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olyyy
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Posted - 2003.11.06 00:00:00 -
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Edited by: olyyy on 07/11/2003 19:00:58
- discussion is over -
- Evolution is no pirate corp -
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
agrizla
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Posted - 2003.11.06 00:17:00 -
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Edited by: agrizla on 06/11/2003 00:18:16
Assah? Heh Assah and more precisely Hasateem have been pirate bases for months now. I left there last week after months living there and farming down south.
As a freelancer (then) Corp 1 (and their predecessors - Sisters and Dummy Corp) didn't bother me so I didn't bother them. If Evo are down there clearing the area then it's a "warzone" and I suggest you leave for a while or sort things out with them. Evo could justifiably be called "trigger happy" but there won't be any pirates left down there when they're finished so view it as a minor inconvience for now 
You don't always have time to check corp details. If they consider it a threatening area then they will shoot first and ask questions later. I'm sure if your corp is all that you claim then a quick chat in local before you warp to where they are will sort it out.
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.11.06 00:18:00 -
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They said it was a mistake, you could have tried to mail the CEo later when things would have calmed down.
Now you take it onto the public forums, if they ever give you your ship back, then Evo is really nice.
Personally I'd tell you to think before you post and trying to enforce Evo giving your stuff back by doing this.
If I made this mistake, and you toke it into public, no way I'd give you anything except more missiles when I see ya.
This is not a hijack
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agrizla
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Posted - 2003.11.06 00:19:00 -
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Heh and he is antagonising Evo Lian - not something I'd want to do 
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olyyy
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Posted - 2003.11.06 00:25:00 -
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Edited by: olyyy on 06/11/2003 00:31:43
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They said it was a mistake, you could have tried to mail the CEo later when things would have calmed down.
Now you take it onto the public forums, if they ever give you your ship back, then Evo is really nice.
well I've been mailing their ceo some hours after the incident (i think it's what u call "later")... And if u had read the post before posting this craps (not to say stupidities) maybe u'll seen i was talking about a pod and as far as i know a pod was not capable of threatening a BS or maybe are we pretty good pilots?
Read, then talk
I'll add that I'm not afraid to be attacked and podkilled for what I see and what I believe. If they want to prove me one more time than they are pirates, then they'll find me in a belt from assah and they'll -as pirates- podkill me with their BS in a coward master piece (or maybe can i try to mine their BSs?).
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.11.06 00:28:00 -
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They allready said it was a mistake, and with later I mean one or two days later.
This is not a hijack
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.11.06 00:30:00 -
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LOL, I am giggling with laughter at this. Does anyone believe Evol are not pirates?
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PsXDnS
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Posted - 2003.11.06 00:33:00 -
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omg teh evol is pirate! who cares, ****.
curse alliance is a pirate organization, so?
stop complaining.
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.11.06 00:35:00 -
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Yahrrrr, my eye patch is now fitted. I also am stocked up on *****ers.
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olyyy
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Posted - 2003.11.06 01:01:00 -
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Edited by: olyyy on 06/11/2003 01:03:39
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LOL, I am giggling with laughter at this. Does anyone believe Evol are not pirates?
once again a pirate talking and saying craps. Could u please move to other threads and polluate them?
they'll be acting as pirates if they don't take their responsabilities. We are a very small corp. That kind of mistake at 3M isk is more than what we can afford. If a pirate attack us, then ok, we should have been more carefull. But if a corp saying they are no pirates and they are fighting pirates attack us well then i'd say the pirates are already enough for us and that this corp can move out of our space. We got enough problems to deal with.
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
Shamrock
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Posted - 2003.11.06 01:03:00 -
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Olyyy,
I take offense to this my man. After the polite talks we had in trying to right this wrong done to your corp. You come on the forums and slam us. Shrike has been away for most of the day, one of the reasons your eve mail may not have been promptly replied too. Shrike is in the know about the matter and I believe he will be talking to your CEO. The one that got podded. I see you are saying things that are not true. Sutty shot the pod well within range of the sentry guns and he got shot by them. I know, because I undocked and watched him being shot by sentry guns.
I am the member that you talked to that said it was a mistake blablabla, which you should share what this blablabla was.
I also know that your CEO was being helped by Evolution not to long ago. Why don't you just ask him? That in itself should say, wow, this must be a big mistake. I have tried the nice way of handling this situation and your patience more than likely will do you in. I implore you to recant this posting and await what unfolds between our CEO's.
Deeply Disappointed,
Shamrock |
olyyy
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Posted - 2003.11.06 01:18:00 -
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Your ceo was afk most of the day? Yeah this does not explain why i get "person is offline or cannot be reach" in the next 2 seconds each time i'm trying to talk to him WHILE he is talking in local (even after rebooting eve btw for people who would say it's a bug) !!!
I'm not interrested to know your corp's common past with my ceo, sutty podded him. Great damages were made to our corp. I've asked for excuses from sutty as well as repairs to damages taken (skill loses due to particular circunstances). I think this could have been done very quickly. However we were ignored as "collateral damages" huh ?
You were nice to me indeed, but i was expecting some results from talking to u.
I'll shall apologize to Evol here when they'll prove me I'm wrong saying all that, meaning they'll repair what they did.
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.06 01:24:00 -
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I have to say monsieur olyyy, Evolution appear to be showing you a lot more patience than I would in the circumstances. Your first post alone would guarentee you'd get nothing from my corporation apart from a second podding. My advice ... learn some manners.
JF Public Forum |
The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.11.06 01:25:00 -
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Yahrrrr, my eye patch is now fitted. I also am stocked up on *****ers.
OMG, they filter C*R*A*C*K
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Angelsfist
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Posted - 2003.11.06 01:33:00 -
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Agreed Jade, were I in Evolutions shoes he'd recieve no compensation for his gross lack of diplomacy 
Slander should not be met with kindness, some paradise cruise missiles maybe.....
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.06 01:38:00 -
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Someone please remove Olyyy's batteries... or at least change the record.
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Shamrock
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Posted - 2003.11.06 01:39:00 -
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Your ceo was afk most of the day? Yeah this does not explain why i get "person is offline or cannot be reach" in the next 2 seconds each time i'm trying to talk to him WHILE he is talking in local (even after rebooting eve btw for people who would say it's a bug) !!!
I'm not interrested to know your corp's common past with my ceo, sutty podded him. Great damages were made to our corp. I've asked for excuses from sutty as well as repairs to damages taken (skill loses due to particular circunstances). I think this could have been done very quickly. However we were ignored as "collateral damages" huh ?
You were nice to me indeed, but i was expecting some results from talking to u.
I'll shall apologize to Evol here when they'll prove me I'm wrong saying all that, meaning they'll repair what they did.
Well, I know that Shrike was afk for hours today, I couldn't reach him in IRC, In game corp chat or on teamspeak.
You should be interested in the past of our corp and your CEO. OMG. What kind of security officer wouldn't want to know that information?
Great damages were made? He didn't loose a ship. He got podded. He lost his battleship skill? Ok, so you expect us to pay for another battleship skill when you haven't shown us a screen shot or proof of this happening ? And it is not our fault that your CEO can't keep his own clone up to date with his personal skill points. I have tried to be nice about this. But it is in my own personal opinion that you just take your losses and learn to deal with it. Why don't you or your CEO contact sutty and ask for an apology. I hope he tells you to stick your request your ear.
Shamrock
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2003.11.06 01:57:00 -
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I think I'll speak my mind.
Assah is a known pirate system. If we are there it is for the purpose of cleaning it out. Unfortunately this means that we treat every unidentified movement within 5 systems as potentially hostile. Pirate activity is one of the reasons why sutty is there, he's going to clean out the area. I don't want to go into the hows and whys we have decided to make it policy that if we find anyone operating in a system with our pirate targets and not fighting them, they will be assumed to be cooperating with the pirates.
Yes, I do think that the regulars in Assah should have sanitized the system long ago if they planned to operate there. The inability to do so because of being a small corporation is not an excuse that works with me. Assah is not our system, it's your system, if pirates are a daily problem for you there then you should have chased them out long ago. I will not tolerate a mindset that resigns itself to a fate of sustained oppression. I'm sorry but I just can't come to grips with that.
Now, analyzing the situation I do not see the loss inflicted on your corporation to be sufficient motive to take this stance. You are therefore driven by a combination of stress and a goal other than recovering your losses, and that's my only curiosity at the moment.
What I am wondering is what outcome will result from what we do. If we compensate you for your loss, perhaps you will go about your way and resume your regular activities. If we don't, perhaps you will be more motivated to organize a unified faction with other individual corporations that share your concerns. The question is then therefore whether we prefer you to go about your way and re-resign yourselves to regular pirate harassment where nothing really improves, or you recognize an imperative to adapt and evolve into a more suitable entity. If I see a choice between stagnation and evolution, there is no difficult choice to be made at all.
Just some thoughts.
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olyyy
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Posted - 2003.11.06 01:58:00 -
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heh, who cares of diplomacy here Jade ?
Those people were ignoring me. Then i had no reasons not to go on forum and just claim that they were acting as pirates, which is the case. It's not me who has to learn some maners. They made a mistake and after trying the classical ways I tried something different.
Maybe they won't give back my corp mate what they took, just as PIRATES would do. In this case I'll transfer him necessary isk for repairing what was done to him if he needs it.
As for their ceo I've seen him talking in local chat.
I've already ask you apologies... and I was still waiting for them when i started posting here :). If u guys cannot see u made a mistake and have to repair it, maybe some Binocular should be necessary :)
If u guys want to make a war, then go somewhere else, we miners prefer to have pirates against us than both pirates and Evol. Fly away and claim some other systems to make your warzone. 
As for kindness, we miners have been kind enough to people attacking us, destroying our ships, taking our loot and our ore. Yeah, I won't get any support to fight people attacking us, since more miners are damn peaceful but i'll be damned if i just sit on my hands and watch u people attacking us. Pod me if u want, I don't care, destroy my ship, i don't care, take my ore, i don't care BUT don't attack my corp mates.
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
Sedsiss
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Posted - 2003.11.06 02:01:00 -
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Um, we did not take anything from you, we all have enough battleship skills to go around. |
Lottsa Pox
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Posted - 2003.11.06 02:02:00 -
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I have to say that evolution is not a pirate organizations. They are one of the first corporations to actual go against m3g4 in the obe days at the ded station. Matter of fact i owe one of my vexor ship loses to them.
They are a military organization. I dont see them hanging out in empire or high jump areas hoping for good loots off the peeps that keep jumpin in or to our campsite.
You want to see pirates seek out a corp that states they are pirates. There is a difference between them. PVP skills can be lesser/equal to/or greater than evolution pilots. Just like in life any day on eve someone can be better than you.
Get a life. Evolution is a military entity. Pirates are pirates. Same tactics are sometimes used but reasons are different.
Enjoy the game, I know I am
Lottsa Pox
Pox to ya pod
BioMass Cartel
Podding a system near you |
MyLittleHelper
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Posted - 2003.11.06 02:07:00 -
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The inability to do so because of being a small corporation is not an excuse that works with me. Assah is not our system, it's your system, if pirates are a daily problem for you there then you should have chased them out long ago.
If the corps are too small in the area, more than likely theyre not able to deal with the threats cause of the possible loss of ships which they cant afford.
So that comment you made is rather harsh and uncalled for regarding the smaller corps, not everyone has the resources Evol do.
Did any of the small corps in Assah request u come and "cleanse" the area of pirates? If not then your a **** for stating what you did, they might be able to handle the situation for all you know or are quite alright evading any possible pirate threat, but you guys like to look big and 'ard of course and come in guns blazing.
If they did ask for assistance then what are you moaning at?
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olyyy
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Posted - 2003.11.06 02:12:00 -
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I think I'll speak my mind.
Assah is a known pirate system. If we are there it is for the purpose of cleaning it out. Unfortunately this means that we treat every unidentified movement within 5 systems as potentially hostile. Pirate activity is one of the reasons why sutty is there, he's going to clean out the area. I don't want to go into the hows and whys we have decided to make it policy that if we find anyone operating in a system with our pirate targets and not fighting them, they will be assumed to be cooperating with the pirates.
this is the funniest thing i've ever read. Assah is full of miners and pirates of mostly operating one jump from it. You people coming out from nowhere want us miners that have little pvp experience and some Thorax with harvester to attack pirates who are operating in groups of 2 in Scorpion Battleships ? We are taking risks, organising ourselves, making alliances to counter pirate activity.
What u are saying is fun since it means that ALL people in assah are cooperating with pirates heh... Try to announce that to them hehe
If you don't compensate our loss this might also do nothing, just proving that you people are not really different from pirates. And well that's all, we won't get more organised since miners in assah are peaceful (except myself last time i saw a corp mate thorax getting shot down by a pirate blockade from a corp that was not supposed to do that, with people with positive security status and that i was forced to blow up with some help).
U can go on with your spin doctoring about adaption of mining corp in hostile space... maybe we'll just finish by mining in Empire Space, same profit, no danger. You're just producing more and more carebears that's all.
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
olyyy
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Posted - 2003.11.06 02:13:00 -
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Um, we did not take anything from you, we all have enough battleship skills to go around.
U made great prejudice to us with your actions. I don't think we can spin doctoring on that 
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
olyyy
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Posted - 2003.11.06 02:14:00 -
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Um, we did not take anything from you, we all have enough battleship skills to go around.
U made great prejudice to us with your actions. I don't think we can spin doctoring on that
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
Angelsfist
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Posted - 2003.11.06 02:34:00 -
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How can they make a carebear out of someone who already appears to be one?
Perhaps the radiation from the nearby sun has turned you into ....
The Incredible Carebear
This grand change takes place only when something you do not like happens.
While not only growing in size this paricular form of carebear is noted for its excellence in whinage
Evolution has already stated its an accident, get over it and move on.
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2003.11.06 03:26:00 -
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Quote:
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The inability to do so because of being a small corporation is not an excuse that works with me. Assah is not our system, it's your system, if pirates are a daily problem for you there then you should have chased them out long ago.
If the corps are too small in the area, more than likely theyre not able to deal with the threats cause of the possible loss of ships which they cant afford.
So that comment you made is rather harsh and uncalled for regarding the smaller corps, not everyone has the resources Evol do.
Did any of the small corps in Assah request u come and "cleanse" the area of pirates? If not then your a **** for stating what you did, they might be able to handle the situation for all you know or are quite alright evading any possible pirate threat, but you guys like to look big and 'ard of course and come in guns blazing.
If they did ask for assistance then what are you moaning at?
I know it sounds harsh, but I can be harsher still. If they can't solve the threat because they can't afford the losses then they should either start being able to afford the losses or prevent losses from occuring.
You are also very wrong. Everyone has the resources Evolution does. Our primary resource is not minerals, nor money, nor ships. Our primary resource is the tenacity of each individual.
I'm sorry for sounding harsh but I make my assessments from memories of past actions. I've seen people overcome overwhelming odds and pull victory out of defeat. I've also seen people pull defeat out of victory. We will see more of these as time passes.
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Mordessa
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Posted - 2003.11.06 03:31:00 -
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Conclusion: Evolution are just a whole bunch of trigger happy pirates, shooting on sight anything that's moving. I even got one camping at a gate who locked me and then warp scrambled me... They told me afterwards that it was for security reasons... Well anyway with 2 mwd fitted u don't ask for the reasons, u get to they gate, jump and ask questions then.
Lesson :PVP 101
Title: How to fight.
Subject: PVP is simple, he/she who locks / jams / scrambles and webs first usuaully will be the victor of any engagement.
NOTE:
You say that you are attacked daily by pirates
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We miners in assah are getting attaqued daily by pirates.
If this is true, then why are you even still there? Is the omber there more special then everywhere else? Or have you made arrangements with those Pirates and your only claiming to be attacked on a daily basis?
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Ctrl
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Posted - 2003.11.06 04:32:00 -
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someone else is trying to earn themselves a magic hat I see. 
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I liek eating crayons
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2003.11.06 04:33:00 -
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Char is away or otherwise unreachable.
Umm, I really hate to sound like a jerk here, (even though I am) but......
THAT's a KNOWN BUG you muppet!
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Biff Steel
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Posted - 2003.11.06 05:46:00 -
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What makes you think EVOL are resposible for one of your pilots lack of better judgement. If I was in a pod and had anything of value I would also have enough common sense warp to the nearest planet/moon to said station and scan to see if any ships were outside. By doing so I would have noticed a big bad BS sitting outside. Now you have to ask yourself, is it worth it?
Lack of skill in playing this game is not EVOL's problem and hardly a concern for our CEO. Trust me, he has much greater issues to deal with and if he does resolve this minor issue you should feel very lucky! In the future, I would advise you and your corp to learn your place in the EVE food chain and stay clear of ships with big teeth!
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Xenovetica
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Posted - 2003.11.06 05:50:00 -
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And we're called pirates... pfft.
Someone like Jade needs to do a post-count on how many threads have been started (per alliance) concerning piracy.
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2003.11.06 06:27:00 -
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I hate it when Molle forgets to inform me we have changed sides and gone pirate
ffs, this is like the 10th times he has done this to me 
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
SirMolle
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Posted - 2003.11.06 07:33:00 -
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Olyyyy.
Yes there was a podkill.
Yes, it was a mistake.
Yes, Shamrock told you it was a mistake.
As it were, where we were, there were some hostiles around this area. The pilot killed was negative sec, i.e, he will show as a threat. Thats where the mistake came from.
We have a brand new shiny pod available for you whenever you should need it.
If i hear you correctly, you demand reimbursment for a lost skill? This will not happen. If this would have been treated in a different manner, it might have happened.
If you fly around with a neg sec status, mistakes happen.
Factual error;
Skills do not vanish by podding, you may loose skillpoints.
Conclusion error;
"The other party is not available" responce, means that autoreject is on. Now, for me, this is usually the case, 24/7. If you sent a eve-mail it woudl have been dealth with, but, since you are impatient, consider it dealt with.
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Walking Contradiction
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Posted - 2003.11.06 08:40:00 -
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Funny, whenever a thread written by a pirate becomes a flame thread you hear the pirates whining about the fact that people can't write normal replies. And look what happens here
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.11.06 09:39:00 -
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For any more concerns about evolution politics or standinds, please mail me in game.
I have more tact and diplomacy than all of the people who have posted in this thread times 100.
I will work hard to please you. |
The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.11.06 09:43:00 -
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Does that include your corp members?
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Javi
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Posted - 2003.11.06 11:21:00 -
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you will ignore Homo Erectus for he has one too many loose screws and his caps lock button is sticky.
ps: i've heard he actually uses the shift key and not caps lock
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"well..."
-Estarriol, Evolution AZN Calculat |
Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.11.06 11:35:00 -
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I will work hard to please you.
Dont let Miso, j0, Josh or even Hardin hear this.
Another shock, was that jade and I actually agrees on something.
This is not a hijack
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sutty
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Posted - 2003.11.06 11:52:00 -
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Edited by: sutty on 06/11/2003 11:52:20
Hi, Let me explain what happened, I just traveled to that area, when I warped to the station to unfit my travel gear, a pod warped in.
It shown in my threat box so I *assumed* he was KOS, this was my bad and I should of checked.
But maybe if you had messaged me abit later about the issue I would of payed for the damage caused, Although as I understand it you dont lose the skill only the skill points, so it is isn't possible that your ceo lost the skill althogher, in which case there needs to be no repayments.
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PoXiE
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Posted - 2003.11.06 12:17:00 -
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damn French and thier damn "manners."
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2003.11.06 12:18:00 -
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If you're podded, you are re-activated at a clone station.
At this point, the first thing you do is upgrade your clone. You should NEVER be without an up-to-date clone.
Ever.
Thus, your skill points loss is your OWN fault.
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Xenovetica
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Posted - 2003.11.06 16:40:00 -
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^--- what? So if I walk to the store and get shot, it's my fault for not wearing a bulletproof vest...
Okay, I can see the logic.
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sutty
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Posted - 2003.11.06 17:46:00 -
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if you live where there is a war. yes.
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Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2003.11.06 17:53:00 -
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If Evolution really were pirates, why would anyone bother accusing them of pirating?
They aren't pirates, and so people like olyyy think they can get leverage by making a public stink about something.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.06 17:53:00 -
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^--- what? So if I walk to the store and get shot, it's my fault for not wearing a bulletproof vest...
Okay, I can see the logic.
Can you see the common sense though?
(Thats always the bit that folks have the biggest problem with)
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Xander Teg
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Posted - 2003.11.06 19:56:00 -
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Edited by: Xander Teg on 06/11/2003 19:57:55
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^--- what? So if I walk to the store and get shot, it's my fault for not wearing a bulletproof vest...
Okay, I can see the logic.
what if the store is in East St.Louis, or South Side Chicago?
wouldn't be your fault, but you wouldn't get a whole lot of sympathy.
_________________
"For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack."
-Rudyard Kipling
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olyyy
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Posted - 2003.11.06 20:40:00 -
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Well let's be honest with all of you
1/a BS skill was lost, getting repairs for this or not won't change this fact. Maybe some of u will tell me "but u can only lose 50k skillpoint etc..." well then, prove it to me, go in your ship with no clone and get podded. Well, but this has not been happening to any of you recently I guess  (has it been happening to any of you ever? I'm waiting for a good spin doctor to lie a bit on this heh). Well i'm sure u can loose only some skillpoints too... but the skill here vanished...
2/Evolution have proven they were not different for us from pirates. And more dangerous 'cause they are even more nummerous. I like to hear those words:
"this is warzone" (we are here since a whiile and someone come here and say that lol...)
"those not attacking pirates while be considering as cooperating with them" (i love this one... Ok next time u'll explain miners in assah "alright boys when u see a pirate send roids on him")
"we made a mistake" (yeah pirates make a lot of mistakes everyoday, they just don't say it's mistake... next time try "we were hired to do that")
"u have no sense of diplomacy" (from people killing on sight this sounds quite funny, maybe i have no diplomacy but at least i don't go on a coward killing spree upon miners)
"we would have repair damages if u had not gone on forum" (but on the other hand we say you cannot loose a skill like this. We are saying you're lying BUT we would have paid for what we did, errr... didn't, sry)
"we are not pirates" (but it makes no difference from pirates)
"if you live where there is a war. yes." errr not exactly, U people are fighting some stupid war making important "collateral damages" in our system. I was wondering if you could go somewhere else, Eve is big, just go and find other people to annoy
"If Evolution really were pirates, why would anyone bother accusing them of pirating?" well see, here u have someone (me) complaining about their pirates activities. We have enough of those cowboys in our space, we just want them to go for rodeo somewhere else.
For those still saying i didn't respected the procedure to get repairs from the "incident", I sent an Eve mail quite a lot of hours before posting here. Due to the gravity of the agression the least they could do, would have been to threat this as a priority matter. They didn't and are now refusing repairs for "lack of diplomacy" for posting facts on forum . Well we have survived many pirates activities, once again we shall survive this agression. Maybe people will just be carefull now when spotting Evolution corp members knowing they risk to be podded as pirates .
olyyy
Omega Investments' Security officer
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.06 20:46:00 -
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Join Biomass Olyyy, they are looking for recruits of your calibur, I recommend that you speak with Mongo Peck immediately in-game, and work out a way to make good your losses in collaboration with the "dork empire" allied command council.
And if they are not interested you could always try Captain Mascara ... he's a guy of humour and vision I am told.
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olyyy
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Posted - 2003.11.06 20:59:00 -
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errr I'm not sure Biomass is specialized in mining roids :) But i'll promess, next time i'll see Mr Money in assah instead of saying "long life to NVA" in local I shall ask him if Biomass is providing miner2's to its new members
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Harry Stoteles
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Posted - 2003.11.06 23:43:00 -
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Edited by: Harry Stoteles on 06/11/2003 23:44:07
Cruising around with a pod in a low sec system with a negative sec rating really asks for trouble.
I had to think of one of the 'Die Hard' movies, where Bruce Willis had to walk around in the Bronx with a sign that said 'i hate n.iggers'
(edit for that annoying filter)
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Xander Teg
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Posted - 2003.11.07 02:15:00 -
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Edited by: Xander Teg on 07/11/2003 02:26:09
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Cruising around with a pod in a low sec system with a negative sec rating really asks for trouble.
Yes, and doing it without an up to date clone and then telling everyone about it is just down right asking to be branded a fool.
As for Evolution, they are a military corp. When they are in a hostile system, I stay away from them and i am part of their alliance.
Best thing to do is stay the heck out of their way so they can get on with their buisness of making space pirate free. They are doing you a favor, why get in their way, and make life hard for them by forcing them to differentiate between hostile/nonhostile.
ROE for a United States Marine in a Combat hostage situation is shoot through the hostage(ROEs are situation specific but this is more or less SOP). It is what they are trained to do. Sure the innocent bystander is innocent, but if he gets taken hostage some LCPL is gonna aim center mass(of the hostile not the hostage) and squeeze the trigger, and if the hostage is in the way of the round, he is just as dead as if the terrorist/enemy/whatever had killed him himself.
So it certainly behooves innocents to stay tf away.
warzones are a dangerous place for innocents, and even the good guys make mistakes, but having your pod destroyed you should have lost nothing, as you had just been podded so you had already lost any implants you had. Your clone activates in a station with clone facilities, the first thing you should do is upgrade. So the only thing sutty should have cost you is the cost of the clone. The rest is your own fault, and the rudeness with which you have posted in this forum speaks alot louder than any acount you can give about what happened.
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2003.11.07 03:04:00 -
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olyyy seriously dude, id stfu you seem to be diggin a huuuge big hole for yourself
Sass
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Xuesia
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Posted - 2003.11.07 03:10:00 -
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Olyyyy
The one thing i can promise you, is that if we in Evolution ever decided to become a pirate organization, there would be NO mistake about it, and the EVE universe would be a VERY different place to be.
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.11.07 03:19:00 -
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Olyyyy
The one thing i can promise you, is that if we in Evolution ever decided to become a pirate organization, there would be NO mistake about it, and the EVE universe would be a VERY different place to be.
Xuesia. Evolution has always pirated.
The evolution of Evolution:
1. Killing indies.
2. Licking blood.
3. Mining until in urinated Armageddons.
4. Killing everywhere, also in Venal upon request of the drag queen Jade.
5. Telling everyone that they are not pirates.
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2003.11.07 03:42:00 -
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Molly, don't get involved unless you want to attract our attention.
It is to your advantage that you not attract our attention.
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Javi
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Posted - 2003.11.07 03:53:00 -
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Edited by: Javi on 07/11/2003 03:54:30
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2. Licking blood.
*giggles* oh my
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2003.11.07 04:08:00 -
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Can someone explain to me what a "urinated armageddon" is??
Is that anything like passing a stone? but like, a geddon sized stone or something? cause im no expert on this kinda thing, but im prety sure that would hurt a touch
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.07 04:21:00 -
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Can someone explain to me what a "urinated armageddon" is??
Molly lives in a world of her own, and sometimes the medication wears off.
And that's all the enlightenment I can offer I'm afraid.
Love and peace
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.11.07 05:09:00 -
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Molly, don't get involved unless you want to attract our attention.
It is to your advantage that you not attract our attention.
I am so scared to death now  .
Unlike you Evolution noobs I never threaten people and promise them something .
And btw, I know 2 people from early retail days who have been killed by Evolution (both Indy drivers), so until you can prove me wrong with you and piracy I suggest: STFU .
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.11.07 05:16:00 -
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Can someone explain to me what a "urinated armageddon" is??
Is that anything like passing a stone? but like, a geddon sized stone or something? cause im no expert on this kinda thing, but im prety sure that would hurt a touch
The armor looks kinda urinated to me.
I use the term "urinated Armageddons" along with Evolution alot and what I want to say with that is: Unlike real pirates (Evolution are wannabes only) Evolution mined until they all got their Armageddons; they never had the balls to pirate in frigates or cruisers for long. They just killed a few indies in the early retail days, decided it was cool, but they didn't want to draw attention and die because of lacking skills and disappeared.
Later they reappeared in their urinated Armageddons smacktalking in Venal (usualy passing our blockades with their MWD out of warp exploit (OMG I OWN Evolution WITH CCP's exploit definitions!!! EVIL EXPLOITERS!). They impressed Jade very much :-).
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.11.07 05:25:00 -
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"Can someone explain to me what a "urinated armageddon" is??"
... What's gold to one is p.ss-yellow to another :s
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.11.07 05:36:00 -
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Evolution are not pirates Molly. Xusia is correct when he said that if Evolution did decide to be pirates, there would be no question.
You are just a stupid unskilled newbie who got bent over and rampaged long ago and are still sore.
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Danny V
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Posted - 2003.11.07 06:04:00 -
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So let me get this straight?
You get podkilled
You talk to a Evo member who says it was a mistake
You can't get a hold of the CEO
You don't wait a few days, possibly a couple of weeks to try to contact the CEO
You proceed to flame Evo on the forums
I would pod you AND your corpmembers if i saw them for this drivle. Even if they are pirates, you are the only ******* around here buddy.
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2003.11.07 06:22:00 -
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The armor looks kinda urinated to me.
Um, ok, I guess. Is this one of the Freudian things?
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Evolution mined until they all got their Armageddons; they never had the balls to pirate in frigates or cruisers for long. They just killed a few indies in the early retail days, decided it was cool, but they didn't want to draw attention and die because of lacking skills and disappeared.
No they didnÆt pirate in frigs they went after and attacked other pirates in their frigs and cruisers if I recall correctly, but thatÆs ok, I will forgive your negligence to details and accept your imperfections. Secondly what is wrong with mining for your ship anyways? So some people like to do things the hard way, big deal, take a pill
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Later they reappeared in their urinated Armageddons smacktalking in Venal (usualy passing our blockades with their MWD out of warp exploit
Again with your negligence to detail, alas child please invest in a memory implant for the sake of us all. The 1st time Evol came to Venal there was probably 4-5 Geddons and the rest were in cruisers, I would know, I was putting around in my Maller at the time staring at Hoshi's backside. Also I donÆt see how you can begin complain about people mwd'ing thru your blockades when youÆd sit at a gate inside jump range and attack until you lost your shields and then jumped out, or better yet, sit inside docking range of a station and dock to recharge your shields instantly in the middle of battle too, but hey, who is keeping track of these minor details anyways right
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They impressed Jade very much
As far as I know, Evol has never "impressed" Jade, and if we have or have not, frankly I doubt anyone in Evol cares, so I donÆt see where your going with that little tid bit of useless spatter.
Finally as far as Evol being pirates or "wannabes", I donÆt see how you can attach that title to us if the pirates themselves are saying that we are not pirates but rather a military corp. Now if in your infinite wisdom you can not begin to differentiate the two meanings, I am sure there are others here who will be more then happy to oblige to your special needs child.
Have a nice day
and remember
Deathwing wubs j00 <3 
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
Molly
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Posted - 2003.11.07 07:02:00 -
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You sad guys can smack talk all day long, I can name two innocent people you have killed in their indies w/o reimbursing them some time ago.
The funniest part about you guys is that you can't admit, that you killed for fun.
Get lost.
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Deathwing
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Posted - 2003.11.07 07:12:00 -
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Um
Actually we kill everyone for fun
if it wasnt fun, then why would we do it? what would we have to gain by it? If it wasnt fun, then we wouldnt play Eve
As for your two friends, why dont you go make alt accounts, log on with them, and post pretending to be them, so you can flame and call us pirates k?
thx luv ya sweet cheaks
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SirMolle
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Posted - 2003.11.07 08:16:00 -
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Molly,
For some reason i had you pegged as somewhat intelligent, i'll adjust that directly. And if you wish to call us pirates Molly, feel free, all piratecorps knows exactly what is the truth, and so do we.
And we managed to kill 2 innocent indys, wow. In 6 months. Wow. They werent by any chance flying around in a fighting zone were they?
As Xuesia says, if we were to be pirates, we would proudly say so and you would know without a doubt that this would be the case.
You may call us what you wish Molly.
I'll just call you troll.
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.11.07 08:28:00 -
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Molly,
For some reason i had you pegged as somewhat intelligent, i'll adjust that directly. And if you wish to call us pirates Molly, feel free, all piratecorps knows exactly what is the truth, and so do we.
And we managed to kill 2 innocent indys, wow. In 6 months. Wow. They werent by any chance flying around in a fighting zone were they?
As Xuesia says, if we were to be pirates, we would proudly say so and you would know without a doubt that this would be the case.
You may call us what you wish Molly.
I'll just call you troll.
Not my fault that you don't have a ******* clue about what your members were/are doing or what not.
You killed 2 people for NO REASON I used to work with in the early days and that should be seen in bigger proportion. You killed prolly much more people. I've also seen Evolution in Derelik camping gates together with that KOD wannabe pirates and blowing up people with smartbombs 3 months ago.
I don't care about their losses. I also don't care about what you think you are or not and I also do not care whether you pirate or not. Everyone should do what he wants to do in this game. I only know that I adjusted the rating of Evolution so I would be warned when Mordessa and friends would try pirate/kill me.
And I also know that I laughed my arse off when you idiots demanded from Jade to remove piracy from Venal and she went for it. Because you are pirates.
Maybe it is a sport for you to deny your piracy activities, I hope so. If not, then you have lost control a long time ago.
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Javi
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Posted - 2003.11.07 11:04:00 -
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You are just a stupid unskilled newbie who got bent over and rampaged long ago and are still sore.
yup... with every post this dumb **** makes, it becomes more apparent
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Reah
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Posted - 2003.11.07 11:34:00 -
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Im begining to really wonder what Molly's definition(sp) of 'Pirate' is..
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Dakkon
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Posted - 2003.11.07 12:42:00 -
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I've also seen Evolution in Derelik camping gates together with that KOD wannabe pirates and blowing up people with smartbombs 3 months ago.
lol now your pulling **** out your ass here Molly. We have never camped gates with pirates, unless u count thoses pesky NPC gate pirates.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.07 13:30:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 07/11/2003 13:31:56
Monsieur Deathwing,
I have to correct you on a point,
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As far as I know, Evol has never "impressed" Jade, and if we have or have not, frankly I doubt anyone in Evol cares, so I donÆt see where your going with that little tid bit of useless spatter.
Evo have impressed me in several ways;
1. By winning the war in Venal against the VA. You taught me a lot about strategic warfare in Eve. (And while Evo was winning, Molly and her friends were running, so I think her assessment is pretty much invalid.)
2. By proving yourselves honourable and bound by word. That is a precious commodity and rare in this galaxy of cutthroats, traitors and corp-thief-pirate-groups. (And since Molly's friends have given refuge to the biggest corpthief eve has seen so far, I think she should realise at least one of the reasons she is despised)
3. By demonstrating the courage and resolve of your principles. I respect strength, but I respect resolution and resolve more. Evolution is a corporation that stands on its reputation and does not shrink from following through with promises. (a lesson many like Molly and her dear friend captain Mascara might learn)
As to whether Evolution care what I think, thats neither here nor there.
My thoughts are my own.
Love and peace (in the ruins)
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Xenovetica
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Posted - 2003.11.07 17:38:00 -
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How's about the dev's build arenas so that you people can solve your differences 1on1? CCP would at least save some bling on bandwidth.
By the way Jade, this isn't to insult you, but rather a question whose answer I'm unsure of because I'm never in Venal and have never seen you in person, but do you ever fly in combat?
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.07 18:07:00 -
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By the way Jade, this isn't to insult you, but rather a question whose answer I'm unsure of because I'm never in Venal and have never seen you in person, but do you ever fly in combat?
I have done Xenovetica, but I am not (in all honesty) much good at it. Mostly I suspect because I devoted all my early game training to learning the skills and attitude required to evade combat at all costs (as a trader in marginal space).
That said, I have flown in some big fleet battles and have fought a 1 on 1 battleship fight that led to Cloud Alexander blowing up my Armaggedon.
I am however devoting all my current training to combat skills and hoping to get more involved in PvP because the NVA needs all the combat pilots we can get.
And of course, to enjoy the game I think we all need to experience its various aspects ...
My total record to date in combat i;
2 punishers, 1 maller, 3 blackbirds, 2 bestowers, 1 armaggedon lost to PvP.
In return I've helped kill a thorax in a friendly fire accident *oops*
But I must say I am facinated and I very much want to learn this part of the game.
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olyyy
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Posted - 2003.11.07 18:59:00 -
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Discussion is over.
Evolution boys are not pirates. Sorry for all pirates who thought they had new friends to play with
I make official apologies to Evolution's crew and hope they'll forget this misunderstanding
olyyy
Omega Investments' Security officer
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
SirMolle
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Posted - 2003.11.07 19:18:00 -
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Apology accepted.
Enjoy your stay sir.
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.11.07 19:29:00 -
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Quote:
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I've also seen Evolution in Derelik camping gates together with that KOD wannabe pirates and blowing up people with smartbombs 3 months ago.
lol now your pulling **** out your ass here Molly. We have never camped gates with pirates, unless u count thoses pesky NPC gate pirates.
Next time I will make a screenshot.
But then again you would still never done it.
ROFL.
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