelia Simonova Edited by: Cordelia Simonova on 25/10/2006 22:45:54 I don't even know why ISS is posting here. 4 or 5 Wars ago. You're old news. EDIT - Rush of booze and blood to the head Maybe because they totally owned you, which is a bit unfortunate as you are (allegedly) a PvP corp, and they are a bunch of miners.
Le Skunk Privateers	Posted - 2006.10.26 15:23:00 - [55] Butter Dog - i refer you to to my first post.. your not quoting industrial/exhumer/freighter/transpot/mining barge/pod kills/loot drops in your stats. As for PVP corp vs Miners a lot of us are new to PVP. Also the only kills they really got was when the navy came out of 0.0 to fight so thats PvP vs PvP. We cained there non pvpers. Also we pretty much have agreed those stats were wrong anyway. Consider not posting here if your not gonna read replies.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.26 15:29:00 - [56] Originally by: Le Skunk Butter Dog - i refer you to to my first post.. your not quoting industrial/exhumer/freighter/transpot/mining barge/pod kills/loot drops in your stats. As for PVP corp vs Miners a lot of us are new to PVP. Also the only kills they really got was when the navy came out of 0.0 to fight so thats PvP vs PvP. We cained there non pvpers. Also we pretty much have agreed those stats were wrong anyway. Consider not posting here if your not gonna read replies. Even if you take those into account, you guys were still WAY down on ISK destroyed/lost, so whatever. The reason you retracted the wardec on ISS is because they owned you. End of.
Caol The Smoking Room	Posted - 2006.10.26 15:33:00 - [57] Originally by: James Lyrus I actually liked the privateers war. They were fairly good about not doing the major lameness that so many empire war deccers do. (e.g. station hug, afking in stations, logging off or just plain running away when anything other than a hauler or barge came out to play). Or just plain overkill ganksquads. (Legitimate tactic, probably, but getting wiped out by 10 bs when you're solo is extremely one sided). At the end of the day, I came out of the war having had a) quite a good time b) some more PvP practice (cos frankly, I suck at it) c) a few kills. I was actually half tempted to apply to join, since that way I could still shoot at them, _and_ some of my alliance mates As a former member of Privateers (and who knows I may go back) I couldn't agree more with the above quote. There is a rudimentary structure in the corp (website, killboard, ts, etc) but apart from that no one is told to do anything, its up to you I had a great time fighting ISS and ASCN in the pipe from Jita to Torrinos, around Ours, down in Tash and around Amarr. Got shot up and shot alot of people up myself, obviously ganking haulers doesn't really class as a challenge but everyone gets the war dec email, everyone in the alliance should know there is a corp of players randomly flying around Eve that are gonna be red to you so... Thinking back actually, comparing fights: 3 inties vs me in a rupture/stabber or crusier vs cruiser were fun because both parties knew it could go either way. Of course in the end people get wise and everyone forms larger groups (or the blob) - it cant be helped. FLA or FIX, ASCN or ISS and IAC etc etc and in Privateers calls were put in corp to blob up on occasion, though as Infinity puts it is is mainly a corp of solo/small group players + 75 spies Of course, if PRVTR ever got organised as a high sec alliance decing / merc outfit then, for reputation, kill board stats and general e-peen comments mean what they mean...until then have fun and pew-pew lots.
Silentbrick Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2006.10.26 15:35:00 - [58] Just so people realize, when we take the newbies on our Level 4's, we replace their ship if it goes boom, out of our own pockets, the excited/terrified students pick up the vast majority of the loot in their frigates, Dessies and cruisers, which we then refine for free if it's crap or compounds and they get full shares of the bounties. These missions allow the students to ask questions about how to tank, effective ways of dealing with NPC's and just in general learn about high level missions and working together as a team. We apply this same philosophy in times of war. We give them frigs, dessies and sometimes cruisers to fly, they ask questions about how to fit out and they learn the ways of tackling, scouting, moving as a fleet and discipline. Sure, corps war deccing us can rack a number of kills from students caught alone, moving around or mining. But when it comes to fleet operations, the Uni has an impressive record of putting serious hurt on people for very little losses. We have our ups and downs of course, but in general, our fleet has taken on multiple T2 fitted ships and blown them to dust bunnies while losing a few minor T1 ships in return. As for the origin of the Deathbear name, that came about from the Uni's shocking discovery of how outright -bloodthirsty- alot of our 'carebears' are once they get a taste of blood.
D75485 Underworld Zombies	Posted - 2006.10.26 18:13:00 - [59] Originally by: Aceris Originally by: Le Skunk Also not factored into your equasions, is the cost you are paying mercs to come dec us and sit in a big blob wasting there time. I joined to give the big bully boy alliances a kick in the shin. Im not kidding myself its anymore then that. ISS or ASCN wont crumble but losing the odd freighter might just annoy them a little. And they have been in general good sports and enjoyed the 'game' as much as us. now thats funny in the past you did I don't think anyone is likely to pay mercs to handle Privateers. ISS certainly didn't. Describing ISS as a "bully boy" alliance is a bit funny, tbh.
Slippery One	Posted - 2006.10.26 18:45:00 - [60] Edited by: Slippery One on 26/10/2006 18:45:23 I don't know how the others in my corp feel but I think that many replying to this thread need to re-read what a Privateer is. If I'm engaging your blob that has come to look for me then I've done something wrong. I'm not here to wage war per say, the wardec that Infinity issues to you alliance members is just my letter of mark. I don't care how many of you I kill, or how many of you that it takes to kill me. All I want is the cargo your haulers drop, and the mining lasers that your barges drop. If I get caught in a fleet action it's going to be the 30 of you vs. the 1-3 of me and my mates. But that's just my take on things. Hope that helps a little on what we are about. Nothing personal just another money making opportunity...



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