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olyyy
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Posted - 2003.11.06 00:00:00 -
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Edited by: olyyy on 07/11/2003 19:00:58
- discussion is over -
- Evolution is no pirate corp -
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
agrizla
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Posted - 2003.11.06 00:17:00 -
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Edited by: agrizla on 06/11/2003 00:18:16
Assah? Heh Assah and more precisely Hasateem have been pirate bases for months now. I left there last week after months living there and farming down south.
As a freelancer (then) Corp 1 (and their predecessors - Sisters and Dummy Corp) didn't bother me so I didn't bother them. If Evo are down there clearing the area then it's a "warzone" and I suggest you leave for a while or sort things out with them. Evo could justifiably be called "trigger happy" but there won't be any pirates left down there when they're finished so view it as a minor inconvience for now 
You don't always have time to check corp details. If they consider it a threatening area then they will shoot first and ask questions later. I'm sure if your corp is all that you claim then a quick chat in local before you warp to where they are will sort it out.
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.11.06 00:18:00 -
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They said it was a mistake, you could have tried to mail the CEo later when things would have calmed down.
Now you take it onto the public forums, if they ever give you your ship back, then Evo is really nice.
Personally I'd tell you to think before you post and trying to enforce Evo giving your stuff back by doing this.
If I made this mistake, and you toke it into public, no way I'd give you anything except more missiles when I see ya.
This is not a hijack
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agrizla
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Posted - 2003.11.06 00:19:00 -
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Heh and he is antagonising Evo Lian - not something I'd want to do 
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olyyy
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Posted - 2003.11.06 00:25:00 -
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Edited by: olyyy on 06/11/2003 00:31:43
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They said it was a mistake, you could have tried to mail the CEo later when things would have calmed down.
Now you take it onto the public forums, if they ever give you your ship back, then Evo is really nice.
well I've been mailing their ceo some hours after the incident (i think it's what u call "later")... And if u had read the post before posting this craps (not to say stupidities) maybe u'll seen i was talking about a pod and as far as i know a pod was not capable of threatening a BS or maybe are we pretty good pilots?
Read, then talk
I'll add that I'm not afraid to be attacked and podkilled for what I see and what I believe. If they want to prove me one more time than they are pirates, then they'll find me in a belt from assah and they'll -as pirates- podkill me with their BS in a coward master piece (or maybe can i try to mine their BSs?).
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.11.06 00:28:00 -
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They allready said it was a mistake, and with later I mean one or two days later.
This is not a hijack
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.11.06 00:30:00 -
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LOL, I am giggling with laughter at this. Does anyone believe Evol are not pirates?
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PsXDnS
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Posted - 2003.11.06 00:33:00 -
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omg teh evol is pirate! who cares, ****.
curse alliance is a pirate organization, so?
stop complaining.
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.11.06 00:35:00 -
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Yahrrrr, my eye patch is now fitted. I also am stocked up on *****ers.
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olyyy
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Posted - 2003.11.06 01:01:00 -
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Edited by: olyyy on 06/11/2003 01:03:39
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LOL, I am giggling with laughter at this. Does anyone believe Evol are not pirates?
once again a pirate talking and saying craps. Could u please move to other threads and polluate them?
they'll be acting as pirates if they don't take their responsabilities. We are a very small corp. That kind of mistake at 3M isk is more than what we can afford. If a pirate attack us, then ok, we should have been more carefull. But if a corp saying they are no pirates and they are fighting pirates attack us well then i'd say the pirates are already enough for us and that this corp can move out of our space. We got enough problems to deal with.
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
Shamrock
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Posted - 2003.11.06 01:03:00 -
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Olyyy,
I take offense to this my man. After the polite talks we had in trying to right this wrong done to your corp. You come on the forums and slam us. Shrike has been away for most of the day, one of the reasons your eve mail may not have been promptly replied too. Shrike is in the know about the matter and I believe he will be talking to your CEO. The one that got podded. I see you are saying things that are not true. Sutty shot the pod well within range of the sentry guns and he got shot by them. I know, because I undocked and watched him being shot by sentry guns.
I am the member that you talked to that said it was a mistake blablabla, which you should share what this blablabla was.
I also know that your CEO was being helped by Evolution not to long ago. Why don't you just ask him? That in itself should say, wow, this must be a big mistake. I have tried the nice way of handling this situation and your patience more than likely will do you in. I implore you to recant this posting and await what unfolds between our CEO's.
Deeply Disappointed,
Shamrock |
olyyy
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Posted - 2003.11.06 01:18:00 -
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Your ceo was afk most of the day? Yeah this does not explain why i get "person is offline or cannot be reach" in the next 2 seconds each time i'm trying to talk to him WHILE he is talking in local (even after rebooting eve btw for people who would say it's a bug) !!!
I'm not interrested to know your corp's common past with my ceo, sutty podded him. Great damages were made to our corp. I've asked for excuses from sutty as well as repairs to damages taken (skill loses due to particular circunstances). I think this could have been done very quickly. However we were ignored as "collateral damages" huh ?
You were nice to me indeed, but i was expecting some results from talking to u.
I'll shall apologize to Evol here when they'll prove me I'm wrong saying all that, meaning they'll repair what they did.
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.11.06 01:24:00 -
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I have to say monsieur olyyy, Evolution appear to be showing you a lot more patience than I would in the circumstances. Your first post alone would guarentee you'd get nothing from my corporation apart from a second podding. My advice ... learn some manners.
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2003.11.06 01:25:00 -
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Yahrrrr, my eye patch is now fitted. I also am stocked up on *****ers.
OMG, they filter C*R*A*C*K
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Angelsfist
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Posted - 2003.11.06 01:33:00 -
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Agreed Jade, were I in Evolutions shoes he'd recieve no compensation for his gross lack of diplomacy 
Slander should not be met with kindness, some paradise cruise missiles maybe.....
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.11.06 01:38:00 -
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Someone please remove Olyyy's batteries... or at least change the record.
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Shamrock
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Posted - 2003.11.06 01:39:00 -
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Your ceo was afk most of the day? Yeah this does not explain why i get "person is offline or cannot be reach" in the next 2 seconds each time i'm trying to talk to him WHILE he is talking in local (even after rebooting eve btw for people who would say it's a bug) !!!
I'm not interrested to know your corp's common past with my ceo, sutty podded him. Great damages were made to our corp. I've asked for excuses from sutty as well as repairs to damages taken (skill loses due to particular circunstances). I think this could have been done very quickly. However we were ignored as "collateral damages" huh ?
You were nice to me indeed, but i was expecting some results from talking to u.
I'll shall apologize to Evol here when they'll prove me I'm wrong saying all that, meaning they'll repair what they did.
Well, I know that Shrike was afk for hours today, I couldn't reach him in IRC, In game corp chat or on teamspeak.
You should be interested in the past of our corp and your CEO. OMG. What kind of security officer wouldn't want to know that information?
Great damages were made? He didn't loose a ship. He got podded. He lost his battleship skill? Ok, so you expect us to pay for another battleship skill when you haven't shown us a screen shot or proof of this happening ? And it is not our fault that your CEO can't keep his own clone up to date with his personal skill points. I have tried to be nice about this. But it is in my own personal opinion that you just take your losses and learn to deal with it. Why don't you or your CEO contact sutty and ask for an apology. I hope he tells you to stick your request your ear.
Shamrock
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2003.11.06 01:57:00 -
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I think I'll speak my mind.
Assah is a known pirate system. If we are there it is for the purpose of cleaning it out. Unfortunately this means that we treat every unidentified movement within 5 systems as potentially hostile. Pirate activity is one of the reasons why sutty is there, he's going to clean out the area. I don't want to go into the hows and whys we have decided to make it policy that if we find anyone operating in a system with our pirate targets and not fighting them, they will be assumed to be cooperating with the pirates.
Yes, I do think that the regulars in Assah should have sanitized the system long ago if they planned to operate there. The inability to do so because of being a small corporation is not an excuse that works with me. Assah is not our system, it's your system, if pirates are a daily problem for you there then you should have chased them out long ago. I will not tolerate a mindset that resigns itself to a fate of sustained oppression. I'm sorry but I just can't come to grips with that.
Now, analyzing the situation I do not see the loss inflicted on your corporation to be sufficient motive to take this stance. You are therefore driven by a combination of stress and a goal other than recovering your losses, and that's my only curiosity at the moment.
What I am wondering is what outcome will result from what we do. If we compensate you for your loss, perhaps you will go about your way and resume your regular activities. If we don't, perhaps you will be more motivated to organize a unified faction with other individual corporations that share your concerns. The question is then therefore whether we prefer you to go about your way and re-resign yourselves to regular pirate harassment where nothing really improves, or you recognize an imperative to adapt and evolve into a more suitable entity. If I see a choice between stagnation and evolution, there is no difficult choice to be made at all.
Just some thoughts.
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olyyy
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Posted - 2003.11.06 01:58:00 -
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heh, who cares of diplomacy here Jade ?
Those people were ignoring me. Then i had no reasons not to go on forum and just claim that they were acting as pirates, which is the case. It's not me who has to learn some maners. They made a mistake and after trying the classical ways I tried something different.
Maybe they won't give back my corp mate what they took, just as PIRATES would do. In this case I'll transfer him necessary isk for repairing what was done to him if he needs it.
As for their ceo I've seen him talking in local chat.
I've already ask you apologies... and I was still waiting for them when i started posting here :). If u guys cannot see u made a mistake and have to repair it, maybe some Binocular should be necessary :)
If u guys want to make a war, then go somewhere else, we miners prefer to have pirates against us than both pirates and Evol. Fly away and claim some other systems to make your warzone. 
As for kindness, we miners have been kind enough to people attacking us, destroying our ships, taking our loot and our ore. Yeah, I won't get any support to fight people attacking us, since more miners are damn peaceful but i'll be damned if i just sit on my hands and watch u people attacking us. Pod me if u want, I don't care, destroy my ship, i don't care, take my ore, i don't care BUT don't attack my corp mates.
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
Sedsiss
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Posted - 2003.11.06 02:01:00 -
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Um, we did not take anything from you, we all have enough battleship skills to go around. |
Lottsa Pox
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Posted - 2003.11.06 02:02:00 -
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I have to say that evolution is not a pirate organizations. They are one of the first corporations to actual go against m3g4 in the obe days at the ded station. Matter of fact i owe one of my vexor ship loses to them.
They are a military organization. I dont see them hanging out in empire or high jump areas hoping for good loots off the peeps that keep jumpin in or to our campsite.
You want to see pirates seek out a corp that states they are pirates. There is a difference between them. PVP skills can be lesser/equal to/or greater than evolution pilots. Just like in life any day on eve someone can be better than you.
Get a life. Evolution is a military entity. Pirates are pirates. Same tactics are sometimes used but reasons are different.
Enjoy the game, I know I am
Lottsa Pox
Pox to ya pod
BioMass Cartel
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MyLittleHelper
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Posted - 2003.11.06 02:07:00 -
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The inability to do so because of being a small corporation is not an excuse that works with me. Assah is not our system, it's your system, if pirates are a daily problem for you there then you should have chased them out long ago.
If the corps are too small in the area, more than likely theyre not able to deal with the threats cause of the possible loss of ships which they cant afford.
So that comment you made is rather harsh and uncalled for regarding the smaller corps, not everyone has the resources Evol do.
Did any of the small corps in Assah request u come and "cleanse" the area of pirates? If not then your a **** for stating what you did, they might be able to handle the situation for all you know or are quite alright evading any possible pirate threat, but you guys like to look big and 'ard of course and come in guns blazing.
If they did ask for assistance then what are you moaning at?
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olyyy
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Posted - 2003.11.06 02:12:00 -
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I think I'll speak my mind.
Assah is a known pirate system. If we are there it is for the purpose of cleaning it out. Unfortunately this means that we treat every unidentified movement within 5 systems as potentially hostile. Pirate activity is one of the reasons why sutty is there, he's going to clean out the area. I don't want to go into the hows and whys we have decided to make it policy that if we find anyone operating in a system with our pirate targets and not fighting them, they will be assumed to be cooperating with the pirates.
this is the funniest thing i've ever read. Assah is full of miners and pirates of mostly operating one jump from it. You people coming out from nowhere want us miners that have little pvp experience and some Thorax with harvester to attack pirates who are operating in groups of 2 in Scorpion Battleships ? We are taking risks, organising ourselves, making alliances to counter pirate activity.
What u are saying is fun since it means that ALL people in assah are cooperating with pirates heh... Try to announce that to them hehe
If you don't compensate our loss this might also do nothing, just proving that you people are not really different from pirates. And well that's all, we won't get more organised since miners in assah are peaceful (except myself last time i saw a corp mate thorax getting shot down by a pirate blockade from a corp that was not supposed to do that, with people with positive security status and that i was forced to blow up with some help).
U can go on with your spin doctoring about adaption of mining corp in hostile space... maybe we'll just finish by mining in Empire Space, same profit, no danger. You're just producing more and more carebears that's all.
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
olyyy
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Posted - 2003.11.06 02:13:00 -
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Um, we did not take anything from you, we all have enough battleship skills to go around.
U made great prejudice to us with your actions. I don't think we can spin doctoring on that 
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
olyyy
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Posted - 2003.11.06 02:14:00 -
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Um, we did not take anything from you, we all have enough battleship skills to go around.
U made great prejudice to us with your actions. I don't think we can spin doctoring on that
Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 ) |
Angelsfist
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Posted - 2003.11.06 02:34:00 -
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How can they make a carebear out of someone who already appears to be one?
Perhaps the radiation from the nearby sun has turned you into ....
The Incredible Carebear
This grand change takes place only when something you do not like happens.
While not only growing in size this paricular form of carebear is noted for its excellence in whinage
Evolution has already stated its an accident, get over it and move on.
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2003.11.06 03:26:00 -
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The inability to do so because of being a small corporation is not an excuse that works with me. Assah is not our system, it's your system, if pirates are a daily problem for you there then you should have chased them out long ago.
If the corps are too small in the area, more than likely theyre not able to deal with the threats cause of the possible loss of ships which they cant afford.
So that comment you made is rather harsh and uncalled for regarding the smaller corps, not everyone has the resources Evol do.
Did any of the small corps in Assah request u come and "cleanse" the area of pirates? If not then your a **** for stating what you did, they might be able to handle the situation for all you know or are quite alright evading any possible pirate threat, but you guys like to look big and 'ard of course and come in guns blazing.
If they did ask for assistance then what are you moaning at?
I know it sounds harsh, but I can be harsher still. If they can't solve the threat because they can't afford the losses then they should either start being able to afford the losses or prevent losses from occuring.
You are also very wrong. Everyone has the resources Evolution does. Our primary resource is not minerals, nor money, nor ships. Our primary resource is the tenacity of each individual.
I'm sorry for sounding harsh but I make my assessments from memories of past actions. I've seen people overcome overwhelming odds and pull victory out of defeat. I've also seen people pull defeat out of victory. We will see more of these as time passes.
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Mordessa
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Posted - 2003.11.06 03:31:00 -
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Conclusion: Evolution are just a whole bunch of trigger happy pirates, shooting on sight anything that's moving. I even got one camping at a gate who locked me and then warp scrambled me... They told me afterwards that it was for security reasons... Well anyway with 2 mwd fitted u don't ask for the reasons, u get to they gate, jump and ask questions then.
Lesson :PVP 101
Title: How to fight.
Subject: PVP is simple, he/she who locks / jams / scrambles and webs first usuaully will be the victor of any engagement.
NOTE:
You say that you are attacked daily by pirates
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We miners in assah are getting attaqued daily by pirates.
If this is true, then why are you even still there? Is the omber there more special then everywhere else? Or have you made arrangements with those Pirates and your only claiming to be attacked on a daily basis?
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Ctrl
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Posted - 2003.11.06 04:32:00 -
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someone else is trying to earn themselves a magic hat I see. 
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2003.11.06 04:33:00 -
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Char is away or otherwise unreachable.
Umm, I really hate to sound like a jerk here, (even though I am) but......
THAT's a KNOWN BUG you muppet!
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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