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lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.01 07:53:00 -
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In the last few days, since I killed the now slightly famous CNR in motsu, I have received numerous (around 10) conversations asking me how I do it. Obviously these people have noticed it generates alot of ISK, and want a slice of the pie. By all means, go ahead. But if you want to do it, work it out yourself FFS. I spent the best part of 6-8 months fine tuning this, and I will not give it out to everybody for nothing (just a billion or two). So far I have been kind to these people, but the most recent one was obviously a noob, and was asking for help from cruisers and scaring away half of motsu by doing it in local. Thus, I began to give him false information. 4 new cruisers due to concordokken later, he gave up. People, I have no problem with you doing this for yourself, infact I have even invited one budding pirate into my corporation, but for god sakes, do your own work. Telling you how I make so much ISK would be like telling you how to make ISK hauling in empire by revealing my trade routes, which is just stupid. From now on, anybody who convos me about this topic is just going to receive wrong information, or none at all depending on my mood. Thank you for your time. ---
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Noluck Ned
FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.01 07:56:00 -
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Sorry to hear you have become a victim of your own success.
Best of luck fending off the copycats.
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slothe
Caldari Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.01 08:07:00 -
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Edited by: slothe on 01/11/2006 08:16:34 i think its funny that you complain about people irritating you after clearly annoying numerous people using your tactics. isnt that karma?
would arguably be justice to those you trikt and kild if lots more people were to message you and convo you more.
personally i find your tactics, however effective, as dishonourable as you either ask for help or offer help to victims before turning on them.
hopefully your "success" will alert more people to this tactic.
please note u do not personally dislike you i respect your efforts in the game i just dont like your style.
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.01 09:27:00 -
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*Snip* - Removed - ReverendM
I completely agree with Slothe about the OP.
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Ras Blumin
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.11.01 09:47:00 -
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Edited by: Ras Blumin on 01/11/2006 22:38:44 removed
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Vorce
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Posted - 2006.11.01 10:58:00 -
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Edited by: Vorce on 01/11/2006 11:02:15
Nvm
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lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.01 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: slothe i think its funny that you complain about people irritating you after clearly annoying numerous people using your tactics. isnt that karma?
They arent irritating, especially when they complain about concordokken. Most entertaining actually. It's just being **** lazy asking me how to do it. I dont care that they convo me most of the time, as generally my friends arent the most talkative bunch (Cept for wierchas ), just that they go 'Omfg how do u do it i want ur isks lol'. I mean, if you reportedly made 10's of billion ISK a month, and someone convod you asking how you did it, would you tell them? ---
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Antaris Xenal
Gallente adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.01 22:05:00 -
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Oh we all lub you lofty :) I already know the "secret" anyways, its not hard =/
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lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.01 22:07:00 -
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Edited by: lofty29 on 01/11/2006 22:07:15 ^^Stalker^^ Antaris, that is. DS is too quick on the *****
Btw, why'd the post count in this thread drop from 11 - 7?   ---
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.11.01 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Antaris Xenal Oh we all lub you lofty :) I already know the "secret" anyways, its not hard =/
Of course its not.
Anyone dumb enough to have to ask him about it doesn't deserve to know it.
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ReverendM
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2006.11.01 22:08:00 -
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Thread Cleaned. Marines Posted. Staying on topic is good. Being constructive is good. Making mean comments, trolling, or attacking people is bad. In fact, they're against the forum rules.

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Antaris Xenal
Gallente adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.01 22:11:00 -
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Bah im not a stalker, just trying to let you know that everyone wants you lofty.... They want you in ways not allowed on to say on these forum's without getting banned :D Or they just want you dead for ganking them lmao
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Deadeye Dave
Amarr DIE WITH HONOUR
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Posted - 2006.11.01 22:45:00 -
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I personally would never want to use lofty29s tactics but to be honest if he is happy making his living in this way I don't really care about it because its been considered not an exploit and he is teaching people to be more careful. I also find it very funny that people have tried to contact lofty29 and ask him how he does it, it's just like the dozens of people who tried to pull IPO scams after Dentara Rast and the EIB scam.
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.01 22:56:00 -
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Edited by: Traxio Nacho on 01/11/2006 22:57:28 *****
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Hellspawn01
Amarr The Phantom Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.01 23:28:00 -
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Old amarrian saying:
Quote: Give him a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and you loose a customer.
This tactic is still lame.
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Pestillence
Chav-Scum
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Posted - 2006.11.01 23:36:00 -
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To the people you decide to help. Dont forget to tell them to
1) Post in threads about themselves at so much they make up at least 30% of the replies 2) Spell simple words like "mimic" incorrectly.
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Roule
The Kennels
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Posted - 2006.11.01 23:38:00 -
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Then why come on here and give everyone more exposure to yourself and what you do?
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gankstah
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Posted - 2006.11.01 23:47:00 -
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Edited by: gankstah on 01/11/2006 23:49:52 have you alt make a corp and make a war between your alt and your main corps.
send both alt and main into high sec mission system
sit main at pre arranged safe spot, setup to kill the prey you want (ravens in lofty29s case) make sure u have a 3rd alt with a ship scanner and scan the mission guys as they float about the stations.
have the alt thet you are at war with start asking for help with a L2 or L3 mission in local, specificaly taylor the requests to the people you have scaned and know have faction ships or fittings.
when u get a bite offer them a gang invite, as soon as they accept warp them to 'the mission' aka your main in the safe spot who is waiting to gank them.
rinse and repeat.
oh BTW, best ship to use for this is a dominix using 2 x 7.5km scramblers and 3 racial jammers of the exact kind to jam the ships your targeting.
take their cap, as soon as tank fails offer them a ransom or depending on their fittings pop them
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DaMiGe
Amarr Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.11.01 23:49:00 -
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Sounds like the good old highsec gangtrick we did back in "section 66" Nice to see some people are still using it  ---> My vids <--- latest movie = Lock 'N Load 5 |

DaMiGe
Amarr Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.11.01 23:53:00 -
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Originally by: gankstah Edited by: gankstah on 01/11/2006 23:49:52 have you alt make a corp and make a war between your alt and your main corps.
send both alt and main into high sec mission system
sit main at pre arranged safe spot, setup to kill the prey you want (ravens in lofty29s case) make sure u have a 3rd alt with a ship scanner and scan the mission guys as they float about the stations.
have the alt thet you are at war with start asking for help with a L2 or L3 mission in local, specificaly taylor the requests to the people you have scaned and know have faction ships or fittings.
when u get a bite offer them a gang invite, as soon as they accept warp them to 'the mission' aka your main in the safe spot who is waiting to gank them.
rinse and repeat.
oh BTW, best ship to use for this is a dominix using 2 x 7.5km scramblers and 3 racial jammers of the exact kind to jam the ships your targeting.
take their cap, as soon as tank fails offer them a ransom or depending on their fittings pop them
yeaap, thats the stuff  ---> My vids <--- latest movie = Lock 'N Load 5 |

Celestal
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Posted - 2006.11.02 06:05:00 -
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learning to spell is the first step to not looking like a beauty school drop out . mimick LOL
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Captain Thunk
Explode. Now. Please.
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Posted - 2006.11.02 10:51:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Thunk on 02/11/2006 10:53:45 Lofty's actually only doing the basics, if you really want to take this to the next level, we're talking alts with remote transfers.
It's pretty easy to setup even the T1 cruiser versions to enable a constant flow of either shields, energy or armor* to the ship involved in the fight. Keep these alts out of gang and you have the beauty of CONCORD protection. All you need is your primary ship to have speed on the enemy and it's not going to be able to ever escape. The alts can provide a ridiculously robust defence and if the target dares try to shoot one of them, CONCORD will turn up and set the record straight.
Remote transfer doesn't trigger aggro as it's not a negative effect, therefore it's a legal tactic in CCPs eyes.
I wouldn't do this myself as I'd rather play some other game than be that lame. But I'm sure lofty can confirm in the next day or two that it works and works well. Kill a CNR in a T1 cruier? AF? wonder if it's enough to do it in an Ibis?
Personally I'd rather CCP remove this gang/war nonsense as it's a relic of bygone age and no longer needed. It predates when war targets are shown on the overview and has no real relevence today other than to serve to amuse those of us who have lost interest in the game.
CAPTAIN THUNK
Edit: *Hell, get 3 alts and do all 3 - gotta do this properly
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Laythun
Undercover Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.02 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: gankstah Edited by: gankstah on 01/11/2006 23:49:52 have you alt make a corp and make a war between your alt and your main corps.
send both alt and main into high sec mission system
sit main at pre arranged safe spot, setup to kill the prey you want (ravens in lofty29s case) make sure u have a 3rd alt with a ship scanner and scan the mission guys as they float about the stations.
have the alt thet you are at war with start asking for help with a L2 or L3 mission in local, specificaly taylor the requests to the people you have scaned and know have faction ships or fittings.
when u get a bite offer them a gang invite, as soon as they accept warp them to 'the mission' aka your main in the safe spot who is waiting to gank them.
rinse and repeat.
oh BTW, best ship to use for this is a dominix using 2 x 7.5km scramblers and 3 racial jammers of the exact kind to jam the ships your targeting.
take their cap, as soon as tank fails offer them a ransom or depending on their fittings pop them
thats not even the best one.
<3 Lofty
Oh for all u whiners and 'omg lofty your lame!"!"dieURtacticsSuck' just hush up, im sick of seeing you in every thread of his whining about him, half of you have done worse and the other half well...the less said about u the better.
Undercover Brothers It's great being Amarr, aint it?Ö |

Belhorn Battlebeard
Turbulent
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Posted - 2006.11.02 12:07:00 -
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Hey Gankstah, at least use your main if you're gonna be your normal self and rumble someone's methods (formerly K3NDY, now SALTIRE iirc )
It's a nice technique imo and I suspect that the only characters moaning about it (or majority) have been victims at some point?
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Saltire
System-Lords E N I G M A
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Posted - 2006.11.02 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Belhorn Battlebeard Hey Gankstah, at least use your main if you're gonna be your normal self and rumble someone's methods (formerly K3NDY, now SALTIRE iirc )
It's a nice technique imo and I suspect that the only characters moaning about it (or majority) have been victims at some point?
yes formerly k3ndy but as u know i sold the account , gankstah and another alt were both on it when i sold it...
good to see the new owner is still using my old alts lol
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HolographicEntrypoint
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.02 14:13:00 -
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Way to go lofty :) ---
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Kyguard
Fire Mandrill Astrophobics
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Posted - 2006.11.02 14:31:00 -
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"Look at me, I'm an attention *****!"
It's funny how you pretend to be the first one to have ever started using this lame tactic.
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Fogy
Caldari Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.11.02 15:06:00 -
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Sounds like an exploit to me..
Cheers! Fogy
"From my rotting boddy flowers shall grow and I am in them, and that is eternity"
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spRAYed
Momentum.
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Posted - 2006.11.02 15:44:00 -
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OMG CNR RAVEN KILL A YEAR AGO POST PSOT!!!!   ------------------------------
pArlT? Ur watching too many movies dude... ^Sig by Liu Mang |

lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.02 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Kyguard "Look at me, I'm an attention *****!"
It's funny how you pretend to be the first one to have ever started using this lame tactic.
Not reading the OP ftw I never said I was the first, but I'm basically the only person to have made it widely used / known. Infact I got the idea from Voogru, which he uses to kill macrominers. ---
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