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HankMurphy Pelennor Swarm Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.10.27 00:15:00 - [1] did i miss this somewhere? did they state what the NPC type(s) will be? I heard someone mention rogue drones, but no idea if that was just hot air or not.

Mephysto	Posted - 2006.10.27 09:22:00 - [2] NPC's in the new regions are Rogue Drones.

Ficti0n FireTech Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.27 09:25:00 - [3] Does this mean, no bounty and no mods in their loot? Just alloys as usual?
Kapitanleutnant Mei	Posted - 2006.10.27 09:30:00 - [4] no as they are asteroid npc's they have bounties.. don;t know aboutb thier loot drops though
PKlavins Caldari eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.27 09:33:00 - [5] will they have the equivalent of officer spawns? like domination angels...er...ubarpwnage drone? COOKIES FOR MODS IN TEH UBAR SIGZ0R! first -eris
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2006.10.27 10:29:00 - [6] Atm they just drop alloys & compounds, but they're very unfinished - some still lack bounties, there are no baddies above 1m-ish isk, etc. ---------------- Please fix BC Sig/Agility!
Bermag Point-Zero Ratel Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.27 10:46:00 - [7] Originally by: Mephysto NPC's in the new regions are Rogue Drones. I thought the rogue drones were only place holders. One good thing, ratting without negative standing agaisnt a faction. Does killing rogue drones give security level boost?
Miss Overlord Gallente EUROPEANS	Posted - 2006.10.27 11:02:00 - [8] i thought that u were going to add quite a lot of randomness out there (UDI,EOM type rats as well as rogue drones and other named goodies i think for now tho the rogue drones are the first implementation of more diversity over time out in the new regions)
FawKa Gallente Old Farts The Phantom Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.27 11:25:00 - [9] no loot? or Faction domi bpc's? faction drones? give me
The Armin Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.10.27 12:00:00 - [10] And a question I've been wondering about, will we see any of the excisting NPC pirate factions move into the new regions, or will we see any of the new NPC pirates move into alraedy excisting regions ? Like for an instance will the Guristas conquer the North of the new regions, and Angels the southeast one, will the drones conquer Tenal etc ? =P (By this I mean just in roids, no npc stations pls :o))
MindBender Acheron Vanguard Armada The Shadow Ascension	Posted - 2006.10.27 17:27:00 - [11] There are Drones in the new regions, they only drop alloys, but they drop high ammounts. There have been spotted up to 5million bounty Drones (TOUGH too) but I've been told they are a rarity. Drones are camping gates and in Belts from what I've seen.
John Blackthorn Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.10.27 18:24:00 - [12] Dropping alloyws is all good and everything.. but how are you going to get them to empire to refine them? Pos can't refine them that i'm aware of. No outposts :P -John
Johnathan Roark Caldari Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2006.10.27 19:08:00 - [13] Originally by: John Blackthorn Dropping alloyws is all good and everything.. but how are you going to get them to empire to refine them? Pos can't refine them that i'm aware of. No outposts :P -John I'd be willing to help any group that takes a region solve that problem for a price. I'm willing to bet we see at least one outpost in the new regions within the first month. Corporation Management Improvement
Black Scorpio	Posted - 2006.10.27 19:49:00 - [14] signed.
FroztByteUK	Posted - 2006.10.27 20:36:00 - [15] shh... rogue drones are relly controlled by the jovians and they dont want you to think that they are really controlling the rest of eve..... so keep it quiet....

Mephysto	Posted - 2006.10.27 22:28:00 - [16] Belt Rogue Drones will have no bounties, will drop only compounds. Incidentaly, refining arrays for POS's have been updated to allow the refining of rogue drone compounds too.

Verite Rendition Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2006.10.27 22:39:00 - [17] Originally by: Mephysto Belt Rogue Drones will have no bounties, will drop only compounds. Incidentaly, refining arrays for POS's have been updated to allow the refining of rogue drone compounds too. Won't this screw up the economy in that part of space though? No one will actually make money, they'll just get stuff that they can sell for money(possibly inducing deflation?). ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic
Father Weebles Panzershrek Blood Raiders Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.27 22:49:00 - [18] no offense, but rogue drones with no bounties (and prolly no sec increase) is probably a bad idea. "Welcome to EVE, where inflation is out of control."
bluecheast Four Rings Myriad Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.27 23:18:00 - [19] Originally by: Verite Rendition Originally by: Mephysto Belt Rogue Drones will have no bounties, will drop only compounds. Incidentaly, refining arrays for POS's have been updated to allow the refining of rogue drone compounds too. Won't this screw up the economy in that part of space though? No one will actually make money, they'll just get stuff that they can sell for money(possibly inducing deflation?). Thats an awsome counter inflation effort then The Rings Forums
HankMurphy Pelennor Swarm Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.10.27 23:24:00 - [20] Originally by: Mephysto NPC's in the new regions are Rogue Drones. badarse! a common statement is : Angels are the toughest NPCs in eve (due to 3 damage types, exp focus etc..). Well iirc Rouge Drones have quite a spread of damage types and can be pretty nasty in their hive packs. I cant wait to see what you have in store for us Originally by: Verite Rendition Won't this screw up the economy in that part of space though? What economy? No stations, no regional markets and escrows. Sure there will be outposts eventually, but i think the idea of the new regions is something that we haven't seen yet in eve. The resources surrounding you will be very valuable, i'm guessing enough to fuel some nice sized cap fleets and many many outposts. But cashing in on them (for the average solo ratting pilot) wont be so easy. Originally by: Father Weebles no offense, but rogue drones with no bounties (and prolly no sec increase) is probably a bad idea. just cause something is different, i dont think its necessarily bad. Especially when the minerals you can get off those drones will likely be worth much more than the average rat bounty.
Cividari Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.10.27 23:32:00 - [21] Originally by: Mephysto Belt Rogue Drones will have no bounties, will drop only compounds. Incidentaly, refining arrays for POS's have been updated to allow the refining of rogue drone compounds too. I really love this idea. It will greatly help establishing a market there with the high ammount of minerals it will create.
Ronin Reborn Dark-Rising	Posted - 2006.10.27 23:41:00 - [22] Forgive me for a stupid question, but having never run a bunch of missions or complexes I know little about rogue drones. All the ones I've seen are small, frigates would be an applicable to compare. Are there going to be larger drone rats, ie cruiser and BS sized? Warp scrambling rats? Sounds different indeed, however if they drop alloys I could see the new regions being either extremely rich or poor. However, I DO think that a group of players with a lot of bpos (and pos(s)/outpost) could stay out there indeffinately due to it.
Father Weebles Panzershrek Blood Raiders Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.27 23:44:00 - [23] Edited by: Father Weebles on 27/10/2006 23:46:41 yeah the minerals might be worth a lot but who in their right mind would want to haul a ****load of mins through 00 entries and sell it when its 15+ jumps back to empire keep the old system please "Welcome to EVE, where inflation is out of control."
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries	Posted - 2006.10.27 23:51:00 - [24] Originally by: Ronin Reborn Forgive me for a stupid question, but having never run a bunch of missions or complexes I know little about rogue drones. All the ones I've seen are small, frigates would be an applicable to compare. Are there going to be larger drone rats, ie cruiser and BS sized? Warp scrambling rats? Sounds different indeed, however if they drop alloys I could see the new regions being either extremely rich or poor. However, I DO think that a group of players with a lot of bpos (and pos(s)/outpost) could stay out there indeffinately due to it. They do have BS sizes too- "Infested" Dominixes. The rest, to date, have all been frigates though. -----------------------------------------------
Alex Logan Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.27 23:52:00 - [25] The 'old system' is still there, it's in every 0.0 system currently in existence... Would you rather ccp injected something new and exciting into the game or continued pumping out same old same old?
Father Weebles Panzershrek Blood Raiders Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.28 00:03:00 - [26] Edited by: Father Weebles on 28/10/2006 00:03:10 id rather make iskies and get sec increases rather than glorified mining "Welcome to EVE, where inflation is out of control."
Alex Logan Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.28 00:55:00 - [27] Did you even read what I wrote ? You can already do that in EVERY 0.0 region in the game Why should ccp add more of the same ? Do you not want more diversity in the game ?
Erotic Irony RONA Deepspace Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.10.28 01:29:00 - [28] Originally by: Cividari Originally by: Mephysto Belt Rogue Drones will have no bounties, will drop only compounds. Incidentaly, refining arrays for POS's have been updated to allow the refining of rogue drone compounds too. I really love this idea. It will greatly help establishing a market there with the high ammount of minerals it will create. Has anyone speculated if it was worth it in terms of fuel cost and hassle to move into these regions? Don't only the top two or three alloys even yield mega/zyd in respectable amounts? Right now it seems like it seems like its hardly worth the effort. Just add a few 15/15 drone complexes with infested fighters and carriers to these new regions and lets all get back to farming. ___
Illuminaty ISS Logistics Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.28 02:56:00 - [29] So let me get this straight: -Rouge Drones (that do all 4 types of damage) -No bounties -No Modules, much less named modules -No Sec Status -No faction standings -No officer/faction modules So all you get from ratting is a cargohold full of stuff that has no other use than to refine to minerals. I'm wondering if they are going to continue with the 90% of 0.0 is trash, and 10% is over the top, wealth distribution and make it basically 100% pointless to rat in anything other than -1.0 systems because all you'll end up with is a cargohold full of compounds that give you trit with some pyre mixed in. At least make them drop BPCs for named modules or _something_. I guess the bright side is that since ISS lives in space that nobody else wants, we might get 8 regions to set outposts up in. I mean, yea, I've got a bit of sarcasm here, but this no bounty, no module thing just isn't striking me as a good idea at all.
MissileRus	Posted - 2006.10.28 03:13:00 - [30] these will be regions that are fought over for the new resources as i get it so i dont mind if there isnt any bounty on the rats. minerals will be good for the ones that builds the first refining outpost. there will be more war in these regions then ratting hopefully --------------------------- 4. i like pizza
Anndy Caldari Praetorian Black Guard Serenus Letum	Posted - 2006.10.28 03:29:00 - [31] please please please make these rogue drones give security boosts it just really wouldn't be that fair for anyone that claims the new regions not to have anyway to get security boosts while all other regions have NPCs that give security
Fliewatuet Angelus dos Business	Posted - 2006.10.28 05:19:00 - [32] Wow, thats a really great idea. Carebear heaven it will be :D From a RPG point of view it makes sense. We can't fit anything dronish to our ships and this is a new region where theres no concord involved and thus no bounty from concord on those. I'm sure the regular freighter runs into empire to sell mins won't be a problem in the end, it will just be discussed a lot here. And best of all, it works against the current inflation in eve. I'm sure it won't help that much but it won't put any more money in the eve universe as well. Hurray! \o/ --
Illuminaty ISS Logistics Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.28 05:49:00 - [33] Originally by: Fliewatuet Wow, thats a really great idea. Carebear heaven it will be :D From a RPG point of view it makes sense. We can't fit anything dronish to our ships and this is a new region where theres no concord involved and thus no bounty from concord on those. I'm sure the regular freighter runs into empire to sell mins won't be a problem in the end, it will just be discussed a lot here. And best of all, it works against the current inflation in eve. I'm sure it won't help that much but it won't put any more money in the eve universe as well. Hurray! \o/ Well the problem I see is basically this: Ratting in a -0.15 system sucks, but you at least make -some- isk from it. You get some bounties on cruisers and frigs and maybe the occasional 500k or 900k battleship. You've got a chance of getting a good best or second best useful named mod, and a sliver of a chance at a faction spawn that drops some faction modules. If drones don't have bounties, and don't drop modules, then I'm worried that ratting in -0.15 space will literally have zero point. If all they do is drop garbage low value drone waste in the low end systems, then you might as well be mining veldspar in empire. Slowly filling out my cargohold with rare modules, and collecting a bunch of lame bounties adds up over time. Not at the absurd rates that you get in the good systems, but it does add up. Filling my cargohold up with a bunch of low value trash that refines for peanuts because no small and valuable items ever drop, would make ratting in the low value systems pointless. I fully support the idea of making it harder to introduce isk into the game as a whole. Using drone alloys just seems like a way where it literally becomes the situation where you either have a -1.0 system or your better off mining veldspar in empire.
Shimarra Caldari AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.28 07:46:00 - [34] Originally by: Illuminaty Well the problem I see is basically this: Ratting in a -0.15 system sucks, but you at least make -some- isk from it. You get some bounties on cruisers and frigs and maybe the occasional 500k or 900k battleship. You've got a chance of getting a good best or second best useful named mod, and a sliver of a chance at a faction spawn that drops some faction modules. If drones don't have bounties, and don't drop modules, then I'm worried that ratting in -0.15 space will literally have zero point. If all they do is drop garbage low value drone waste in the low end systems, then you might as well be mining veldspar in empire. Slowly filling out my cargohold with rare modules, and collecting a bunch of lame bounties adds up over time. Not at the absurd rates that you get in the good systems, but it does add up. Filling my cargohold up with a bunch of low value trash that refines for peanuts because no small and valuable items ever drop, would make ratting in the low value systems pointless. I fully support the idea of making it harder to introduce isk into the game as a whole. Using drone alloys just seems like a way where it literally becomes the situation where you either have a -1.0 system or your better off mining veldspar in empire. The main concept of rouge drones sounds much more geared to deterrent of invasion for players seeking to get at resources. They are not, it seems, meant to be an isk generating proposition, although there has been a previous statement by Meph that they will have their yields of materials increased, I believe, "a lot." The introduction of new materials is also a possibility. On the grounds of "why introduce an enemy with no bounty, no sec increase, and no mods to drop," this shows a marked change in the 0.0 dynamic. The new concept will have to be approached with an open mindset, and logically reacted to in such fashion. Some things, like bounty hunting the NPC pirates, will not work in such a region. Those seeking such careers would probably be more well suited to seek thier prey in the current systems. As stated above, I believe the function of the drones will be more "harvesting harassment" rather than "mobile cash cow." Shim Shim -------------------------- "oooh, mercoxit..." --------------------------
Zarch AlDain Friends of Everyone	Posted - 2006.10.28 10:37:00 - [35] Yeeh, it sounds good to me. Something new and different - I can already see mass freighter convoys from the new regions carying minerals into empire to sell :) Zarch AlDain
Deviana Sevidon Gallente easyCredits O X I D E	Posted - 2006.10.28 11:59:00 - [36] I also like the idea of an area infested with Rogue Drones. My only concern is: do we get more then one Model for BS-Sized Drones? The Dominix-from-Junkyard seems to be a bit overused. I would like to see some kind of Wreck-Model from every BS ingame, for use by the Rogue Drones. Also some kind of Faction-Modules would also be nice. Like an upgraded Drone-Control Unit or rare spawns, dropping a 10run-BPC of special Drones.
Swamp Ziro EPSILON TEAM Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.10.28 12:07:00 - [37] Contrary to popular belief, there ARE right now, in TQ, drones of all sizes. Sure, they have frigate cross in the overview, but if you look at their signature radius, you see inty sized, frig sized, destro sized, cruiser sized and BC sized.
Spoony Brook terra firma team Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.28 13:57:00 - [38] Edited by: Spoony Brook on 28/10/2006 13:58:14 Originally by: Deviana Sevidon I also like the idea of an area infested with Rogue Drones. My only concern is: do we get more then one Model for BS-Sized Drones? The Dominix-from-Junkyard seems to be a bit overused. how about infested vexors' or myrmidons' (or arbitrators)? sure its not BS like you asked, but it adds variation and they can drop more sort after loot/whatever
Vera Nosfyu Minmatar	Posted - 2006.10.28 14:55:00 - [39] Originally by: Deviana Sevidon I also like the idea of an area infested with Rogue Drones. My only concern is: do we get more then one Model for BS-Sized Drones? The Dominix-from-Junkyard seems to be a bit overused. I would like to see some kind of Wreck-Model from every BS ingame, for use by the Rogue Drones. You do realize that no other faction has more than one model for their BS, right? And that the Bloods and the Guristas don't even get new ones? I don't see any reason for the Rogue Drones to be any different in that regard. ----------------------------------------------------------- "Violence solves all problems, no man, no problem." --Josef Stalin
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2006.10.28 15:08:00 - [40] Edited by: keepiru on 28/10/2006 15:09:08 cough serpentis, guristas, bloods cough 2 BS each :) ---------------- Please fix BC Sig/Agility!
Traxman	Posted - 2006.10.28 18:29:00 - [41] Why haul the minerals to Empire ? Why not build stuff in 0.0 ?? I bet someone are willing to pay isk for the minerals for ammo ships and meaby even capital ships production.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.28 19:19:00 - [42] Sorry, but minerals > isk in 0.0 if your alliance is any good. You can always get isk from producing stuff or selling other materials you get in 0.0. You'll have to operate as a group to do that however, which is a nice twist. What i dont like ti the availability of both ark and crock in the same regions there. If that is correct info at least. Not that it matters that much, but it breaks the balance of resource scarcity quite abruptly. I personally expected mainly crap ores to be in these regions. We don't really need more good 0.0, we need more 0.0 that is of medium worth, so people can use it as stepping stone. Good 0.0 won't allow the settling of new groups much. it'll just become a safe haven for those kicked out of their own space most recently. Old blog
Illuminaty ISS Logistics Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.28 21:24:00 - [43] Originally by: Rod Blaine We don't really need more good 0.0, we need more 0.0 that is of medium worth, so people can use it as stepping stone. QFT. It isn't the dropping of drone materials that bothers me directly. It is the way CCP has structured 0.0 to either be garbage or a gold mine. My fear is that if most 0.0 space has drones that drop nothing but the terrible drone alloys, and then has small clusters of systems that contain all the good rocks and has drones that drop all the good drone alloys, then the disparity between the good space and the bad space will be even more extreme than it is in existing space.
Vyktor Abyss The Abyss Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.29 04:14:00 - [44] The prospect of ratting for minerals I'm sure seems pretty dull to most people, but as CEO of a manufacturing corporation desperately short on minerals, to me it sounds great. However - getting established out there and holding a footing considering the distance from Empire, and the fact it will no doubt become the largest PVP playground to date beats me. The rewards of minerals alone just doesn't seem like enough for the risks. Though who really knows until it is available. Help keep our CEO fueled...Send money for beer to my Paypal account!!
IHaveTenFingers Caldari ADVANCED Combat and Engineering Combined Planetary Union	Posted - 2006.10.29 05:26:00 - [45] Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: Ronin Reborn Forgive me for a stupid question, but having never run a bunch of missions or complexes I know little about rogue drones. All the ones I've seen are small, frigates would be an applicable to compare. Are there going to be larger drone rats, ie cruiser and BS sized? Warp scrambling rats? Sounds different indeed, however if they drop alloys I could see the new regions being either extremely rich or poor. However, I DO think that a group of players with a lot of bpos (and pos(s)/outpost) could stay out there indeffinately due to it. They do have BS sizes too- "Infested" Dominixes. The rest, to date, have all been frigates though. They physically look like frigates, but many of them, like enforcer drones, have the signature radius of a cruiser or battlecruiser. test some paradise cruise missiles on them and you will see. the infested domis? they drop some REALLY good refines. ------------------------------------ My Opinions in no way reflect those of other members of ADVANCED Combat and Engineering.
Olixia Castitatis Gallente Svefn-G-Englar	Posted - 2006.10.29 16:23:00 - [46] Originally by: Deviana Sevidon I also like the idea of an area infested with Rogue Drones. My only concern is: do we get more then one Model for BS-Sized Drones? The Dominix-from-Junkyard seems to be a bit overused. I would like to see some kind of Wreck-Model from every BS ingame, for use by the Rogue Drones. Also some kind of Faction-Modules would also be nice. Like an upgraded Drone-Control Unit or rare spawns, dropping a 10run-BPC of special Drones. How would you tell the difference between a Rogue Drone Tempest/Typhoon and a normal Tempest/Typhoon? ----------------------- <Sig goes here>
Marcus Alkhaar Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.10.29 17:05:00 - [47] Edited by: Marcus Alkhaar on 29/10/2006 17:05:29 Originally by: Olixia Castitatis Originally by: Deviana Sevidon I also like the idea of an area infested with Rogue Drones. My only concern is: do we get more then one Model for BS-Sized Drones? The Dominix-from-Junkyard seems to be a bit overused. I would like to see some kind of Wreck-Model from every BS ingame, for use by the Rogue Drones. Also some kind of Faction-Modules would also be nice. Like an upgraded Drone-Control Unit or rare spawns, dropping a 10run-BPC of special Drones. How would you tell the difference between a Rogue Drone Tempest/Typhoon and a normal Tempest/Typhoon? one of those 2 groups got a higher Percent of Rust in them, than the other Originally by: darth solo I dont blame XS, tbh if i was in there shoes i wouldnt fight us either, its like bringing a caldari mountain sheep to fight a gallante war wolf(u like how i kept that in character
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2006.10.29 19:31:00 - [48] Originally by: Anndy please please please make these rogue drones give security boosts it just really wouldn't be that fair for anyone that claims the new regions not to have anyway to get security boosts while all other regions have NPCs that give security The lack of a security status bonus or a bounty on rogue drones (a low one obviosaly, related to the low risk), has always struck me as odd. The rogue drone are the only "menace" all the empires and even the bandit kigdoms will think as a enemy, as they are a danger for all the ships (with the exclusion of some particular scenario in missions). I think it can be a good improvement. And on a relate basis the missions against rogue drones and some of the others (transporting medicines against disease and similar) could give a low increase in standing with all the factions, not +x with faction A -1/2x with faction B.
AlleyKat Gallente The Avalon Foundation	Posted - 2006.10.29 22:46:00 - [49] Don't just think of these new regions as empty space with rogue drones and belts, there will be hidden elements for people to find for use in inventions...
Second Daos	Posted - 2006.10.29 23:24:00 - [50] Or maybe ultra rare trash for T2 rigs from smoking drones corpses? It may have sense...
Arushia Nova Inc.	Posted - 2006.10.30 00:34:00 - [51] Which ice types will spawn in these regions?
El'hith Gallente The Phoenix Mercenarys	Posted - 2006.10.30 01:42:00 - [52] Excuse me for been crazy but alot of people are going pah worthless drone alloys... last time i checked they refine to morphite zydrine and mega........ ~~~Check my bio in game for what me and my corp can do for you!~~~
Maverick McDougel Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.10.30 01:48:00 - [53] please make them have faction or officer spawns that drop faction drone bpc's such as mining drones or combat drones i would go into the new region for those. support BattleClinic buy gtc's from BattleClinic
Morkus Rex Amarr Danish Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2006.10.30 07:34:00 - [54] What about the "new" Drone Hive, is this something we will encounter in the new regions ? _____________________________________________ Our users will know fear and cover before our software! Ship it! Ship it and let them flee like the dogs they are!
Xelios Minmatar Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2006.10.30 09:00:00 - [55] Originally by: El'hith Excuse me for been crazy but alot of people are going pah worthless drone alloys... last time i checked they refine to morphite zydrine and mega........ One alloy refines to a bit of Morphite, a few have some Zydrine. It's only worth while because in a mission you have dozens of drones, with about 1000 m3 of alloys from a mission like Infiltrated Outposts. It depends on what kind of rogue drones are in the belts, the Drone Controllers give a fair bit of alloys but a lot of the smaller ones don't drop much at all. But I think this is good. It's nice to have a little variety in the new systems and not just the same 0.0 space but more of it. Also have to keep in mind the COSMOS areas, hidden complexes and other things that I'm sure will pop up from time to time.
Ogdru Jahad Amarr	Posted - 2006.10.30 09:35:00 - [56] Originally by: Xelios Originally by: El'hith Excuse me for been crazy but alot of people are going pah worthless drone alloys... last time i checked they refine to morphite zydrine and mega........ One alloy refines to a bit of Morphite, a few have some Zydrine. It's only worth while because in a mission you have dozens of drones, with about 1000 m3 of alloys from a mission like Infiltrated Outposts. It depends on what kind of rogue drones are in the belts, the Drone Controllers give a fair bit of alloys but a lot of the smaller ones don't drop much at all. But I think this is good. It's nice to have a little variety in the new systems and not just the same 0.0 space but more of it. Also have to keep in mind the COSMOS areas, hidden complexes and other things that I'm sure will pop up from time to time. -

TomB	Posted - 2006.10.30 10:19:00 - [57] Rogue Drones are by design not supposed to have bounties since they ain't pilots wanted by CONCORD. To counter the problem of them not being as profitable we have made them special with salvaging. This might not suit you as an npc pirate hunter, but others will look at this area as a gold mine for the rig business. TomB Lead Designer EVE Online .

Bermag Point-Zero Ratel Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.30 11:49:00 - [58] I think most users value getting modules they can use to be more valuable. But getting stuff for riggs might be interesting. But getting alloys for loot might become a logistical nightmare in regions which don't have stations. Can't refine them in a POS and they take more space than loot (compared to their mineral value at least for the lower end alloys). It will probably not be that interesting to go out and do "ninja-ratting" in those regions since you will only get the rewards if you succesfully transport the stuff out.
ToxicAid Minmatar Sensus Numinis Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2006.10.30 12:19:00 - [59] Quote: Can't refine them in a POS You can refine the alloys in a POS, thats new in Kali ------------------------------------------------------ Non mortem timemus, sed cogitationem mortis _______________ Memento mori.
Jin Loe	Posted - 2006.10.30 12:29:00 - [60] Edited by: Jin Loe on 30/10/2006 12:29:45 I like Alloys Linkage
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries	Posted - 2006.10.30 12:30:00 - [61] Originally by: Bermag I think most users value getting modules they can use to be more valuable. But getting stuff for riggs might be interesting. But getting alloys for loot might become a logistical nightmare in regions which don't have stations. Can't refine them in a POS and they take more space than loot (compared to their mineral value at least for the lower end alloys). It will probably not be that interesting to go out and do "ninja-ratting" in those regions since you will only get the rewards if you succesfully transport the stuff out. You are assuming players wont just build stations? I hear that drone droppings will be refinable in POS refiners now- any half decent corp can afford to put up a refining POS. Also: TomB's alive?! Woo! -----------------------------------------------
Harisdrop Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.10.30 16:35:00 - [62] If you dont have pirates in non npc regions. Why are there pirates in the current regions? Please remove the npc pirates from regions that are not controled by NPC. Gurista pilots should only be in Venal 0.0 the rest non-npc-Sov 0.0 should be Rogue Drones thru out EVE. Originally by: Tuxford .....stuff... Btw I did mess a bit with tech 2 ammo, I'll post a bit about that later.
Dread Lord Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2006.10.30 22:37:00 - [63] i hope they will make new drones for this and that the icons will reflect the sig radius (not just frigs and bs crosses) maby we will see drone plexes that will go higher that 6/10 Please resize your signature to the limits specified in the forum rules, thanks. -wystler ([email protected])
Thor Xian Vertigo One	Posted - 2006.10.31 00:04:00 - [64] The NPC aspect of Eve needs a complete overhaul. Pirates factions should be much less widespread, and NPC stations should be much less common even in high sec. Space is big, and for the most part empty. Resources are good, but NPCs are what keeps inflation going in Eve. ~Thor Xian, Material Defender
Xornicon Altair Caldari Galactic Express The Guardian Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.31 00:28:00 - [65] Originally by: Arushia Which ice types will spawn in these regions? Please don't make the nice lady have to repeat herself. Someone please answer this question. Even I want to know the answer to this. Galactic Express is Recruiting!
Meeko Gloom Species 5618 Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.31 03:07:00 - [66] Originally by: Xornicon Altair Originally by: Arushia Which ice types will spawn in these regions? Please don't make the nice lady have to repeat herself. Someone please answer this question. Even I want to know the answer to this. I was just about to ask that, why not each race get 2 regions... 8/4 = 2 -------------------------- Guns dont Kill People Drones Do
Nyack GREY COUNCIL	Posted - 2006.10.31 12:39:00 - [67] not sure if i got it right but arnt the new regions called cosmos regions aswell? that you will only find the new stuff to build the best boosters in the new regions? that emplies that there will be alot of agents, complexes etc. plenty do do for the old school npc:ers.. addign both complexes and belts rats would make the region to wealthy i guess.. and with all those complex and cosmos whoring i guess mining will be abit risky giving rogue drones a good mineral source instead of mining to teh alliances living there..
Za Po Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.31 14:29:00 - [68] A nice idea would be to make a drone's red cross reflect its signature radius. As things stand now, one has to memorize the various types of drones to figure out what weapons are better, which is annoying and doesn't really makes too much sense. It would also help if the size of their models reflected their sig radius as well...
Helison Gallente Times of Ancar THE R0NIN	Posted - 2006.10.31 22:04:00 - [69] Originally by: Nyack not sure if i got it right but arnt the new regions called cosmos regions aswell? that you will only find the new stuff to build the best boosters in the new regions? that emplies that there will be alot of agents, complexes etc. plenty do do for the old school npc:ers.. addign both complexes and belts rats would make the region to wealthy i guess.. and with all those complex and cosmos whoring i guess mining will be abit risky giving rogue drones a good mineral source instead of mining to teh alliances living there.. No, the Cosmos constellations will not be in the new regions, but in the old 0.0 regions.
Bozl1n Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.11.01 07:35:00 - [70] Originally by: Illuminaty So let me get this straight: -Rouge Drones (that do all 4 types of damage) -No bounties -No Modules, much less named modules -No Sec Status -No faction standings -No officer/faction modules So all you get from ratting is a cargohold full of stuff that has no other use than to refine to minerals. I'm wondering if they are going to continue with the 90% of 0.0 is trash, and 10% is over the top, wealth distribution and make it basically 100% pointless to rat in anything other than -1.0 systems because all you'll end up with is a cargohold full of compounds that give you trit with some pyre mixed in. At least make them drop BPCs for named modules or _something_. I guess the bright side is that since ISS lives in space that nobody else wants, we might get 8 regions to set outposts up in. I mean, yea, I've got a bit of sarcasm here, but this no bounty, no module thing just isn't striking me as a good idea at all. There are 25 -1.0 systems in eve, those 25 will remain i think as they are, which are already within the current map. This was due to the map originaly being generated randomly. Back in gemini the -1.0 - 0.0 sec status had MASSIVE impact on what that system contained, mainly because of the rat spawn that was possable, in that in the -1.0s the top spawn of 3 x 50k rats was possable and it would also double and triple spawn sometimes. Yes there was always good ore in those systems to, but there also was good ore in parts of fountain that were around -0.4 or above. These days i honestly cant see much difference in the way the spawns roll out when in a -1.0 or a 0.0, they certainly have little bearing on ore now as (at least) 2 of the old -1s now dont even contain high end ore. Soverignty seems to have far more effect on the chances of finding officers etc True sec status is a bit of a myth these days i think, back in the day it did mean sommin, now????
Kunming Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.01 22:11:00 - [71] The rogue drone idea and compunds only loot is one of the better ideas CCP has put forward to this day. It is perfect for some corps that are self sufficient and build their own stuff while it will be a pain for others to set a foot in the region which has no supply than the own you generate... including safety Hardcore 0.0 space 4TW thank you CCP :hugs:
Zingu Gallente Crafty Productions Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2006.11.02 14:32:00 - [72] Isn't the minerals from a lone drone comander dominix worth close to two millions if refined and take up around 60-70m^3?
Alpine 69 Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.11.02 16:31:00 - [73] drone domi's are worth 4m+ easily http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a134/undergrounder69/siggieartv15.jpg Limits for signatures are 400x120 pixels and 24,000 bytes. Please fix your signature. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip mods feel free to have random discussions in my sig :P
Svavz Gallente Random Execution Party	Posted - 2006.11.02 18:04:00 - [74] cmon itl be like fun mining Biggest black and death metal fan in iceland
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries	Posted - 2006.11.03 01:30:00 - [75] Edited by: Patch86 on 03/11/2006 01:30:10 Originally by: Kunming The rogue drone idea and compunds only loot is one of the better ideas CCP has put forward to this day. It is perfect for some corps that are self sufficient and build their own stuff while it will be a pain for others to set a foot in the region which has no supply than the own you generate... including safety Hardcore 0.0 space 4TW thank you CCP :hugs: Best thing about this? Rogue Drones are the Great Self-Replicating Menice (Replicators, Mantids, Nano-Bots, [insert every grey-goo theory invented here]).From all the hype they get, theres no reason they couldn't "over-run" more regions, getting rid of the masses of bounty'd pirates that so feed inflation. My vision of EVE would be a universe dominated by the "wild animals" taht are rogue drones, with the various human strongholds dominated by the Empires and pirate factions. A boy can dream -----------------------------------------------
Securion Wolfheart Caldari Semper Fidelis Industries	Posted - 2006.11.03 13:05:00 - [76] I want to see rogue drones invade and destroy Jita. Like a drone-Jihad or something. Please? -----====----- Whether we bring our enemies to justice or bring justice to our enemies, justice will be done.
Vasiliyan PAX Interstellar Services	Posted - 2006.11.03 15:41:00 - [77] Can anyone confirm that the drone droppings will be refinable/usable at a POS?
Rafein Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.11.03 20:52:00 - [78] Originally by: Vasiliyan Can anyone confirm that the drone droppings will be refinable/usable at a POS? You mean, other than the dev that posted earlier??? All I can say is wow, whoever controls this space will be a force. Being able to create and endless supply of ships without mining. And all you gotta do is drag the Zyd/Mega to Empire to sell for isk, and just need a Carrier for quick jump, as Zyd/Mega is very high on value per M3 Though i wonder if this will cause all mineral prices to crash again.
mallina Caldari DeStInY.	Posted - 2006.11.04 20:12:00 - [79] I welcome npcs that drop large quantities of compounds and nothing more, make people work for their isk so long as the asteroids have bounties ----------- Turbulance
Daelin Blackleaf	Posted - 2006.11.05 23:59:00 - [80] Mallina you made me choke on my coffee I love this idea, instead of boring, inflation inducing bounties and the oft considered essential named modules, residents will get minerals and good salvage. A different economy will grow here and that can only be good for EVE at large. If it works well Id expect similar changes or other kinds of divergence from the norm in both new and old regions. Love the idea of seeing residents here directly trading high quality rigs for named modules from other regions residents. Definite progress, more variety, and possibly more interaction between alliances other than NAPs and warfare.
Sir Bart	Posted - 2006.11.06 07:27:00 - [81] I think no bounties are a great idea. Basically this space is going to be the hardcore 0.0.... I mean, you need to work as a corp to get isk (hop capitals to empire to sell mins / plush). Manufacture all modules and distribute them to members and purchase what you can't build. I can't wait to see what alliance is going to move in there... and what alliance is waiting for someone else to move in and make some outposts so they can invade and not have to make the outposts themselves. It's gonna be awsome, I sure hope my corp takes part. So long as we have a corp with t2 long range guns in the alliance, I'll have a field day. As for not getting those sec boosts... well, that's been an uphill battle anyways. -Bart
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.06 11:51:00 - [82] I wouldn't mind seeing rogue drones replace current pirate NPC's in all non Pirate-faction home regions and other regions that sport NPC stations. Old blog
Mesuno	Posted - 2006.11.06 12:14:00 - [83] Am I correct in thinking that the new regions have no stations? I wonder how long it will be before ISS get a public outpost out there? Refinery taxes alone would give an astronomical yield with every man and his dog melting down every thing he kills for minerals. That and it would be the sole market point - it would turn into a real hub.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2006.11.06 18:09:00 - [84] Liking the novel approach. With different competing hives sporting their own tactics the regions would be even more colorful. Add a new look to the POS to make it easy on the eye and I'm there zapping some tachyon mining lasers.
Kryse Caldari Martial Mercantile	Posted - 2006.11.06 19:23:00 - [85] Oh, to those saying drones need to be given accurate icons to indicate cruiser and battle cruiser sized ships, they have them now - just went for a spin in the new region. I'll try to post a screenie a little later.
Attak Trioptimum FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.06 21:40:00 - [86] Is there any chance these new regions are going to be moved elsewhere before release? It seems a bit silly that they're being left where they were for the entire game, what with being all smushed together and having one empire region for everyone who wants to enter them. I absolutely love the systems, the NPCs ect, but they way they're distributed atm just seems a little sloppy.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.07 11:38:00 - [87] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 07/11/2006 11:40:56 they wont move. But note that there are many entrances, and not jsut from one empire region either. But at least that side of empire might get some more attention in future, if massive amounts of minerals make it onto the market from the new 0.0 regions. Personally i'd love ntohing more then see caldari space wither away and die btw, about npc's. I always wondered why blood raiders have the tracking disruption effect and not the nosferatu effect like they should have according to CCP. That gonna get fixed at any time ? Old blog
Futher Bezluden Minmatar Red Dwarf Mining Corps Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.11.07 18:32:00 - [88] What would have been nice, is if CCP had spent time separating the new regions, putting them around the outside of current 0.0/lowsec regions instead of leaving them as one gigantic clump with some seriously stupid looking access points. Tenal/Venal highway straight through Jove space??? Please, consider splitting these 8 new regions and relocating them evenly throughout eve with decent 0.0/lowsec access points where it permits. You want alliances fighting over resources, but clumped it all together so far from the major alliances that it'll cause a mass migration and blog the area down with lag so thick a navy Abaddon wouldn't be able to cut through it. Having low-sec access points from only Metro and Molden is lame. Stick a few of the new regions between/around the following to disperse them a bit for everyone. Fountain/Delve/Aridia Geminate/GW/Molden & Metro Querious/Stain/Khanid Catch/Providence/Tash Murkon Tribute/Venal Deklein/Venal/Branch Lonetrek/Cloud Ring/Placid Solitude/Fountain/Aridia Please, unclump "01" space, this isn't the matrix. The Machines don't get their own empire. THUKKER -Be Paranoid
Attak Trioptimum FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.07 22:39:00 - [89] Originally by: Futher Bezluden What would have been nice, is if CCP had spent time separating the new regions, putting them around the outside of current 0.0/lowsec regions instead of leaving them as one gigantic clump with some seriously stupid looking access points. Tenal/Venal highway straight through Jove space??? Please, consider splitting these 8 new regions and relocating them evenly throughout eve with decent 0.0/lowsec access points where it permits. You want alliances fighting over resources, but clumped it all together so far from the major alliances that it'll cause a mass migration and blog the area down with lag so thick a navy Abaddon wouldn't be able to cut through it. Having low-sec access points from only Metro and Molden is lame. Stick a few of the new regions between/around the following to disperse them a bit for everyone. Fountain/Delve/Aridia Geminate/GW/Molden & Metro Querious/Stain/Khanid Catch/Providence/Tash Murkon Tribute/Venal Deklein/Venal/Branch Lonetrek/Cloud Ring/Placid Solitude/Fountain/Aridia Please, unclump "01" space, this isn't the matrix. The Machines don't get their own empire. Exactly! It looks sloppy, the regional entrances from the north are ridiculous, and the entrances from empire are going to be stupidly crowded. Why not spread the regions out a little? What harm would it do? As they are, only a few alliances will have a reliable chance of exploiting them, and %90 of EVE is going to be left fighting over chokepoints. At the very least, put the new regions in a managable arrangement. If you want one to link to Tenal, put it close to Tenal. If you want 5 entrances around Cache (total BS btw), arrange the regions around Cache. Please, even out the new regions. It needs to be done before release, because once they're out there, there's simply no way they're going anywhere.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.07 23:24:00 - [90] Handy link from General Discussion. -----------------------------------------------
Mallick Northern Intelligence SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.08 23:33:00 - [91] Currently officer spawns ONLY spawns in the factions home region e.g. Stain, Venal, Fountain and Curse. In the non-home regions only Commander spawns spawns. But what I find VERY annoying is that in Fountain, there is only about 4 stations, and the rest of Fountain is free from Serpentis sovereignity. BUT, in Great Wildlands, there is 3 stations, BUT the whole ******* region is under the sovreignity of Thukker Tribe. It just does not make any sense at all! Support POS Overhaul - Read it NOW!
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.09 01:13:00 - [92] Originally by: Mallick Currently officer spawns ONLY spawns in the factions home region e.g. Stain, Venal, Fountain and Curse. In the non-home regions only Commander spawns spawns. But what I find VERY annoying is that in Fountain, there is only about 4 stations, and the rest of Fountain is free from Serpentis sovereignity. BUT, in Great Wildlands, there is 3 stations, BUT the whole ******* region is under the sovreignity of Thukker Tribe. It just does not make any sense at all! Well if I was to try to fluff up a reason for you: Thukker tribe are meant to be nomadic. Their lack of permanent bases (stations) cannot be taken as an accurate measure of how much of the space they "use" and so claim as their territory. Serpentis, on the other hand, is a drugs cartel- they have no reason to have much presence outised of the space they use for their factories / bases. Doesn't mean its not silly though -----------------------------------------------
Vyktor Abyss The Abyss Corporation	Posted - 2006.11.09 01:42:00 - [93] Edited by: Vyktor Abyss on 09/11/2006 01:47:17 Well...It is that time of the evening where the madness takes over me. (Pub closing time) I'm going to be one of the first CEOs to declare that my corp will be doing our jolly best to do the land grab (Similar to Cruise and Kidman in Far & Away) and put a POS up in CUT-0V as soon as possible! HURRAH!! The way I see it we have a 95% chance of losing the tower in a gatecamp en route...A 4% chance we make it and anchor a tower only to find it blown up the same day as Dread target practise...And a 1% chance of it staying up longer than that only to find we've run out of fuels within a week!! Let the madness begin!! Anyone else going to make the mad dash?...No? -Then you got a few cloaking Itty 5's we can borrow? Me love you long time... - Ideas are my business...maybe thats why I'm always broke! Science Ships
Jdestars Stars Research systems Incorporation	Posted - 2006.11.09 12:55:00 - [94] I shall like to settle down also but the small corpo shall not review made the claimer like the BOysBand Maybe that an new an alliance of tiny Corpo R&D could be born
Kaaii Caldari Equilibrium LLC United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2006.11.11 14:59:00 - [95] Ive been to the new regions and fin myself wondering.. What will become of them. Given that there are no named spawns, no stations, no bounties, no loot. Offset by decent ores, alloys, drones dropping invention componets (not that you can't get them elsewhere) The question comes to mind, what will the big bot alliances do? Will they go in and setup there, leaving behind the old regions? Will they try to hold both? Test the waters but then leave? And why are 500+ solar systems entered by 3 chokepoints? Will anyone even risk trying to go, knowing what its like in n-rael, EC and the like? Will RA take the candy they are given, (for being such upstanding players ) bringing along the goons for sword fodder, or will they stay in cache, and raid the new corps trying to set up there? (given that they are so close to controlling it out of the box ) What of the "accross the universe" alliances, will they pick up and move 60 jumps, having no access to new regions otherise? Will the vaccumun be filled? ============ It seems to me that while its great adding the new content, regions that are "different", it will not change a great deal in the long run. Huge alliances may well use this new ground just to ease their growing pains. I would like to see more entry points though. Id like to see more of a spread for all alliances to pick from, not just one side of the map. Bob/ASCN out west, Iron and whoever in the north, the south.. Just seems a little one sided atm. Time will tell I guess.. Trading 101
JustBlaze	Posted - 2006.11.12 00:55:00 - [96] my good god the mining there will be INSAIN!
Funkcikle Gallente The Funkstars Guild	Posted - 2006.11.12 02:13:00 - [97] MMmmmMmm drones, whole systems of sweet nourishing drones CCP make me a cal boat with 8 turrets, n then make me sum space with my favourate Npcs.. I've only got one wish left, so I guess this one has to be REALLY good Gr0ovey
Harisdrop Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.14 14:58:00 - [98] I always wondered why EVE could not be a sphere galaxy and not a flat galaxy. Where jump gates would be connected across the galaxy and not just around. They placed more gates around the galaxy the last major patch. I hope the provide more across behind gates now at least. In the sphere idea I have you would have 4 inner areas that each quarter would have a couple systems between each where there is 0.1-0.4 systems. Friendlies would have green space. In the sphere idea 0.0 would have no restraint from any region. At least 1 connection between every region and its not necessary at the edge. Originally by: Dwight Hammerhead . Just because Kali is already in testing. If CCP were actually concerned about what ppl think they would of opened it up for discussion.
Joerd Toastius Octavian Vanguard	Posted - 2006.11.16 10:17:00 - [99] Originally by: Harisdrop I always wondered why EVE could not be a sphere galaxy and not a flat galaxy. It'd make the map flat-out impossible to use, for one thing. Turn the existing map end-on and try navigating through Domain or somewhere else in the middle.
Uggster Caldari Never'where	Posted - 2006.11.17 11:43:00 - [100] Originally by: Vyktor Abyss Edited by: Vyktor Abyss on 09/11/2006 01:47:17 Well...It is that time of the evening where the madness takes over me. (Pub closing time) I'm going to be one of the first CEOs to declare that my corp will be doing our jolly best to do the land grab (Similar to Cruise and Kidman in Far & Away) and put a POS up in CUT-0V as soon as possible! HURRAH!! The way I see it we have a 95% chance of losing the tower in a gatecamp en route...A 4% chance we make it and anchor a tower only to find it blown up the same day as Dread target practise...And a 1% chance of it staying up longer than that only to find we've run out of fuels within a week!! Let the madness begin!! Anyone else going to make the mad dash?...No? -Then you got a few cloaking Itty 5's we can borrow? Me love you long time... Best post on the whole subject of the new regions Seriously, I think the whole No Bounties and more Minerals is a good thing, It means that those who want to LIVE in that part of space can achive a good lvl of self suficency quickly and those that come there to try and find a "Thormagosmic Multi spectral warp drive overhauler" can stay in curse or Venal or wherever. _______________________________________________ Sig removed as inappropriate- Tirg Story of my life that one :(
Crellion Art of War Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.19 15:59:00 - [101] Edited by: Crellion on 19/11/2006 15:59:19 Originally by: Uggster Originally by: Vyktor Abyss Edited by: Vyktor Abyss on 09/11/2006 01:47:17 Well...It is that time of the evening where the madness takes over me. (Pub closing time) I'm going to be one of the first CEOs to declare that my corp will be doing our jolly best to do the land grab (Similar to Cruise and Kidman in Far & Away) and put a POS up in CUT-0V as soon as possible! HURRAH!! The way I see it we have a 95% chance of losing the tower in a gatecamp en route...A 4% chance we make it and anchor a tower only to find it blown up the same day as Dread target practise...And a 1% chance of it staying up longer than that only to find we've run out of fuels within a week!! Let the madness begin!! Anyone else going to make the mad dash?...No? -Then you got a few cloaking Itty 5's we can borrow? Me love you long time... Best post on the whole subject of the new regions Seriously, I think the whole No Bounties and more Minerals is a good thing, It means that those who want to LIVE in that part of space can achive a good lvl of self suficency quickly and those that come there to try and find a "Thormagosmic Multi spectral warp drive overhauler" can stay in curse or Venal or wherever. Self sufficiency? With a full set of all tech II modules BPOs perhaps. If not will be funny flying around in ships with self-sufficient tech I mods... unless if Invention works out as a lot more practical than it now seems... Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim.
Ilmonstre Minmatar A.W.M	Posted - 2006.11.20 22:45:00 - [102] 1 good thing about this is you wont get those noobcorp pilots that wanna farm the isk since they will need to collect all to refine if they wanna see anny isk.
Eveanne Gallente Sperm Trumpet Industries	Posted - 2006.11.22 05:35:00 - [103] Can someone point me at where I can see the descriptions/maps/links for the new regions pls? 10q x E
ArmagedonLT Amarr LDK	Posted - 2006.11.22 12:16:00 - [104] Originally by: Mallick Currently officer spawns ONLY spawns in the factions home region e.g. Stain, Venal, Fountain and Curse. In the non-home regions only Commander spawns spawns. But what I find VERY annoying is that in Fountain, there is only about 4 stations, and the rest of Fountain is free from Serpentis sovereignity. BUT, in Great Wildlands, there is 3 stations, BUT the whole ******* region is under the sovreignity of Thukker Tribe. It just does not make any sense at all! Officers can spawn everywhere. eg. I`ve found thon officer in JU- system (deklein region) which isnt npc region
The Armin Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.11.22 15:33:00 - [105] I can confirm that a highend Guristas officer has spawned in Tribute as well.
Uggster Caldari Never'where	Posted - 2006.11.22 15:36:00 - [106] Originally by: Crellion Self sufficiency? With a full set of all tech II modules BPOs perhaps. If not will be funny flying around in ships with self-sufficient tech I mods... unless if Invention works out as a lot more practical than it now seems... I had not given a second thought to T2 mods or ships but if you find that you really need them then a carrier can jump in all the T2 mods (and a fair number of T2 frigs) you could use and lose. And what group/corp/alliance that is serious about 0.0 living these days does not haveaccess to at least 1 carrier ? _______________________________________________ Sig removed as inappropriate- Tirg Story of my life that one :(
Lenaria Caldari Draconis Navitas Aeterna	Posted - 2006.11.22 17:26:00 - [107] Edited by: Lenaria on 22/11/2006 17:28:13 Originally by: Harisdrop I always wondered why EVE could not be a sphere galaxy and not a flat galaxy. Where jump gates would be connected across the galaxy and not just around. They placed more gates around the galaxy the last major patch. I hope the provide more across behind gates now at least. In the sphere idea I have you would have 4 inner areas that each quarter would have a couple systems between each where there is 0.1-0.4 systems. Friendlies would have green space. In the sphere idea 0.0 would have no restraint from any region. At least 1 connection between every region and its not necessary at the edge. There are 2 reasons for flat galaxies: 1. Its how its mostly been in RL (thought not always) 2. Much more important: It would be nightmare to navigate in sphere galaxy. The PC display is 2-D and even paning and turning doesnt help enouth. 3. The hammer: you dont need all that of you want more choke points. Nothing in game mechanic prevents to add 10x as much choke points right now.
Kunming Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.23 21:17:00 - [108] Originally by: Lenaria Edited by: Lenaria on 22/11/2006 17:28:13 Originally by: Harisdrop I always wondered why EVE could not be a sphere galaxy and not a flat galaxy. Where jump gates would be connected across the galaxy and not just around. They placed more gates around the galaxy the last major patch. I hope the provide more across behind gates now at least. In the sphere idea I have you would have 4 inner areas that each quarter would have a couple systems between each where there is 0.1-0.4 systems. Friendlies would have green space. In the sphere idea 0.0 would have no restraint from any region. At least 1 connection between every region and its not necessary at the edge. There are 2 reasons for flat galaxies: 1. Its how its mostly been in RL (thought not always) 2. Much more important: It would be nightmare to navigate in sphere galaxy. The PC display is 2-D and even paning and turning doesnt help enouth. 3. The hammer: you dont need all that of you want more choke points. Nothing in game mechanic prevents to add 10x as much choke points right now. Considering the new map is a joke and a pain-ita you are right, but nothing prevents CCP from designing something useful next time and add an option to fade out certain regions you dont want to see... Quote: READ THIS NEXT PART CAREFULLY AS IT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND POSTING A REPLY WITHOUT READING IT MAY RESULT IN YOU LOOKING STUPID.
Beringe Caldari Raptus Regaliter	Posted - 2006.11.24 20:23:00 - [109] I sort of like this. It makes the new regions less likely to be immediately seized by established alliances, and new blood gets a chance to move in and start building infrastructure. I bet the ISS could benefit a ton by building a trading post or two there. ------------------------------------------- "Sarcasm and irony are not to be used by the uninitiated." --Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles--
Electric Cucumber Amarr coracao ardente Sani Khal'Vecna	Posted - 2006.11.24 21:56:00 - [110] Originally by: Father Weebles Edited by: Father Weebles on 28/10/2006 00:03:10 id rather make iskies and get sec increases rather than glorified mining then don't rat in the new regions, simple isn't it?
Jragar	Posted - 2006.11.25 15:16:00 - [111] Just out of interest, have any of you who are moaning been to a drone plex? the ships there drop stuff for T2 production, morphite etc. also, we arent talking lv2 mission drops, the drops will be substantially better. IMHO it will be better to see something new rather than more of the same.
Azuse	Posted - 2006.11.27 15:10:00 - [112] Certainly an interesting twist, one which alot of ppl may be looking at the wrong way. The usual 0.0 problem is getting modules back to empire, conversly getting materials out is an equal pain, 0.0 mining too.say you wanted toi build something substansial, like say a station, gathering the materials would be a whole lot easier, so would production if one was constructed...
Doomed Predator The Phoenix Rising Distant Star Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.27 16:02:00 - [113] One question,are these regions gona have proper names or will they remain this number crap? --------------------------------------------- The first mod to edit my sig gets a keg of beer(2 pink kegs if its done by a female) I don't like beer - Serathu Sera often mods in a dress, does that mean I can have his 2 kegs? - Cortes
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.27 19:18:00 - [114] Originally by: Doomed Predator One question,are these regions gona have proper names or will they remain this number crap? Last I heard, they're geting new names. -----------------------------------------------

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