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Posted - 2006.11.03 20:53:00 -
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 Originally by: keepiru
So it gained 75MW? Well, I guess that's allright. Now it just needs a whackalod more drone bay 
Is it just me, or is it the only T2 BC with only 17 fitting slots now?
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Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.11.03 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Kalhystia
Originally by: Nonoffensive
Originally by: keepiru
So it gained 75MW? Well, I guess that's allright. Now it just needs a whackalod more drone bay
Is it just me, or is it the only T2 BC with only 17 fitting slots now?
It is a droneship, so it is normal that it gets less slots.
Now, as Keepiru said, give me a proper dronebay and I will be perfectly happy 
Strange that they didn't increase the drone bay while they were fiddling with the slots, if that was their intent.
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Nonoffensive
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.11.08 18:33:00 -
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Edited by: Nonoffensive on 08/11/2006 18:33:27
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr
Myrmidon NEEDS heavies to even compete in damage with the other BC's and even then it still does less.
This cannot be stressed enough. I got a chance to test the Myrmidon on the test server finally and I wasn't very impressed. It only has one more turret effective DPS than the vexor which means you pretty much have to NOS to win because you can't break a decent tank. In the process I would routinely lose all my spare drones even while micro managing them. Thats about 10 mil in lost ISK per fight using hammerhead 2's. Do you want a ship that costs 10 mil to win a fight?
So blasters and 5x heavies do more dps? So what. T2 blaster ammo is getting nerfed and you have to be inside 3-5km to even fight in falloff. A graph posted earlier in this thread showed the Myr holding the highest dps only under 2km. That seems perfectly reasonable to me.
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Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.11.09 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: OneSock
OK rather than increase the dronebay, just give it an uber drone HP bonus. That way it would be a waste of time for an opponent to shoot at your drones.
This would not change the fact that the Myr is still doing about the dps of a Vexor. The Myr should at least be given a reasonable chance to outdamage its Cruiser varient. 1 extra turret worth of dps and +25m3 of drone space doesn't cut it for something that costs 10x the ISK. As it stands right now the Myr is not a drone boat, it is a Teir 2 BC with 17 slots and a drone bonus.
I would like options. Options are good and currently in Kali DPS doesn't win solo fights anyway.
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Nonoffensive
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.11.15 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: OneSock
OK so tweak up the drone damage bonus. It also has a better tank than the vexor, so it can tank more damage than the vexor and therefore deal out more damage cumulatively. Give it an uber drone hit point bonus so that it is not worth an opponent shooting them and maybe a bit of a damage bonus too to bring them near to but not quite 5x heavy DPS.
Surely that's worth your 40 mill ?
So basically give it heavy drones that move like mediums? Like some previous posters, I do not see anything unreasonable about allowing the Myr to field heavy drones. I also see nothing wrong with 6 turret slots. The DPS charts show it puts it in line with the other BCs only while running an extremely close range blaster setup.
At the same time, the bigger drone bay allows it to deploy a variety of drones, making it an actual drone ship, instead of just 2 sets of mediums. 10 hammerhead II's are going to run 20+ mil ISK themselves and there's your 60 mil for a dominix right there.
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Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.11.15 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Vaedon
If I understand correctly, popular opinion says the Myr needs more DPS than the Vexor, which people run 5 meds in, and less DPS than a Dominix, which runs 5 heavys.
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Additionally, increase the drone bay to 120m3 (thus avoiding the dreaded 5 heavys). 120m3 would allow for two flights of 6 mediums, or 3 flights 7 lights.
Or am I thinking too far outside of the box? lol
If you think the only DPS available to a Domi is 5 heavies, you are still thinking inside the box.
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Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.11.16 20:08:00 -
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My 2 cents for what its worth:
Undo these last changes, Revise the Shield Recharge on all BCs:
Currently Battlecruisers have about 3x the raw shield HP with the recharge rate of a cruiser. This is a perfect opportunity to put the recharge in line with the ships class and should go a long way towards addressing the Drake's huge tank.
Don't nerf, boost:
Bring up the Myr and Harbringer as necessary to compete with the other BCs. If everything is still over the top, address balance from this point. I am still waiting for the Myr to recieve the bonus it gets from losing a fitting slot 
I would hope that everyone could agree on these issues.
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Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.11.17 18:29:00 -
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How many times do people have to say it before it sinks in?
The Dominix has MORE than 5 heavies as offense. If the Myrmidon could use Heavy NOS I might be able to see the argument, but it CAN'T. If the Myrmidon could fit Large Hybrids I might be able to see the argument but it CAN'T. So what exactly about 5 Heavies is a crime? The Ishtar can use heavies, the Eos can use Heavies.
Reducing the bonus to light and medium drones would be another NERF on top of the already reduced 17 fitting slots.
And may I remind everyone, yes the drone bonus gives 50% hitpoints, but every ship in the game now has a FREE 50% - 100% HP bonus.
I do not agree with the latest changes to the BCs, roll them back and see what happens.
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