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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.24 14:18:00 -
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OK, post your comments on the ship here! 
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.24 14:19:00 -
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Rokh could use a bit more grid. 
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Ras Blumin
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.24 14:20:00 -
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seems like a decent mission runner and miner!
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.24 14:20:00 -
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 Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Rokh could use a bit more grid.
Get your own thread. 
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.24 14:22:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 24/10/2006 14:25:25
Do you know the Rokh and Maelstorm are unidentical mirrors? I think Tux purposely make them almost identical to shut up Caldari/Minmatar whiners. Both have same structure, armour and slot layout. Maelstorm has better grid than Rokh. Rokh has smallest drone bay, 50m3?
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Azerrad InExile
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Posted - 2006.10.24 14:22:00 -
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Same mids as Rokh 
While the shield boost bonus sucks for large fleet it should make a good small group PVP boat, although I'm guessing it won't be enough of an upgrade over the Tempest to make the extra cost worthwile.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.24 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Ras Blumin
seems like a decent mission runner and miner!
With the rof bonus and the shield boosting bonus, it does look much more like a mission runner than a fleet ship. But I dont see the point in using it over the Raven?
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Soyemia
Minmatar
Dark Centuri Inc.
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.10.24 14:22:00 -
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Mstorm shield boost nonus needs to be changed, a fleet platfrom with shield boost bonus  .
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Grimpak
Gallente
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.24 14:24:00 -
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bonuses could use a change. besides that, it seems a capable fleet ship.
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Swiftness
Caldari
VMF-214 Blacksheep
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Posted - 2006.10.24 14:27:00 -
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looks good for 150km-off-gate-low-sec-noob-ganking
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Chode Rizoum
Minmatar
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.10.24 14:28:00 -
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i dont really see me leaving my tempest for this...
maybe some weird gank setup with high sheild boost sure...
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.24 14:28:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 24/10/2006 14:34:17
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Do you know the Rokh and Maelstorm are unidentical mirrors? I think Tux purposely make them almost identical to shut up Caldari/Minmatar whiners. Both have same structure, armour and slot layout. Maelstorm has better grid than Rokh.
I noticed, but nobody is going to use the Maelstrom over the Rohk (or Raven) for mission running as I see it. Why?
1) The resist bonus is much better than the active shield boosting bonus since it doesnt require cap.
2) Rohk has bigger cargo hold.
3) Rohk has more shield.
4) Railguns have higher dps than artillery, probably even with the Maelstroms bonuses.
5) Rohk has longer locking range.
6) The extra hp for shield extenders boosts passive tanking. Again this favours the Rohk.
Disadvantages... hmm. Its 5 m/s slower than the Maelstrom, and only has 50 m3 drone bay compared to the Maelstroms 100 m3.
You cant argue with those facts really...but one thing that is interesting is that the shield recharge rate for the Maelstrom is 1500 seconds instead of 2000 for the rest. It might play a role in certain situations, if you fit mods to speed up shield recharging.
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Nervar
Exotic Dancers Club
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Posted - 2006.10.24 14:30:00 -
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cant wait to see how its gonna perform while sentry tanking tbh
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Grimpak
Gallente
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.24 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Chode Rizoum
i dont really see me leaving my tempest for this...
maybe some weird gank setup with high sheild boost sure...
that's why I said that dmg + shield HP would be a better choice to the ship.
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Tiuwaz
Minmatar
Omacron Militia
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Posted - 2006.10.24 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Do you know the Rokh and Maelstorm are unidentical mirrors? I think Tux purposely make them almost identical to shut up Caldari/Minmatar whiners. Both have same structure, armour and slot layout. Maelstorm has better grid than Rokh.
awww poor jenny, give me a free vaga, will us make both feel better 
eh to the topic:
bonuses: i still hope we loose the shield boost bonus, for an artillery boat its an extremely situational bonus, most of the time it will be ignored so mael effectively only got 1 bonus atm
it reminds a bit of the optimal bonus on the phoon, not that bad perhaps but bad enough
my favourite replacement: shield hp % bonus ^^
stats: looking okay, i had to cringe a bit at the mass but that seems to be the tier 3 theme (except hyperion) so no point complaining about that
fitting: cant say till i can fidle with a quickfit file, seems okeish from 1st look tho
Originally by: Oveur
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Nervar
Exotic Dancers Club
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Posted - 2006.10.24 14:33:00 -
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im gonna use it with ac anyhow, tempest is a better sniper imo
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CRUSH3R
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.10.24 14:33:00 -
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maelstorm - a nice close-combat boat
8*800mm t2
xl shield booster, boost ampl, cap booster, em hard, therm hard, invul
3*gyro, damage control, pds\wcs\...
really nice ship!
but I wish it had 125 m3 drone bay 
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Tiuwaz
Minmatar
Omacron Militia
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Posted - 2006.10.24 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: CRUSH3R
maelstorm - a nice close-combat boat
8*800mm t2
xl shield booster, boost ampl, cap booster, em hard, therm hard, invul
3*gyro, damage control, pds\wcs\...
really nice ship!
but I wish it had 125 m3 drone bay
sorry to burst the bubble, but mael will be slow and heavy, i cant really imagine it as as a good closerange (take a look at mass, and ealier tux blogs indicated it will have a lso bad agility)
Originally by: Oveur
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Rin Eyre
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.10.24 14:45:00 -
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I'd say it will be bad mission runner. Nothing better than Tempest for "no nosf/drone links" and useless SB bonus. Even that 100m3 of drones is nothing - always 5 meds to kill tacklers, but not enough for 5 heavy.
P.S. And try loading up Quake in it ffs.
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Davros Johnstone
The Sanctum
Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.24 14:45:00 -
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I think it looks fairly nice myself. I can't fit a t2 tank on a tempest, nor target a decent distance without an armor tank.
Kali seems more interesting to me now i've seen this :)
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.24 14:47:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 24/10/2006 14:48:03
Originally by: CRUSH3R
maelstorm - a nice close-combat boat
8*800mm t2
xl shield booster, boost ampl, cap booster, em hard, therm hard, invul
3*gyro, damage control, pds\wcs\...
really nice ship!
but I wish it had 125 m3 drone bay
And with quake, now that its speed penalty got removed too... I wouldnt want to get caught in the line of fire of someone gate-camping in that setup... :)
I dont think it will have great success as a artillery ship, but with autocannons, it can be made to work.
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.24 14:50:00 -
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I would prefer a tracking bonus for it rather than a shield HP one, but thats the mission runner in me  for whom HP are useless but tracking would be neat...
(Tank is good enough with Gist XL so no need for that bonus :D)
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Tyler Lowe
Minmatar
DROW Org
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.24 15:10:00 -
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The shield rep bonus remains worth a half slot less than a res bonus, for pretty obvious reasons. I'm done grumping about that though, and the drone bay size is pretty decent.
No matter what else they change around, I wish they'd just drop the fleet sniper thing and give us a larger version of the Hurricane to play with already. The Tempest is an outstanding sniper that people feel is not up to snuff as an AC boat. I disagree with the decision to give us a ship that duplicates a role that's already been filled.
It's probably just too late for this plea, but I'll say it anyway:
The Tempest is a sniping platform.
Please give us a close range beast.
J.A.F.O.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.24 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Tyler Lowe
The Tempest is a sniping platform.
Please give us a close range beast.
The Typhoon? :)
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Tyler Lowe
Minmatar
DROW Org
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.24 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Tyler Lowe
The Tempest is a sniping platform.
Please give us a close range beast.
The Typhoon? :)
Alright... A turret based close range beast. Something that doesn't require 20 million skillpoints to use well maybe?
J.A.F.O.
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Al Haquis
Minmatar
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.24 15:23:00 -
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Tested it out and feels like an over sized Cyclone , not really my cup of tea but with the HP incress i think the shield boost bonus will actually work. In the past people got killed way to fast for the bonus to actually work.
Looking forward to using it with 1200mm2 to use in mid range engaments , and yes i know that other ships are maybe better at that stuff but i dont care becouse i fly minni becouse it¦s a way of life.
But think the Tempest will still be the Minnie fleet ship wich works fine to me.
With love from Al Haquis
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.24 15:25:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 24/10/2006 15:25:52
Originally by: Al Haquis
But think the Tempest will still be the Minnie fleet ship wich works fine to me.
Tempest is a good sniper, but minnie could sure use something that stands up to the Hyperion and Megathron. Perhaps the Maelstrom with autocannons... we'll see.
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Eilie
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.10.24 15:49:00 -
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This ship is slow as ****... "Minmatar" and "Battleship" just never go together well... 
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Tiuwaz
Minmatar
Omacron Militia
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Posted - 2006.10.24 15:53:00 -
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the maelstrom has to be a better sniper than otherwise its completely useless, for short range tempests looks in nearly all aspects better
meal has to top tempest at long range, because tempie will always remain a viable choice for that for several reasons:
higher alpha strike per gun (very important if you cant fire entire salvos, lag etc)
cheaper price tag ( 2 less t2 guns needed and tier 2 cheaper than tier 3)
better agility (faster aligning, faster getting out of bubbles with mwd)
a mere 6,6% higher dps and for longrange battles useless active tanking bonus simple dont give enough incentive to use the mael over a tempie
Originally by: Oveur
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.24 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: Tiuwaz
the maelstrom has to be a better sniper than otherwise its completely useless, for short range tempests looks in nearly all aspects better
meal has to top tempest at long range, because tempie will always remain a viable choice for that for several reasons:
higher alpha strike per gun (very important if you cant fire entire salvos, lag etc)
cheaper price tag ( 2 less t2 guns needed and tier 2 cheaper than tier 3)
better agility (faster aligning, faster getting out of bubbles with mwd)
a mere 6,6% higher dps and for longrange battles useless active tanking bonus simple dont give enough incentive to use the mael over a tempie
The most embarrassing thing is that any 8 slot battleship (Apoc etc) has higher alpha than the Tempests 6 guns with dmg bonus...
And yeah, to me, the Maelstrom looks like its going to sit at gates, tanking sentries, while killing people with autocannons. I dont really see it as a mission runner either... just compare the dps of artillery with t2 torpedoes. :p
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