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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.30 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: Bermag I think most users value getting modules they can use to be more valuable. But getting stuff for riggs might be interesting.
But getting alloys for loot might become a logistical nightmare in regions which don't have stations. Can't refine them in a POS and they take more space than loot (compared to their mineral value at least for the lower end alloys). It will probably not be that interesting to go out and do "ninja-ratting" in those regions since you will only get the rewards if you succesfully transport the stuff out.
You are assuming players wont just *build* stations? I hear that drone droppings will be refinable in POS refiners now- any half decent corp can afford to put up a refining POS.
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Harisdrop
Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.30 16:35:00 -
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If you dont have pirates in non npc regions. Why are there pirates in the current regions?
Please remove the npc pirates from regions that are not controled by NPC. Gurista pilots should only be in Venal 0.0 the rest non-npc-Sov 0.0 should be Rogue Drones thru out EVE.
Originally by: Tuxford .....stuff... Btw I did mess a bit with tech 2 ammo, I'll post a bit about that later.
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Dread Lord
Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2006.10.30 22:37:00 -
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i hope they will make new drones for this and that the icons will reflect the sig radius (not just frigs and bs crosses)
maby we will see drone plexes that will go higher that 6/10
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One
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Posted - 2006.10.31 00:04:00 -
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The NPC aspect of Eve needs a complete overhaul. Pirates factions should be much less widespread, and NPC stations should be much less common even in high sec.
Space is big, and for the most part empty. Resources are good, but NPCs are what keeps inflation going in Eve.
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Xornicon Altair
Caldari Galactic Express The Guardian Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.31 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Arushia Which ice types will spawn in these regions?
Please don't make the nice lady have to repeat herself. Someone please answer this question.
Even I want to know the answer to this.
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Meeko Gloom
Species 5618 Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.31 03:07:00 -
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Originally by: Xornicon Altair
Originally by: Arushia Which ice types will spawn in these regions?
Please don't make the nice lady have to repeat herself. Someone please answer this question.
Even I want to know the answer to this.
I was just about to ask that, why not each race get 2 regions... 8/4 = 2 --------------------------
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Nyack
GREY COUNCIL
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Posted - 2006.10.31 12:39:00 -
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not sure if i got it right but arnt the new regions called cosmos regions aswell? that you will only find the new stuff to build the best boosters in the new regions? that emplies that there will be alot of agents, complexes etc. plenty do do for the old school npc:ers.. addign both complexes and belts rats would make the region to wealthy i guess.. and with all those complex and cosmos whoring i guess mining will be abit risky giving rogue drones a good mineral source instead of mining to teh alliances living there..
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Za Po
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.31 14:29:00 -
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A nice idea would be to make a drone's red cross reflect its signature radius. As things stand now, one has to memorize the various types of drones to figure out what weapons are better, which is annoying and doesn't really makes too much sense.
It would also help if the size of their models reflected their sig radius as well...
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Helison
Gallente Times of Ancar THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2006.10.31 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: Nyack not sure if i got it right but arnt the new regions called cosmos regions aswell? that you will only find the new stuff to build the best boosters in the new regions? that emplies that there will be alot of agents, complexes etc. plenty do do for the old school npc:ers.. addign both complexes and belts rats would make the region to wealthy i guess.. and with all those complex and cosmos whoring i guess mining will be abit risky giving rogue drones a good mineral source instead of mining to teh alliances living there..
No, the Cosmos constellations will not be in the new regions, but in the old 0.0 regions.
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Bozl1n
Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.11.01 07:35:00 -
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Originally by: Illuminaty So let me get this straight:
-Rouge Drones (that do all 4 types of damage) -No bounties -No Modules, much less named modules -No Sec Status -No faction standings
-No officer/faction modules
So all you get from ratting is a cargohold full of stuff that has no other use than to refine to minerals.
I'm wondering if they are going to continue with the 90% of 0.0 is trash, and 10% is over the top, wealth distribution and make it basically 100% pointless to rat in anything other than -1.0 systems because all you'll end up with is a cargohold full of compounds that give you trit with some pyre mixed in.
At least make them drop BPCs for named modules or _something_.
I guess the bright side is that since ISS lives in space that nobody else wants, we might get 8 regions to set outposts up in.
I mean, yea, I've got a bit of sarcasm here, but this no bounty, no module thing just isn't striking me as a good idea at all.
There are 25 -1.0 systems in eve, those 25 will remain i think as they are, which are already within the current map. This was due to the map originaly being generated randomly.
Back in gemini the -1.0 - 0.0 sec status had MASSIVE impact on what that system contained, mainly because of the rat spawn that was possable, in that in the -1.0s the top spawn of 3 x 50k rats was possable and it would also double and triple spawn sometimes. Yes there was always good ore in those systems to, but there also was good ore in parts of fountain that were around -0.4 or above.
These days i honestly cant see much difference in the way the spawns roll out when in a -1.0 or a 0.0, they certainly have little bearing on ore now as (at least) 2 of the old -1s now dont even contain high end ore.
Soverignty seems to have far more effect on the chances of finding officers etc
True sec status is a bit of a myth these days i think, back in the day it did mean sommin, now????
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Kunming
Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.01 22:11:00 -
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The rogue drone idea and compunds only loot is one of the better ideas CCP has put forward to this day. It is perfect for some corps that are self sufficient and build their own stuff while it will be a pain for others to set a foot in the region which has no supply than the own you generate... including safety
Hardcore 0.0 space 4TW thank you CCP :hugs:
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Zingu
Gallente Crafty Productions Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2006.11.02 14:32:00 -
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Isn't the minerals from a lone drone comander dominix worth close to two millions if refined and take up around 60-70m^3?
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Alpine 69
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.02 16:31:00 -
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drone domi's are worth 4m+ easily http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a134/undergrounder69/siggieartv15.jpg Limits for signatures are 400x120 pixels and 24,000 bytes. Please fix your signature. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip mods feel free to have random discussions in my sig :P |
Svavz
Gallente Random Execution Party
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Posted - 2006.11.02 18:04:00 -
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cmon itl be like fun mining Biggest black and death metal fan in iceland |
Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.03 01:30:00 -
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Edited by: Patch86 on 03/11/2006 01:30:10
Originally by: Kunming The rogue drone idea and compunds only loot is one of the better ideas CCP has put forward to this day. It is perfect for some corps that are self sufficient and build their own stuff while it will be a pain for others to set a foot in the region which has no supply than the own you generate... including safety
Hardcore 0.0 space 4TW thank you CCP :hugs:
Best thing about this? Rogue Drones are the Great Self-Replicating Menice (Replicators, Mantids, Nano-Bots, [insert every grey-goo theory invented here]).From all the hype they get, theres no reason they couldn't "over-run" more regions, getting rid of the masses of bounty'd pirates that so feed inflation.
My vision of EVE would be a universe dominated by the "wild animals" taht are rogue drones, with the various human strongholds dominated by the Empires and pirate factions. A boy can dream -----------------------------------------------
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Securion Wolfheart
Caldari Semper Fidelis Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.03 13:05:00 -
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I want to see rogue drones invade and destroy Jita. Like a drone-Jihad or something. Please?
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Vasiliyan
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2006.11.03 15:41:00 -
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Can anyone confirm that the drone droppings will be refinable/usable at a POS?
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Rafein
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.03 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Vasiliyan Can anyone confirm that the drone droppings will be refinable/usable at a POS?
You mean, other than the dev that posted earlier???
All I can say is wow, whoever controls this space will be a force. Being able to create and endless supply of ships without mining. And all you gotta do is drag the Zyd/Mega to Empire to sell for isk, and just need a Carrier for quick jump, as Zyd/Mega is very high on value per M3
Though i wonder if this will cause all mineral prices to crash again.
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mallina
Caldari DeStInY.
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Posted - 2006.11.04 20:12:00 -
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I welcome npcs that drop large quantities of compounds and nothing more, make people work for their isk
so long as the asteroids have bounties ----------- Turbulance |
Daelin Blackleaf
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Posted - 2006.11.05 23:59:00 -
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Mallina you made me choke on my coffee
I love this idea, instead of boring, inflation inducing bounties and the oft considered essential named modules, residents will get minerals and good salvage. A different economy will grow here and that can only be good for EVE at large. If it works well Id expect similar changes or other kinds of divergence from the norm in both new and old regions.
Love the idea of seeing residents here directly trading high quality rigs for named modules from other regions residents.
Definite progress, more variety, and possibly more interaction between alliances other than NAPs and warfare.
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Sir Bart
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Posted - 2006.11.06 07:27:00 -
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I think no bounties are a great idea. Basically this space is going to be the hardcore 0.0.... I mean, you need to work as a corp to get isk (hop capitals to empire to sell mins / plush). Manufacture all modules and distribute them to members and purchase what you can't build.
I can't wait to see what alliance is going to move in there... and what alliance is waiting for someone else to move in and make some outposts so they can invade and not have to make the outposts themselves. It's gonna be awsome, I sure hope my corp takes part. So long as we have a corp with t2 long range guns in the alliance, I'll have a field day. As for not getting those sec boosts... well, that's been an uphill battle anyways.
-Bart
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Rod Blaine
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.06 11:51:00 -
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I wouldn't mind seeing rogue drones replace current pirate NPC's in all non Pirate-faction home regions and other regions that sport NPC stations.
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Mesuno
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Posted - 2006.11.06 12:14:00 -
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Am I correct in thinking that the new regions have no stations?
I wonder how long it will be before ISS get a public outpost out there? Refinery taxes alone would give an astronomical yield with every man and his dog melting down every thing he kills for minerals.
That and it would be the sole market point - it would turn into a real hub.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2006.11.06 18:09:00 -
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Liking the novel approach. With different competing hives sporting their own tactics the regions would be even more colorful. Add a new look to the POS to make it easy on the eye and I'm there zapping some tachyon mining lasers.
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Kryse
Caldari Martial Mercantile
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Posted - 2006.11.06 19:23:00 -
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Oh, to those saying drones need to be given accurate icons to indicate cruiser and battle cruiser sized ships, they have them now - just went for a spin in the new region. I'll try to post a screenie a little later.
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Attak
Trioptimum FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.06 21:40:00 -
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Is there any chance these new regions are going to be moved elsewhere before release? It seems a bit silly that they're being left where they were for the entire game, what with being all smushed together and having one empire region for everyone who wants to enter them.
I absolutely love the systems, the NPCs ect, but they way they're distributed atm just seems a little sloppy.
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Rod Blaine
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.07 11:38:00 -
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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 07/11/2006 11:40:56 they wont move. But note that there are many entrances, and not jsut from one empire region either. But at least that side of empire might get some more attention in future, if massive amounts of minerals make it onto the market from the new 0.0 regions.
Personally i'd love ntohing more then see caldari space wither away and die
btw, about npc's. I always wondered why blood raiders have the tracking disruption effect and not the nosferatu effect like they should have according to CCP.
That gonna get fixed at any time ?
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Futher Bezluden
Minmatar Red Dwarf Mining Corps Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.11.07 18:32:00 -
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What would have been nice, is if CCP had spent time separating the new regions, putting them around the outside of current 0.0/lowsec regions instead of leaving them as one gigantic clump with some seriously stupid looking access points. Tenal/Venal highway straight through Jove space???
Please, consider splitting these 8 new regions and relocating them evenly throughout eve with decent 0.0/lowsec access points where it permits. You want alliances fighting over resources, but clumped it all together so far from the major alliances that it'll cause a mass migration and blog the area down with lag so thick a navy Abaddon wouldn't be able to cut through it. Having low-sec access points from only Metro and Molden is lame. Stick a few of the new regions between/around the following to disperse them a bit for everyone.
Fountain/Delve/Aridia Geminate/GW/Molden & Metro Querious/Stain/Khanid Catch/Providence/Tash Murkon Tribute/Venal Deklein/Venal/Branch Lonetrek/Cloud Ring/Placid Solitude/Fountain/Aridia
Please, unclump "01" space, this isn't the matrix. The Machines don't get their own empire. THUKKER -Be Paranoid
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Attak
Trioptimum FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.07 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: Futher Bezluden What would have been nice, is if CCP had spent time separating the new regions, putting them around the outside of current 0.0/lowsec regions instead of leaving them as one gigantic clump with some seriously stupid looking access points. Tenal/Venal highway straight through Jove space???
Please, consider splitting these 8 new regions and relocating them evenly throughout eve with decent 0.0/lowsec access points where it permits. You want alliances fighting over resources, but clumped it all together so far from the major alliances that it'll cause a mass migration and blog the area down with lag so thick a navy Abaddon wouldn't be able to cut through it. Having low-sec access points from only Metro and Molden is lame. Stick a few of the new regions between/around the following to disperse them a bit for everyone.
Fountain/Delve/Aridia Geminate/GW/Molden & Metro Querious/Stain/Khanid Catch/Providence/Tash Murkon Tribute/Venal Deklein/Venal/Branch Lonetrek/Cloud Ring/Placid Solitude/Fountain/Aridia
Please, unclump "01" space, this isn't the matrix. The Machines don't get their own empire.
Exactly! It looks sloppy, the regional entrances from the north are ridiculous, and the entrances from empire are going to be stupidly crowded. Why not spread the regions out a little? What harm would it do? As they are, only a few alliances will have a reliable chance of exploiting them, and %90 of EVE is going to be left fighting over chokepoints.
At the very least, put the new regions in a managable arrangement. If you want one to link to Tenal, put it close to Tenal. If you want 5 entrances around Cache (total BS btw), arrange the regions around Cache.
Please, even out the new regions. It needs to be done before release, because once they're out there, there's simply no way they're going anywhere.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.07 23:24:00 -
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