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flakeys
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Posted - 2015.04.17 08:12:55 -
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Afrigael Hax wrote: Quote:you can do virtually everything in eve in about 30 min of training per your occupation. To do it well or better takes both skill points and time doing it - yes indeed very well said, but you have to actually understand that.... you understand it, I understand it but most new players don't. You got the game from the first day..good for you (pat on the head). All this amazing new content and changes aren't going to be worth **** in the wind if there are no new players coming into the game. Get your finger out and get it sorted.
Anyone who starts playing this game and jumps onto the forums or looks at eve guides will understand that immediatly and there is 'the problem' .You yourself stated you never visited the forums and many new players don't either and that's all fine and dandy in other games but in eve you need to do your homework and you need to do it often and thoroughly.Since i started playing eve i tend to go to the forums of any new game i plan to try before i even start it , just to get a feel of what the people who are playing have to say about the game and what the good and bad sides of the game are.
There is a special newbie section on the forums and older players give tips and advices there all the time.But if you don't ask the question then you don't get the answer .. or you get the answer yourself months later.Add to that that there are a big amount of new player friendly groups who will also, explain this to their new members.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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flakeys
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Posted - 2015.04.17 08:32:53 -
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Rastafarian God wrote:DUDE
People that have been playing EVE for awhile are not like your normal MMO player. Playing EVE changes you. Ive been playing since 2009, most of that time with 2 and now 3 non plexed accounts.
People that play EVE, or at least the ones that understand it, develop a prison mentality. No one is to be trusted, everyone is your enemy, and you need to find a gang to be part of to get by. If you are seen as being weak, you will be eaten alive.
Thats why you never see chat in local out of trade hubs and if someone doesn't know you they are not usually friendly.
I think that mostly is just people being indifferent with each other mostly.I have been playing eve since 2004 and back then everyone was talking to each other in local and it wasn't because eve was such a nice mylittleponyland.It changed over the years and mostly these days local chat is indeed empty or just people trying to 'get to you'.A shame really , i allways loved some local chat and still do it though these days if you get any response it usually boils down to '**** you you killed me you worthless ****' or '**** you i killed you you worthless ****'.
You see that in all kinds of games , i play fifa15 a lot on the xbox one and most of the times if someone has a headset on they'll just curse and call you names.I talked with a nice scottish guy this week about the game itself while playing against each other and he was as amazed as i was to meet someone who isn't either calling you a cheater for winning or calling you a wanker for loosing after.
It might have to do with online gaming in general being something special at the start and slowly becoming the standard for any half decent game.But that's just the feeling i have about it.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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flakeys
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Posted - 2015.04.17 08:47:28 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Tippia wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Quick & dirt fix: hand out a "gratuity" of 1.8 milion SP (= 2,500 sp/hour x 24 hours x 30 days) free to allocate, plus one free "skill remap" whenever the player pays the first month of subscription. Usable only once per new account (to limit "instant-alt" farming).
Good idea, bad idea? Wait until CCP is desperate enough about losing players who can't understand why it takes 2 days of Iddling in Real Time to as much as finish the tutorials. Doesn't help new players, only old ones. It's effectively the same as the old GÇ£professionGÇ¥ starts (back when picking race/ancestry/school was a thing), only with even greater opportunity to pick the wrong thing because you have no idea what you're doing. SP remapping in particular has such a hideously large potential for abuse that the only real way to make it GÇ£safeGÇ¥ is to impose so many restrictions on it that it will never be of any use, at which point you might as well not bother to implement it to begin with. The problem is one of fundamentally incorrect perception. It cannot be fixed through mechanical means, and should not be fixed by pandering to that perception. It can only be fixed by educating those who hold it about the fact that their belief is wrong. Yes, the perception that a new player should find something interesting to do in a new game just by start playing it rather than be forced to wait for two days until the game allows him to play is so incorrect... 
Tippia is right there though .More started SP is something wich allready has been added as well as other feautures to make it easier yet the way new players view on the skillsystem and it's 'slow progression' has allways been the same.Granting more SP or anything of that matter will not help , not even if you give them 10M SP extra .Though i am sure the vest would love that for their alts .
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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flakeys
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Posted - 2015.04.17 16:31:14 -
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Afrigael Hax wrote:...why don't my fekin friends play this game? ...they'd love it..its so frustrating .
Eve is not a game for everyone.No scratch that , eve is a game only a few ''selected'' enjoy.I have had many friends who played mmorpgs but none of them liked eve , yet somehow i loved it enough to play for 10 years wich is something i would have never held possible.Look at the vid posted above and listen to the excitement people are playing this game , that is the beauty of eve IF you enjoy it you'll find there is no other game that can give you the ''emotions'' eve has and that is not just meant for the pvp aspect.
Don't waste too much time trying to pursuade friends to play eve , rather spend that time enjoying the game for what it is and make friends here in the process.
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flakeys
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Posted - 2015.04.18 07:16:57 -
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Afrigael Hax wrote:
Personally I find that a bit worrying because it has brought me right back to the 'who's going to pay for the game if everyone's playing for free?'
Since you stated this a few times i am going to assume troll now because why the hell would someone have to worry about this ...
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