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Helison
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Posted - 2003.11.03 16:21:00 -
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Will this still be in project Castor?
Will it cost ISK, if you are offered a BP?
Will it cost something to accrue research points?
Can you start researching for many research fields?
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Helison
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Posted - 2003.11.03 21:07:00 -
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Why do you need an agent to research anything? Why canŠt (large) corps research for their own? Why do labs exist? Just for mineral research and producing copies (oh, this will probably also be restricted)? 
Will reverse engineering be implemented at any time?
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Helison
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Posted - 2003.11.05 14:39:00 -
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What will be the consequences of this new BP-distribution system: Very many players will make missions at the same time to get a chance for a BP. You have to make the missions in empire space. -> Less player will travel to 0.0 to mine Bistot. -> The Megacyte and Zydrine price will rise extremly! 
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Helison
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Posted - 2003.11.15 11:36:00 -
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Edited by: Helison on 15/11/2003 11:38:46 Research has to cost something. You should have to supply minerals, other components and also ISK. And you should have already have the BP from tech I. Why should a freelancer be able to research a Megathron II? But a freelancer should be able to research a better afterburner, if he has the BP for afterburner I.
Quote: 1 Number of BPs on market needs to be limited
This is the only point, which isnŠt really possible with lab-research. And this is also a point, which is very dangerous. Look at the Miner2-issue! 2 Corps sold them for extremous prices, very many people complained about this and why? CCP didnŠt introduce enough BPs. Now it could be possible, that CCP wants to prevent this situation and introduces too much new BPs. The result would be, that Tech II items will be underpriced on the market very fast and the market will remain dead.
I think, that it will be better, if players can decide, which BP they want to research.
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Helison
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Posted - 2003.11.15 23:33:00 -
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Quote: I keep seeing this and I really can't understand it. It's self perpetuating - only those with massive ISK resources at their disposal will be able to research items of real worth if its linked to BP ownership. The lower end players might as well just give up ...that's just bad design
IŠm CEO of a small corp with about 12 members without any real expensive BPs (no cruiser or BS). But I am interested in researching the BPs which we own. An afterburner II BP or a wasp II BP could be very good and rewarding BPs.
There isnŠt any logic, that we could research a Megathron II BP. And I donŠt like the idea, that BPs are distributed by a lottery. I want work for it and I want to know for what I work.
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Helison
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Posted - 2003.11.16 10:37:00 -
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Edited by: Helison on 16/11/2003 10:43:08
Quote: What you shouldn't be able to do is manufacture from the output of the research directly ... manufacture should require the original BP *plus* the output of the research process - that way the investment in the original BP is maintained but it doesn't get in the way of research
This would be one step in the right direction, but not enough. I would require the original BP for the research itself. How can you develop a new module without knowing the predecessor? This would be the same effort like developing a new module.
Are you able to develop in RL a new Pentium x processor, just because you have a Pentium x-1 processor in your computer? NO! And it will not help, if you have already produced graphic-cards or similiar. You have to know the complete production-process and still more.
Another point: What use would it be for me, if I have "the output of the research process" but not the BP itself? I could sell the output or I can buy the BP. But what if IŠm only interested in producing and I donŠt have the money for the BP? Sell the "output" for a few ISK? LOL!
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Helison
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Posted - 2003.11.16 11:53:00 -
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Quote: Just because someone's never seen a wheel before doesn't mean to say they wouldn't be able to come up with the idea for one in isolation
But we arenŠt talking about developing new items but about better versions of items which exist.
Quote: If you don't own the BP, by your own process how would you do the research in the first place. You're no better off
I wouldnŠt start the research.
Quote: You will, the chance you get the BP is dependent on the research effort you put in plus your skills. A lottery weighted by your efforts is exactly the same thing as you having a certain chance of getting the bp.
With the lottery I have no idea, which BP IŠll get. If I can start the research myself in a research lab I can decide which BP I try to develop.
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Helison
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Posted - 2003.11.17 14:27:00 -
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You can just decide your research field but not the item, which you want to research. For example it is luck, if you are given the chance to get a BP for a light ion blaster II or a 425mm Railgun II.
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