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Xeriuz
Caldari
The Puppet Masters.
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Posted - 2006.10.23 12:12:00 -
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why dont you just use the Rook then??? dosent it have 5 missile slots or some??
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dalman
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.10.23 13:13:00 -
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Edited by: dalman on 23/10/2006 13:14:13
 Originally by: Exiled One
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This quote and your previous - bull****tter  Gallente boy What a waste of ******* time Discussion closed.
You're welcome to look at my stats, at FZN killboard, Rampage killboard, SA killboard(s) (offline), FIX killboard (multiply my kills there with 3x to be accurate) etc.
I've never hidden that I've only flown gallante since I switched to that from Caldari after ~8 months of the game.
Difference is that in opposite to you, I want balance and I always argue for balance and not for myself, k?
Do you remember way back in the days, when TomB increased Antimatter base damage from 44 to 48? Out of all the people on these boards, I was the one person who argumented strongest against this change.
At a time when I used rails on my raven and was training up my gallante skills.
And that's just one example of very very many when I've argumented against the race/ships I use.
Go look at some of the spamming I've done about nerfing the current state of ECM and how they're used at dominixes. And what ship do I fly most? Yea, you've already found out that it's the dominix.
But then again, looking at the general standard of posts on these boards, including yours, I figure it's quite shocking for you to find someone arguing for the devs to nerf himself.
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Rod Blaine
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.23 13:16:00 -
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Pilgrims and arazus excell at the shutting down of multiple options of any SINGLE opponent.
The falcon is designed to shut down a SINGLE option for MULTIPLE opponents.
It's different, not worse/.
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Pestillence
Chav-Scum
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Posted - 2006.10.23 13:23:00 -
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Hmm,
Pilgrim, TD bonus.
What do people fit on it? ECM
Arazu?
Ditto
Rapier?
Ditto
Anyway Falcon gets an ECM bonus so it does what the others do but better. All it falls short on is dps. When you can easily jam 3 opponents and sometimes 5-7 at an optimal of 160km+ what more could you ask for?
In summary, take friends, its a gang ship.
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Sebroth
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.23 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: zwerg
Edited by: zwerg on 23/10/2006 10:24:24
Hello there, i am totally into recon ships at the moment.
I really like the Arazu and the pilgrim! I mean these are great ships with great atributes
Arazu:
BBQ - Warp Scramble Range
BBQ - Sensor Damp Strength
and a decent damage ( 3x 200mm II )
of course a drone bay!
Pilgrim:
BBQ - Best - Combo - in - Game
Nos/Drones/ECM aaaaand Tracking disrupt
that means: damage, i-win nos, and "you can't hit me"
Edit: Drone Bay
Now lets take a look at the Falcon:
Nice ship, the ECM power is just great!
But: The Falcon ONLY got ECM, nothing else.
I mean: 2x Gunslots, 2x Missleslots ?!
No Drones? No Damage? Just a silly support Cruiser?
The whole point of this thread is the huge difference between the Pilgrim/Arazu and the Falcon.
So why dont ask the dear GM's to boost the falcon
A Bit not that much but there has to be the little kick in it:
like 4 gun hardpoints, atleast 3!
or a drone Bay! would be enough!
I really hope there are a few Falcon lovers outta there who will boost that thread in the hope the falcon gets a bit boosted!
zwerg
you missed the rapier
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Lydia Browm
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.10.23 13:34:00 -
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The Pilgrim and Arazu aren't good against 3 - 4 ships . Falcon man i can lock down ships. The ability to lock down more ships for less firepower imo is pretty good. Done whine and NOT SIGNED.
Leave them as they are and because you said boost the falcon nerf it a bit  
anyway Lydia out
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.23 14:04:00 -
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Just one more launcher hardpoint. Please?
2 heavy launchers is just feeble.
Not that I think it's necessary, since it's good at it's role - a cloaked Ewar ship, but it still depresses me when I have to call in support to pop a tech 1 frigate.
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Pinky Denmark
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Posted - 2006.10.23 14:06:00 -
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I actually tried the Falcon for a few days in low sec to give it my first test...
The cloak is good, and the jamming is excellent.!!
Damage is bad... The BlackBird can at least fit 3 launchers or 3 guns, and no drones really make the Falcon cry.
Fitting Blasters and NOS or perhaps a missile launcher is the most damage you can do solo, so just keep them scrambled and jammed while waiting...
A few light drones would be nice, but I think it's rather balanced atm.
Pinky
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Serathu
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.10.23 14:27:00 -
[39]
Thread cleaned.
Please stay polite and constructive from here-on in, remembering to avoid trolling and flaming when posting. In addition some of the excessive language seen here, even if masked by the profanity filter, is not welcome - continuing with it could earn you a forum warning or ban.
Now back on-topic folks!
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Dryxonedes Sae
Whine Distillery
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Posted - 2006.10.23 15:48:00 -
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Maybe a 25m drone bay would be it... mebbe less, 15... I do like it as it stands but the damage is really, really really poor, atleast being able to kill off a T1 frig with a low skill pilot in a reasonable amount of time, that'd be nice.
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FraXy
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.10.23 15:55:00 -
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With all the drone damage skills maxed out with Gallente spec 5 the Pilgrim can output 237.6 DPS from 5 Hammerhead II. Or 245.2 from 2 Ogre II, 1 Hammerhead II and 2 Hobgoblin II.
Now, where is the so called "overpowered" damage output we are talking about?
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Tasty Burger
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Posted - 2006.10.23 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine
Pilgrims and arazus excell at the shutting down of multiple options of any SINGLE opponent.
The falcon is designed to shut down a SINGLE option for MULTIPLE opponents.
It's different, not worse/.
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.23 16:59:00 -
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I can do in raven exactly what i can do in arazu/lachesis apart from scrambling.
Great eh?
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welsh wizard
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.10.23 17:13:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Rod Blaine
Pilgrims and arazus excell at the shutting down of multiple options of any SINGLE opponent.
The falcon is designed to shut down a SINGLE option for MULTIPLE opponents.
It's different, not worse/.
Said it all.
it's very good at its particular role which is to jam things as part of a gang. It isn't a solo ship.
As Rod said its different, like most other Caldari ships. People too often make the mistake of seeing 'difference' as 'better'.
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Valhalior
Caldari
Beagle Corp
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.10.23 17:42:00 -
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It should have 2 missile hardpoints and 3 gun hardpoints. With some range bonus to rails.
So make it similar to command ships (missile nighthawk and rails on vulture), af (hawk - harpy), inty and hac. One type - two different weapons.
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