Kay, just so we're all nice and clear on this, Antikythera (Drifter, Circadian loot) goes for 11.5 mil in Jita right now.
Drifters always drop 2 Antikythera. Circadian Seekers have a chance to drop 1 Anitkythera (about 40%)

It takes about 70 Thermal DPS to kill a Drifter.

For me, I lose 1.5 million per Drifter kill, and theoretically gain 23 million.

I don't kill Drifters for money, but ~21.5 million per kill sounds pretty nice to me.

And takes you how long per kill on average and what happens when 2 spawn?
Also if you are exploiting an AI loophole to shut them down, expect it to be patched very soon.

So it's confirmed Seekers drop them 'antik' too, just not so often? Do you have to engage them at a Obersatory to get it or cam you destroy them any where in system?

So it's confirmed Seekers drop them 'antik' too, just not so often? Do you have to engage them at a Obersatory to get it or cam you destroy them any where in system?

You can be shooting Circadian Seekers from the Drifter Battleship group, and the Circadian Seeker group won't care.
I haven't tested the other way round, and I can't now, mainly because Drifters automatically attack capsuleers with terrible standing (who knew!?).

How do you check those standings as a matter of interest?

*Only in the Drifter group in Unidentified Wormhole systems. Drifters spawning as part of the Circadian Seeker group do not modify Drifter standings.

Good to know, my next question is what is the ideal Seeker killing ship? I'm sure it's been posted somewhere before so If any one can link a description of a good fit, or the kind of stats needed to kill them please advise me.

Thanks in advance.

Can anyone else confirm this? That's a big hunting advantage if true. You seem quite, knowledgeable till now and I'm not doubting you, I just want to fact check before I go killing any of them.

Drifters always drop 2 Antikythera. Circadian Seekers have a chance to drop 1 Anitkythera (about 40%)

I'm not saying they should be removed from Hi-Sec, just wondering what the point in bothering with the hassle of exploding a ship or 3 to them was when you could just scrap your ship in the hangar and at least get some resources out of it. Thanks for the info guys, it has been educational for me and at least 1 other person, success!

The Seekers I encountered all orbited at 10k, and since I was testing stuff I was trying to salvage as I went I only downed 2 of the 4 Seekers before a Drifter spawned and ruined the fun.

I was using a brick fit HAM Drake and got the seekers to the gate so I had a quick exit if needed. This way I could fly out to the wrecks and still have time to get back to the gate even with Drifter aggro.

How do the Drifters react to say a neutral logi cruiser repping from max range? And I saw somewhere that ECM was helpful but last I heard a while back was that ECM was no longer effective after one of the buffs, in either case, what flavor of ECM is most effective against them?

I was also going to get on Sisi today and see if I could figure out a good battleship fit to survive the DD, but can't remember the specific specs on the dmg of the weapon itself.

So this is in the loot drop in the wreck, not the salvaging of the wreck, correct?

Also one other thing, does the DD hit for perfect on any target regardless of speed/size?

One thing I'm running into, once I kill all the Seekers I found in a system, how quickly do they respawn or is there a way to make them respawn?

And is there a best way to locate the Seekers in a system, like do they have to fly back to their station every so often or some such?

I've seen a few threadnaughts about Seekers and Drifters and Jove, but those are all lore this and theory that, I couldn't find a definitive source of information and facts about them that hasn't been outdated by someone figuring out how to solo them in a Cerb.

People really are bad at PVE in this game, even though tbh it's mostly a joke. It's funny watching someone lose a capital ship or spending 5 bil on a battleship when the things can be killed by cruiser sized ships (and it doesn't matter how many spawn if none of them can catch you. People are making the same mistakes they make with all new PVe content, trying to use brute force (and brute tank) on things that require finesse lol.

Guy in the video uses a Cerb, I use a Tengu which is actually not quite as good, but that alt can't use a Cerb yet.

The doomsday hits out to 400km now if I recall. That tactic is no longer valid. I've also seen the drifters escalate to four maximum, and they dropped that on a POS. Along with several wings of circadian seekers. It was quite entertaining the first time it happened.

I killed one while avoiding another with a Tengu last night near Hek. Still works. I'm hording the drops for after summer when they should be worth something.

Odd this article says they should hit out to 400 with the death cannon Blap

Same guy with the Cerb has a video of soloing with a Rattlesnake I think (not idea how much he spent on it though, he did not share his fit. I did replicate his Cerb fit with a Tengu, but with less missile range.

Edit: here it is.. Still, Tengu or Cerb is best.

Yeah, he convo'd me and told me his fit was 5b and he wasn't using implants to help.

There were a lot of haters out there telling him it was fake, so I kindly posted the fit I had done up a while ago but didn't want to use because it is cost prohibitive until you bag 200-300 drifters by yourself before you break even. Though he pulled his video as public so now you can't see it anymore. :(

So at less than 3b you can do this:

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Republic Fleet Berserker x2

But good luck getting your drones to connect on something that is going 3.5km/s. And as long as you are using links, you just overheat the hardeners when you are about to take the DD and presto. Though this fit can't tank any more than normal dps from a single drifter so my guess is he has to run when he gets aggro'd by more than one.

Another thing I have yet to test, is how they handle neutral logi... with neutral logi a snake would be able to solo as many drifters as it wanted to deal with.

Kay, just so we're all nice and clear on this, Antikythera (Drifter, Circadian loot) goes for 11.5 mil in Jita right now.
Drifters always drop 2 Antikythera. Circadian Seekers have a chance to drop 1 Anitkythera (about 40%)

It takes about 70 Thermal DPS to kill a Drifter.

For me, I lose 1.5 million per Drifter kill, and theoretically gain 23 million.

I don't kill Drifters for money, but ~21.5 million per kill sounds pretty nice to me.

I take it they also currently still do not pod you after dding your ship?

Reading the bolded back and forth i've somewhat came up with that there's something being told here.

I suspect a frigate being wasted on getting doomsdayed by a Drifter, and then the Drifter is killed by something,
capable of those 70 Thermal DPS before it can? activate the DD once again.
Can't actually test my idea since the launcher is acting up both for TQ and SiSi, and both needs patching,
so the "exe"-path is also a no go.

Reading the bolded back and forth i've somewhat came up with that there's something being told here.

I suspect a frigate being wasted on getting doomsdayed by a Drifter, and then the Drifter is killed by something,
capable of those 70 Thermal DPS before it can? activate the DD once again.

Ok, so under that logic. I can use a Marauder to kill the Circadians, dock and switch to a "sacrificial lamb", burn the overshield, die in a fire, reship, kill drifter in my marauder.

And quite a few other important things: the lore article says 400km, but I suspect it may be out to 500km.

And also, I think I've mentioned this, but if you warp out; are out of range, or otherwise leave the grid when a Drifter is about to doomsday you, whatever is the first ship you warp back in (or get in range with) they will instantly doomsday.

You can't stay on grid, back that doesn't particularly stop you from killing them without losing your ship.

This may sound like a lot of work but can you use 2 ships, a battleship and destroyer, for example. Burn the overshield down to just above collapse, then use a Mobile Depot to install some warp core stablizers, warp the BS out and have the destroyer crack the overshield. He gets DD, but the BS can then finish the Drifter off.

Would that work?

Yes, but flag the the warp core stabs.

Drifters only scramble you when they're firing their Doomsday.
You can warp freely in any other part of the engagement.

So how is Ferni doing kills with just a frig? Can the lux whatever be speed tanked?

Yes.

The Lux Kontos have near the same tracking as 280mm Artillery Cannons. That's only 0.062rad/s.
There are laughable extremes as a result of this.

What range do drifters orbit?

...

But if there are two drifters its going to be a pain to speed tank both. You need to orbit one while you keep your orbital plane flat on to the other.

Also, I don't get that Rattlesnake fit. I put it into PYFA, and got 632K EHP for the shields, even with overheat. That's less than the 750K you get form the doomsday. In addition, the shield regen is 977 EHP/s, which is less than the 1280 of a Drifter. So how does it work?

After poking around at some Seekers and having their big brother Drifters come in to ruin the party earlier this evening on TQ, I got to wondering, what exactly is the point to them in Hi-Sec and is there any reason to not just ignore them?

rabble.

That's an interesting (albeit expensive) Rattlesnake fit to make $20-million ISK on a fairly risky proposition...

I don't get the whole "dangerous" aspect, unless they start arbitrarily hunting down ships in high-sec

]Yeah, it would be better if they were more aggressive, but then all those solo carebears would be pretty up in arms that they can't survive. I would like to see them actually roam, occasionally leaving their given systems and hitting up random belts and stations, maybe catching afk haulers and battleships and such.

Ever since they came out with the Drifters I wanted to get one to land on a crowded Jita gate during rush hour and watch the chaos, but alas, it doesn't work like that, yet.

High sec .... learn how to play the game FFS.

Like you said, it will be interesting to see how CCP responds to the snake and frigate scenarios with the next pass on Drifters.

Why aren't you people just adapting that fit to a golem? Shouldn't that be the obvious thing to do and not put massive amounts of bling into it?

Why aren't you people just adapting that fit to a golem? Shouldn't that be the obvious thing to do and not put massive amounts of bling into it?

I also had a shield repper toon, and drifters ignored the repper toon completely.

A snake can tank both the dps and the DD, provided you:

Spend alot of ISK on the modules
Have an in-system booster
Just before you drop the overshield and get the DD, you hit overheat

If there are two drifters, your tank will break. Bring logi.

Huh. Well that's weird, the bastion doesn't even put golem's resists significantly above the rattle's.

Yes. There is no possible way to mitigate the incoming damage from the doomsday.

When the overshield is depleted, all active locks are lost, a 5 point scram with a range of 500km targets your ship, and the Drifter will doomsday you with full damage as long as you are targetable on grid.

In the case of warping before the Drifter can fire its doomsday, the next ship you return in will be doomsdayed.

One of my guys was actually playing around with the Drifters the other day and when he warped away from them, he actually saw the sneaky jerks pass him in warp, and they were on grid when he landed.

I thought I had mentioned on the Rattlesnake fit that I had a perfect booster providing links? *Sorry, I had passably casually mentioned links, but not that I had my perfect boost character in a vulture with a mindlink providing the extra to bridge the gap*

Yeah, on its own it can't make the ehp requirement, but with a perfect link boost it easily tops it, with extra hp and higher resists.

Kk, played around with it a bit further based on the suggestions and wow, apparently a 4th extender rig does a lot more than the 3rd extender in the mids so good call.

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Federation Navy Garde x2
Republic Fleet Berserker x2

Overheated (lasts for 2-3 minutes) with perfect links you get 1.15 million ehp, and 2400 omni dps tank. Also to keep in mind, you don't have to do a terrible amount of dmg to the overshield before it goes down, so the 70k shield at an average of 93% would be more than sufficient to hold the dps and take the DD. The only downside is the 3rd deadspace invul adds another billion to the cost. You can also buff it a touch more with the 3 or 4% shield implants for cheap.

Like you said, it will be interesting to see how CCP responds to the snake and frigate scenarios with the next pass on Drifters.

PS. Using a full Genolution implant set with both 6% shield implants you can get to 2600 dps tank and 1.25 million ehp... but again, not cost effective if only to say you beat a Drifter solo and to farm 15-20m in loot from each one.

I wondered about >1m EHP calculation you did here, and I wanted to try it out in real eve.. so, I dragged my booster toon over to Jita and undocked, and with my skills, which is missing one lvl on caldari BS, and 2 lvl on shield resist skills to be maxed, I got 533k EHP ingame, while EFT says 620k EHP. ( I also got SM-705 and SP-905 plugged in ).

When I overload with t1 links, I get 815k EHP ingame with Navy Scorp.

I can only assume that the calculation you came up with here is based on EFT tool, not ingame fittings window ?

I believe EFT calculates the numbers differently.

Also, I was using a perfect T2 link booster in the appropriate mindlink/ship for max bonus. I mean what else is there for my 3rd pilot to train after I capped out most of the industry stuff?

If I could just transfer the ship to Sisi to test this. The copy ships command didnt copy the brand new setup Scorpion Navy for some reason..