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Jade Blackwind
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
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Posted - 2015.04.09 09:50:41 -
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DerpimusPrime Aihaken wrote:So im a ganker that love to blap AutoPiloters and noobs hauling their *beep*.
But i've noticed more and more people coming to collect a km but yet calling it anti-ganking.
What im trying to figure out is why they call themselves anti-gankers when they dont save the target im going for, but only collecting km's filled with gateguns. So what im asking is, what is the point of that? Silly you. What is the point of killmail whoring, you ask? Well, there's no point. You gank, you get concorded, and everyone who is around and isn't too lazy tries to get on your mail. It's normal, it's the nature of the sandbox. Who cares how they call themselves?
But, if you come to the forums to shed tears, it means that those killmail whores somehow interrupted your activities. It means that they matter. Thus, you answer your own question:
DerpimusPrime Aihaken wrote:So what im asking is, what is the point of that? To make you create this thread. |
kraken11 jensen
The Gallant Collective Requiem Eternal
82
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Posted - 2015.04.09 13:18:28 -
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I know some people that used to be active in the anti ganking community. And as far as I know they did care about stopping gank attempts. I know some people fitted very effective tracking disruptor setups. and some went with jammer ships. (some other went with tornados too to alpha off the ganker ship. (this was just an exsample) also I suppose doing logi is possible to do as well. |
Syrilian
Ascending Angels
64
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Posted - 2015.04.09 13:21:45 -
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One of my goals in the game is to eventually fly a SB, and roam around and pop anyone with a -5 sec rating and also anyone gate camping. |
Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1076
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Posted - 2015.04.09 13:29:06 -
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Syrilian wrote:One of my goals in the game is to eventually fly a SB, and roam around and pop anyone with a -5 sec rating and also anyone gate camping. And then you die to a tripple-volley thrasher at a gate. Then you will learn that hubris is a bad thing and pay attention again.
Then you will jump through when you are being attacked ... ... right into the trap on the other side.
In any way... good idea. Content for everyone.
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
"I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon
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Paranoid Loyd
4608
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Posted - 2015.04.09 13:32:49 -
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Syrilian wrote:One of my goals in the game is to eventually fly a SB, and roam around and pop anyone with a -5 sec rating and also anyone gate camping. Hope to see you soon
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1076
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Posted - 2015.04.09 13:33:10 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:How is somebody called who kills the gankers' haulers for loot? I don't know, but it's ineffective.
Chance is too high that he is full of stabs and gets away. I once killed a hauling iteron in a rifter by bumping it out of align until it popped. That actually works ...
... but most fun is to be had to shoot the wreck and poof the loot .........
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
"I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1076
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Posted - 2015.04.09 13:34:25 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Syrilian wrote:One of my goals in the game is to eventually fly a SB, and roam around and pop anyone with a -5 sec rating and also anyone gate camping. Hope to see you soon I think it's remarkable how clueless people are and how their own ignorance makes it easy to kill them.
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
"I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon
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Jenshae Chiroptera
1252
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Posted - 2015.04.09 13:51:33 -
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Eve Solecist wrote:I think it's remarkable how clueless people are and how their own ignorance and hubris makes it easy to kill them. I am beginning to suspect from the way you regurgitate forum catch phrases and your terrible poetry that you are a bot using a word cloud algorithm.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1076
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Posted - 2015.04.09 13:54:23 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Eve Solecist wrote:I think it's remarkable how clueless people are and how their own ignorance and hubris makes it easy to kill them. I am beginning to suspect from the way you regurgitate forum catch phrases and your terrible poetry that you are a bot using a word cloud algorithm. Actually I have an algorithm that scans through posts, does some interesting number crunching and spits out a percentage chance of who is who's alt, based on the words they use and other things.
Based on that I only need to type filler words and the software fills out the rest for me.
Half of this post is true.
Pick a side, I don't care.
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
"I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon
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Sophia Skinner
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2015.04.09 14:03:35 -
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Syrilian wrote:One of my goals in the game is to eventually fly a SB, and roam around and pop anyone with a -5 sec rating and also anyone gate camping.
In a Stealth Bomber? Good luck with that |
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Jenshae Chiroptera
1252
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Posted - 2015.04.09 14:04:58 -
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Sophia Skinner wrote:In a Stealth Bomber? I prefer calling them Suicide Bombers.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
127
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Posted - 2015.04.09 14:16:09 -
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kraken11 jensen wrote:I suppose doing logi is possible to do as well.
Not really. As soon as the logi lands some reps on the gank target, the logi goes suspect and is free to be shot by anybody. Good way to lose a logistics ship without accomplishing anything.
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Sarah Flynt
Federation Interstellar Resources Silent Infinity
82
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Posted - 2015.04.09 15:36:56 -
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Eli Stan wrote:kraken11 jensen wrote:I suppose doing logi is possible to do as well. Not really. As soon as the logi lands some reps on the gank target, the logi goes suspect and is free to be shot by anybody. Good way to lose a logistics ship without accomplishing anything. No. Logis only go suspect if the gank target has an active limited engagement which he usually only has if he has accepted a duel from a friendly (or not so friendly) webbing alt/pilot. But even then, logis will only go suspect if their safety is set to yellow or red. If the safety is set to green, the reppers will simply deactivate.
Depending on the composition of the gankfleet and the number of logis, they can have a huge impact. Many freighters were safed that way.
Sick of High-Sec gankers? Join the public channel Anti-ganking and the dedicated intel channel Gank-Intel !
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Mag's
the united
19269
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Posted - 2015.04.09 15:54:19 -
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I wish more players made the effort and started shooting -5 players and below. Some may leave it a little late, but that tends to be due to -5 and blow not being able to hang around for long. Faction police can be a real pain.
But let's face it, the whole AG campaign is a bit meh most of the time. Because :EFFORT:
**Destination SkillQueue:- **
It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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Lyron-Baktos
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
472
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Posted - 2015.04.09 15:57:04 -
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DerpimusPrime Aihaken wrote:So im a ganker that love to blap AutoPiloters and noobs hauling their *beep*.
But i've noticed more and more people coming to collect a km but yet calling it anti-ganking.
What im trying to figure out is why they call themselves anti-gankers when they dont save the target im going for, but only collecting km's filled with gateguns. So what im asking is, what is the point of that?
And as you prob will ask, whats the point of ganking in hi-sec? Loot ofcorse.
Lol. You complain about someone getting a worthless km when your km is worthless as well |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
8333
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Posted - 2015.04.09 16:07:47 -
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Is shooting gankers considered creating content?
It is from where I'm sitting. Which used to be on a gate waiting for some moron to start scanning every ship passing by and then blowing him up. I didn't do it to be an anti-ganker. Whatever that is. I did it for fun and tears.
Tears are tears people! Ganker or carebear, they all taste the same to me.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Joan Miles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2015.04.09 16:13:46 -
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If it's autopiloting and a sitting loot pinata >> shoot it. >> Mentality : Ganker
If it's suspect / criminal and you can deal with it >> shoot it >> Mentality : AntiGanker
I don't get why there is buhuhu this AntiGanker is shooting me .. buhuhu this Ganker is shooting me... meh.. Anything not breaking the game or its rules is allowed. What's the deal with posts like this one exactly?
You do what you enjoy, they will do what they enjoy. The game is a sandbox. You interact with other players. It's a ruthless , chaotic PvP game you are playing. People like to shoot you in the face. Man up and enjoy it.
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Nalia White
Tencus
97
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Posted - 2015.04.09 16:17:10 -
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what's the reason for ganking miners? it surely isn't the loot. it's the "tears".
your 4 page thread here shows that the "anti-gankers" had a full success because you are bothered with them :P maybe ganker tears?
edit: mr epeen said it better :) |
Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1136
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Posted - 2015.04.09 16:19:31 -
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People not reading what's written ...
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
"I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon
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Astecus
Astral Sanctuary - 4th Division
75
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Posted - 2015.04.09 17:04:18 -
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Reasons for 'whoring' besides actually stopping the gank:
- Logs - Kill reports contain lots of useful info and poking the ganker increases the chance of both getting the ingame kill report and having it show up on killboards - very useful for great tools like GankerLookout.com. Also gankers killed solely by gate guns haven't been showing up like concord kills has (this might change soon).
- Bounties - Poking battlecruisers often pays out bounties in the millions, so if you have hostile modules and someone turns criminal, spending 5 sec to poke them is quick ISK even if it is just 1 mill.
I'm also going to argue that 90% of my current 'kills' on any of my characters conveys a real chance of actually stopping a gank. I particularly like the ones done with my unusual ECM Nemesis, I might have stopped 10 ganks with it and I don't recall ever failing to stop a sologank, even successfully jamming a catalyst with ECCM twice. |
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Jenshae Chiroptera
1258
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Posted - 2015.04.09 18:09:40 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Tears are tears people! Gankers are carebears, they all taste the same to me. Mr Epeen Fixed that one for you. Often hiding behind anonymous alts, undocking in empty pods and cheap ships to attack ships that usually have no chance of surviving the attack or fighting back? Attacking the weakest ships in the game is more carebear than any ratter or miners that undocks despite how useless they are in the face of an attack.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Staten Island
The Offical Balder Fan Club
28
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Posted - 2015.04.09 18:32:03 -
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DerpimusPrime Aihaken wrote:So im a ganker that love to blap AutoPiloters and noobs hauling their *beep*.
But i've noticed more and more people coming to collect a km but yet calling it anti-ganking.
What im trying to figure out is why they call themselves anti-gankers when they dont save the target im going for, but only collecting km's filled with gateguns. So what im asking is, what is the point of that?
And as you prob will ask, whats the point of ganking in hi-sec? Loot ofcorse.
You know whats fun? Sitting in a belt in an cloaked insta-locking sb waiting for a ganker to pop a barge and then after they get conkorkianened, popping their pod. The tears are hysterical. You know whats even more fun? Popping their scoop ship and stealing their loot. Good times.
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Staten Island
The Offical Balder Fan Club
28
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Posted - 2015.04.09 18:35:17 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:Tears are tears people! Gankers are carebears, they all taste the same to me. Mr Epeen Fixed that one for you. Often hiding behind anonymous alts, undocking in empty pods and cheap ships to attack ships that usually have no chance of surviving the attack or fighting back? Attacking the weakest ships in the game is more carebear than any ratter or miners that undocks despite how useless they are in the face of an attack.
The majority of eve combat is asymmetrical. If your target has a chance of fighting back you are doing it wrong. It doesnt matter whether its ganking carebears in hs or blopping a titan in null. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
1258
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Posted - 2015.04.09 18:41:52 -
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Staten Island wrote:The majority of eve combat is asymmetrical. If your target has a chance of fighting back you are doing it wrong. It doesnt matter whether its ganking carebears in hs or blopping a titan in null, its all one and the same.
From a personal view, I hate it when my targets shoot back. Recently, I was in a Nightmare fleet, we were trapped in a dead end system and they had superior forces camping us on the gate.
We had a superior composition and perfectly executed them.
The really sweet spot for me was in High Sec wars when there was 10-15 vs 10-15. We didn't have any logi pilots, I would jump first in a Cyclone and try active / speed tanking while applying some damage long enough for them to break.
It is those moments when you feel the weight of a battle hanging in the balance across your shoulders, where a single mistake means that your side are wiped out. That! Is the real EVE rush.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Staten Island
The Offical Balder Fan Club
30
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Posted - 2015.04.09 20:31:06 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Staten Island wrote:The majority of eve combat is asymmetrical. If your target has a chance of fighting back you are doing it wrong. It doesnt matter whether its ganking carebears in hs or blopping a titan in null, its all one and the same.
From a personal view, I hate it when my targets shoot back. Recently, I was in a Nightmare fleet, we were trapped in a dead end system and they had superior forces camping us on the gate. We had a superior composition and perfectly executed them. The really sweet spot for me was in High Sec wars when there was 10-15 vs 10-15. We didn't have any logi pilots, I would jump first in a Cyclone and try active / speed tanking while applying some damage long enough for them to break. It is those moments when you feel the weight of a battle hanging in the balance across your shoulders, where a single mistake means that your side are wiped out. That! Is the real EVE rush.
Meh. Battles in eve are rock paper scissor. The vast majority of fights are decided at the decision of whether to engage or not. |
Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
127
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Posted - 2015.04.09 20:59:48 -
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Staten Island wrote:The majority of eve combat is asymmetrical. If your target has a chance of fighting back you are doing it wrong. It doesnt matter whether its ganking carebears in hs or blopping a titan in null, its all one and the same.
From a personal view, I hate it when my targets shoot back.
To me, that sounds as exciting as shooting a tiny red cross. Or mining a rock. Which is to say, dreadfully boring. The most exciting times in EVE for me has been when we've engaged a fleet larger than us, or more powerful than us, or more expensive than us - and we emerged victorious. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
35712
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Posted - 2015.04.09 21:09:06 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Attacking the weakest ships in the game is more carebear than any ratter or miners that undocks despite how useless they are in the face of an attack. People in glass houses.... lest people check your own killboard and see mobile depots, mobile tractor units, industrials, T1 fit BNI Atrons killed by a larger fleet, etc.
That could also be judged as more carebear than a ratter.
But it's stuff we all have on our killboards, because at the end of the day many of us that pvp like to kill stuff and those things are as valid a target as anything else. Making judgements about how others choose to pvp is kind of lame in that case, since most of us don't live by any higher standard.
Some just like to pretend they do.
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Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
986
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Posted - 2015.04.09 21:09:09 -
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Eli Stan wrote:Staten Island wrote:The majority of eve combat is asymmetrical. If your target has a chance of fighting back you are doing it wrong. It doesnt matter whether its ganking carebears in hs or blopping a titan in null, its all one and the same.
From a personal view, I hate it when my targets shoot back. To me, that sounds as exciting as shooting a tiny red cross. Or mining a rock. Which is to say, dreadfully boring. The most exciting times in EVE for me has been when we've engaged a fleet larger than us, or more powerful than us, or more expensive than us - and we emerged victorious. Rats don't send you whining messages or Evemails when you shoot them. Nor do they have loot drops on par with freighters. Other than that, yeah it's kinda similar. |
Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1183
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Posted - 2015.04.09 21:23:27 -
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Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Eli Stan wrote:Staten Island wrote:The majority of eve combat is asymmetrical. If your target has a chance of fighting back you are doing it wrong. It doesnt matter whether its ganking carebears in hs or blopping a titan in null, its all one and the same.
From a personal view, I hate it when my targets shoot back. To me, that sounds as exciting as shooting a tiny red cross. Or mining a rock. Which is to say, dreadfully boring. The most exciting times in EVE for me has been when we've engaged a fleet larger than us, or more powerful than us, or more expensive than us - and we emerged victorious. Rats don't send you whining messages or Evemails when you shoot them. Nor do they have loot drops on par with freighters. Other than that, yeah it's kinda similar. Imagine if they did! OMG LOL :D
This one is one of my better posts. You should see the others ....
"I've tried to give up making sexual innuendos. But it's hard, so hard." -RoAnnon
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
2089
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Posted - 2015.04.09 21:41:25 -
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The carebear world is plagued by inaction. They cry and moan and wail endlessly about ganking, but 99.9% of them will not lift a finger to do anything about it, either by taking action or by attempting to defend themselves.
Subsequently when a carebear decides to do anything at all, even if it's something that doesn't even affect the outcome of a gank such as whoring on one of a dozen catalysts as they gank something coming through a gate they feel an elevated sense of achievement far beyond the actual impact of their actions.
The majority of other carebears won't do anything at all except complain and die, by those standards those who make faint, half hearted gestures are heroes by comparison to their peers. |
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