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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.03 19:52:00 -
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Interesting. I had this sent over to me. Not sure how or why we were added to this list. I would be curious to here what the reasoning is Jade. Feel free to contact me either in this "Forum" or in game. If I can get access to See any war I will. Regardless of being on a "KOS" list. Luckly Biomass aloud me access to report on the event. I was there on Sunday when Biomass and there friends paid you a visit. Very interesting the happenings with Swoop. I wish I had his ship! Makes this "game" worth playing. It has been tough as of late staying interested in the day to day, ship building, mining and selling.
Where is Datselvu?? 
Crice-CEO Crice Corporation
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.03 20:02:00 -
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Many sources have convincingly described your corporation as a Dark Empire collaborator and piratical quisling outfit.
Biomass consider Crice a trused "friend" and supplier and supporter.
This is sufficient for the NVA to consider your people and ships KOS and valid war targets for future reprisals.
You must stand by the consequences for your actions m'dear.
Love and peace
JF Public Forum |

Slipaz
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Posted - 2003.11.03 20:05:00 -
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Jade ... Need to speak to you asap is there a out of game way to contact you as i dont trust the ingame methods :D
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2003.11.03 20:18:00 -
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Datsevlu?!?! What does Techell have to do w/ an NVA KOS List? The corps at war w/ Techell are mostly whining about the miner 2 "thing" or are doing it as a joke.
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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.03 20:23:00 -
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Edited by: crice on 03/11/2003 20:27:05
Quote:
Many sources have convincingly described your corporation as a Dark Empire collaborator and piratical quisling outfit.
Biomass consider Crice a trused "friend" and supplier and supporter.
This is sufficient for the NVA to consider your people and ships KOS and valid war targets for future reprisals.
You must stand by the consequences for your actions m'dear.
Love and peace
I love ISK. What can I say? I will sell you ships if you so needed them. I doubt Biomass would put us on a KOS list because we are a supplier. It is very hard to tell these days who is the dark and who is the light. Your damned if you do and damned if you don't.
I am Happy to hear Biomass considers us a Friend. We have many friends Pirate and Non-Pirate. SO far in this "game" I have seen more Alliances act likes pirates than those considered pirates. How can you tell? "leave my system or else". I believe it is called "The Dark Empire", and I will stand by my decisions. I can't make everyone happy. I suppose you also heard we sell to the FA,SA and NVA. No?
I haven't seen a corp out there that is willing to sell Scorpions for $50Mill, besides Crice Corp. Is this what happened to Techell? Alliances pointing the finger? Shame on you for targeting a supplier.
That is cute "Piratical quisling outfit". Is that like a Pirate Carebear? 
Peace Love and Happiness. LOL.
Crice-CEO of Crice Corp
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Sara Kerrigan
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Posted - 2003.11.03 20:31:00 -
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So.... why is PAK on that KOS list?... ______________
The Kerrigan Chronicles |

Gunni
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Posted - 2003.11.03 20:36:00 -
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i got my last 6 bs¦s from Techell... put them on your KOS list for selling ships to pirates.. 
------------------------------------- Gunni Viziam
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2003.11.03 20:38:00 -
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Quote: i got my last 6 bs¦s from Techell... put them on your KOS list for selling ships to pirates.. 
LOL... good one :)
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Gunni
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Posted - 2003.11.03 20:46:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: i got my last 6 bs¦s from Techell... put them on your KOS list for selling ships to pirates.. 
LOL... good one :)
its true... before moo declaret war on them i bought 6 bs¦s from them.. stil have a few of them sitting in their station in algogille...
------------------------------------- Gunni Viziam
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.03 20:47:00 -
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Sarah, your corporation is referred to as a Dark Empire "ally" by Biomass in several unclassified comms, and at least one classified intel source. Your ships have been seen cooporating with known Biomass allies.
If you have appeared wrongly on these lists you need to ask questions about why Biomass and the Dark Alliance consider you an ally.
NB.
I would point out at this stage that the NVA and our allies are actively searching for connections between the pirates of the Dark Empire/Biomass alliance and supportors and friends both pirate, and ostensibly legal.
As was our practise in the Taggart war, we will be pressing military attacks against those who support our enemies.
If there is ambiguity in your relations with Biomass and the Dark Empire (and) you do not wish to be targetted by our irregular forces, then it is up to your corp to distance your business from the theatre of operations and place clear blue water between your interests and theirs.
Consider carefully which set of friends will serve you best.
These pirates and allies are currently a fairly dominant force in Northern Lonetrek.
This may not always be the case,
And if they oneday leave it will be the quislings and collaborators that are left to pay the price in blood for their deprivations.
Choices need to be made.
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Sara Kerrigan
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Posted - 2003.11.03 20:53:00 -
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Quote:
Your ships have been seen cooporating with known Biomass allies.
That right there is 100% lie unless it has suddenly become a crime to pay for safe passage through blockades.
I don't recall ever having problems with the NVA but if you're trying to start something up with our little 3-man corp we're not the sort to back down. ______________
The Kerrigan Chronicles |

crice
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Posted - 2003.11.03 20:55:00 -
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Edited by: crice on 03/11/2003 21:06:53
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Sarah, your corporation is referred to as a Dark Empire "ally" by Biomass in several unclassified comms, and at least one classified intel source. Your ships have been seen cooporating with known Biomass allies.
If you have appeared wrongly on these lists you need to ask questions about why Biomass and the Dark Alliance consider you an ally.
NB.
I would point out at this stage that the NVA and our allies are actively searching for connections between the pirates of the Dark Empire/Biomass alliance and supportors and friends both pirate, and ostensibly legal.
As was our practise in the Taggart war, we will be pressing military attacks against those who support our enemies.
If there is ambiguity in your relations with Biomass and the Dark Empire (and) you do not wish to be targetted by our irregular forces, then it is up to your corp to distance your business from the theatre of operations and place clear blue water between your interests and theirs.
Consider carefully which set of friends will serve you best.
These pirates and allies are currently a fairly dominant force in Northern Lonetrek.
This may not always be the case,
And if they oneday leave it will be the quislings and collaborators that are left to pay the price in blood for their deprivations.
Choices need to be made.
I love smart women! Ruff Ruff... Is there a Dark Empire list of allies? I would love to see that. Maybe you could help with that Ms. Jade, or is it Mrs.?
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.03 20:56:00 -
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Sarah, thats the intel we have. If its false we will be happy to review the case. We have no interest in targetting the wrong people.
Please understand we get a lot of information from supporters and allies in the pirate territories ... a lot of our decisions are made on the balance of imperfect assessment and 70/30% bets.
I can confirm that your corp name does appear on internal Biomass allies lists however for whatever reason.
Still, please drop me an evemail in-game and we can discuss this.
JF Public Forum |

Mastema
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Posted - 2003.11.03 21:10:00 -
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Why is SI on this list?
Research with Duvolle Laboratories or you'll end up in the meat grinder!
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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.03 21:36:00 -
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Quote:
Sarah, your corporation is referred to as a Dark Empire "ally" by Biomass in several unclassified comms, and at least one classified intel source. Your ships have been seen cooporating with known Biomass allies.
If you have appeared wrongly on these lists you need to ask questions about why Biomass and the Dark Alliance consider you an ally.
NB.
I would point out at this stage that the NVA and our allies are actively searching for connections between the pirates of the Dark Empire/Biomass alliance and supportors and friends both pirate, and ostensibly legal.
As was our practise in the Taggart war, we will be pressing military attacks against those who support our enemies.
If there is ambiguity in your relations with Biomass and the Dark Empire (and) you do not wish to be targetted by our irregular forces, then it is up to your corp to distance your business from the theatre of operations and place clear blue water between your interests and theirs.
Consider carefully which set of friends will serve you best.
These pirates and allies are currently a fairly dominant force in Northern Lonetrek.
This may not always be the case,
And if they oneday leave it will be the quislings and collaborators that are left to pay the price in blood for their deprivations.
Choices need to be made.
Jade,
Well I will make sure to let my miner's know to beware of the NVA. LOL. I am sure you can find them in general asteroid belts doing what we do best.. MINE..... LOL
Alliances have never done anything for us except tell us to leave there belts or else? Who and what is a pirate?????
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Slinky Redfoot
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Posted - 2003.11.03 22:49:00 -
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Quote: I would point out at this stage that the NVA and our allies are actively searching for connections between the pirates of the Dark Empire/Biomass alliance and supportors and friends both pirate, and ostensibly legal.
As was our practise in the Taggart war, we will be pressing military attacks against those who support our enemies.
If there is ambiguity in your relations with Biomass and the Dark Empire (and) you do not wish to be targetted by our irregular forces, then it is up to your corp to distance your business from the theatre of operations and place clear blue water between your interests and theirs.
I've bought ships from both BSC and Techell in the last 2 weeks, i can provide screenshots as evidence.Please add both to the list.Thanks.
What, you're a hypocrite? Wont back up your arguement? I bet i could show this post to a Techell sales rep tonight, and still get that new caracal i ordered.
Got Banana? |

Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.03 23:18:00 -
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I hope thats not whining I can hear mr Crusader 10k?
(Watch your back)
;)
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Lottsa Pox
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Posted - 2003.11.04 00:07:00 -
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 Jade now your putting suppliers on your kos list. I have personally purchased a Battleship from techell and BSC and so far i havent seen them on your list. Its sorta funny everyone buys battleships but what now no one is supposed to make them. If that is the case then jade add just about every major manufacturer of battleships because we do buy a variety of items including battleships from them, I believe we even bought a merlin in venal so you need to list some venal corps on that KOS list.
We buy from whomever will sell to us and some people dont look at your corp tag if the sale is to be done in high sec space.
So is that KOS list getting bigger yet and if you didnt know yet crice corp has lost numereous ships to us. Crice specifically asked to come to record that event since he had never seen a big fleet battle and half the fleet kept targeting him thinking he was a target. And we did allow him to defend himself if he was shot at by even us since he wasnt doing and the fleets were to busy killing everything that moved.
Ohh well sorry to all those manufactering corporations it seems that you all will be placed on the dreaded NVA KOS list. Guess your not meant to earn isk as a business. 
Enjoy the game, I know I am
Lottsa Pox Pox to ya pod
BioMass Cartel Podding a system near you |

Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.04 00:14:00 -
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I think we all know the difference between the automated market trading system and the dodgy under the table handshake with known scumbags mr Pox.
Lets not insult the intelligence of the audience now.
Love and peace
JF Public Forum |

Lottsa Pox
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Posted - 2003.11.04 01:25:00 -
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:) just saying we buy from all walks of life.
Enjoy the game, I know I am
Lottsa Pox Pox to ya pod
BioMass Cartel Podding a system near you |

Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2003.11.04 01:39:00 -
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Yap Yap Jade ............
Ps nice to see you leading your troops ... explains a lot  Mongo speaks !!
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ChandraGupta
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Posted - 2003.11.04 02:46:00 -
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Crice am sure shes a "Miss" unless some very unfortunate bastard...... LOL
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2003.11.04 02:53:00 -
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Mongo Peck
KOS List ..
Jade "Mouthpiece" Constantine Jade "Dribble" Constantine Jade "Yap Yap" Constantine
Who cares .. you know where we are ..  Mongo speaks !!
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.04 03:26:00 -
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Tell you what ... we are bound to have an official post on corp forum sooner or later to explain the full range of KOS subjects for the war. Why don't you save your high-brow criticism for when I publicise that one mr Pecker. You are kinda wasted on this little threadlet ...
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2003.11.04 03:40:00 -
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Yap Yap Jade ... get a sense of humour ... Mongo speaks !!
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Insane Angel
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Posted - 2003.11.04 07:05:00 -
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Quote:
Quote:
Your ships have been seen cooporating with known Biomass allies.
That right there is 100% lie unless it has suddenly become a crime to pay for safe passage through blockades.
I don't recall ever having problems with the NVA but if you're trying to start something up with our little 3-man corp we're not the sort to back down.
How bout the assistance of blockades? And yes you are the sort to back down, come back to the old stomping grounds, well chase you away again.
Jade, for good reason you have Sara and her corp on that list. They assisted Diesel when he was with Shogunn, and as far as i have seen they continue to work with them.
And No Sara, claiming to be an innocent hired gun is no excuse... your just as bad as a rat if not worse.
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2003.11.04 11:20:00 -
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*snifels*
what did my poor corp do to end on that list, all we did was too shoot a few things 
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2003.11.04 11:41:00 -
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heres the way i see it.
Crice are on the KOS list because they help biomass, and im sure they are allied with them with mining and sorts as iv seen them together in local quite alot .
Although crice arent pirates, i still think they should be a target for NVA.
Got nothing to do with me, as im allied with no1, but just thought id say.
(crice, it was that mail u sent me way back that made me wonder, correct me if iv got the wrong impression).
Not sure about PAK, just think they are another smallish pirate corp trying to make a living.
good luck NVA, u will always have our support.
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Lilan Kahn
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Posted - 2003.11.04 11:48:00 -
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pak is a bunvh of npc farms not pirates blech get your fackts stright
<-- loves pak always some great items for sale
Originally by: Eris Discordia
We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2003.11.04 12:06:00 -
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Quote: pak is a bunvh of npc farms not pirates blech get your fackts stright
<-- loves pak always some great items for sale
Yeah, thats why soren is a -5.0 sec guy with a bounty .
got that from farming NPCs
get YOUR facts little lady . .
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Fairlane
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Posted - 2003.11.04 13:19:00 -
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arghh! kill em all
Wallhack... aimbot... You name it!!! RUKI VVERH ...MUSORA! |

Ch'ryl
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Posted - 2003.11.04 13:23:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: pak is a bunvh of npc farms not pirates blech get your fackts stright
<-- loves pak always some great items for sale
Yeah, thats why soren is a -5.0 sec guy with a bounty .
got that from farming NPCs
get YOUR facts little lady . .
Nope, he got at least some of that from attacking a bunch of miners in a .3 area. Not that I'm complaining, we had a fun fight with him and the lack of smack talk in local was refreshing. After dumping the indy I was flying at the time and going back for my Moa, three of us in cruisers managed to send his scorp away in flames (would have toasted it if he hadn't hit MWD to get away from the warp scramble we had on him ).
Why is it that when someone tells you that there are over a billion stars in the universe, you believe them, but if they tell you there is wet paint somewhere, you have to touch it to make sure? |

Jacob Molari
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Posted - 2003.11.04 15:21:00 -
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I'm going to post without reading everyone's replies, if someone else has already stated this, then I apologize but...
There is too much "Jade" on this thread for my liking.
PAK is on BM-C NAP (non aggression pact) list. From what I understand, BM-C is extracting free passage for toll from them, just like pirates do.
Crice is a business man, respect it. NVA may be self-sufficient today, but with Jade leading it, it is bound to collapse and the Former NVA will need allies. The CRICE folks are honorable business men/women.
Jade, you've missed your calling... With tactics like the above you would make a perfect ruthless pirate. I think the only thing keeping you from becoming a pirate is the lack of PvP skills. Talk to diesel, he'd love to teach you some PvP, if you know what I mean.
(TIP: Bring lots of battleships...)
As all can see who read, there is no "Black and White" in this game, just shades of gray. And Jades shade of gray is the darkest of them all.
~laters.
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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.04 15:35:00 -
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Edited by: crice on 04/11/2003 15:37:29
Quote: heres the way i see it.
Crice are on the KOS list because they help biomass, and im sure they are allied with them with mining and sorts as iv seen them together in local quite alot .
Although crice arent pirates, i still think they should be a target for NVA.
Got nothing to do with me, as im allied with no1, but just thought id say.
(crice, it was that mail u sent me way back that made me wonder, correct me if iv got the wrong impression).
Not sure about PAK, just think they are another smallish pirate corp trying to make a living.
good luck NVA, u will always have our support.
You all got me! You right! Man how did you all know! I love Biomass, I have a little place in a closet with candles and incense, with pictures of Killza. Ommmmm Ommmm OH Biomasss!
Shmucks! Blah Blah Blah. GO GET BIOMASS IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM!
Crice Corp had a problem with S.A.D a pirate corp and we declared war and went after them. We didn't spend anytime talking about it! Our corp went after them....
For all those that hate us because we sell ships. Shame on you! Like Narayan says.
"Don't hate the player hate the Game". Think about it!
Crice-CEO Crice Corp 
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Lara Janoz
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Posted - 2003.11.04 17:37:00 -
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Edited by: Lara Janoz on 04/11/2003 17:41:05 First of all attacking jade is getting realy old realy fast its a NVA list and not jades personal kos list.
Second all intel was reviewed and was dicided on by the NVA, if you think you shouldnt be on the list, contact the NVA, posting it here on the board only makes it worse, the harder you cry about the more ppl will think its true. Complaning here about makes you look ... well you can figure it out. Other thing ppl will think is you posted it here on porose to damge the NVA, you as business men should know that.
Then there is one more thing, i dont see techell at battles. You can only be nutral at a batle if both sides agree on that. if you go in to a batle along with one side and the other side sees you there, what would you think/do?
IMHO you made a bad business move being at that batle at that side. now stop whining about it like a carebear and live with it or do some thing about it.
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Stepping Razor
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Posted - 2003.11.04 17:43:00 -
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Edited by: Stepping Razor on 04/11/2003 18:06:48 [quote I love smart women! Ruff Ruff... Is there a Dark Empire list of allies? I would love to see that. Maybe you could help with that Ms. Jade, or is it Mrs.?
If there is a *complete* list of Dark Empire allies, including the front corporations they allude to but we can never confirm I'd like to know about it. They find indys pretty easy to blow up. S'pose I could too...
Razor
Originally by: Bonaventure Phaidon CCP is the best at at least three things: 1. Really, really fun gameplay 2. Good forum presence 3. Inventing new and exciting ways to bring about in-game catacly
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.04 17:44:00 -
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Jacob, you have been watching the wrong alliance if you have NVA confused with helpless naive carebears. We fight wars hard, and its not just about stand up fights.
You chaps brought this to our hearth and home and the principle here is that those collaborators that pay Biomass tribute to preserve their own existance as servile cringing dogs beneath the Dark Empire shadow will be made to pay a price for the honest and legitimate business driven to destruction by the iron fist of Biomass tyranny.
If you don't want to be associated with Biomass and the Dark Empire then get out. Move away.
If you don't care for your reputation then stay and count on the pirate alliance to defend you.
But don't act all surprised when the NVA hold your industrial mining operations to account with fire and sword and destructive raiding.
This is going to be a long war.
We have always known this.
Anyone that believed the NVA would fold after a single upset has obviously neglected to read their history lessons.
And Jacob, about your shades of gray;
Don't fool yourself, we don't hate you for being pirates, we aren't on some kind of CFS-style moral crusade here. We hate you because you have named your intent to harm our alliance and it is in our interest to eliminate your ability to do us harm.
In short,
We are fighting a war.
And we will target your allies and supporters because we want to win, and to preserve the NVA we have bled and sacrificed to build.
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Stepping Razor
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Posted - 2003.11.04 17:52:00 -
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Edited by: Stepping Razor on 04/11/2003 18:06:20 Edited by: Stepping Razor on 04/11/2003 18:00:07
Quote: Crice am sure shes a "Miss" unless some very unfortunate bastard...... LOL
[mild teasing retaliatory flame] You replace that Scorp yet?
Personally I was disappointed you and your 3 mates ran away (you in flames) before DT on Sunday. Woulda been much more fun to be in on your kill in a small action, then just hearing about it as a totally brutal bit of 60 on 1 pwnage from my mates later on Sunday. [/mild teasing retaliatory flame]
And yes, before you start whining, you and your 3 mates were outnumbered on Sunday AM, and you guys did have the guts to leave the station knowing we owned it and you guys did stand and fight and didn't run until you were obviously beaten. Good fight, my best to you and iznogood and the other 2 i forget the names of.
BTW no flame meant by this but, with all 4 of you guys shooting at me, how come you didn't get a kill on me? I was amazed, I didn't have to pop the MWD for a full minute after you guys all targetted me, the messages were all misses... Was I moving too fast to track, or was it bad range? I was glad I had those FoF's in my hold though, the speed at which you all targetted and jammed me after I jammed you was very impressive!
Oh, and to the original poster? How do you spell "disingenous"? Look it up. Crice had ships in the last 2 fleet engagements with Biomass, and entered Venal space both times without NVA permission and in the company of the Biomass warfleet. No reason on earth not to consider that hostile regardless of whether it is inconvenient for your corp's attempts to play both sides of the field/fence.
Razor
Originally by: Bonaventure Phaidon CCP is the best at at least three things: 1. Really, really fun gameplay 2. Good forum presence 3. Inventing new and exciting ways to bring about in-game catacly
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Jacob Molari
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Posted - 2003.11.04 18:40:00 -
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Interesting Jade,
I've been with BioMass for more than a month, but I've never heard them say... "Let's go attack the NVA to stir things up!!!"
Every attack up towards Venal has been a response to events precipitated by the NVA.
That big routing caused a week ago... remember it was the NVA that came down to Obe/Jan area, to make a statement.
BioMass just had the last laugh, that's all.
Most of BioMass would be content indirectly controlling that "Vale" area... by camping the choke points going up there. It really seems like hostile actions (fleet-sized) are initiated by the NVA.
Also, we call ourselves pirates, and to a large degree behave as such, but we fool no one as to whom we are or what we represent. Come our way, expect to get podded.
You, on the other hand... I've heard people saying "WTF?!?!?! I just got podded by the NVA for no reason!".
You let people think you are benign, and then make some assinine declaration and assert that anyone going near your space will be killed and podded...
Then those who miss the declaration get nailed, and you say tough.
Sounds "pirate-like" to me...
We don't deny who we are. Pirates. The NVA is far worse because no one really knows who you will meet in the NVA. Good Cop, or Bad Pirate...
I guess it all depends on whether Jade is PMS'ing or not... 
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Techie Zero
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Posted - 2003.11.04 18:41:00 -
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Quote:
I think we all know the difference between the automated market trading system and the dodgy under the table handshake with known scumbags mr Pox.
Lets not insult the intelligence of the audience now.
Love and peace
Oh? I bought a few Bestowers just 2 jumps from our hangout from a corp not on your list. Maybe those selling should not make the products available right in our backdoors and homes. Don't insult our intelligence either Sweetie.
There are MANY people who have supplied us with ammo and ships. I don't consider them Pirates, I consider them MERCHANTS.
Jade---your mouth has two sides. One side speaks of community and the other speaks of isolationism. You can't have it both ways and for this reason many are frustrated with the NVA, not that I care. You think you are the only person to hear 'things'? Many tell me 'things' about the NVA regardless if I ask or not.
To be even more frank Jade, I find your rhetoric akin to the Iraq Information Minister of the past. I enjoy reading and hearing your realities, laughing at your attempts of obfuscation and fantasyland ideals.
Believe it or not some see our fight with the NVA as just and you EVIL despite my attempts at being the 'bad' guy.
If this game had additional devices to nail you to a cross, it would have been done MONTHS ago.
I feel my ambivalence becoming thin with you Jade as I dream of the velvet skin of your warm neck in my grasp. Gods of chaos, help me find a swift end to this struggle.  EVE-I.com~THE Info source |

Stepping Razor
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Posted - 2003.11.04 18:44:00 -
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*Wanders in to see if this thread is still a mindless flamewar.* yup. *wanders out* Razor
Originally by: Bonaventure Phaidon CCP is the best at at least three things: 1. Really, really fun gameplay 2. Good forum presence 3. Inventing new and exciting ways to bring about in-game catacly
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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.04 19:18:00 -
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Jade,
It was nice speaking with you last night. I, at least know your stance and what you consider your logic behind the reasoning. We don't expect any of our customers to stick up for us. If we die another will take our place. We will continue to sell to anyone that wants to buy. Otherwise I might as well sell our BS BP's and start trading or mining in Todaki. I would rather go play SWG than go that route. I could fold at your request and lose our members, which essentially hurts EVE as a whole.
My point is I will accept the consequences to our actions. Regardless of what people think or say. We manufacture and sell ships and other items. Nothing more Nothing less. Non-Aggression Pacts are key to our business, I am not selling to people that will just pod us with our own creations. Business is Business. Biomass has there business and that is there business not mine.
Biomass has been good customers. I repect that. I also respect power. AND I DON'T EXPECT ANYONE IN THE "DARK Whatever" to fight for us or be our shield!!!
"Life is Hard".
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.04 19:18:00 -
[43]
Can only be a flame war if both sides flame. As far as this thread goes ... we are providing sensible, logical and well thought out responses, and the other side is attempting to blind us with their mastery of gutter rhetoric and palour-game conjurations.
As Jacob and Techie zero would have it, now Biomass are the good guys ;)
Still lets allow the viewing public to make up their mind shall we?
I'm not exactly counting on many more idealogical converts from the Biomass camp.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.04 19:32:00 -
[44]
Back to the "shades of gray" thing and the NVA being harsh; that is pretty much the name of the game. We held an open territory for a few weeks and for our pains were betrayed by turncoats and traitors sponsored by Biomass. That has taught us that Biomass must be eliminated if the NVA protectorate and charter is to be successful.
And yes, innocent people will be hurt in this war. But these things happen, and the cause of the NVA is sufficient and just to enable us to make hard decisions for the greater good.
An example here. A corporation named EveGHSTs has been trying to join the NVA for a few weeks. They flew with our fleets, and were beginning to build a good rep.
Then last night one of their members "Warmech" turns against us and sides with the traitor Hupa in a small action before joining Biomass.
In response the NVA have pleaced EveGHSTs as KOS and told them to get out of our territory.
Why have we done this ... I will let the conversation speak for itself: [ 2003.11.04 16:21:26 ] WarMechJH > they hired me?! i was their combat leader.... so... get them of the kos list [ 2003.11.04 16:22:15 ] Jade Constantine > well shows poor judgement on their part and to be honest a traitor like you wanting them off is reason to keep them on [ 2003.11.04 16:22:48 ] WarMechJH > hmpf [ 2003.11.04 16:23:21 ] Jade Constantine > people in this game have to start realising there are consequences for their actions [ 2003.11.04 16:23:46 ] WarMechJH > well you remember eve ghsts is trying to get in NVA? and they still try and then you put them at KOS:P [ 2003.11.04 16:24:01 ] Jade Constantine > yes and now they never will get in [ 2003.11.04 16:24:23 ] WarMechJH > thats stupid tho [ 2003.11.04 16:24:32 ] Jade Constantine > not at all we have been hurt by traitors [ 2003.11.04 16:24:43 ] WarMechJH > yes it is :P why punish the whole corp? [ 2003.11.04 16:24:54 ] Jade Constantine > they have shown a massive lack of judgement to be associated with you [ 2003.11.04 16:24:58 ] WarMechJH > why not only me? [ 2003.11.04 16:25:14 ] Jade Constantine > because we hold corps accountable for the actions of their members [ 2003.11.04 16:25:19 ] WarMechJH > they never did bad things like pod/kill [ 2003.11.04 16:25:33 ] Jade Constantine > they had you in their corp [ 2003.11.04 16:25:49 ] WarMechJH > how could that knew i became pirate [ 2003.11.04 16:26:13 ] Jade Constantine > i would know if one of my guys was flaky [ 2003.11.04 16:26:31 ] WarMechJH > i try to be nice and put them off kos and leave them alone and yu may put me on kos i dont care but get them off kos list [ 2003.11.04 16:26:39 ] Jade Constantine > nope ôyouö aren't on kos [ 2003.11.04 16:26:49 ] WarMechJH > well i tried [ 2003.11.04 16:26:55 ] Jade Constantine > you are too irrelevant m'dear [ 2003.11.04 16:26:56 ] WarMechJH > i am im in biomass [ 2003.11.04 16:27:03 ] Jade Constantine > well thatÆs biomass [ 2003.11.04 16:27:16 ] WarMechJH > so thatÆs all members [ 2003.11.04 16:27:19 ] Jade Constantine > you are just a tiny little cog in the great machine [ 2003.11.04 16:28:24 ] WarMechJH > so im on your kos list because biomass is a corp so every1 in it is on kos [ 2003.11.04 16:28:39 ] Jade Constantine > but not specifically thatÆs the point [ 2003.11.04 16:28:55 ] WarMechJH > why donÆt you put my name on KOS and get ghsts off it [ 2003.11.04 16:29:10 ] Jade Constantine > because you are too irrelevant and we are making an example of corps that that have turncoats [ 2003.11.04 16:29:40 ] WarMechJH > can you just put them off kos.... [ 2003.11.04 16:29:45 ] Jade Constantine > nope [ 2003.11.04 16:29:47 ] WarMechJH > they didnÆt do anything..... [ 2003.11.04 16:29:53 ] Jade Constantine > they had you in their corp [ 2003.11.04 16:30:05 ] WarMechJH > i aint now! [ 2003.11.04 16:30:06 ] Jade Constantine > that shows a massive lack of judgement if we had let Eves Ghsts join NVA we would now have another traitor (you) and by endangering us like that Eves Ghsts deserve KOS [ 2003.11.04 16:31:04 ] WarMechJH > ok nice to talk with you i tried cya [ 2003.11.04 16:31:22 ] Jade Constantine > bye bye
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Sara Kerrigan
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Posted - 2003.11.04 19:44:00 -
[45]
I agree with crice. I've been a supplier of illegal (non-SCC) modules, and yes I do sell to known pirates. In this business, ISK has no security status. But there is also another side to this. I've known many of these pirates since the early days of the game, and I have no intention of turning on our friendship to save my own arse. Nor do I need their protection.
I haven't been a pirate (maybe some day i will, to be honest), and I haven't taken part in their actions. I made it clear to them that I would have no part in their campaign against the NVA--it means nothing to me. If you wish to put me on a KOS list I respect your decision. But know that if the line is crossed, I can likewise provide the same courtesy.
PS - I also have many customers within the NVA (like I said, I supply for anyone that isn't out to kill me). Will you be informing them not to buy from me, or will I need to tell them myself? ______________
The Kerrigan Chronicles |

Soren
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Posted - 2003.11.04 19:45:00 -
[46]
Quote:
Yeah, thats why soren is a -5.0 sec guy with a bounty .
got that from farming NPCs
get YOUR facts little lady . .
I just like to have a little fun once and a while  _________________________________________________________
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Easy Target
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Posted - 2003.11.04 19:59:00 -
[47]
yeah, and err.. what did we do?? :-)
Easy Target ----------------------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------
No i'm not good... but i have never claimed to be -------------------- Moments of genius |

Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.04 20:08:00 -
[48]
lol Easy Target, a little bird told me you guys just like to be on KOS lists ;)
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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.04 20:14:00 -
[49]
Jade,
That is just Wrong. I disagree with you on that one. Sounds like one bad seed? Why try to punish everyone? NVA can't destroy everyone. Come on your trying to hold everyone accountable for just wanting more out of this game. God knows CCP isn't keeping up with content.
I bet EveGHSTs have some really nice guys that want to be a part of NVA and want to help rid eve of pirates, and you not only turn your back on them you say "NVA is going to Kill You". That makes very little sense to me. That sounds worse than what Bio does. At least people in EVE know where Bio stands. Biomass is clear and concise. You know if you head into there region you will be podded.
I understand you may have spies you need to get rid of, or corps you can't trust or add no value to the NVA.. But, I don't think it is right to target peeps just because there trying to make a living in eve.
Innocent people? Is that not pirating?
I am off my soap box now. 
Peace Love and ISK!!!
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Techie Zero
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Posted - 2003.11.04 20:23:00 -
[50]
Quote: You all got me! You right! Man how did you all know! I love Biomass, I have a little place in a closet with candles and incense, with pictures of Killza. Ommmmm Ommmm OH Biomasss!
Do you have triptychs of Killza and Sohail like me?  EVE-I.com~THE Info source |

Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.04 20:25:00 -
[51]
Crice, if we had let EveGHSTs join when they wanted to, by now they would have secure forum access, mil command access and WarmechMJ would have access to fleet command information.
His treachery might well have cost a dozen loyal members of the NVA their ships and caused a billion isk hit to the alliance.
So yes,
We hold corporations accountable for their membership.
If you are interested in joining the NVA then make sure your traitors are well and truly shaken down and shown the door.
And for EveGHST's I would say this.
KOS in this instance means we don't want to see your ships in our territory, not that we will make a point of hunting you down.
If you want to see this made good then you need to punish WarmechMJ extensively from your own resources.
And Crice, as I said to you last night,
Your collaboration with Biomass Cartel disqualilfies your corporation from moral standing. Your decisions are your own, but you do not profit from the actions of the greatest murderers of innocent shipping in Eve and then come here with any sort of right or platform to condemn the actions of others.
You have stated your position - morally neutral on the actions of Biomass and happy to profit from the relationship. You therefore have no right to make moral judgements on the actions of others.
Love and peace
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Slinky Redfoot
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Posted - 2003.11.04 20:38:00 -
[52]
Edited by: Slinky Redfoot on 04/11/2003 20:44:22 Jade my dear, i have a chatlog of my own:
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Channelname: Raven DeBlade conversation Listener: Slinky Redfoot Session started: 2003.11.04 00:30:20
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[ 2003.11.04 00:30:31 ] Slinky Redfoot > Hi [ 2003.11.04 00:31:01 ] Slinky Redfoot > Are you still selling caracals? saw your ad on the IRC bot [ 2003.11.04 00:31:23 ] Raven DeBlade > yes i think we have some left [ 2003.11.04 00:31:47 ] Slinky Redfoot > what was the price again? [ 2003.11.04 00:32:21 ] Raven DeBlade > think 3,5 now [ 2003.11.04 00:32:31 ] Slinky Redfoot > ok [ 2003.11.04 00:32:47 ] Slinky Redfoot > are they on the market? where do i pick one up [ 2003.11.04 00:33:20 ] Raven DeBlade > in Nonni, ill put them out on market now [ 2003.11.04 00:33:29 ] Slinky Redfoot > cheers
Thats NVA selling me, a known 10KAD member a ship, which i will use to kill Hardcorps members with.Now i know you're spineless, and wont put them on your precious little KoS list.But it does show what a gestapo outfit you're running, Jade. 
You said it yourself...
Quote: [ 2003.11.04 16:23:21 ] Jade Constantine > people in this game have to start realising there are consequences for their actions
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Techie Zero
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Posted - 2003.11.04 20:38:00 -
[53]
Quote:
As Jacob and Techie zero would have it, now Biomass are the good guys ;)
Death is too good for her...
I have been polite and courteous in response to your name calling Jade, but this has gone to far! WITCH! Damn you to the deepest darkest hell known to the entire universe after you have served a time of intolerable treatment under my servitude! 
I promise a just reward for any who can deliver this wench to me!!!  EVE-I.com~THE Info source |

crice
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Posted - 2003.11.04 20:50:00 -
[54]
Quote:
Crice, if we had let EveGHSTs join when they wanted to, by now they would have secure forum access, mil command access and WarmechMJ would have access to fleet command information.
His treachery might well have cost a dozen loyal members of the NVA their ships and caused a billion isk hit to the alliance.
So yes,
We hold corporations accountable for their membership.
If you are interested in joining the NVA then make sure your traitors are well and truly shaken down and shown the door.
And for EveGHST's I would say this.
KOS in this instance means we don't want to see your ships in our territory, not that we will make a point of hunting you down.
If you want to see this made good then you need to punish WarmechMJ extensively from your own resources.
And Crice, as I said to you last night,
Your collaboration with Biomass Cartel disqualilfies your corporation from moral standing. Your decisions are your own, but you do not profit from the actions of the greatest murderers of innocent shipping in Eve and then come here with any sort of right or platform to condemn the actions of others.
You have stated your position - morally neutral on the actions of Biomass and happy to profit from the relationship. You therefore have no right to make moral judgements on the actions of others.
Love and peace
Ok your right.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.04 20:50:00 -
[55]
Slinky Redfoot,
You really don't get it do you m'dear. Just because we might be seen as the "good guys" in this, doesn't mean we have to play by rules defined in your comic books.
Shall I say it one more time for effect?
Corporations that profit from the misery of innocent shipping have no right to question the morality of other actions.
And by the by,
You should try logging in and checking your corp channels and mail.
I think you might find out some things about your place in this struggle.
Run along now.
JF Public Forum |

Lara Janoz
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Posted - 2003.11.04 20:54:00 -
[56]
Quote: Jade,
That is just Wrong. I disagree with you on that one. Sounds like one bad seed? Why try to punish everyone? NVA can't destroy everyone. Come on your trying to hold everyone accountable for just wanting more out of this game. God knows CCP isn't keeping up with content.
I bet EveGHSTs have some really nice guys that want to be a part of NVA and want to help rid eve of pirates, and you not only turn your back on them you say "NVA is going to Kill You". That makes very little sense to me. That sounds worse than what Bio does. At least people in EVE know where Bio stands. Biomass is clear and concise. You know if you head into there region you will be podded.
I understand you may have spies you need to get rid of, or corps you can't trust or add no value to the NVA.. But, I don't think it is right to target peeps just because there trying to make a living in eve.
Innocent people? Is that not pirating?
I am off my soap box now. 
Peace Love and ISK!!!
Get of your high horse. ill give you a simple exemple you will ( hope fully ) understand.
Lets say me and a member from crise corp get in a gang togher and shoot down hannes from BIO or a SI.
now be honnest what you think will happen ?
let me tell you the least that will happen, your corp will not be trusted with any thing again by the dork alliance.
ps. for the SI out there waiting to react, i know you guys like to shoot each other so dont give me that crap, we are taking of a act of betrail here.
Dont think you are, know you are. |

Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.04 21:26:00 -
[57]
Anyway since this dicussion has caused such hilarity already, here is the full public list, which may also be viewed at the NVA forums in the public section.
New Venal Alliance:
Members List
[BLADE] Bladerunners [C.C] Cult of Cthulhu [CDI] Cyberdyne Industries [CPDS] Copiae Dius [DI] Draconic Industries [FGH] Fighters of Heineken [INF] Infinicorp [JERIC] Jericho Fraction [LUMMA] General Snus [KIA] KIA Corp [MDI] Manifest Destiny Inc. [OI] Oberon Incorporated [OCC] Occassus Republica [ROHAN] Riders of Rohan [RKK] Reikoku [RONA] Rona Corporation [TWC] The Whitesand Consortium
Military or Industrial Allies
[BBBB] Big Bang Burger Bar [BSC] British Space Corp. [CAR] Carbide Industries [CON] Conman Enterprises [C-C] Cryogenic Consultancy [DCINC] Dreamcatchers Inc. [EVO] Evolution [HDY] Hadean Drive Yards [GODS] Generals of Destruction Syndicate [LUCA] Lucri Causa [PID] Pardon Inc [PAIN] The Pain Syndicate [SWC] Solar Wind [T-N-T] Tahiti Twisters [TWB] The Wolf Brigade [XAN] Xanadu
Enemy (Corps) War Status KOS - Engage freely
[10KAD] Crusaders 10000AD [BM-C] Biomass Cartel [CRICE] Crice Corporation [CRUIS] Mercenary Cruisers [FRIG] Mercenary Frigates [GHSTS] Eve's Ghsts [HOOD] Hooded Figures Inc [JOKER] Jokers Corp [MOO] MOO [NOVA] Terra Nova Corp [PAK] PAK [RAVEN] Ravens of Valhalla [SPVD] Space Invaders [TDG] Tundragon [TLBC] The Legitimate Businessmans Club [VALK] Valkyrie Enterprises [ZOMB] Zombie Inc
Unknown ships in Venal:
Venal and the northern regions are closed to non-NVA non Military Ally shipping.
Thank you for listening. Any enquiries or issues please contact me or another council member in-game.
JF Public Forum |

Mastema
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Posted - 2003.11.04 21:29:00 -
[58]
Edited by: Mastema on 04/11/2003 21:29:56 Jade, no flaming or anything here, how much isk would it cost for you to come on our ts server and sing?
Research with Duvolle Laboratories or you'll end up in the meat grinder!
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Techie Zero
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Posted - 2003.11.04 21:55:00 -
[59]
Quote:
Anyway since this dicussion has caused such hilarity already, here is the full public list, which may also be viewed at the NVA forums in the public section.
New Venal Alliance:
Members List
[BLADE] Bladerunners [C.C] Cult of Cthulhu [CDI] Cyberdyne Industries [CPDS] Copiae Dius [DI] Draconic Industries [FGH] Fighters of Heineken [INF] Infinicorp [JERIC] Jericho Fraction [LUMMA] General Snus [KIA] KIA Corp [MDI] Manifest Destiny Inc. [OI] Oberon Incorporated [OCC] Occassus Republica [ROHAN] Riders of Rohan [RKK] Reikoku [RONA] Rona Corporation [TWC] The Whitesand Consortium
Military or Industrial Allies
[BBBB] Big Bang Burger Bar [BSC] British Space Corp. [CAR] Carbide Industries [CON] Conman Enterprises [C-C] Cryogenic Consultancy [DCINC] Dreamcatchers Inc. [EVO] Evolution [HDY] Hadean Drive Yards [GODS] Generals of Destruction Syndicate [LUCA] Lucri Causa [PID] Pardon Inc [PAIN] The Pain Syndicate [SWC] Solar Wind [T-N-T] Tahiti Twisters [TWB] The Wolf Brigade [XAN] Xanadu
Enemy (Corps) War Status KOS - Engage freely
[10KAD] Crusaders 10000AD [BM-C] Biomass Cartel [CRICE] Crice Corporation [CRUIS] Mercenary Cruisers [FRIG] Mercenary Frigates [GHSTS] Eve's Ghsts [HOOD] Hooded Figures Inc [JOKER] Jokers Corp [MOO] MOO [NOVA] Terra Nova Corp [PAK] PAK [RAVEN] Ravens of Valhalla [SPVD] Space Invaders [TDG] Tundragon [TLBC] The Legitimate Businessmans Club [VALK] Valkyrie Enterprises [ZOMB] Zombie Inc
Unknown ships in Venal:
Venal and the northern regions are closed to non-NVA non Military Ally shipping.
Thank you for listening. Any enquiries or issues please contact me or another council member in-game.
Thanks for hard work on this this list Jade, for now it will serve as the enemy of my enemy is my FRIEND list. 
Evolution? Really? Oh that's right...the non-consentual trading partner of the NVA...just don't call them PIRATES.  EVE-I.com~THE Info source |

crice
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Posted - 2003.11.04 22:27:00 -
[60]
Quote:
Anyway since this dicussion has caused such hilarity already, here is the full public list, which may also be viewed at the NVA forums in the public section.
New Venal Alliance:
Members List
[BLADE] Bladerunners [C.C] Cult of Cthulhu [CDI] Cyberdyne Industries [CPDS] Copiae Dius [DI] Draconic Industries [FGH] Fighters of Heineken [INF] Infinicorp [JERIC] Jericho Fraction [LUMMA] General Snus [KIA] KIA Corp [MDI] Manifest Destiny Inc. [OI] Oberon Incorporated [OCC] Occassus Republica [ROHAN] Riders of Rohan [RKK] Reikoku [RONA] Rona Corporation [TWC] The Whitesand Consortium
Military or Industrial Allies
[BBBB] Big Bang Burger Bar [BSC] British Space Corp. [CAR] Carbide Industries [CON] Conman Enterprises [C-C] Cryogenic Consultancy [DCINC] Dreamcatchers Inc. [EVO] Evolution [HDY] Hadean Drive Yards [GODS] Generals of Destruction Syndicate [LUCA] Lucri Causa [PID] Pardon Inc [PAIN] The Pain Syndicate [SWC] Solar Wind [T-N-T] Tahiti Twisters [TWB] The Wolf Brigade [XAN] Xanadu
Enemy (Corps) War Status KOS - Engage freely
[10KAD] Crusaders 10000AD [BM-C] Biomass Cartel [CRICE] Crice Corporation [CRUIS] Mercenary Cruisers [FRIG] Mercenary Frigates [GHSTS] Eve's Ghsts [HOOD] Hooded Figures Inc [JOKER] Jokers Corp [MOO] MOO [NOVA] Terra Nova Corp [PAK] PAK [RAVEN] Ravens of Valhalla [SPVD] Space Invaders [TDG] Tundragon [TLBC] The Legitimate Businessmans Club [VALK] Valkyrie Enterprises [ZOMB] Zombie Inc
Unknown ships in Venal:
Venal and the northern regions are closed to non-NVA non Military Ally shipping.
Thank you for listening. Any enquiries or issues please contact me or another council member in-game.
No love! No love at all! *sniff *sniff
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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.04 22:35:00 -
[61]
Edited by: crice on 04/11/2003 22:36:22 --------------------
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PropanElgen
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Posted - 2003.11.05 02:40:00 -
[62]
Hey Jade, this is only a game. Snap out of it already!
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away... Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.05 04:10:00 -
[63]
Quote: Hey Jade, this is only a game. Snap out of it already!
*smiles* I know its a game you sweet little man. But you see, I am one of those roleplayers you hear about, and I like to pretend we are actually alliance leaders and strategists planning the clash of fleets and establishment of regional governments in lawless territories ... its called suspension of disbelief.
But I promise you I don't really hate these guys in reality ... there is no danger I will blow up mr Crice's house for being a quisling collaborator in game;)
Love and peace
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Gunn Diesel
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Posted - 2003.11.05 07:53:00 -
[64]
wtf? who the hell is "Dark Empire" does Jade even know who she is fighting? lol...too funny thats a corp name you silly muppet! we are the "Forsaken Empire" so go hump your cows or whatever it is you do out there....  
" Dont hate the playa... Hate the game. "
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Lord ofRedemption
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Posted - 2003.11.05 09:06:00 -
[65]
Quote: wtf? who the hell is "Dark Empire" does Jade even know who she is fighting? lol...too funny thats a corp name you silly muppet! we are the "Forsaken Empire" so go hump your cows or whatever it is you do out there....  
Biomass,we know who we are fighting,Hang on,YEH i remember its that fleet of piartes who all ran from venal last weeknd..and looks like you Flame away...I love these forums you guys are so easy to wind up. _____________
Retirement closing in .
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Maule
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Posted - 2003.11.05 09:41:00 -
[66]
hehe
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Dontius Tarris
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Posted - 2003.11.05 10:51:00 -
[67]
Quote:
Unknown ships in Venal:
Venal and the northern regions are closed to non-NVA non Military Ally shipping.
Thank you for listening. Any enquiries or issues please contact me or another council member in-game.
Anyone recall what happend last time Jade gave this order?
Ezekiel, chapter 25:17 : And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them.
Quote: Thoes who do not learn from History are bound to repeat it!
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.05 13:04:00 -
[68]
Quote: wtf? who the hell is "Dark Empire" does Jade even know who she is fighting? lol...too
lol its "Dork Empire" you numpty! Biomice and Space Muppets ... everyone knows that ;)
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Techie Zero
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Posted - 2003.11.05 14:23:00 -
[69]
Quote: ...its "Dork Empire" ...
Yes and we are HUGE. 
Open wide Jade!  EVE-I.com~THE Info source |

Easy Target
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Posted - 2003.11.05 16:09:00 -
[70]
Quote: [FRIG] Mercenary Frigates
still hanging on in there.... :-)
Nowt like being carefull againt the big guns is there.. and that my dear is NOWT like being careful against big guns... :-)
Easy Target preparing to rock around the christmas tree.... ----------------------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------
No i'm not good... but i have never claimed to be -------------------- Moments of genius |

Tevel Geikon
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Posted - 2003.11.05 18:47:00 -
[71]
Quote:
...
Enemy (Corps) War Status KOS - Engage freely
[10KAD] Crusaders 10000AD [BM-C] Biomass Cartel [CRICE] Crice Corporation [CRUIS] Mercenary Cruisers [FRIG] Mercenary Frigates [GHSTS] Eve's Ghsts [HOOD] Hooded Figures Inc [JOKER] Jokers Corp [MOO] MOO [NOVA] Terra Nova Corp [PAK] PAK [RAVEN] Ravens of Valhalla [SPVD] Space Invaders [TDG] Tundragon [TLBC] The Legitimate Businessmans Club [VALK] Valkyrie Enterprises [ZOMB] Zombie Inc
...
*sigh* Coming home from my vacation from the labs and reading this news after the 'I'm leaving to try out pirating'-mail from WarMech makes me feel so comfy :). I know that I frequently 'research BPs to death' but surely hope this doesn't count against my corp.
Naw.. sarcasm aside. ;)
I think this reaction, despite the obvious security concerns, a bit harsh. I guess with a bit more restricted access, for begining members (meaning applying corps here), to your channels with sensitive informations sure would lessen the potential damage that could be done by fresh members of the NVA. Even with those measures you could never be totally sure of the loyalty of any of the corps that are members of your alliance. As with every corp taking in new members, an alliance takes risks because of the simple fact that you don't know the applicant from the first day on but get to know him over time. In this case judging a corp by the actions of one of his members, who felt the itch in his palms to try out pirating, would be the same as judging every new pilot to the vast reaches of EVE by the actions of one of those scammers that take out corp hangars and disappear to be never seen again - resulting in you never wanting to recruit any new members to one of your corps or even placing them on your KOS list.
In later as in the first case you normally judge the individual and pursue him. This way it is normally done.
As a last comment, I want to make clear, that this was my very personal opinion on that matter.
EVE's GHSTS - Research & Production Division ___________
Time only exists, so that everything doesn't happen simultaneously.
Albert Einstein |

Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.05 19:48:00 -
[72]
Tevel Geikon,
Third or fourth time its happened; NVA council is getting heartily sick of it. We blame sloppy recruiting standards and poor man-management of corporations for this kind of thing.
If a corporation wishes to function and be taken seriously it must be extremely protective of its reputation. It is the job of corporate offices to sniff out potential traitors like WarmechMJ before they have the opportunity to turn their coats in battle and cause harm.
If your corporation has neither the time nor the inclination nor the ability to make sure its own house is in order with regard to security risks and moles and traitors etc, then you really had no business applying to join a regional alliance.
WarmechMJ has harmed your reputation greatly.
If you can show us that you have the will and the ability to punish this former employee than the future holds the possibility of negotiation and ammedment of political decisions.
But you need to sort our this problem.
It is not our job to target your traitors to clear your name.
Incidently,
Had this pilot merely quit your corp; avoided the region, and then later joined Biomass or misc pirates to get his kicks ... this matter would not have been viewed so seriously.
Instead he used your corporate name to gain the confidence of our fleet, built relations and trust with our pilots. And then turn his coat at a dramatic moment to join the infamous Hupa in an attempt to ambush and harm NVA interests.
Fortunately Hupa's piloting is as poor as his reputation and taste in allies, and failing to make an impression on the NVA patrol was forced to cowardly log-off in a humiliating effort to save his Raven battleship from a richly deserved annihilation.
But the fact remains ... Eve GHST's allowed this viper WarmechMJ to get into position to harm us, and frankly, dealing with the fallout from his treachery ... is ... your problem.
Love and peace
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2003.11.05 20:14:00 -
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As for this current political "crisis" with the NVA vs PAK, CRICE and any other "bystander" corporation. I'm sure that the NVA council has some sort of basis for it. One good thing is that they don't back down and concede on these issues unless the NVA is clearly wrong in the matter. I've also noticed that despite endless taunting and ranting from it's foes the NVA tends to be "fairly" level-headed and listens to what people have to say.
On a side note to the NVA and on behalf of my own corporation...
The NVA list has just been changed huh...
I noticed my corp was removed. Me and my men operate out of NVA protected space too often to be removed from the military/industrial list for whatever reason. If the NAP is/is not still in effect then let us know.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.05 20:42:00 -
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Probably an oversight, we were trying to prune the list of mil/industrial allies down to people who actually still needed it and/or wanted to commit aid.
Also bare in mind NVA space is only closed in Venal and northern regions. Its possible to operate in PB/K-Tay/Fade etc with no specific treaty.
If you do need a continuance of the Mil/industrial ally status lets have a chat, we can always use more help in to fight the good fight monsieur ... and the merc budget always needs topping up ;)
Love and peace
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2003.11.05 20:48:00 -
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Edited by: Rizmordan Hillgotlieb on 05/11/2003 20:50:01 Understood... thanks. I'll be in contact.
(Just finished putting the 2nd coat of wax on the old Dominix while at Lai Dai station in Torrinos)
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Tevel Geikon
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Posted - 2003.11.05 21:20:00 -
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Edited by: Tevel Geikon on 05/11/2003 21:23:36 Dear Jade,
I wholeheartedly agree with you in the opinion that the reputation of a corporation is its most valuable asset and that it must be protected by appropriate means.
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If a corporation wishes to function and be taken seriously it must be extremely protective of its reputation. It is the job of corporate offices to sniff out potential traitors like WarmechMJ before they have the opportunity to turn their coats in battle and cause harm.
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Definitely agreed.
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Well, I'm a fairly new member to the corp EVE's GHSTS so I'm in no position to evaluate the management departement of it but as my impression goes during my time there (it has been a bit over two weeks now) the management has proven quite capable in leading our corporation. Regarding WarMechMJ I have to say that he joined corp after me so I leave it to you evaluating the time available to assess the characteristical traits and capabilities of an individual (read combat pilot in case of WarMech) especially when you have not much military activity because of the simple fact that we are a mining and production corp.
That our corp has the inclination of keeping its own house in order you can see in the fact that we rejected WarMechMJs 'reapplication' as he seemingly found the pirating life not to his liking.
On one further note I'd like to say that moles, traitors and other risks are exactly that. You can minimize the 'risk' of them getting a foot into your corp but you can't eliminate it. Imagine for a moment, that WarMechMJ had not decided to join a pirate corp while our application to your alliance was still in progress but say... 3 weeks afterwards (assuming an acceptance here on your part just for the argument). He would have done his job in the alliance the same way as he had in our corp (protecting mining ops from NPC pirates, mining and the like). It would have been the same problem for you identifying him as a pilot who would like to try out pirating just for the fun of it. I think it would be impossible for even you to ell with 100% certaintiy, that there are no moles in your corp or alliance at this very moment, lying low.
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No doubt about that here.
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If you can show us that you have the will and the ability to punish this former employee than the future holds the possibility of negotiation and ammedment of political decisions.
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I think we can savely assume, that we would be very glad to do that. And most likely we would have a good chance on that if he would now lead the life of a solo pirate. Since our corp counts 12 member at this very moment, from whom a few (me included) are not the very skilled battle pilots (I'm a scientist for that matter) it might be a BIT difficult for us to go after him AND his Biomass companions on our very own (since it can safely be assumed, that he won't fly around solo most of the time). So aside from claiming the good will to clear the reputation of EVE's GHSTS there might be not very much for us to do ALONE (comparing 12 members from EVE's GHSTS to 112 members Biomass Cartel there).
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But you need to sort our this problem.
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Totally agree with you there again.
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It is not our job to target your traitors to clear your name.
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No it is not. But as far as I remember the history of your alliance you always had a formidable way to deal with corps or people who attacked you. But in this case I can hardly fail to notice that you definitely excluded WarMechMJ from your KOS list, despite his attack on your alliance members, while placing us there. Just out of curiosity I would really like to know why the sudden change of heart?
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Incidently,
Had this pilot merely quit your corp; avoided the region, and then later joined Biomass or misc pirates to get his kicks ... this matter would not have been viewed so seriously.
Instead he used your corporate name to gain the confidence of our fleet, ...
... But the fact remains ... Eve GHST's allowed this viper WarmechMJ to get into position to harm us, and frankly, dealing with the fallout from his treachery ... is ... your problem. ...
As far as I remember the description of the Biomass Cartel on there info, it says that they only recruit by invitation. So my guess in this matter is (as I was on vacation from my lab duties at the time these evens occured) that it might have been a test from Biomass for him to proove that he really meant to join
EVE's GHSTS - Research & Production Division ___________
Time only exists, so that everything doesn't happen simultaneously.
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Tevel Geikon
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Posted - 2003.11.05 21:28:00 -
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Edited by: Tevel Geikon on 05/11/2003 21:32:03 Edited by: Tevel Geikon on 05/11/2003 21:29:44 their ranks and the lifestyle of a pirate. As far as allowing his acts against you goes, that would need knowledge of his plans or actions from our side, which we definitely didn't have. So it is safe to assume that we didn't allow it. Regarding the consequences of his actions, they definitely are a problem to us, since we, as a starting up corporation simply don't have the means to fight WarMechMJ and his Biomass buddies. And being on your KOS list surely helps us rectify this situaton a lot.
All the best to you Mylady
As always, the above two posts are my very own opinion on that matter
//edit for disclaimer ;)
EVE's GHSTS - Research & Production Division ___________
Time only exists, so that everything doesn't happen simultaneously.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.05 21:32:00 -
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Tevel, we are in agreement on most issues I think so I will offer clarification on these ones only;
Quote: No it is not. But as far as I remember the history of your alliance you always had a formidable way to deal with corps or people who attacked you.
Rest assured we intend to destroy the Biomass alliance by a multitude of means and strategies.
Quote: But in this case I can hardly fail to notice that you definitely excluded WarMechMJ from your KOS list, despite his attack on your alliance members, while placing us there.
We only maintain personal KOS for corp thieves not war enemies. Since WarmechMJ joined Biomass he is KOS anyway. If he leaves Biomass we will KOS his new corp in all likelihood.
Quote: Just out of curiosity I would really like to know why the sudden change of heart?
I think you will see its not a change of heart.
Love and peace
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Tevel Geikon
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Posted - 2003.11.05 22:02:00 -
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Dear Jade,
since I guess that my CEO will talk with you further about this matter, I just want to be sure about one thing.
Does the KOS status for our corp members apply for every encounter of our ships, the NVA protectorate or just inside NVA territory?
I wish you a good night and until we meet under (hopefully) friendlier conditions,
Tevel
EVE's GHSTS - Research & Production Division ___________
Time only exists, so that everything doesn't happen simultaneously.
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Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2003.11.05 22:38:00 -
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I agree with lara--calling Jade a hypocrite because of something on the NVA list of Allies & Enemies is like calling Ted Kennedy a Republican because the U.S. Congress is pursuing a generally Republican agenda.
Your attacking of Jade really is getting old. Jade is a PR Rep and a council member. She has always been a vocal leader, but NVA is a democracy.
I know you want the world to believe that NVA is Jade's baby, and that she rules by edict. Nothing could be further from the truth. Jade can generally handle herself in these little flame wars, but I want to set the record straight.
A gripe with NVA policies is a grips against the NVA, and *****ing to Jade about it accomplishes nothing.
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Reptar
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Posted - 2003.11.06 03:23:00 -
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I was the only pilot in Eve's Ghosts who knew he had an invitation to biomass. As i understand a friend of his asked him if he was with NVA, he said no and got an invitation. For the next several hours in the corp channel he was saying things like "Ive been invited to biomass" . No corp directors, or fighters anybody who could do anything about him were online. I could hardly go against him ive lost 5 ships in 2 days, just got a corp osprey. Also i am no diplomat if i should have acted in any other way im sorry.... Take Eve's Ghsts of the KOS list and put me on and ill leave, its more my fault for not mentioning something to a director. I sorry guys... 
My corp can not be help for mine and his irresponsible actions, Eve's Ghsts has always had a hard line against pirates, and declared themselves an anti-pirate corp. Whats wrong with you NVA??? have u know diplomatic skills???? click and click and there dead...
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Gunn Diesel
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Posted - 2003.11.06 06:20:00 -
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lol.... RP Rep?... OMFG! you can go hump her cows too you guys are the ones making such a big deal about a dammed video game ...for crying out loud guys! ...we go to venal when we are bored . same with when we leave. your size of force has done nothing to change when we do or dont . thats the bottom line . we are the ones who sit here and get you wound up .. so keep up the good work ....BTW Great role playing!!! "gimme an F'n break. haha BTW Jade if you want a real list of allies , lemme know Ill send it to you .. the one I saw is not correct.
" Dont hate the playa... Hate the game. "
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Lara Janoz
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Posted - 2003.11.06 09:53:00 -
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Narayan you realy are showing you age now acting like a 13 year old, and in case you not 13 thats even worse.
yes its only a game to us to but no need to flame becuase we have a differnt view of that same game as you.
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lol.... RP Rep?...
.... so keep up the good work ....BTW Great role playing!!! "gimme an F'n break. haha
Narayan, i wonder, did it just now get tru to you head that jade is a spokes person for the NVA?
well Nrayan i think you should follow the advice in you sig your self.
DONT HATE THE PLAYER, hate the game.
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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.06 15:14:00 -
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Quote:
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Enemy (Corps) War Status KOS - Engage freely
[10KAD] Crusaders 10000AD [BM-C] Biomass Cartel [CRICE] Crice Corporation [CRUIS] Mercenary Cruisers [FRIG] Mercenary Frigates [GHSTS] Eve's Ghsts [HOOD] Hooded Figures Inc [JOKER] Jokers Corp [MOO] MOO [NOVA] Terra Nova Corp [PAK] PAK [RAVEN] Ravens of Valhalla [SPVD] Space Invaders [TDG] Tundragon [TLBC] The Legitimate Businessmans Club [VALK] Valkyrie Enterprises [ZOMB] Zombie Inc
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*sigh* Coming home from my vacation from the labs and reading this news after the 'I'm leaving to try out pirating'-mail from WarMech makes me feel so comfy :). I know that I frequently 'research BPs to death' but surely hope this doesn't count against my corp.
Naw.. sarcasm aside. ;)
I think this reaction, despite the obvious security concerns, a bit harsh. I guess with a bit more restricted access, for begining members (meaning applying corps here), to your channels with sensitive informations sure would lessen the potential damage that could be done by fresh members of the NVA. Even with those measures you could never be totally sure of the loyalty of any of the corps that are members of your alliance. As with every corp taking in new members, an alliance takes risks because of the simple fact that you don't know the applicant from the first day on but get to know him over time. In this case judging a corp by the actions of one of his members, who felt the itch in his palms to try out pirating, would be the same as judging every new pilot to the vast reaches of EVE by the actions of one of those scammers that take out corp hangars and disappear to be never seen again - resulting in you never wanting to recruit any new members to one of your corps or even placing them on your KOS list.
In later as in the first case you normally judge the individual and pursue him. This way it is normally done.
As a last comment, I want to make clear, that this was my very personal opinion on that matter.
ATTENTION: Anyone of those Kicked from NVA and would like to join a corp that IS NOT A PIRATE corp, apply to Crice Corp. We back our words with action!! We have 95 offices throughout EVE, so just tell me where you are and we will get you signed up. Sorry we didn't get any offices in Venal when we were there. We will look again this weekend.
DOWN WITH THE MARXI's theories of NVA!!!!!
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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.06 15:18:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Rizmordan Hillgotlieb on 05/11/2003 20:50:01 Understood... thanks. I'll be in contact.
(Just finished putting the 2nd coat of wax on the old Dominix while at Lai Dai station in Torrinos)
LOL. That was a funny picture....
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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.06 15:21:00 -
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Quote: I agree with lara--calling Jade a hypocrite because of something on the NVA list of Allies & Enemies is like calling Ted Kennedy a Republican because the U.S. Congress is pursuing a generally Republican agenda.
Your attacking of Jade really is getting old. Jade is a PR Rep and a council member. She has always been a vocal leader, but NVA is a democracy.
I know you want the world to believe that NVA is Jade's baby, and that she rules by edict. Nothing could be further from the truth. Jade can generally handle herself in these little flame wars, but I want to set the record straight.
A gripe with NVA policies is a grips against the NVA, and *****ing to Jade about it accomplishes nothing.
SO who is in charge of the NVA?
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Lord Guerdo
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Posted - 2003.11.06 15:51:00 -
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DIE NVA DIE DIE!!!!
flameaway
Lord Guerdo
Biomass Cartel
I mean c'mon, just think about it. What would make more sense then the 3 most hated alliances teaming up to lay waste to the people they all hate anyways? CA is already allied with PA, and TPS lies between the two alliances. Natural allies to be sure. But it's not just that, all but PA (and even some of them) have adopted a "stfu and die, or come and fight us, we don't give a **** what you think or do" philosophy, as well as a PvP Kill everyone not friend kind of mentality. These are the people in eve that kill or convert, the ones dedicated to the death of others, because history, circumstance, and the rest of eve have driven then to do so (except TPS, who are just cool ass pirates ). |

Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2003.11.06 16:19:00 -
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Edited by: Cormyat Astara on 06/11/2003 16:22:58
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Your attacking of Jade really is getting old. Jade is a PR Rep and a council member. She has always been a vocal leader, but NVA is a democracy.
SO who is in charge of the NVA?
Evidently, the word "democracy" failed to conjure an accurate image for you.
How about "confederacy?" Each corp has reps on NVA council. The corps have as much autonomy as possible. Most of us prefer not to think about the NVA if we don't have to (unlike Biomass, who seem to have an irrational obsession with us and our spokeperson.) NVA is a mutual support mechanism. We do things as they are necessary. The CEO's and their appointed reps run the show.
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Lord Guerdo
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Posted - 2003.11.06 16:31:00 -
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the obsession is we enjoy killing you =)
Lord Guerdo
Biomass Cartel I mean c'mon, just think about it. What would make more sense then the 3 most hated alliances teaming up to lay waste to the people they all hate anyways? CA is already allied with PA, and TPS lies between the two alliances. Natural allies to be sure. But it's not just that, all but PA (and even some of them) have adopted a "stfu and die, or come and fight us, we don't give a **** what you think or do" philosophy, as well as a PvP Kill everyone not friend kind of mentality. These are the people in eve that kill or convert, the ones dedicated to the death of others, because history, circumstance, and the rest of eve have driven then to do so (except TPS, who are just cool ass pirates ). |

Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2003.11.06 16:55:00 -
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The NVA and mutual support .. ha ha ha
Opps there goes another Corporation kicked 
Mongo speaks !!
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sExI bEaSt
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Posted - 2003.11.06 17:24:00 -
[91]
Edited by: sExI bEaSt on 06/11/2003 17:25:50 *Clap* *Clap* *Clap*
I see alot of play acting on behalf of Jade, WarmechMJ and Eve's Ghsts. The posts are brilliant, I would believe it all too...but its not real. WarmechMJ is a NVA spy, I dont need to prove it to you all, because I know it for the truth..proving so would just endanger my own spy network. Good work War, I see you are now entertaining Bio-mice, when they find out that you have double crossed them, your days in comfort will be over.
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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.06 17:31:00 -
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Edited by: crice on 06/11/2003 17:32:33
Quote: Edited by: sExI bEaSt on 06/11/2003 17:25:50 *Clap* *Clap* *Clap*
I see alot of play acting on behalf of Jade, WarmechMJ and Eve's Ghsts. The posts are brilliant, I would believe it all too...but its not real. WarmechMJ is a NVA spy, I dont need to prove it to you all, because I know it for the truth..proving so would just endanger my own spy network. Good work War, I see you are now entertaining Bio-mice, when they find out that you have double crossed them, your days in comfort will be over.
I wouldn't Doubt it! I am going to Venal this weekend to see what all the fuss is about. What do they have up there that makes that area sooooo cool. I guess I will find out. I bet 50Mill in ISK they don't KOS me. Are there 10K bistot rocks up there or something?? ME LOVE MEGA!!!!
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Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2003.11.06 17:34:00 -
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Edited by: Cormyat Astara on 06/11/2003 17:36:23
Quote: The NVA and mutual support .. ha ha ha
Opps there goes another Corporation kicked 
So, how's Billy Bob? And Crusaders 10000 AD?
Oops! I guess Biomass are discovering that some of their "allies" don't like them! I guess even pirates can only handle you for so long before they figure out you have absolutley nothing but Biomass' interests at heart. Maybe they don't ilke the fact that Biomass expects them to do things like commit suicide in lagged-out jump-in traps for the sake of The Forsaken cause.
I don't blame them. I actually have respect for most pure pirates, but Biomass has backstabbed so many people, there is no way you'll be able to hang on to allies.
And Narayan...you say we take the game too seriously...well...maybe some of your allies like to RP it a little more thoroughly as well. I suppose you have the same lack of respect for them? And speaking of respect, why are you and your corpmates so desperate and pathetic in your quest to be feared and respected? Is it some sort of tiny phallus syndrome? (Waits for Biomass members to check their dictionaries.)
Ahhh...that's right...it's just a game...you are just bored...and you never read these forums...which is why you respond to everything written here.
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Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2003.11.06 17:48:00 -
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Edited by: Cormyat Astara on 06/11/2003 17:49:47 Edited by: Cormyat Astara on 06/11/2003 17:49:14
Quote: What do they have up there that makes that area sooooo cool.
Crice: It's called player-driven content. Obviously, you like it too, or you wouldn't have inserted yourself into this conflict.

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Jacob Molari
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Posted - 2003.11.06 19:49:00 -
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Cormyat,
It really doesn't sound like the NVA is a democracy. They are more like a federation that is governed by an oligarchy.
A rather inept one at that.

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Stepping Razor
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Posted - 2003.11.06 19:54:00 -
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*tries to figure out who is the pot, and who is the kettle*
Quote: Cormyat,
It really doesn't sound like the NVA is a democracy. They are more like a federation that is governed by an oligarchy.
A rather inept one at that.

Razor
Originally by: Bonaventure Phaidon CCP is the best at at least three things: 1. Really, really fun gameplay 2. Good forum presence 3. Inventing new and exciting ways to bring about in-game catacly
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.06 20:17:00 -
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Quote: Cormyat, It really doesn't sound like the NVA is a democracy. They are more like a federation that is governed by an oligarchy. A rather inept one at that.
Because a random selection of space-poltroons united in a piratical alliance that can't find the right jump-hole with both hands and a teamspeak connection is such an expert on representative government?
Biomice ... fantastic combatants and accomplished gate gankers all, just don't ask them for the directions to the next system over or you might miss the turning to the war.
;)
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Lara Janoz
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Posted - 2003.11.06 21:05:00 -
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Quote:
I wouldn't Doubt it! I am going to Venal this weekend to see what all the fuss is about. What do they have up there that makes that area sooooo cool. I guess I will find out. I bet 50Mill in ISK they don't KOS me. Are there 10K bistot rocks up there or something?? ME LOVE MEGA!!!!
Crise come and try i will be happy to take that 50mil of your hands.
Also crise, i think its a shame you are sending your corp on a selfdestruct course. Dont think you are, know you are. |

Stepping Razor
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Posted - 2003.11.06 21:23:00 -
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Quote:
Crise come and try i will be happy to take that 50mil of your hands.
Or, come in a Raven and we'll take 90-some-odd mil off your hands 
Sorry, I had a moment of sillyness there. Forgot you Crice guys only go into combat with 45 Dork Empire pilots to hide behind  Razor
Originally by: Bonaventure Phaidon CCP is the best at at least three things: 1. Really, really fun gameplay 2. Good forum presence 3. Inventing new and exciting ways to bring about in-game catacly
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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.06 21:29:00 -
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Quote:
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I wouldn't Doubt it! I am going to Venal this weekend to see what all the fuss is about. What do they have up there that makes that area sooooo cool. I guess I will find out. I bet 50Mill in ISK they don't KOS me. Are there 10K bistot rocks up there or something?? ME LOVE MEGA!!!!
Crise come and try i will be happy to take that 50mil of your hands.
Also crise, i think its a shame you are sending your corp on a selfdestruct course.
Just me KID... Just me. I will be the only one going... I am just curious what is up there? That is all....
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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.06 21:31:00 -
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Quote:
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Crise come and try i will be happy to take that 50mil of your hands.
Or, come in a Raven and we'll take 90-some-odd mil off your hands 
Sorry, I had a moment of sillyness there. Forgot you Crice guys only go into combat with 45 Dork Empire pilots to hide behind 
God you guys are lame. There should be nothing wrong with someone just wanting to come and explore. Your acting all tough??? Pathetic. Just want to explore maybe you guys have ark up there? No?
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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.06 21:45:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Cormyat, It really doesn't sound like the NVA is a democracy. They are more like a federation that is governed by an oligarchy. A rather inept one at that.
Because a random selection of space-poltroons united in a piratical alliance that can't find the right jump-hole with both hands and a teamspeak connection is such an expert on representative government?
Biomice ... fantastic combatants and accomplished gate gankers all, just don't ask them for the directions to the next system over or you might miss the turning to the war.
;)
Maybe Jade would let me come up there to look around. You guys just don't get it do you? I went to observe and I will again. Who wouldn't want to see a large scale battle??? My point only was that I will get past your gate camping pirates. You wanna blow up an innocent person that has done nothing to the NVA, go for it, just proves the point that your no better than your claims against Biomass.
Proud Supplier to all of EVE!!!! We don't don't care what race, creed, religion or profession. No I don't have Blood hair and blue eyes, sorry.... I guess I must die then.
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Lara Janoz
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Posted - 2003.11.06 21:53:00 -
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On the note of exploration in venal, that was posable befor you bio friends invaded and forced us to close it for sercurity resons, you can read the resons and the warnings in some other places on these forums.
It only reflects badly on your self as ceo of a good midsized corp that you are not aware of these things.
These post are not helping you case crise.
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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.06 22:06:00 -
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Quote: On the note of exploration in venal, that was posable befor you bio friends invaded and forced us to close it for sercurity resons, you can read the resons and the warnings in some other places on these forums.
It only reflects badly on your self as ceo of a good midsized corp that you are not aware of these things.
These post are not helping you case crise.
I am sory you still dont get it.
I read the warnings. Just thought I could have a pass to go up there, that is all. If not I guess I will be flying home in Pod Style... 
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LadyJessica
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Posted - 2003.11.06 22:37:00 -
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Hypothetically, someone got way back in Venal and they were not supposed to be up there. Now they just want out. Can they get out without incident or do they have to run past a blockade like they did when they came in. You guys were so rude... totally aggressive to an unknowing innocent party. We could have been friends... all I wanted to do was talk. At least I met a few decent people North of Venal.
Lady J
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Hanns
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Posted - 2003.11.06 23:06:00 -
[106]
to much writing..... eyes hurt.... brain... not ...functioning.... bleh
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Orlando Orleans
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Posted - 2003.11.07 00:42:00 -
[107]
a bit of a qoute from a log in this thread:
Quote:
[ 2003.11.04 16:25:49 ] WarMechJH > how could that knew i became pirate [ 2003.11.04 16:26:13 ] Jade Constantine > I would know if one of my guys was flaky
What was the name of the Jericho member I saw the other day? Viol... Violat... something along those lines.
PS. I didn¦t read past this point so if the point¦s already come up, sorry.
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2003.11.07 01:25:00 -
[108]
MY KOS LIST
Minus The Dark Empire
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.07 04:00:00 -
[109]
Violation was never one of my guys mr Zombie. You'll have to ask him for the fully story.
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Gunn Diesel
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Posted - 2003.11.07 06:33:00 -
[110]
blah blah blah !  
" Dont hate the playa... Hate the game. "
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Pandaras
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Posted - 2003.11.07 10:48:00 -
[111]
Well this is quite interesting,I have been away at work and RL for a bit to come back and find that me and my corp mates are put on a KOS list.I come back to find that my corp ceo is in the middle of everything over a business that we are in.We mine,build and supply ships to all of Eve.I find it weak that a great "super power" such as NVA,has to put a bunch of miners on a KOS list.WOW I am so impressed that you will kill miners.Now who is a pirate hunting after mainly defensless workers.I can see why NVA is such great people and everyone loves them anyhow,But then I quess if you cant deal with people who can give you a run for your isk then come **ck with us.I am sure the rest of Eve will see this and chuckle as I do over this.LoL all in all as a miner if I have to help defend our corp over stupid sh**,then I will have my good ole' Miner 2's ready to eat away at yer ship the best I can. p.s. I quess next you take your extreme power and go hunt down noobs,A true show of power right Jade .
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Reptar
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Posted - 2003.11.07 11:07:00 -
[112]
DARN YOU NVA!!! you never do anything in our system... If Eve's Ghsts even considers rejoing or talking to you im leaving. your a bunch of paranoid "i love myselfers". Put me in your kos list cause im soo agrivatied by your short sighted attituded next time i recognise one of u in > 0.5 im going to fire some of my expesive missiles at you. Im not going to win the fight but will feel alot better after it..  and yes im drunk and did use a spellchecker..    
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Lord Guerdo
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Posted - 2003.11.07 11:25:00 -
[113]
LOL REPTAR KICKA$$!!!
Lord Guerdo
Biomass Cartel I mean c'mon, just think about it. What would make more sense then the 3 most hated alliances teaming up to lay waste to the people they all hate anyways? CA is already allied with PA, and TPS lies between the two alliances. Natural allies to be sure. But it's not just that, all but PA (and even some of them) have adopted a "stfu and die, or come and fight us, we don't give a **** what you think or do" philosophy, as well as a PvP Kill everyone not friend kind of mentality. These are the people in eve that kill or convert, the ones dedicated to the death of others, because history, circumstance, and the rest of eve have driven then to do so (except TPS, who are just cool ass pirates ). |

Reptar
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Posted - 2003.11.07 14:44:00 -
[114]
ggggrrrrr my rage builds by the minuite. Does anybody know of an Anti New Venal Alliance, cause sign me up.... lets get rid of these child slaves in Battleships. BACK TO YOUR CHAINS darnit.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.11.07 15:12:00 -
[115]
So, is there an NVA spy list? I'd like to see if I can get on it*. 
*if I'm not already.  .
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slayr
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Posted - 2003.11.07 16:22:00 -
[116]
Scene: bodies lying everywhere, killers bodies with machine guns lying where cops shot them down. cop: "who are you?" To the only living sole left after the murderous spree and subsequent shootout. Bystander:"Oh,.. nobody really." cop:"why didn't they shoot you?" Bystander:"Uhmm.. I dunno..cuz they liked me?" Cop:"what do you do?" Bystander:"Er.. sell ammo." Cop cuffs bystander who protests loudly "I didn't do ANYTHING wrong!" Cop looks at ID .. Crice..
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.07 16:27:00 -
[117]
Quote: ggggrrrrr my rage builds by the minuite. Does anybody know of an Anti New Venal Alliance, cause sign me up....
Errrr ... have you tried the Biomice and Space muppets m'dear?
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Reptar
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Posted - 2003.11.07 17:56:00 -
[118]
no they are "invite only" im not going to get an invite me dear, eve's ghsts was ONCE CLOSE TO NVA
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Reptar
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Posted - 2003.11.07 18:36:00 -
[119]
well u just pod killed me in a shuttle, fairplay ill get u next nva darn u..
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Zarthan
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Posted - 2003.11.07 19:00:00 -
[120]
Edited by: Zarthan on 07/11/2003 19:01:38 PAK, Crice are both biomass allies considered part of the massively disfucntional dark empire or forsaken depending on whom you talk to. If either say otherwise their blowing smoke up your skirt. 10k ad left that alliance due to it's lack of maturity as well did i. Wether biomass knows it or not the alliance will fail due to massive disorganization and misstrust. If you wish to disagree with me feel free but use something better then blah blah as your response. I know it may be hard for some of you biomass guys to think but i know you can.
On a side note believe it or not some of the biomass guys are good people and not dumb as a box of rocks either. To them i say take control of your corp and kick the kiddies out they only make you look bad.
_______________________________________________________ Get custom sigs and graphics done here Unforgivn Website
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Gunn Diesel
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Posted - 2003.11.07 19:11:00 -
[121]
lol...10k left or got booted? lol..tell truth you lil fella.
" Dont hate the playa... Hate the game. "
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Gunn Diesel
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Posted - 2003.11.07 19:14:00 -
[122]
BTW Zarthan talk to Jag Terran ...he was offered better ways to communicate several times...he did not accept ....and how is there disstrust or cofusion? all of the other allies use voice com. and all of them are working very well together...your corp was the only one who didnt want to get off your asses.. so infact you are the ones falling apart .
" Dont hate the playa... Hate the game. "
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Reptar
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Posted - 2003.11.07 19:22:00 -
[123]
well starting new anti-nva corp and was scouting for office, no office space in torrinos went through gate in non valuable speedy ship and BAHM!!! oh and if anybody wants to they can help me fund a new anti-nva pirate corp, help the little guy 
DOWN WITH NVA!!!
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Reptar
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Posted - 2003.11.07 19:23:00 -
[124]
FUND ME, FUND ME :D
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Lord ofRedemption
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Posted - 2003.11.07 19:31:00 -
[125]
Quote: FUND ME, FUND ME :D
fund you....hmmmm i was thinking KILL you,
see ya in venal. _____________
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Reptar
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Posted - 2003.11.07 19:49:00 -
[126]
now whos being like a pirate 
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Smokist
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Posted - 2003.11.07 19:53:00 -
[127]
Quote: now whos being like a pirate 
Darn, this is like the one time I miss Mongo Peck and his "Yap yap yap" commentaries.
If you're going to bring it junior, bring it. You know the way up here.
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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.07 20:04:00 -
[128]
Quote:
well starting new anti-nva corp and was scouting for office, no office space in torrinos went through gate in non valuable speedy ship and BAHM!!! oh and if anybody wants to they can help me fund a new anti-nva pirate corp, help the little guy 
DOWN WITH NVA!!!
You can apply to Crice Corp, but we are just a bunch of Ore loving hippies.
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Zarthan
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Posted - 2003.11.07 21:08:00 -
[129]
as far as 10k goes 10k left. That was decided upon weeks ago you just didnt seem to figure that out. As far as communication goes how is their communication when the allies dont talk to eachother about who is or isnt in the alliance. As far as voice chat goes that was a biomess goof. I do remeber you guys being rather defensive about letting people even know what the chat was because the evil spies would get you. So if you dont give out the chat you can't expect people to use it and then blame them for not being in it when it's your own corps fault for not providing adequate information. Also as an fyi our group joined 10k ad but acted seperately from; so what jag wanted to do with you guys was jag's buisness and none of my concern. As far as trust goes that's laughable aside from xphoc who will show undying loyalty due to his lack of strenght i doubt very much the other corporations would 100% trust you guys especially when entering a jip.
As i've said before their are some good people in biomass you not being one of them ND. No you'd be one of those people who undermine the ability of that corporation to acutally organize to a point of actually being something more then a nusance. With your childish answers prods and exploits (not the in game kind) you consistantly proove your overall lack of leadership and maturity. Not that biomass needs to be anything more then a goof off corp. However, i do know there is at least a few in their who would aspire to make it more. _______________________________________________________ Get custom sigs and graphics done here Unforgivn Website
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2003.11.08 00:42:00 -
[130]
Basically what this thread needs is some mellow music....
One pill makes you larger And one pill makes you small And the ones that mother gives you Don't do anything at all Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall
And if you go chasing rabbits And you know you're going to fall Tell 'em a hookah smoking caterpillar Has given you the call Call Alice When she was just small
When men on the chessboard Get up and tell you where to go And you've just had some kind of mushroom And your mind is moving low Go ask Alice I think she'll know
When logic and proportion Have fallen sloppy dead And the White Knight is talking backwards And the Red Queen's "off with her head!" Remember what the dormouse said: "Feed your head Feed your head Feed your head"
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teknetos
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Posted - 2003.11.08 00:43:00 -
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Edited by: teknetos on 08/11/2003 00:46:10 yep...BioMass have had dealings with both PAK and CRICE corp.....we buy stuff off them for reasonable prices and in return we dont shoot them. They are not 'allies' in the way you imply and do not provide any strategic benefit to our alliance and their relationship with BioMass will not stretch to them threatening the NVA. So? does this justify the KOS policy being applied to these two peaceful corps? hell no! but hey, stupidity never stopped the NVA before so go knock yourselves out, BioMass may or may not kick you stupid for any actions against Crice and Pak corp....M'dear. What can we say? Scorpions for 50 million and rare mods for competitive prices, BioMass will defend THAT very aggressively 
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Reptar
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Posted - 2003.11.08 01:10:00 -
[132]
i think were going off topic to genral nva hating 
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.08 03:53:00 -
[133]
Well you have plenty of options for joining an NVA hating corp m'dear; I would join Captain Mascara with your alt and Biomice with your main if I was you.
But seriously, its been a long thread and we have had a lot of analysis both sound and silly, but the fact remains, NVA policy is made and the game is afoot. Let the chips fall where they may.
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Reptar
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Posted - 2003.11.08 03:59:00 -
[134]
ggrrrrr
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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.08 16:30:00 -
[135]
It is really jsut sad that Bladrunners would attack a guy in a bestower! Your Attacking Crice Corp because we sell ships??? That is jsut sad and it is really to bad that my newbies suffer and don't understand why? or What is going on.... Think about it. Why ruin the game for people who do nothing to you...
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Reptar
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Posted - 2003.11.08 16:54:00 -
[136]
well said, kill the cancer not the person.
Is the NPA still around if so pirates should unite against all nva, corps will leave quickly if they find they are more at risk with nva...
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Beseb
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Posted - 2003.11.08 18:08:00 -
[137]
Crice, you don't play stupid well.
I've personally witnessed you *actively* working with Biomass in a "Sting" operation.
BTW, seeing as you are the self proclaimed supplier of goods to Biomass, give a holler to omnieye, he'll be needing a new Apoc and assorted mods. I would have sold his mods back to him, but they were destroyed in the blast...
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Gunn Diesel
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Posted - 2003.11.09 03:23:00 -
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Edited by: Narayan Diesel on 09/11/2003 03:26:07 Crice.....they cant hurt us , so in their rage of fury they feel the need to sink to our level in one way or another. they are just as much a pirate as the rest of us ...the only difference is they hide and kill in 0.0 where the sec means nothing ....   pathetic..... and then Jade has nerve to start calling names like space muppet and biomice? lol.... pathetic display of childlike jealousy."NVA I think your better off playing with barbies or chewing bubble gum"... so then in their attempt to look powerful in the eyes of the forum readers they flame and lie. that indeed makes them feel elite. boohoo squish squish* Jade go hump your cows 
" Dont hate the playa... Hate the game. "
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.09 05:57:00 -
[139]
Is it just me? Or do the number of animated smily emotes in a post have a direct correlation to the intellect of the person posting by inverse proportion.
I wonder, because Naryan (mr Windbag) rarely says anything at all. But fills the gaps between his vapour with ludicrous smilies for some reason ...
And of course Captain Mascara is a profligate lunatic with them ...
Ah well, just musing
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Reptar
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Posted - 2003.11.09 10:18:00 -
[140]
lol jade, last nite i got through a blocakde of 8 of your ships, the nite b4 through 6 all in bs. Intellect??? NVA???? they have to learn to fight first :P
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.09 12:49:00 -
[141]
offered without comment ...
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Channelname: Reptar conversation Listener: Jade Constantine Session started: 2003.11.08 20:28:45
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[ 2003.11.08 20:28:54 ] Reptar > hey jade? [ 2003.11.08 20:29:00 ] Reptar > i got away [ 2003.11.08 20:29:19 ] Reptar > just wondering was that on purpose? [ 2003.11.08 20:30:17 ] Jade Constantine > not much skill in killing a frigate [ 2003.11.08 20:30:42 ] Reptar > but u didnt get me [ 2003.11.08 20:30:51 ] Reptar > thats the second blockade i got through [ 2003.11.08 20:30:59 ] Jade Constantine > doesn't really matter though does it [ 2003.11.08 20:31:21 ] Reptar > u should mange your ppl better u wanna know how i knew it was clear [ 2003.11.08 20:31:52 ] Jade Constantine > not my job [ 2003.11.08 20:31:53 ] Reptar > i was at almost max range for directional scanners, just kept scanning [ 2003.11.08 20:31:58 ] Reptar > then went [ 2003.11.08 20:31:59 ] Jade Constantine > i don't run combat ops [ 2003.11.08 20:32:04 ] Reptar > it was fun i enjoyed it [ 2003.11.08 20:32:07 ] Reptar > thanx alot [ 2003.11.08 20:32:17 ] Jade Constantine > you'll have to gloat at the fleet commander [ 2003.11.08 20:32:17 ] Reptar > and pls put bounty on me :D [ 2003.11.08 20:32:30 ] Reptar > whos that? [ 2003.11.08 20:33:19 ] Jade Constantine > nobody today that was just a fun rally [ 2003.11.08 20:33:26 ] Jade Constantine > we wanted to kill warmech [ 2003.11.08 20:33:37 ] Jade Constantine > didn't really care about you i am afriad ;) [ 2003.11.08 20:33:46 ] Reptar > lol yeah i know [ 2003.11.08 20:33:51 ] Reptar > can u put me higher on you kill list pls? [ 2003.11.08 20:33:56 ] Reptar > i enjoy it alto [ 2003.11.08 20:34:24 ] Jade Constantine > you aren't on our kill at all i think [ 2003.11.08 20:34:38 ] Reptar > yeah i get chased all the time [ 2003.11.08 20:34:50 ] Reptar > but i think thats cause of my corp [ 2003.11.08 20:34:53 ] Jade Constantine > yeah well [ 2003.11.08 20:34:58 ] Reptar > with warmech in [ 2003.11.08 20:35:16 ] Reptar > can we go on your kos list? and take eves ghsts off? [ 2003.11.08 20:35:23 ] Jade Constantine > nope [ 2003.11.08 20:35:30 ] Reptar > pllsssss [ 2003.11.08 20:35:43 ] Reptar > ah i gotta earn it then ok deal [ 2003.11.08 20:36:02 ] Jade Constantine > go and attack someone in ec [ 2003.11.08 20:36:03 ] Reptar > i will deliver 5 nva corpses for 1 place on kos list? [ 2003.11.08 20:36:29 ] Jade Constantine > are you lonely?
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Reptar
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Posted - 2003.11.09 17:24:00 -
[142]
Edited by: Reptar on 09/11/2003 17:29:44 Edited by: Reptar on 09/11/2003 17:27:21 lol, no jade i just love you soo much, and pretty suprised i managed to get through 8 of you, i like to talk im just a loud mouth but wtf is the point in showing that bit of the conv?? yeah sure i blab to much but, this is just meaningless b****ing 
its good to get to know your enemy...
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WarMechJH
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Posted - 2003.11.09 17:44:00 -
[143]
well Jade.... If you want me dead why dont you just put a bounty on me so bounty hunters will also try to kill me. 
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.09 19:16:00 -
[144]
And so you can split the bounty with your biobuddies? I don't think so. And anyway, the NVA prefers the fun and games of hunting you ourselves.
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Reptar
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Posted - 2003.11.09 19:22:00 -
[145]
  lol jade fun and games we enjoy it to  
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WarMechJH
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Posted - 2003.11.09 20:11:00 -
[146]
well... Happy hunting! you will never get me. I will kill NVA 1 by 1 
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Lord ofRedemption
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Posted - 2003.11.09 21:01:00 -
[147]
Quote: well... Happy hunting! you will never get me. I will kill NVA 1 by 1 
DOWN WITH NVA!
Never get you,now please.Remember in ec when you were crying for help in local when i was pwning your ship,oh and i made you pay 6mll for you attaking a cargo ship.Sure maybe jade wont get you as she deals with other things,be aware,ill get you.
Long live NVA
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2003.11.09 21:29:00 -
[148]

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Reptar
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Posted - 2003.11.09 21:34:00 -
[149]
times haved changed pal 
thing in the next weeks / months are going to get alot harder for you. I can hardly wait
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Lord ofRedemption
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Posted - 2003.11.09 21:47:00 -
[150]
Quote: times haved changed pal 
thing in the next weeks / months are going to get alot harder for you. I can hardly wait
I hope it will get harder,and trust me i cnt wait either,Just bring it,im here waitin,hell your such i noob i will make a few trips looking for you. _____________
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Reptar
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Posted - 2003.11.09 22:18:00 -
[151]
rgr that
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2003.11.11 01:20:00 -
[152]
bring it you child ---
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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.14 19:38:00 -
[153]
Edited by: crice on 14/11/2003 21:03:35 Deleted
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.14 20:19:00 -
[154]
Edited by: Jade Constantine on 14/11/2003 20:22:34
I am afraid Crice that this evening I have received new intel which forces me to classify you as what is known in the trade as "a lying ass dog".
Members of your own corp have explained in-depth your role as a Biomass shadow-corp counciller, fence, collaborator and indeed quisling of the dork alliance.
Human intel from Biomass occupied systems confirms the allegations made against you.
It therefore appears you have made your choice.
Stand with Biomass and fall with them.
Love and peace
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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.14 20:32:00 -
[155]
Edited by: crice on 14/11/2003 21:02:50 Deleted
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Reptar
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Posted - 2003.11.14 20:34:00 -
[156]
Edited by: Reptar on 14/11/2003 20:37:30 yeah suspose u won that , the constant hounding endless blockades so we left the region. But we will be back one day (hopefully )
hats off to you jade and co that was some good orginisation...
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Leviathanie
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Posted - 2003.11.14 21:03:00 -
[157]
Okay, as former CO-CEO of Crice Corp I feel that I should respond to this post and clarify some issues.
1. Yes i mined base ore for the construction of Scorpion battleships, which I knew were being sold to pirates. I however, only knew that we had a NAP with them in that since we built ships we were not to be attacked.
2. I did NOT know that Crice was a member of the Forsaken Alliance Council. As soon as i found this out, i promtly LEFT crice corp of my own free will and took with me all those members who did not wish to be part of that alliance (contrary to Crice's earlier post). The fact that Crice says he doesn't know who is in the alliance, may be true as from the time i spent mining for base ore, they sounded VERY disorganized (I was allowed to monitor the semi-public alliance channel so as to "announce" my comings and goings).
3. None of the members who left with me are pirates, none of them have done any PVP, with the exception of myself in the SAD War. They are mostly the newbie players who were in Crice Corp and had no idea what was going on, but did not want to be KOS for something they didn't do. (Ironically we are now KOS for the forsaken empire )
4. I don't see why i need to "hide" from anything, I haven't done anything wrong and neither has my new corp. I am sorry to hear you think CCP is dying...personally i think it will survive.
5. Crice you have made the choice to back the Forsaken Alliance, I chose to leave as soon as I found out where you intended on leading the corp. I was fine with building and selling ships as that is just manufacturing, BUT YOU crossed the line when you started to aid the alliance in attacks and military operations. Furthermore you did so WITHOUT the consent of the CO-CEO or many of the directors. Also, the FDZ team (under your command) was responsible for attacking innocent people in 0.0 space. My base ore team did NOT know of these atrocities until much later, but when I learned of them I decided enough was enough and that is why i left.
I hope that this helps you, the readers of this forum, to see that my corp and myself, while having built ships for the alliance (A deal that was struck up by Crice, and was blindly followed by me [A mistake I will not make again]) do not deserve this obviously flamming tactic by a now openly known pirate. We left when we found out his intentions. If people can rip off a corp, i would argue a CEO can lead a corp down the wrong path and it is the responsibility of those in power to stop him as I have tried to do.
Sincerely,
Levia CEO The Delirious Conspiracy
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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.14 21:18:00 -
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Quote: Okay, as former CO-CEO of Crice Corp I feel that I should respond to this post and clarify some issues.
1. Yes i mined base ore for the construction of Scorpion battleships, which I knew were being sold to pirates. I however, only knew that we had a NAP with them in that since we built ships we were not to be attacked.
2. I did NOT know that Crice was a member of the Forsaken Alliance Council. As soon as i found this out, i promtly LEFT crice corp of my own free will and took with me all those members who did not wish to be part of that alliance (contrary to Crice's earlier post). The fact that Crice says he doesn't know who is in the alliance, may be true as from the time i spent mining for base ore, they sounded VERY disorganized (I was allowed to monitor the semi-public alliance channel so as to "announce" my comings and goings).
3. None of the members who left with me are pirates, none of them have done any PVP, with the exception of myself in the SAD War. They are mostly the newbie players who were in Crice Corp and had no idea what was going on, but did not want to be KOS for something they didn't do. (Ironically we are now KOS for the forsaken empire )
4. I don't see why i need to "hide" from anything, I haven't done anything wrong and neither has my new corp. I am sorry to hear you think CCP is dying...personally i think it will survive.
5. Crice you have made the choice to back the Forsaken Alliance, I chose to leave as soon as I found out where you intended on leading the corp. I was fine with building and selling ships as that is just manufacturing, BUT YOU crossed the line when you started to aid the alliance in attacks and military operations. Furthermore you did so WITHOUT the consent of the CO-CEO or many of the directors. Also, the FDZ team (under your command) was responsible for attacking innocent people in 0.0 space. My base ore team did NOT know of these atrocities until much later, but when I learned of them I decided enough was enough and that is why i left.
I hope that this helps you, the readers of this forum, to see that my corp and myself, while having built ships for the alliance (A deal that was struck up by Crice, and was blindly followed by me [A mistake I will not make again]) do not deserve this obviously flamming tactic by a now openly known pirate. We left when we found out his intentions. If people can rip off a corp, i would argue a CEO can lead a corp down the wrong path and it is the responsibility of those in power to stop him as I have tried to do.
Sincerely,
Levia CEO The Delirious Conspiracy
Yep. Your right. You knew everything about what was going on. We sold Scorpions to everyone and I just don't care who they go to... Why would I? But no matter. I still love ya. I love Jade to. I love everyone! LOL I know what NVA is planning this weekend. We all have friends. You did get your pockets lined with ISK and Mega from the Dark Empire.
I am not scared. God made clones! I liked everyone in the corp, You and I gave to everyone!
Peace Love! LOL BTW: you know I have never podded a peep in this game except that one using a mining macro in Sharza... I want people to stay in this game. PvP all the way!
Later,
Crice
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Artika
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Posted - 2003.11.14 21:29:00 -
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hahahaahahaha ahhhh levi the you lying carebear hahaha you knew and loved it cause you were making the most out of anybody....hmmmmmm? you were the 1 mining all the minerals except zyd and mega cause you wanted to keep low hahahaha then you made over half hahaha of the isk hahaaha now you play "ooooooooo i left as soon as i found out" bull hahah you left cause you didn't want to mine out of 0.0 space and you went to sharza to mine the base minerals! for the same allaince hahah but we didn't want to do all the work and you make most of the money hahaha so you left....you wanted to make an another corp so you could still sell your base minerals or build the ships for the allaince ahahahaha and so selling to this allaince has made you rich and you know it so stop trying to look like a good guy ok? hahaha oh oh oh poor poor levi is on a KOS list hhaahaha stop whining you made money even when you found out you were you still had no problems selling ships to the allaince hahahaha    Artika
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Artika
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Posted - 2003.11.14 21:38:00 -
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Quote: Okay, as former CO-CEO of Crice Corp I feel that I should respond to this post and clarify some issues.
1. Yes i mined base ore for the construction of Scorpion battleships, which I knew were being sold to pirates. I however, only knew that we had a NAP with them in that since we built ships we were not to be attacked.
2. I did NOT know that Crice was a member of the Forsaken Alliance Council. As soon as i found this out, i promtly LEFT crice corp of my own free will and took with me all those members who did not wish to be part of that alliance (contrary to Crice's earlier post). The fact that Crice says he doesn't know who is in the alliance, may be true as from the time i spent mining for base ore, they sounded VERY disorganized (I was allowed to monitor the semi-public alliance channel so as to "announce" my comings and goings).
3. None of the members who left with me are pirates, none of them have done any PVP, with the exception of myself in the SAD War. They are mostly the newbie players who were in Crice Corp and had no idea what was going on, but did not want to be KOS for something they didn't do. (Ironically we are now KOS for the forsaken empire )
4. I don't see why i need to "hide" from anything, I haven't done anything wrong and neither has my new corp. I am sorry to hear you think CCP is dying...personally i think it will survive.
5. Crice you have made the choice to back the Forsaken Alliance, I chose to leave as soon as I found out where you intended on leading the corp. I was fine with building and selling ships as that is just manufacturing, BUT YOU crossed the line when you started to aid the alliance in attacks and military operations. Furthermore you did so WITHOUT the consent of the CO-CEO or many of the directors. Also, the FDZ team (under your command) was responsible for attacking innocent people in 0.0 space. My base ore team did NOT know of these atrocities until much later, but when I learned of them I decided enough was enough and that is why i left.
I hope that this helps you, the readers of this forum, to see that my corp and myself, while having built ships for the alliance (A deal that was struck up by Crice, and was blindly followed by me [A mistake I will not make again]) do not deserve this obviously flamming tactic by a now openly known pirate. We left when we found out his intentions. If people can rip off a corp, i would argue a CEO can lead a corp down the wrong path and it is the responsibility of those in power to stop him as I have tried to do.
Sincerely,
Levia CEO The Delirious Conspiracy
hahahaahaha you too funny levi you really are plaese as long as you making ISK you didn't care it's when the disrupted you making of isk that you were "oooo this is bad bad" hahahaha you didn't mind when bio was running your support for you ...you didn't mind when bio was killing NVA for you ...you didn't mind when you told bio intel against the NVA hahah so stop trying to play side....oh nevermind we figured it out hahahaha now everybody else does hahaha     Artika
"No matter how good she looks, some guy is sick and tired of putting up with her crap" |

Rohann
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Posted - 2003.11.14 22:17:00 -
[161]
Holy Sh1t Crice!!! WTF?!?!? I just joined you to get out of Biomass, you didnt tell me we were at war. OMG FFS What am I gonna do?
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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.14 22:27:00 -
[162]
Quote: Holy Sh1t Crice!!! WTF?!?!? I just joined you to get out of Biomass, you didnt tell me we were at war. OMG FFS What am I gonna do?
We aren't at war with anyone directly. Although the NVA will continue to target our corp. As you know many members left. Most because the sh-t is going to hit the fan. There is not one person in our corp that didn't know what was happening. Everyone in our corp profited from the NAP we had with Biomass.
As you can see Leviathanie is scared and that is fine. He is not telling the truth which I am sure Jade is aware of. Will NVA target his new corp? Not sure. The plan was he would create a new corp and continue to mine the base for the Battleships, therefore keeping that new corp clean from retribution from NVA members. Life is hard. Choose your course wisely bcause you can't go back from the direction you have already taken.
Crice
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Jehutty
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Posted - 2003.11.14 22:32:00 -
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I am sorry to have to sit here at work and reply to such a lame ass thread as to what Levi has put on here.I am rarely on the forum but I have decided to sit here and defend a few allogations against us.One this is that Levi and his lil buddys that has left us was fully aware that Crice was selling stuff to Biomass ans was quite happy when Bio went to war with NVA not so long ago.I can recount numerous times when his morals werent being hurt when his pocket was getting larger and I fell tht it is lame that he decides to turn in deciet to clear his name.Shame on you Levi,I liked you and never thought you would spew like a lil girl who just got dumped!I hear Jade is looking for a girlfreind maybe you should go see her.And when I make it to my comp at my house and I pull up the convo's that are saved on my comp I will eve mail them to the NVA,you should go to church and repent for being a hypocrite Levi.To think that I was the one that said you would never go out and act like this....tisk tisk  No matter how big No matter how strong It always boils down to name calling !!! |

Rohann
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Posted - 2003.11.14 22:36:00 -
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Edited by: Rohann on 14/11/2003 22:38:17 Phuk em, my Velator has super armor. Let the NVA or anyone else come.
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Rohann
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Posted - 2003.11.14 22:39:00 -
[165]
Quote: I am sorry to have to sit here at work and reply to such a lame ass thread as to what Levi has put on here.
I am rarely on the forum but I have decided to sit here and defend a few allogations against us.One this is that Levi and his lil buddys that has left us was fully aware that Crice was selling stuff to Biomass ans was quite happy when Bio went to war with NVA not so long ago.
I can recount numerous times when his morals werent being hurt when his pocket was getting larger and I fell tht it is lame that he decides to turn in deciet to clear his name.
Shame on you Levi,I liked you and never thought you would spew like a lil girl who just got dumped!I hear Jade is looking for a girlfreind maybe you should go see her.And when I make it to my comp at my house and I pull up the convo's that are saved on my comp I will eve mail them to the NVA,you should go to church and repent for being a hypocrite Levi.To think that I was the one that said you would never go out and act like this....tisk tisk
wo0t!?!?!?!?
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Xanz
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Posted - 2003.11.14 22:47:00 -
[166]
Levi,
As you know I don't play anymore, but once crice told me what you did on the forums, I couldn't help myself. YOU knew what was going on and you should just be a man and admit it instead of Pulling the old "Levi Maneuver" and running away when something gets tough for you. I just lost all respect for you. You and Crice started that corp together and from what he told me, you made around 300Mill in ISK form those sales, while Crice was taking what he had and rolling it right back into the corp and the ships. Who is the bad guy? I know crice made an arrangement with M3G4, because he had to, too keep our peeps safe and get what we needed to grow the corp.
SO.. Good Ole Levi just runs and leaves crice after all he did for you. Didn't he even pay your phone bill so you could play more? Damn, that is just messed up what you said about him. I may come back just to KILL YOU! And what about Artika? Crice told me he helped you setup your Megathron to fight well.... You SIR are a FINK! I hope you think long and hard about the people that were in the corp and how they feel now and what YOU did to the corp.
You would still be in Umokka without Crice!!!
Bah.. You make me sick!!!
XANZ-ok back to SWG..... 
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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.14 22:55:00 -
[167]
LOL. Thanks Sean. Get your ass back in EVE! I almost forgot about the good ole "Levi Maneuver".
BTW-SWG sucks.... lol
Crice
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Rohann
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Posted - 2003.11.14 23:13:00 -
[168]
Ya you make me sick to Levi and I dont even know who the phuk you are. Now that is just lame.
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2003.11.14 23:19:00 -
[169]
Please start new thread.....
Posting for Numbnutz |

Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2003.11.14 23:45:00 -
[170]
Artika...we know about your "other" character, incidentally. Full-blown Biomass member. We also know that you are not the only Biomass alt who has taken up residency in Crice corp.
The curtain has been drawn back, and lo and behold! Crice = Biomass. ;D
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.15 01:48:00 -
[171]
This is like the space Jerry Springer show;)
Talk about right on the button! Our suspicions about Crice turn out to be pretty damneed accurate after all. And what a shower of weasels.
Seriously, Leviathanie is the only one who comes out of this with any credibility since she didn't go on record with a catalogue of utter fabrication and bare-faced lying in the public forum like Crice did.
Crice you really make me laugh, I think its possible you are the least upstanding member of the galactic community!
Having spoken to me privately for literally hours you maintain a continous barrage of lies;
It made no difference that I wasn't buying, you kept begging for NAP with the NVA ... kept scamming and kept wriggling.
And that sob story about Biomass podding one of your guys for a warning?
Rubbish too I assume?
Lol, its almost too funny.
And as for the pathetic sight of biomass alts coming on here to support each others arguments ... guys ... grow up and realise that agreeing with yourself in a different voice and piccy doesn't make your argument any more valid.
Alts suck.
And you suck to.
Love and peace
JF Public Forum |

Zagdul
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Posted - 2003.11.15 03:40:00 -
[172]
Edited by: Zagdul on 15/11/2003 03:49:12 I'm pretty disappointed that this thread has dissolved into personal attacks. Perhaps we should demonstrate proper debate skills and cut out the petty bull***t. I hate seeing adults attack eachother like 14 year old school girls. I'm not agreeing with either side, apparently both parties have done some flaky things, but lets act like adults about it. I know some of you are married and have kids...act like it.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.15 03:52:00 -
[173]
The only fact worth knowing here m'dear, is that 9 pages ago Crice launched this thread with the words;
Quote: "... Not sure how or why we were added to this list. I would be curious to here what the reasoning is ..."
And now we discover that he was playing the audience for suckers all a long.
The NVA stuck to our guns and our belief that he was a collaborator and pirate quisling.
This belief has been proven by the many revelations and statements since.
JF Public Forum |

Zagdul
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Posted - 2003.11.15 03:54:00 -
[174]
I was referring primarily to the situation between leviathanie and crice and friends.
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Cptn Zadius
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Posted - 2003.11.15 04:03:00 -
[175]
Crice, now this is funny. You reply to yourself? HAHAHAHA C'mon man, everyone knows your Alt dude.
Look, I'm not syaing we all didn't know that YOU were selling to Bio, but the corp members did not profit from these sales, you used it to line your own pockets with isk. Please don't bring down everyone that was with Crice corp as being in league with Biomass, trying to get both Bio and NVA against Levi, and the rest of us that felt it was better for us to leave.
The fact of the matter is this: Crice corp had a problem with management, there wasn't an authority figure, other than Levi, that we could speak with regarding corp issues. You say that Biomass isn't organized, look at your own corp and the way it's been run in the last month, you just now want to get the corp working as a team when we were asking for that for a long time.
I have no beef with anyone in Bio, or Crice corp. I just want to have fun in the game. If I get podded, well, then I get podded. It won't be the first time, and I'm sure not the last. 
Cptn Zadius
PS, Muppets of Mayhem is now recruiting :P
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.15 04:11:00 -
[176]
Quote: I was referring primarily to the situation between leviathanie and crice and friends.
Well frothing aside, its always a good idea to keep one eye on the purpose of the thread. And in this case it was discussing the Crice KOS status.
Hence, thats the core issue.
All else inbetween has mostly been opportunistic biorats sniping and fun and games from reptar and captain masochist.
Love and peace
JF Public Forum |

Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2003.11.15 04:13:00 -
[177]
Quote: Artika...we know about your "other" character, incidentally. You're a full-blown Biomass member. The other a full-blown Crice member. We also know that you are not the only Biomass alt who has taken up residency in Crice corp.
The curtain has been drawn back, and lo and behold! Crice = Biomass. ;D
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Regina
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Posted - 2003.11.17 00:31:00 -
[178]
will NVA now KOS also ships that pay pass trough ISK to pirates ? on that logic , if u manage survive or get arangment with pirates ,to safe your ship then NVA will hunt you cose u alive and then some how u suported pirates 
well something wrong there ! 
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Regina
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Posted - 2003.11.17 00:31:00 -
[179]
Edited by: Regina on 17/11/2003 00:43:10 Edited by: Regina on 17/11/2003 00:34:14 double post 
BTW i was KIcked From CRice corp , cose i WHINE that LEVI / CRICE combo kept the isk so stop JADE there about inocent biznes man 
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Lara Janoz
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Posted - 2003.11.17 10:31:00 -
[180]
Quote: will NVA now KOS also ships that pay pass trough ISK to pirates ? on that logic , if u manage survive or get arangment with pirates ,to safe your ship then NVA will hunt you cose u alive and then some how u suported pirates 
well something wrong there ! 
Regina i think you need to read the topic again.
There is a big diffence betwin being neutral and paying of pirates when you need and being part of a pirate alliance wich Crise corp is.
Dont think you are, know you are. |

Jacob Molari
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Posted - 2003.11.17 14:01:00 -
[181]
Now now jade,
You are far to articulate to keep resorting to childish name calling...
Biomice... Dork Empire... Biorats...
At least your opposition isn't so childish to return your sophomoric taunts (except for calling you a muppet).
So, I want you to remember this lymric from childhood, and repeat it often...
"Sticks and Stones may break my bones, but a cruise missle up my twat... that's got to hurt".
  
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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.17 16:35:00 -
[182]
I don't fear the NVA. I don't really care. It's a game. I am just sad that friendships were broken by all this BS. Jade I am not sure why your attacking me in the forums, I have never attacked you or your beliefs. I am not sure why our corp even got brought into your "war" with Biomass that stems back to the days of M3G4. No matter. I agree with Zag and CPTN, we shouldn't be attacking each other. Our management sucked, mostly my fault for focusing on different angles of the game. Levi was KEY to keeping Crice corp alive and kicking. We split the BS sales 50/50. You will be happy to know we are moving from FDZ into deeper regions to work under another alliance that can guarantee safety to our peeps. We won't be coming to Sharza, we won't pod or declare war on anyone that left Crice corp. It is too bad that all of the Corp use BP's are missing now, but at least those were all copies.... 
Good luck to all that left the corp, I hope that all with be successful.
Crice
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crice
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Posted - 2003.11.17 17:26:00 -
[183]
On a closing note. Lets close out this post. There is nothing more I need to say or hear.
I think there should be an implimented area of the game where alliances can enter an area and fight it out, whithout battles being won or lost based on the lag, or jump in points.
Maybe someday.... Thanks for everyone comments, either good or bad. Enjoy the game! I know I am!
Crice CEO of Crice Corporation
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Jehutty
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Posted - 2003.11.17 22:41:00 -
[184]
I realize Crice said this was over but on the ending note Capt, you should point at Levia on getting the money also.Not just Crice.I bet Levia has an accountwe all would envy.I wonder where he made it all from not just mining in a .7 or higher system. No matter how big No matter how strong It always boils down to name calling !!! |

crice
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Posted - 2003.12.09 23:12:00 -
[185]
Edited by: crice on 09/12/2003 23:15:20
Quote:
This is like the space Jerry Springer show;)
Talk about right on the button! Our suspicions about Crice turn out to be pretty damneed accurate after all. And what a shower of weasels.
Seriously, Leviathanie is the only one who comes out of this with any credibility since she didn't go on record with a catalogue of utter fabrication and bare-faced lying in the public forum like Crice did.
Crice you really make me laugh, I think its possible you are the least upstanding member of the galactic community!
Having spoken to me privately for literally hours you maintain a continous barrage of lies;
It made no difference that I wasn't buying, you kept begging for NAP with the NVA ... kept scamming and kept wriggling.
And that sob story about Biomass podding one of your guys for a warning?
Rubbish too I assume?
Lol, its almost too funny.
And as for the pathetic sight of biomass alts coming on here to support each others arguments ... guys ... grow up and realise that agreeing with yourself in a different voice and piccy doesn't make your argument any more valid.
Alts suck.
And you suck to.
Love and peace
LOL, I had to read this one again, because I miss you JADE!!!!
Yes Trolling! This brought me a good laugh that I needed today..
Crice
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Christopher Xen
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Posted - 2003.12.10 11:08:00 -
[186]
Well that clinches it, i just sped read 10 pages of banter only for the main idea to be summed up in the first post and last post.
::shrug::
Yup im truely bored.
but it was once again another page turner.
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J3tt
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Posted - 2003.12.10 11:09:00 -
[187]
can i be special on the KOS list.....just my name at the bottom
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Can your pod outrun a cruise missle? |

Frakri Hogsto
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Posted - 2003.12.10 11:21:00 -
[188]
Heh! huff arn't on there thank god. I'd be devasted if we were on KOS list with the NVA........
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Havocide
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Posted - 2003.12.10 11:31:00 -
[189]
NVA should have HUFF as KOS, those megatrons you all fly pop so easily 
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.12.10 17:08:00 -
[190]
Chris, one question ...
Who are Biomass again?
Love and peace
JF Public Forum |

Sokhar
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Posted - 2003.12.10 17:14:00 -
[191]
I love you jade, you're my homie!
True Power 
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crice
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Posted - 2003.12.10 17:51:00 -
[192]
Quote: NVA should have HUFF as KOS, those megatrons you all fly pop so easily 
Havocide,
When are you coming back to the Carebear side!
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crice
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Posted - 2003.12.10 17:52:00 -
[193]
Quote:
Chris, one question ...
Who are Biomass again?
Love and peace
Jade,
I need your attention Please... Just say HI, or "Crice your a muppet", something.. I need attention.
and Zincol I still lova ya man... 
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zincol
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Posted - 2003.12.10 18:16:00 -
[194]
"Zincol I still lova ya man... "
Love you too crice....LOL
w00t
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Silverado19
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Posted - 2003.12.10 18:27:00 -
[195]
I always like to read these forums. Jade, you always are present in almost every thread. Funny thing is...as much as you are a presence in the forums, I have NEVER have seen you in space. all you do is smack talk. Do you even have a ship?. Blah, blah, blah....put your ship where your mouth is.....or shut your hole up.
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LordXL
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Posted - 2003.12.10 18:39:00 -
[196]
Well i whent out to the moon and affter rain down the wood for that i need toast.. im in Trouble seem that my ship is going down...but for a maument see that life started to get ezer for me ...... Cruze misslie are heading my way im in a Pod.... tank god i have my Gum whit mei can chew this tasty gum... well what waz that furum all about agan?? oupps N11V11A11 S11U11C11K11S!
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Rohann
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Posted - 2003.12.10 18:45:00 -
[197]
Damn!?!?!?..........no love for Rohann?
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Sokhar
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Posted - 2003.12.10 19:31:00 -
[198]
Rohann you're my home boy too dawg, I luv j00 man
True Power 
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Rohann
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Posted - 2003.12.10 19:57:00 -
[199]
LOL
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helrazzer
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Posted - 2003.12.12 00:42:00 -
[200]
u r on it because u r a double croser so dont whine
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Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2003.12.12 04:37:00 -
[201]
God, please kill this thread.
Oberon-Inc FEAR MY EMOTICONS |

Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2003.12.12 05:36:00 -
[202]
Yeah, Halseth, no kidding. DIE THREAD, DIE!!
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Ywev
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Posted - 2003.12.12 19:16:00 -
[203]
[MOO] MOO
We will be seeing ya :)
Pod ya later.. Ywev
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Robotek Hybrid
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Posted - 2003.12.13 07:08:00 -
[204]
wow this thread is like a month old  --------------------------------------------
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Thorsten Kabrinski
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Posted - 2003.12.13 11:12:00 -
[205]
at least some parts of it are funny to read 
hm....need a new sig :p |

Stepping Razor
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Posted - 2003.12.14 00:36:00 -
[206]
Quote: at least some parts of it are funny to read 
Dunno man. Seems like a total waste to me ;P
Razor
Originally by: Bonaventure Phaidon CCP is the best at at least three things: 1. Really, really fun gameplay 2. Good forum presence 3. Inventing new and exciting ways to bring about in-game catacly
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Magnet41
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Posted - 2003.12.17 00:01:00 -
[207]
:P _
MadGaz > I just pwned an old lady
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Forum Bump
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Posted - 2004.01.03 00:32:00 -
[208]
This thread still has some life left in it...
Bumping your posts is my job!
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Xanz
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Posted - 2004.01.03 03:59:00 -
[209]
Wow, we got #3 on the list!!!
As if we weren't being shot at already. So close KIA. Thanks for posting a who's who though Jade. Mighty kind of you.
Xanz
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SYCO
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Posted - 2004.01.04 12:15:00 -
[210]
mmmm i miss the "VA"
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KIAPieman
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Posted - 2004.01.04 19:09:00 -
[211]
someone do this thread a favour and take it to the shed and shoot it. --------------------------------------------------------
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Darrin Tobruk
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Posted - 2004.01.05 02:51:00 -
[212]
It's the thread that just won't die. 
_______________________________________________ Eris Discordia: On the scale of funny and constructive it scores low, real low. |

Triniton
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Posted - 2004.01.05 02:53:00 -
[213]
erm... why is my corp on that list! This is an outrage!
ZOMBIE PRUNES! |

Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.05 13:24:00 -
[214]
First I was afraid I was petrified Kept thinking I could never live Without you by my side But I spent so many nights Thinking how you did me wrong I grew strong I learned how to carry on And so you're back From outer space I just walked in to find you here With that sad look upon your face I should have changed my stupid lock I should have made you leave your key If I had known for just one second You'd be back to bother me
Go on now go walk out the door Just turn around now 'cause you're not welcome anymore Weren't you the one who tried to hurt me with goodbye You think I'd crumble You think I'd lay down and die Oh no, not I I will survive As long as i know how to love I know I will stay alive I've got all my life to live I've got all my love to give And I'll survive I will survive
It took all the strength I had Not to fall apart Kept trying hard to mend The pieces of my broken heart And I spent oh so many nights Just feeling sorry for myself I used to cry Now I hold my head up high And you see me Somebody new I'm not that chained up little person Still in love with you And so you felt like dropping in And just expect me to be free Now I'm saving all my loving For someone who's loving me
JF Public Forum |

Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2004.01.05 18:05:00 -
[215]
I always knew that this thread would evolve and grow into the mid-seventies hit song "I will survive". It was inevitable. I fondly remember back when (insert dreamy harp music) it was a simple Crice.....WTF AM I DOING?!?!?! DIE, THREAD, DIE!!!
P.S. Cake does the best version of that song.
Oberon-Inc FEAR MY EMOTICONS |

Triniton
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Posted - 2004.01.05 19:25:00 -
[216]
I dont like cakes
ZOMBIE PRUNES! |

Saegilo Minkey
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Posted - 2004.01.06 11:48:00 -
[217]
Quote: P.S. Cake does the best version of that song.
Good Call Halseth 
Destroying the Universe one roid at a time |

crice
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Posted - 2004.01.06 15:57:00 -
[218]
PLEASE KILL!!!! *BLAM *BLAM *BLAM... DIE THREAD DIE!!!!!
Crice
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Shadowspawn
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Posted - 2004.01.07 05:59:00 -
[219]
Since everyone wants the thread dead, ill post short
Jade is counting Carbide Industries as her ally but M0o as her enemy thats funny...you want to know why Jade? Ask Shadowspawn in-game and he will reveal some interresting facts
This whole charade is indeed in serious need to be closed badly. I dont much mind what NVA descides upon but Jade trying to be the "good woman"...I think not if that is indeed the case she is sorely misinformed of her own allies 
Peace...actually no peace.
/Shadowspawn
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.07 06:10:00 -
[220]
Bloody hell, the intrigue never ends! Colour me breathless with panting anticipation at the fresh revelations you will doubtless hurl down like gleaming pearls before the swine of cynicial appraisal m'dear!
Come come, breath life into the thread dear shadowspawn, let your secrets be the channeled lightning of creation itself to tranfer the spark of vital fiery energy to raise this frankenstein's bride of a thread to hearty life once again!
The stage is yours sirrah, the players wait, the backdrops whirl ...
Play-on dear Sir, play on!
JF Public Forum |

Shadowspawn
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Posted - 2004.01.07 06:32:00 -
[221]
hehe
Jade I am not here to reveal unto thee high and mighty the meaning of life nor do I consider myself above or below I just know something about your allies that either you do not, or worse you do but dont care...my stake in this is curiosity...I want to know if Jade is indeed a gestappo or a peoples front and as such I offer information to accertain he beautiful truth for myself. Not for everyone else just for me hun 
If you wish to indulge me or not is your choice to make I just offer a trade..information to you and truth unveiled for me.
/shadowspawn
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.01.07 06:56:00 -
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Quote: Jade I am not here to reveal unto thee high and mighty the meaning of life nor do I consider myself above or below I just know something about your allies that either you do not, or worse you do but dont care...my stake in this is curiosity...I want to know if Jade is indeed a gestappo or a peoples front and as such I offer information to accertain he beautiful truth for myself. Not for everyone else just for me hun
Curiousity is a honest cause and I will be happy to indulge you m'dear. You ask a fair question despite my gentle ribbing and I will do my best to answer your curiousity with honesty of my own.
But as for fascist or popular resistance fighter, well the truth is never quite so easy.
We are playing a game of vast possibility with pieces beyond number, and stakes as high as any can imagine.
I think myself "free" and I bid others to break the bonds of societal conditioning and mimetic psycho-social programming to the cause of far diaspora.
But the truth is ... where there is one sleeping thought-virus in the engine of civilisation there may be others.
Who is to say that we are not all pawns to a wider game?
At the last, though I'll not claim the mantle of "goodness", I'll shout in the cause of revolution and progressive evolutionary forces.
Change over stagnation. Freedom of unknown futures over slavery in a gilded cage. Its not pretty, but like your bargain monsieur, it has the virtue of being honest.
Quote: If you wish to indulge me or not is your choice to make I just offer a trade..information to you and truth unveiled for me.
A fair trade. Bound and done.
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