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Lord Panther
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Posted - 2003.11.03 00:07:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Panther on 03/11/2003 00:08:22
Who stands with the one true faith as revealed to us in the Amarr bible?
Who believes that the sham known as the championship, a contest that violated every scripture given to us, did NOT choose the rightful Emperor?
Who believes that it is not possible to conclude that god will now inhabit an heir championed by a team that included a Mimnatar, a race we Amarr are commanded to enslave?
Who will fight to ensure that our traditions and the faith that binds us together stay intact?
Who stands with the creator of all things, the lord of the universe, the one who has set the Amarr people above all others?
And....
Who stands with vile Minmatar who rooted for Doriam Kor-Azor.
Who stands with Concord which used the lust for power on the part of some heirs to get their agreement in throwing aside all that is sacred to those who follow the faith?
Who believes that god changed his mind on how the succession should proceed and simply forgot to tell his holy people?
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Worlocke
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Posted - 2003.11.03 00:23:00 -
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Who believes that god changed his mind on how the succession should proceed and simply forgot to tell his holy people?
Perhaps your "God" isn't that great, for if he was then he would not "forget" to tell his holy people.
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Perhaps your "God" has finally seen the light and abandoned his holy people to their inevitable demise at the hands of the Minmatar.
or
Perhaps there is no Amarr "God" and your entire faith is based on lies.
Either way keep up the good work, the more you divide your people the easier it will be for us to conqer them.
"No beast so fierce knows but some touch of pity. But I know none and therefore am no beast." |
Tharrn
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Posted - 2003.11.03 00:28:00 -
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As I said from the beginning the 'rite of succession' appears to have been compromised by foreign powers.
I have learned today that the prize for Ecliptical and his wingmen is of Jovian design.
So far I suspected the Federation and some shoddy 'freedom fighters' to have poked their noses into our business. Oracle has mingled with the Jovians before and they are very eager to embrace Kor-Azor as their new friend.
It's all fitting together very well.
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Inquisitor Cruciatus
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Posted - 2003.11.03 01:33:00 -
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Pure, loyal, and righteous men and women of the Amarrian Empire! Lend me your ears!
A challenge to your faith has thrown at your feet. Your Lord has bestowed upon you a great gaunlet of proving you fealty to the scriptures. This test needs to be answered, and it needs to be answered now! The fate of your empire rests in your faith to your Lord!
As Lord Panther and Sedsiss have preached, a great difilement has been spat upon your faith and traditions. Three of the five houses endorsed blasphemous and heritical rules dictated by the unworthy Concord and the demonic Jove! And the three have conspired together to lift the puppet Kor-Azor above the law of the scriptures. They are making him a false idol to worship, an act damned by the scriptures and traditions of your people!
Tash-Murkon and Kador shall not commit ritual suicide, as they have secured positions underneath Kor-Azor to further corrupt and rot the great Amarrian Empire! The selfish impure merchant Tash-Murkon shall bleed the Amarrian empire dry of her wealth for his own personal Udorian gain. The pitiful weak willed Kador has been corrupted by the other two, and she is now bound to Kor-Azor in sinful crimes of the flesh. And the two-faced Kor-Azor has lied with his forked silver tongue time and time again, ignoring the scriptures and religion, and calling your glorious Empire "backward" and "uncivilized". These are the enemies of your beloved Empire.
Only Ardishapur and Sarum have been loyal and worthy to the Empire. They have repersented you with the purity and honor of true Amarrians. They had the greatest handicaps in the laughable championship, while the others allowed the filth and bile pour into their ranks as a means to win by any way nessecary. Ardishapur and Sarum sacrificed their need to win for the pure and holy scripture lessons taught to you.
These two righteous people need your help. Ardishapur's faith is waining, and Sarum's prescene in the Empire is coming to a climatical end at the suicide ceremony. You must aid your race! Once again, join us in our crusade! Give your heart, soul and will to the true heir, as she needs you in this most dire hour! She cannot be denied her rightful place as Emperess of the glorious Amarrian Empire! You must aid your only salvation, and the only slavation of your race, your empire, your people, your god-given superiority!
This is a call to arms! Follow you fellow brethern into this crusade!
The son turns against the father.
The chess board is set.
One last game. |
Beringe
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Posted - 2003.11.03 01:49:00 -
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I have two points to add, foreigner that I am.
1. I am familiar with Amarr scripture, but I seem to forget the passage where a contest such as this one is deemed a violation. Care to point that one out to me?
2. The winner of the contest used all punishers, all Amarrian ships. The so-called "handicap" dictated by Sarum and Ardishapur is non-existant. Indeed, the houses that used non-Amarrian ships came in last.
My final point would be to direct you to the words of Idonis Aridishapur himself. But never mind.
War will probably come, you know. I just don't want anyone to delude themselves about the reason for it.
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2003.11.03 01:56:00 -
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Tash-Murkon and Kador shall not commit ritual suicide, as they have secured positions underneath Kor-Azor to further corrupt and rot the great Amarrian Empire!
You mock the integrity of my House, you disgusting piece of inbred slave flesh!
Fall silent before you get hunted down and chained to the great corn mill deep in the dunes of Kador Prime till the end of your miserable life, you abhorrent waste of chromosomes!
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Hippey
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Posted - 2003.11.03 02:29:00 -
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Ahahahahahahahaha. How's it feel now Inquisitor?? Traitor scum 
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Sport the war, war support
The sport is war, total war
When victory's really a massacre.
The final swing is not a drill
It's how many people I can kill! |
Lord Panther
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Posted - 2003.11.03 04:24:00 -
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I am familiar with Amarr scripture, but I seem to forget the passage where a contest such as this one is deemed a violation. Care to point that one out to me?
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"Our Lord visited his flock and saw that all was not good.
Blasphemy and heresy ruled the land.
The Lord punished the sinners and drowned them in their own blood.
But the people of Amarr lived righteously and in fear of God.
Thus they were saved and became God's chosen one."
Notice it does not say "The Amarr and those selected by others are God's chosen people." It only says that the Amarr race is chosen.
It is clear that god would not allow a Mimnatar the opportunity to decide which heir will become god incarnate.
It is also clear that throughout the ages the Heirs chose their own champions.
In short, to say that other races had to be brought in to decide which heir will become the living god is an affront to our faith and an insult to the universal creator who set the Amarr above all other races.
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Asimir Kurdugal
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Posted - 2003.11.03 04:28:00 -
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In short, to say that other races had to be brought in to decide which heir will become the living god is an affront to our faith and an insult to the universal creator who set the Amarr above all other races.
So, your god rules over only the Amarr? Surely a god would have the power to stretch his influence to those of other races. Sounds more like a king to me.
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Moving again, comfort of the chase
Now and again, this my saving grace
Dead on the inside, I've got nothing to prove
Keep me alive and give me something to lose
I've been gone so long, but I will come back
I will come back for you |
Vel Kyri
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Posted - 2003.11.03 06:24:00 -
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God is great, and his kingdom is without limit.
But, it was due to the follwy of man that many turned from the path of light. God wept, but he had given his creations free will - He could not force us to follow him - we must follow out of devotion and loyalty.
The Amarr Emperor was given the holy task of reuniting man under the true faith.
Others have entered the Amarr Empire and risen to great heights due to their faith - The Ni-Kunni, the Udorians, and even the Ammatar are good examples - who are we to say that the Gallente, Caldari, and yes, even Minmatar could not do the same.
But they must show their faith, and listen to the words of God - they must follow the holy traditions for they are the path to salvation.
Kor-Azor has been shown to possess divine support - he has been placed on the throne by the will of God - but as i have said elsewhere, is this a test of faith for us?
If Kor-Azor leads us away from the holy path, will we follow him to damnation?
I for one will not.
As long as Kor-Azor follows the true faith, i will be his faithful sister in the light. But should he step into the darkness, i shall not follow.
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Erai
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Posted - 2003.11.03 08:30:00 -
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Edited by: Erai on 03/11/2003 08:57:36
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The Ni-Kunni, the Udorians, and even the Ammatar are good examples
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The Ammatar, mrs Kyri, are the greatest ingrates that this universe has EVER had the misfortune to harbor. If you see fit to call their wretched, treacherous existance "greatness" and their soulless obedience "faith" then your are not insulting your Udorians, your Ni-Kunni and your other pet races, but your slavers and your dogs! 
/spits on the ground.
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Vel Kyri
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Posted - 2003.11.03 09:45:00 -
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To be part of the Glory of the Amarr is my definition of greatness.
The Ammatar, Udorians, Ni-kunni, and to an extent even the Dark Amarr (who do not recognize the authority of the Emperor, but are otherwise faithful) are all a part of thei greatness.
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Kallanagh Tellen
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Posted - 2003.11.03 11:01:00 -
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Loyal Amarrians of the Imperium,
There are no words that can fully describe the remorse that I feel at this moment. This shameful display of disobedience at the hands of these "loyal" servants of the faith.
All that I have heard is little more then hearsay and rumour, preached as if fact by those whose fear has apparently affected their mind at this critical period in the time of our existance. How dare you dare to incite Internal Strife! At this time when we must be strong and you openly shout this vile herecy to all those who would listen, what is even more dispicable is that you bring the Holy works of our Ancestors into your "campaign".
Kor-Azor has been found to be the next in line for the throne, so be it. If he wishes to maintain the path of peace as laid down by the passing of our beloved late Emperor then that is his judgement, and with his soon approaching coronation then we shall truly see if Gods will shall sanctify the ceremony. I will not have these further childish tantrums proceed from the mouths of learned men, who DARE to presume that their mortal souls can even BEGIN to understand the miracle of our lord Gods design.
I am a faithful servant of the scriptures, and I will fight to see that its sovereignty is maintained. If anyone other then the heirs themselves attempts to interfere with the choice of who shall rule by harming Kor-Azor, they will be surely hunted down and brought to justice for treason.
The very thought of this pathetic display makes me ill.
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Vel Kyri
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Posted - 2003.11.03 11:10:00 -
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Kallanagh, i agree with you to a degree.
Doriam I is our emperor - so long as he stands for the faith and leads us true, then i shall serve.
Should he disgrace his position by turning from the true way of the Amarr and turning away from God, then trouble will come.
But we shall see how events transpire.
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.11.03 11:25:00 -
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Edited by: Hardin on 03/11/2003 11:26:27
I have to admit Doriam Kor-Azor was not my first choice of Emperor but God works in mysterious ways!
Who are we to question the Will of God. It would be blasphemous in the extreme to question his works, whether we see the reason for them or not.
Of course, many disappointed individuals will contest the legitamacy of the Championships and the way the new Emperor has come to power. Who would not feel some bitterness if their own favourite was not selected?
But our choice is simple. The Emperor's will has, and always will, be law.
Do we unite behind the law and the divine will of the Emperor or do we wish to fight amongst ourselves to the delight of our foes?
I hope Jamyl Sarum makes the right choice. Her champion failed. She failed. It is now in the Empire's greater interest that she ends herself. Failure to do otherwise will tear us apart!
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Tharrn
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Posted - 2003.11.03 13:54:00 -
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I hope Jamyl Sarum makes the right choice. Her champion failed. She failed.
I still cannot see how *any* of the heirs failed or proved his worth. I do fail to understand though how you can close your eyes to the obvious Jovian interference.
Unless otherwise instructed by the Lady Sarum, to whom I have pledged allegiance, I no longer want to be a part of that folly. If the Lady accepts this farcial succession my clone will rest my case as a resident of the Khanid Kingdom watching the Jovian plot unfold and reminding you of these grave days when traditions were broken and the Empire sold out.
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Makkar
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Posted - 2003.11.03 14:14:00 -
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If your god is as great as your scriptures claim, are you seriously trying to suggest your god is incapable of changing his mind?
By suggesting such, are you not limiting the guidance of your god to the scriptures, written in the past, concerning the events of the past. You are denying your god, through your own stubborn intractability, the ability to lead you into the future.
If you try to walk forward whilst looking over your shoulder, you will trip and fall.
In addition, you've pretty much denounced your god's will as heretical. If your god can be guilty of heresy against himself, then truly you're even more egalitarian than the Gallente.
Although I truly would love to see you try and catch him and burn him at the stake.
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Hardin
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Posted - 2003.11.03 14:40:00 -
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Makkar - as Vel has pointed out elsewhere The Emperor himself is not God, he just plays a significant role in our religion.
Tharrn - if Jamyl Sarum is unhappy with the succession she should have made her complaint before it took place. You cannot agree to the rules and then decide to change them when you lose.
She accepted her place in the Championship. I have no doubt that had she won you would not now be complaining of 'Jovian' interference!
Her champion failed - she failed. Our legitimate Emperor is Doriam Ko-Azor. For the good of the Empire Jamyl Sarum needs to accept this.
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2003.11.03 14:50:00 -
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I suggest you stop making yourself looking like a Jester who pretends he knows what he does not, Makkar.
This question of faith is beyond you and any Minmatar.
In fact warmongering suits your kind better. Do what you do best!
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Makkar
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Posted - 2003.11.03 15:12:00 -
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Edited by: Makkar on 03/11/2003 15:13:34
Hardin: The role of Pontifex, yes, I know. The voice of your god on the mortal realm, as it were. However the choice of emperor is supposedly god's will, is it not? The suggestion is that god chose poorly?
Gaius: Not a lot I can say to that, to be fair. It seems you've made your narrow mind up about what a Minmatar is capable of, and nothing's going to change that. I pity you, for what it's worth.
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Sedsiss
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Posted - 2003.11.03 15:32:00 -
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God had no hand in the championship inbred mimnatar, and do not even begin to speak of our lord and savior as if you actually cared, keep your snaked tongue in check.
Hardin, you and I both know these championships were a complete farce, they broke the holy tradition and were enforced by foreigners. By my Lord, Mimnatar participated and won with the help of th dark one. Doriam is a puppet of the Devil, and needs to be destroyed.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2003.11.03 15:59:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 03/11/2003 16:04:20
My understanding is the rules of the contest were agreed by all of the heirs.
I fail to see how anyone can claim that the championship was won by Emperor Doriam's team through foreign intervention.
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Jim Hawkins
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Posted - 2003.11.03 16:09:00 -
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Isn't it true that all parties concerned agreed to the terms and conditions of the Championship battle? Please correct me if I'm wrong as my argument about any argument about the succession being redundant will itself be redundant, if you see what I mean.
Anyways, isn't all this stuff about faith and whatnot along with what the new Emporer will or will not do a bit premature - the chap hasn't even got started yet.
Wait and see - that's what I say.
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Kallanagh Tellen
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Posted - 2003.11.03 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: Kallanagh Tellen on 03/11/2003 16:11:40
I agree with Rodj for the most part.
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Raukorya
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Posted - 2003.11.03 16:30:00 -
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I for one find it amusing that the team with the proclaimed "inferior" Minmatar defeated the teams composed of only "superior" Amarr pilots. 
Although I do not claim to be a scholar in you're scriptures, I cannot even begin to wonder how you protest the outcome of the tournament. You say that it was you're god's choice, and that your god is always right, and yet you believe it was the wrong choice? How can you argue with perfection?
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Tharrn
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Posted - 2003.11.03 17:10:00 -
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In the first place we refuse to argue with slaves so be gone.
I said it before and I repeat it if it didn't get through to any and all:
Both Idonis Ardishapur and Jamyl Sarum voiced concerns within the boundaries of their possibilities.
An heir refusing to accept the 'ritual of succession' would be singled out by the other families and squashed. We are just servants and may speak our mind freely as even the most severe punishment of any of us does not affect the Empire as a whole. The heirs are caught in a fine network of intrigue and powergames at the court - the more 'peacefull' houses fielding a small military only (Tash-Murkon, Kador, Kor-Azor) would eagerly have joined forces to remove the houses of Sarum and/or Ardishapur politically.
I really sense a lot of naive people here who *should* read an 'Amarr politics 101'.
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Asimir Kurdugal
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Posted - 2003.11.03 17:26:00 -
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An heir refusing to accept the 'ritual of succession' would be singled out by the other families and squashed. We are just servants and may speak our mind freely as even the most severe punishment of any of us does not affect the Empire as a whole. The heirs are caught in a fine network of intrigue and powergames at the court - the more 'peacefull' houses fielding a small military only (Tash-Murkon, Kador, Kor-Azor) would eagerly have joined forces to remove the houses of Sarum and/or Ardishapur politically.
So really you just don't like how your empire is run to begin with. I guess that's just the way the cookie crumbles.
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Moving again, comfort of the chase
Now and again, this my saving grace
Dead on the inside, I've got nothing to prove
Keep me alive and give me something to lose
I've been gone so long, but I will come back
I will come back for you |
Hippey
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Posted - 2003.11.03 18:32:00 -
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In the first place we refuse to argue with slaves so be gone.
Translation: You got me there, and I got no comeback.
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If you kill them, they will die!
Sport the war, war support
The sport is war, total war
When victory's really a massacre.
The final swing is not a drill
It's how many people I can kill! |
Raukorya
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Posted - 2003.11.03 21:35:00 -
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Lol Hippey, I was just about to press the reply button when I saw your name next to my response there 
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Beringe
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Posted - 2003.11.04 01:09:00 -
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the more 'peacefull' houses fielding a small military only (Tash-Murkon, Kador, Kor-Azor)
Kador may actually have the biggest military. They are a strong house, who have had many emperors, and are deeply rooted in the power structure.
But undoubtedly, Sarum and Ardishapur forces fight with more zeal.
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