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Omeega
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.10.28 22:16:00 -
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We were already fighting AXE before BOB attacked ASCN.
We just made it official on the rums to make the drama happen. (and to get war decced by an alt corp).
But it's a nice post SATAN.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Karina Harington
Port Royal Independent Kontractors
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.10.28 22:17:00 -
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Edited by: Karina Harington on 28/10/2006 22:18:40
 Originally by: SATAN
The fact is they are putting up a fight,
And losing record numbers.
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last time I checked they are the only alliance ever at war with bob to last this long. Not to mention actualy take a station off BoB even if for a short time.
They took a station of Xelas at the cost of a large number of dreads. Not the best tactical decision of all time.
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I dont know if you were in IRON when BoB attacked your space, but it was not pretty, ended very fast with your alliance running south for the winter, and your closest ally disbanding.
I wasn't in IRON, no, but wasn't the end result G/TRUST effectively merging and then proceding to kick out all hostiles in the north? Wow, what an awful outcome!
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PS. BoB is the bandwagon and dont forget it, while their numbers are small compared to ASCN they are composed of hardened fighters many of which use to hate everything about BoB. But were basicly beat down by the bandwagon and forced on board. BoB will continue to take your strong fighters/leaders every time they come and take your region it is their favorite form of recruitment.
LOL, nobody's forced on board. Yes, BoB has a very effective fighting force, but that's because they don't let every Tom, **** and Harry on board.
In the end, you're not trotting off to fight BoB, so your words ring a bit hollow to me.
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Xrak
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.28 22:17:00 -
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Edited by: Xrak on 28/10/2006 22:17:41
Originally by: SATAN
The fact is they are putting up a fight, last time I checked they are the only alliance ever at war with bob to last this long. Not to mention actualy take a station off BoB even if for a short time.
I dont know if you were in IRON when BoB attacked your space, but it was not pretty, ended very fast with your alliance running south for the winter, and your closest ally disbanding.
PS. BoB is the bandwagon and dont forget it, while their numbers are small compared to ASCN they are composed of hardened fighters many of which use to hate everything about BoB. But were basicly beat down by the bandwagon and forced on board. BoB will continue to take your strong fighters/leaders every time they come and take your region it is their favorite form of recruitment.
Lol, beat down by the bandwagon and forced on board? Yea, thats right.
The ceo's and/or directors see someone they want, and they call dibs on them. Which ever corp says they want them first evemail spams them, and threatens to attack them irl if they dont join.
Once they are so scared that they join up, they begin to get assimlated into the BoB machine. Forced to listen to BoB propaganda on TS and read long forum posts on how to be great forum warriors. A few more "secret" steps involving Siddy, Tamora and some others 'tools' and the work is complete.
Thank fully I was able to resist all the brainwashing and can tell the truth about this.
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Darko1107
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.10.28 22:23:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN
Originally by: Karina Harington
Edited by: Karina Harington on 28/10/2006 21:50:51
Originally by: Butter Dog
Then you are short sighted. ASCN are no threat to you.
Meh, at least BoB bring a worthwhile fight. In the end, it's not our fault ASCN are fish in a barrel. With the numbers they have, they really should be able to put up a better fight.
The fact is they are putting up a fight, last time I checked they are the only alliance ever at war with bob to last this long. Not to mention actualy take a station off BoB even if for a short time.
I dont know if you were in IRON when BoB attacked your space, but it was not pretty, ended very fast with your alliance running south for the winter, and your closest ally disbanding.
PS. BoB is the bandwagon and dont forget it, while their numbers are small compared to ASCN they are composed of hardened fighters many of which use to hate everything about BoB. But were basicly beat down by the bandwagon and forced on board. BoB will continue to take your strong fighters/leaders every time they come and take your region it is their favorite form of recruitment.
Erm, no. BoB attack dek taking JU, IRON then came back with G etc and kicked them out/they left (really dont care which it was). Then however many months later, BoB then attacked the EC outpost (Not iron space). Prior to that IRON were already breaking apart, the taking of EC didnt change that, afterall, why would we care about an outpost that wasnt even ours, admitedly, we tried to defend it and failed. But i knew BoB was never guna take it, and then keep it.
If IRON hadnt of gone south, if it hadnt of kicked out those corps, if it hadnt have left dek for a while. It would not be here today.
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Zak Kingsman
A.W.M
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Posted - 2006.10.28 22:23:00 -
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Originally by: NeoTech
Can someone explain why ASCN is so hated?
I think you're making a mistake assuming that pvp requires some sort of ill will. Just because you are getting attacked doesn't mean the attackers hate you.
Why did BoB attack you? You're the biggest kid on the block, the most likely to be able to put up a fight for a long time, and fighting is fun. So they attacked you. Forum drama can be fun too. Play the game, enjoy it, ***** up the forums, enjoy it the drama, play the game to its fullest. Just remember it IS a game and the intrigue/drama/fighting/industrial aspects of it are all what make it such a great and enthralling game.
The 0.0 game is the only part that brings all these aspects together and while up until now your alliance as a whole has focused mainly on one portion of the 0.0 game (industrial). Its time to embrace the rest of it for what it is and have fun with it. I really hope you do, and I'm sure BoB really hopes you do too. Because as soon as you do you will truly be a force to reckon with. That in turn will give BoB the good fights they're looking for.
The absolute worst thing you can do is take it personally. If you do, stress will build up and the alliance will fail.
Good luck, have fun, touch gloves and come out fighting.
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Kadriel
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.10.28 22:25:00 -
[96]
Originally by: NeoTech
Edited by: NeoTech on 28/10/2006 21:08:08
And about the E3 system.. well, AAA and RA were the one attacking us. Not the other way around.
:D
oh contrare, AXE attacked COL in E3 when you were still blue to us. Then ASCN joined you. We ended up fighting you alone until RAT and SE(among others) joined us. -A- started after that. You guys brought this on yourselves. Ill be glad to see the "mighty" ASCN/AXE fall to our much smaller numbers. Enjoy what systems you have, b/c you wont have them much longer.
We are the Collective. We are as one. Protection and prosperity
through assistance and assimilation.
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Prez21
coracao ardente
Sani Khal'Vecna
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Posted - 2006.10.28 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Most people in eve would rather win than have a good fight 
QFT, theres too many ppl out there looking for cheap easy kills than actualy looking for good fights, thats why pvp in eve is`currently on a downward spiral
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XoPhyte
Out Siders
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.28 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Most people in eve would rather win than have a good fight
I do believe I may have found a new sig! Thanks 
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Most people in eve would rather win than have a good fight
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Galimiy Portret
Eye of God
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.28 22:34:00 -
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Clearly the best thread in this forum for a while. I set it to +7.
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Evil Thug
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.10.28 22:37:00 -
[100]
Originally by: NeoTech
And about the E3 system.. well, AAA and RA were the one attacking us. Not the other way around.
Your leadership told you so ? AXE wanted to add e3-sdz complex to their possesion. They asked ASCN for help. ASCN send raiding groups into it, that didn`t help, we still ran plex 95% of time. Then ASCN + AXE started to try to kill our POSes in e3. Lost 9 capital ships, 3 freighters and more than 300 battleships over 3 weeks, then decided to go back.
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RaptorX
Eve Defence Force
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.28 22:50:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Karina Harington
They took a station of Xelas at the cost of a large number of dreads. Not the best tactical decision of all time.
I think you need to do your homework.
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Kishti
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Posted - 2006.10.28 22:52:00 -
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I think that the essence of the post, so far unstated is this: Do you guys really want a superpower in the game?
Look at the RL political situation in the world right now. Right now we have one superpower in the world, America. I can't speak for everyone of course, but I would be comfortable saying that a good many of the world's citizens have some sort of dislike of America atm. I would also feel comfortable going one step further to say that this dislike probably stems from 2 things:
1. American politicans are arrogant.
2. American politicans/businessmen use money and military might to coerce/force everyone else in the world to cede advantage to America at their own detriment.
Do we/you want this in Eve? What are possible outcomes of this war?
IMHO, if ASCN wins the war they will all shout "Hooray, LONG live ASCN, we win because we believe in what we have built together." They will then proceed to F*** off back to their space to continue the thing they really care about; building their own empire in their section of space. To be sure, they will be involved in future wars/battles/conflicts/politics. For the most part though, ASCN will worry about themselves and their empire. The ones who want to carebear will carebear, and the ones who want to fight will fight.
IMHO, if BoB wins the war, they will all shout "RAWR, we told you going into this we had the biggest E-Peen and now we have proved it!!!11! You will now all bow down before us and acknowledge us as the supreme beings of the game and tremble before us." They will go around unchallenged, imposing their will and their version of the game on everyone they feel like imposing on. They will be the America of the game.
IMHO this is the question being posed right now. Do we want one superpower in the game that is going to dominate the course of the game, or would it be better to have many smaller factions, all vying for power/territory/political clout?
Since this war has begun, I have been reading the forums regularly. The tone of the discussion of the ASCN vs. BoB war leads me to my next question: Who wants to rack up a few killmails that have BoB as the victims? With all the "Rawr, tremble before us" posts of late, wouldn't it be gratifying to have some good killmails to show your grandchildren some day? "Look sonny, this is from the great war of '06 when me and 1777dude, Roxxorz and gang went and pwned BoB."
Right now BoB is concentrated on one front, the one with ASCN. This will leave them vulnerable in much of their space.
Form up a gang, go cause some trouble. Rack up some killmails and make some good money off of the sweet loot that the Bobbits drop.
IMO, it would be awesome if the Eve community got BoB to put their E-Peen back in their pants and STFU for a while.
-This thread represents my opinions and my opinions only and therefore should not be taken seriously by anybody
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Tru'Bktia
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Posted - 2006.10.28 22:52:00 -
[103]
Edited by: Tru''Bktia on 28/10/2006 22:52:12
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Rebellion
Caldari
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.28 22:55:00 -
[104]
Edited by: Rebellion on 28/10/2006 22:55:50
"We are the BoB, you will be assimilated or destroyed"
SATAN, I know your intentions are good, but it's kind of hard to convince other people to do the fighting for you. As it is right now, the other alliances have nothing to gain by fighting BoB, and a lot to lose. Fact of the matter is that someone will have to be first in line in attacking BoB. Who wants that role?
Furthermore, before alliances go off and cry death to BoB, I would like to offer this as an accurate description of what BoB appears to them: The Face of BoB
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Karina Harington
Port Royal Independent Kontractors
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.10.28 22:57:00 -
[105]
Edited by: Karina Harington on 28/10/2006 22:57:50
Originally by: RaptorX
I think you need to do your homework.
Oh yes, sorry, you lost them in your home turf. So, you took 1 Xelas outpost and have lost one of your own. I still think attacking Fountain was a bad tactical move, as it's changed nothing.
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mishkof
Caldari
Emerald Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.28 22:58:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Kishti
I think that the essence of the post, so far unstated is this: Do you guys really want a superpower in the game?
Look at the RL political situation in the world right now. Right now we have one superpower in the world, America. I can't speak for everyone of course, but I would be comfortable saying that a good many of the world's citizens have some sort of dislike of America atm. I would also feel comfortable going one step further to say that this dislike probably stems from 2 things:
1. American politicans are arrogant.
2. American politicans/businessmen use money and military might to coerce/force everyone else in the world to cede advantage to America at their own detriment.
Do we/you want this in Eve? What are possible outcomes of this war?
IMHO, if ASCN wins the war they will all shout "Hooray, LONG live ASCN, we win because we believe in what we have built together." They will then proceed to F*** off back to their space to continue the thing they really care about; building their own empire in their section of space. To be sure, they will be involved in future wars/battles/conflicts/politics. For the most part though, ASCN will worry about themselves and their empire. The ones who want to carebear will carebear, and the ones who want to fight will fight.
IMHO, if BoB wins the war, they will all shout "RAWR, we told you going into this we had the biggest E-Peen and now we have proved it!!!11! You will now all bow down before us and acknowledge us as the supreme beings of the game and tremble before us." They will go around unchallenged, imposing their will and their version of the game on everyone they feel like imposing on. They will be the America of the game.
IMHO this is the question being posed right now. Do we want one superpower in the game that is going to dominate the course of the game, or would it be better to have many smaller factions, all vying for power/territory/political clout?
Since this war has begun, I have been reading the forums regularly. The tone of the discussion of the ASCN vs. BoB war leads me to my next question: Who wants to rack up a few killmails that have BoB as the victims? With all the "Rawr, tremble before us" posts of late, wouldn't it be gratifying to have some good killmails to show your grandchildren some day? "Look sonny, this is from the great war of '06 when me and 1777dude, Roxxorz and gang went and pwned BoB."
Right now BoB is concentrated on one front, the one with ASCN. This will leave them vulnerable in much of their space.
Form up a gang, go cause some trouble. Rack up some killmails and make some good money off of the sweet loot that the Bobbits drop.
IMO, it would be awesome if the Eve community got BoB to put their E-Peen back in their pants and STFU for a while.
-This thread represents my opinions and my opinions only and therefore should not be taken seriously by anybody
This thread was before and will continue to be good after your post. please keep you opinion of real life events and entities out of it. Use ingame examples because tehre are plenty of them.
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Karina Harington
Port Royal Independent Kontractors
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.10.28 23:00:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Kishti
They will then proceed to F*** off back to their space to continue the thing they really care about; building their own empire in their section of space.
Will this movement involve a detour to EC- or perhaps C-J?
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NeoTech
Out Siders
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.28 23:02:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Zak Kingsman
Originally by: NeoTech
Can someone explain why ASCN is so hated?
I think you're making a mistake assuming that pvp requires some sort of ill will. Just because you are getting attacked doesn't mean the attackers hate you.
I didn't really refere it to the PvP ingame, but more the smack on these forums. Some people here REALLY seems to literally hate us. :o
Originally by: Evil Thug
Your leadership told you so ? Wink
Please keep them out of this, this was my own personal "belief". I just know that from the start of me joining this Alliance (no u cant use my employment history, since i traded my original char) we had been defending it. And i know that u were entering our boarders to get into other 10/10 complexes.
Dont smack, it makes u look stupid. no offense, i'm just looking for REAL reasons.
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Kishti
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Posted - 2006.10.28 23:08:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Karina Harington
Originally by: Kishti
They will then proceed to F*** off back to their space to continue the thing they really care about; building their own empire in their section of space.
Will this movement involve a detour to EC- or perhaps C-J?
I speak for noone but myself, and even that I don't do very well :)
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DeltaH
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.28 23:19:00 -
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People post ASCN is not a threat. Twisting that into a reason to *NOT* attack them in 0.0 is ludicrous. (although people say that aren't a threat only now, they were mentioned as strongest alliance constantly for months)
Why should people who don't PVP get the same benefit of 0.0 as those who fight? PVP costs a lot of ISK. A lot more isk than mining. Why get two PVP forces beating each other up when you have region after region full of 'threatless' targets soaking up the ISK? They should have to pay the risk that is the reward of 0.0 space like everyone else.
I don't think AAA likes BoB, but I think they acknowledge BoB are fighters, and vice versa for BoB to AAA.
-DeltaH
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VarmentCong
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Posted - 2006.10.28 23:36:00 -
[111]
Originally by: SATAN
What I see is a bunch of people saying o no big deal when BoB is done with ASCN they can try to attack us and we will put up a fight and show them what we are made of.
You may be right, but in the end you will get steam rolled just like everyone else. Your best chance is to side with those that you may not like or hate for that matter.
None of you have had a successful track record when dealing with BoB alone, and in the past it was ASCN who helped bob the most. What do you think is going to happen with all the hobbits when they loose? Some will be allowed to join BoB others will be forced to slave mine for BoB. In the end you will be worse off than you were before.
In my humble opinion your just a little freaked out by BOB
/me start rallyingfor people to join HIS revolt
DOWN WITH ISS!!!
Identity witheld for various reasons.
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VarmentCong
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Posted - 2006.10.28 23:39:00 -
[112]
Originally by: DeltaH
People post ASCN is not a threat. Twisting that into a reason to *NOT* attack them in 0.0 is ludicrous. (although people say that aren't a threat only now, they were mentioned as strongest alliance constantly for months)
Why should people who don't PVP get the same benefit of 0.0 as those who fight? PVP costs a lot of ISK. A lot more isk than mining. Why get two PVP forces beating each other up when you have region after region full of 'threatless' targets soaking up the ISK? They should have to pay the risk that is the reward of 0.0 space like everyone else.
I don't think AAA likes BoB, but I think they acknowledge BoB are fighters, and vice versa for BoB to AAA.
-DeltaH
^^ this guy/gal(i dotn know!!!) knows what the hell he/she (still dotn know!!!) is talking about.
And yes i do respect BOB
that was an awsome series by HBO tbo 
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Ascend Alt
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.28 23:42:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Demonica II
Ah yes poor old ASCN, and their almost 5,000 man alliance being BLOBBED by the huge zerg alliance BoB with it's 1600 memebers, poor old ASCN are greatly out numbered.... wait, i may have gotten the last bit the wrong way around.
There are not 5000 members in ASCN. Most people have multiple accounts and alts in their corps, I am one person counting as 5 for example. I would say its more like 1000 people tops with usually about 300-400 or so on at any one time spread across various regions and in empire.
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Mankind mkII
Gallente
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.28 23:48:00 -
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There are not 5000 members in ASCN. Most people have multiple accounts and alts in their corps, I am one person counting as 5 for example. I would say its more like 1000 people tops with usually about 300-400 or so on at any one time spread across various regions and in empire.
Yeah ok 1000 mains and nearly 4000 alts very much doubt this.
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Kadriel
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.10.28 23:48:00 -
[115]
Originally by: DeltaH
People post ASCN is not a threat. Twisting that into a reason to *NOT* attack them in 0.0 is ludicrous. (although people say that aren't a threat only now, they were mentioned as strongest alliance constantly for months)
Why should people who don't PVP get the same benefit of 0.0 as those who fight? PVP costs a lot of ISK. A lot more isk than mining. Why get two PVP forces beating each other up when you have region after region full of 'threatless' targets soaking up the ISK? They should have to pay the risk that is the reward of 0.0 space like everyone else.
I don't think AAA likes BoB, but I think they acknowledge BoB are fighters, and vice versa for BoB to AAA.
-DeltaH
/me applauds. Awesome post there DeltaH, and its not flaming. Bravo
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Dracolich
North Star Networks
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Posted - 2006.10.29 00:03:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Rod Blaine
They probably feel that theya re better off building up instead of getting broken down.
Think this says it best. And what I concluded myself. Maybe BoB aren't as hated, as they are feared - after all. If it would have happened, it would have happened long ago. I, for one(other than SATAN), really don't comprehend that is hasn't.
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Mahrin Skel
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.10.29 00:08:00 -
[117]
If peak alliance chat is running at 400, then the real number of pilots is probably somewhere between 2000 and 3000. But this is true of all alliances, real pilot count is usually about half of the official ranking count (the exception would be alliances with a "head tax", which pushes the alts off the rolls).
--Dave
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Ria Sotori
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.29 00:08:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Ascend Alt
Originally by: Demonica II
Ah yes poor old ASCN, and their almost 5,000 man alliance being BLOBBED by the huge zerg alliance BoB with it's 1600 memebers, poor old ASCN are greatly out numbered.... wait, i may have gotten the last bit the wrong way around.
There are not 5000 members in ASCN. Most people have multiple accounts and alts in their corps, I am one person counting as 5 for example. I would say its more like 1000 people tops with usually about 300-400 or so on at any one time spread across various regions and in empire.
So using that same logic theres only 320 ppl in Bob 
Of course we all are ambidexterous and can also play multiple accounts with our feet as well so it just seems like there more of us.
And we all log in 24/7 and have our kickboxing supermodel girlfriends / hottie speedo wearing cabana boys feed us and care for us in our parents basement while were simultaneously playing quake and bemoaning our lack of any social life and everyone elses unique superiority while waiting for our next dose of ADD medication. In between switching to our GM/DEV accounts and using our headshot macro or Node Crasher 3000 to always beat you because no way can we simply just be a tad better at playing as a collective fighting force.
Folks heres a shocker for you.
Why would BoB attack ASCN
- There Next Door
- There Big
- They might actually fight
- Molle thru darts at a eve map
- Blacklight got drunk and puked on that part of the map
- Cyvok said there toilet paper was softer in there stations
Take your pick.
Just remember to breathe regularly and that you paying to pew pew and pretend to fly a space ship around being a good guy a bad guy or something in between and have fun.
The minute you think its anything more than that your on a slippery slope to stressville and rapid burnout in this or any game. Contrary to popular belief YOU are not your character. You are simply a player in a game.
You win go RAWR
You lose go BAH
Logout - Log back in and start again.
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Louis DelaBlanche
Cosmic Odyssey
Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.29 00:16:00 -
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hmmm...its been a while since i saw a "unite against the ebil BOB threat" thread. makes a nice change from the RA ones.
To my mind theres a simple reason the other major alliances of the galaxy dont come to the aid of ASCN, its not worth the effort. In their own ways both BOB & ASCN as entities are loathed by much of the EVE community for some reason or other. On the forums you'd think there is a genuine loathing between ASCN & BOB, & indeed it sometimes sounds that the major alliance players should be kept in seperate corners of the EVE meet events for fear of a fight beaking out. But I think the forum warriers are just alliance members with a flare for creative (well, often it isnt ) writing.
Ingame, however, this war seems to be just player's having fun PvPing. ASCN's HC seem to have attempted to use it as an opertunity to humble BOB & have put their foot firmly, as it were, in it. But most BOB pilots are just fighting for the fun of it. After all their a PvP alliance. & i dont think, at this time, BOB are going to pursue the complete destruction of ASCN. It would mean alot more space to administer & more access points for hostiles.
Given the current nature of this war, coupled with other conflicts in the galaxy at this point in time, the other major alliances in EVE have little to gain from attacking BOB. LV & RED have a prolonged & seemingly genuinely personal war. D2 & IRON, having seen how protracted & tedious a POS war with just a relatively small alliance can be, in my view arnt going to travel deep into hostile space just coz BOB are ebil. In both the North & East's case; there are hostiles at home that would only capitalise if the major alliances fully commited themselves to fighting BOB.
However, if this war does take a turn & BOB pursue the territorial grab while ASCn begin to collapse; I think the other major alliances & indeed most of the 0.0 alliances of EVE will reevaluate the position. noone outside of BOB space wants a more powerfull BOB to have to live next to. In a perfect world I expect both alliances would grind themselves into extinction. But since this is unlikely to happen, id expect most would like to see the lesser -if more annoying- of two evils that is ASCN remain. I do doubt, however, that if the other major alliances get involved, it will be a coalition of BOB vs EVE. Instead id imagine it would be BoB vs ASCN vs Others, each side fighting the other two but focusing on one foe.
wow that was a long post 
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SATAN
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.10.29 00:17:00 -
[120]
Edited by: SATAN on 29/10/2006 00:19:58
Originally by: VarmentCong
Originally by: SATAN
What I see is a bunch of people saying o no big deal when BoB is done with ASCN they can try to attack us and we will put up a fight and show them what we are made of.
You may be right, but in the end you will get steam rolled just like everyone else. Your best chance is to side with those that you may not like or hate for that matter.
None of you have had a successful track record when dealing with BoB alone, and in the past it was ASCN who helped bob the most. What do you think is going to happen with all the hobbits when they loose? Some will be allowed to join BoB others will be forced to slave mine for BoB. In the end you will be worse off than you were before.
In my humble opinion your just a little freaked out by BOB
/me start rallyingfor people to join HIS revolt
DOWN WITH ISS!!!
Identity witheld for various reasons.
First post with your main.
Second there is no one that "freaks me out" been there done that, got the sticker for all of them. My only gripe with whats happening is that it goes on and on, but no one does anything about it.
If you have not figured it out yet UDIE is on a whole other level of playing, we do what we like no one can do anything about it. In other words we already won, were just along for the ride to see who comes in second.
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